Football Daily - The Debrief: Ben White booed on England return
Episode Date: March 27, 2026Aaron Paul is joined by former England goalkeeper Paul Robinson, senior football reporter Ian Dennis and senior football correspondent Sami Mokbel as an uninspiring England drew 1-1 with Uruguay. Aft...er a sluggish night at Wembley and 11 changes to the starting team, the panel debrief on what Tuchel can take away from this game ahead of the World Cup. Hear the thoughts on Ben White’s return for England after ruling himself out of international selection for the last two years. Plus, debutants James Trafford and James Garner join the pod as well as the England manager, Thomas Tuchel. TIMECODES: 10’31 Ben White return 17’34 James Trafford 20’51 James Garner 24’16 Ugarte awarded two yellows? 26’43 Tuchel’s take aways from the game 30’11 Thomas Tuchel
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On the Football Daily podcast, the debrief with Aaron Paul.
Welcome to the Football Daily podcast coming to you from Wembley Stadium after England's one-all-drawer, with Uruguay in a World Cup warm-up friendly.
Paul Robinson in Dennis and Sammy Mockbelt
here with us, gentlemen,
and uninspiring 90 minutes.
I want to say we've learnt something tonight.
I don't know what we've learned,
but we've learnt something tonight, Sammy.
Yeah, I think we have learnt that perhaps
the fringe players aren't as good as Thomas Tuchel hopes
they may be,
and that the 11 or 12 or 13 that he's got
who will join up next week,
or actually with the squad now
remain the core of his
hopes of England winning the World Cup
in the summer.
I think anyone really took their chance today.
If I was to single one out,
Harry Maguire was pretty solid at the back.
It was the Harry McGuire-like performance,
the kind of ones that we've seen for the past decade.
So it's nothing that really grabs the attention.
But looking elsewhere on the problem,
pitch, particularly at the attacking talent, no one really took their chance.
Paul Robinson, you talked about it in the first half with Dominic Selangky.
He said that it's a shoot-on-sight sort of motive from him because it's the trial game.
It's the game to try and get on the plane.
And he fluffed his lines.
Did Dominic Cavaloon as well?
It's difficult in that situation.
I described it before the game and during the first half.
We're not looking at England as a collective tonight
as much as we will judge the performance,
the result and the performance as a team.
It wasn't a performance to be judged as a team.
It was for individuals.
And you got the impression watching that game
that individuals were trying too hard in certain situations.
Rather than being a collective unit
and playing as a cohesive team,
they looked like a bunch of trialists
trying to impress a manager to get through
to the next stage of the trial, if you like.
Dominic Solanke is going to be judged on goals.
Goals scores are judged on goals.
He got two opportunities in the first half.
One was from 30 yards.
One was from 25 yards.
Opportunities were few and far between.
And you could see in his mind, he's thinking,
I'm going to have a shot.
I'm going to try and get a shot off here.
I want to get on the score sheet
because that's what I'll be judged on.
He had, what, 60, 65 minutes.
Then Dominic Calvert Lewin came on.
He had probably the game's best chance
other than the goal from Ben White,
free header from inside the six yard box,
but again from another set play.
It just lacked cohesion.
It lacked any type of team performance.
and it really did.
It stunk of a performance of players that were playing for a place on the plane
and for self-gain rather than for team game.
And it was a difficult watch at times.
If you're Danny Welbeck watching that at home this evening,
surely you're thinking, I deserve a shot.
Well, if you're Ivan Tony, what you're thinking as well?
You look at the amount of goals that he scored in the Saudi Pro League this season.
Olly Watkins as well.
There's a lot of players there, Danny Welbeck, Ivan Tony, Olly Watkins.
There's a lot of goals there.
But again, it's a tough one, isn't it?
It's Harry Kane. He plays. If Harry Kane doesn't play, then we're looking at the options.
But on Thomas Tuchel's side of things, he gets to see Solanke in that situation when he's only got 60 minutes.
He gets to see Calvert Lewin when he's only got 30 minutes because that's all they're going to get if Harry Kane isn't there.
So that's a situation that they're going to have to perform in.
But we talk about Dominic Solanke and Dominic Calvert Lewin.
They're two strikers that this season pretty much play with in the width of the 18 yard box.
They rely on service.
And with that England performance tonight, they've got no service.
