Football Daily - Premier League Eve with Howe, Guehi, Iraola & more

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

Kelly Somers and Glenn Murray preview the upcoming Premier League season with just one more sleep to go!Eddie Howe speaks about the difficult summer Newcastle United have had as the Isak saga rumbles on, with Crystal Palace captain Marc Guehi also offering an insight into who he is as a person. James Ward-Prowse speaks about Graham Potter's first full pre-season in charge at West Ham, before we hear from Andoni Iraola and Tyrone Mings. And finally, Sunderland's Wilson Isidor says "we will stay up, of course!"Timecodes: 03:18 Eddie Howe 14:40 Marc Guehi 22:20 James Ward-Prowse 30:10 Andoni Iraola 36:14 Tyrone Mings 45:50 Wilson IsidorFootball commentaries this week: Saturday 16th August PREMIER LEAGUE: Sunderland v West Ham 1500 KO, live on 5 Live. PREMIER LEAGUE: Spurs v Burnley 1500 KO, live on 5 Sports Extra. PREMIER LEAGUE: Wolves v Man City 1730 KO, live on 5 Live.Sunday 17th August PREMIER LEAGUE: Chelsea v Crystal Palace 1400 KO, live on 5 Live. PREMIER LEAGUE: Nottingham Forest v Brentford 1400 KO, live on 5 Sports Extra. PREMIER LEAGUE: Manchester United v Arsenal 1630 KO, live on 5 Live.

BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts. This is the Football Daily podcast with Kelly Summers. Hello, happy Premier League, Eve. I'm Kelly Summers, and welcome to a very special show looking ahead to the new season, which starts tomorrow. And the good news is 5 Live and Sports Extra will bring you more Premier League commentary than ever before this season, with over 200 games.

We're going to bring you the choice of two commentaries at 3pm every Saturday, plus the first. 5.30 game. Then each Sunday will bring you all the scheduled 2pm games as well as the big 430pm kickoff, which this week is a small matter of Manchester United against Arsenal. And each week I'll also be having some in-depth chats with a mix of players and managers. That is part of the new football interview show. You'll be able to hear them every Saturday on the football daily feed on BBC Sounds. And you can also watch it after Saturday's match of the day on BBC 1. And my guest for this first episode is none other than Wayne Rooney. In this series, I'm more

interested in the person behind the player. And I don't think I've ever heard him speak like he did before. We were sitting in his home and he gave me a really unique insight into his family life. He talked about how he relaxes away from football and also told me a fair few things that I'd never heard before. So do listen out for that one. But back to this show, you're going to hear from plenty of the big name players and coaches in the Premier League. We've got Newcastle boss Eddie Howe and one of the most talked about players of the summer, Crystal Palace's Mark Gahey, and that is just to name a few. We're also going to take a look at the clubs

that have come up and hear it from Sunderland striker, Wilson Isidore. Pleased to say alongside me to chat about it all is the former Premier League striker, Glenn Murray. Glenn, how's your summer been? It's been good, Kelly, but I'm ready. I'm ready for the Premier League to come back. Super excited for the start tomorrow.

And it feels like it's been a busy summer, this transfer window. Lots still kind of bubbling under. So it feels like it's quite an intriguing, almost time to start the season because there's a lot of transfers that probably haven't yet happened that are going to happen. Yeah, I expect a lot more activity

and it's driving me crazy a little bit trying to pick my FPL team because I know there's so much change ahead. Yes, I know that feeling. You can listen to Ali Bruce Bull, Chris Sutton and the gang, by the way. They've got their FPL pod back on BBC Sound, so do listen to that.

But let's not talk about fantasy, Glenn, because we're going to get stressed because there's so many decisions to make in that. Let's kick off this kind of Premier League preview. We're just looking ahead to some of the clubs and hearing from some of the players and managers, as we said. We're going to kick things off with Newcastle. We're going to hear from their manager, Eddie Howe in just a moment.

But Glenn, things haven't exactly been smooth in the build-ups this new season, have they? Of course, they've missed out on some targets, but mainly because of all of the transfer speculation around their star striker, Alexander Isak. What have you made of it all? Yeah, it's been a little bit messy to say the least. I think there's been a breakdown in communication somewhere up in Newcastle, obviously when you've got the best number nine in Europe, if not arguably the best in the world. world, the last thing you want him to do is sit for most of the summer and then tell you who wants to leave. So yeah, I feel as though maybe, I think Eddie Howe maybe alludes to it

in his interview. If they had a sporting director, that might not be in the case. I was going to ask you another question, but you've teed us up nicely. I'll ask you plenty more in just a moment. Let's now hear from Eddie Howe on a slightly stressful summer so far. I was going to say, you know, the stock answers. It's been a stressful summer. I think, yeah, not ideal going in to the summer in the way that we did with no CEO, no sporting director, that's become sort of unusual, really dynamic for us. But I think we've just tried to make the best of the situation. Of course, we've been linked with a lot of players, as we always are.

