Football Daily - Women’s Euros: Wales & England prepare to face off in St Gallen

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

Ben Haines, Ellen White and Jen Beattie talk Group B as Spain finish top with Italy second and both making it through to the quarter-finals. Ellen and Jen reflect on England so far and what they will come up against when they face Wales on Sunday in St Gallen. The team chat who is standing out as favourites so far, plus the significance of hosts Switzerland making it out of the groups for the first time in their history. Hear from inside both camps, England’s Grace Clinton and Wales forward Hannah Cain.Timecodes: 01:00 Ben, Ellen & Jen reunited! 03:10 Group B is decided! 11:00 Ruthless England 19:50 Grace Clinton 25:30 England v Wales emotion 30:25 Hannah Cain 35:00 What it means to players families

This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. deal ratings and price history. So you know a great deal when you see one. That's cargurus.ca. Cargurus.ca. BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts. The Football Daily podcast with Ben Haynes at UEFA Women's Euro 2025. Welcome along to the Football Daily as we near the end of the group stages at the Euros in Switzerland. Group B, the latest to be decided, and it means that Spain and Italy have gone through. We will get stuck into all of it on this episode. We'll also get into a little bit of Group D as well. England, France, Netherlands and Wales, all mathematically at this stage can make it through and

I'm joined by England record-goal scorer Ellen White how are you? I'm very well Ben how are you? Yeah I'm good, I'll be around the bush, you're not a night owl you're not someone who's sitting there wired gonna be up until 3am so I'm gonna keep this super sharp for you and and Jen Beatty Who's a little bit behind? How are you? I'm great. It's mid-afternoon for me I'll bring all the energy. Yeah, please you bring the energy. Listen

I'm letting people in behind the curtain once again. Jen Beatty looks so unbelievably glam joining us on our call today. But I have been asked by the Five Live team to remind you, Jen, that when you come out to join us, that there is no team of people here that are waiting on costume to bring your suit, provide your incredibly sharp suits for you. So you'll have to bring that yourself. The thing is, there's absolutely no chance that I can do this on my own like hair and makeup whatsoever so now I'll be back to the scruffy bun, playing face mate, yeah no it's all good. I wish though it's been an absolute dream to have hair and makeup every day, the

wardrobe, everything has been amazing so but no I wish I could have that every day. If you don't follow Jen and Ellen on Instagram or Steph Horton, make sure you go on and just have a little look at these two absolute power squads that have been posted over the course of the last 48 hours. Everyone looks so sharp. It's absolutely ridiculous. Is it like, I was going to say when we record the women's football weekly usually we come in like team dress, which is just a white t-shirt and that's your lot whereas over the course of the last few days you guys have been absolutely making me look like a proper oath with your outfits. So Jen when you get out here I want you to turn it down a little bit.

I have to ask though Ben have you got tickets to Ellen's gun show or? Because those are all... I did tell her this the other day when she was out in Zurich, I did tell her that clearly the boxing's been kept up. Yeah. I know, I didn't want to say it. You can always leave. Even before boxing, even before boxing I was... Shout out to my PT, shout out to Gareth.

Right, let's chat some football. Good results tonight for Spain and for Belgium, but not enough for either Belgium or Portugal to overturn the points deficit that they needed. So it does mean that Spain go through top of the group and then Italy go through in second. Spain running out in the end with a really comfortable victory over Italy but they did cause a little bit of a stir at the beginning of the game. How's any part of you for maybe two minutes that thought after Italy went into the lead that they might be

able to hold on? I was very hopeful. There were some great passages of play, great attack in football at times. They got through the lines from Spain, so I was willing them to keep pressing and keep moving the ball and keep that energy. But then Formelislae, Spain score, so I was like, oh no. But no, I think credit to Italy, cause they went for it. Like they did really try and go for it, but just the way Spain then got their rhythm and started moving the ball through the thirds and just that intricate player pass and move.