In Dennis, we've given you a bit of time to fester, if you like, on what was a very, very flat evening at Wembley.
I mean, by the time the Uruguay goal went in, and we saw that penalty and added on time, the majority of the stadium had cleared out.
They turfed out.
It's not really, it's not really conducive to a nation that should be billing itself and bigging itself up for a tournament in the States.
No, but, you know, you were missing.
players out of the 11 who are going to start and it will go to the World Cup.
Declan Rice, Anderson, Rogers, Gordon, Sacker, Harry Kane, you know, Byrne, Gahey, Concer, O'Reilly, Dean Henderson.
All those 11 players, if I've named all 11, they'll be going to the World Cup.
I think it's a performance that will pose more questions than answers regarding who gets that
ticket that Thomas Tuchel keeps referring to for his final squad of 26.
I think Olly Watkins, who's not been named in this squad of 35.
The performance tonight possibly still enhances his claims.
I wouldn't necessarily rule him out for making the final cut.
And I think that his comments regarding Cole Palmer,
he became more and more animated as the game wore on, did Thomas Tuchel.
I think in the first half, he showed signs where he was visibly applauding above his head.
Selanky, which actually wasn't too dissimilar to a little bit of a run from Harry Kane,
where he's poked it past his marker and then had a shot.
There was a driving run by Rashford down the left-hand side.
That got Tuchel applauding above his head.
Moments like that were few and far between.
Second half, a lot more animated.
He wasn't happy with Cole Palmer coming too deep to collect the ball,
wanted him further forward,
and he was also unhappy about Wharton giving the ball away.
And he just cut a more frustrated figure as the night wore on.
Do England have a problem, Sammy, in that player,
that creative outlet, that 10,
that someone who's going to link
the midfield and the attack and play that killer ball where you've got Cole Palmer and you've got
Phil Foden. I don't think they've got a problem. I think that they'll
Jude Bellingham will probably start at 10 right and that's a pretty good option to have.
If not you've got the option of Morgan Rogers potentially so there are options but I think
in isolation for tonight if Phil Foden or Cole Palmer had any aspirations of
even remotely pushing Morgan Rogers or Jude Bellingham out of that number 10 position.
I think those hopes have gone after tonight.
Why I ask you is Paul Robinson, we talked about it pregame, how big a night it was for Phil Foden tonight.
Yeah, he struggled to get into the game, in all honesty.
It wasn't his type of game.
Uruguay came here to kill the game, to not play with any type of tempo.
And England struggled to get any kind of attacking threat and tempo together in the final third.
And Phil Foden in that number 10 role, which I think,
personally is his best position.
He came in the game in flits and starts,
but that wasn't just him personally.
That was a collective as an England performance.
They struggled going forward in that final third.
And then he got that bad tackle, didn't he?
Aaraho.
It was a really poor challenge
where he actually could have been sent off
the Uruguayan Central Defender.
I think on another day,
he may have been sent off.
And then that knocked Phil Foden.
He was never be able to, you know,
after that he was never really able to shake that knock off.
Getting to see the tackle again.
As we talk now,
we're looking at the TV monitors.
and it's a really poor challenge.
He goes right through.
He gets the ball,
but it's an old-fashioned challenge.
He goes right up Phil Foden's left shin.
I mean, it's one that's certainly taking the wind out of his sales
for want of a better phrase.
And from there, he's never able to recover.
And it was an inevitable substitution.
Paul, he's going to have to leave one of those tens at home.
It's that question we've been asking ourselves,
I guess, for the last six months.
He's got Morgan Rogers, Jude Bellingham,
Cole Palmer, Phil Foden.
Which one stays at home?
on the evidence of tonight, I guess it will be Phil Foden.
I think when you look at the amount of time left in the season,
form's going to play a big part in it,
not just what you're doing in England, Jersey.
I think it's very difficult to judge any player on that performance tonight.
There's a long way to go between now and the end of the season.
Injuries and form will come into that often, I think, in Thomas Teucle's decision.
And how often do we see it, Sam,
when you come towards a tournament at the end of the season,
managers' decisions are quite often made for them because of injuries.
Paul, you talked about players trying too hard.
it felt like a group of individuals.
It did feel like a trial game, didn't it?
Where you see a club putting a team together for a season.
And yeah, just loads of trialists out.
They're all trying to hone individual quality.
