Football Daily - The Debrief: Big wins for Newcastle & Liverpool while Chelsea struggle

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

Steve Crossman is joined by Charlie Adam, Pat Nevin and Ian Dennis as Liverpool, Newcastle & Chelsea all win. It was a 3-0 win for Newcastle against PSV Eindhoven, however there's concern for captain Bruno Guimaraes who hobbled off with an ankle injury in the first half. Liverpool cruised past Marseille 3-0 to put themselves in a strong position to finish in the top eight on a night where Mohamed Salah returned to the starting line-up. And Chelsea beat Pafos 1-0 to keep their hopes alive of finishing in the top eight but frustration at Stamford Bridge. Timecodes: 01:30 Intro  05:50 Newcastle & Guimaraes injury 06:25 Eddie Howe 14:45 Liverpool & Szoboszlai free-kick 23:25 Arne Slot 24:45 Chelsea frustrated but a win

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Chelsea 1-0 winners over Paphos, Newcastle 3-0 winners over PSV-Eindhoven, and Liverpool also winning 3-0 in Marseilles. We'll talk about all of it. Charlie Adam is with us in studio, former Liverpool midfielder, Pat Nevin and Ian Dennis at St James's Park, wary and it was simply never in doubt. Very true, yeah, three clean sheets and three successive wins now at home in the Champions League. Newcastle United can take comfort by securing at least a playoff spot in this competition.

PSV Eindhoven arrived with an impressive away record. However, they were undone by their insistence at playing out from the back and they were caught out twice. Cobar, the goalkeeper, under pressure, his clearance straight to Gimorash, who found Joel inton to set up Whistler to score after eight minutes. Gararowski then hesitated, Wisser pounced and then turned provider for Gordon for a tapping on the half hour. Barnes took away a fine third goal on the second half to give Newcastle hope of automatic

qualification. The only problem is there are a way to Paris Saint-Germann next week. It's a good point, good time for me to say we've got three Champions League commentaries next week as well, so we'll be at all of the big games. Pat, I mean, it's unbelievably tight. I mentioned Newcastle in 7th. They're on 13 points. So are at Atlanta in 13th.

So look, it might not end this part of the Champions League with them qualifying automatically, and it might do. But to be through to the playoffs, I mean, if you're a Newcastle fan, you would have taken that. Yeah, I think at the start of the season, that's what you'd be pretty happy about. As I say, very few teams, they appear most to be English at the moment,

get into that top eight. And you usually have to be a very good team and having a good season. So yeah, Newcastle, they've had a lot of difficulties this term. But look at it just now. As we speak, you know, they're through. As we also speak, they're still in the semi-finals, just of the League Cup as well.

And they've got a chance of getting into the top four or five in the Premier League if they have a good end to the season. So, you know, it's sitting there balanced to be in a very, very good season. But then again, that's the case we'll get a few clubs just out, isn't it? Particularly in the Premier League. So if Newcastle can get a few of the players, particularly at the back line back, they'll need them because there are a lot of games. And if you look at the running games at Newcastle have got in the next four or five, wow, they're going to be stretched. I guess Charlie, it will also be about recruitment for them as well.

And I know they haven't got a lot of money. And I know they're probably focusing in on a defender. But if you're one of the calibre of players that Newcastle are going to want, knowing they're going to be playing Champions League knockout football, one way or another is a massive attraction. Newcastle have got plenty money. They've got a state owning them. Yeah, but they can't spend it all because of the PSR at the minute.

But they could be clever enough in terms of how they're going. Again, it's hard and it's difficult. You know, when you pick up injuries to key players and probably not replace Isak the way they probably wanted to replace him, I think Eddie House done a wonderful job and I think he's going well. But the pressure's coming in terms of from external noise. that's normal when you're at a club that expects with what they have on the outside, with the ownership and different things.

But Eddie's doing a fine job and that result tonight, why can't they go to Paris and get a result? They lost to sporting Lisbon last night. They've had a cut of the defeats recently against Paris FC in France. So I still think that this Newcastle team are capable on the counterattack with Barnes, with Gordon, Joel Lint and Guy Moresh. They're players that are good enough to go and hurt Paris, Jean-Mand. I couldn't rule them out qualifying automatically. But, yeah, of course, it's difficult away from home.

