Football Daily - Remember When... We Went To USA '94
Episode Date: June 7, 2026The last time the World Cup was on North American soil in 1994, many football fans were sceptical. But it planted the seed of America’s soccer culture today, and it has lived long in the memory of t...wo nations in particular. Rick Edwards is joined by Brazil fan Edson and two Ireland fans - Rodney and Phelim - who all travelled to the United States. They describe a sometimes underwhelming atmosphere gripped by the stifling heat, but punctuated with unforgettable moments for their teams.02:20 - Expectations of the US 1994 World Cup 05:00 - The lack of a ‘soccer culture’ 8:10 - Edson growing up watching Brazil 10:07 - Ireland coming up against Roberto Baggio’s Italy 16:35 - The excruciating heat 18:40 - John Aldridge’s famous outburst 20:40 - Why things ended in disappointment for the Irish 22:50 - An unconventional Brazil team 25:20 - Brazil vs Netherlands 27:10 - Phelim and Rodney causing chaos in Fort Lauderdale 29:15 - Brazil and Ireland welcomed home 32:30 - The significance of the 1994 World Cup for both nations
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Hello and welcome to Remember When,
the show that brings together football fans to talk about the seismic moments
that shape their team's history and had a massive impact on their own lives as well.
We're here to talk about the stories, the memories, the moments that United us as football fans,
wherever we're from and whoever we support.
I'm Rick Edwards, and today we're going back to the last time the World Cup was on North American soil in 1994.
What do you know about the World Cup?
About the what?
The World Cup?
World Cup, that's the soccer?
Yes.
I'm sorry, I don't know anything about it.
When you're out in the desert, all you think about is the heat.
When FIFA awarded the World Cup to the United States of America, many were skeptical.
Americans still saw soccer as a minor sport.
Oh, I don't know anything.
If it's too low scoring a game, it's too boring for American audiences.
Soccer, as in like English football?
Right.
It's very good.
Gotta go.
32 years later, this tournament is remembered as a bit of an awakening,
the four weeks that kick-started America's soccer culture.
And going into this World Cup in 2026, things look very different.
I think they're capable of winning us.
Oh, yes, yes.
That's why we're here.
We've gave up the drink for the last three months,
so our first point now will be in New York.
The summer of 1994 was also particularly important
for two nations at the tournament.
Ireland, competing in their second ever World Cup,
and Brazil, who was searching for an elusive fourth World Cup triumph
after 24 years without one.
Today we're going to relive that remarkable summer of football
in the company of three fans who were there,
because this is Remember When, we went to.
USA 94.
Soccer is fun.
I know anything about the World Cup.
Okay, let's introduce the three football fans that are joining me today.
We've got Brazil fan, Edson.
Hello.
And our two Ireland fans, Rodney.
How are you?
Very well, thank you.
And Phelip.
Delight to be here.
And you're all here because you went to the 1994 World Cup, first ever World Cup in the
U.S.
Edson, I start with you.
What were your expectations, if you had any, of the U.S.,
and what this tournament would be like before you arrived?
I was excited to go to the United States, my first time in the United States.
Second, to watch Brazil, support in Brazil in the World Cup.
I was over the moon.
Brazil hasn't done much since 1970.
And that World Cup, first time in America, it would be very, very, very important.
It occurred to me actually that it's quite for a Brazilian sports fan,
it's quite an emotional time that year anyway,
because Senna had died like a couple of months before,
who was the national sporting icon,
or certainly one of them.
So I guess it was quite, yeah, sort of emotionally loaded for Brazilian fans.
Well, I was losing, not losing interest,
because this is now a bloodlet,
a bit football,
but because the Brazilian never since 9-17
hasn't got too close to the finals,
this man starts winning racing,
and he became,
he filled the gap for the audience,
which is missing.
It is, it is a lady,
comment, one of the best commenters says,
well, he died,
is the only thing we had hope for,
every weekend watch a Eeyotong win a race.
Because he was quite emotional the way he did.
He would come out with a flag, a Brazilian flag.
So let's say football was dying.
In 1994, it was brought Brazil back.
Brazilian football needed it.