We've landed some, we've missed some others, but we're very pleased with the players that we have signed, and I think the squad's in a better place now for a couple of new additions that we've got late on, because I think that just breeds confidence within the squad that we're going be strong enough and resilient enough for a long campaign and a challenging one ahead. You use that word stressful, I mean there's been a lot of noise, how difficult has that been, how challenging has that been? Well the noise itself doesn't really exist unless you open yourself up to it so I'm not on social media so I don't see a lot of the, a lot of the comments. I mean you're sort of aware of the tone around our summer which I think's been not reflected

internally. So internally it's been about our training and making sure the players are ready for the season. We haven't felt a lot of the feelings that have been published. But of course there's been a negativity around us in this window which we've had to try and sort of repel and not absorb in ourselves. Otherwise it can affect you and bring the mood of the squad down. And there's no need for that. It's been yes it's been slightly unusual summer for us. Yes, there's been stressful moments within it but we've still got a lot of the same players that we've had and we've been very successful for a long period of time so I think we have to look at it very positively yeah I take it back to Wembley after the final you spoke very powerfully about your late

mum how emotional moment was that for you and how much of an inspiration has she been yeah she's still with me every day I mean it's it's a difficult one because you're sort of not consciously thinking about her on a sort of minute by minute basis or even a day by day basis to a degree but you know that her spirit and her courage and her determination is with me in so many different ways in the way that I act and the way that I behave. So I know she's willing me on from somewhere and very proud.

And I just hope to do her justice really in the way that I work. Yeah, you feel her driving you on. Yeah, definitely. And not just her other family members. I feel you have a duty to protect sort of her legacy by how I conduct myself from what I do. So I'm very, very driven for more success. I'm very determined to do my

best, which is all I can do. And hopefully that would be good enough. Yeah, you've made a few signs. Can I ask you about Malik? What do you think he will bring to Newcastle? Yeah, really excited by Malik. I think he's a great age. Yeah, full of potential and I think the best of his career is yet to come. It's an imposing character, six foot four. It's quick and athletic, good on the ball. You know, those types of players are really rare to find. So obviously a good character as well so very excited by what he can bring to the club um yes i really like all of our signings anthony olenga will bring his unique mix of pace and speed and creativity and ramsdale is a real character we've known him for a long time but a very very good goalkeeper

you still hoping for more yeah still hoping for more i think we need more um got some big gaps within the squad still obviously center forwards an issue we've been looking to replace callum for some time. He was such a good servant for us. And of course, we've had issues with Alex's situation this year. So that's definitely a cause for concern that position. I was asking about Alex's situation. How difficult has that been for you? Yeah, it's not been ideal.

I don't think it's been healthy for us. I'm not going to deny that that's been a big, big challenge. For me, Alex is one of the, if not the best strikers in the world. So miss him from your squad is a huge gap. The situation is ongoing. I've got no updates for you on that situation. So, yeah, I said he won't be available against Ashton Villa. I've said that before.

That will certainly be the case. But we'll have to find a way without him. With that, might have's morale been around the group? Yeah, I think morale was certainly affected early on during preseason. There's no denying that. And there was nothing I could do really to affect that. It was always going to be there. As I say, when you've got a player that good, not part of your group,

it's difficult for the players to sort of fully understand it and know what's going on and then sort of know how to react to it. But I think as time's gone on, there's been a sort of an acceptance that this is the squad and we've got to make the best of the situation. That's always been my train of thought, whatever situation you're in, you've got to find a way and you can only control what you can control. we've moved forward and I've got to say

the atmosphere of the group has been very good in the last couple of weeks. So yeah I think by Aston Villa we'll be ready. Yeah, BBC Sports Newcastle reporter Kieran Kelly with the questions there. Glennie's been very honest there, hasn't he? And I think you can hear in his voice. It really has been a summer that's

probably taken its toll. He said at the beginning that maybe it was affecting the group. He said now there's almost been a bit of an acceptance but surely you've been in dressing rooms, I'm sure where there's been transfer speculation. Does it affect the players? Will it have affected the group? It will have affected some more than others.

I think every football understands that you're an individual entity and you need to look after yourself first and foremost. And Alexander Isaac clearly thinks that his time at the football club's up and he wants to vie for more trophies than just the AFL and not to be part of things like the Champions League and the Premier League, but want to try and win those things. So it's extremely derailing. also on the other hand, if he walked in

tomorrow afternoon and he kicked off the Premier League season, I'm sure there'll be 16, 17, 17, 18 plays absolutely delighted to see him back in the black and white. Yeah, Eddie Howes said that he won't feature against Aston Villa this weekend. There's no chance of that. With the current situation, do you understand Isak wanting to leave?

Yes, I do. I feel as though he's gone to the football club. He's delivered what he promised. And I feel also the other way around, I feel as our Newcastle have delivered on their promise of getting a trophy in. So I think there's no doubt about it that Alexander Ezek will be leaving a football club

that he has made better in his time there. But there does come a point in a player's career where you want to, like I alluded to earlier, is trying to vie for those biggest trophies that a player can win. And that is his level ultimately. He's improved so much that he is the one that kind of the big clubs want.