But you've made that St James's Park of Fortress at home in the Champions League. Which brings us actually nicely onto Bruno, who they'll just be desperate as fit for that. I don't think he's looked right yet, you know, of the last couple of weeks. And it isn't because he's been lazy. And it isn't because he's run out of legs. It's because he looks to me as if he's playing with an injury. And I've thought that for a couple of games now.

And tonight it became very, very clear. actually would applaud his bravery to try and push through it. And he was trying to push through it tonight when it was silly because he clearly was injured. He clearly wasn't capable of carrying on. But he kept on going for another 15, 20 minutes. And, you know, he was taking off. The hope is that they've got a chance to rest him now.

Miley come on and look perfectly good there. So it may well he gets a chance to rest there. But you need a full, fully fit, gimmee, not a half-fit one. And I suppose you can say about any player at the top. I think for Newcastle, the difficulty that have now is the fix sure list that they have coming up in terms of they play Villa at the weekend, then PSG, Liverpool, Man City, Brentford. Their teams are all around them trying to fight for that Champions League team

in terms of trying to win their game. So again, if Gimarech misses at the weekend, against Asasville, it's a huge blow. But trying to get them fit for the Champions League is then gives you a break for that. So five or six big games coming up from Newcastle and they couldn't afford to lose them for, you know, six, seven weeks. And that's the incentive, Charlie, as well, of not playing in the playoffs, because otherwise, you'd be looking at, bearing in mind, they've played nine games in the month of January. It would be eight then next month.

So you'd be looking at 17 matches in a 55-day period. And this is a squad that is already stretched, although Dan Byrne is close to coming back, to which Eddie Howe says would be like a new signing. Asula, after his ankle problem, is also coming back as well. But they've still got Kraft out. They've still got Murphy out, share with his ankle ligaments, livermen, Santo and LaSelle. So they certainly wouldn't want to be missing Bruno Gimerich for a period of time.

No, absolutely not. And again, Captain Leader, I think he's, let's say, over the last period since he's come to the football club, he's been a real standout player for him. And he's one that carries the supporters with him in terms of getting the crowd going and his performance of the dictated that and how he's played. So to lose him for a few weeks would be a massive blow for them. All right, let's get some reaction from the Newcastle dressing room. Here's manager Eddie Howe?

Just focusing on this game, really. and how we played and the win and the importance of that. Whatever it does to us in the table, we would be in a better position than we were before the game. And of course, we had, I think, one of the most, if not the most difficult last game. And we were well aware of that, and that put even more importance on this one.

So delighted with the result. We're in everything to win it, and that's not me saying that we are going to win it. It's me saying that we will do our best to win every single game, go as far and as deep as we can. But that's not in just this competition. That's in every game that we play. I think when you associate yourself with this club,

that's the mindset we need and that's the mindset we try and instill into the place. Pat, with some teams, I'm sort of loath to ask the question of, you know, who is their best player or who is their most important player? That's quite easy when Newcastle, isn't it? It's Bruno. It is when he's playing at his best. But, you know, as I say, I think they've got good backup. I really do think they've got, you know, not a lot of it, but good backup.

You were very early on Miley, weren't you? Very early. I remember in a copy of the season. Yeah, I just thought, a very, very special player because it's one of those classic things. There's little signs when Charlie will know all about this. To you when a young player comes in and everybody passes it to him,

you don't pass to bad players. And you give the ball in where he's marked and you think, right, he can play. You don't even need to see what he does with the ball, but the fact that he's got the vision, he always, even when the ball doesn't arrive where it's supposed to, he picks out the right ball. So he's got phenomenal energy.

He's also very, very tall. He seems to read the game. pretty effortlessly for a player of his young age. So he's a bit special there. But again, don't ask too much too early for certain players. So he'll come into that midfield and it won't be an absolute panic up. But in the end, who is the most important players? Well, don't take anything away from Anthony Gordon.