They did not play like a team.
No, I think he created that atmosphere by naming that 35-man squad,
by doing what he's done.
And you look at the players that are coming in that were here tonight,
that we'll join up tomorrow.
They almost now, well, they are.
They're going, aren't they?
The ones that are coming in tomorrow.
That group of players are almost the chosen few that are going.
And this was the audition.
It'd be interesting to see what team he picks on Tuesday against Japan
as to whether he goes full tilt or it's another audition.
Because you know, you can't dress it up any other way.
Thomas Tuka will say, you know, we're looking at all these players.
We're going to play this way.
This is what we're doing.
It's a team, etc., etc.
That's nonsense.
That was an individual trial game.
And that's what it looked like.
When he named his squad last week, he talked about the 10 position.
And he says, we're going to have to make some tough calls on that 10 position.
He talked about Palmer and Foden playing in the game against Uruguay.
And then Jude Bellingham, Rogers or Eze, who he says can play anywhere against Japan.
Now, they're managing the expectations regarding Bellingham.
And they weren't prepared to take any risks.
I think Rogers will start against Japan and then Bellingham to come off the bench.
So then all of a sudden, I'm going back to his comments about Col Palmer,
where he says he has to show.
We have more evidence without him than we have with him.
He cannot hold back.
This was an opportunity for Cole Palmer to do that.
And I'm not necessarily convinced that whether he's...
But I think him and Foden.
I mean, Foden's gone now, 21 games without a goal on international level.
To me, he wasn't as close to the penalty area
that Thomas Tuchel would have wanted him to be in that first half.
You look at the quality of players that we've got, right?
We talk about individuals.
You analyse those players individually.
Every single one of those would enhance
most of the teams that they played in.
But as a team tonight, it didn't work.
And the fact that we're sat here now, we're thinking,
okay, who put their hand up?
And the first answer to that question was Harry McGuire.
You know, he played okay.
He did well enough.
But actually, as a performance
and as a collective as a team,
we've got attacking talent like Maduecki,
Foden, Rashford, Solanky.
You know, those type of quality players
in an attacking third way you're thinking,
go on then, show us something.
We didn't get anything tonight.
about Ben White, Sammy, because he came back in,
no Trent Alexander Arnold in this squad
and there's question marks over whether he goes
to the United States and Canada and Mexico.
And he was involved at both ends,
was Arsenal's Ben White.
Yeah, it was a re-baptism of fire for him,
wasn't it?
On his, on his England return,
booed by a section of supporters as he came on,
scores the goal.
Even when his name was read out after goal,
after scoring the goal,
was booed again and then goes away to give, give away that last last gas penalty for Eurogris equaliser.
Look, it's been a difficult road back to international football for for Ben White.
I think it was the machinations towards tonight have been ongoing pretty much ever since
Thomas Tuchel took over.
My understanding was ahead of the June friendlies, which were, then I remind me who they were against.
It was Senegal and Andorra.
Yeah.
There was a possibility of him getting called up then.
But his wife was at the time was just about to give birth.
And so I think if you think about the machinations of Ben White pulling out of another squad,
that wouldn't have been necessarily been a good look.
So I think they decided not to do it then.
And then for the August games, the August qualifies, again, I think there was Serbia and Andorra.
I think Thomas Tushu wanted to.
wanted to select him then, but he got injured at the start of the season with a knee problem.
And then he's just not played, has he?
Jury and Timbers is Arsenal's first choice right back.
And Thomas Tushu hasn't been able to pick him, but he's picked him tonight.
And I think he, for that 15, 20 minutes he came on, he scored the goal, gave the goal away.
I think he leaves here broken even.
But I still think it will be a hard push for him to get into the final squad.
look, I think, you know,
Reese James is going ahead of him,
but can we trust Reese James
to overcome his injury problems?
Tino Livremento played tonight.
I know Thomas Tushu likes him,
but, you know,
will his body hold up?
He's had an injury.
It's a separate point, though.
How many of these players
are we talking about
where we're like, right, great,
fantastic, will their bodies hold up
in the sweltering heat?
Aaron, we said before,
me, Ian and John,
all three of us said,
Thomas Tuchel is very strong-willed.
He plans ahead.
He will know exactly what he wants to take with him to America.
He will have an outline of the squad now.
What is it?
It's a 26-man squad that he's got to name.