And it's just amazing to watch, but there is some frailties in that Spanish team and the shape. And if you are able to get through those lines, wow, you know there can be goals to score but it's about keeping that intensity and it's so hard to do when you've got a team that loves to possess the ball and it's so hard to keep that for 90 minutes. That's what's most interesting about Spain though because they've come into this tournament

as favourites and they've shown it, right? no denying any of that but to concede two against Belgium and now again against Italy I understand they made so many changes and that causes vulnerability all over the pitch but can you say that okay maybe they've just not been tested as much yet because I think further down the line if you're the likes of England, Germany, other top teams, France you'll be looking at that back line and being like, we can do something here. They're always going to score against teams that are lower ranked than them because they have the ability to break down a block. That's their bread and butter. But for me, for them to have conceded three goals across two games in a group game where

they should not necessarily be doing that. If you're a top team in the rest of this tournament, you're thinking, okay, we can score against them. This was the fascinating thing, right? When Italy took the lead, suddenly it meant that the top half of the draw got very, very interesting for a little bit because it would have meant that Spain and potentially England and Germany all crammed into that top half of the draw. And that would have been absolutely wild. As it goes now, it means that a host, Switzerland, will face Spain. And, Elz, having been out here, I just wonder what that potentially does for the tournament because Spain will go into that one as favourites, but just from an atmosphere point of view.

Well, firstly, I think Switzerland will be very frustrated because they faced them in the knockouts in 2023 and now they've got them again. Do you know what? I think it's just going to be really exciting. It seems like the fans are all on board when I've been out there. It's just been an incredible atmosphere. So I'm hoping that game just brings so much atmosphere and excitement. But yeah, obviously you feel like Spain will run out winners, but there is some really exciting talent in that Switzerland team at the same time. So I think it will be a good game. I think it would just be disappointing, obviously,

to potentially see the hosts leave, but I think for them, it's another major step in their progression as a nation to get through to another knockout stage in a major tournament, just to continue that development of those young players as well. But it's going to be a tough ask for Switzerland, but it'll be interesting to see how they set up. But yeah, I can only see Spain kind of coming out as winners

in that game. We'll go through at the end of the pod, I'll kind of whiz through the groups and get everyone up to speed on where the lay of the land is currently. Um, but one thing I did want to do first, so Spain do eventually run out three on winners goals from Del Castillo, Guijarro, and then Ellen White, Esther Gonzalez, has she surprised you because I mean, I suppose on some level you'll be watching her finish for the goal tonight and thinking, do you know what? I was pretty much spot on about her in that her finishing at times can be a bit wayward, but she has now got herself into a really good position in the race for the Golden Boot. Do you know how many times me and Callum had a conversation, I said, do you know what,

I said to Jen they don't have a number nine and then Gonzales scores again and I'm like, oh my God, I look like an idiot. I said, she's so right, Jen is very good at her job. She knows what she's talking about. No, no, I'll put my hands up and say, yeah, totally, that she's been phenomenal this tournament. You know, she's come on this evening for, I want to say, like 10 minutes and scored.

So she's up there running for the race for Golden Boot. And, yeah, she's been like a breath of fresh air because I feel like, for a number of major tournaments before when I've been playing they just lack that number nine that brings them goals, prolific goal scorer, clinical in front of goal and they seem to have that in Gonzalez so it's been really exciting and yeah totally.

Jen you're right, I'll put my hands up. She's a phenomenal talent but she has her work cut out because there's some other amazing forwards that are also up there with the goalscoring as well. And Pitellas probably doesn't want someone else to steal it as well in the Spanish side. We're seeing a version of Alexa Pitellas that I want to say is almost eclipsing the levels that she was at a few years ago. If we just flip over to the other game in Group E, so Belgium won 2-1 against Portugal, but Jen there was a bit of drama there. At the end of the game, it suddenly got a bit frantic because Portugal

was suddenly in with a chance of potentially going through. Yeah, well, I think they had to come back. They had to score a lot of goals for me, Portugal. And that's, I think they got caught off guard by Belgium. Belgium started really well, got an early goal. Tessa Wulhardt for me has been phenomenal this tournament, genuinely. She stood out. That was some finish, wasn't it? Some finish and even for the VAR goal that got disallowed, the ball in the box, we talk about that all the time, put a ball in between the back line and the goalkeeper and that