Some of the things he's done tonight. I mean, the work rate, you know, putting crosses in, chasing down, getting his goal, obviously. But, you know, doing that high press, which led to those first two goals. That was brilliant. And then the next time he's tackling it left back on his own goal line. I mean, his work rate is absolutely off the scale. So, you know, Gordon Barnes, a whole lot of them, they have to work.

But that's what you have to do in the modern game. But every one of them, I don't think it's one player. I think it's the unit with Newcastle. I think that's what it is with them. That's the most important thing. His record, Pat, in the Champions League, Gordon's record, is way better than in the Premier League this season. Is that just a coincidence?

That's a very good point. You almost, when you play Champions League football, I would kind of compare it, because there's more Champions League games now than they used to be in tennis-com-plan. Compare it almost with international football. See, international football, you play against players you didn't play against all the time,

so they don't know you if you're an attacker. And if you're an attacker, and someone doesn't know you a special precker, your go-to tricks, or your things that you're absolutely best and doesn't know you, it's brilliant. You love it as an attacker

because you're playing against somebody going to go, what's you going to do next? Whereas if you're playing against the same fullback, like 60, times and two seasons. You know the inside out and you have to read adapt all the time. So sometimes playing in Champions League or even that international football, for some players, it actually can be a wee bit easier. He scored six goals in his seven Champions League games now this season, Steve, which is the same level, what Alan Shearer, he scored six for

Newcastle in the 0203 campaign. But as far as this campaign is concerned, I think I'm right in saying that only Killian Mbapé has scored more goals than Anthony Gordon. Yeah, but I think, I think if you look at God, Gordon, his goal scoring record is not great. You know, okay, 23, 24, he scored 11 goals and 10 assists. But other seasons, he's never got double figures. You know, so we're asking, we're thinking, is Anthony Gordon should be scoring more goals, more assists? You know, yeah.

Is part of it him growing into that player? No, absolutely. That's grown with the pressure of being a Newcastle player. But again, even Everton, didn't score a lot of goals. Not scored a lot of goals in his career. But again, when you start going about what other players are doing, at the top level in terms of like, you know, Salah does and, you know, the top players for England,

what they're doing goals and assists, then, you know, he then's looking to get that. If you can get goals, just double figures for that, then that elevates your career and elevates you as a player. So, you know, for Antigarden scoring, you know, four, five goals a season, that's sort of quite normal. Okay, he's had that one season where he scored 11 goals and 10 assists. But in the last two seasons, so five scores, six goals,

five assists in 24, 25. and then this season he's got two goals, one assists in the league. So the Champions League seems to be his place where he's scoring the goals. And listen, he's a terrific player. And, you know, the way he presses and the intensity he can go is, you know, there's no men in the Premier League can do what he does. You know, can I say the point of Chile? Yeah, of course.

I agree with you. But the one thing is, I don't know a lot of those players who do the work going back at the heaters. And a lot of the time, he's coming off after 60, 70 minutes. and he's basically crawling off the part because he's done the job of three men because he's doing all that back stuff but the thing for him

part is that and I got to look at the numbers in terms of his high speed he'll be doing anything between I would say 12, 15, 1,500 high speed in the Premier League which is one of the best in the Premier League intensity, sprint distance

will be incredible he's an absolute machine in terms of running stats in the Premier League the intensity presses it Like you say, would you not want him to do it in the final third though? Yeah.

That's the problem. A lot of it's by his own half. But again, that's ultimately that's what Eddie wants him to do for the team. He's a very good team player. And maybe if he wasn't doing that and he was at the top end of the pitch fresh and ready to go,

he might have some more goals and assist to the team. But yeah, for him to do what he does in terms of what he's done in the Champions League, it's incredible. And I say, Newcastle got a very good player in their hands. We should at least have a word here, Pat on the other England international winger who is scoring a lot of goals for Newcastle.

I mean, it's not, given what's happened with Dan Byrne, even though there's so much competition, it feels not ridiculous that Harvey Barnes is backing. Scottish! Is he? Yeah, I've just trying to jump in there as well, Charlie. He's in his cap for England? Yeah, but it doesn't he get... Do you think he's going to get in the Scotland's world?

