Football Daily - UCL Debrief: A faultless night for Premier League sides in Europe

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

Arsenal continued their perfect start to the Champions League this season with a 4-0 win against Atletico Madrid, Manchester City picked up their first away win in the competition since last October a...gainst Villarreal thanks to yet another goal from Erling Haaland, and Anthony Gordon put on a man of the match display as Newcastle beat Benfica 3-0 at St James’ Park. Kelly Cates is joined by Andros Townsend, Guillem Balague, Glenn Murray and Ian Dennis to reflect on a great night for the English clubs in the Champions League. There’s reaction to the news the La Liga match between Barcelona and Villarreal that was due to take place in Miami is off after opposition from fans and player protests at the weekend. John Bennett joins us to talk about some incredible high scoring games, including Paris Saint Germain’s 7-2 win over Bayer Leverkusen, on a night where there were 43 goals scored across the competition. Plus, we hear from Sean Dyche after he was appointed Nottingham Forest manager. Timecodes: 00:44 – Arsenal 4-0 Atletico Madrid 15:27 – Newcastle United 3-0 Benfica 19:45 – Villarreal 0-2 Manchester City 23:50 – La Liga cancel Miami game 26:41 – A 43-goal night in the Champions League 29:05 – Sean Dyche interviewCommentaries this week: Wednesday 22nd October CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: Chelsea v Ajax 2000 KO - 5 LIVEThursday 23rd October EUROPA LEAGUE: Brann v Rangers 1745 KO - SPORTS EXTRA CONFERENCE LEAGUE: AEK Athens v Aberdeen 1745 KO - SPORTS EXTRA 2 EUROPA LEAGUE: Celtic v Sturm Graz 2000 KO - SPORTS EXTRASaturday 25th October PREMIER LEAGUE: Chelsea v Sunderland 1500 KO - 5 LIVE PREMIER LEAGUE: Newcastle v Fulham 1500 KO - SPORTS EXTRA PREMIER LEAGUE: Manchester United v Brighton 1730 KO - 5 LIVE WOMENS INTERNATIONALS: England v Brazil 1730 KO - SPORTS EXTRASunday 26th October PREMIER LEAGUE: Arsenal v Crystal Palace 1400 KO - 5 LIVE PREMIER LEAGUE: Aston Villa v Manchester City 1400 KO - SPORTS EXTRA PREMIER LEAGUE: Bournemouth v Nottingham Forest 1400 KO - SPORTS EXTRA 2 PREMIER LEAGUE: Wolves v Burnley 1400 KO - SPORTS EXTRA 3 PREMIER LEAGUE: Everton v Spurs 1630 KO - 5 LIVE

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On the Football Daily podcast, Champions League debrief with Kelly Cates. It's been a great night for the English sides in the Champions League. Arsenal continued their 100% start to the competition. They got a 4-0 win against Atlatico Madrid. Manchester City got their first Champions League win away from home since last October against Villarreal and Newcastle with a home win in the Champions League for the first time in a couple of years with Benfica victory, 3-0, it finished. We will round it all up in the next half an hour.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Andros Townsend and Guillain Ballagay are with us, our commentary team at the Emirates, Glenn Murray and Ian Dennis. So does that impressive scoreline tell the whole story, Ian? Possibly not, no, but Arsenal blew Athletica and Madrid away with four goals in 13 second half minutes to maintain their perfect start in the Champions League. However, before that, the game was in the balance.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Alvarez had struck the crossbar just before the recent. start. Well, Simeone in the first half, shot wide with an open goal after Raya got himself caught in a bit of a problem. But in that first half, also, as they had hit the crossbar, Martinelli had a goal disallowed. But there was no stopping Arsenal once they'd scored. A Gabriel header, Martinelli's first time finish, and two from Yorkeresh. One, a scruffy effort, the second of the far post header to end what was a mini-gold drought. Three wins from three, and still Arsenal are yet to concede in the league phase. And the phase of that game where they scored those four goals,
Starting point is 00:01:30 Arsenal absolutely ruthless, Glenn. Yeah, they were. They were indeed. Once they got their noses in front, they smelt the blood. They just showed an assurance of professionalism, a maturity, actually, I think maturity is probably the right word. And just like Denos said on a number of occasions, blew Athletical away.