is so hard to defend and she did that. The goal was disallowed. But Belgium for me have impressed. Portugal have been the complete opposite for me. They've conceded far too many goals against Spain. For the quality that they have in there, whether it's Diana Silver, Jessica Silver coming off the bench, players just being so vulnerable at the back, that's all I can put it down to. Nazare, I thought impressed me a lot but still couldn't get the finish. She was kind of that spark for Portugal going forward through the midfield. I know she's had a big injury, come off the back of four months being out of football, so you always have to accommodate that into a conversation. But Portugal just lacked quality. We'd just spoken about, okay, Spain, they're the best team doing it right now. Way of pass, quality,

creating chances. So that's almost like our standard now when we're watching games, but then Portugal just didn't have that. They created more chances than any other game, but once Belgium kind of switched onto that, they went back into their sort of 5-3-2 formation, it was really difficult to break down. Portugal just didn't take their chances and at this level of football now, you put yourself in a really hard position. But credit to Belgium, they were out of the tournament going into this game virtually nothing to play for but I've said it so many times how many times a professional footballer ever gone into a game wanting to draw or lose they went out to get that

game to win it and they did so for me all the credit went to Belgium. There was a moment at the end of that game that was really really really nice to watch as a neutral. But the game sitting at 1-0, Portugal then have to throw the kitchen sink at it to go and try and sneak a win. And at the same time, Belgium just out of pride trying to do exactly the same thing. So you're getting this wonderful counter attack, counter attack, counter attack, turned into a bit of a basketball game in the end. It did, but it needed the experience of Kaiman. She was the perfect player to pop up in the box and it was a great interception playing really deep within a back five but a back five can be so

effective when someone steps out and that's what Kaiman did. Great interception, carried the ball virtually the entire way, mixed up in the box but for me it was a great finish. She saved the first one but the second one just put it away a great finish. She saved the first one but the second one just put it away. You know that number nine typical when you watch the ball come out of the air and you've got all the time and what do you do, you could scuff it but she had the composure at that moment. So that for me was one of the best moments I think, especially when they just had two goals chopped off from VAR from a Belgian perspective to go and get the win, still keep going to get it. No,

I was really happy for Belgium. Group B done and dusted then, Spain go through with nine points, three wins from three, but a really impressive goal difference. Fourteen goals, four and three against Italy go through in second place, and Belgium third, Portugal fourth. The only group that is left with that total jeopardy and that every team could potentially go through is Group D. Games to come on Sunday there, England take on Wales and St. Gallen, France taking on the Netherlands as well. France leading the way with six points and two wins, England second at the moment. And the way that the group stage works is head-to-head first. So because England have beaten the Netherlands, they sit ahead of the Netherlands,

it will go down to goal difference if all is square at the end. So for example, if the Netherlands were to go and beat France and be on six points, and if England were to go and beat Wales, it would mean that France, England, Netherlands, all on six points, then it would go down to goal difference. And we haven't had a chance, Ellen, to properly look into that England game. Now that dust has settled after that performance against the Netherlands,

is there anything that maybe we didn't give enough credit to at the time that you want to give a shout out to now? I feel like there's been obviously a lot of credit to a lot of the players and I think the whole team. I don't know, there is a lot of standout players obviously, Hannah Hampton for a distribution and credit to some of them passes were just absolutely outrageous. Obviously Lauren James stepping up and scoring some two brilliant goals. So, you know, for me it's probably Alessia Russo, the standout performer.

She got player of the match, but just her work rate and her selflessness and three assists as well. You know, I've been there as a number nine. It's a lot of hard work, but for her to show up for the team, start that press, her hold-up play, her runs in behind, her connection with Ella Toon as well who again, huge shout out to her as well, grabbing and taking hold of that number 10 shirt.

