Football Daily - The Debrief: Maguire sends Man Utd through in Europa League classic

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

Manchester United produced a classic comeback, coming from 4-2 down in extra time to beat Lyon and reach the Europa League semi-finalsKelly Cates presents reaction to an extraordinary night at Old Trafford, with Andros Townsend, Rene Meulensteen and Paul Robinson assessing how Man Utd pulled off that great escape, and what that result could do for Ruben Amorim and his tenure.Tottenham are also into the semi-finals after a 1-0 win at Eintracht Frankfurt. BBC Sport’s Sami Mokbel joins the pod from Germany to assess how big a boost that win could be for Ange Postecoglu.But there was disappointment for Rangers, who exited the competition at the hands of Athletic Bilbao. Scottish football reporter Gavin Wallace talks us through that result.TIMECODES 01:00 “I’ve never seen a game like that” – Paul Robinson on the comeback 08:00 Does this show what Man Utd are capable of? 12:00 Reaction from Ruben Amorim 18:00 Tottenham’s victory over Eintracht Frankfurt and what it means for Ange Postecoglu 26:15 Rangers’ Europa League exit5 Live/BBC Sounds commentaries Saturday 19th April UWCL: Arsenal v Lyon - KO 1230 on 5 Live PREMIER LEAGUE: Everton v Manchester City - KO 1500 PREMIER LEAGUE: Aston Villa v Newcastle Utd - KO 1730Sunday 20th April PREMIER LEAGUE: Ipswich Town v Arsenal - KO 1400 PREMIER LEAGUE: Leicester City v Liverpool - KO 1630

This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. This week we'll delve into the truth about Red Bull's so-called crisis talks. Is it a load of bull? And we look ahead to Saudi Arabia. He's really good. He's going to win it. Don't worry about that. Experience F1 like never before by tuning into the Inside Track, wherever you get your podcasts. BBC Sounds music radio podcasts Daily podcasts the debrief with Kelly Kitts listen on BBC Sounds Hello and welcome on an incredible night of drama for Manchester United They're into the semi-finals of the Europa League after an astonishing comeback from 4-2 down in extra time to beat Leon 5-4 on the night, 7-6 on aggregate. Tottenham are also through

Rangers though are out, reaction from those matches to come but the only place to start is Old Trafford. Andras Townsend and René Merlinstein are with us, first though let's hear from our commentary team of Paul Robinson and Conor McNamara. And somehow Ruben Amerin, who had been 2-0 down going into the final stages of extra time, has suddenly got himself a place in the Europa League semi-final. Manchester United can still get a trophy this season, they can still make it to the Champions League next year. Crazy Paul Robertson, absolutely crazy. A special, special night at Old Trafford, really awesome,

I don't think I've ever seen a game like that. Absolute scenes here, the celebrations, the players on the pitch, Ruben Amarim coolly making his way off down the tunnel, the way that Manchester United got back in that game, they looked dead and buried, numerous occasions, when they lost that two-goal lead, you felt them, we were talking about the susceptibility, how prudent they were, how low on confidence they were, how poor they'd been all season.

Not seen that performance all season, not seen that character from them all season. The superlatives, you run out of them. That was an unbelievable football game to watch. Honestly, just wow. Wow, wow, wow for what we've just seen. You never know what you're gonna get in football. And this Manchester United team, who, let's be fair, at times this season have stank the place out. They have been criticised, they've been humiliated, they've been booed and cheered by their own supporters at times. But tonight, as football tends to do, some redemption

has probably been offered up. Lyon can't believe this, they can't believe it's been snatched away from them. They've produced heroics of their own. Two goals for 10 men, it stoppages to hold that two-goal advantage going into the 114th minute of the game. But Bruno Fernandes' penalty reduced the deficit, Khabib Menou equalised and within a minute Harry Maguire playing centre-forward headed what proved to be the winning goal as Manchester United go marching on to the Europa League semi-final. Fiction could not get anywhere near the fact we've seen tonight. It's all over here, it's finished 7-6 on aggregate.

