Football Daily - UCL Debrief: Arsenal squeeze into the semis as Bayern blast past Real

Episode Date: April 15, 2026

Relief for Arsenal as they make it to the Champions League semi-finals with a 1-0 aggregate victory over Sporting Lisbon, John Murray and Chris Sutton join Steve Crossman for reaction from the Emirates. They discuss the nervousness around Arsenal and look ahead to their tie with Atletico Madrid in the final four. Euro Leagues’ Raphael Honigstein joins us from Munich where Bayern beat Real Madrid in a thriller to set up a meeting with Paris Saint Germain.Plus, Spanish football journalist Juan Castro gives his assessment of the controversial red card for Eduardo Camavinga which swung the balance in Bayern’s favour on a disappointing night for Alvaro Arbeloa’s side. Timecodes: 00:35 – Arsenal - Sporting Lisbon reaction with John Murray and Chris Sutton 13:06 – Bayern Munich reaction with Raphael Honigstein 17:46 – Real Madrid reaction with Juan Castro 22:00 – The challenge ahead for Arsenal with John Murray and Chris Sutton 31:35 – Mikel Arteta interview

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on BBC.com or wherever you listen. On the Football Daily podcast, Champions League debrief with Steve Crosman. So Arsenal are into the semi-finals of the Champions League. Atlago Madrid, Lionweight, Mikhail Artetta, versus Diego Simioni. Much more reaction to come from correspondent John Murray and Chris Sutton inside the stadium.

We'll have more on that remarkable tie as well between Bayern Munich and Real Madrid. Chris, though, before we do anything else, if there's one word, is it relief right now for Arsenal? They've done it. They're there. Yeah, I think so. And, you know, we know what's going to happen. We know what the narrative will be in a lot of parts

and people will rip Arsenal to shreds for the way they attacked or you could say didn't attack. But I do understand towards the end of the game, it's about seeing it through. And, you know, why should they go gung-ho? because the objective tonight was all about going through and it's about finding a way and it wasn't perfect if you know it really wasn't perfect by any means but out of possession and defensively they do a lot right but you know it's been a struggle for a while now and things do need to change and people will look forward to the game or be looking ahead to the game at the weekend against Manchester City and be riding Arsenal off but you know I still think that they are a capable team and it may well click now before the end of the season in that final third and, you know, Arsenal could see it through in the Premier League

and the Champions League. Well, relief at the Emirates tonight and there's going to be ecstasy inside the Allianz Arena, Mike Minor. It's exploded with the very last kick of the game. Michael Alise has shored up the tie for Bayern Munich with a trademark. Michael Alisei goal. He's threatened it twice already tonight. On the third time, it pays off.

He puts Bayamuk ahead for the first. First time this evening, 6-4 on aggregate. 4-3, the game will finish. Jude Bellingham's having a go at the officials, furious that they were sent down to 10 when Camovina was sent off late on. A real topsy-turvy thrill again. Two for Arlegula in the first half,

where Manuel Noir was at fault for both. Pavlovich and Kane equalized on both occasions for Bayern Munich before. Mbapé had them three-two up on the break. Second half a little closer, but still just as intense. As the added time went up, Louis Diaz scored a corker from outside the box into the far corner for 3-3 on the night. And then, as I said, Michael Alisei wins it.

Bayern Munich will produce a thriller tonight. And undoubtedly, PSG has a lot to live up for in the semi-finals. It has finished. Bayern Munich for Rail Madrid 3, 6'4 to Bayern on aggregate. Right, well, we'll speak to Raphael Honnickstein a little bit later then if he's still got a voice after that win for Bayern Munich inside the Allianz, Juan Castro as well, Spanish football journalist, will join us too.