I think Steve Clark will be trying to take him to the World Cup for Scotland. He won't get an English squad. I'm trying to get him in Scotland's squad. I've heard that conversation, but he has played for England, so there's no reason he couldn't still be called up by England. No, he can still be called up for England, but it was a friendly. So he's still eligible to play for Scotland. And I hope Steve's trying to do everything he can to get one.

But isn't that a conversation now? It's always been a conversation. It was big in November. It was very big in November where he started up again. Yeah, but I think for Harvey Barnes it was more about he wanted to play for England. Yeah, well, exactly. I'm not sure he still gets in that squad at the moment. He doesn't get an England squad.

He's not in that sort of morgan. Roger's Saka Foden Palmer level He would struggle even if you took

a squad of 30 I think Harvey Barnes with no disrespect would struggle to try and break through from all the players who were ahead of him although it was

very amusing to see how quickly Pat and Charlie took on it I know don't you want to ask you I can remember Pat having the conversation

before the Denmark game and Harvey Barnes and we have the conversation then about him However, things have changed since then. And if he still wants to, well, this is probably for another night, but I would love to ask him the question now, wouldn't you?

Yeah, but he's been asked the question a few times, and he's been brilliantly deflecting it with his forward defensive strokes, because he wanted to wait as long as he possibly could see if he could get that England. Look, that's understandable, acceptable. But he's come to a time where, you know, he's of an age where how many World Cups are going to be. Is he going to get that chance, you know, for England? Scotland would welcome him with open arms. that's what happens.

Every country does that. He would be made incredibly welcome within the Scotland squad. And apart from many things, he would become an important player for Scotland at a World Cup. So, you know, have I sold that enough? Yeah, I think so.

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just search for BBC Women's Football Weekly and hit subscribe once you get there. On the Football Daily podcast, Champions League debrief. With Steve Crossman. Yeah, good conversation. that around Harvey Burns. We will be back at St James's Park shortly. We're going to talk a bit

of Liverpool their victory in Marseilles by three goals to nil. So they in the Champions League are looking well set for a place automatically. They finish with Carabag at home. Tonight, John Acres in the end, pretty straightforward. Very straightforward and a welcome

straightforward victory after all the draws. It is 13 unbeaten. All the headlines were about Mohammed Salah. It wasn't his night. missed a decent chance, but it's certainly was Liverpool's night and they look like they should finish in the top eight now. They're fourth with that win. Carabag at home next. Dominic Sobazly's free kick, gave them a lead. That was welcome under the wall that jumped with no draft excluder underneath. It was pinpoint.

The keeper got a hand to it, but it was an excellent free kick from 20 yards. Marseilles were a bit better in the second half. They've been free scoring, of course, Steve. They scored 22 in the last six matches and Liverpool defended well. Joe Gomez. in the team for Canate, he was out for personal reasons. Mason Greenwood stung the palms of Allison, who made a few good saves in the match, but they had the stuffing knocked out of them, really, with the own goal.

Great pace to the byline from Frimpong, and it went in off the keeper's heel, Ruelly, in off the post. That was midway through the second half. And then Gakpo wrapped things up for 3-0 Liverpool, richly deserved, fantastic atmosphere. But Marseille couldn't find any rhythm against the Liverpool team,

who did look really good. with Sala back in the team I've got to say, came back from AFCON and did perform well. So Marseille, Liverpool 3, full time. Thank you very much, John. Here's one for you, Pat. Can you remember somebody scoring a free kick under the wall

in an old firm game going back a few years? Oh, I should know that, shouldn't it really? Can you ever think about who that might have been? Just think about where you are and where I am right now and who might be sitting next to me in the studio. I mean, I was going to say Charlie. Oh, were you? Yeah.

The thing is, I don't like talking about the free kicks to Charlie. I've got a couple of free kicks in my time, but we've got a master free kicks on the other end of the line there, so Charlie should talk about him. No, I think, again, for Marseille's watching it back, is that normally somebody has the, we call it a doorstop in terms of set play coach when I used to be one. You call which bit a doorstop?