Colin McNamara and Paul Robinson at Old Trafford for us were also joined by René Merlenstein and Andras Townsend. René, of course, assistant coach to Sir Alex Ferguson in his time at Manchester United. And I think it's his phrase that sums that match up best, which is, football, bloody hell. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, Kelly. I mean, you know, how many emotions do you have to go through? You know, Man United, they were down and out. Credit is due with Amarin

because he had to do something and he puts Harry Maguire up front and really against the runner play, Lyon gets 4-2, what with the penalty you think that's it? And then straight away when Casimero got that penalty that gave United again the belief to keep going. And you could see Lyon starting to crumble, but credit to the way that Kobe took his goal and how Maguire took his goal. Amazing, absolutely amazing. I mean, it's not a game really that needs analysis or even merits analysis. But I'm just wondering, did they finish with a front two of Maguire and Kobi Menuh? Yes they did, yes they did, yes they did and but then again it's again all making sure that you

still get the quality balls in the box you know the little combination between Bruno Fernandes Casemiro and then set up Kobi Menuh that's the quality you need the delivery into Maguire's you know Heather and he guided him perfectly in the goalkeeper, the back post. That's what you need, but you can stop... Everybody walks away in disbelief. I think even Amaril couldn't get quick enough into the dressing room just to sit there and think to himself, what's just happened? Four-all on 120 minutes,

5-4 on the night on 120 plus one and Ross sometimes it justifies logic. Leroy scored the fourth goal my mind going crazy I'm thinking like what's the full out gonna be how can United come back from this, how can Amaroun come back from this ten men and you're losing in extra time but no Man United did what Man United did old traffic got behind the team and it was absolutely, it was actually magical watching those three goals go in in the last few minutes, it was special. Conor, any sign of those Man United players leaving the pitch?

Well there's still a few of them out doing television interviews. It's funny, you know, Paul mentioned 2-0 down in Stubastogne, so many Man United fans were leaving for the exits, now it's like they don't want to leave. They want the selfies, the pictures to send to their friends. I was there the night that crazy comeback when Harry Maguire scored Man United's 7th goal of the tie to win it to the death, on a night when they seemed to be going out and Paul said, we've got to go down the second-hand Superlative Shop tomorrow because we ran out of these a long time ago.

That was absolutely bonkers. But yeah, Harry Maguire is out there, beaming from ear to ear. Kabi Meynau is out there. They finish as the makeshift strike force. You know, poor old Rasmus Hoiland and the injured Joshua Xerxi will be looking at themselves. They've played up front all season and have struggled to score. Meynau and Maguire have become the new strike force for a successful Manchester United victory tonight.

Conor, you said when Lyon scored 4-2, they say they played this game like a classical violin. They hit every note, they hit every note perfectly. What happened with the violin? Twang, twang! I think all the strings of the windows went twang! There'll be a few Manchester United fans playing a tiny violin for Lyon this evening after that defeat at the hands of Manchester United. I'm just watching Harry Maguire down and do some television interviews. As his copy maning, Maguire's starting to take on the elder statesman role and

starting to kind of look ahead to the the semi-final. Kobi Maynard just looks absolutely stunned by what he's just witnessed at Old Trafford and sometimes Paul you get a sense inside of ground that momentum is shifting but with a two-goal deficit going into the 114th minute, which is when Bruno Fernandes scored the penalty, it didn't feel like that was coming for Manchester United. No, and when they got themselves back into the game, Leon at two-all, it certainly looked like there was only going to be one winner of the game the way that Manchester United

were dropping off, and even when Leon went down to ten men in the first period of extra time, and they got that goal, it was almost incredible to think from that point on that Manchester United could come back the way that they did. And as Conor said, this place has seen some special European nights over the years, and some special Premier League nights over the years, and these fans have been starved of it, they've not seen a lot this season, and they've not seen a lot in recent years, and the outpouring of emotion and celebration,

it was something to behold, the celebrations inside Old Trafford, that, by the way, are still going on. Yeah, I don't think they'll be leaving for a while yet, the students are going to be really struggling to get those Manchester United fans out of the ground. But there are moments in that game, René, where we saw what this Manchester United are capable of for good and for bad. We saw when they're focused, when they're determined, when they're driven, when they use the crowd and use that momentum, how effective they can be, but also how easily it can slip away.