We should be able to bring you some reaction from inside the Emirates as well. It's interesting, John, because looking at the pictures from the two stadiums in front of me, that there's a party happening at the Allianz, but at the Emirates, it does just feel like

what you said in commentary, a weight lifted, not just off Mikhail Artetta, but off the whole stadium. Yeah, there was. It was an uncomfortable night, really, for the Arsenal's, supporters. They were playing at half

time in the stadium. They were playing living on a prayer. It was more like living on their nerves throughout the course all the way through the second leg. Right until the very end really, that Simor's shot that was narrowly wide in the final seconds of the match. But, you know, they

were able to maintain the control that they had and that was enough to see them through. What I imagine Chris, they are going to need to think about and presumably they'll have been thinking about it already given recent results. They're not really creating enough, are there?

No, and that's a huge problem, and that's an issue for Mikhail Artecetera. I'm sure he's thinking about it every hour of the day. How can they be more effective in the final third? Just think, you know, little things like the wide players. They're hesitant. They're on the back foot. They're not quite decisive enough in the way that they think

and the way that they attack. And then with your, Docker is in the first half. You know, one of my favorite words, Steve, you know, is clunky. That's what he was. The ball doesn't stick. He plays, you know, one touch at times. And you have to find your teammate in that final third and be cute and be clever and be aware of the center forward.

He was anything but that got hooked and Havert's went on. And, you know, I'm not saying he, you know, he was brilliant, but they looked a little bit cleaner in terms of their actions in the final third. Ezah showed some like a few moments in the game but he's not up to speed so at this moment in time Arsenal you know they have a lot of work to do and everybody will be thinking in the Premier League it's Manchester City's game on Sunday but the way that you know I take my hat off to Arsenal because the way they they they defend and the way that you know that they lose the ball and they all track back the recovery runs are there so they know they're not perfect at the moment but yeah I'm one of those I'm certainly not going to write them off and rule them out with the Premier League just because they've been a little bit ineffective. That may come back. I don't know how long Bakayosaka is going to be out, but he does seem like a key player to me because he's a little bit different to anything else that Arsenal have got in that final third. And I think he has that edge in terms of his quality. So get him back and I think they'll send a far stronger chance. of being more effective at the top end of the pitch, but it is a problem.

Just reading some quotes here, Chris, from Declan Rice on TV, said, I'm delighted, I'm so, so happy. We now want to go one step forward, one step further than last season, and get to the final. Is it frustrating? No, we've just got to another semi-final.

Who cares what people think? I agree with that. And, you know, you talked about the, you know, the stadium being flat at the end. There is the 20. at the 14-year-old Arsenal ultras who were still very excited in their part of the stand.

But Declan Rice is absolutely right. You know, what was the aim in the Arsenal dressing room before the game? It wouldn't have been, you know, let's go Kamakazi because everybody's criticizing our style of play in recent weeks. It's about balance. It's about seeing it through. It's about the desired

outcome. The desired outcome before the game would be, well, okay, well, if we can't win it, keep a clean sheet, we'll go through. Arsenal have done that. And, you know, I said there will be criticism just because of the nature of, you know, the landscape now and, you know, and people's views in football. But, you know, I said before, you know, Manchester City players, you know, and Pep saying, well, you know, we've got, we've got a week to rest and what have you.

Manchester City players will be sitting at home tonight and be thinking, God, I wish that was us in the Champions League semi-finals. I think Arsenal players can take a lot out of these. this guy. I don't know how you feel, John, but I think this is quite a difficult needle to thread because I can completely understand people listening to the commentary and thinking, oh, creatively, Arsenal are in a funk here and you need to sort of critique that funk. I can equally see the opposite, which is they're in the semi-finals of the Champions League. They have achieved what they set out to achieve tonight. Yeah, I can understand. I was listening to Trish Johnson,

who is part of our Masters team the other evening when they were on with you, wasn't it, on Monday night? When Trish was talking about, and I guess she probably speaks for a lot of Arsenal fans who just want to see this Arsenal team and some of the brilliant talent that they've got in it expressed themselves and enjoy themselves. I mean, Damond did that to an extent

when he came onto the field, but listen, what they want more than anything else, what Michael Artetta wants, what's the most important thing it's to win a trophy this season. However it's done. Yeah, and you know what, Steve? People will forget this game of Arsenal.

