Football Daily - Women’s Football Weekly: The big deadline day debrief
Episode Date: February 4, 2025From Chloe Kelly to Keira Walsh, it was one of the biggest Women's Super League transfer windows in history! Ellen White, Jen Beattie and Ben Haines are all together for the first time to digest the i...ns and outs of January 2025. WSL leaders Chelsea have strengthened even more, adding England midfielder Keira Walsh from Barcelona in another big-money move. Can anyone stop Sonia Bompastor's team and what does this side need to achieve in order to reach their potential? After posting a couple of emotional statements on social media surrounding her situation at Manchester City, Chloe Kelly completed an 11th-hour loan move to Arsenal. The team review a seven-goal thriller at the Joie Stadium, which was almost as chaotic as the transfer window, and Ellen and Jen help us understand different knee injuries after the news Georgia Stanway tore a lateral ligament and will be out for ‘several months.’ Timecodes: 02:30 - Keira Walsh is back in the WSL after a deadline day transfer to Chelsea 07:30 - How Chelsea are reaping the rewards of investing in their women’s team. 10:45 - Liverpool manager Matt Beard on what impact will Chelsea's spending could have on the league. 12:41 - What do Chelsea need to achieve in order to reach their potential? 14:18 - The Chloe Kelly transfer saga which ended in a loan move to Arsenal. 20:19 - A summary of the rest of the transfer window. 21:27 - Review of the weekend’s WSL action including a seven-goal thriller at the Joie Stadium. 25:57 - Ellen and Jen help us understand different knee injuries after the news Georgia Stanway tore a lateral ligament and will be out for ‘several months.’ 27:40 - Is there a natural replacement for Stanway in the England squad?BBC Sounds / 5 Live commentaries this week: Wed 5 Feb 2000 Newcastle v Arsenal in Carabao Cup, Thu 6 Feb 2000 Liverpool v Tottenham in Carabao Cup, Fri 7 Feb 2000 Man Utd v Leicester in FA Cup.
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Welcome to the Women's Football Weekly everyone and...
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The chemistry of all three of us being together.
On the Football Daily, the Women's Football Weekly.
With Ben Haines, Ellen White and Jen Beattie.
Welcome to the Women's Football Weekly, everyone. What a last week that was.
There are transfer windows when nothing happens, and then there are days when the entire window happens.
A January transfer window like no other, and so much so that we had
to get the band together in real life, in person. So for the first time, hello in person,
Ellen White and Jen Beattie all together. How nice is this?
This is so nice. I will say. Hi, guys.
And we've got you back for America as well. How cool.
Just for this.
Just for this.
Because the transfer window was so good. We had to fly you in specifically.
Both of you on TV at the weekend,
both on pundit duty.
How was the weekend?
Not going to lie, your game was wild.
My game was wild.
My game was absolutely wild.
Man City, Arsenal, penalties, seven goal thriller.
When you say penalties, we'll get into that.
Yeah, we will.
We'll get into that one.
Else, how did you get on?
I had to wait 82 minutes to get an own goal.
So you can probably tell how exciting my game was.
Magnificent.
Look, we are going to start with the transfer window
and the drama of deadline day.
It was a really, really exciting deadline day, wasn't it?
Go on, Els, what was your take on it?
Wild.
I feel like it was almost unprecedented in the women's game um like yeah it blew my mind
and obviously we'll talk about it won't we obviously chelsea like 1.3 million is insane um
and it just they just seem to have just the gold star of of the transfer window is unbelievable
they went into the window looking for a centre-back and a
central midfielder they've done okay jen they've they've got the best centre-back in the world and
one of the best midfielders in the world so they you know they they went in with exactly the plan
and came out with exactly who they wanted to and credit to them we've spoken about ambition so much
on this pod lately but they went in and got exactly what they wanted yeah i mean if you're
gonna use the word ambition i mean it's tough to top that isn't it you go 900 000 pounds or around
that fee for naomi germa and then follow it up with kira wall she won eight titles with barcelona
and that included back-to-back champions league titles and she's obviously played in the in the
wsl before and it's got wonderful history of the WSL aside from what
she's won she's also just a wonderfully composed player as well yeah definitely just to add more
absolute dynamo to uh to the Chelsea team yeah I think that they'll obviously miss kind of Sophie
Ingle was probably you where she would be the sixth essentially obviously she's out with the ACL but I
feel like she would fit perfectly into that sixth role be able to control the game threading those Yn ystod y llaw, byddai hi'n ystod y llaw, yn ystod y llaw. Ond rwy'n teimlo y byddai hi'n cyffwrdd yn hyfryd i'r llaw hwnnw.