But yeah I think Alessia was just a proper number nine performance, everyone be saying oh she didn't score but she was in the right position. She had some chances. She had a goal chalked off as well for VAR. So yeah, I think full credit to her, but just the application, I think, from all the players was such a massive turnaround to what we saw against France.

I think it's been probably said enough, isn't it? But I just love it. It's just a proper English performance, which I just love. Just that fight desire and passion. And it was almost like we were never leaving that pitch, not ever, without three points. It was just really nice to see. I thought they got the press spot on.

Netherlands want to play out, whether it's Dominic Janssen or through the middle with Jackie Groenen. They want to play the ball on the ground. They clearly tried to get the left side. They tried to think out of the screen with Jez Carter, maybe a little bit weaker on that left hand side, so that was a clear tactic, get them down the right hand side. Did it once, almost worked, second time didn't execute it properly, but for me, England didn't let the Netherlands breathe on the ball. I thought the press was brilliant,

like genuinely that was one of the biggest standouts for me, that's why Ella Toon I think coming into that position, because that was a hard place to be in. Serena Vigman doesn't make many, doesn't change her starting 11, so when you're the one that's then in it, that was pressure on Elyton's shoulders and I thought Georgia Stanley high up the pitch pressing, Elyton exact same. So for me, they didn't let any control go towards the Netherlands, they didn't let any control go towards Netherlands. They didn't let any passage of play happen I'm pretty sure I might have fact-checked this but Viv Miedema only made something like nine touches the entire game So if you're keeping quiet a player of her caliber that you know

That's what I loved about this game So many players have either playing in England currently for the Dutch national team or have played in it So the familiarity of cross both teams, whether it be Lauren Hemp against Kasperi or Leo Williamson against Viv Miro, there was a lot of, okay, I know what you're going to do. And England matched that down to a T. I thought their press was brilliant. Didn't let Netherlands on the bill ball whatsoever. Did you have that in when you played England in 2019 did that factor into things? Did you before the game

were you thinking we know every one of these players so well that I feel like we should be able to almost combat some of that stuff? I feel like that's a little bit more difficult. Scotland we didn't have the same success as the Netherlands. You're talking about that's a different game it's hard to compare. Netherlands have won the Euros in 2017 and then got to a World Cup final two years later. Exact same with it. You're talking about two, and no disrespect. I love playing for Scotland, absolutely loved it, but it was, yes, I knew the players. You could say that about Ireland, Wales, Northern Ireland as well. A lot of players who come and play in the WSL.

Do I think it helps knowing who you're going to come up against? Yes, to an extent. You can predict a certain amount of plays, but still the level was still too different for me. And that's me just being honest. But the Netherlands and England are much similar quality in terms of what players can do on the pitch. Well, this is one of the things that really shocked me because I thought the Netherlands took to the Wales game with such aggression, the way that they took

Wales apart after they'd nicked the first goal, I was really, really fascinated by how tentative they were, Ellen, how little they seemed to rise to the physical challenge of the game. It was like a flip reversal. It was almost like what happened when England faced France. England did what France did to them, to the Netherlands, and just showed that physicality and that competitiveness and that aggression.

Yeah, and I just don't think that Netherlands could stand it really. And we had Tess Mithag with one of our pundits on TV and she was just saying we've got all our best players on the pitch, it's just they're not performing, they're not able to perform because England are just stifling the way that Netherlands play and I totally agree with what Jen's saying. It was just ruthless, it was just non-stop and it was really amazing to see an England team go from minute one to 90 plus, not giving up, not giving an opposition a moment to breathe which was just so exciting for an

English fan to watch and see and just be like, wow, this is our standard now and this is our level. So yeah, Netherlands, they just couldn't get in the game. You've got to give credit to England there and just say, we've had a bad day. It's the same when we face France. France outperformed England and England had a horrendous day. It's just giving flowers to those teams

at the end of the day that are world-class. And I can imagine that Netherlands will want to put that right when they face France on Sunday. The Football Daily Podcast. With Ben Haynes. At UEFA Women's Euro 2025. Five Live has the perfect lineup of podcasts to accompany the Euros. All the latest analysis, interviews and debate from Switzerland in the Football Daily podcast.