And Rodney Phelian, you came out in a big group, didn't you?
I think 50 of you.
Yeah, about 50.
What was the anticipation like for you guys?
First of all, Ireland's second ever?
World Cup.
And then secondly,
the venue,
the location for it,
which was,
you know,
at the time,
I think it was controversial.
Yeah.
We were sort of actually
on a bit of a high
because we were at the World Cup
in 1990 in Italy
and that was a superb.
Now we're talking about
experience of football strips.
This was,
we were really looking forward
to the United States.
Many of us had been there.
I worked in the United States
and I've checked the statute of limitations
or was illegal.
while I was in college in Dublin
I used to go over for the summers
and work with my uncle construction sites
so we had most of the guys had been around
but you're right
but you were saying
thought I wasn't big over there
like we couldn't get a game
like we had to have pick up matches
with British guys Irish guys
and South Americans in the parks
there was no there was
didn't they be like even at a local level
there was no nothing you could go and watch
but I mean the attendance figures for that tournament
a massive.
It's like three and a half million people went,
which I think is maybe still a record.
And that's more probably about the size of the stadiums.
But I wonder if you guys noticed anything
about the kind of demographic makeup of the fans.
I'm kind of interested by who was there,
apart from the hardcore.
Who was filling those stadiums?
Well, there was,
there had been a recession in the 80s,
so a lot of Irish people had emigrated
to the major cities like Boston, New York,
and in their case.
as well around New Jersey.
We still had people we knew,
maybe relations, whatever.
But they everyone turned up.
And then, of course,
probably forgot to mention this.
The whole OJ Simpson thing was going on.
During the World Cup.
Of course it was.
Yeah.
So we were going...
The day we arrived in Manhattan,
he was getting chased
and it was all on the screens
all over the barren.
That way, in the Bronco.
Yeah.
Yeah, in the Bronco, yeah.
That was the day we arrived in Manhattan.
We were going,
the guy from the police academy.
Yeah.
Well, police squad.
Police squad.
No, I think people more knew him outside of America
for being in police squad and made a young.
Exactly, yeah.
Who were you watching, because you went to one live game, Edson.
Who were you watching the other games with?
Did you find, like, a community of people to watch with?
Sometimes I find, I didn't have many people with me to watch the match.
Brazil at that time, economically, it was very bad.
I think bad, in other words, but economically,
I don't think
the Brazilians
who went to World Cup
from Brazil, it was kind of
upper-class
Brazilians. I know a story
about the family of this
family which was the Gherkin here,
the Safra family,
all their family
went together, almost in a private
jack to Brazil to America
towards the match. It was not
like the day. It wasn't for everyone.
It was not for everyone.
And it was difficult for the Brazilian to get out of Brazil.
Although I see, I met the Brazilians outside the stadium there,
which I compare with today's life,
when I see they following Brazilian clubs in Japan,
it was nothing like that in then.
Also, I think probably visa costs,
it was, which is reduced the amount of Brazilian.
But the attendance in the stadium is correct.
All is full.
Yeah.
But not full all with Brazilian.
No.
It's probably not full with hardcore football fans.
It's not like you guys, you have a huge community.
If it was today, the amount of Brazilians in America is huge.
And Edson, it must have been particularly special for you
because watching Brazil back home was not the easiest thing when you were growing up.
Before 1970, even for the Brazilians,
if for me it was the first time I see life.
football on color.
My parents didn't have a TV color in 1970s.
It was in black and white.
So we went to a friend of a friend of my old ago that we have about 20 kids there.
Oh, sitting there.
I remember even the brand of the TV.
We couldn't afford to.
We couldn't afford television color TV.
And in 66, I remember we used to see it.
You used to hear football through the radio.
We stay all around the radio.
The TV screen, it was black and white,
and they introduced something kind of black spots.
They tried to adjust where the Brazilian player or the opposition player.
So it was not fun to watch.
But the radio, it was sitting around the radio.
Because it was filmed.
We only see the match the day after.