I know he's kind of narrowed himself down to one in particular but yeah just going back to what Eddie Howe said and the lack of a CEO and a sporting director we've seen a trail of kind of missed opportunities as far as number nine is concerned for Newcastle

but I really feel as though trying to get those guys in the door when you've got the best striker in Europe at the helm it's really difficult because ultimately you know you're going to be playing second fiddle to Alexander is that whereas if they'd had the opportunity to sit down with him at the start of the summer and he said, listen, I want to leave, then they could have got the wheels in motion and I'm sure they could have got maybe one, if not two of those strikers that have

turned them down in the transfer window so far? Yeah, do you think it's taking them a little bit by surprise? It sounds like they, well, they let Callum Wilson go, didn't they? And I mean, I know Callum Wilson's at a different stage of his career, he's been at Newcastle a longer period of time, but you do wonder if maybe they wouldn't have let him go because now they're actually looking for two strikers, it feels like, doesn't it? Yeah, listen, Callum's been a brilliant servant to the football club. And yeah, he's got his injury troubles.

But when he is guaranteed goals and he knows what Eddie Howe wants. He knows the system, his suit the system. He's been in that changing him a long time. So he knows how it all works up there. I did feel when Callum was released a little bit worried for Newcastle. I feel as though they were last year. That was my biggest worry for Newcastle last year was if Isaac and Callum, got injured.

Luckily for them, Isaac was fit and firing most of the season. But this season, without kind of a ready place replacement, as in Callum Wilson, then it's difficult for Alexander Isaac because there's so much pressure on him. And also with his saga ongoing,

if he does stay past that, I think it's the second of September this year, then he needs to be on board from the start, which is really difficult when your head's been turned. Is there a way back for him? because Newcastle, the report suggests... There's always a way back, Kelly. And I guess all it takes is him starting,

even with Newcastle fans aren't happy, score a goal. And it's going to be quickly forgotten, would you say? As soon as that ball hits the back of the net at the Gallagher end, all will be forgiven until the next transfer window. But is that realistic? How does this play out, do you think?

Yeah, this is a really difficult one to call. I think the biggest issue with this is that there's only one club in for him at the moment. I think he's made it play. and clear that he doesn't want to go to Saudi that doesn't kind of reach his ambitions that he wants to do and he said he wants to go to Liverpool

and again I feel as though if he'd been honest and clear with what he wanted to do this summer then Liverpool might have not gone and got Ekateke as well so it would have worked for both clubs and maybe made this whole process

a little bit smoother Yeah it's been a bit like a soap opera hasn't it who's getting the player who's going to beat them to the signature Manchester United obviously kind of getting Chesco as well As for Newcastle overall, it's going to be a really big few weeks, isn't it, for Eddie Howell, for that whole squad

in terms of they've not had the best preseason as well. How do you assess the squad? Are you worried for them as it stands? No, I'm not worried. I think this saga needs to come to an end sooner rather than later, whether he's staying or whether he's leaving, so they can understand where they sit in the transfer market. But I think when you look at their other business,

they've done Ramsdale in Alangar, in Malikin, I think it is generally good. solid business, which I've become accustomed to under Eddie Howe at the football club. One bit of good news for Eddie Howe and Newcastle, Glenn, is that it looks like they've reached an agreement to sign Jacob Ramsey from Aston Villa. Is that a good bit of business for them? Yeah, I think that's a very good bit of business, Jacob Ramsey. It played a lot of games for Aston Villa last year. I feel as though Eddie Howe will have the time to make him a better player. I would say a very Eddie Howe signing that, someone that will fit into that the ranks at

Newcastle very well, but the Jordy's will be mourning. He's not a number nine. Yeah, if it's busy up in the north-east and it could be busy in South London as interest continues in Crystal Palace Captain Mark Gehuy. Now, I visited him last week and actually it wasn't

to talk about the speculation, but for a future interview that will be part of the football interview. And we actually talked about Mark the person, and again, I found it a really fascinating chat. Football is a big part of my life. It has been for a long time now. So yeah, it means a lot.

It means, you know, the fact that I'm able to do something that I love every single day. Able to provide for my family, able to meet friends. So, yeah, it means a lot. What's your earliest memory of playing football? Because we know you came over to England when you were won. And obviously you can't remember back then, I'm sure. But what are the first memories with the ball at your feet? Playing at the park with friends

used to do that as often as possible and then through that my Sunday league team, Craig Wanderers so the bright orange or yellow kit that we had stayed in my memory so definitely those memories which were which were great and I still hold them dear to my heart.

You have had an exceptional career today and you're only 25 years old when you look back is there a turning point or a point that you think you spoke there about luck and kind of different things happen at different points. Has there been a turning point for you, you think,

that's really shaped your career? I'd say my time alone at Swansea was a big turning point, I guess. You know, coming from Chelsea's Academy, going to such an amazing club that made me feel welcome from the beginning and not playing right away or not doing well straight away and having to sit on the bench and having not to travel to games and experience the difficult side of football. and definitely, I wouldn't say, woke me up, but put me in my place, I guess.