We call it the doorstop. What we call the draft exclusive? Yes. So no one else calls it the draft excluded. You call it the doorstop. So we call it technically a doorstop in the game. That doesn't make sense, Charlie. Door stops aren't long and thin.

But Sean Fatt. Yeah, but they're long and then it stops the ball going there. So we call it doorstop. So anyway, we yeah, normally in the Premier League, you see players lying behind it and tonight Marseille have not done that. And so obviously, Lise took his free kick and it was a lovely finish. Just as we were about to start talking about this, you went on your phone and you'd forgotten to turn the volume down.

Were you watching the free kickback or doing something else? No, it wasn't a me. It was one of the producers that done it. Don't believe you. Yeah, it wasn't the minute. I have just watched it. It's a lovely free kick. Rangers versus Celtic, obviously.

Did you mean it? Of course I meant it. So, but at that point, Pat, I don't know, when you were playing, would you have had anything like the equivalent of the draft excluded? Because to me, it feels like something we've only seen in sort of the last, I don't know, 10 years, but maybe that's just sort of recent and bias. I actually had seen it many, many, many years ago,

but it wasn't regular. Right. It was quite unusual to do it. Because, you know, just the idea of, you know, most players started jumping, you know, from free kicks from players get better, it's getting up and down over the wall. So, yeah, it's one of those things.

It's like, you know, it's like an arms race. You know, you have to add something else and something else and something else, but it is now absolutely regular. You should really probably do it every time. If your wall's going to jump, you need one. Especially if you're in that position where Sobber's lying.

because he's just probably four or five yards outside the box. It's capable of being able to go underneath the wall. So then it allows your defenders to actually jump a little bit higher. It's higher than you can. If you've got that doorstop underneath the wall, it gives your defenders that opportunity to jump higher than normal. Because if it wasn't there, you can only really jump probably two or three inches because if the ball go underneath the wall.

So you can actually leave yourself high enough to get under it. And listen, Marseille never had that. And it was a brilliant spot. from the analysis, who have probably spotted that. Again, that's the sort of work you go into. And that's the sort of work as a player that I would sort of use as well. I'd look at that and again, I'm using it, but scoring from, you know, halfway. I'm not saying it should happen regular, but I was something I always looked at before a game.

Would the goalkeeper be off his line in certain situations and things like that? These are just the moments that players are thinking and something that the analysts must have spotted over what they've seen in terms of the review of Marseille games. It's funny, Ian, because, you know, I think I probably watch quite a lot of football, but not as much as you do. I now feel it almost feels more common that you do see draft excluders slash door stops than don't see them. Yeah, well, I'm just going to make a note of doorstock. Good, isn't it? For the glossary. To the commentators' view podcast.

Yeah, good one. Which will be recorded on Friday. I think it's all part and part. I mean, they don't miss a trick these days now, do they're the coaches? They've got everything. You know, it's all... I mean, look at Eddie Howe tonight. He talked before, he praised PSV about

they've got different ideas. They do things slightly out of the ordinary. He'd identified that, and they capitalised on it by putting them under pressure as they pressed them when they only had two left two at the back, you know, and that insistence of playing out from the back, it fell into Newcastle's hands. Is that analysis that Charlie's talking about?

You know, at three kicks, it set plays. The analytics that you can afford to do at the very top clubs and the quality of people you've got doing that, now. They can make a difference. It made a difference in this game tonight. I think that that analysis won the game tonight. The fact that you knew

where they were going to do that. They're going to try and play out for the back. The keeper wasn't that good way with his feet. So if you don't give him the option in your two on two up there and he tries something tricky, he could be in trouble. And it worked. And that is the quality of good analysis and you can afford that if you're a Premier League club.

Maybe that's one of the reasons why all the English teams are top of the champion. I don't think it's just Premier League clubs. I think it's all clubs that I think that's the coaching, the way the coaching is, that, you know, it's League one, League two, you know, championship, it's not just the Premier League

because of the tools. They know of a lot more money to spend it in time and, you know, people they can put it in, I'm sure. Yeah, but that's the job of the manager and the coaches to sit down and watch it. And you'll have, every club will have their analysis. They'll have an analyst, an analyst in the club. It's what, how, what depth you want to go to that as a manager.