Unbelievable. The first half, it was brilliant. Very good, great intent. There was hunger. There was a good tactical execution of the plan, they get the noses in front, they score two good goals and you think, listen, they will be cruising through and then suddenly it slips away and it shows their fragility throughout the whole of the second half and then again they have to rise themselves up. It typifies Manchester United's season so far. What happened, René, because I had one eye on the Spurs game and at half-time I thought United had this wrapped up and then all of a sudden it was a completely different man, United side, that came out in the second half.

What was the change? Well, I think the biggest problem is that when you go into that game that with a confident 2-0 lead you think to yourself well let's just manage the game it's all that you take the foot a bit of the pedal because I think they lost a little bit of intensity in terms of you know closing Leon down and they're giving too easy possession and then too easy situations to get up to the pitch and as soon as when that first goal went in you saw really the men united what we've seen so often in the Premier League as well. As mentioned that Harry Maguire and

Kobi Menuh have been down doing their TV interviews, Harry Maguire said we made really hard work of it, which yes they definitely did. Even in the second half he said we had chances to go 3-0 up, 4-2 down an extra time, nowhere near good enough. We opened ourselves up too much but we dug in, showed great spirit and he said that's what this stadium does. And then Kobi Menu talking about what an amazing comeback it was. He said I tried to carry the energy and feed off the rest of the players and then he talks about that goal that he scored. His was the goal that made it 4-4. He said when the ball drops to you there, a yard feels like a mile. You've just got to remain calm and slot it and that's what I did. And he talks about the win bringing

momentum. He said we're rolling the snowball, it's getting bigger and bigger and we want to go all the way. And that's what they need to do here here Rene. This is not, this can't be a one-off result for Manchester United at the quarterfinal stage. They're just maybe three games away now from lifting European silverware at the end of the season and qualifying for the Champions League. The one thing what those games do and what you need to draw from it is you need to look back with the team and the Amarim with the staff and draw all the good things out of it in terms of everything that was good about this game.

You know, don't focus too much about the negatives that we've had, but listen guys, this is what we want to see in week in week out. Every performance, you've got two more games to get into the final. Use all that positivity that you've drawn from this game, all the positive things in terms of the roadway but this game turned out to be a spectacle that you know you get so often at certain times in in in certain leagues and thing but again the other semi-final will be a complete different game again you know and again we don't know what we're gonna get at times.

Let's hear some reaction then from Old Trafford here's a very happy Manchester and again, we don't know what we're going to get at times. Let's hear some reaction then from Old Trafford. Here's a very happy Manchester United head coach Ruben Amerin. That's why we like this sport so much and all the frustration that the coach has in this kind of season, the frustration, the bad moments. When you have moments like this, it's all worth it. But then you finish the game, you calm down and you start thinking that we have a game on Sunday and then we have to see all the players if they are fit to play because we need to focus a lot on the Europa League.

I think these kinds of moments can help a lot of players in this kind of season, in this kind of context. These kinds of moments can create some connection between the fans and the players and we can forget for a few minutes what kind of season we are having. But again, today is a good feeling but tomorrow we need to start everything again. So we need to focus on the next game, to focus on the players if they are fit to play. We have to take a risk to save some players. Because if you look at our season, the most important thing is clear for everybody is to is Europa League.

I'm just wondering, I mean we talk about nobody wanting to leave that stadium at Manchester United. I just wonder Paul, having been there and having witnessed it and having seen how much the players drew on that energy from the crowd, they've both mentioned it, Harry Maguire and Kobi Menuh, if that is the kind of thing that can, carry them through to the end of this competition. I mean, maybe not even in the league games, of course they'll want those performances and those results to come as well. But can it carry them all the way, do you think?