And that definitely helped me just understand the world of football a bit better. Was there any specific moment at Swansea or a conversation that you can think of that kind of made you go, okay, this is what I need to do or anything like that? I remember having a few conversations with Wayne Routledge and Nathan Dyer at the time. You know, two people that I look up to, two people who hurt me a lot. and they were just adamant that I should carry on being myself and just excelling in that area because I think at the end of the day,

if you're not yourself, then what's the point? Do you know, having people like that help me along the way, definitely guided my path, I should say. Okay, tell me one thing about yourself that would surprise me or anyone watching this, maybe that we don't know about you. Do you know what? Go on.

I would, I'm not only good, but I would love you. I would love to be like a WW wrestler or something like that, you know. That was not what I was expecting. Why? What is it about that that appears to you? Oh, I don't know, just growing up, it can be dangerous. It can be obviously it is scripted, but it's like really... It's going to say the performance side of it. Yeah, the performance side of it.

Being able to just waffle, I feel like I'm a good waffler on the mic and making people believe that you're the bad guy or the good guy. Yeah. And finally, trying to bring it back to something serious now. If you could achieve one more thing in your career, what would you want it to be? Play till I'm 40. Wow. Just longevity then?

Yeah. I think that's the real, obviously winning trophies is great, playing in different competitions, but I think that's the real testament to how professional someone is. Obviously, there's going to be injuries, and that's always unfortunate. But, you know, Godwin and I can play for that long. In a sport that is, you know, so, like, fleeting. Yeah, I tried to ask some slightly different questions in these interviews. We're going to ask similar questions towards all.

all of the people that we're speaking to, just to try and get a little insight into their personality. Firstly, do you expect him? Because I didn't expect him to say, W.W.E. wrestler, Glenn? No, I think I was taken back as you were, Kelly. And also, after that, he said, I'm a really good wuffler, and I didn't have him down as a good waffler either.

Do you know what? I've interviewed him a lot over the time with England, and he's incredibly well-spoken, and he does open up, and he thinks a lot, like he doesn't just say things for the sake of it. He's incredibly mature. He's 25. I think there's a reason. Go on. That's the exact opposite to being a good waffler, isn't it? It's to be consens.

And that's how I have him down. I consider myself a professional waffler, though. So maybe, I don't know, maybe we're thinking about waffling. I just think you're an impressive talker if you can waffle. But yeah, maybe I'm overselling it a bit. Mark Gahey, there's a lot of interest in him this summer. And I actually joked with him before the interview last summer. This time last summer I went on Crystal Palace's Media Day.

And there was all the interests from Newcast when I kind of laughed and said, oh, every summer, I'm coming here. and there's more interest in you. You've heard just how professional he is there and how good a talker he is. You've watched him at close quarters, Pallas being one of your former clubs. Do you understand why there is such a clamour for him

and why there's such respect for him as a player? Without doubt, I think he's absolutely exceptional. Everything he does, whether that's in possession, out of possession. On top of that, he's a real leader. And you can tell that, by the way he talks, his calmness. I think he takes that onto the pitch. everything about him is extremely impressive

and I'm sure there's a lot of clubs out there would like his signature and they can get it for relatively cheap at the moment cheaper than what it would be if he had three or four years left he's only got a year left in his contract but the context behind that is that it's Crystal Palace's first European adventure and I'm sure he wants to be part of that

you can see that he's a real integral part of the team more than that though I feel as though this Crystal Palace unit are really good friends off the field and you can feel like when they're winning trophies and things and it must be such

a difficult situation that marks in is to possibly have the option to go on and win major trophies with big clubs or see something through that he started with his teammates yeah Steve Parrish has come out

and said they can't really afford for him to go without a fee because they're crystal Palace and that's what they have to do as a club. His contract is up next summer. It sounds like either from what you've said there, it feels like either is good for him because it's an exciting season for

Palace or he could go on to kind of a team like Liverpool. How do you expect it to play out? Will he leave? Well, as a former palace play, I don't want him to leave. I was going to say, don't upset the Palace fans. But I think he will, yeah.

Like Steve Parrish has been backed into a corner. And like he says, he can't let him leave for free. Whether Mark would be willing to pen another year to ease that pressure and sort of an agreement that he will leave next summer, regardless. I'm not sure if you'd be willing to do that as a person, as a player. But that's something that as a chairman of the football club, I'll be trying to get him to do.

But, yeah, they can't let him leave for free. And obviously, he is that good a player that he will want to challenge for major trophies. Okay, well let's move on to West Ham after a disappointing campaign last year and it is the first proper preseason that Graham Potter has had Glenn, you know him very well I'm saying that about everyone

it's almost a bit of a theme here isn't there and I get the feeling he's a manager that probably enjoys his time on the training pitch he does and I think he'll be really happy to get a preseason under his belt and make this squad his own obviously went in a difficult point last season probably didn't go as well

as what he would have liked but definitely time on the grass with the players and learning a new culture, I think, trying to implement a different wave of kind of around the training ground, making it more of a learning environment. Yeah, one player that Potter brought back to the club was James Ward Prowse who had been out on loan. He's had a very interesting couple of years.