The Irish team had peaked around about 92
which we didn't qualify for the euros in 92
and I think if we had qualified for that tournament
England just about edged past that qualification group
and they were lucky and England really flunked it
in Sweden in 92 and I think the Irish team
really missed out there
so we still had a very, the nucleus is a very strong squad
it was maybe ageing a little bit
but we knew we'd make an impression on the tournament
when it came to the first game
we'd probably touch on that but
we expected maybe the attendance in the first game with the Italians
because of the two Irish community, Italian communities were huge.
But when we got into Giant Stadium, it was just Irish everywhere.
It was probably three to one Irish fans in Giant Stadium that day.
It was just incredible.
Can you remember what it felt like in the Giant Stadium
seeing your boys come out against Roberto Baggio's Italy?
It was, yeah, it was just unbelievable.
And to see our hero like Paul McGrath's going,
I'm going to be American badger.
And no,
no problem.
No problem.
But to see the guys,
but for us looking around,
we're going,
where's the Italian supporters?
Oh,
and we're going,
maybe they're on the tier below.
Oh,
they weren't.
They weren't.
It was just,
this was like a home game.
Let's go at them.
You know,
there was,
but it was Italy.
You know,
it's not just one name.
It's,
no,
it's like four,
I think four of the starting Italian
team that day
had been,
had won the
Champions League
only a month
before.
So when they beat
Barcelona 4-0
Maldini was in there
Donodoney
yeah
Ivani
Masserro
had played in the
Champions League
final but he played
come on as a sub
against Ireland
then Dania
and Barezi
hadn't played
in the Champions League
finally he was suspended
but Borez he played
that day in Giant Stadium
so we were
we knew we were
going against a formidable
Italian team
but like I said
this Ireland
the Irish team was still very strong.
They were a team in every sense.
We were still very well organised under Jack.
And then as it proved,
just Paul McGrath had the game of his life that day, you know.
And well, to answer your question,
when the teams come out,
it just was hairs on the back of the next stuff.
Because of the Irish support.
They must have been so emotional
for the Irish expats to be there that day
in their new home,
seeing their home country,
you know,
and the tri-colours everywhere and the noise
and it was just, yeah,
it was spawning.
I'm going to try and get a sense of the geography for you guys
because I want to know the angle that you had on Ray Houghton's goal
which is one of the
it's one of the most
if you say World Cup goal to me
it's one that pops into my head
it's so iconic
and he looks so surprised to score it as well
I was at row one at the very top
in line where he hit the ball
that was it at that end
it's fantastic
it was like
it just
First,
did that go in?
And then there was,
it always appears
to me,
maybe it's just
your mind playing tricks.
It's like just a delay.
It feels like three seconds.
Everyone's got,
that didn't go in.
But no,
place just interrupted.
That was just.
Even when you,
even when you watch the replay
and he hits it,
you still can't quite believe
it's going to go in.
Yeah,
because he hit it's funny.
He got an amazing dip on it.
And the goal,
he was positioned himself
way off his line.
Yeah.
But the guy didn't,
even really move. I think the goal he thought maybe
it was going over or something.
It just goes to sell directly over.
Yeah. Yeah. This is
going over. Yeah. I'm bothering for this. Yeah.
No, it just dropped in. So, yeah,
absolutely incredible.
They said, peddle him.
And then, like
88, oh no,
we've about an hour.
Yeah, we scored after 12 minutes. Yeah.
It's a long time. It's a long time's old out.
We scored up for six minutes against England in the Stuttgart.
Yeah. We had
night. And that was
Again, the longest hour and a half of your life.
But it was great.
One thing we did find out later was that Paul McGrath, although he's man of the match,
I think he played a whole game.
He had a virus infection in his left arm.
So it was, if you ever notice the videos, it's hanging.
He couldn't, he couldn't move it.
Wow.
But he's still Mark Barrazi and not Barrazi, Baggio.
But his arm is limp for most of the game.
He couldn't, but either he didn't say it to anyone or he just said it.
Yeah, it's kind of his performance in that game was hard as well, didn't it?
Nothing will ever come close to that for me.
For me, Paul McGrath is the greatest Irish player that ever lived.
We've had John Giles, we've had Roy King, we've had Liam Brady.
But for me, Paul had everything.