Listen, the league games are irrelevant for Manchester United. You know, they're sat, what, the 14th in the Premier League at the moment, 17 points off six plays, 17 points of Ipswich, they're not going anywhere in the league this season. It's been a poor campaign for them, but nights like tonight, he's got to put everything into this Europa League now. I think we saw that tonight, he said that himself before the game. He's even said it in his programme notes tonight,

emphasised the importance of this game and how the progression in this Europa League, because it gives them the Champions League, gives them the opportunity of the Champions League football next season, and also a trophy. And I think he's got to focus on that. But you're right with the league results. The league results are not important, but it's the performances around the Europa League games. I've never seen an atmosphere in recent times like that in Old Trafford tonight. The way that the supporters played their part, it's hard as a player not to draw on that. It feeds its infectious.

In the same way as a negative attitude feeds down onto the pitch as well. Because when you're not playing well, when Manchester United are not playing well, if a ball goes astray or a misplaced pass, all of a sudden, oh, moans and groans after 20 minutes. That anxiety filters down onto the pitch. So players feed off both negative and positive energy,

but there's only positive energy in that stadium tonight. One of the players who celebrated most energetically and celebrated with his manager Ruben Amerin was Andre Onana and I want to ask you about him Paul because we talked about him so much before the game and how much pressure there was on him and this might be an odd question for a goalkeeper who's just conceded four goals over 120 minutes. But he actually played well and made some good saves in the game. Yeah, he played okay, but he had a decent game tonight. The spotlight was obviously gonna be on him.

And every goal that he does concede now is scrutinized. But if you ever meet Andre Onana, he's such a fun, loving character, and he's a great bloke. I don I don't if ever spent time in his company. He's very very hard to dislike him So when you you you're not criticizing on a personal level you criticize on a professional level on performance And you actually really wanted him to play well tonight And he did that tonight the thing that you could have asked for him would have been just a quiet game Slip under the radar get back into that number one slot and go unnoticed tonight, and that's exactly what he did. He did that in the same time as making some really good saves

and he played his part in the Manchester United victory tonight. And you could see the release of emotion from him as well when the goals went in and the big hug with his manager at the end was like, OK, friends again, let's move on. Yes, it's all water under the bridge, everybody's friends after a victory like that one. Andros, I know you were focusing a lot on the Frankfurt game against Tottenham, Yes, it's all water under the bridge. Everybody's friends after a victory like that one. Andros, I know you were focusing a lot on the Frankfurt game against Tottenham, who are also through

to the semi-finals of the Europa League in much less dramatic circumstances. But we now know that we have those teams in there. We now know who the opponents will be for both Manchester United and for Tottenham. Do you think from what you've seen of the Europa League so far this season that Manchester United or Tottenham could go all the way in this competition? You know what, it'd be the most Spursy thing ever to get to the semi-final of the Europa League and lead to, what is it, Bodo Glimped? Yep.

Yeah. I don't want to put them down too much, buturs have to win that surely, they have to get into the final. I'm a little bit excited but he has a long way to go obviously to get to the semi-final for them, to beat Lazio over two legs, it's not an easy thing so I'm sure it's going to be a difficult couple of games. Yeah it could potentially be difficult but for now Manchester United are celebrating, reaching the semi-finals of the Europa League. Hello and welcome to the Inside Track, the Formula One podcast with exclusive access to Red Bull Racing. I'm broadcaster and Formula One fan Rick Edwards. And I'm sports journalist Matt Magendie. Each week we break down the latest F1 news,

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Frankfurt. It means a 2-1 victory on aggregate. Former Spurs midfielder Andras Townsend is with us, as is the BBC senior football correspondent Sammy Mockbell, who is out in Frankfurt. And Sammy, such a difficult season and Tottenham fans finally have something to cheer. Yeah, no, listen, Kelly, it's a big night for Tottenham. It's a big night for Angepros to Coghlu. I was in his press conference last night where he vowed to fight tooth and nail for a place to replace in the semi finals, not because he

would save his job or would have any kind of bearing on his job security, but strictly because he wanted the honour of taking Tottenham into a European semi-final. And tonight he delivered on that promise and so did his team. It wasn't the sort of performance that you would necessarily associate with an Aijs Postel Koglu side. It wasn't necessarily front football. They were dogged, they were determined, they were defensively sound and solid. And at the end of the night, Kelly, they got the job done and then they're in the semi-final and there is still hope there and life at the end of the tunnel.