I think collectively as a group, we all know that last season wasn't anywhere near the standard that we expected from ourselves And following the club's recent history, you know, we fell way short of that. So I think the summer came at a good time for everybody to go away and reflect and think about how they behaved during last season and whether they did enough. And I think you can definitely feel a sense of optimism and hope coming back to preseason. And I think the manager has done a really good job this preseason of sort of reconnecting us

as a not only a team, but as a family. I think that got lost a little bit last year. There's a lot of, you know, a lot of change, a lot of things going on. but I feel as though we've got a really good block of work under our belts this pre-season and I feel as though we're in a really positive place to kick on. You mentioned the manager there, Graham Potter. It's got a clearly defined playing style which from the outside looking in would suit your style of play.

Can you speak a bit about how you fit into his plans and what it's like to play for a Graham Potter side? Yeah, it's very enjoyable. I think it's the first time in a few years. where I've had that kind of coaching and sort of those painting pitches in your head and you feel as though you're learning all the time. And I think as a player, that's really important. When you go out on the pitch, you want to feel as though you've got absolute clarity

in your role and your demands, because if that's not met, you know, you can be told so. So everybody's enjoying it. Like I said, there's a sense of optimism and hope around the building. And I feel as though we're on an upward trajectory, which has been credit to the manager for the way he's handled us. this pre-season so far. Can you give us an idea of how important you believe this pre-season will be for West Ham, given it is Graham Potter's first full season in charge?

Yeah, I'm sure the manager would have been itching to have us sort of as a fresh start and to get a really good block of work into us. And obviously, we know the physical demands of a pre-season, but like I said, I think one of his focuses was to reconnect us as a team and as a family. And you can definitely feel that amongst everybody. We've had two really good preseason trips away

and everybody's come back and energized when you think of preseason you think of like a tiring part of the season it's a demanding one but I feel as though everybody's energized and looking forward to the challenges that's to come Can I take you back to last season midway through obviously you're on loan

and I think of the forest and then returned I guess that must be quite a difficult dynamic mindset to change going from one club immediately to the other and actually then playing as well Can you reflect on that for us and how hard that was for you? Yeah, it was a really strange year

I think because up until then I'd had so much stability in my career in my life. I'd been at Southampton for a number of years so I always knew what the situation was going to be and had a really positive year at West Ham and then to be sent out on loan

was a bit of a shock and I had to kind of adapt to that and overall it was a slightly negative year but I feel as though in the long run I'll look back on it with fond memories and a fond learning experience for myself and my family and I feel as I'm a better player and a better person now than I was before that.

So I try and look at the positives in every scenario. I think it sort of reignited when I came back to West Ham that firing me to prove people wrong and to be out on the pitch as much as I can because that's something that I'd be so used to. So, yeah, although it was a negative experience, I'd try to look at the positives that I could take from it and make sure that I wasn't in that position again.

He does sound re-energised after, by his own admission, a difficult year, Glenn. I get the feeling that he's probably a bit of a sponge when Graham Potter's on the coaching pitch. He must really relish playing under him. Yeah, that's something that doesn't surprise me. Even though at 30 years old, people they expect that he knows everything and seeing everything on the football field, that he admits that he's being coached and he's still learning. And that is ultimately what Graham Potter does very, very well. he makes plays better around him

I really like to hear about his so-called negative experience at Nottingham Forest because I think it's difficult when you spend a long time at football club like did at Southampton went to West Ham doesn't quite work

there's a lot of change and it's really difficult to kind of settle somewhere that isn't like you're used to ultimately change is it can be difficult and it reminds me of the time that I signed for Bournemouth and it was a terrible time in my career

but I also looked back at that really fondly and I probably learned the most from that year out of most of the years that went really well so yeah I like to hear that he's grown from that experience at Nottingham Forest and you'll submit me at Bournemouth Glen yeah that was probably the highlight in our famous Cal

do you feel like him and West Ham can have a good season obviously it felt like those first few months when Potter was there it was a case of Potter and West Ham getting to know each other. They've got to know each other now and they've got to prove it, haven't they? Yeah, they have.

I think he needs a good start, Graham Potter. I feel as though since he's been the football club, he's probably not happy personally with how the team's been playing. But like I say, his style is very different to what Westtown we're used to. So it takes time to adapt to get your philosophy over to the players.

But like we heard, Ward Proust say that he feels as though it's been a really positive pre-season and that they're energized that doesn't surprise me, the Grand Potter's pre-seasons are I wouldn't say easier but not quite as demanding

because he feels as though you'll end the season stronger the less you're doing pre-season Okay that's interesting and that's what you found is that what he kind of said when you were at Brighton with him so his

belief and the way does his preseason is that obviously there's the method where you go in and you get as quick as fit as you possibly can but also with that your fatigue spikes as well so your fatigue is running just under your fitness level and by the time christmas comes often your fatigue's taken over your fitness level and your fitness levels dropping away towards the end of the season whereas he feels if you go into the premier league season relatively easily not not super easy Obviously, they work hard. But when you go into the season,

if you're still gaining fitness, then there should never be a point during the season where your fatigue crosses your fitness. Glenn Murray alongside me for this very special Premier League preview show with the starts of the season, very, very fast approaching. Still to come, we're going to hear from Tyro Ming's on his recent contract extension, plus a chat about how those promoted teams can stay up.