And given his injury problems with his knees and his personal problems with alcohol
and his very troubled upbringing, for Paul to produce what he produced that day
in front of, you know, the traditional best defenders in the world,
And you had Beredi, you had Maldini that day.
And Paola Maldini actually referred to Paul's performance after that day to say that was an incredible.
And Paul, it was just astonishing how good you want.
But like I said, as far as concerned, he's the best Irish player ever.
And we knew Paul was capable of that.
And he still did his day, doesn't realize how bloody good he was.
He is so modest.
And he's a national treasure, Paul McGrath.
Everybody loves Paul.
But he was an incredible footballer.
And that day was just,
I still get goosebumps really thinking of it.
You know, he was just...
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When you were travelling around following the team,
did you know where the team was staying?
Did you run into them at any point?
Yeah, we ran into them.
The day after the Mexico game,
the second game was in Orlando.
That's another story,
to match itself in terms of the temperature.
If we played at 12, 30 in the afternoon,
the temperature of pitch level was 110 degrees
it was 93 outside the stadium
even the
even the locals said this is ridiculous
expect teams to play
Mexico okay we're probably used to but still 110 degrees
for anyone so much
over 200 people were attended to by paramedics
on the day eight went to hospital
of which I was one
oh really yeah I went to hospital
heat exhaustion I knew during the first half
I'm in trouble here so half time I went down
under the stand, says, I don't feel well. And I was hooked up to a drip, taking a hospital
for the second half. So I missed all the shenanigans with John Aldridge. So yeah, it was savage
to expect professional footballers to try and play football in that heat. And you mentioned the players,
we met John Sheridan, Kevin Moran and Dennis Irwin the following day, because Kevin Moran had friends
in our group. And Dennis Irwin said it was about the second goal in the second half, the second
Mexico goal. The ball comes across from the left and Dennis was right back. It went over his head
and he went to chase the Mexican player
his brain said chase him
his leg said no
couldn't move
it was outrageous you know
we did well to lose 2 1
in those conditions
it's insane to think that it was a 12th that he kickoff
like it really is yeah
we were sweating
we were sweating green
um gatorade
that's the truth
that's true yeah we were we were advised
are you guys trying to sneak beer in
no um you want to
security guys were telling us
get the gate rate into you
It was vitamins, salts, everything.
And we had these t-shirts from our local pub.
And look at my brother.
I was going, he's green sweat.
From the Gatorade.
It was insane.
It was.
No, it wasn't.
It was dangerous.
It was actually dangerous.
There was, of course, that very famous moment
when John Aldridge is shouting a lot
at what we would now call the fourth official.
Him and Phil Bab were waiting to come on
and there was a delay
and it really kicked off.
You must remember this.
They're arguing down there.
Morris said us at the moment
with a FIFA official
because John Aldridge
was about to come on for Tommy Coyne
and they wouldn't allow that to happen.
Things are getting a little hot and bothered down there
as Aldridge waits to come on
for the Republic of Ireland.
Jack Charlton's having a furious up and down there
with the American official down there.
We can have a look around. We didn't know. Somebody's fighting with John
Aldridge and Jack is getting involved
and then we realize
they're shouting it
it didn't take too long
to realize what Aldo was saying
to the ref
no no
even from we're gone
oh god
and we're going
we're more worried
that hold on
he hasn't even come on
yeah he's going to get booked
yeah
and I think he got booked
in one of the other games
somebody goes
oh he might get a suspension
but no
I think
did he throw water
at
did he throw water
at one of the officials
I think
I actually can't
I should have
rewatched it
I remember all the FN
and Jeff in really
Yeah, yeah.
Don't think he could through that and, but yeah, it was...
No, I think he might have thrown a water pouch at somebody.
Yeah.
Well, that's actually nice because everyone's very hot,
so it's quite sweet of him in the moment.
Yeah, you look thirsty.
And now let me on.
I think the only other thing that came to mind that Dennis,
I think was Dennis said or Steve Stompton said,
oh, he said, the other thing I'll tell you guys,
he ran over to take a throw in
amongst a whole bank of Irish fans
and everyone just roared out of my wild ago.