Starting point is 00:01:51 And Athletical had nothing to hang on to at that point then. So they did well when the game was, was nil-nil. They even threatened to take the lead with Alvarez early on in the second half. But like we say, once Arsenal went in front, there was only going to be one winner of this tie. And Andros, Glenn used the word maturity there. Patience might be another word that you can use about Arsenal in that game. Is that because they know defensively are solid, they're yet to concede in this competition, and because they know they always have that threat from set pieces.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head. They always know no matter how well a team is defending like Athletica were in the first half. It just takes one moment, whether that be from open play or from set piece. Today it was from a set piece. But like you said, they were very, very patient. They weren't committing too many men forward and leaving themselves exposed on the countertacks. So a lot didn't really have much to feed off on the counter attack. So it was a very, very professional person.
Starting point is 00:02:52 performance and in the end they got their reward. Probably a bit fortunate to score the four, but they definitely got their reward in the end. Yeah, we should point out as well. Only two of the four were from set plays for Arsenal. The two from open play in that game, including a couple for Jokores in that game. And we'll get your thoughts on him
Starting point is 00:03:09 and him breaking that duck that he's had for a while with no goals in his previous seven games. But in terms of the balance of the game, Guillem, it was pretty even right up. Well, maybe until just before that first goal. It was Martinelli's fault on your Ente and not the other way around. I keep saying this because everything had to go Atlantic-Mari way for them to get something out of it. Absolutely everything, including, as managers call it, the little details.
Starting point is 00:03:37 It should have been given a foul to Aletico-Madrid. But you all given too much credit to Aletico-Madrid. Maybe because you didn't expect them to play this way at the Emirates, the first goal came in the minute 56. So it wasn't that, you know, it was in the last 10 minutes that they collapsed. They collapsed less than an hour of game played. And then once that happened in 30 minutes, they considered all the three goals. You're talking about a team that's supposed to, with 100 million net spend this year, and 168 million with the players they've got, to actually be at another level,
Starting point is 00:04:09 but they just don't have enough goals in them. They just don't defend enough. They're not mature enough having got the personality to change things around or slow things around. They conceded 1-0 and you think, okay, the old Aletico Madrid, if you like, it would have been there's no more game until we decide that is a game. None of that. So, yeah, you're very generous, but destroy the Atlantic Madrid with me, please,
Starting point is 00:04:32 because they deserve it. Do you think, though, obviously, we all know what happened after the first goal, but do you think before the first goal, it was a perfect away performance in the Champions League, or do you still expect better from Athletico even though the score was nil-nil? You actually won a perfect performance. You would have scored in the first, 56 minutes, maybe with the two or three chances they had. But you see where the goals are going to come from
Starting point is 00:04:57 is Julian Alvarez. Who else? Don't know. Because they just don't have it in midfielders. They don't have any in wingers. It's just not enough to beat the most informed team in Europe. By the way, it's almost impossible to score against Arsenal. And they have the ability to actually score in set pieces.
Starting point is 00:05:16 and they dominate the game in every single part of it. It's actually a solid team. Let's think Madrid are not at that level. They're perhaps one of the top 10 teams in Europe, if that. But certainly, I don't see them in quarters or semis. They don't have it in them. And also, we've got Jacques, Chaucer's back up and scoring, Glenn.
