Football Daily - UCL Debrief: Liverpool's 'crisis' and Arsenal's Bayern redemption

Episode Date: November 26, 2025

Arsenal achieve a statement and redemptive victory over Bayern Munich as Liverpool move closer to crisis.Mikel Arteta’s Gunners now lead the UCL league phase, while North London rivals Tottenham Hotspur responded well to derby defeat but were bettered by European champions PSG.Despite an eight-game thriller for Spurs in Paris, the night’s big story came at Anfield, where Liverpool suffered yet another humbling defeat, 4-1 to PSV Eindhoven.Mark Chapman is joined by Paul Robinson, Matt Upson, John Murray, Alistair Bruce-Ball and Lee Blakeman for all the reaction on a thrilling night of Champions League action, with 39 goals in nine games. Plus you’ll hear from Slot, as well as Spurs boss Thomas Frank.Timecodes: 00:30 Arsenal’s statement victory over Bayern 11:12 Liverpool 20:30 Reaction from Arne Slot 22:10 Mid-roll 22:55 Tottenham’s eight-goal thriller 26:50 Reaction from Spurs manager Thomas Frank 28:10 Do PSG look like European champions? Upcoming commentaries on 5Live/Sports Extra: Thu 1745 Feyenoord v Celtic – Sports Extra Thu 2000 Rangers v Sporting Braga – Sports Extra Thu 2000 Aberdeen v Noah – Sports Extra 2 Sat 1500 Man City v Leeds – 5 Live Sat 1500 Sunderland v Bournemouth – Sports Extra Sat 1730 Everton v Newcastle – 5 Live Sat 1730 England Women v China – Sports Extra Sun 1405 West Ham v Liverpool – 5 Live Sun 1405 Aston Villa v Wolves – Sports Extra Sun 1405 Nottingham Forest v Brighton – Sports Extra 2 Sun 1630 Chelsea v Arsenal – 5 Live

On the Football Daily podcast, Champions League debrief with Mark Chapman. Welcome to the Champions League debrief on the Football DailyP. Stories wherever you look in the Champions League tonight, particularly when it comes to the English clubs. Three of them involved, two of them have lost, Liverpool and Spurs, and we'll come on to them in a little while. But we're going to start with the positive one, first of all. Arsenal clear at the top of the champions.

League. A big win over Bayern Munich, finished Arsenal 3, Bayern won. John Murray, they were fully deserving of the victory. Yeah, it was quite the follow-up to Sunday's thrashing of Tottenham base. As for their next trick, Arsenal had become the first team to beat Bayern Munich this season and knocked Harry Kane and his team off the top of the Champions League table to boot. Bayern couldn't cope with a sack a corner as they conceded the first timber glancing ahead of past the grasping noyer. Vinson, company side were level 10 minutes later though the slickest of moves. Kinnick's long pass, Gnabri first time cross, 17 year old Lenart Carl who caught the eye

in the first half with the finish for the equalizer but what a powerful second half from Arsenal. It felt like their goals were coming and they did. Noni Madweke is a substitute with his first for Arsenal to edge them back in front and then another substitute. Martinelli clenched it after Noya rampaged way out of his box and Martinelli got to the ball first but never mind the goals. A Declan Rice tackle on Harry Kane will be the moment of the night for many Arsenal supporters. But that is Tottenham and Bayern Munich done. Now, Chelsea on Sunday. Second against first in the Premier League. Matt Upsom was alongside John for this. There were two words that

you used in commentary towards the end at Matt about this Arsenal side. One was powerful. The second was confidence and you see that with them this season. They don't go into any match at all. Doesn't matter who it is. thinking they're going to do anything other than win it. It feels like. It feels like it's just simmering there all the time, Chappas, didn't it? Like that confidence is just there. And they might, they'll have patches in the game

and they might not play that well or they might not perform that well for that game. But that foundation is built. So it doesn't drop below a certain level. So before when you might look at Arsenal, you'd see brilliant flashes of play and then they'd have these matches where they'd tail right off, Not seeing that at the moment.

It's just there. It's a seven out of ten all the time. It might go to a nine, but it's just sat there. And they're churning out these games, and almost grinding teams sometimes. Not with awful football, but just with physicality, suffocating them, being direct, bits of skill at the end, lovely finishes and what have you.