And all you could get was to smell
beer.
Right on to the pitch.
Just a miss.
Is there a sort of trace of disappointment for you guys that Ireland
didn't get a bit further?
Obviously got out of the group stages with a set of results
that I don't think he would have particularly predicted.
And then fell against Holland
or a really good, really good side,
but maybe not quite as good an account
as you could have given of yourselves.
We made a few serious mistakes.
That is fair.
I think at that stage, like I said,
I think 92 was probably,
would have been in that team's peak.
In 94, we're still formidable
and we'd beat in Italy,
but we didn't have the biggest depth of squad.
Jack really stuck with the same 11 bar suspensions.
And I don't think that helped as well because of the climate.
I think Jack was a bit stubborn in his team's election that he may have, in hindsight,
tweak the team a bit more.
Admittedly, modern football, you tweak the team an awful lot more these days anyway.
But I think Jack was a little bit too stubborn.
We went out with a whimper against the Dutch.
Again, it was Orlando, but it wasn't nearly as warm as the Mexico game.
So the climate was a lot cooler that day.
We didn't turn up really.
And the Dutch were a really good team, as we know.
And then when they were one up,
Paci Bonner made a terrible mistake
for the second Dutch goal,
two and the down in the first half.
There's no way back.
And you could see our...
And when the players are tired,
the team were out on their feet down the second half.
Yeah, they were gone. They were gone.
It was a bridge too far.
Yeah.
So, yeah, of course, we were disappointed,
but we weren't...
I wasn't overly surprised, really, you know?
Yeah.
You never know how, had we beaten the Norwegians.
We may have got...
I think there was a more favourable joy.
You sort of didn't want...
But you had to say, yeah, I want to play Holland.
but there possibly could have been an easier route.
But as we're saying earlier,
you would have had Brazil in the...
Yeah, the prize was,
if you beat Holland, you get to play Brazil and Dallas.
And that would have been...
That would have been the final for us, really.
Yeah.
But the Brazilians in the past said
Brazil didn't worry about how many goals.
No, no.
They said, okay, you score three, I scored four.
I scored three, four.
I scored three, four.
It was attacking it.
atmosphere.
Even celebrations
change a little bit.
I admire the Brazilians
the way
they celebrate
in the World Cup
with someone
had a baby
they were
Babetto
is one of the greats
all the other things
are about
very clearly
all the three
doing the same
because Babetto
Romario and
Zin was thinking
they all go to this
they're all laughing
and
this is the football
we always expect
to happen
And it was the World Cup of Romario.
Romario had been, I can't even remember why,
but he'd been out of favor for some reason with the Brazil.
He's in this politics.
I have, we heard the rumors.
They were trying to keep him out of the national team in 1994.
And Romario, it was, he's a real proper football.
Yeah, it was his story.
It is, it is some story about Romario when he play.
He played in Barcelona.
He used to call Croiff, Mr.
Mr.
Can I go to Brazil for the carnival?
No.
No.
Because he will go, he won't come back in three, four weeks.
And eventually, they have a match.
And he said, okay, if you score a goal, you can go.
You can go if I score a goal, yes.
What's happening?
He scored three goals.
He scored two goals half time.
and he already started to change
so why are you going?
You know the players start to look at it.
I said, if I score a goal,
I score three goals.
And then he's got injured just before
the, I think the
1990 woke up.
He was injured in
Holland. He was playing Holland.
So he was really
someone said to him, oh,
Pelle, said, Pelle is a piece of a museum.
Now is Romario.
He's, he, he's, he,
He was scot phlegal.
He was confident.
Very confident.
I'm rightly, so.
It was, we didn't expect it.
Him and Babette play as well.
Actually, in person, I didn't like much about the middle field.
I didn't like dunga style of football.
I didn't like more receiver.
But they grow and doing the tournament.
And they supply those guys with the bow.
They score it.
So, Edson, the game that you were at
was probably the best game of the tournament,
Brazil, Netherlands in Dallas.
I didn't have the ticket.
And I was on the stage a couple of days before
because I tried to see if I could see Maradona
when I learned about the story about his bedroom,
he has a pharmacy.