Go on and win the Champions League. Nobody's going to talk about the nil-nil at home against sporting Lisbon if they go all the way. It'll be the same in the Premier League. If Arsenal got up to the Etty had at the weekend and get a boring nil-nil-nil draw and end up winning the Premier League, people, you know, I mean, are Arsenal fans going to care about that?

I think not. I might be close to having forgotten it already. It's the fan experience, I suppose. isn't it, Chris. If I was an Arsenal fan, I would feel exactly the same as they do, which is I'd be delighted that they've gone through. But the nerves make sense, don't they?

The feeling at full-time makes sense. Because yes, they're thinking about the goal, but they're also thinking, well, if we played like this against Diego Simeone's Athletico, then what would happen? That's only natural. Yes. And look, I think the thoughts foremost in Arsenal fans' mind,

is the game at the weekend really and and going into it where you know there there are struggles in the final third you know they'll look ahead to the semi-final against the atletico in sort of due course when it when it comes around but i mean this this arsenal team i think if you ask any any arsenal player who would they rather play atletico madrid or barcelona they'd probably tell you atletico madrid so yeah you know they just need to raise the game a little bit but they you know They are capable. You know, Madewa K seems like he's lost a bit of confidence. Martinelli's a little bit on the back foot.

You know, it's just not quite clicking, quite connecting, quite connecting. But as I say, these are all players we know we've seen before. Troussard, you know, off the bench. You know, he's an intelligent player. You know, it can click. So, you know, and it is a big if coming towards the end of the season. But you just can't write off. It takes a moment, one moment in a particular game of, you know,

somebody seeing a pass, making a pass a brilliant finish. You know, they just need that spark in that final third. And if that comes, then Arsenal have a real chance in both competitions. Just last one for now then, Chris. And then we'll come back to you once we get some reaction from inside the Emirates. It's interesting what you were saying there about the confidence thing. I was listening to Vittor Matos, the Swansea manager the other day, and he was asked this question about confidence in football.

And he said on the outside that people tend to see it as win big game equals confidence. But sometimes it can be a brilliant tackle, a great piece of skill, one individual goal. It could be a moment within a game that suddenly changes everything. Yeah, I mean, looking at the game last night, the Liverpool game where, I mean, everybody fancied PSG to go through. But Marquinos, that block from Van Dyke, that, you know, that. that moment and you know I'm not all for defenders celebrating

I sort of half got that one I think we were discussing that on the Monday nightclub because because it you know it was it was that moment I think I think Arsenal needs something to happen in the final third though you know for for it to change

but this has been I mean hasn't not been Arsenal all season really you know they've been you know a lot has been made about their particular style and Mikhail Arte are changing the style that they were going to play to try and conquer Manchester City

because everybody had tried to out football Manchester City over the years. That hadn't really worked. Manchester City had been the dominant team. So they've done it a different way. So, you know, they haven't really, you know, nothing has really changed, but they're finding a way to be successful. And is that not the aim in football?

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Listen on BBC Sounds. The podcast. Champions League debrief with Steve Crosman. Right, let's go to Bavaria, shall we? Bayern Munich have not been in a Champions League final for six years. The last time they got there was during COVID. It was behind closed doors. So they haven't played in one in front of fans for 13 years. And they're not in another one yet, but they are one step away.

They have beaten Rail Madrid by four goals to three at the Alianz Arena. It's finished six four on aggregate. Raffa Honokstein, do you still have a voice? I'm not sure I still have a voice. Just about. It's not my full voice. I'm not the regular voice. Oh, what a game.