But they're a tough team to play against, and you can just see that, because Byron, who were fantastic away at PSG last match round, came here today and in the second half really struggled. Do you know what I mean by that as well, John? Because we see so much Champions League football and go to so many Champions League games and English clubs can look dominant

for whole swathes of a Champions League campaign. But then when they get the real European elite, I'm not saying this is always the case. But there's always like, well, well, it's, you know, Bayern Munich in town or Rail Madrid in town. I don't think it matters who comes to town at the moment for Arsenal.

No. I agree. They're just in one of those runs. And, you know, I think we'll always have have to caveat this with the fact that it is this stage of the season. And remember, they did beat Paris-Sangerman here, didn't they, in the Champions League League phase last season. And we know what happened after that. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is not the last time that we see Arsenal

and Bayern Munich come together in this competition this season. And who knows, it might be very different further down the line. But for the time being, I think what it does is, and it takes me back to, you know, those teams that we've seen, whether it's Manchester. Manchester City, whether it's Liverpool, when they get into this kind of run in the first half of a season and just build that impregnable feeling and that's what they're doing and probably they're one result away at the weekend from being in a really, really strong position. I think there'll be plenty of time to preview Chelsea against Arsenal over the course of the next few days here on Five Live. And we began the whole show tonight, Matt, by talking about Arsenal's bench. And it was Arsenal's bench that delivered not only just in terms of the goal scorers in the second half, but indeed the assist at Califioris cross for the final goal.

You know, it delivers in all areas, doesn't it? Yeah, it really does. Freshness, quality. You know, it's not just players in the squad. We're talking about players that are coming on having an impact and a scrapping for the starting position. And I think that that is the key, Chapman. I mean, a manager that can keep a squad of this depth, hungry together, fighting for the shirt,

but then when you're not in the team, you're still responding in the right way. I think that's not easy. So for Mikhail Ateta to keep everyone on track. How do you think he's doing that? Because my mind immediately switches to the last couple of games, I've seen Gabrielle sitting there with an arsul scarf on, you know, near the bench. Yorcares, again, again, it's not about wearing an arsul scarf, obviously.

But do you know what I mean? There's just that they're not in a, they don't look to be in a director's box sulking that they're not playing. They're out and injured, but they're in the thick of it. It's the opposite. It's the opposite. Well, how can I be unselfish and support my players to win today? Because ultimately, Mikhail Atte has got them all pulling in the same direction.

And the goal is a Premier League title and as far in the Champions League as we can possibly go. And I think that, I think it comes in that order. The Premier League title for me is the one that, they're desperately wanting and that he really, really wants to bring back to the club. But they're also got a little whiff of like, we could actually go really far in this competition as well. So that's there. And it's keeping everyone interested. Everyone wants a piece of it. Everyone wants to be involved in or, you know, in the starting 11, not in the start of 11. They'll get in next week or they'll fight for their place.

And such a healthy team ethic. And you can see it on the pitch. And that for me is where the confidence come from. That's how it looks when, when you're at the ground. Paul Robinson has joined us as well. That, togetherness, given the size of the squad, is a seriously good piece of work, isn't it? Yeah, it's very difficult. It's easy to keep 11 players happy every week, isn't it? You pick them. But I think now you look at the competitions and the way it's now a squad game more than ever. And that's one criticism that you would have levelled at Arsenal last year, with the lack of squad depth. And if they had two or three injuries or injuries to key players,

they couldn't have coped with it. But now not only can they cope with injuries, they can afford to rotate and change the side. And the squad depth that we speak about that they've got, they've got two players, literally, for every position. They're in an extremely strong place at the moment. The other thing as well in this, Matt, and this goes back a few years, really, is the link, and the Kronkies got quite a lot of stick a few years ago, didn't they? But the link that Arsenal have in that the Kronkies own, both them and the L.A. Rams at the moment are the best team in one half of the NFL in the NFC,

with a very young coach in Sean McVeigh, who puts faith in young players, in the same way that the Kronkies seem to put faith in young coaches, and McVeigh and Artetta learn off each other. And John may roll his eyes at me for bringing the NFL into this. I don't know, I can't see him at the moment. But I do think there is a real tie-up between these two that is probably benefiting both clubs.

It's interesting, dynamic, isn't it? What better to feed off than somebody else in a similar position, experiencing maybe different or similar situations, learning from each other? I mean, it's quite rare, isn't it, that you would see that? But it appears, as you've mentioned, that that's the plan. And the owners have given that time to breathe, the patience. I mean, he's been here a long time now, Mikhail Atta. He's had a lot of seasons to build what he's built.