Starting point is 00:05:37 After a long goal drought for him, he's finally got his fourth and fifth goals of the season. Yeah, do you know what? I was really impressed by his attitude. and you can feel the Arsenal fans willing him to do well here. He was closing down. He was a real kind of catalyst for them. I think when you're in midfield playing,
Starting point is 00:05:57 you see your forward player closing down with that intensity. It kind of drags you along. And at times in the game, he was that. But he added that goal to his game, which was massive. And listen, it wasn't pretty, but it doesn't matter. He hit the back of the net and he gave him that confidence. And all of a sudden, he's in the right place, at the right time. and Gabriel heads that back across.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Again, it wasn't a pretty goal. I think he almost, I think he uses his thigh, his hip sort of thing. It's like a motion where he thrusts it into the back of the net. But it doesn't matter. He walks away two goals. I've seen him collect man in the match. And as far as he's concerned, that confidence in himself and his teammate him as well is just growing all the time.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Glenn, from a striker's point of view, do you feel with Yoccarez, even when he goes through spells without scorer, scoring, I think it was six or seven games he hasn't scored. It's not as bad because he offers so much. He's an amazing pressure of the football. He works so hard down the side for his side. Do you think it's not as important that he's not scoring because he is still offering in other areas or as a striker you always defined by your goals? I mean, I think it boils down to how he's a person feels about it. But me as a former striker, I'd want to score goals. I mean, I could run around out there
Starting point is 00:07:13 I could be a platform and I could I could play well if I didn't get a goal it didn't quite feel the same I mean you could see what he meant to him especially that second goal tonight when he wheels away with Gabrielle and kind of that pressure has been lifted and yeah he does offer something and that is a real positive when you've got a number nine that that even if he isn't scoring is affecting the way the opposition play but from a personal point of view you always want to get that that that goal but his work rate his work rate for the team would have been appreciated by Mikhail Arteta before his two goals. We were, you know, the supporters were applauding him even before he scored his two goals for he's running off the ball. Yeah, and I think, I think when things maybe aren't going as well as what you would like in front of goal, then to be able to show that ability to do that and that willingness to do that, then, well, they always say if you're not scoring, you take you back to basics, you hold the ball up, you work hard for your team, and then you find your
Starting point is 00:08:09 feet and the goal will come and this evening a couple, Kim. Interesting in terms of the team selection, Guillem, for this one. And that Artetta only made a couple of changes. We thought that maybe with the additions that came over the summer, this was the kind of occasion on which Artetta would be able to use his squad. He did manage to do that in the latter stages of the match, having taken that 4-0 lead. Do you expect there's going to be a bit more use of that squad as the season goes on?
Starting point is 00:08:38 Because he started with Miles Lewis Skelly, with Martinelli, who were getting regular starts towards the end of last, last season, but have maybe fallen out of favor a little bit in the early stages of this one. And when somebody drops a little bit at the level and somebody else is waiting in the bench to play, then he will play. You cannot create a culture, as we described earlier, where every step you give in the training ground is a competition to show that you are good, that you are improving, that you understand what's been demanded. And then all of a sudden say, well, let's let the go, Madrid, let's just play five or six that are no regulars. It just doesn't work like that.
Starting point is 00:09:11 you're going to have to earn your place. This is the message to everyone, including in a game like this. And that's, as I said, that's what he has created there. And that's why he wanted Gabriel Haines and Andrea Berta's. And he himself is a bad loser and a competitive man. And he feels, as I said earlier, that there's that step that Arsenal couldn't give and needed other people to help him. But certainly, he was going to maintain that need of being very, very demanding
Starting point is 00:09:40 at all levels in the evening game. And also I want to talk as well about the importance of that central defensive pairing
Starting point is 00:09:48 and in particular about Gabrielle because not only have they got that that record of not conceding in their opening three games
Starting point is 00:09:55 of this Champions League campaign but no centreback in Europe's top five leagues has scored more goals than Gabrielle since 2020
Starting point is 00:10:03 he's got 22 goals in that time well yeah they're so important but I think it's a collective effort
Starting point is 00:10:10 whether it's califuri playing left back timber right back they all help out rice sitting as a number six they all sort of help out collectively and it allows that the forward players to be forward players to go and create knowing they've got the security of not only the two centre backs but one of the left or right back dropping in as a centre half in the number six as well so it really is alteta really has assembled an amazing squad with they have a bit of everything and you're starting to see that at the minute Like Guillaume said, it's probably the most informed team in Europe in world football at the moment. Yeah, they look so solid, Glenn, defensively. I mean, I know that's not the headline from a game in which they've scored four goals,
Starting point is 00:10:50 but they also kept a clean sheet. No, but they've got a really nice balance about them that they don't. So I think there was a tendency or there can be a tendency when the game is like it was tonight to maybe just kind of push a little bit and commit a little bit going forward and then leave that back door open. and that's one thing Arsenal never do. They're so strong defensively and kind of the two centrebacks.