Byddai hi'n gallu rheoli'r gêm, trefnu'r cyfnodau i'r cyfan.
Allwch chi ddychmygu Millie Bright, Naomi Gurman a Keira Walsh yn y ffrwd?
Mae'n anhygoel.
Ac yn amlwg, mae eu llaw yn rhyfeddol.
Fe wnaeth hi ddechrau o'r bench ac wedi gwneud ei ddibwys.
Ydych chi'n meddwl bod hi wedi gwneud un effaith yn unigol?
Ydych chi'n gweld ei ffordd o chwarae yn llwyddo i'r tîm? She came off the bench, right, and made her debut. Do you think she made an impact straight away? Did you see her style of play just sliding right into that team?
You could see almost instantly she was talking to everyone.
Yeah.
Kind of like being like, we're going to do this, this, this, and this.
Or like Hannah Hampton, she's like, no, we're going to slow down for a second.
Let's take a breather.
And then when she's on the ball, it's just her tempo, I think.
She's able to just dictate it so quickly.
And she was on for, what, 15 minutes 15 minutes and yes they did score in that time but I think it's her presence now
she's able to kind of be able and she's a bit more of a leader I'd say now as well
um from the experience she's obviously had at Barcelona playing with England so I think I think
she I think she's going to be really good for this Chelsea team really good you've both played in the same side as her what does she bring to a team
just in terms of her skill set in terms of her presence when you're on the pitch what is it that
that Keira Walsh is so good at well I think Ellen kind of summed it up perfectly there and I kind of
even resort back to my Man City days with her I left Man City in 2019 right so that's relatively
quite a long time ago now and she was still so
young but even at that stage you know she wasn't given the credit at that point she would have been
22 and younger so I played with her sort of in her you know development years really but even at that
point I would be saying to people you don't know how good she is until she played you play with her
she's not getting the credit she deserves yet so to see her game come on to what it is now
is honestly, everything Ellen has said,
she always had that, even from a kid.
She was always dictating tempo of play,
telling you when to speed up,
telling you when to slow down.
She would see passes and execute them
that you couldn't even see as a centre-back behind her.
So just her skill set of passing the ball, unbelievable.
And then now what Ellen said,
I maybe necessarily saw the sort of early stages of her as a leader
and seeing her come into that role and become a senior pro now
and how she kind of is dictating play
and really communicating way more on the pitch.
And she always did, but to see her grow into that has been unbelievable.
I do wonder whether the women's game has been slightly later on
in terms of appreciating that style of player,
appreciating what someone like Keira Walsh actually brings to a team
and just how much you can gain from having a player that can dominate tempo.
Exactly. I think you see it.
I think maybe more people appreciate it when she's played for England, maybe. Dwi'n credu y gallai fwy o bobl ei ddod o hyd i'r rhan o'i chwarae ar gyfer Lloegr. Ar y lefel honno, os ydych chi'n cofio'r gwrth-dwylau Ella Toon yn y Ffynol Euro,
lle mae Ella yn amlwg yn gweithio fel gofynwr,
nid oedd un arall wedi gweld y gwrth-dwylau hynny.
Nid oedd un arall wedi gallu gweithio'r gwrth-dwylau i allu droi o hyd i Ella.
Dwi'n credu ei bod hi wedi gweithio'n fwyaf yn Barcelona,
gan fod hi'n cael ei gyd-dwylau gan y chwaraeyr. Ac fe wnaeth hi chwarae rôl gwahanol yno. up in front of Ella and I think she's obviously improved massively at Barcelona being surrounded by the players that she is surrounded by and she played maybe a little bit of a different role
there she was being able to kind of go a little bit higher and actually kind of move more into
like the midfield normally she kind of sits in that sixth role but she was able to kind of be a
bit more freer when I've seen her and that's probably exciting and that's brought her development
on as well and she's the most technically gifted player
I think that I've ever played with.
Just like the ball would stick to her foot,
but then just the way that she can just
fizz a pass in is unbelievable.
And she's not afraid to tell you
when you've got it wrong.
I've been one of those.
Yeah, I think we've both been on the same team.
Because you really, you want to give Kira
a really good crisp pass or the weight of pass
so then she can then dictate the next play.
So everything would go through her.
And yeah, I think it speaks volume for what Sonia Bombastor wants to achieve as well.