Anyway, I was on the way back.
I was on the way back.
I see all these people coming, going to the stage.
And if I said I come across these two ladies,
Mexican ladies, which I met before,
into upper drinks and the bar we used to meet.
And she looked at me, says like, come with us.
I have a ticket.
Do you want?
Yeah.
And I went there.
I was excited to see Holland.
I admire the, we do all respect to you guys.
I admire the Dutch football.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And Dennis Berkamp and High Card, it was on the team.
So I said, well, we're going to see a good match today.
And then two in you.
And they were suddenly, I think in the same.
second half, they scored two goals.
Yeah, Burkhan scored. He's a tremendous place.
Oh, we cannot lose this.
We're about in memories of that free kick, that Branco
free kick that won it.
Well, it was more or less in the front, it was in my side,
more or less in the front of me,
I heard commentators say,
oh, I don't know if it was a, if it was real free kick,
but they...
He makes the most of it.
He made the most of it.
I think he'd wax someone immediately before.
I just felt like that.
It was great free kick.
I cannot deny that.
But I was really happy.
Really happy to it.
But Brazil weren't finished yet,
with their winning goal coming in spectacular fashion
from Branco's free kick.
Did you guys watch the rest of the tournament?
Where were you for it?
Yeah, we sort of, the plan for us
was to go to New York for the first game,
and then we were relocating to Fort Lauderdale.
Yeah.
We did a great.
time in Fort Lauderdale.
We had some instances in one or two instances.
They're all harmless, really, I think.
Well, I mean, I'm feeling nervous.
We carry on.
We came back from one day just down the beach or whatever.
Next day we see everyone in the lobby.
There's cops and looked like fire department or pest pet control or something.
Apparently, oh, four floors has been evacuated.
You know, we're on the first floor.
the four floor. What's going on? Oh, the venomous snake
has been seen. We don't know how many there is, but definitely saw one.
Oh, wait a minute. So we went up to the room. No, no, I think, well, no, you can't go in
there and I went in. My brother had a St. Patrick's uniform that he wore. Oh, and he had a,
and he brought it. It's a green with the hat and he had a snake. And when the
cleaner, the cleaner came into the room. That's fantastic.
So when the cleaner came into the room
she saw the snake sticking out from under the bed
Like I mean it was serious
Like they did evacuate the floor because they go
If there's one, is there two? Is there how many?
We're going, oh we just picked it up
But you look at this, it's rubber
But it was still though
Was the World Cup on?
You walk around Fort Lauderdale you wouldn't know
When the Brazil team
Won the final
As we say it was not a great
Not a great final
Everyone remembers Baguio's
miss.
When they came back to Brazil,
what were the celebrations like?
Huge.
Huge.
You can imagine.
The Brazilian hasn't made the fine for a long time.
It was a bank holiday
organized by the government.
It's a good boost for any government.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Especially Brazil.
Yeah.
And you cannot compare it 70.
because events of live transmission for the first time all of the world in color.
For me, it was the biggest impact, but it was huge.
And now we're back.
Now we're going to win every World Cup.
That's what they probably think about.
And we can see now we can still find good players.
But when we talk about team together,
Seems to be a difficult task.
I've read something somewhere about the Brazil team flying back into Rio, I imagine,
and being really late because the players had been out, well, celebrating,
but then going and buying loads of consumer goods.
So like TVs and fridges and stuff like that.
And so I've been loading all that onto the plane.
Is that right?
possibly.
I cannot
say stress
but it is
probably a couple
of watches.
Buy yourself
a fridge.
What sort of
reception
did the Irish
team get
when they arrived
back in Dublin?
Well, they got a
reception
but again
it was a bit
like the team
it was a bit
half-hearted
the celebration
in 94
to greet
in 1990
it was off the
charts
because it was
our first World Cup
we got to
the quarter final
in 19.
1990 and
it seemed like
half of the
country welcomed them home.
There was a party
in the Phoenix Park
but it was a bit of a flop
to be honestly 94
and I think the players
their body language
was get us out of here.
It was,
they didn't really need to do it.
I thought it was a bad idea.