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Sounds. It's the Football Daily podcast with Kelly Summers. Plenty more interviews coming your way, but next up, we're going to be talking Bournemouth. Now, Andoni Iriola is entering his third season as manager of the club, following up on a really impressive ninth place finish. I caught up with the Spanish manager about some of the top managers he grew up playing youth football with.

It's incredible, no, because when we were 7, 8, 9, I played with Mikhail Arteta, I played with Xavier Alon, So we are more or less the same age, age. Now, even Alizaduris, players that we were playing sometimes against because I was in a school, they were in other schools when we were playing there in the beach. And then after we played together in a small club also in Antigoco, and now it's amazing that we see each other in the football pitchers,

I don't know, almost 40 years later, yes. Are there any managers in particular that have had a big impact on your career? Yes, in my case, there is especially Ernesto Ball. Berde, a very clear one, because he was the one when I moved there to Athletic Club with 16 in the under 18s. He was the manager. He was also my manager when I was in the second team of Athletic Club. He was the first one who gave me the chance, no, to do my debut and even after he was

my manager when I left the club, I don't know, 12, 13, 14 years later, he came back after managing other clubs. and he has been really influential in my career and today still is our manager Athletic Club is my team and for me it has been probably the key figure if we talk about like a manager that has influenced your career yes you've mentioned Valverde but if I could push you for three who else three well it's difficult I've had very good managers no a lot of people ask me about Marcelo Bielsa Bielsa is I feel very lucky

to have had him for two seasons. He's someone that watches the game in a different way, and I think it's very useful when you are going to transition to the managerial career. And then I always, I've never had him, but I've always liked when we face them Carlo Ancelotti. Because Ancelotti, for me, for someone who has been so brilliant,

has won so many things in... such big clubs is very normal when you speak with him, when you face him, how everyone talks very well about him, the players, and it's someone that I always had a good feeling with him, yes. Well, you've managed in a number of different countries during your playing and managerial career, but which one would you say has perhaps had the biggest impact on you as a manager? I would say probably my year and a half I spent in America. Really?

Probably not the biggest league, not the best moments of my career, because I was probably already my decline as a player. But it was the moments where I realized I was going to retire and I started thinking the game in a different way. I had also Patrick Veer as a coach. He showed me a different style of play because he was coming from the city academy, more positional play. I was used to a different style of play

and probably it was an experience that has helped me a lot after in management. And yes, I feel lucky to have had that experience at the end. I say what, it's probably because it's the first glimpse we've had of him when he arrived at Bournemouth. But when you hear him talk about the managers and the influences that he's had on his career, Glenn, it perhaps really is no surprise

that Bournemouth play the type of football they do and that he's brought the type of success he is bringing to Bournemouth. Yeah, without doubt, Bournemouth, one of my favourite teams last season, just for their style of football. I love their high press, the way they get after anyone they're up against, regardless whether it's bottom of the league or top of the league.

It's been a real breath of fresh air aerola. But I do feel for him. I really do feel for him the way the defence has been absolutely decimated throughout this transfer window, house and two goalkeepers, Keper and Netto both left. because Zabanyi, I mean, it's going to be a difficult Premier League season for them this year. Yeah, he's been speaking ahead of their season opener on Friday night against Liverpool. It's pretty much the toughest game they could have had away at Anfield on a Friday night, isn't it?

And he said it's tough. And I guess it's going to be a busy few weeks for them, isn't it, in the window? It has to be, doesn't it? Yeah, with those outgones. But the good news is they have got good money to spend. They earned good money from all laws. us for that, shouldn't we? Given where those players have gone

and the fees that they've got. Yeah, I mean, yeah, when you list the teams, I mean, they speak with themselves, aren't they? PSG, Real Madrid and Liverpool. I mean, you must be doing something right. And a lot of it is down to him because there was points at last season

where they had so many injuries that I think it was a game away at Newcastle where they had something like 15 appearances, Premier League appearances on the bench. So he shows he can do it because due that injury crisis last year everyone thought that

Bournemouth would fall off they didn't he put a tire up front and he found a way and that is how good of a manager he is if I was Bournemouth I'd be signing players quickly

because he's the last person I'd want to lose. Yeah does their success this season depend on how the next couple of weeks go not on the pitch but I mean in the transfer market well as a former forward

Kelly I would always say it's more important you keep your forward players than your defensive players so I think I think it is a positive that their front line is pretty much and midfield is pretty much unchanged yeah there's a rebuilding process of the back four but I feel as though they've made

some good signings but like anything irreplaceable to lose those especially three defenders and not feel it okay well let's move on to another defence and a defender who got their first opportunity in the Premier League with Bournemouth. Here's Tyrone Mings of Aston Villa. It does feel good, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

It feels like perhaps a reward for the two years of torture. We're obviously gearing up for Newcastle at the weekend and Newcastle away in the first game of two seasons ago was when I got injured. So it's definitely a nice feeling to come back and sign a new contract. It feels like all your hard work has been rewarded. Yeah, as long as I can still help the team. still perform to a high level, then that's what gives me the most satisfaction. You've had two massive injuries in your career, two ACL injuries, one where you're out for