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With Ben Haynes. At UEFA Women's Euro 2025. Yeah, massively important game for the Netherlands. There's still an opportunity for them to progress and a huge night for England ahead in Group D as they take on Wales. And we can hear from inside the England camp now, Katie Smith caught up with midfielder Grace Clinton. Obviously after the win you're going to be happy but I think it's quite similar like we're still focused the mood's still very much like we have one more game and it's also like a farmer for us you know we need to win it so we're still very focused but obviously you're going to be happy after a win and I think all the girls are feeling more like themselves, you know, like that performance is more like what we are capable

of so it's nice that we could sort of do our talking on the pitch and show the world, you know, this is what we actually can perform like. Was there a sense of relief at all after that? Yeah, obviously, you know, it was a big game. We needed to win and Netherlands are an amazing team. But I think relief, we were proud and we were also just like, wow, like what a performance. Maybe a bit defiant as well because there were people saying that wasn't good enough against France. Yeah, and I think I like to be in that position, you know, when people judge her and you sort of like a bit of an underdog.

People like, oh, you know, maybe ruled us out a little bit after the France performance but then we go out there and we shut everyone up and just yeah like I said do our talking on the pitch and show them no this is actually us. And it's not just any game coming up on Sunday it's against a home nation it's against Wales it's against some of your current and former teammates as well You know a lot of those those players in the side. So does that make it any trickier? Yeah Well, I know what the capable of I know how good some of the Wales players are and played against them played with them And obviously people speak about a rivalry, but I think the main mood in our camp is we have a lot of respect for them

We know a lot of them We know how good they can be and they can cause problems like they showed against France. So yeah, I think all of us are very focused and know what the task at hand is. So the approach stays the same would you say going into this versus the Netherlands versus France? Yeah 100%, like this is international football and anything can happen. So we have to be on top of our game to beat any team. And Wales have really, really good players, you know,

and they're a really good team. When they turn up, they cause problems. So we need to be on top of our game. And yeah, it's another final for us. This is your first major tournament, Grace. So did you have expectations coming into it? And do you think there's anything that's been massively different? Yeah, we have expectations, but also we have a lot of meetings, like

in the season leading up to this tournament, you've got to prepare. So like we had a lot of meetings about various things, whether it be media stuff, what to do, like on your socials and stuff like and also stuff on the pitch. So we had a lot of meetings preparing us because there was seven people who haven't been to a tournament before. So we obviously had a lot of preparation time going into it

in the year. So we, by the older players, the more experienced players, by our staff, we got prepared, we got told what it would look like, sort of thing. So I think we got a lot of information. So I think we had like a lot of information. So I sort of knew what to expect when I come here and start the tournament. Have you been enjoying it?

Yeah, it's been amazing. We've been hearing a lot about leaders in the group, and particularly Georgia Stanway the other day talking about Lucy Bronze and what impact she's having on everyone in the team. And it looks like she's a pretty special character for you as well. Yeah, Lucy is massive for me. She's like a second mum, but one that tells you off. You know?

Oh no, really? No, she doesn't tell me off, but she like, she doesn't say- Put you in your place. Yeah, she puts me in my place, but Lucy's just like, she's amazing because she like, Lucy's not over the top. She doesn't smother you. She like keeps herself to herself. I think she leads in how she carries herself

and she leads by example, I would say, but if you need anything, she's always there and she gives such good advice and she's just so experienced and she's an amazing footballer so I think it's hard for anyone not to have so much respect for her. Because we did hear you were trying to take filling out the wall chart duties off her

and she wasn't having that, so I just wondered how's that going? She allowed you near the pen yet. I seen her yesterday like on the chair like filling it all out and I thought, oh my god, she's in her element. But no, I was trying to manifest, so I was like, right, let's put us in the final. There we go, manifest them. Oh, what, you actually wrote England in the final? No, I took her little badge and I was like, right, there we go, let's sit there.

