Football Daily - The Commentators' View: Macc magic & the Arctic awaits!

Episode Date: January 16, 2026

John Murray, Ian Dennis & Ali Bruce-Ball talk football, travel & language. They share their experiences of Macclesfield’s FA Cup triumph and have their say on the Michael Carrick & Liam Rosenior appointments. John is getting ready for his trip to the Arctic. There’s Clash of the Commentators controversy, more unintended pub names, and which commentary phrases will end up in our Great Glossary? Suggestions welcome on WhatsApp voicenotes to 08000 289 369 & emails to [e-mail]01:40 Macclesfield sprinkle the magic 09:40 Thoughts on Michael Carrick & Liam Rosenior 15:15 5 Live commentaries this weekend 18:05 John prepares for the Arctic! 21:40 Unintended pub names & railway stations 27:25 Clash of the Commentators 35:10 Great Glossary of Football Commentary 42:00 John’s FA Cup error!5 Live / BBC Sounds commentaries: Sat 1500 Tottenham v West Ham, Sat 1500 Chelsea v Brentford on Sports Extra, Sat 1730 Nottingham Forest v Arsenal, Sun 1400 Wolves v Newcastle, Sun 1630 Aston Villa v Everton, Tue 1745 Bodø/Glimt v Man City, Tue 2000 Tottenham v Borussia Dortmund, Wed 2000 Newcastle v PSV, Wed 2000 Marseille v Liverpool on Sports Extra.Great Glossary of Football Commentary: DIVISION ONE Back to square one, Bosman, Cruyff Turn, Cultured/educated left foot, Dead-ball specialist, Draught excluder, Elastico/flip-flap Fox in the box, Giving the goalkeeper the eyes, Head tennis, Hibs it, In a good moment, In behind, Magic of the FA Cup, The Maradona, Off their line, Olimpico, Onion bag, Panenka, Park the bus, Perfect hat-trick, Rabona, Roy of the Rovers stuff, Schmeichel-style, Scorpion kick, Spursy, Tiki-taka, Trivela, Where the kookaburra sleeps, Where the owl sleeps, Where the spiders sleep.DIVISION TWO Back on the grass, Ball stays hit, Beaten all ends up, Blaze over the bar, Business end, Came down with snow on it, Catching practice, Camped in the opposition half, Cauldron atmosphere Coat is on a shoogly peg, Come back to haunt them, Corridor of uncertainty, Couldn’t sort their feet out, Easy tap-in, Daisy-cutter, First cab off the rank, Giant-killing, Good leave, Half-turn, Has that in his locker, High wide and not very handsome, Hospital pass, Howler, In their pocket, Johnny on the spot, Leading the line, Nice headache to have, Nutmeg, One for the cameras, One for the purists, Played us off the park, Points to the spot, Prawn sandwich brigade, Purple patch, Put their laces through it, Reaches for their pocket, Rolls Royce, Root and branch review, Row Z, Screamer, Seats on the plane, Show across the bows, Slide-rule pass, Steal a march, Straight in the bread basket, Stramash, Taking one for the team, Telegraphed that pass, That’s great… (football), Thunderous strike, Turns on a sixpence, Walk it in, We’ve got a cup tie on our hands.UNSORTED 2-0 is a dangerous score, After you Claude, All-Premier League affair, Aplomb, Bag/box of tricks, Brace, Brandished, Bread and butter, Breaking the deadlock, Bundled over the line, Champions elect / champions apparent, Clinical finish, Commentator’s curse, Coupon buster, Denied by the woodwork, Draught excluder, Elimination line, Fellow countryman, Foot race, Formerly of this parish, Free hit, Goalkeepers’ Union, Goalmouth scramble, Good touch for a big man, Honeymoon Period, In and around, In the shop window, Keeping ball under their spell, Keystone Cops defending, Languishing, Loitering with intent, Marching orders, Nestle in the bottom corner, Numbered derbies, Opposite number, PK for penalty-kick, Postage stamp, Put it in the mixer, Rasping shot, Red wine not white wine, Relegation six-pointer, Rooted at the bottom, Route One, Sending the goalkeeper the wrong way, Shooting boots, Sleeping giants, Slide rule pass, Small matter of, Spiders web, Stayed hit, Steepling, Stinging the palms, Stonewall penalty, Straight off the training ground, Taking one for the team, Team that likes to play football, Throw their cap on it, Thruppenny bit head / 50p head, Towering header, Two good feet, Turning into a basketball match, Turning into a cricket score, Usher/Shepherd the ball out of play, Walking a disciplinary tightrope, Wand of a left foot, Wrap foot around it, Your De Bruynes, your Gundogans etc.

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the football we've seen, and what the words mean in our great glossary of football commentary, and there are some superb suggestions and entries on the way for the great glossary of football commentary this week. A reminder, your WhatsApp and voice notes to 08,289-369, and your emails to TCV at BBC.com. I have the pleasure of being joined by my two favourite people in football broadcasting, other than Chris Sutton and Statman Dave.

And Connor McNamara. Connor McNamara. Yeah, don't forget Connor. It's John Murray and Ian Dennis. How are we, chaps? You've been enjoying League Cup semi-final first-leg action this week, and you had some VAR Fargo to deal with, Ian, at St. James's Park. Yes, five and a half minutes was the delay.

I mean, as you know, I'm not necessarily a huge fan of VAR, and that was the beauty of last weekend with the FA Cup, is that you knew when the decisions were made that the goals stood or the flow to the game was so much better. And then we saw all that hoo-ha over the five and a half minutes over that goal that was ultimately disallowed. So, yeah, it wasn't a great spectacle of whatever. say. Just on the FA Cup, John, we're obviously going to come to that a little bit later in the show,

because last week we were talking about the build-up to McElwield against Crystal Palace, and then McElwold against Crystal Palace happened. Greatest F.A. Cup giant killing ever in 145 years of the competition. That must be one of the best footballing occasions you will have been at, I would have thought. Yeah, I think I would say that. And I think it is debatable about whether it is actually, the biggest cup upset in terms of the size of it and the reverberations. But it is factually because of the number of places between the teams and the fact that

it was the first time a team from the sixth tier had knocked out a team from the top flight. I think personally, I think Rexham Arsenal is probably just ahead of it. Because Arsenal were the champions and they got knocked out by the team at the bottom of the league. However, in terms of league places, it is the biggest cup upset. And it just felt, I mean, we'll talk about it later, but I mean, it was an extraordinary day. What about Bradford City knocking out Chelsea at Stamford Bridge? Ali, you were there. Yeah.