She obviously wants to bring Naomi Germer in.
She wants to bring in Kira Walsh, who has won the Champions League,
has that experience, Lucy Bronze.
So you've got that real depth of experience and wealth of knowledge in
those massive games to be like, we're going for it. We're not messing around.
Well, you mentioned it last week, talking about strengthening when you're already in a position
of strength. And even after signing Omer Girma, they don't stand still, they go again. And I think
now when you look at Chelsea, you're seeing a side that is not just evolving in terms of what they're doing individually, but they're taking the league further forward as well.
Exactly. I think they're investing in the women's team. They have been done for years.
And yeah, they're pushing the rest of the teams in the league to be like, go on, do you want to follow us?
Do you want to invest in the women's team? Do you want WSL to be the best league in the world?
And I think people need to jump on that bandwagon.
I think clubs and boards need to kind of look and be like,
do us as a club, do we want to be in this WSL fighting at the top of the table?
Or do we want to be there being beaten every week by, I don't know,
three, four, five, six goals?
No, we want this to be the most competitive league.
And everyone needs to invest in that
and be a part of that.
And you need to use Chelsea as your blueprint
because they are years in front recruitment-wise.
And you can see with the loan system as well.
They've got seven of their players
have gone out on loan to develop and learn.
And I just think that they're just streams of head
of everyone else.
I think it's always kind of credit to,
if you look at players,
let's use Lucy Bronze and Keira Walsh examples, right?
Left the WSL from Manchester City,
have gone and won back-to-back Champions Leagues.
Who did they go back to when they go back to the WSL?
Chelsea.
Because Chelsea have obviously offered everything
that they would want to as a player
and they've gone and they've tasted Champions League success they know what it takes to go and
win it now so that they're they're gonna buy into a club now that they know is doing the right thing
and that's obviously what Chelsea have shown Chelsea have gone in for the best center back
in the world by the way 24 years old Kira Walsh 27 in her prime they're not they're signing people who are hungry
ready to win things
have experience
having done it
and that is the
timeline that Chelsea
are on
yeah it's not speculation
is there
not speculating on
okay we'll sign someone
at a very early age
and hope that this
comes good
but do that as well
obviously
yeah
they literally line
players up that are
going to come through
and then at the same time
have these players
in their prime
and I think it kind of goes back to the interview that we did with her at the beginning
of the season where she said I'm here to win the Champions League I've done it before it's what I'm
going to do again but that sends such a message to your players and then if you go out and buy
players on top of that you're really putting yourself in a position where it just becomes
the thread running through everything we're going to try and win the Champions League and it's not
just try probably will win the Champions League if you have the right mentality exactly and i think you
know she's done her homework sonia bombasta she's watched what chelsea been doing she's spoken to
the right people behind the scenes being like are you investing in this team are you investing in
me as a manager of what i want to achieve what i want to achieve for my players and these are the
people that i want and these are the people that are going to you know get what we deserve or what we want to achieve which is essentially they're going
for the quadruple which as we historically know has only happened once so you know they want to
create history again and i think she's had those conversations clearly to be like i want to be the
best this club needs to be the best and you need to you know join me in what we want to achieve
collectively and they've gone out and done it I suppose the other side of this is is potentially what it
means for the WSL and the competitiveness across the WSL can other teams keep up and and should
other teams be doing more to keep up and it's a question that's been asked a lot around the league
let's get the thoughts now of Liverpool manager Matt Beard. I mean look I think if you progress and you do well in the group stages I think you can win up
to 1.4 million in the Champions League. Obviously they play a lot of games at Stamford Bridge.
If you look at Arsenal they play all their games at the Emirates. I know the odd one gets moved
here and there which allows them to obviously generate income.
I mean, is it good for the game? I don't know.
Obviously, if they've got the money to spend, then they're going to spend it.
And they've signed some fantastic players.
But yeah, I said it when we played them here.
I think they could probably put two XI's out and finish first and second in the division.
I think really only Arsenal and Manchester City can compete with them when it comes down to the spending.
But yeah, no, it's going to be interesting
to see how it develops over the next couple of years.
So interesting quotes from Matt Beard there.
And I always think it's fascinating
to hear the message behind the message, Elson.
There's potentially a little bit in Matt Beard's quotes there
to fans to let them know what's going on,
but also a little bit of a nudge maybe at senior figures at football clubs about,
like you're saying, how to keep up?
Yeah, I think so, potentially.
And I think, you know, he spoke about, you know, stadiums and revenue.