Starting point is 00:11:15 They're the catalysts of that. And even when Oblak went long to Soloff and Solov's a big physical presence, they won the first ball every single time Arsenal. They just bullied them. And that is what they do. I think they show both from a defensive point of view and in the opposition box,
Starting point is 00:11:34 they show a real desire to win those first contacts. And Kelly, while you say it's not a head, I do think it's a factor because Arsenal, they've won their last 15 games now at home in UEFA competition, either in the group stages or league phase. And by doing so, they've kept 12 successive clean sheets. So this is a real fortress now. And that means it's 18 hours and 43 minutes since they last conceded. So that is a huge, huge factor. And it's quite intimidating, I think, for teams now to come here to a sellout crowd and to try and compete with Arsenal.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Yeah, and And Drosson and Glenmold, though, that's going to give their forwards a lot of confidence that if they do manage to get a goal in that game, it could potentially prove to be the decisive goal. So, Arsenal, one of the favourites to win the Champions League coming into this game, is absolutely nothing from this game to suggest that that would change. It's very early. We're three games into the tournament. We're only in October. How do you rate their chances of maybe lifting this trophy? Glenn come the end of the season? Well, I think when you assess them, both in the Champions League and the Premier League, they're given themselves a really good platform,
Starting point is 00:12:46 especially for these busy months coming up. Once this next international breaks out of the way, then you're really in the thick of the season. That's when you've got, if you have a bad run then, it can be really, it can really harm your chances. So they're giving themselves an opportunity here where they can rest players
Starting point is 00:13:03 and they can keep players in the best physical, best physical kind of condition they can be in. How do I rate their chances of the competition? Listen, this is a wonderful competition. It's towards the end. It's the best of the best competing to win. And it's about moments. I think they'll be in the mix.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I think they'll go deep into the competition. But whether I think they can win it, I mean, a whole horse can win it. I would express a word of caution. I was here at the start of October last year. And Paris Saint-Germain came here, lost 2-0. and Paris Saint-German that night I don't think Dembele had
Starting point is 00:13:40 travelled they were a little bit out of sorts they were certainly tame and yet they were able to then go on in the second half of the season and be as dominating and as impressive as they were to win the European title so I still think there's a long way to go in the competition and yet I think that
Starting point is 00:13:55 at least five English sides should win the quarterfinals three in the seven finals and should be two finalists that come from the Premier League no I mean finally no but finally you are actually confirming your financial power into good organization, good selection of players, looking for players for their profile, and not just because of the name, and making teams, because all of a sudden you're patient as well with your coaches, to actually go to the level that
Starting point is 00:14:23 you've got. And right now, there is no better sites in Europe than taking perhaps via Munich, which we'll have to see with the bigger sites on PSG, but right now they're struggling with injuries and tiredness because they haven't had a preseason. So say only by in Munich, the rest has to be English sides. So yeah, no pressure, but it'll be a disappointment not to see you copy them all the semi-finalists this year. I'm Maisie Adam and I'm Susie Ruffel. And we host the women's football podcast, Big Kick Energy.
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Starting point is 00:15:16 yeah listen now on BBC Sounds yeah you should okay cool on the football daily podcast Champions League debrief with Kelly Kate's a man of the match performance from Anthony Gordon and two goals from Harvey Barnes so Newcastle United beat Benfica 3-0 back to back Wednesday in the Champions League
Starting point is 00:15:34 after their opening defeat by Barcelona. Aili Barber is at St. James's Park for us. And Ailey, we did talk about the importance of Nick Voltemada in the buildup to this game. Turns out it was all about the wingers. It was. Nick Volta mater, he wasn't hugely influential in the game. He did drop a bit deeper.
Starting point is 00:15:53 He linked up really well. But the pace of Anthony Gordon and Jacob Murphy and then Harvey Barnes when he came on, they just caused all sorts of problems for Benfica and Newcastle. The first half, It was more even. Newcastle still dominated, had that Anthony Gordon goal at the break. But the second half, it was all about Newcastle. They absolutely played Benfica off the park.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Harvey Barnes getting a couple coming off the bench. One of them, his first superbly assisted from Nick Pope. You have to try and watch this one back on the highlights tomorrow night. A brilliant throw from the goalkeeper. And Barnes just showed great composure with both his finishes. Anthony Gordon, as well, instrumental in playing the ball through for Harvey Barnes' second goal and Newcastle's third. It was a really dominant performance. It was a performance loved by the crowd here inside St. James's Park.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And a very comfortable night for them. And yeah, like you say, back-to-back wins for the first time in 22 years and a win at home for the first time in four games in the Champions League. And Ross, you played with Anthony Gordon at Everton. He's having a fantastic time for England. He's having a fantastic time for Newcastle. He's just scored tonight in the Champions League at St. James's Park. Just tell us a bit about the player that you know.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Well, when I first joined Everton, he was a young lad, and you could see he had quality. He had immense pace, obviously, but he didn't really work hard enough. In a modern-day winger, you need to, out of possession, you need to be the first line of press, and he wasn't doing that. And then it sort of clicked for him. He started working on. He started getting in the team. He started getting joy. The fans loved him.