And she was like, no, put it back. Oh, so that was like Mother Lucy coming out. She was like, that's my job. I was like, fine. That is unbelievably brave from Grace Clinton. But I got a bit nervous just listening to that else. You can't put England in the final before it's happened. And you can't mess up Lucy's chart, absolutely not.

I love the manifestation, I'm down for that. Don't take away Lucy Bronson's wall chart duties. Yeah, I just think you can't put England in the final before this happens. It's just manifestation is great and all that, but you can do that in your mind. Or you can say it out loud, but don't actually physically do it on the chart. But fair play to her. She obviously believes in the team, which is amazing. But yeah, that is Lucy's job and you can't mess with Lucy.

Yeah. And got to get through, got to get through Wales first as well. A huge challenge there because it will be one of those games, Jen, that could become quite emotional. It could become quite fractious because of the nature of it being a rivalry. Yeah, and I've actually, I know Ellen always had one eye on this game as being like, what can England do? Because, you know, it's hard to come in off the back of two games and then play against a low block. And I always can relate to the Welsh perspective because you're the underdog, right? And I always think the hardest thing for us that we had as Scotland, both 2017 and 2019,

was our opening game was against England. So we had no time to sort of grow into the tournament which is what Wales have had. So I think that it's a really positive way for Wales to really take advantage of what they've learned and they've got their moment, they've got their goal through Jess Fishlock and that was unreal for it to see in that sense but they'll have learned a lot from these two games so now they're gonna come up against, okay they've seen England turn it around and do a brilliant performance against the Netherlands but they've known the kind of caliber of group they've been in, group of death, group D, so they've known that every single game

they've had to be at the top of their game but there's just been such huge boost for them to be honest from from a personal standpoint watching watching them play whether it's Jess Fischlott getting the goal or seeing Sophie Engel come off the bench after being out for nine months with her ACL having not played a minute of competitive football all season. So I think for them, I hope they've grown into it and know that they can put up a really strong performance and it comes down to top quality that they're in the hardest group, but they'll have known that coming into it. So for me it's ending it on a high. We saw Belgium do that, they were out. Belgium were out before any football was kicked today and they still won their

last group game. Whether I think Wales can do that I'm not quite sure but do I think they'll make it really hard for England? Absolutely. I was thinking about like what their goals would be and obviously firstly it was getting to a major tournament and then it was, that national anthem by the way, Wales, Netherlands was outrageous and just hearing the Red Wall singer is just, and the same against France, it's just phenomenal. But then the next thing would be scoring in, you know, a major tournament and who is it? It's Jess Fishlock.

And also to add to the drama, it goes to Vaar, what's going to happen? Just to add a sprinkle bit more drama on it. And the way they just celebrate together on the bench with everyone jumping on, it was just, it was such a lovely moment to kind of witness as well. And I feel like what Jen said, I totally agree. They've grown each game. They've learned from what happened against Netherlands and yeah I think you've got to put the the scoreline to one side. It's about what they can do collectively as a group and what are the little things that they've improved and developed and learnt from playing obviously world-class teams. So I think it's a lot about their development as well because you don't want this to be

their only and last chance ever to be at because you don't want this to be their only and last chance ever to be at a major tournament. This has to be a standard for Wales, for the FAW to support them and to help fund them and give them more opportunities to be able to go to major tournaments. So yeah, full credit to the team. It's just that they're really showcasing what Wales are about and how amazing Wales as a country is as well. I think what's interesting as well, Ellen, going into this last game is the pressure's off. When you're out of the tournament, you know, again I saw that with Belgium and the pressure is off, but it's about taking these experiences and learning as

much as you can. I think the worst thing that I can say from being part of Scotland and qualifying for tournaments is not building off the back of it. You have to build off the back of it. So it's not about throwing this game, it's about putting in a performance that you're turning around to your association and being like, invest in us. We're at a major tournament. It's not about that's just good enough to get there. It's about, no, we want to be at a World Cup. Watch us go and perform against England. And so you have heads turning in an association to reinvest. I think Rhianne Wilkinson has done an unreal job with them getting to a major. But for me, that's always been my biggest

thing looking back at Scotland and seeing them not qualify for major tournaments and they're not at the Euros. Why? It's because the investment wasn't there for when we did do it. And I think that's the biggest thing for Wales. So I think the pressure is off. They were in the hardest group. They've still got one game left to play and they want to prove to everyone that they deserve to be at major tournaments again. They've got the quality of the players because now they're going to be in transition. Who knows if Jess Flishlock will be there for much longer as part of that team. So how can they move on and develop and look towards what's next? And it starts with this game.