They were 2-0 down that day. 2-0 down. Now, obviously, that was League 1 Premier League, but I think the thing that made that so extraordinary, I remember it on the day, Chelsea's home record. So that was the second coming of Jose Marino. That wasn't the first Jose Marino team that stormed. to the league two seasons in a row, but it was still an incredibly strong team.

And the home record, that's what made that so remarkable, is that they'd not been beaten at home for a long, long time. And their record also, Ian, I did Charlton Chelsea in the third round in the weekend just gone. And Chelsea's record against lower league opposition in domestic cup competitions is absolutely unbelievable. So I think it's now 64 wins in 66 games.

And the last time they were beaten by lower league opposition was that game you're talking about? Another big upset that I was at and commentated on was Shrewsbury against Everton, which was a similar-ish part of the world. It was a very similar day, I remember. And that was the thing about last Saturday. As I said, a few times on air since then.

In actual fact, from the moment I stepped out of the door that morning, and it was the most perfect winter's morning, sunny, crisp, frost on the ground. And as I said, yeah, last Saturday, I did have a little skid in the car on the way to the match as well. But once I got there, just to see the scenario, see that frost on the artificial pitch as well, that never went away. It was always there in parts of the pitch. It just had all of the ingredients and so many storylines. So it was all set up and it happened. I have to say, it was a great

listen. And also, not just the commentary with you and Paul Robinson, but I thought Gary Flintoff as well, sort of like captured the moment as well with all of the post-match interviews that he did on the pitch because I can imagine that that was extremely chaotic. It was. I was sitting up in the little Silk FM stand watching Gary in amongst everything that was going on

and Gary had his kid. So all of his broadcast kit was down on the ground next to a hoarding. But there were photographers and people and people kept walking behind Gary in between him and his kid kicking the wires out. And even during the course of one interview,

Gary had to stop because his headphones had been kicked out and he couldn't hear anything. And he had to bend down and put it back in while the interview. I think it was the goal scorer, Isaac Buckley Ricketts, was sort of looking down at him as if to say, what are you doing? We're going to move in and see if we get hold of Isaac here. Isaac, hello.

Can I say quick hello? You're live on five live. Please do not swear. as one of my colleagues which is very kindly pulled out my headphones. Isaac, many congratulations. How are you feeling? I'm feeling very good right now, honestly.

It's still not saying, still not saying yet. I was just picturing Gary then, because you know when your headphones get taken off your head like that, your head gets yanked, doesn't it? Your head sort of goes with them. And that's the joy of live radio at a moment like that because anything can happen.

And it really does feel, I mean, the whole point of it is that you feel like you're there And you're right, Ian, I listen to the whole thing, you know, sitting at home, having my lunch waiting to do Charlton Chelsea later in the evening. It just felt like you were there. It just came to life. And as you've said, if you want to have a listen to it, if you've not listened to it, it is there for you on the BBC Sounds app. And I really would. I do think this is one time where you do want to go back.

Even though you know the result, you know what's going to happen. It is well worth going back and listening to that again. Do you know what? On a similar theme, it just reminded me there, where I was staying last. Friday night when I was having breakfast the next morning. There was only me and another man in there. We got talking to each other and he was a Crystal Palace fan. So obviously during the course of the conversation,

it transpired that I'd done the commentary on the Cup final. And he said, do you know what I did? And this was a guy called Paul, Crystal Palace fan. He said, New Year's Eve, because 2025 had been the year of Crystal Palace winning the FA Cup final, he said, I went back, he said, I got the pictures. I synced it up to the Five Live commentary. I think he did it at the same time.

So the commentaries on the YouTube pictures, synced it up to the pictures and watched the whole thing with our commentary on New Year's Eve as a way of seeing the old year out. I thought you were going to say then it was the Year of the Eagle. Well, in many ways it possibly was. In their eyes, it was the Year of the Eagle.

This year is the Year of the Horse. Is it? Do you know whose nickname is the Horse? horse, which Premier League and England footballers nickname is the horse? May. Declan Rice.

There is something equine about. There's one to remember. That joke was quite over everybody's head there. No, I think we did get it. We just found it wasn't funny. Right, let's get on to the correspondence. First message this week comes from John in Belfast. I'm not going to do the

accent. Dear Jens, I recently discovered the podcast after it was mentioned on a football commentary. I must say the blend of football chat, travel stories and conversations around the linguistic challenges involved in translating visual to audio are thoroughly fascinating. I really enjoy listening to experts who clearly love what they do. That's very kind, John. Thank you. Through the pod, I've discovered that I have a tribe of those who prefer listening to games whilst being active as opposed to sitting idly to watch on TV. As a recent convert to the parish, I naturally have delved into the back catalogue.

And on today's commute hit your first ever episode from November 2024. When previewing your upcoming fixtures, ABB mentioned he would be commentating on Ruben Amarim's first game in charge of Manchester United, which was an away trip at Ipswich Town. Therefore, I just wanted to pass on my congratulations on outlasting the latest manager coach at Old Trafford. As that particular ship continues to falter, the pod is clearly going from strength to strength. I look forward to seeing how the pod moved up through these ranks over time. Ah, these ranks, right.

So John's given us a table of Manchester United managers arranged by length of tenure. So let's have a look at this. So well, Michael Carrick 10 days. Rube Van Nistroy, 13 days. So let's go down the list a bit to find... Where's Ruben Amarin gone there? One year, two months. So our next one, guys, is Wilf McGuinness.

One year, four months. Franco Farrell, one year, six months. months, Louis Van Hal one year, 10 months. But I don't think we'll be measuring the success of this podcast by that, will we? If we do, can I make a prediction that we certainly won't challenge either Matt Busby or Sir Alex Ferguson? I think you're right there, Ian. I think you're right.

New managers chaps, just quickly on that one. So Michael Carrick in as the interim and Liam Rossini. Now, I've seen a Liam Resinia game. John, you've seen a Liam Rossinia game because he's already had two. What do we, you know, general thoughts on appointments and what's coming? Well, it's a huge opportunity, I would say, first of all, for Liam Rossignia. And if he makes a success of this, then, you know, well played to him. And if he makes a success of this, then, you know, that is his career now going off in a completely different path.