Starting point is 00:17:24 But even still, by the time Newcastle bought him for 50 million, I think Everton fans were thinking, right, we don't want him to go, but I think we've got the better end of the deal here. familiar for Anthony Gordon. It's a still. But since then, he's just put it all together. He's got the quality. He's got the consistency, the pace. Out of possession. For me, he's one of the best in the Premier League in his position. And it's all just come together for him. At the age of 24, he has absolutely everything. The world is oyster now for club and for country going into the Summer's World Cup. Any thoughts on a game coming down to the two wingers? You love to see it, don't you, Andrews? It's the most important position on the pitch to wing as they do everything. They provide the goals, they score the goals, they have to defend.
Starting point is 00:18:07 It's a very tough position, it's not easy. They get given the hardest, or you get given the hardest job, isn't it? Because it's like, we're going to create all the conditions for you to be in front of the defender, go and beat him. Yeah, right, okay. As if it was that easy, that's the hardest thing, isn't it? Especially today's football. And Ailey, the other thing to point out from this game is the assist for Harvey Barnes' first goal, so Newcastle's second goal. That throw from Nick Pope was measured at 65 yards.
Starting point is 00:18:33 which is just incredible. So they've all been waxing lyrical, I think, in their post-match interviews about him. It was brilliant, honestly. And half the players went to Nick Pope rather than going to Harvey Barnes to celebrate because it was an unbelievable throw. Really quick thinking as well
Starting point is 00:18:49 because he plucked the ball out of the air. He just looked up. He must have just seen Harvey Barnes and he absolutely launched it down the pitch. And straight over the Benfica's back line, Harvey Barnes completely aware of everything. that was going on. He still had a lot to do, Harvey Barnes, and he hadn't been on the
Starting point is 00:19:07 pitch for long. So really good composure to take his time, wait for the goalkeeper to come out, play it across to the far post, and they got a little knick off the post just to make it look even better. But great goal, and Harvey Barnes' second goal as well. The little ball through from Anthony Gordon
Starting point is 00:19:22 was brilliant. All three of Newcastle's goals were really good, and Anthony Gordon, by far the best player on the pitch. He did everything. He defended from the front. He was back helping out at the He was driving them up the pitch, taking on players and a goal and an assist as well. Great performance from him. Ailey, thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Good to talk to you. Newcastle with a 3-0 victory against Benfica. And Manchester City got their first Champions League win away from home since last October against Villarreal. John Acres was watching this one for us. Less eventful in the second half, John, but still very professional from Manchester City. Very comfortable indeed for City. They were excellent throughout. but what about Erling Harland?
Starting point is 00:20:03 Another goal for him. 17 minutes in. Rico Lewis, who was excellent in the game. Guardiola's just been talking about him in his post-match press conference just saying how good he is. He says he loves this player. His low cross into Harlan just outside the six-yard box. Right-footed, first-time finish.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Just gone in front of the defender and lashed it in. Kind of came off his shin a little bit, but still an excellent finish. Really good movement from Harlan. So some of the stats, that's 12 goals. in 12 games for club and country now, 24 goals in 14 games for club and country this season. It is some streak that he's on. And then when Bernardo Silver scored,
Starting point is 00:20:45 that's the first other city player that scored since September the 27th with a header after a Savino cross, who was really dangerous down the right all game. Via Real really didn't have much of an answer for it. Gay had a shot saved by Donna Ruma, a good save. Pepe had a header wide when maybe he should have hit the target.
Starting point is 00:21:01 and then a volley over shortly afterwards and then Vega near the end for Villarreal hit the post with a minute to go of normal time from a corner. But City had other chances, could have scored more, up to fifth in the Champions League at the moment in the table. And their first away win, as you said, in quite some time, it was a very, very good night for City. John, I don't want to end this on a downbeat note as far as Manchester City are concerned. So we'll talk about Erling Harland again with Androsse and with Gis and with Gis. but I just wanted to ask about the injury to Nico Gonzalez because with Rodry also out, it's leaving them a little bit stretched.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Came off just a couple of minutes into the second half and Pep Guadio has just been asked about him in his press conference. He said, yep, had to come off. Let's hope it's not serious, but I don't know yet. So you are right. They don't need another injury in there, but at the moment we don't know how serious
Starting point is 00:21:58 that's going to be for Gonzalez. Andreas on Erling Harland is one of these questions that you have to ask because he keeps on scoring. He keeps on providing these headlines for Manchester City. And yet, you know, everybody's running out of ways to describe him to the point where we've run out of superlatives for Erling Harland has almost become a cliche in itself. He's an absolute robot. You put the ball in the box. He's going to get there first. He's going to score.