And out of those 35 there,
I think he will probably know for definite 23 of them.
And I think there is nobody on that pitch tonight
that has made a case for him to suggest otherwise.
What do you think, Ian?
Well, the John Stone's thing is a problem.
for Thomas Tuchel
because he's played very little football since December
67 minutes against Solford
and an FAA Cup tie
and then the full 90
against Newcastle United at St James's Park.
He would have started tonight
but he had a calf injury in training
and that, you know, he couldn't trust his body.
And John Murray said to Thomas Tuchel
are you going to have to be 100% confident
of his fitness to include him
in the World Cup squad?
And Thomas said, yes, I guess so.
But he came here and he was fit.
Then he feels something.
So if we call him up, there might be the chance he maybe misses out on a match at short notice.
We have other top central defenders, but he can still play a part with his energy and with his quality.
But first of all, I want him to be in camp as a player.
Let's see how this camp continues and how it plays out.
So now that means that they're going to have to assess that calf issue, bearing in mind they've got Japan on Tuesday night at Wembley.
Ian, I've been watching England for 30 years.
I don't think I've ever heard an England player be booed after scoring.
Well, to be fair, I mean, I remember being in France at Euro 2016 and Rahim Stirling was subjected to a lot more booing and jeering from the England supporters than what Ben White had tonight.
And I remember speaking to Daniel Sturge and Daniel Sturge coming out in defence of Rahim Stirling on that occasion at Euro 2016.
Ashley Cole has been booed before.
So it's nothing new.
And actually, I think in comparison to those two incidents I've mentioned,
That was actually quite tame.
Paul, let's talk goalkeepers.
James Trafford handed a first cap this evening.
How do you think he got on?
And does he have the potential to sort of cement himself
as that third choice goalkeeper in this squad for the tournament?
He was very under-employed tonight, wasn't he?
And it's very difficult to judge him on that game.
A year ago, I had one shot on target,
and it was a penalty, and they scored from it.
A penalty he could do nothing about.
I mean, he's still only 23 years of age.
That was his first cap.
He's a goalkeeper that I know.
I know that Thomas Tuckel likes him
and I think he's been unfortunate in that situation
at Manchester City. I think he went there
thoroughly expecting to be a big part
of their season and to play week in and week out
and that hasn't happened. The opportunity to sign
one of the world's best goalkeepers in Dona Rummer arose
and that's kind of knocked his career
back a little bit. I think when you look at Jordan
Pickford, I said in commentary, he's got 81
caps Jordan Pickford, 71 of those
are a competitive which
speaks a lot for where he is and 23
of those 71 are in major tournaments
so there's nobody that's going to take
his position at the moment, but underneath him, once again, we're guilty as a nation of having
one goalkeeper who's heavily capped and three or four understudies who are in single figures
cap wise.
I know this is really nitpicky.
I know you're part of the union.
I think there's one moment which really sort of opened up is and showed a bit where he showed
a bit naivety.
And that was at the death where Uruguay were pressing and pressing and pushing and pushing and hunting
a winner and he claims the ball and he plays out to Lewis Hall who's got three men in
front of him, Hall tries to pop a ball down the left and it gets intercepted in midfield and suddenly England are under pressure again.
And he just think, yeah, an experience keeper drops, gets down and sits on the ball or stands it into the corners, don't they?
Yeah, that is nitpicky. Very nitpicky. Sorry. And I'm definitely not part of the union. My card was revoked a long time ago in lieu of honesty and the job that I do now. But no, listen, I think that's, it's a lot of this, listen, it's a completely different topic and you'll get.
get me on my high horse about it,
about playing out from the back.
They do so many.
It's like set plays.
When a goalkeeper gets the ball,
he has three or four situations and scenarios in front of him
that he has in his mind.
And if they're not on,
then a goalkeeper's mind is quite often premeditated
as to what the manager wants them to do,
regardless of what the situation of the game is.
And actually, where the game was at that point,
yes, England were under pressure,
but at the same time, he's just conceded.
And England, it's a game that they want to go on and win.
he's thinking can I set off an attack?
Can I start something?
And he made a bad decision as to where he threw the ball out.
And we can hear from James Trafford after his first cap.
He's with John Murray.
Yes, first of all, it is one of England's debutant tonight, James Trafford.
James, that must be very frustrating for you the way that it finished there.