You know,
we'd beat in Italy brilliant
but it was a pretty
underwhelming World Cup
after that and I think
that party in the Phoenix Park
for me was as underwhelming as well
the players' hearts weren't in it.
They were in 1990,
I'd say 1990 was special.
The whole country
came to a standstill
in 1990
were there for us
were cooking
we done so well
but 94
for me
that party was a bad
idea
and I guess
the feeling
as you say
that Jack
Charlton was
probably
coming to the end
of the road
and lot of the
players were
and getting older
I think the
five players
in their 30s
half the team was
yeah
and although we started
the qualification
well for a euro
96
the wheels
come off
towards the end
of the group
and then again
we met the Dutch
in a playoff
in Anfield
in 95
and we got
beaten 2-0, but it could have been
5 or 6. And then
that was the Jack's last night.
That was it. Yeah, it's over.
Overall then, how do you reflect
on that World Cup, the USA
94 World Cup, from a fan
point of view, Edson?
We always want to make America
part of the football.
So it was great for
Brazil win
in America.
Come back to the football,
win in America, all the other
issues mentioned to
economically. Brazil introduced
a new currency.
After so many problems,
they did Crusado, Cruzeiros,
in a very short period.
And they lost
Sena. So it was
huge for Brazil. Obviously the
highlight was the Italy match.
Never to be forgotten. We
relive it every now and then. It comes up
in conversation more than you would actually think.
Probably should. But
yeah, a great trip.
Like there's a bunch of guys from our club, marriage with another club, 50, all ages.
Like, I mean, there was probably teenagers up to 70 year olds.
Like, that's if, just all fans together.
For me, for me, Rick, and I know this is a UK podcast, but before we went, I was delighted that England hadn't qualified because we had experienced, we had England in the group in Euro 88 in Italian 90.
And you were always wary of your hooliganism.
I'm sorry, but that's the way it was.
And as we know, Margaret Thatcher threatened to pull England out in 1990 if they misbehaved.
So the fact that England weren't going to be in a barry on the corner for me,
like I was 27, 28 at the time in America.
So you wanted to go and enjoy the football and enjoy your drinks
and have, and mingle with the other countries without having this concern.
Slight potential threat.
Yeah, it wasn't.
And we saw them right in where we were based in Cologne and Germany in 88.
We got, we got caught up in our life.
So that was in your mind.
So for us, it was just, for me, it was great.
Again, no offense, that England weren't there
because there was no fans to cause trouble there.
So it was just three of the greatest weeks of my life
in terms of supporting the Irish team
and making, you know, meeting the other countries
and just meeting the Irish expats.
And yeah, and it was my second time in America,
but it was the first time to really get me teeth into it.
And it was three glorious weeks.
Just I'll never forget the three.
Magic, yeah, magic.
Yeah, I mean, for sort of completely different reasons, really.
Me as a 15-year-old watching it on TV when my dad had record it,
sort of the night before the games.
And I enjoyed it more than Italian 90, even though that was an amazing tournament,
but it was just quite, I find watching England quite stressful.
Fundamentally, I find it stressful.
And just watching just a tournament unfold with lots of like fans.
fun narratives and without the stress of
like it didn't really mind
who won. I loved it.
There's a great tournament
with a slightly disappointing final
but good job review. I think it's going to be
I think they've learned
and they do organise things well
they weren't great with their beer serving
after matches
they had a fan zone and joint stadium
but they never copped on was
50,000 Irish people who won three points now
right?
You can make a lot of money here
It'll peter off after that
And everyone will go steady
Yeah different culture
It's a different culture
In American football
People are drifting up to the bar
In the grounds
Yeah
Yeah during the game
Because they have all the stoppages
And the timeouts
Yeah
But half time
And everyone wants two beers now
And right now
And
I can't emphasize that enough
It used to be now
And they're going
We're dehydrated.
Is that two?
It was two.
It's three now.
So there was, yeah, yeah.
But that's a minor, minor complaint.
Your rest of it was just...
I feel like you all had a lovely time anyway.
Incredible.
Edson, Rodney, Phelham.
Thank you so much for joining me
and thank you for listening to this episode
at the Football Daily.
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