What a dramatic evening. Tell us what it was like being there for that. It looked amazing. It was amazing. I mean, you couldn't believe your eyes half of the time because things happened that you just, I mean, you try to process it, but Mano and Neuer giving their goal away in the first minute and then not looking great for the three. We talked about before the game, how he was celebrated for some of the saves in the first leg,

but has been looking a little bit more like his age recently, and certainly he did tonight. But then Byron found a way back, and the crowd were really rocking the world, and then, of course, Ramaglid chopped themselves in the foot a little bit. But it was just, it was one of the loudest nights I've ever witnessed in the Nilan's arena, and that's from someone who's been going for a long, long time to this particular stadium, which is not necessarily known as one of the louder ones in Europe. That's amazing, Raf. So what do you think it was about this night then?

Because there have been some famous nights there. It's always about Real Madrid. Bayern see themselves as rivals to Real Madrid. I'm not sure Real Madrid feel quite the same with 15 Champions League titles on Bayern, and have an Amiga 6 in comparison. But by and always, since the 80s, really see Real Madrid as the game that they want to win more than any other game. Because domestically, they're in a position where no one can really challenge them to this extent. But Real Madrid throughout the years and certainly the last decade have been their nemesis.

And tonight, you know, was kind of just them getting so many. ghosts off their back and exercising those demons. And that had that extra quality to it, which made it very very special. That's really interesting, Raff, because obviously we've been doing the Arsenal game. And I was just saying to John, how was that? It wasn't a thriller. But it was this overriding feeling. You could hear it from the stands, the feeling of relief.

And I was actually expecting to talk to you about just sort of pure relation. but there's a touch of relief in your voice as well, which is presumably because of the ghosts you've just been talking about. Yeah, I think there's both. I mean, people are shaking their heads, you know, sort of saying, wow, how did we? I just do that. But at the same time, they are over the moon.

It was so nervy because around Madrid, you know, for all their flaws, they again showed just how good they are going forward. They need half a chance to score goals. They need just a sniff to create problems. But there are players that you can't properly defend. You cannot defend Killeen Bappe once he starts running at you, similar with Venetius. You can outplay them in midfield. You can try and have a better structure.

You can sort of collectively be a better side. But once the ball gets to those players, the whole stadium held its breath. And of course, then that extra sense of shock and insecurity that came from Neuer. that mistake early on made it just extra nerdy. And it was just, it was an incredible experience, really. It was. And what happens now, Raff? Do you not speak to Julianne LaRont

until after the semi-final second leg or what? I mean, I was with him when Bayern beat Pesje in the final. Yes, I remember. And we had a good time. No, you didn't. Maybe one of us better than the other. Yeah, maybe one of us better the other. But now I'm looking forward to it.

I've already got my hotel booked in Paris. I'm sure he's going to come to Munich. We're going to have a really good time. Before and after the game, I'm not sure during the actual game, so we're going to have a good time with each other. But our friendship shall endure, whatever the results. Thank you very much, Raf. Congratulations. Great stuff. Thank you.

Rafael Honestine inside the Allianz. There is another side of the story, though, Juan Castro, and that's what happens to Rail Madrid. Yeah, here, the most use were, at this time of the night in Madrid is rope. People are really furious against the Wafas president, friend, Vinchich, the referee. And people is really, I mean, tremendous worry

about what has happened today in Munich and Madrid. And this will have consequence. I think tomorrow, club will say and will do something because the rope was in the... the Madridista's perspective really clear. As in they feel that some sort of conspiracy or something? No, as everybody has seen

that the second yellow car to Camabinga, you cannot give this second yellow car in a really nice semi-fist, nine quarterfinals in the Champions League in the last minute where both things were equalized. You cannot give this second yellow car. It was one of the most modern rope that we have had in the Champions League

in the recent years. Rail Madrid have a history of not getting on with officials as well, don't they? There seems to be no love loss there. So do you expect them that they're going to go really on the attack here? Yes, of course. you can see all you have you can see all the players go against the referee after the match

even arda guler was taken by what's enough with a red red car for protesting and i think tomorrow the club will say and will do something because you can not i mean you can be disqualify from the Champions League, but you cannot be disqualified with this second yellow car, which has no sense for the football sense, for the competition, you are in the best competition in the world, and you cannot have this kind of behave in the Madrid's perspective. And I think the Spanish press in general will refer to. reflect this match as a kind of rope. And just to finish on Real then, what do you think will happen with Arbeloa?