And he does things. And whether this links into that as well, Chapas, the things that he does that are outside the box as well. And I know a lot of people do raise the eyebrows there. But you can't deny the fact that he's built something that has a, real team spirit to it and that ultimately is every top manager's goal and if you've got it with good players you know great things can happen there was actually a really good article on the BBC Sport website a couple of weeks ago which will obviously still be

there by Ben Collins on that link between McVeigh and Artetta and exactly what they have been learning from each other and the links between the two clubs and how they are benefiting each other were you rolling their eyes at me john no i enjoy it always enjoy it when you when you educate me what i was going to say is that it was something i noticed ahead of this game when i was looking at bayon you know obviously with kane with his 24 goals in diaz louis diaz who was suspended tonight with 11 elise had nine coming into tonight but what they are what they are getting now is goals from lots of different areas so while yokelorez who's been out injured has got his six goals. Saka's got six goals. Now, Martinelli, Trossard and Eza have all got five goals.

And I think that's an effective thing for Arsenal in that the goals are coming from lots of different places. And just on the final thing on that, and then we'll come on to Liverpool and Spurs. But the final thing on that, Matt, is people go on about the set pieces for Arsenal. What I find the most astonishing thing about their set pieces is the sheer consistency of delivery from Saka and Rice in particular. It's almost robotic, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, you know where it's going.

But they never really hit the first man. No. No. They are on the money 90% of the time. Yeah, and it's meticulous, it's relentless, it's repetitive, all the runs that come in, the little bumps, the little nudges, the little, oh, can I stand there?

Is that going to be a foul? Like they've just kind of looked at all, find little bits of detail and they do it just to the right moment. The flip side, I was the one thing I say is I look at teams defender. I look at buying tonight and I see it all the time. I don't think with the way Arsenal set up, if you're going to mark zonel, you better be on the move ready to go and head that ball. The amount of times I see teams play against Arsenal and they're so stationary,

just jumping vertically to compete with Marino, who's running off of a 10 stride run up or Gabrielle piling into the box, you'd never. going to win it. It's just, it's not going to happen. So like the way teams are setting up against them, I'm not sure if that zonal system is enough to deal with what Arsenal offer time. Because like you said, they'll chuck eight to ten corners bang on the money every game. You better be on your toes in that box if that's going to happen. Okay, from the positives for Arsenal to the real negatives for Liverpool. Stephen Gerard on TNT this evening, they said each defeat, it comes closer to being a crisis. Liverpool still have

magnificent players this squad won the league but there's no excuses for that at this football club you can't deny the team is struggling massively they're on a terrible run confidence is at an all-time low they're wide open unless the manager can find answers and stability in his team then it's going to continue walloped walloped 4-1 at home tonight by PSV Lee Blakeman Liverpool's third straight defeat their ninth in 12 games 10 goals conceding in their last three. This has gone from a blip to a worry

to the verge of a fully blown crisis. It took Liverpool just five minutes to concede tonight of Van Dyck handball leading to a penalty that was scored by Peresich. Shabozla equalized 10 minutes later, but then after half time, Till made it 2-1 before Dreweck the sub got the third and fourth. For Liverpool, a story of misplaced passes,

poor defending, a lack of creativity in the wide areas and very questionable goalkeeping. Add to that, Hugo Ekateke, going off injured and Alexander Isak once again failing to convince when he came off the bench and it's been another miserable miserable night at Anfield Liverpool 12th in the Premier League and they now dropped to 13th in the Champions League and before I bring in Paul and Matt and John here because obviously everybody's watched different games tonight and you're the one who's been at Anford Lee and seen this they have had chances and yet at the same time it has felt

from watching that game this evening at times the same old failure not taking chances and being so fragile defensively. I'm keen to get Paul's thoughts in a second mark on the goalkeeper because he came in Georgie Mamadashvili and I don't want to dig out one player here but his handling tonight has been so so questionable and we've seen it a few times when he's deputized for Alison who's been ill tonight but you can't lay all the blame at his door either. It wasn't his fault.

Canate just missed the ball? It wasn't. It wasn't. I'm looking at various patterns across the game tonight. across the game tonight when Mamadashvili's handling failed to convince anybody, let alone Karnate in front of him. But then I'm looking at Van Dyke, basically looking like a basketball defender inside the first five minutes when he gave away the penalty.