And I think it's, yeah, a nudge to all kind of senior members in different clubs and boards
to be like, we want to grow our
game and we want to create revenue for ourselves in the women's game as well and we've seen what
Arsenal have done obviously now Stamford Bridge had a significant amount of fans there as well
so I think it's like a collective to be like do we want to improve this game how do we do this
how do we do this together to raise the profile of the game the WSL and create
revenue for our clubs as well I suppose with Chelsea now the the key question will be what
does this side need to achieve in order to reach its potential this season given the amount that
they've spent now and the signings that they've made yet I mean they'll be going for all four
there's no doubt about that but even you But even if they fail the Champions League,
I still don't see that as a failure if they don't get it.
I think domestic treble is probably what they're aiming for.
They've done it before multiple times.
They want to do that again.
And of course, they're going for Champions League.
But if they don't get it, I've no doubt that, you know,
I think they'll go on to achieve that the following year.
I think we
have to remember that Germa and Keira Walsh of course we're talking about Champions League and
the aims of bringing in those calibres of player but ultimately they've got five months to then
get into that team not get into the team but go in and win Champions League it's a short space of
time and I know football moves fast and you know teams can can get into it quickly but domestic
treble first and foremost for Chelsea, I think is the priority.
But Champions League with Bonpas d'Or,
people being in that team, having been there, done it.
If they don't get it this year, 100% next year.
Also in five months' time, we've got to build up to the Euros.
In that Chelsea squad, Hannah Hampton, Lucy Bronze,
Millie Bright, Nii Charles, Kira Walsh,
Lauren James, Aggie Beaver-Jones.
It's not a bad core of lionesses that are playing their trade.
We're going to win the Euros!
That's it back!
Sorry, Danny.
Got really outvoted there for five minutes.
I just stayed silent for a solid ten seconds there. First time for a while.
So elsewhere, Chelsea Sar side's new goalkeeper,
20-year-old Femke lifting,
which was shortly followed by the happy news
as Asira Misovic is expecting her baby.
So huge congratulations to her and her partner
on that wonderful news.
Elsewhere, big news.
On the final day of the transfer window,
Chloe Kelly getting a move to Arsenal.
Now, if you've been following along with this story you'll know it's not just a straightforward chloe kelly moves to
arsenal there was a lot of discussion and a lot of chat around this because chloe kelly came out
of a statement a couple of days prior saying that the current trajectory within her career was having
an effect on her mental health.
And she said,
to be dictated whom I can and can't join with only four months left of the football season
is having a huge impact,
not only on my career,
but my mental wellbeing.
The summer is a huge one
and I want to be in a position
to give my best shot to represent my country.
We then saw a lot of discussion
about a potential move to Man United
before Chloe then got a move to to arsenal but even after the move she followed up with another statement
on instagram saying that she was disappointed to find out that people at the club were briefing
journalists against her women should look after each other and build each other up not shoot them
down to protect their employers i mean let's try and unpack this a little bit and i think firstly the number one thing that jumps out at me it's a very brave
thing to do from chloe to come out and make those statements at what is really with the countdown to
the end of the window it's a finite period of time you've got to have your say really yeah and i
firstly i'm extremely proud of her for standing up and using her voice and telling everyone how she feels and what's been happening.
You know, she's obviously very frustrated to have not played the amount of minutes that she would have liked to.
She's a phenomenal talent, isn't she?
And it's, you know, that Man City squad, there's a lot of players who are very good.
And obviously behind the scenes, there must have been things going on where obviously she is asking to move she wants to move um it also
baffles me a bit that potentially you know she could have gone to Man United a rival but then
she's ended up at Arsenal which is another rival which is crazy um first and also for me um this
all affected her mental health which is not okay it. It's not acceptable for a club to have put that on someone,
for it to affect her in that way.
And obviously she's put that on social media
to force a move, essentially, and it has happened.
And I hope that she'll be happy.
I hope that she'll be settled here at Arsenal
to gain minutes for herself as well.
Is Arsenal the right place for Kelly, do you think, Gem?
Yeah, she wouldn't have done it if she
didn't think so I think you know to back to to Ellen's point I think she wanted to go play a top
team right so all of those top teams were always going to be rivals but I think that shows the sort
of um route that Chloe wants to go down she wants to be competing at the top and playing for for the
best clubs in England and that's the move that she got. And I also think that when she's looked at that Arsenal team,
she's backed herself to go and get minutes.
She wouldn't be doing a loan move going into the Euros
if she didn't back herself to go and get playing time.