Starting point is 00:22:28 He has done his whole career. I said before the game he's got 22 Premier League goals last season and it was deemed a disappointment that's the levels that he's set and with this Manchester City side who have added more creativity in DeBron's absence
Starting point is 00:22:43 they've obviously sold him now they've had more creativity they seem to be creating the chances again for Holland and of course he's going to put it away if the ball comes into the box and Guillem in terms of that performance for Manchester City against via Real was it
Starting point is 00:22:57 was it pretty comfortable for them, did you think? The first half, especially, yes. It was a team that was well structured, that when they didn't have the ball, it was difficult to see where Villarreal could hurt them. And when they had the ball, they had a lot of options to score.
Starting point is 00:23:14 But football is funny. Instead of hitting the bar with two, one, two minutes ago, they had then another chance. Ayurtha had another chance. Could have been like Villarreal did against Juventus, two late goals. But it didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:23:29 partly because there was a superiority from Manchester City that Villarreal could certainly not match. And the only hope was that everybody fell asleep, that the likes of Silvina, who was outstanding as well, and the Halland gets sent to rest, which is what Pepporelliola did. But even so, City deserves for the got. Again, we have to ask you about the other big story
Starting point is 00:23:51 around Villarreal tonight, which concerns what was their proposed match against Barcelona in Miami, which is no longer happening. La Liga has confirmed that after discussions with Relevant, who were the organizers in Miami of that Villarreal, Barcelona, that was going to take place in December, that had been approved, had gone through a lot of faces
Starting point is 00:24:12 and had been approved by all the authorities to this point. They basically decided to cancel it. I think it comes on the back of Relevant saying, do you know what, there is too many people that don't like this and we don't want to be affected by it? And La Liga trying to convince them this afternoon and they didn't manage to do so. but the statement from La Liga
Starting point is 00:24:30 and the one that had just come out a minute and a half ago from Barcelona it says that it's a missed opportunity Villarreal are a little bit upset because they found out about it 10 minutes before the Champions League game the announcement from La Liga came during the Champions League game
Starting point is 00:24:43 so they felt that they were forgotten in this story and they were the ones actually put in the credit in the line because they were asking their fans it was a home game for Villarreal they were asking the fans to go to Miami to see them play
Starting point is 00:24:55 but I do agree with La Liga is a missed opportunity but I feel that Spanish football is not ready for it the fans didn't want it the media didn't want it certain clubs didn't want it
Starting point is 00:25:06 and Tebas the head of La Liga is going to have to insist on it try to sell it in a different way but yeah it means few steps back for him before he actually tries it again and And Andros
Starting point is 00:25:16 other leagues are going to be watching this development with interest because you would imagine if La Liga sees an opportunity to expand in the American market by taking a game there there will be other leagues
Starting point is 00:25:27 possibly even the Premier League who've said at the moment actually that that's not on the cards but that doesn't mean that it never will be so it's interesting to watch how this all pans out yes and I think commercially it makes a lot of sense
Starting point is 00:25:43 but in terms of like the league and integrity it doesn't make sense so for example if I'm a Villarreal player and I'm playing against Barcelona at my home I'm thinking okay they're better than us but on our pitch our fans are going to be hostile. It may be difficult and we can get the three points.
Starting point is 00:26:00 So Andrews, the NFL and the NBA are not in, they haven't got integrity in their competition? No, but I think with the NBA, it's 80 games a season and there's still a playoff system after the league. So I think you can have one game in a different country. It's never the top teams. It's always middle of the road. I think we're comparing different sports and different ways of playing to Le Liga, whereas in La Liga, three points for Villareal could mean Champions League football or no Champions League football, whereas NBA, they play 82 games, regular games a season. One game outside of the ordinary is not going to make too much of the difference to the overall standings. So in the nine Champions League games we've had tonight, anybody want
Starting point is 00:26:45 to hazard a guess at how many goals we've seen? 43. Thank you very much for counting Guillaume. That took all the jeopardy out of that game, Thank you. It's all right. Quizzers are all about getting the correct answer. I'm with you. John Bennett has been across the games that didn't involve English teams, and there's only one place to start, isn't there, John?