I'm looking at Sala who was getting jeered every time he got the ball. Fans frustrated because he wasn't creating anything he was giving the ball away. And that's been the story of the last few weeks. For me, Mark, honestly, just looking down the team sheet here, the only player in Liverpool Colors who can leave the field with any kind of positives next to his name tonight, Dominic Zaboslai, got the goal, tried to drive forward and create from the midfield, but given the lack of support around him, he just got absolutely no chance. A very, very worrying performance.

Paul, do you want to come in on Mamadashvili? Listen, it's difficult because I haven't seen the goals yet. I've not been privy to watch that, but I think Mamadashvili was brought and sent back out on loan. Obviously, he's the successor eventually to Alison. They've missed him, Alison, since he's being out. And I think defensively, they've struggled. I, as you know, were at the game at the weekend with Ian Dennis

when we watched the Nottingham Forest game and Canate was absolutely abysmal in that game I mean he got substituted after 55 minutes He got substituted tonight He got subbed again tonight He brought Eka TK on at the weekend And he took Ryan Gravenberg back into centreback And he would have done better playing

Eckatee at centre half the way that Canatee was playing And for what Lee said about Sir Bosley The way that he played from midfield He's playing him at right back And for me watching them at the weekend That was half the problem They don't have a right back The defence is so unbalanced

Canate is so exposed and he's not in a really good place at the moment. He's completely out of form. Van Dyke looks exposed and every time the ball goes down, Liverpool's right, the opposition's left, they're in trouble. It's very easy to jump on Kanate, I suppose, because of his form, Matt, and I'm aware that you haven't seen this this evening, but the bigger picture when you take into the fact that sometimes it's a different goalkeeper behind him, there isn't a consistent right back next him.

Van Dyke's form at times this season has been. been a little iffy. It's not all on, you know, there are circumstances surrounding him as well as his own form. Yeah, no, totally. And I think there was question marks around him last season, wasn't there?

You know, it was a big push for Mark Gerheed to come into the club. And it was an area before the start of the season that was identified as a problem. And it's grown arms and legs, hasn't it? And I think it's done that because the actual base

and the foundation of the team has started to struggle. We've just been talking about Arsenal and how that's been built and how strong that is. Liverpool's now has has disappeared. So you've got all these players trying to come in and establish themselves, Verts, ESAT the pressure, misty summer training, big transfer, all the trauma and all the feeling of that and the emotion, a lot of that swirling around the club as well. It's a really hard time for Liverpool and it all seems to be happening all at once. You know, the most noticeable thing will be the

individual performances and mistakes and people out of form. That's what really jumps out of you, But like you said, there's other parts to that story as to why. And I think that's the thing that takes a lot longer to turn around. And the other thing, and I'm guessing you will both have been in this situation, Paul, is teams are arriving now knowing that if Liverpool aren't necessarily there for the taking, they are certainly vulnerable. Yeah, they're very susceptible. I mean, for the first 30 minutes against Nottingham Forest,

they look to have a fizz about them, Liverpool. they look to have the zest back in the stride, pressing high, they looked fluid, and then all of a sudden, as soon as Nottingham Forest got any kind of a foot hold in the game, the cracks and the creeks appeared, you can see when a team's lacking confidence, it doesn't take a lot to put them on the back foot,

and that's exactly where Liverpool are at the moment, especially at home. They've still got a decent record at home until the weekend, and then actually when Nottingham Forest realized that they could hurt Liverpool, and Liverpool realised they could be hurt, that's when the problem started, and no longer will teams now go to Anfield

or play against Liverpool, we'll sit in a low block and say, go on, break us down, we're going to try and play on the counterattack. They'll actually think, okay, we'll stay in the game. We know that we can hurt this Liverpool side, and then when we do go a goal in front, when they try and open up, they will leave spaces and they can be got out. There's one thing watching Liverpool this season. The rotation of possession, I haven't liked.

Under Yergen Klopp, we saw Liverpool playing this high press, and even to an extent last season we saw them playing this. But I've noticed this season, they're playing in almost like a horseshoe, and the wingers are always coming inside. They've got quality in the wide areas. You look at Gapot, you look at Sala, opposite wings, opposite feet. The natural reaction is to always come inside

and Nottingham Forest drove them inside at the weekend. I don't know how they played tonight and they played within the width of the 18-yard box. There was no natural width because everything was coming inside and it was easy to defend against. Lee, driven inside tonight? It's not going to take me long to drive away from...

No, no, not you. No, no. No. No. I meant me driving away from the ground then. No, no, no. I meant Paul's point that the Wiggers were driven inside, not how long it was going to take for you to drive home? I appreciate it. You can tell where his mind is. I appreciate it.