There is an irony, isn't there, Andros, that for all the talk about a certain style of play for all the talk about Spurs being great to watch under Antipas de Cogli when he came in as manager, it's a performance like this that gets them into the semi-final of the Europa League. Yeah it was a Mourinho-Conte type performance. But it needed to be, I said to Kelly at halfime that Frankfurt's only threat was on the counter-attack when they had comfortable possession They weren't really troubling Spurs. So what Spurs did in the second half, they stopped committing men forward They got men behind the ball four five one five four one whatever you want to call it and they just took away Frankfurt's fret and Franks had a couple of chances, but no real chances So it was it was what Spurs needed to do to get into a semi-final and finally I think the penny has dropped for Spurs that they can change in certain

moments of games to win football matches and they did that tonight. Let's talk about the incident that led to the the penalty because it's a it's a worry for James Madison who had to be taken off after clashing with the the Frankfurt keeper. I can imagine, and we might be able to shed a little bit of light on it having heard the commentary Sammy, but I can imagine inside the ground you would have been completely perplexed as to why that wasn't given as a penalty immediately. In the first place, I was absolutely flabbergasted. It wasn't quite as bad but it had echoes of the FA Cup one with John Philippe Mateta against Millwall a few weeks ago. I looked at it and I immediately thought

it was a penalty. The goalkeeper careered into James Madison who, fair play to him, he tried to carry on, didn't he, to try and get through the rest of the first half, but he just couldn't continue. But why that sequence of play had to be viewed again by the VAR, I am at a loss to explain because I think to everyone in the stadium and probably everyone at home, that was as clear a penalty as you'll see. Andros, I think just for the referee had said in terms of the on field decision that he felt that it was just a coming together if a strong one rather than a foul. Yeah I think it's only really the last year or so that VAR has started giving that as a penalty because before then like the referee said the keepers are so protected they'd normally

view that as just a coming together, whereas you look at it, Madison's got to the ball first, and the keepers just clattered into him. Any other position on the pitch, if that's a defender, straight away it's a penalty. But goalkeepers are a protected species. It's only really the last year or so, VAR started to get involved in incidents like these,

but it has to be a penalty. Like Madison, I hope he's okay, but it could have been a serious, serious injury. Yeah, it could have been a really serious injury to him, and we hope that he continues his recovery from that. And Dominic Salanchi, the coolest man on the pitch, stepping up to take the penalty. But given the way that this season's gone, given his run of form with injury and coming in and out of the team, for him to go up and have that moment, it was a big one for him, Sammy.

Yeah, he gave himself a couple of puffs out of the cheeks, didn't he? He just prepared himself for what was to come, but he took it really well. That was a real pressure moment. And it was the decisive moment of the evening. You're absolutely right. I'm not sure when he paid 65 million pounds for his services at the start of this season, that they would have expected for him to have hit this lull.

But he's such a hard worker for the team. He gives everything for the team. He brings other people into play and he's such a grafter and I think he deserves that moment. And I know Ansh Postokoglu thinks very, very highly of Dominic Salanke and he defends him to the hilt, certainly in public. And I think tonight... Could you see what happened before the penalty? Because on the TV screen it looked like Tell was holding the ball for a while and Postokoglu was screaming onto the pitch to get Salanke to take it.

Was there sort of a confrontation before that? No, I did notice that Matias Tell was holding the ball and I was like, oh that's interesting, is he going to take that? But there didn't seem to be any sort of kerfuffle between the two players when Dominic stepped forward and took it. So I think that passed without incident, Andros. Andros, where do spurs go from here? How do they use this victory? It's not an easy question to answer, is it? Listen, I think it's very simple now. They have to put all the eggs into the Europa League basket. They have to use the Premier League to get players in the best shape as possible

to win this competition. I was very surprised even against Wolves with Angie's selection and how many key players he did play with such an important game tonight against Frankfurt. But now it's top of the 17th totally 17 who cares they need to win this competition so they have to do whatever they need to do to win this competition. And Sami what do you think it means for Anshposta Koglu do you feel that they're edging towards a decision and does that have any or does European success have any bearing on what that decision might be? I think in the absolute immediate future it certainly buys him some time. I can't foresee a scenario now where Ange-Potter Coghlu loses his job before the semi-final. I