You know, he's reached another level, if that's the case. I think he's got a job on his hands, I must say, having been there the other night, and also the excellent CFC UK fanzine, which I regularly read, you know, there is a real problem there between the longer serving Chelsea fans and the current ownership. I mean, the front page of that, I've got it in front of me here, there's a picture of the Chelsea leadership, and on the front page of the Chelsea fanzine,

it says, sorry, but it just ain't working in terms of the way that they run the club. So there's a real issue there. I find that is going to be very difficult to get over. so he's got to deal with that and first and foremost he's got to deal with a massive squad finding the right blend players who might well be unhappy

and you know that might be something at that level that he's not experienced before and he has to win and you know for all that there were positives for him to take out of the first leg against Arsenal and he did look for them after the match they lost they lost at home to Arsenal and he has to get results from the

So so far, yeah, it's the win at Charlton that I saw where he took a slight risk with the team selection because he made eight changes and effectively played the Cup team in his first game in charge. But Chelsea were too good for Charlton, deserve to win that game and win it comfortably. Pat and Evan actually made the point during that game that, it's very early days, but that the style of football under Liam Rossinia will not be that different to what it was under Enzo Morreska in terms of the way that Chelsea will play and set up. This weekend, Saturday 3 o'clock, you can listen to the game actually. on Radio 5 Sports Extra is Chelsea Brentford. So that's quite interesting, Ian, isn't it? In terms of one game against Charlton, you'd obviously expect Chelsea to win.

Arsenal would have started as favourites, wouldn't they? Obviously the way they're playing this season. But now a home game against Brentford, I mean, it's silly to say a bit of pressure on that, but he needs to start well. At Brentford's side, they're going extremely well under Keith Andrews as well, but you're right, the expectation levels are something

that he's going to have to deal with at Stamford Bridge, because they will be expected to win that game without a doubt. And as for Michael Carrick, and I said this on Five Live Sport during the week as well when it was announced, I think Oligona Solskia, who was also in the running,

would have been seen as a backward step because they've already been there, they've already tried that. And I was saying that effectively, I think this is a five-month audition for Michael Carrick. I think it's an astute move to bring in Steve Holland, somebody that we know quite well, don't we, John, from his days with England?

We obviously know Jonathan was a little. or even better. Yeah. You know, for Jonathan Woodgate as well. I always knew wherever Michael Carrick was going to go

and I think he's been on the radar and might well still be on the radar I know for a fact of two clubs, two other clubs in the Premier League, wherever he would have gone, I know that Jonathan Woodgate would have gone with him because they compliment each other

so well from their time at Middlesbrough. And I just think that he's got an opportunity now to sort of like lay his stall out and whether they still go for an elite manager in the summer, which, you know, I still wouldn't be surprised if it was Thomas Tuchel. You know, if you ask me who should be the next Manchester United manager, or at the time, I would have put my money on Thomas Tuchel. And I still haven't deviated away from that. However, in saying that, Michael Carrick in the next five months has got an opportunity to say to the

hierarchy, this is what I can do. And if he can achieve Champions League football, then he puts himself in the shot window, doesn't he? There are lots of indicators. aren't there, that at some stage, Thomas Tuka will be the manager of Manchester United. But whether it's now, and I mean in 2026, you know, I think there are a lot of potential complications there. And I'm with you, Ian, for Michael Carrick. He has now put himself to be the man in possession, hasn't he? Very much so, yeah. And I've got to say, as well, I've met him a couple of times.

When I interviewed him for England, and I've seen him a couple of times at awards dinner, in the northeast. He can be quite shy and reserved, but I don't think you should take that as a weakness. I think that he will look to treat this opportunity and he will seize it with both hands. And I wish him the very best of luck as well. He's a nice fella.

It won't surprise you to learn, Ian, because you play fantasy football, that Jonathan Woodgay has immediately deleted his fantasy football team. So there can't be any nonsense around. He's got the real thing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I didn't know he'd done that, but we were to work with each other next week,

and I know that he's pulled out of that as well for obvious reasons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but you always see these stories occasionally, don't you, a couple of times a season, where some member of a club's coaching staff has picked someone in a fantasy football team that leads fantasy football managers to realize who's injured, who's not injured. The only thing you can do if you're a coach or about is just get rid and get out. So that's what he's done.

So the Manchester Derby, so in terms of Michael Carrick and Jonathan Wood, Gate and Co-in at Manchester United. That is the first Premier League game in this round of fixtures this weekend. Five Live sport with Mark Chapman on air from Midday, as usual, on Saturday on Five Live and BBC Sounds. So we'll have updates to the Manchester Derby. Ian, you're at Tottenham West Ham alongside Stephen Warnock, and I've seen that one rather naughtily, cheekily referred to on social media as El Sackico, because both managers are under the spotlight.

But that's an interesting game, that one. That is some game for a Saturday 3 o'clock yet, isn't it? It is. The TV companies must be wondering, how have we missed out on this one? Well, there are so many parallels between the two, you know, the various issues that the clubs are facing, the discontent among the respective fan bases. But also, I think the fact that both managers have been backed already in the transfer market, and they've both made additions to their coaching staff, which when you look at it like that,

you're thinking, well, the boards are backing the managers at this stage. So maybe the reference else Sakiko might not necessarily be the case. They spent around about 50 million pounds West Ham, haven't they? Yeah, they have. And I know we say it all of the time. But surely having made such a dramatic change to the personnel, the manager has to have some opportunity to see if he can get the best out. of them. Yeah. I mean, the key question to that is, are the signings, the manager's signings,

and is the addition of, it's Paco Hemez, who's come in to help out Nuno Espirito Santo, and John Hightinger has been added to the coaching staff of Thomas Frank? You know, are they with the manager's wishes for both the signings that they've brought in and also the additions to the coaching staff? If they are, then that is a, that is the reinforcement that the hierarchy say, no, we want you to see this through. Coaching staff would have to be the say-saw of the manager. You would think so, wouldn't you? Yeah.

Yeah. So Tottenham, West Ham. Ian is there Saturday 3 o'clock. Chelsea Brentford on Sports Extra. John is at the city ground for Nottingham Forest against the leader's Arsenal, alongside Pat Nevin. Sunday 2 o'clock. So 5 Lives Premier League Sunday has two commentaries for you.

Sunday 2 o'clock, I'm at Molyneux alongside Clinton-Morrison for Wolves against, Newcastle, Woolf's currently unbeaten in four in all competitions. And at 4.30 we've got Aston Villa against Everton, which is Connematnamara and Dion Dublin. So plenty for you to listen to over the weekend. And then next week, into the penultimate round of fixtures in the league phase of the Champions League. And John, the much anticipated trip to the Arctic Circle is almost upon you.