So again, what are you used to? I'm used to seeing Premier League level in terms of Vincent Company, now Scott Parker, seeing David Moy's work. They're three big people that have been a big thing for me and my coaching career so far. So again, now I'm looking when I went into Fleetwood, I could still have the same habits as a Premier League club

and give the same detail to these players what these top players are getting. Can they carry it out? Maybe, maybe not. But as a coach, I want to be, coaching the highest level, I want to be learning from the best. So if I can give what knowledge I've learned from the best to players that are playing in league one in league two,

then that can help them improve his players as well. And we can get a bit of reaction now from Marseille. Here's the Liverpool manager, Arnislot. You know, it's always very difficult to play against Marseille because of the passionate fans. They have the quality of the players. What makes it even harder that they have such a good manager who always lets his team play so well.

And we were prepared for that. I think in the first half you could see. We took the ball three or four times of them in a very promising situation, but we couldn't find the player that was completely free. We were in four versus three situations a few times. And the one time we did find the player, it was fractionately offside. And on the ball, I think we were controlled, although I maybe could not better use that word, because that's misintercepted, has been misinterpreted a few times lately. But we could find players in between the lines, we could bring our attackers in promising positions.

And it took a while before we scored the second, because I think we had chances earlier on to score the second. And the thing that was for the first time different this season than all in all the other games, that the moment we were having a big chance to score the 2-0 that hit the post or the bar. Ten seconds later, they had a big chance. And usually this season that ball goes in and we're all complaining. But now the ball went over and we extended our lead to two and three nil. And then the performance is still the same, but the perspective about how people talk about is probably completely different.

We're going to have a very quick chat about Chelsea won Pathos Nile, which I think John Southall is what it deserves. Absolutely. This was not as straightforward as it should have been for Chelsea. It took them 78 minutes to break down an obdurate pathos, a side worth a collective 26.2 million compared to Chelsea's £1 billion. But the key fact is it is a win. The fourth on the trot here in the Champions League.

It wasn't the flamboyance of the Barcelona victory, but the same three points. The goal, after a catalogue of Chelsea missed chances, came from Moises Caicedo, 12 minutes from time, corner on the right-hand side, Cicado attacked the ball and headed in. Relief at Stamford Bridge, no more than that. On the full-time whistle, no real celebrations in the stands. Hardly a cheer. It was underwhelming, but a crucial victory. and it sets up that final game away against Napoli.

They need to be better than they were tonight. But at the moment, they're in that final automatic qualification place. Yeah, the reality part is that Chelsea are almost certainly going to need to win that because if they were to take a point for it and move on to 14, they've got one, two, three, four, five teams immediately below them on 13. So they're probably going to need to win, which we can come on to next week. But for now, I just think, fine that they've got the win. but that was a real opportunity today potentially

just to get a bit of momentum and a bit of excitement going at home. And you never know, goal difference in goal scored, no, that may be important in this as well because it's that type. Yeah, there are only one ahead of Basra and sporting, you're right.

Exactly. So the other thing about it is, remember, you've got a new manager in, new coach, I should say. And it's important that he has a good start and, you know, nobody will remember this. Everybody will remember if you get in the end of the next three points,

and that's what will stick in the mind. It's as friendly as start as you can possibly have in the Premier League. Next six league games since Liam Rossiner took over. Four of them are at home and a lot of them against teams the lower part of the league. Wolves away from home. There's a real chance of them. So in the end, if they go in a little bit of a run here, people will forget the fact that it was only 1-0 against Pathos. It was three points and that's it.

Ian, just before we let you go, I've been meaning to ask this for a while and now I've got chance. Have you done on the glossary my favourite? old school football phrase, which I've never known where it comes from and nobody says it anymore. When people used to say, that was meat and drink for the goalkeeper. Do you remember that? Yeah, I do, yeah. If we've said it, I've got a terrible memory. You'd have to go down on the... On BBC sounds? Scroll through. Scroll through. Got them all listed. Listen to them all. Back to back. You know it better than I do. Binge listen. I will do.

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