Starting point is 00:27:05 Paris Saint-Germere, scoring seven. You need brackets on the video printer. By Levaikuzn 2, Paris Sejamaire 7. Another attacking masterclass by PSE. Added bonus that the Ballandoor winner, Usman Dembele, made a comeback and he scored just three minutes after coming on. First half, there were two red cards, five goals, one miss penalty. It was one-one on 41 minutes, then four-one at half-time to Paris Saint-Germere.
Starting point is 00:27:31 And then in the second half, Nuno Mendes, Den Belé and Vittina scored for PSG. So 13 goals in three games for PSG, six wins in a row in the Champions League, and 12 Champions League wins for them in this calendar year that equals the record. I mean, it's just been an incredible evening of Champions League action. and it started with the early kickoffs where all eyes were on Barcelona's Marcus Rashford. Two goals for Marcus Rashford in a 6-1 win for Barcelona
Starting point is 00:27:58 against Olympiarchos. Ferman Lopez scored a hatrick as well. Rashford also scored a penalty which Lamin Yamal scored. I think the shock result of the night was PSV Einhoven beating Napoli 6-2. That's a really damaging defeat for Antonio Conte. So they've lost two Champions League games
Starting point is 00:28:14 already this season. They also lost against Torino at the weekend. so that's an awful night for Napoli. Brissy Dortmund with an excellent win 4-2 win over FC Copenhagen. They're the second top scorers in the Champions League Brissie Dortmund behind PSY and into Milan. They are back.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Union Saint-Gil-Lois-Nil, into Milan 4. So into three wins out of three in the competition so far. No goals conceded. So much mourning about so many games and so many games meet players are tired and there are more goals. It's exciting. We like this.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Daily Podcast Champions League debrief with Kelly Cates. Away from the Champions League, Sean Deich has been confirmed as the new Nottingham Forest Manager. He signed a deal which will see him through until the summer of 2027.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Let's hear his assessment of the job he's taking on. The latest management has been a tough gig for the manager. I understand that. Like I said, I'm not a question of him, that's fine. But certainly over them years, you know, I've noticed what they've done. And like I say, the growth in the club
Starting point is 00:29:16 off the pitch with the financial backing, the growth in the club on the pitch with some of the performance they've had, some of the great moments they've had. But then, of course, culminated in a big season last season. It's to be respected because what a fantastic season. I thought they're excellent last season. I've already told the players,
Starting point is 00:29:31 marveled at some of their performances, both individually and collectively, and the atmosphere around the city of ground. And we certainly want to get back onto that front foot, if you like, and hopefully give the crowd something to cheer about and bring them back and reconnect. I don't think it's far away. You know, the poorest fans in my experience have been very fair
Starting point is 00:29:47 down the years. and I don't think far away from the team reconnecting results of course help that of course but I think the first thing is performances they haven't kept a clean sheet in 20 games that's got to be a bit of lot you know these things are probably been in a long time then sort of
Starting point is 00:30:03 them sort of starts creep up on you you know at first you go no you know if you go a few games out of clean sheep still nicking wins and points let's go back to them 20 games and then all of a sudden you go hang in a minute you know there's solidarity amongst the group and how the base that I call it to work from was so effective.
Starting point is 00:30:22 And then it just maybe softens a little bit. Not necessarily as a group, there's maybe the odd mistake here. And you get the odd unlucky ones. So, yeah, that's certainly something we have to correct, of course. I know the players are aware of that. But of course, I want the players to have their freedom to go and play. I've already had a meet with them today. Express that. I think there's some talent here for sure.