Yeah, it's obviously frustrating because we played well.
We limited them to very little and I haven't seen the penalty back.
So I don't know, but judging off our reactions, I'm not sure on it.
And yeah, it was unfortunate, but it was a really good game all in.
At best you would say the award of the penalty was debatable, clear and obvious, question mark?
I don't know. I haven't seen it back.
High foot, and it is one of those where it is debatable.
Yeah, I don't know. I haven't seen it back. It happens quite quick live, isn't it?
Tell us what the experience was like then.
You've had to wait a little while for the opportunity.
Yeah, obviously, I think it's two years ago this March was my first camp.
And yeah, caps aren't given out their earned like everyone knows.
And yeah, when I got told I was starting, I was obviously really happy.
Everyone around me was really happy because I was making my England debut.
and J&JN it over the two years that I've been with the senior squad, it paid off.
Yeah, and a kind of great time for it to happen, having played here, kept the clean sheet and won a cup final just a few days ago?
Yeah, obviously the cup final was amazing.
It was a great experience for me and me and the team.
And yeah, I just wanted to come into the camp on Tuesday.
I just wanted to build on the good momentum that I'd built myself through the days of training and the games I've played.
Just tell me James as well because this is a great day in your professional life,
great day in your life to play for the England senior team for the first time
from farming beginnings.
You know, when you were growing up on the farm to think that you'd be here playing for England?
Yeah, obviously it's, I've come a long way in life.
Not many farmers' sons from North West Cumbria play for England.
And yeah, I just took it every day at a time as a kid still do
and just try as hard as I can.
I have to say, I've got a little bit of common ground with you
as a farmer's son myself from Northumberland.
What sort of things were you doing on the farm
when you were growing up?
Growing up, just loved just being with my dad,
with my mum, just on the tractor with my dad
sat in the tractor,
muck and hose out, feeding sheep,
lambd of sheep.
And yeah, me and a sister,
just loved it as kids just farming.
Like that's all we knew really.
It was farming first.
and whatever me and my sister did was second and yeah we both loved it growing up
we've seen such a leap to have come from that to this yeah when you put it like that yeah
but I don't really think about it I enjoy I enjoy going back home to the farm because
that's where my mates from my family still live there yeah I enjoy going back I don't really
do too much farming now when I go back but on Christmas day me my dad went round sheep so yeah I
I enjoy it.
Lovely.
Well, well done tonight,
and I hope it's a first of many.
Yeah, hopefully.
Cheers, pal.
Well, we've already heard
from one of England's debutants
tonight, James Trafford.
Now, the other James, James Garner,
congratulations to you.
Great moment, I was just saying
to the other James,
great moment in your life,
isn't it, to play for England
for the senior team for the first time?
Yeah, no, you know,
I'm very happy and very grateful
for this moment.
For a long time,
I didn't think it was possible,
but I think this season,
I've really pushed on and made this achievable
and I'm so happy that it happened today.
A lot of people have to wait a bit.
James Trafford certainly has been in quite a number of senior squads
for you in the squad, in the team.
Yeah, like I said, I'm very grateful.
I think it's a little bit harder for keepers
as obviously, you know, there's quite a few of them in the same position.
But yeah, like I said, I'm just really happy to come in
and the manager's trusted me in such a big game
and yeah.
Did he only tell you today?
Today was when I found out
so I've been a bag of nerves
to be quite honest with you.
Have you? A couple of days
just waiting and hoping
to be selected and found out today
and yeah I just couldn't wait to get on the pitch.
Are you one who gets nervous
whenever you play or no?
No, I don't really get nervous
but of course this is
this is an experience that I've never felt before
Of course it is just another game of football
but you know
you carry that extra bit of weight
wearing the England shirt
and yeah
I just didn't want to put a foot wrong
It must have nice
It must be nice that it's come when you're in a groove
A good groove
Yeah no I think I've been
I think I've had a good season
And I think my form
Of late has been really good
And I'm glad that I've managed
To bring it into the camp
And like I said I'm just really happy that I ended up
getting some minutes today and showing what I can do.
Be honest, how do you think you did?
Yeah, I think I did all right.
You know, of course, in your dream debut,
you want to be scoring goals and assisting and things like that
and obviously winning the game,
but, you know, I feel like I didn't really put a foot wrong,
so I'm just really happy and grateful that I, you know,
that I managed to make my debut today and, yeah.