Yes, and you've already sent me a very detailed man. of the Bodo area. You will be in your element, John. It's so fun, I think, to go to places, A, where you've not been before, but where you've got different things. So often in Champions League football, you will sit in the same stadiums

with the same views, watching the same teams. This is very different. It'll be good fun. Also, another artificial pitch, like McElshield, so two in a few weeks. And am I right in saying that specialist equipment

has been purchased by our engineer, Rob Dybul, to make sure that it all goes without a hitch seemingly as you two know I'm not a massive fan of artificial heating aids for commentators so I'll be giving them short shrift however however yes they yeah yeah there's some pad isn't there that's going to go underneath the apparently apparently yeah by the way Pat Nevin is now on the old electric gloves heated gloves I mean Pat Nevin yeah Yeah. Well, Tanya, our engineer at Stanford Bridge through the night,

was telling a bit about the heated socks. I mean, as I said to Tanya, I don't think it's good for you. Having your feet warmed up when the rest of your body's freezing cold? I don't think I would wear a piece of clothing that needs to be plugged in. Me, neither. No, that's not for me. Yeah. You bought a new coat, though, haven't you, John? Is that true? Have that? Have you not? Have you not? No. Oh, you're not? No. Okay. Gary's bought the new coat, apparently.

Okay. Oh, right. Okay. I see now. Can I ask how many flight connections do you have to make to get to Bodo, too? Because with your track record, I would be worried about that. Yeah. That would be a blow, wouldn't it, if you bought a new court for the trip and it never made it.

Well, I'm sure that you'd be wearing the coat rather than sticking it in your luggage. No, I always put the coat in my bag. Because it's too bulky to carry on the plane. Because it's never, yeah, you never need it on the plane. Oh, you might regret. at doing that. Yeah. The locals, John, I think I remember,

it call it Buddha. I know you'll call it Bodo Glimt, and we call it Bodo Glimt. I think it's Buda, because when you hear them chant inside the stadium, it's Buda-Glimb't, I think. So how do you pronounce an Owe with a line through it,

which is the second Owe of Bodo or Buda. Well, I think that's what they say. Anyway, Champions League next week, 545, Tuesday, Arctic Circle. You've got Chris Sutton for company as well. Oh, you'll love it over there. That's Boodoo-Glimt. That is.

he will be in his element. He will. That's going to be a great list of that. I'm not sure if he's there in time for the hike around the snow-covered hills. Well, you won't have many daylight hours, would you, John? No. We won't. No. No. No. And then we've got Tottenham, Dortmund, on Tuesday night at 8 o'clock. That's me and Paul Robinson. And then Ian is at Newcastle PSV? Ian, because I'm doing Newcastle on Sunday, I was just looking at PSV domestically.

they are flying. 12 wins in a row, top of the league by a distance, and Champions League not quite as good, but hammered Napoli and won at Liverpool. Well, thank you for that, because I actually haven't started my prep for that game until next week,

so I'll take that on board. Okay. Yeah, that's going to be a good one Wednesday night. So that's Ian at Newcastle, and then we'll have updates on Marseille against Liverpool. Right, let's move on to our regular business. Unintended pub names to begin with. Clash of the commentators on the way.

Last week, in terms of our boozers, we had the luckless Pope, the dangerous head and the in behind. We also had Cole Palmer in space as an unintended film name from sports commentary. Keep those coming in as well. We'll start with Sheffield United fan, John. Hi guys, long-time listener, but first-time e-mailer. My two nominations are actually linked by one goal, the commentary by Ian Dennis at Craven Cottage, which saw Harrison Reed score a late equalizer for Fulham against Liverpool.

Paul. Fuller with Reid from Long Range! At the time, Ian described the goal as an absolute belter and then a few minutes later in doing a quick summary at full time described the same goal as an absolute corker. The absolute belter would be a classic old school nightclub. Think Josephine's in Sheffield, late 80s, early 90s, quidder, sticky floor and Chris Wilder dancing with a cardboard cutout of Bob Booker

to celebrate the Blade's 1990 promotion. You can imagine the conversations, where did you go last night? We had a great night in the absolute belter. But then the absolute corker, which is the sister wine bar, but you won't find your common or garden, Aussie Chardonnay here, says, says John.

Is it John? Ian. John, it's John. You're Ian. And then the absolute corker, the sister wine bar, but you won't find your common or gardener, Aussie Chardonnay here.

This is artisan left field. I'm thinking Croatian white wine and Tanzanian red wine in the absolute corker with artisan bread and shakouk. neutery nibbles as bar snacks. Keep up the great work. I thoroughly enjoy listening. I've recommended the pod

to a lot of fellow football fans, I know. And John, I know you really enjoy people taking it on, don't you? Not only the name of the pub, but the description of the establishment. Yeah. It would be the absolute corker for me. It would be the absolute belter for Ian.

It would depend. I think I would start in the corker and end in the belter. Yeah. I'd just stay in the belter. Yeah, you would. Mind you, you can't blame you if it. is a pound of pint.

No, there is that. And Paul in quotes, sunny Adelaide in South Australia. Hello Adelaide says, I'm pretty sure this one hasn't been suggested yet and it's used in just about every game, every week. The Final Whistle or the Full Time Whistle. I imagine it would be a local boozer

where fans go either to celebrate their teams win or drown their sorrows after being robbed by VAR. Also, ABB was clearly biased towards the FPL Pod's Sutton and Statman Dave during the end of year quiz. He needs to be subbed off all the best, Paul. You bang on, Paul. Happy New Year to you. What I love about all the correspondence on that front is our loyal listeners are really disappointed that you two lost that quiz. You've got some big fans out there.

I think me less so now. But it's good to feel the love, I think. Yes. Well, he hasn't forgotten it either. I saw Chris Sutton in midweek with Hare Chapman. Oh, dear. It was rather unnerving because they were both complimenting me on my sweater. And Chris Sutton said, where do you get that from?

So I told him where I got it from. And then Hare Chapman said, you look like Oliver Glasner. It's a cable net, is it? It is, yeah. Is it? Very good. Anyway, Chris hasn't forgotten. He's still crowing.

Which jumper is that, by the way? Is it a roll neck? It is a roll neck, yeah. Is it new? No, I've had it for a while. Okay. Have I seen it? I don't know.