I think you're so right as well, Ellen, that the national anthem so far has just been incredible to watch. I can't wait to see the two sets of fans on, on Sunday evening. It will be incredibly special as we move into pre-match there. Um, let's go into the Wales Cup now. It's been a really long journey for Hannah Kane. She's suffered two ACL injuries in the last few years but now part of a Wales team at their first major tournament and a huge game to come on Sunday night. Obviously it's a rivalry, arguably our biggest rivalry and one we're so excited for. I've not played in one yet so I can't wait.

Obviously I know a couple of the girls and we play against these week in, week out for club as well so it's not something unknown. It's all to play for and we could really upset the group and prove a lot of people wrong and I think we know that we're capable of getting a result and that's what we'll go for. Now then the big question, Bob. Bob's out on Saturday, I told you this, I told him that you might interview him, he was so excited, he was like oh my god, can I come out earlier? Who is Bob? Bob's my granddad, like he's a massive part of my life. He's a massive reason why I'm here and how I'm able to play for Wales. I wouldn't be here without him, so I've got a lot to

owe to him. He's just been a big part of my life since we were young and things like that. He's so proud every time I speak to him. He asks me when the next game is. He's always been a rugby fan, like you know how it is in Wales, especially his era. All they ever did was watch rugby, play rugby, and it's massive, but it just shows,

even in his generation and our generation, how much women's football's grown. Like for my granddad and my grandad's friends and my great uncle, for them to be sat watching us play in stadiums, in pubs, it's something that I would have never ever thought would be even possible to happen. And it's not just them, there's so many people watching this game now that would never have happened even when I was growing up. To see how far we've come and for things like that we talk about inspiring the next generation and things like that.

I think we're actually making an older generation proud. It's not just like the young ones, it's massive and it's the whole of Wales, it's every generation. To see the impact that we're having across the whole of the country is just unbelievable, it's so surreal honestly. Catherine Hearth with the questions there to Hannah Kane. It is really lovely hearing about how it's not just the team, it's the team behind the team and then the family behind the team behind the team. Can you both just give me your experiences of what it's like to have your family there at a major tournament? Firstly I was going, Hannah who's Bob? I really want to know who Bob was, she like drew it

out for ages. Oh my gosh who is it? Oh that was so sweet that was and obviously for him to come out and watch our play is going to be really special on Sunday. But yeah, for families, it's absolutely nerve wracking, is what my mum and dad and husband always say. It's obviously amazing. And I feel very lucky that I've had family and friends come out and watch at major tournaments.

And they've been able to travel the world and see very different places that maybe they wouldn't have ever traveled and seen before. It's amazing that they're able to build relationships with other friends and families as well when they all come together. It's like a little community. It's so lovely to see and to witness. But since I've retired, my mum's been like, God, it's so nice just watching on the TV and you're not there because it is just so nerve-racking for us as as obviously the mum and dad sitting there watching you obviously want your daughter and the team to do so well so they're like nervous wrecks but yeah that they've had an amazing experiences traveling the world and watching so it's it's it's it's really special for those friends and families, especially for

those Wales friends and families. First major tournament they're able to witness the Valtlera, Euros in Switzerland, it's so special. For your dad, do you reckon it was more stressful for him having played an elite level sport to be stood on the sideline being like I can't affect this My dad hates watching like he can't he really struggled with like I think also from an injury perspective And I think like he comes from rugby right which is way more brutal But he was always worried about me heading the ball or getting hurt and he was a bit of like a warrior in that sense bless him

But he was way worse watching my brother for sure at Rugby. But no, so my dad always struggled watching whether it was club or anything. So for me, and I also missed 2017 through injury with the Euros with Scotland. So I think I had this massive fear of, you know of that happening again. So to actually make the World Cup and have family there was genuinely just one of the best experiences ever. Because family can come and watch you play for club and I always moved away, right? I never played in Scotland really as an adult.