It was a brilliantly phrased question, but anyhow. I was trying to just think of positives, and the only positive is that it will be a very quick drive away from the ground. Yeah, point taken on the Wingers. And also, when you look at Liverpool going forwards, they're wide players tonight so, so predictable. I mean, Eckerti K tried his best down the centre. Isak did nothing when he came on to replace him.

And then when you look at Gakpo and Seller, they got one trick in from the left on his right foot, Gakpo, in from the right on his left foot, Seller. And it was so, so easy to defend against. It was so, so predictable. And that was where the moves were breaking down. Because Siboslaya get them to the 18 yards line. They didn't look too bad.

And then they come to the final third and they were all over the place at times. So, so easy to defend against. Thank you, Lee. I obviously again appreciate that this hasn't been your game this evening and I think Gerrard's words on TNT are interesting aren't they? Each defeat

it comes closer to being a crisis unless the manager can find answers and stability in his team it is going to continue and unfortunately for him and for Liverpool that 400, 450 million pounds that was spent in the summer is weighing very heavily on them you know by far and away

a record sum for any football club to spend in any transfer window and they don't seem to be able to find the right blend. But listen, over the course of the decades, they are by no means the first team that has won a championship title well in England and then

really fallen away. And I do think again, you have to mention the Diego Jotter situation because of the fact I thought it was quite telling when Andy Robertson was interviewed after the Scotland game the other week. You know, I think it just goes to show how close it is to the front of their minds. It's also inconceivable, I think, that that group of players will not, at some stage, get things going

to an extent. You know, probably the league title has gone, but they are going to progress in the Champions League, and there could yet be a dangerous beast in the Champions League this season. This is what Arna Slot had to say post-match. I think it's a shock for everyone, for the players, for the journalist over here, for me, for everyone, this is a shock. That is very, very, very unexpected if you look at the quality we are having. This is the lack of confidence? I didn't see that in the first half. Of course, it's hard if you concede straight after losing 3-0 straight into this game, you can see the goal.

But I saw the mentality that these players have shown so many times since I'm here, came back in a way you would like to come back. So created chances, we kept them on their half. And after another setback by conceding the 2-1, I also saw us creating chances again to score the 2-2. But in the end of the game, I did saw that it affected maybe one or two players that we were 3-1-4-1 now. Yeah, that's true.

I think it's always about the team. We can all do better. I think this goes for everyone, including myself. So I don't think this is the time to emphasize on individual errors. It's more the time to talk about the team instead of the individual errors because individual errors are made in football

and we have to make sure that if we make them, we react or make it up. I think that's the better word to make it up. And so that it doesn't, lead to a goal and if it does lead to a goal that we are good enough then to come back into the game and that's a team thing and not an individual thing. If any manager around the world loses football games, let alone so many as we've lost, it's quite normal that people have an opinion about that and if that's fair or not fair that's

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use my charm. Gifted at Gab. Games got the Steve Bracknell podcast. Watch on YouTube. Listen on BBC Sounds. On the Football Daily podcast. Champions League debrief with Mark Chapman. Okay, let's touch on the final English team involved this evening. And Alistair Bruce Ball on any other night, a game that had eight goals would probably not be filling the last four minutes.

Sorry. And a red card. A red card right at the end of the game as well for Lucas Hernandez. But no, PSG 5, Spurs 3 is the final score. And I know Paul Robinson's commentated on the game tonight, Mark, so I'll be interested to see what, you know, he thinks. I think there's definitely some positives to be taken from the Spurs' performance, particularly given, you know, what happened in the North London Derby at the weekend.

But at the end this evening, they shipped five goals. They were well beaten by a better team. But it was an improved showing, I think. And actually, I think they'll be a little disappointed, actually, with some of the goals they've conceded. They were 2-1-up, five minutes into the second half, got it back to 2-2 PSG. Then Spurs gave the ball away just outside their own box for the Fabian Ruiz goal, which put PSG 3-2 in front, and then they failed to clear a corner for the next one.

Randall Coelumwani scored his first two goals for Spurs, on loan from PSG, of course, so that was bound to happen. But I think that's encouraging. He was also part of an excellent move for the first goal for Spurs, heading to strike partner Richarlerson to score. But in terms of the game, I think you always felt PSG had it with. in their grasp to step up a couple of gears, take control whenever they wanted. That's what they did.