It can't be better than Oliver Klasnas. That is the best piece of managerial guard. You might want to take one to Buddha. Yeah, I might say even get one there. Yeah. You're not having mine. No, well, it wouldn't fit. John in London has got in touch.

TCV at BBC.com.com. I walk my dogs, Aero and Honey, in the local park while listening to the pod on a Saturday morning and dodging park runners. Further to your feature on unintended pub and fill names, may I be so bold as to introduce yet another category, unintended railway stations. As a long-standing Liverpool fan, back in Stephen Gerard's heyday, the commentators would often mention the words Gerard's cross,

as yet another excellent ball found the head or feet of one of the strikers. Gerard's cross is the name of a station in Buckinghamshire. I wonder if there are any other similar examples around. the country. So we're now on to Pub names, film names, railway stations. So if you have some suggestions, send them in TCV at BBC.co.com.

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I am not involved today, thankfully, in playing this game. This is our game. Two of us taking turns to answer a question. and they try to give as many correct answers as they can in 30 seconds. League table as it stands, 80% win rate. I mean, that is better than any Manchester United manager. Ian Dennis, top of the table, 8 from 10.

Congratulations on that so far. Trailing significantly, John and I are both 4 from 11. Although in this league table, John, I'm above you. I presume that's alphabetical. It has to be, doesn't it, really? Plus your status is the holders. like Crystal Palace were in the FAC Cup. But, well, that's true.

But today, John, you have the chance to lift yourself above me because you are up against Mr. 80% Ian Dennis in Clash of the Commentators. I would say to you both, lateral thinking caps on. Left field from our producer today. Left field. Who would like to go first? Well, I went first last week. No, sorry, I went second last week, so shall I go first?

first. Okay. Unplugged, Denno. He's done. Right, here we go. I don't know how good Deno is at lip reading. I always walk away from the screen. Does he watch? No, he's going to carry on with other business. Should I put my hand over my mouth like football, as dear? That would be good.

I'll tell you, just on that, by the way. You will see more of this than I do, but isn't it? Ian's on the phone. He's on the phone, but he's not turned his mic off. Disrespectful. He has, man. You'll know more about this than me with, you know, the sort of, kids football that you see.

How funny is it when they do that? The kids. The kids do it. Yeah. Who are they thinking? It's going to be liberating them. I know. I hope that's not Ian taking a call from Nathan with the answers to this question.

It might be from, might be statman Dave. Ring them with the answer. Ah, now then. Dave has actually sent me his WhatsApp chat during the hours that Ian's accused him of sending answers to Chris Sutton to prove that he wasn't doing that. That's how far this is going. Anyway, let's get on with Clash of the commentators.

We've already discussed this in the pod today. Tuesday night's VAR delay in the Newcastle-Manchester City match for Semeno's disallowed goal was five minutes and 40 seconds, which was the third longest delay since the technology was brought in. Today, I want you to shout out anything you can do in the space of five minutes and 40 seconds. It could be anything at all. We just need a different verb for each action. That's why this is left field, John. Do you know what you've got to do?

here. Okay. I can't give you any more than that. So this is anything you can do in less than five minutes and 40 seconds. Different verb for each action. So once you've used a verb, that's gone. You can't use the same verb again. Your time starts now. Okay, clean the car, brush your teeth, walk the dog, go on a very short hike, eat an ice cream, scrape ice off the car window make a sandwich consumer sandwich open a packet of crisps

and then munch them eat out now listen producer knows he's going to have to help me with this I'm not getting this in the neck this week for ruling out certain answers of what's allowed and what isn't allowed clean the car.

I mean, are you getting that done in under five minutes and 40 seconds? Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that is a quick clean. Don't waste any time doing that. Brush teeth, I'll accept. Dog walk, that's a tiny dog walk, John. It's a tiny dog walk, but might have a tiny dog.

This is up to Nathan. Short hike. Ice cream, definitely good. Ice off the car window, I think, good. You then had maker sandwich and consumer sandwich, which was cynical gameplay, but absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. And open a beggar Chris.

So Nathan will tell me how many you've got right. I'm going to leave that for now. I'm not taking the blame. I'm not having it. I'm not having it. Right, let's give Ian the thumbs up. He's finished his phone call. How do you think he's going to do on this one?

I think this might flummox him. Blimey, how long was that? I know. I know. I thought you'd just continue the pod without me for a minute. I've been away that long. Just you wait, Henry Higgins. Right, Ian, Tuesday night's VAR delay.

You were there at St. James's Park in the Newcastle, Manchester City match for Semenio's disallowed goal, five minutes and 40 seconds. Today's category, you need to shout out anything you can do in the space of five minutes and 40 seconds. Anything. Any activity.

Anything you can do in the space of five minutes and 40 seconds. Keep it clean. Could be anything at all. But once you've used a verb... So we're looking at verbs here, really, but you can't use the same verb twice. But any activity you can do in the space of five minutes and 40 seconds, A bit of lateral thinking required here.

John's come up with some good answers. This isn't football related. I knew you'd have an issue with this. Just get on with it. Just get on with it. Your time starts now. Well, you can cook. You can walk.

You can run. You can have sex. You can drink. You can eat. You can go to the toilet. You can drive your car. You can go to the show. shop, watch TV.

Okay, root one in, very root one from you. I mean, classic just went straight verbs. John went with a little bit more description, like taking the dog for a walk and cleaning the frost off the car window. You've literally just gone cook, walk, run, eat. Can I just say, before the scores are in, that is the worst topic yet. Well, hang in a minute, you might win yet.

I don't care. Okay, okay. Your feelings have been made clear. let me just bring up the scores. Drum roll please, right. All the correct answers are in bold. So John wasn't allowed to consume or munch because you already had eat.

There's two different. It's a different word, but it's the same action. Well, listen, don't take it up with me. That goes to Nathan. That's not right, that. John, you had seven correct answers. Ian has been allowed. Cook, walk, run, have drink, eat,

go to toilet, not been allowed go to shop, been allowed watch TV, drive was allowed, which takes Ian's score to eight. Oh, hang on a minute. And Ian gets the win. That's not right. I don't wish to be funny, John, but I agree with you that still my grievances about the topic stand. However, eat, consume munch. Yeah. Different. Different answer. Ian wins 8-7. John and I are still on 4 from 11. Ian's 9 from 11. That's highly debatable.

And that, without question, will provoke a reaction. Yeah. T-CV at BBC.coma. UK. And I have a strong feeling we're going to be revisiting that next week. Okay. Right. Are you suggesting we need a VAR? Yeah.