Starting point is 00:30:39 So how can we find that balance? That was Sean Deich speaking to BBC Radio, Nottingham's Colin Frey. Andros Townsend, Glenn Murray, are here, as is Guillem Ballagate, and Dennis, part of our commentary team at Arsenal against Atlatico Madrid as well. Andros, you were at Everton when Sean Deich was there. You didn't play under him because you were injured at the time. But can you give us an insight into what sort of impact he'll be trying to
Starting point is 00:31:02 bring to the club? What kind of immediate changes he might want to try and make? I think he will go back to basics. He is a steadier of a ship. Everton brought him in when it was unsteady. times. Everton were almost getting relegated and there were problems upstairs and he just steadied everything. He's experienced. He didn't really get too bothered about what was going on off the pitch. He knows what he's doing. He knows what his qualities are as a manager, as a man
Starting point is 00:31:28 motivator and he sort of steadied the ship at Everton. But I think Notting and Forest beyond that stage, I think they had Nuno who sort of steadied the ship. For one reason or another, they decided to change and get Postercoglu. They wanted to go for that attacking manager and it didn't work after eight games. I feel like they've gone backwards, they've gone backwards to steady the ship again, whereas they were through that phase. So, no, Sean Dice is a fantastic manager,
Starting point is 00:31:51 and I'm sure he'll do well for Nottingham Forest. Yeah, being brought in to steady the ship, Glenn, is exactly what's needed at Nottingham Forest. You finished your playing career there. What have you made of what's been going on this season? I mean, it should have been a season that was enjoyable for the fans. It's been a long time since we've been out of European football and back in the big league, so to speak.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And at the moment, it's all been a bit flat, hasn't it, in all honesty? Yeah, Poster Coglu, when he got the job, I just couldn't see that fit. I think he was too far away from what they were as a Nuno team. This, I can understand. What I don't understand is that Eddie was obviously coming, and he's been in charge of bringing plays in. He's brought more technical players in.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Hence, Poster Coglu going in, and it looked like he wanted to take the football club that way. So I just wonder, who was at the final sale on this, Sean Dysha Plutman? Because I think we can all agree it's gone back. to or revert it the type as far as Sean Deich is concerned I think this is a real opportunity for him he's always been a bit of a consolidation manager a safe manager manager manager that'll keep you in the Premier League and I feel as though this Nottingham Forest squad has got a lot of ability it can do the the hard yards that Sean will want them to do but also it's got a bit of flare I think
Starting point is 00:33:08 he'll get the fans back on board which is extremely important in Nottingham and something that Nuno harness really well. And I just think this squad needs a little bit of confidence and obviously he's got some European experience with Burnley and I think this could be a really big job for Sean Dice to shake that tag of what he currently is. I've got the impression that if you ask privately Sean what the job is like, he'll tell you that it's so much work to do and the biggest job of all is to win the authority of the players and the fans and the enterage because we all know that Forrest tried to get Marco Silva.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Now, Marco Silva is what Glenn is asking for, that manager that goes towards getting the best of those technical players and in the idea of the club has got for a while, Sean Dice hasn't got that much to do with it, but everybody knows he was on first choice. So he's going to have to come in and try to convince, first of all, and most importantly, because as Andrews says, he doesn't care about the enterage, really,
Starting point is 00:34:09 what people think of him, but he will have to try to convince him. the players that are used to a completely different thing. So when he talks about privately about the amount of work that he's got to do, that's the first thing to actually go into the training pitch and say, okay, guys, I want you to do A, B, C. And guys, saying, yeah, we're going to do it for you. But he's got to win that over.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I think he'll definitely get the respect to the players. I think Sean Dyche is somebody who is very authoritative. He's very confident in his style of play and what he wants to do, both in the meeting and remand on the training pitch. So I think that's one thing he will do straight away. is getting the authority of the players. Glenn, do you think there's anything in this connection with Nottingham Forrest? Because Shawdatch was a youth player there.
Starting point is 00:34:50 He talks a lot about Brian Clough and his influence on Notting and Forrest and sort of mentions his connection with Brian Clough. Is there a sense that having had a manager in Anjposter Coglu, who rightly or wrongly, Forrest fans were not interested in having at the club. He was sort of on a hiding to nothing from the beginning. And then obviously, results certainly didn't help. but now they've got someone in who as a boy
Starting point is 00:35:14 was one of their own does that matter do you think yes yeah without doubt I feel as though the further we go in this sport the further we get away from what it's about we build these business
Starting point is 00:35:27 juggernauts trying to achieve things but it's the heart and soul of the football club the fans they're the ones that matter and I feel as though they didn't take to Angiposta Coglu and therefore they were a huge reasoning
Starting point is 00:35:40 why he departed the club because he didn't get enough time I think that's fair to say there was a lot needed changed and he wasn't allowed enough time should I say to do that with Sean Dyche yes
Starting point is 00:35:54 someone local someone knows a club someone who understands the people and I mentioned it before Steve Cooper was one, Noon was another that really harnessed that forest crowd and it can be a really special place of Sydney ground and I think Sean Dish will do
Starting point is 00:36:10 that it's exactly what they need. Also, the Worn and Stone as his assistance. Obviously they've got a lot of forest history in them as well. Thank you to Guillaume and Ross and to Ian Dennis
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