Vitini got the hat trick and their second in the Champions League table, three points behind Arsenal. So there are two things then, aren't the Paul Robinson really? If you take this game in isolation, okay, they've gone toe to toe with the European champions for an hour, an hour or more. And okay, they've lost in the end of ship five goals, but they are the European champions. Or you can't take this game in isolation. You take it as part of what has gone on over the last few weeks.

which would you do? If Sunday hadn't happened, there's no discussion over this game because Spurs set up we thought originally they'd play a back five when the teams came out. They didn't play a back five. They played a midfield that had legs in Archie Gray and Berk, Val and Saar. They had three very willing runners

that would sit in between the gaps in the back four whilst also joining in with Moani and Richarlison and offer an attacking threat, which is how they got the first goal down the left hand side. Really good play from Birkval and Archie Gray. An unselfish piece of of play from Moherney. For 60, 62 minutes. Tottenham were in this game. They'd conceded two extremely good goals from

Vittina, which any team could have conceded. It's bliss. They're playing against the European champions. It was always going to be tough. 62 minutes, they went toe to toe to toe and then inexplicable defending the way that they tried to play out from the back. Vicario's initial pass to Romero, and then he gives Sara a pass with a blue light on it into the centre of midfield, easily dispossessed, straight into Fabian Ruiz, who finished. And again, once again, defending from Tottenham from a corner, it was an out-swinging corner. It went all the way across the six-yard box, and it was the easiest task for Paco to put the ball in the back of the net. Defending was awful

and spurs were the master of their own downfall after being in a really good position an hour into the game. From that point on it just turned into two heavyweight boxes slugging each other. It was a brilliant game. And actually Paul, that's exactly what Thomas Frank said to television afterwards. For 60 minutes it looked like the perfect plan. I'm pleased with the performance. It was a fantastic response to a bad performance in the last game but the frustrating part is when we could have taken points we made mistakes with some the goals. And that's the thing that he will actually weirdly and strangely take away from this

game. He'll have come away from the Arsenal game at the weekend, scratching his head going, where did that performance come from? I didn't get anything from my players. I'd given them a game plan. Okay, it might not have worked, but I didn't see anything at all. Whereas tonight, he got something from his players for an hour. The game plan worked. Individual defensive mistakes.

He can walk away from that tonight. He'll analyze that game and go, okay, that's what went wrong, that's what went wrong. We did that well and that well. It wasn't a polished performance. Granted, they've conceded five goals. but three of them, arguably, including the handball that give away the penalty, was avoidable and it was their own doing. But for 60, 62 minutes, once again, they've gone head-to-head with PSG.

And we can get some reaction from Paris now. Pleased with the performance, it was the reaction I wanted from the players from the team. Been working very hard on that, the players, the staff, me, to make sure that we responded well and bounced back because that's crucial after a bad performance. Today I saw more identity of the team. team I want to create. We want to create. Much more character, personality, aggressiveness. Three words you need to have in any team no matter how you want to do, how you want to play,

whatever formation, whatever. Today we saw it. That I'm pleased with. I think it was a performance that was to, I was up there where we could get something out of the game, a draw or win. So that's a little frustrating thing that we concede some goals. Of course, one with a little bit of margin from Virginia. I'm not putting it to. not top corner but top top top top corner and then of course the goal three and four those are the one we definitely to to avoid if you want to get something out of here but something to build on strikers scoring two goals the whole team I think all performed well archie gray Lucasberg well positive we played against them a decent team where they have one Belong de

all winner I think the next one is playing in midfield wow what a player did parisangerman look like European champions to you too? Yeah, I think they did. I mean, the changes that they made. Nantu, the youngster, the 18-year-old, played up front with Barcola, Keveratskalia, and then they made changes. They brought Ramos off the bench, and then they brought the Ballandoor winner, Dembele off the bench.

It showed the quality that they have, the quality they have in depth. And in Vitania, they've got a Portuguese midfielder who has got a hat trick tonight. He looked dangerous when they got their noses in front. He controlled the pace of the game. And they're certainly going to be a threat once again this season. Worrying for them, Mendez went off injured at half-time. Hernandez came on he was the one

that got the red card I mean it was an inexplicable elbow into the face of Jabby Simons you got to cross him got goal side of him and it almost took us

back to the 80s it was an old throwback look where the attacker is put your elbow out and give him a good smack in the face it was an awful elbow referee had no choice

but to send him off but yeah PSG they look good and they're going to be there or thereabouts again this season Paul Ali Matt John and Lee

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