Does he take any blame for this? Or will they just shield him from that completely? No. The name is vintage. Tomorrow, name. And today and tonight, and in the next days, all will be focusing Vinchis in the referee of tonight's match. I think Arbelloa will be huge in a second stage.

But I don't think Madridistas will blame Arbelloa because they were equalizing the round. And only a second yellow car for Camabinga. I think just make the balance go to Bayern Munich. Juan, thank you for coming on. I can tell you frustrated. Really appreciate your chatting to us. Thank you.

Juan Castro, Spanish football journalist. Let's go back inside the Emirates. John Murray and Chris Sutton are there. It feels like they're not taking it too well, Chris, from the sounds of it, doesn't it? Oh, dear me. Yeah, I mean, it did seem an element of sour grapes. Do you think? Do you pick that off?

Yeah, I think so. I mean, Real Madrid go out. So just blame the referee. Blame a conspiracy. I mean, that was, yeah. I mean, that was quite incredible, wasn't it? Bad, aren't they bad losers? Well, you haven't seen the decision yet, Chris.

I haven't, but that did, you know. Did everything go against him, Steve? Well, buying were really good, weren't they? So, yeah. Anyway, at Lettico, Madrid, John, and Arsenal, as you rightly said in commentary, I'm excited for Artetta and Simeone on the same touchline.

Yeah, I think that we should point out that they have played each other in the Champions League this season, where, remember, Arsenal remain unbeaten in this tournament, unbeaten semi-finalists, that's not bad. And when they played Atlago Madrid on what UEFA like to call match day three, they played each other here, and Arsenal won 4-0. So that's not a bad one to have in your locker.

But of course, it's a totally different matter. Now we get to this end of the season, and they've got to play each other over two legs in a knockout tie. But the second leg will be here in London at the Emirates. You know what they'll be, John, don't you? Fire. There probably will be fire in that one, particularly in the Metropolitan.

Which is, I mean, so many of these grounds are tough places to go. But that is right up there. I mean, Tottenham have already found that out this season. Of course, when they went there, they were at a low air, weren't they under Igor Tudor? But I think they showed there that in an attacking sense, this Athletico Madrid have got a lot about them. but in a defensive sense, Arsenal have got a lot about them.

They're a capable team sporting, Portuguese champions. They couldn't find a way past David Raya in either of these two matches. And in this competition so far, they have only conceded five goals in 12 matches, Arsenal. So that tells you everything about their strength. Do you think then, Chris, what's happened tonight shifts the dial at all ahead of the weekend, by which I mean, I think Juliana Rom was making the point before the game, if Arsenal were able to get like a big confidence-boasting win,

then maybe it would undo some of what they've been feeling. This wasn't that, clearly. So does that mean that that still persists ahead of the weekend or not? Well, in every quarter now, everybody will be writing Arsenal off at the weekend because of how insipid they were in, you know, in terms of their attacking play. And I understand that to some extent. But, you know, John, you know, and I mentioned them out of possession, Arsenal are brilliant out of possession. Defensively, they are absolutely exceptional.