A VAR-based topic. I think we need a seven-day VAR check on that one. Okay. We're still waiting for the two-week via. I'll check for the Christmas quiz. Still not let it go. Right, let's move on to the glossary. You chaps are going to enjoy the glossary today.

We've had some great emails. Remember, you can find the entire glossary in the episode description because there are still some in that episode description that still need be placed in Division 1 or Division 2. So go and have a look at that. So Division 1 is football exclusive terms, Division 2, terms used in football commentary, but also used in other sports. First one is a voice note.

Last time out, we agreed to keep blaze over the bar in Division I, despite pressure from Ozzy, Kane in Belgium to demote it to Division 2. Well, this time, on this one, Fran in Canada's got in touch. Hello, the commentator's view. This is Fran all the way from Vancouver in Canada. Irish lad living over here. Love the podcast, lads. Been listening to it since day one.

by accident I won't lie because you came up on my football daily feed and I had nothing else to listen to and I was like ah this would have to do and I've been in love with it ever since one thing I will say though for the glossary that blazed over the bar I'm pretty sure that's been used loads in GAA

the old Gaelic football and hurling they blaze it over the bar for a point like honest of God if I heard that saying my whole life that has to be a div too because no one way that can be div one. You know, you're completely disregarding the Irish people now, which is an absolute terrible thing to be doing. We blazing over the bar of points, left, right and centre. Anyway, lads, how about all as well? Happy New Year and all that fun stuff.

That's our accidental listener, Fran. I mean, where's Connor MacNamara when you need him? Well, where is Connor? Yeah. That was great from Fran, wasn't it? There is obviously the chance we could go to Vancouver, isn't there, in the World Cup? That's a convincing case, though, by Fran. It is a very convincing case. Yeah, div too. It's got a bit relegation. We can't disregard, as Fran says, all of the people of Ireland.

No, no. So that's a relegation for Blaze Over the Bar into Division 2. What's next? Well, last week we also added Barbra's turns on a six-pence into Division 2. But this week, Bob in Enfield writes in, Dear TCV crew, he says, without wishing to extend the remit of your excellent podcast into the realm of international politics,

I thought you'd like to know about an unlikely use in the newscast pod on BBC Sounds from the eminent guest Sir Lawrence Friedman, emeritus professor of war studies at King's College London. The difficulty, and we have many with Trump, He's sort of an unreliable commentator on his own administration, is you're never quite sure what's going to happen next with him because he turns on a six-pence with on a particular issue.

One day he's crossed with Zelensky, the next day he's cross with Putin, is saying, to take the example of Venezuela. Bob says, although it's very difficult to imagine the US president performing such a manoeuvre on the football page, I feel the professor's eloquent use of the phrase in his, analysis, serves only to confirm its status in Division 2 of the Glossary. P.S., with the F.A. Cup third round taking place, as I write, I feel that it would be a good time to move my glossary submission, we've got a cup tie on our hands, into Division

2 from its current, rather sad, unsorted status. So there we are. Thank you, Bob. I wasn't expecting when we discussed the use of turns on a sixpence last week that Donald J. Trump would come into the reckoning. Yeah, but that's, that is a great contribution. So that definitely drops into div two. And cup tie on our hands also obviously has to be in div two because there's plenty of other sports where you'll have a game on your hands or a cup tie on your hands.

Anyway, last week's additions to Division I were back to square one. We had a good discussion on that, cultured left foot, in behind, park the bus, and Roy of the Rover's stuff, John. And I know you're kicking yourself, having been at the Moss Rose, that you didn't. use Roy of the Rovers. It occurred to me, I think, on either Sunday or Monday, having had the discussion on the

Friday about the phrase Roy of the Rover stuff, I then saw one of the greatest examples of Roy of the Rover stuff and didn't use it. That is a glaring mistake. But how many times does that happen to you two where you're driving away from a game and you're sort of like going back through things in your mind and you go, oh, I should have said that, or I forgot to say this. It happens all the time, doesn't it? I have a great appreciation of listening to other commentators live coming up with,

not necessarily Roy of the Rover stuff, but brilliant phrases right when it happens. That's a really difficult thing to do. And it's so easy, isn't it, afterwards to go, yeah, could have said that, could have said that, could have said that. But I think when people do come up with the, you know, like, I mean, we keep talking about it this season, but you're rice, rice, rice baby. you know the Bon Mo at the right time perfectly timed it's when they happen and you hear them they are they are you know I love them I love them do you find that I think probably like any job I find I have days when I feel I'm on form behind the microphone as in words are coming the vocabulary is there and I can find the right words to describe it there's other days when I'm off form and I just I just keep feeling I'm saying the same thing or can't find the right words or I'm two seconds behind the action do you do you do Do you have that?

Yes, absolutely. Yeah, quite a lot, actually. Good. I'm glad. I'm glad I'm not the only one. And also, we should say there was claret, John, in the game, wasn't there? Because Paul Dawson, because we were talking about claret on the shirt last week and the claret shirts, et cetera, et cetera. But also, in terms of the name, you know, well, Paul Dawson, because he featured so heavily in that cup tie,

it is a name now that will go down, won't it, in, you know, in years to come. where we talk about the likes of Ronnie Radford and Roy Essendow and, you know, it's going to be one of those FA Cup names, I think, isn't it? It was, that was superb. And back at Borough on X. Baker, Ali.

Baker. Baker. How do you know that? It's Baker. It is. That's... Yeah. Okay.

And Bake up Burr on X. Whether it's the blazing sunshine of the Marraken R or the freezing temperatures of Macklesfield, John Murray never loses his passion for the sport. The one thing that I should mention here is, and the one thing that will niggle me always, even though I've got so many great memories and already from last weekend, is the niggle that you will also recognise. And if there's any place to mention it, it's here on this podcast, the commentator's view, because I got the name wrong of the winning goal scorer during the

commentary. Richard can't get it away. Could bounce anywhere at this inside the area. Meller goes down. Referey waves her away. Still in the area Mala gets up, shoots, comes out to the edge of the box, left foot and shot, deflected Mala. Oh, it's right there. It was a strange one, because we actually had a great view where we were. It was a really good commentary position at McElwield.

And it was also at our end as well. And also, I had a clear view of the winner goal scorer, Isaac Buckley Ricketts. He was wearing seven. I saw seven, but I called the name of the number nine. And in the immediate aftermath, you know, I actually didn't realize. It's just the name came out, the name came out.