Yeah, in a tough match, all the substitutions,
awkward, difficult opponents.
Yeah, no, you know, very, very, very,
good team like what you said of quite a stop start game a couple of injuries
couple of bad tackles as well but yeah no it was a good game to be a part of
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and for tenor floor on five live sports on the football daily podcast the debrief with Aaron paul
it's been widely reported that manuel agate the manchester united midfielder had been awarded two yellow
cards in the game and not been sent off and you mentioned it in commentary i did yeah because
i saw the german referee and i said i was actually said in commentaries that to ugati
and then i said oh it can't be he's already been booked
And then, but there is a suspicion that it was to him.
And now there's a, there's an alternative view in the tunnel, according to John Murray, that that wasn't the case.
It maybe was rescinded.
But if you actually recall back recently at Selhurst Park, Tom Bramel was the referee when Crystal Palace played League United.
And it was Goodmanson, wasn't it?
That's right.
And he'd been booked, and he hadn't clocked immediately that Goodmanson had been shown a yellow card.
And he had to be told that he had to show him a second yellow card before he was ultimately sent off.
But I did think of that, I thought, it can't be.
He's already been booked.
But that was the referee, Sven Yablonsky, who, the fourth official,
who was a guy called Benjamin Brand, didn't half get a verbal lashing from Thomas Tuchel
about the sending off of Ronald Rauho for the challenge on.
I don't expect you to know this off the top of your head, but I don't know it myself.
I just wonder, is there any, you know, is there any comeback on ascending off in this game?
Because it was so late in the game.
Has the referee gone, oh, maybe I don't want to do that.
because that has a knock on effect with the World Cup
with future friendlies or what to be else has maybe got in his ear.
Because he clearly did show a second yellow card
or a yellow card somewhere, didn't he?
I mean, I was always the opinion
that yellow cards couldn't be rescinded.
I think that's correct, yeah.
I can't recall any game or an instance in my head
where I might be wrong and I'd be happy to be proved wrong
where a yellow card has been rescinded.
It's unheard of.
And on another night, that would have,
have been the prevailing story of the evening, a cock-up such as that, nothing that I've ever
seen before in my life.
You've seen reds upgraded and downgraded, but that's pretty much it.
I've never seen being at a game, seeing a player receive two yellow cards and then not,
yeah, not obviously not not, not then get the red.
And the Arahu tackle on Phil Foden was was definite borderline red.
It was a very strong orange and I think a lot of referees would have just given straight red.
And how VAR didn't tell him to go and have a look at that, I don't know.
And I don't even think Arajo got booked in, did he?
No, he didn't.
Right.
What can Thomas Tuchel take away from this evening?
And I'm going to sort of, you know, marry that question up with another, which is very simply, who's going home?
Who's done?
I like the way you look at me first.
What can he take away from this evening?
From a manager's point of view, when they'll put a positive spin on it, he'll look at the back.
for. He'll look at Maguire and Tamori, a good partnership. A defensive solidity about England,
out of possession. They were never really threatened from Uruguay. I think Maguire has definitely
given himself a better opportunity than he had. One because of John Stones his injury and two, because of
his performance that he showed this evening. Marcus Rashford in flashes said in commentary that the two
wide players to start with Madowecki and Rashford, opposite foot and opposite wings, they always come
inside.
Rashford looked a lot better when he went round the outside and took the
fallbacks on and give England a little bit of width.
Honestly, Aaron, it's very, very difficult to pick positives out of that.
I'm trying to do that from a manager's point of view who's going to look forward
and look for positives.
His players came through it.
He's got the injury possibly to Madowecki to Phil Foden that he's going to have to look
at.
But I think the positives that he's got is he's got a lot of other players that are coming
into play on Tuesday night and he'll be hoping for a better performance.
Injuries, injury is permitting.
Thomas Tuchel is very settled in his mind.
he knows what's going to happen.
So you've got a squad of 35.
The 11 players who are here now
will link up with the England squad.
He said he wants 23 outfield players
and the four goalkeepers.
So with my maths,
that is eight players to be released.
And those eight players know who they are.
Thomas Tuchel has told them.
Oh, is that a mic drop moment there?
Is that you finished?
And they know who they are.
We don't know who they are.
Any advances?