So I wouldn't, you know, in many ways, if you're in the Arsenal dressing room, you're loving it because, you know, they're probably due. something to go right for them in the final third. They're probably due sort of the combination play to click. Arsenal are right where they want to be. And you know, people are, people will naturally try and try and try and knock them, you know, and they'll try and sort of break the confidence. But you know, it's all about desired outcome. Sitting in the dressing room before the game, the Arsenal players would have

been thinking, well, you know, let's let's play with balance. Let's let's play our. game. Let's not get carried away with what everybody else wants us to do. The main thing is to go through tonight. And I actually, I admired the discipline towards the end of the game. There were times when Arsenal could have chucked bodies forward and loaded the box. But they didn't do because they knew the importance of having that balance and, you know, Declan, Rice and Zuberman, they just stayed behind the ball. And second half, I know Sporting Lisbon hit the post in the first half. Second half, I mean, there was a shot at the end.

But other than that, you know, Arsenal defended superbly. So for all where people are looking at what hasn't quite gone right for Arsenal, you know, there are still a lot of good things about this team. And yeah, I'm repeating myself now, but I wouldn't be ruling them out of anything at the weekend. Manchester City, as good a team as they have been in recent weeks, they got walloped in the Champions League against real. Madrid and I think in the Premier League they dropped points against West Ham in recent times. Everybody's just looking at that performance against Bournemouth and and you know,

viewing that the Arsenal are going to crack. I don't think it's that simplistic. And what we don't know ahead of the weekend for Sunday and whether Mikhail Arteta sheds any light on who might be fit and whom might not be fit, I would doubt because it's his way to be quite vague. Yes. But we know that Madwake has picked up an injury here tonight. He had to go off. But we do not know whether Odegaard, Saka, Timba, Califiori,

whether any of those, one of them, all of them, might be available on Sunday. And were there to be, then that does put a different slant on things. We might squeeze in a bit of Mikhail Artata. It's just sort of working its way through to us before. Yeah, it's just talking now. team on a screen just to my right here. I have got some quotes from him speaking on television just now, Mikhail Artetta.

Saying what you'd expect really. It's a massive moment to be part of those four teams in the semi-finals. It's great work on a great night. Very happy for all our people. We're making steps that haven't been done at this club for 140 years. Some more from Declan Rice on television as well. He's talked about the noise surrounding the team in recent weeks. This is interesting.

He says, like being at any other top club, there's always noise. This is Arsenal. We get it with every game. If you don't play well, take it with a pinch of salt and keep moving. It's a roller coaster. Of course, you have to win every game. We want to win every game. Our record this year has been amazing in all competitions.

It's why we play the game. I know I'll be ready for Sunday. I know the boys will be ready as well. What they've got, Chris, in their favour, is what you were talking about. They will be using one there, the outside noise and discussion. not that they need extra motivation,

but to use the word for the 500th time tonight, fire. They'll be talking about it, weren't they? Yeah, but, you know, it will be, you know, inside the dressing room, everybody's writing us off, everybody's against us, it will be about creating that siege mentality. Just as, you know, this is as basic as it is, Steve. At the start of every season, you know,

teams start back in preseason, and, you know, Arsenal start back, and, you know, I'm sure one of the conversations at the start of the season, you know, can we achieve in the Champions League? Can we achieve in the Premier League? And Arsenal, you know, we are right at the business end of the season, and Arsenal are there. You know, they are, I say they are there.

They're at the top of the Premier League. They're in the semifinals of a Champions League. They're exactly where they want to be. And, I mean, just, you know, little things. Like people who are writing PSG off in the Champions League, sort of earlier on the season because of their poor form. Maybe something will just click for Arsenal in the final third. But because of how good they are defensively,

not maybe. They don't have the flair of PSG. They don't have the attacking prowess of Bayern Munich. But they are still a brilliantly balanced team, Arsenal. And as I say, anybody writing them off is foolish. I think it is great, Chris, having you with us over these weeks right now with Arsenal trying to do what they did coming under severe pressure because that really must take you back to when you and Blackburn were trying to win the league and do something historic under severe pressure from an established force. Yeah, and that's when you're, that's when you're, I think Nedham said it. That's when you're looking to your manager for consistency in his messaging. And, you know, the player sticking together.