And it was Paul Robinson who did clock it. And Paul said immediately, you know, Buckley Ricketts, and I'm like, it was like, I was thinking, how did I get that wrong? I saw the number. You know, very often when you get the goal scorer wrong, which of course is one of the things that as a commentator you do not want to do, that, you know, very often when that happens, you can't see and you haven't seen and you haven't seen. not sure and you call the wrong goal score. This one, I don't know how I came out with the wrong name.

But it was a one of those, it was if you've seen the goals, it's a real ratatat isn't it? It rattles around the box. And then a very strange goal as well, because Buckley Rickett stretches out his leg, it hits his heel, goes at a crazy deflection past Benitez into the back of the net. And it was also a great goal from that point of view

because it was one way. You can actually still say something as the ball's heading in, because it's not going in. Is it going in? It's going in. So there is that little niggle about not getting the correct name for the winning goal scorer in a match like that. We've all been there definitely, John, but I have to say, I mean, Ian and I both listened to it. I don't know about you, Ian, but I, A, I didn't even notice that at the time. I didn't. No. That's interesting.

Yeah, didn't notice it. But in terms of that description of the goal, John, what was so brilliant about the description of that goal was, it was one of those where I watched the goal later. exactly as I'd imagine it, as in they, you know, the ball, they couldn't get the ball clear. And you're thinking, this is getting close to goal, but is this going to go over the line? And you could almost feel that ball making its way towards the net, as you described there. I think maybe, you know, probably didn't pick up on that because obviously for many people, McElwiel's players are unfamiliar names. And so therefore one name could easily be another name. And also, I was trying to work out how it was that I did that.

As I often say it on here, it's incredible in this job how even though we've done it now all of us for such a long time, things happen to you on such a regular basis that have never happened to you before and that was one of them. And I was trying to think, they are a very good team to commentate on Macclesfield because they're very distinctive.

They've got a lot of players who look very differently. And that's exactly what you want from a match like that when you're covering what is an unfamiliar team. And I think maybe I was lulled in by thinking, you know, they were as good to commentate on as I thought. But anyway, but that niggle also reflects the high standards that you set. During the course of the match, I'm having to say to myself, move on, forget about it. And I am, one thing I would say is I am quite good at that.

you make a mistake and it's a bit like cricket I think as a batsman you know it's gone you know the ball's gone you've played the shot whether it's a good shot bad shot you've played it it's gone

and the other thing I would say as well is you know obviously the goals and the sendings off and the moments of drama are the moments to get replayed as the clips the little bits but for me what I loved about that commentary on Saturday and all the football commentaries I listened to on the radio is I'm listening to the whole piece.

I want to be transported to the stadium and I'm there for 90 minutes, two hours. And if there's a scrappy goal and the goal score isn't quite right or whatever, that doesn't bother me at all. I mean, obviously you want to get the score right and who's winning and losing and all that. But it's the whole piece for me.

That's what I think. I should say here, if you want tickets to either the men's or women's FA Cup finals in May, Radio One is giving you the chance to win them. Tune into Radio One's weekend breakfast on BBC Sounds from 7 o'clock on Saturday morning to find out more. Entries close at 815 on the morning of Sunday the 18th.

For the full T's and Cs, just search Radio 1 on socials and follow the link in their bio. And I'm pleased we've mentioned that as well because I know Radio 1's Greg James gave the commentary a nice mention earlier on this week as well. So I'm always happy to do a bit of cross-promotion. I mean, there are various other sporting prizes they're giving away as well over the course of January.

And on Macclesfield, Joseph Rubin and Lottie from Palmer's Green have sent as a voice note. Dear Ali John and Ian, after that spectacular third round FA Cup weekend, two phrases spring to mind, similar to Paul Dawson's header. So, introduced by one familiar voice. And into Div 1, I suspect, or I hope, is... Magic of the FA Cup. Thank you, Ruin. That's magic of the FA Cup. and then to Div 2, introduced by Lottie. Giant.

Giant killing. That's giant killing. What I would also like to mention is after Hawk Chapman never forgets to miss a beat, is I was wondering what your thoughts were of him introducing the halftime analysis with his hood up. The second is my concern for Glenn Murray and his shaking hand. get that man some gloves very nice to hear from Joseph Rubin and Lottie again let's deal with those

one by one so magic of the FA Cup that has to be div one because the FAA Cup is a football competition giant killing though could happen or as Lottie said giant killing yes yes

that has to be dip two yeah that has to be div two doesn't it because you can have giant killing in other sports Mark check me with his hood up? Did he have his hood up? Did he? Didn't see that because I was listening to the radio. Well, he did say to me in the aftermath of Macclesfield. He was disappointed. I didn't go and say hello to him. To which I said, well, I'm disappointed you didn't come and say hello to us. Good point. Did you see his recent appearance on Would I Lie to You?

I did not. Yeah, that's very good. Catch it. Catch it on the BBC iPlay. Bob Mortimer is on the show, which always makes for a very good Would I Lie to You. And Glenn Murray, yes, I saw a few people mentioning Glenn Murray didn't seem have quite the level of clothing on required for the temperatures. He doesn't do the cold very well, does he, your brother? You know, it was actually much colder at Derby

on Sunday for me than it was on Saturday at Macclesfield. The difference being, at Derby, we actually had spare seats next to us, so I had a gap in the seat between me and Gary the producer and me and Curtis Davis. And as

As soon as there's a gap, the wind gets in. Georgian Clapham, high team, can I offer the draft excluder as a potential Division I glossary term? Weirdly, as I'm writing this, it's just been used on Five Live by Michael Brown alongside Chris Coles. And this is an opportunity for Burnley, having been 1-0 up and 2-1-down to go 3-2 up. The left foot from Edwards is straight at the wall, Michael,

and in the end, much ado about very little. Yeah, he earned it. Great feet on the edge of the area. There's a few challenges. A referee let go. It's looking there. Cuneo is the sort of the draft excluder wait and then Casamero jumps well, blocks it.

George continues. Maybe the draft excluder might be used in sailing or another windy aerodynamic sport but it doesn't seem likely. I can't imagine any human being willing to lie down during a hockey match either. On a personal note, I find the spectacle of someone lying on the floor

during a free kick really amateurish and irritating. What do you think? And from working in and around football is it effective or just a trend that will die out eventually. Just realised, as I type this, it's also an unintended pub name.