14 months, one where you're out for 15 months back when you were at Bournemouth, and you had a little bit of time out last season as well, although you came back a lot sooner than people expected. That must be so incredibly tough. What does that do to your mindset? it probably allows you to contextualize like what actually football is and what our job is because when it's taken away from you the ability to play at the weekend and the ability to do ultimately what you're paid to do you start to realize what else is what other important things you have in your life because you have to it makes you realize how fragile the relationships in football that you build are so I think it allows you to reflect on what is important and probably

come back with a clearer vision as to what you want to achieve from the game when you do come back. When you have that time off with injuries, do you ever go and do anything else? I pick up new hobbies. I guess it's difficult to pick up an active hobby, isn't it? Like, I really enjoy Jiu-Jitsu, and I was doing that pre-knee injury. I really enjoy the humility that martial arts gives you, because that's probably one place where they really don't care that you play football. and I like going into an environment whereby strength or reputation can't help and that's a humbling experience so yeah I've picked up that and really enjoy that but you did come back from injury last season you've experienced champions league football

that must be like a massive goal ticked off in your career yeah I mean I'm I'm less team goal driven I really find that that's a byproduct of the environment that you're in. So I've never been obsessed with playing in the Champions League, but fortunately the team managed to do that in the year that I was injured and coming back and experiencing that with the club for the club, I take more pride in than for myself. Was it amazing? I think I picked the ball up on my debut in the Champions League, so it wasn't all that great. We'll go over that bit. We won't talk about that. No, no, that's an important part of my Champions League journey. England in Europe and abroad and stuff and it didn't really feel that much different.

So I didn't feel the goosebumps when the Champions League music was playing or anything. It just felt like we were playing away in another country, which is something that I'd experienced before. You mentioned England. I want to talk to you a little bit about England because obviously your injuries mean that you have missed out on the last sort of couple of squads. But now England have got a new manager and Thomas Tuchel. Do you sort of see that as a bit of a fresh start possibly for yourself? Yeah, I guess. I think with some of the decisions that the manager has made

and he's shown that he's open to giving other people opportunities. The Dan Byrne story is amazing. I think him getting the opportunity at the age whereby people are trying to write players off is really refreshing for the game. And my job is to show that I can compete and play to the level that I was before and better and also against the other England centrebacks show that I'm worthy of being in the squad. So, yeah, my first goal is to play well for Aston Villa and England usually comes as a byproduct of that. Vettie Glover there with Tyrone Mings.

He's had quite the journey, hasn't he, at that football club? And he also had quite a lot of adversity in the injuries at Bournemouth as well. He's had a fascinating career, Glenn. Yeah, someone we both know very well, Kelly, started very much at the bottom. And he's worked his way up, a fantastic. athlete, Tyrone, a wonderful organiser. And yeah, regardless of the injuries

he's had, he's still just as good as today as he was at 22. I really like hearing from him as well because he doesn't just feel like a footballer, if you know what I mean? Or he doesn't just talk to us about football. There's a lot more to him. He's always had a bit of an eye on the post in terms of business

and he's on the board of directors for the Euros as well. Yeah, I mean, there's only Tyrone Mings could pull that off, isn't there? Like I say, he talks a great game but his heart in the right place like you say his whole world isn't football, he's got other

interests out of the game that he's probably a little bit more comfortable talking about than other footballers are but it's served him really well because sometimes it is respite the game can be over-consuming at times and yes he's had the opportunity to discover other things through

injuries, long-term injuries and when you are missing the game and you can't play the game that you love then it's good to submerge yourself in other things. Does it feel like a big season for him? It feels what it does for all of the players that want to play in the World Cup next summer. He'll have his eyes, of course,

on an England recall under Thomas Tuckoo. It's kind of a fresh slate for him, but also in terms of playing regularly for Aston Villa, making sure he is the regular starter at centreback. Well, that is first and foremost, it is to become that regular centreback for Aston Villa and then he'll hope that his form can therefore lead into an England call-up.

So, yeah, I mean, first things first for Tyrone is stay fit. Obviously, he's had a few injury concerns in recent years. So staying fit is a priority. Then getting picked week and week out, and hopefully that form can lead him on to, well, into Tuchel's Park plans. Well, you know I, Emery's had plaudits and justified plaudits for bringing Champions League football back to Aston Villa and turned them into one of the teams to be feared again.

in the Premier League. But does he need some silverware this season for his side to really get the true recognition of how good they are? Yeah, I think he would probably like to go a little bit deeper into the Cup competitions. A fantastic run in the Champions League.

I mean, constantly pushing at the top of the Premier League. I think they are about where they should be. It seems to be a little bit of a negative spin about Astonville, this transfer window. Why do you think that is? yeah I'm not entirely sure obviously I've seen John McGinn possibly leaving the likes of Ollie Watkins has been linked with a move away

so I mean if either of those guys move or if there is any movement then I'm that expect some big investment into the club because I think he's done a fantastic job while he's been there okay well let's finish with a chat on the promoted clubs of course those clubs are Burnley Leeds and Sondland and Glenn I want to focus particularly on the black cats because they spent less than 10 million

to go on and win the championship playoff final in May and now they're a club that have spent over £120 million this summer. Yeah, but I'm really happy that they've had a goal. I feel as though they've signed talented people. People that are attacking, have flair. And I think that's what you need when you get in the Premier League is that belief that you can stay there.