Have a guess, Sammy.
Go on.
Give us your guess on your eight that are going.
Let's build this list.
Well, Foden will go because of the injury, I would have thought.
Noni Madweke will probably go because of the injury he came off.
I don't think I'll take any chances with him.
It will be interesting to see if John Stones hangs around, given the calf injury.
I don't think Manchester City will want England taking any risks with him.
So you've only got five more left then.
There's five more.
Jordan Henderson, does he know enough about he can, he's playing?
played a lot of football this season.
He's maybe one that he says, okay,
I know what you can do.
Maybe someone, maybe a Jared Bowen.
Ben White, maybe the two that came in late,
Harvey Barnes, Ben White, they both got on tonight.
Does, you know, do they last in, first out?
It'll be interesting to see which, which players leave.
But just to answer your first question, Aaron,
What did Tuchel take away from tonight?
I think hoping and praying that none of his starting 11
get injured ahead of the tournament.
I think that's rubber stamped his plan for the first game.
He knows what his team is going to be.
No one has really done themselves any favours in terms of getting into that team.
Maybe, as we said, Harry McGuire has pushed his claim for a place in the squad.
but yeah tonight Thomas Tushu will have had those ideas ahead of the first game
absolutely ratified in his head and he will go into that tournament knowing what his team is
before we go let's hear from the England manager Thomas Tuchel is with John Murray
and here now is the England manager Thomas Tuchel how has that left you feeling
Thomas and the end I was sad because I think we deserved the win
and we gave it away the last minute with a very very soft
penalty that he didn't give anyway.
Debatable?
Very debatable, very soft.
And honestly, after
the tackle against
Nonimadeweke and after the tackle against
Cole Palmer, I was sure that
VAR is run out of electricity.
Not working tonight.
And then suddenly in the last minute, did they find
the way to overturn this decision?
This is clearly not enough to overturn the decision.
But okay.
How are those two?
to Nonny Madweke and Phil Forre and that didn't look like a good tackle at all.
No, no, no, no.
That's also a horrible tackle and even the challenge with Noni is like on the edge, I think, in the penalty.
But okay.
Yeah, both went out.
We needed both substitution slots, which was not planned and hurt our flow and the plan a little bit,
how to take the substitutions.
But given the circumstances, we did very well.
There were so many new players.
It was first time this formation, very feisty and tough opponent.
So it was a good test.
And I like the way we played.
I like the way we behaved.
There's always positive attitude.
Everyone helped each other out.
So good team effort.
Unfortunately, we didn't win, but it's okay.
The question is, who has furthered their cause for a ticket, as you call it?
Yeah, we will now reevaluate because we need to also assess our injured players
and check with all the guys who come in if everyone is available
or if there are some doubts.
That's how it is at this time of the season.
So tomorrow morning we are smarter and take some decisions.
Turned out that Ben White had quite the evening when he came on.
As you heard, as we suspected there might be,
there were some booze from some of the England fans.
I didn't hear it because I'm in the game.
I rarely hear any reaction of that.
So I think it was mixed reactions towards him.
And I understood now because your colleagues asked me already
that there were booze when he came on.
booze when he scored and booze when he committed a penalty. So three times and that's it,
no? I have to say, Thomas, I don't think in all of the England matches I've seen here,
I don't think I've ever heard an England goal scorer booed. Yeah, we're disappointed with this
because this does not help and it's not what we want and he was excellent in camp. He was
excellent in the match and he wants to turn the page and write some new chapters and he did
impressively with the goal and almost got us the winners.
So of course, we will always defend our players and the players that I select.
I'm disappointed, but hopefully we can put this behind.
I heard it happen to other players and they went through it.
Well, we know the 11 who are coming in are here in the stadium.
So who's going?
The dressing room.
We will decide tomorrow.
Like I said, we need to check on the injuries.
We need to check on the players who played now.
And also on the guys, I'm not aware of the last.
status of them. But it's good atmosphere. They were all in the dressing room, which made me happy.
And everyone was cheering and the guys on and was straight away good energy. And then they were gutted
that we didn't win it. So it was nice to see. And tomorrow we take some decisions to have
proper squad against Japan. Thomas Tuchel, thank you very much.
So not a classic at Wembley. England won, Uruguay 1. Thank you to John Murray and Dennis, Paul
Robinson and Sammy Mockbell.
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