I suppose the draft excluder could be in the Guinness World Record Books as the cosiest pub ever in some Nordic country where everything is triple glazed and airtight, although if there's no draft, I suppose it might have to be a wine or cocktail bar. I'll tell you if I see the draft excluder in Bodo next week.

George also says, Blimey, George, George has gone on a bit here. Because I can't send an email without a cricket reference, I just wanted to mention a favourite intended pub name near me in Kennington near the Oval, the doghouse. I chuckle every time at the prospect of someone saying they're in the dog house, probably for bunking off to watch. Sorry, I do like an in the dog house.

They're in the dog house. I think I've heard of that pub before. Right. Although I've not been there. We've already heard from Paul in Adelaide, but this one is from John in Adelaide. Hello, Adelaide again. We're big in Adelaide, don't we?

Thanks for the great podcast, says John. I've been a regular listener since the start. Another one. And I always appreciate your calming influence and connection to my distant home on a sunny Saturday morning here in Adelaide, Australia. A couple of suggestions for the great glossary of football commentary. Both skills intimately linked to iconic players. The Elastico, perfected by the great Ronaldinho,

and the Trevella. forever linked to Ricardo Koresma. Surely these are both division one terms, question mark, from John in Adelaide. I wouldn't have heard them in another sport. I mean, if you're an Ipswich fan, Travelli, you'd go Wes Burns. Goal of the season in the championship. A couple of seasons ago with the outside of the right foot of Paul Monroe,

which was an absolute cracker. But yeah, and Chris Sutton always has a great laugh about the story I tell of my time playing football in a town square in Perugia once. And there was this very, very good Algerian chap who joined our game and dib me with an elastico. And Chris found that absolutely hilarious. Because I promise you, it was a proper elastico. I'd never seen.

I'd never been on the receiving end of an elastico before. But literally, the ball went one way and then the other. Because Sean has got in touch and says on the elastico, the elastico is Spanish for elastic and gives the impression of a player controlling the ball using elastic. Oh, he says there's also El Sombrero, which is a skill where a player flicks the ball up and over their head and is literally nicknamed the hat.

There we go then. used the sombrero before. Yeah, and the travella, which I have to say is not a phrase that I would be likely to use personally, that was also suggested to us by 15-year-old Herb in Sheffield. So, thanks very much to you, Herb. And it is, Ali, a Trevella? So Trevella's outside of your foot, and actually thinking about this, there are lots of players who love to use the... I mean, Modrich, I think, is a great example of constantly passing the... the ball, you know, with that vicious sort of curl on it. So rather than using your left foot, you hit the outside of your right foot to hit a similar, a similar pass.

Don't you sort of cut it across the ball? And Sala, of course, as well, which I love it when he does this, is that cross from the right with the outside of his left foot. Yeah. And are they not suggesting that the Trevella is a goal scored like that rather than a cross? Maybe. You could say a Travella pass, couldn't you? Could you, though? I don't know.

Does a Travella have to be a goal? That's a really good point. Not that I would say it anyway, as I've already made clear. Yeah, that's a good point. And the final one for now, and it comes from the voice notes. Hello, all. Bram's family's here. While walking home from the gym today, thinking about Derby County,

and wondering how our striker Carl Morris was progressing with his injury, I caught myself pondering when will he be back on the grass? Is the term back on the grass in your glossary? Maybe it's only div two, thinking of, rugby and horse racing, but it crops up a lot in managerial interviews and lets us know that a player's return won't be too far away. What are your thoughts? Love the pod, Liz. P.S. enjoyed John's cameo appearance on Radio Derby on Sunday. I'm pleased that you heard that, Liz. And I did enjoy a trip back to Pride Park.

And also, do you remember where we always used to park at Pride Park, which was in the car park on the top beyond the stadium? Where the new arena is there now, the sort of indoor arena. Yeah. So I was driving down there thinking, you know, I was heading to that car park. And then I looked, and immediately in front of the main entrance to Pride Park, I looked and I thought, this is the West Car Park. So that's where we were.

turned in. I turned in like I was the manager. And I'd wand the window down. I said, is this the worst car park? And he said, yes. And my name was on the list. And we now get parked. I felt like royalty. I was parked the car right outside the entrance at Pride Parks. I very much enjoyed that. It's like Pink Hare Chapman for the afternoon. Did you have your hood up? Back on the grass. is a great suggestion because you do hear that now all the time don't you what what do you think

of it though not much well if if we're to use it it'd have to be division two wouldn't it i don't like it have to say i bet crystal talus this week have enjoyed being back on the grass summary of the glossary div two going into div two we've had loads today blaze over the bar's been relegated into division two that was that was fran in canada got a cup tie on our hands in div two. Giant killing from Lottie is going into div 2 because you can get that in other sports, not just football, and back on the grass is in the

glossary, but it's in div 2. Div 1. Draft Excluder for now. I think we'll leave that up to our loyal listeners to decide. The Elastico, which is also known John as the flip flap, the travella, and the question there is, can you have a Travella pass? Can it only be a

Travella goal? So we'll need your contributions on that. And magic of the FA Cup has to go in and it's the perfect week to go in after macklesfield not crystal palace out of the f a f a cup so there we go keep the glossary suggestions coming in remember if you hear an unintended pub name in a commentary send it in to tcv at bbcccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc and the voice notes always welcome that's on whatsapp [phone] that is it for this episode of the commentators view on the next one john and ian are going to be joined by none other

than Jonathan Pierce. So get your questions in for him. There will be plenty of those. And remember, you can find each and every episode of the commentator's view by scrolling down your football daily feed. Five Live Sport is launching a TikTok account next Friday.

Our social team wants to know from us how we should launch the account so what Five Live Sports should do for their very first video on TikTok. Well, what they'll want us to do, I would imagine, would be to do a little choreographed dance together. Well, us three? Yeah. Not known for our dancing, are we?

Well, that's the point. Do you think what equipment would be involved in that? Almost certainly. Yeah. You could do now. So as we look at each other now on the screen, you could head the ball. From one. You know, so I get a ball now and I pretend to head it.

Then it drops to you on your left. You head it onto your right. Yeah. And then I nod it into the waste paper basket. No, then you head it, and we film Mark Chapman in goal, and it sort of horribly dribbles between his legs. I've got a better idea. Yeah.

Ali, why don't you do it with your favorites? Chris and Statman. Five live sports. NFL. Touchdown, Philadelphia. Great play design. I think you just have to go out there and be the best of you can be. We're going to go out there and lay it all in the line.

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