think what happens in the rest of the Europa League campaign will be a factor. But I don't believe it is the only factor when Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy comes to decide, he may have already made the decision, but ultimately decides whether he wants to replace Anshprostokoglu ahead of next season. I think there are various factors at play here, you know, his relationships with the players, which I think we saw at the end of the game, the way they celebrated together as a team, including the manager. There seems to be a strong bond there within that squad. But I think the other factor will be his connection with the supporters, which has been called into question in recent weeks as well.

He said after the game, Ange Postococli, there's been a lot of noise around the team, but we've been focused on us. Super proud of it is what he said in terms of that performance and that victory, Andross. And for one night at least Tottenham have managed to keep out the noise. I think he's done that very well. He's kept the outside noise out. He's protected his players, sort of Mourinho, like he's protected his players. He's gone to war with the media, the pundits, the presenters. He's gone to war with the media, the pundits, the presenters, he's gone to war with everyone, the fans, he's taken it all himself and he's taken the

pressure off the players who, for me, are probably the ones who should be under fire more than the managers. So he's done that brilliantly and hopefully the players can repay that faith and get him to a trophy which he says he always gets in his second season so let's see. Andras and Sami thank you very much for joining us. Cheers. Rangers run in the competition is over they lost 2-0 at Athletic Bilbao who go through by that score line on aggregate. Let's bring in Gavin Wallace who was watching. Look this

is a side with a 100% record at home in this competition. How did Rangers play in the game in Bilbao? I thought they played okay actually tonight, maybe a little bit sloppy at time with the ball, did the occasion get to them maybe, I'm not sure but decisions didn't quite go their way to that. I think the Rangers fans that were there, Kelly could go away with their heads held high, it maybe just wasn't to be. Their season obviously completely stops now because they can't do anything domestically. This was a great chance, but you'll look maybe at the second goal, James Tavaneer's already put his hands up to say that he's

let Nico Williams lose them to get that header in. The penalty is just up, it's just, it's clever from Athletic Club, they get in front, you get in front of John Suta and then obviously Sanset steps up and sticks it away. But I think overall, I mean when you think about it as well, that's only the second time Rangers have lost away from home in this competition. The other time obviously was against Manchester United and of course Athletic Club Kelly are the tournament favourites. So I think Rangers overall will be reasonably happy at the progression in this competition once the hut and the dust settles down from this game. And as much as they'll look at the the way in which they conceded the goals will they also look at some missed opportunities as well Gavin? Yeah I think they will I think the big thing tonight is maybe

what 15, 16 minutes gone. Serial Dessels has got a real good chance the ball takes a bit of a ricochet goes towards the goalkeeper but Vivian pulls him so hard that he goes down, but the entire front of his shirt comes off. You don't see the sponsor on the front. In fact, you can actually see the kind of sports bra type thing that his GPS holder goes in. That's how bad it was. But we had no VAR, we had no intervention from a referee, no penalty. And then there was a handball in the second half, which Rangers are convinced as well should have had two penalties.

That would probably change the game if they score from them, but we saw last week that we don't always score penalties with Liam Kelly's heroics last week, but I feel maybe it just was from that point on maybe things were just against them, but they had some chances and Raskin rattled one off the post as well, so they have had a couple of chances tonight, but maybe it just wasn't their evening. some chances and Raskin rattled one off the post as well. So they have had a couple of chances tonight, but maybe just wasn't their evening. In amongst all the drama, Chelsea had a more serene route into the semi-finals of the Conference League.

They lost 2-1 at home to Legia Warsaw, but they go through 4-2 on aggregate. They'll face Durgarden of Sweden in the semi-finals. And that is it for this episode of the Football Daily. My thanks to Connor, Paul, René, Andros, Sammy and Gavin. We'll be back tomorrow with the latest episode of the Commentators' View, taking you through a fantastic week of European football story of the century. It's pandemonium, it's ecstasy.

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