When things started to go wrong to, you know, Blackburn towards the end and we had the odd bad result. You know, Kenny Darglish was the guy we all looked up to. And, you know, it's about getting over the line. In the end, we got over the line last day of the season. But over the course and distance of a season, that was the last of the 42 game season. you deserve to win the Premier League. You know, we ground out. And that's what Arsenal are doing at this moment in time.

But in it, you know, I would view it. And I think people like Declan Rice will be thinking this way. Everybody's thinking that Manchester City are going to win the game on Sunday. But I bet there are Arsenal players in there who were quietly confident. Let's go up there. And, you know, and, you know, and put Manchester. to sit the way and really believing they are capable of that. In fact, I'd say most of the Arsenal team will be thinking that way.

They'll be flipping it and using the noise and the negativity to work in their favour. And that's the right thing to do. And I've mentioned it already, but it is a big Arsenal favourite here at the Emirates, living on a prayer. And what does it say? We've got to hold on to what we got. You could sing that, John. That would be lovely if you could sing that.

Or we could hear from Mikhail Artata. choice. I'm going to vote Artetta. Here's the Arsenal manager. My message was gratitude to them. I know the effort, the commitment that they put in. So there's a lot of work behind it. We've done something that

has never been done in the history of our club in 140 years. So that sets you a difficulty of that. We have to do it as well in a very special way, missing a lot of important players, big credit to that. And I'm especially happy to our supporters because they were right behind it in today and we're going to have two magical nights, one in Madrid and another war here in London against Athletico, so very proud of that.

Do performances matter at this stage of season if you aren't at your best? Does it matter or do you care if Arsenal aren't at their best if you get over the line? You have to be better than the opponent and I think we have many periods in the game that we were there. We didn't score the goal, we didn't finalize the actions well enough. But we had many other things that are very important to get the result that you need in a tie. And it's at this moment as well about the way you compete. And when you're going to go and win titles, that's when it's going to define the moments.

And we certainly done that tonight. Yeah, good choice, I think that, John. Good choice to hear from Mikhail Artecetta. Yeah, I think so. And I can't wait for that because it's a brilliant place to go to that stadium. It is much more real, I would say, ironically, than real Madrid. To go there, it is you get a genuine noise. that is a genuine atmosphere inside that ground,

which is not to say around Madrid can't create that sort of thing, but in the Metropolitano, it is, you know, you've got to be on it there to perform against them. And the other thing I'd say, with the results as they've gone tonight, it does open up the possibility of a final involving Harry Kane and Arsenal. Certainly does. Mikhail Atetta there with the BBC's Alex Howells.

Thank you very much, guys, Chris John. Great stuff. Cheers. Thanks, Steve. John Murray, Chris. and inside the Emirates. Arsenal versus Atletico, Madrid, Bayern-Munich versus Paris Saint-Germann

will be the Champions League semifinals. That's it for the Football Daily, and there'll be more reaction to that Champions League semi-final lineup on the Euroleagues on the next episode of the podcast. As always, thank you so much for listening. Hello, I'm Tyler West, and I'm Alfie Watts. And this is The Detour,

the official companion podcast to race across the world. This is the post-episode checkpoint where you'll hear the latest chat around each episode from us and our race superfan special guests. Plus, I'll be joined each week by a resident travel expert, Alfie. That's you, ma'am. I'll be revealing my optimal way to travel through each leg, including visits to all of those unmissable detours along the way.

And we'll also have some not seen anywhere else exclusive content at the end of every episode. I cannot wait. The detour will land straight after each episode of Race Across the World. You can watch on EyePlayer or Listen on Sounds, where you'll also find extra bonus content. We'll see you then. What was the point of the Artemis 2 mission round the moon?

I'm Tristan Redmond, host of the Global Story podcast. The Artemis crew are back on solid ground after traveling further from Earth than any human has before. The mission was a success. Or was it? Aside from getting great picks for socials, did we learn anything? For more, listen to the Global Story on BBC.com or wherever you listen. Thank you.