So there was always the traveling element but I will never forget. I'm about to hold this picture up to camera because obviously my cousins came out and my parents came out, but they rented a boat in Rennes because obviously France is famous for all its canals and traveling down canals and I got sent this picture day before. I think we played Japan and my cousins were coming and they rented this boat and just this picture. Oh my word, the BTs on tour.

Yeah, and all the Scotland flags just then. I was just like, that will just live forever of having being at a major tournament because it doesn't happen much. We're a small country and we haven't made it very often. So to have family there to support was just one of the best memories ever. Being sent that picture, knowing my family were there to support and just one of the best memories ever. Being sent that picture knowing my family were there to support and watch the games, regardless of what happened because the pressure wasn't really as much, we didn't have as much pressure as England,

right? England were there to win tournaments and to lift it. This was our first World Cup. So to have family there holding the Scotland flag, wearing BT shirts, retro shirts, everything, it was just awesome. This is one of the things that people might not realise as well is that when those those videos go out and showing who's made the squad, the squad announcement videos, it's not just the players that are getting selected, it's their families getting selected as well. It's suddenly the whole group that's going to be going alongside. And you see it at every single game. So every game I've gone to so far, you see maybe 10 or 15 people in the shirt

of the player that they've come to support. So on match day one, I saw team Ajumang just walking around the city center. They're walking around in a group of maybe 10 of them, all with their name on the, on the back of the shirt. It's such a special thing. And it is, all with their name on the back of the shirt, it's such a special thing and it's only at Tournament Football that you really get the opportunity to see that, I think it's a really, really special thing. Just before we move on, a little reminder, coverage of England against Wales will be

on 5 Live on Sunday and that's an 8pm kick-off. We are very nearly at the end of the group stages so let me just remind everyone of where we're at. Norway and Switzerland through in group A and we know that the host Switzerland will now play Spain which is going to be an absolutely enormous match there. Group B was Spain and Italy, Group C was Sweden and Germany that have gone through, still remains to be seen. Who will go through first in that group and then in group D every single one of the teams could still go through at the moment. Lots of permutations that I'm sure will change over the course of the evening on Sunday night

as well. Just finally to finish up, who have been your favourites to watch so far? Spain, France, Sweden, Germany, England, anyone else in the tournament? Switzerland. Katoto charmed you didn't she on match day one Ellen? I love Katoto so much. She's so good. I've loved watching Switzerland actually. Yeah, some good players. Does he leave you all to be an old team mate, lead our line and have that pressure? We talk about small countries and not necessarily having the pressure. You're talking about a small country who have just made it out of the group for the first time in front of

host nation. No one wants to see the host nations go home, right? And they're just up for about to play Spain, so it might come crashing down pretty quickly. But to see them not just get out of the group, but get two wins back to back was really I thought Roy Taylor is being incredible I was going to say that, she's so good Imane Benet, really happy that she's coming to the WSL next season You've got players really really stepping up for Switzerland. So they've been Sheraton Leip as well Do you see that rottishness?

Outside of the obvious, Switzerland have been my favourite The thing with Leah Valte that I've absolutely loved is you can see that she has done everything to make sure that she is out on that pitch. She's taped up in about five different places and there's just no way that she was going to miss this tournament. It's been wonderful to see and wonderful to see that she's still having that impact that you hope that she would have. And that is where we'll leave it on the pod for today. Thanks so much to Elle's, thanks to Jen. The next one on the Football Daily Feed will be Katie Smith bringing you all of the latest from the Euros on match day minus one as England prepare for their last group match against

Wales with a place in the knockouts up for grabs.