Listen, for any of the promoted clubs, it's a really difficult task to stay in the Premier League. and ultimately what you're dealing with is a complete mindset shift of last year winning a lot of games and becoming accustomed to that as well as the fan base and understanding going into the Premier League you can lose three, four, five on the spin but mentally you can't let it affect you.

I guess it kind of is likened, I guess, to Nottingham Forest. Was that what? Back in 2020, they spent 140 million pounds. It felt like that summer it was a constant revolving door in and out of forest, didn't it? But that's kind of what you compare it to. And look what happened to Forrest in the end. And look where they are now. Yeah, I feel as though it probably is a little bit of a roll of the dice within the rules, obviously.

But do you have to? I guess teams, do they have to do that now with how the teams just seem to come straight back and go up and go straight back down otherwise? I do feel as though, especially when you zoom out and you see that out of the three promoted teams, obviously Burnley and Leeds were there not too long ago. So they're accustomed to it. They have still players in their ranks that have played in the Premier Leagues. They've got that experience, whereas Sunderland, they've been away a little while now. So I feel as though that gap between the Championship Premier League is ever growing, whether that's skill, whether that's athleticism,

or even when it comes to VER, it's a completely different game, the way you play it. So I feel as though Sondland were the ones that needed to spend big this summer. One of the signings that has kind of caught the eye is Granite Jacques, a former Arsenal man, of course, he's going to be the captain. as well. That feels like a shrewd move. Yeah, very shrewd move. And like I said, Leeds and Burnley have a little bit of Premier League experience. He brings so much Premier League experience into Sunderland.

He will be an organiser on the pitch for Regis Lebris. It'll be a huge signing for me. Well, from talking about all of the players they've signed, we're now going to hear from one of the players that was there for promotion. But despite only joining a year ago, striker Wilson Isidore always knew he was going to be in the top flight with the Blackcats. When I signed there, I said to everyone around me, in the club, to the fans. We're going to go to Premier League, so that's not a surprise to see us there.

So, so proud to achieve that and ready to now a new objective. You talk about the fans. How deserving are they to experience the Premier League again for Sunderland? I think they show us what they're able to do in Wembley, even in semi-final there. They're just so amazing fans, you know. They know about football. so they deserve to see the Premier League every weekend and obviously to get up here you have to do it through Wembley which is incredible is that honestly one of the greatest days and best achievements of your life getting up to the Premier League through Wend yeah of course of course of course you know when the final whistle just happened I run because I was happy but in the same time I run just for looking at the fans because I wanted to feel what they're feeling so I just stand in front of

of the stand of Wembley and I just look like that around me and I saw some people was taking out the t-shirt they was pushing each other cuddling kissing wow that was so amazing what would Wilson Isid all say to the Sunderland fans ahead of their first Premier League season in eight years what would you say to them first all thank you because it's because of them that we are here without the support we could not go up last season and just take a lot of pleasure enjoy with need your support as never because it will be tough of course

can you stay up yeah of course of course what's that question and we will yes we will of course he's going to say yes do you give them the best chance going out of the three promoted sides I give them a good chance

like we touched on that the gap is just so big they just need to keep listen to him there he's got so much energy and there there seems to be a real belief that they can stay there. They need to maintain that belief throughout the dark months of November

and December and January, where the going gets tough in the Premier League. A quick word on the other two promoted sides then. Firstly, Burnley, we saw how they won the championship title with that incredible defensive record. Scott Parker is known for that style of play. Last time Burnley

came up, they were obviously playing a very different style of football. Can that defensive approach keep them in the top flight? Well, it gives you a foundation that's what it does and I feel as though the last time they were in the Premier League there was a lot of individual errors leading to goals I don't think that would be the case

under Scott Parker so they'll feel that this is the right concoction and there's only a couple of years since they were in the Premier League so there is experience, there's no-how and there'll be a real togetherness at Burnley. What about Leeds then because we know they're a huge football club

Daniel Fark when you think of him in the Premier League you think of how they Norwich got back to the top flight in 2019 and then they came down that same season under him. When you look at Leeds' squad, did they have enough? I know there's some concern as well around the fact they maybe haven't got another striker.

Yeah, a little bit of concern around Leeds and their manager. Obviously, you mentioned his previous at Norwich, where that was a very good championship stroke Premier League squad that he couldn't quite keep them up. I think what is integral at Leeds is they harness that Ellen Road crowd and make it a venue that is very difficult. to get points out of. Yeah, needs to have to wait until Monday to kick off

their Premier League return day taking on Everton at Elland Road. Well, that's all from me and Glenn. Don't forget Five Live and Sports Extra will bring you more Premier League commentary than ever before this season with over 200 games. We're going to bring you the choice of two commentaries at 3pm every Saturday plus the 5.30 game. And each Sunday we're going to bring you all the scheduled 2pm games as well as the big 4.30 kickoff, which this week is Manchester United against Arsenal.

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