I also think Arsenal don't have many out-and-out wingers,
and I think she'll fit into that style.
And I think it's a great move for her.
She's been at the club before.
She knows exactly the style of play and what the philosophy philosophy is and she's obviously had a really good feeling and look I think knowing
Chloe Chloe's personality I don't know her personally but knowing what she said and spoken
out she wouldn't be doing the move and unless it was her decision outright and that she backed
herself to go and play but there is there's definitely something that I think a lot of
people will miss in the fact that football regardless of
whether you are an elite level talent or playing or just desperate to get some minutes on the pitch
there is still a personality element involved as well and sometimes you can just be in environments
where a coach maybe doesn't think you're the right fit or maybe doesn't fit for what they want to do
at least subjectively in their mind so for Chloe I imagine she'll be going to Arsenal thinking well one way or another I get a
fresh opportunity to put myself in the frame and put myself in front of a manager who might want to
at least take more of a look at me 100% I think there's a broader picture here I don't think it
comes down to just football and I think I think you're spot on we've all played for managers where you get on a little bit better or you maybe don't necessarily and that's not
anything down to people being of a less it's just a personality clash or differences and that's okay
we're all human we all have different traits that are good and different fits at clubs and managers
and even players teammates you don't get on with everyone
that's that's life and I think it's also important to understand the broader picture of
it's not just about football it's about teammates it's about staff it's about who you connect with
who brings out the best of you who fills you with confidence it's not just about going onto a pitch
and performing 90 minutes every week and that's going to happen every single week so I think she's
looked at it more from a holistic perspective and you know use the pursuit of happiness in her statement and I
kind of like that she wants to get back to enjoying her football and that's what she needed to do
and I genuinely hope she gets there. Is that hard the first time that it that it happens to you that
you realize that maybe the person that has control over the amount of game time that you get just
might not necessarily
rate you in the same way that other coaches have yeah it's really tricky and you could be doing
absolutely everything on the training pitch you could be the best player on the training pitch
um and still not get picked um so yeah it's it's hugely frustrating I think there's been clearly
kind of a breakdown in communication as well behind the scenes um and it's it's been
obviously a really difficult period for Chloe um and I think you know for me and I agree with what
Jen's saying as well you want a really happy Chloe Kelly you want her to go and find happiness that's
where you see the best Chloe Kelly and hopefully she'll find this in a new environment new teammates
with Arsenal and selfishly as an England fan you want her to be playing minutes to be in the best possible condition,
come the Euros, to give herself the best possible chance of being in Serena Wiegmann's squad.
So hopefully, it's a really good low moon for her.
Let's just wrap up the rest of the window then.
Caroline from North Carolina Courage and Rebecca Knack from Rosengard
join Man City, no doubt to help
in the absence of Alex Greenwood there.
Everton look to have had a good window as well, Erlan?
Yeah, no, I think they've done
pretty good business, to be fair.
And I think you've seen that in the performances.
Obviously, they picked up a number of points
early in the season.
It was really tricky for them.
So I think they've had a really good window
and I think that'll put them in a good position
probably mid-table but by the end of the season
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with Ben Haynes, Ellen White and Jen Been beatty let's move on to the wsl
action over the weekend chelsea once again finding a way to win thanks to a late own goal from
aston villa then there was a seven goal filler at the joy stadium which was almost as chaotic as the
transfer window jen another controversial penalty decision and i this one almost doesn't veer into controversial.
It looks like maybe it was just flat a bad decision.
I'm glad you said it, Ben.
Yeah, no, I back completely what you're saying.
First and foremost, it wasn't in the box, let's be honest.
So we can't even talk about it as a penalty shout.
For me, even if that's outside the box, I don't even think it was a foul.
I thought it was, Steph Cattley barely touched the girl's back um so yeah really poor one I'm
really glad not to sound biased but I'm glad that that didn't dictate the game you know if that was
another one where looking at the Stamford Bridge game the Kim Little penalty that kind of lost it
lost in the game right they lost three points from it whereas Arsenal still came away with three points so it was it was great in that sense but if that had led to a draw based
on those decisions it'd be a whole other talking point but yeah it was just not a great decision
Ben whatsoever and it's one of those ones that needs to get better and needs to be reviewed and
it can't happen I understand it's hard to make a decision in those moments and things happen really fast and do we bring VAR into the equation?
I'm not sure, but I'm just glad that the points weren't changed off the basis of that decision, but it was a bad one.
And a lot of why the points weren't shared was kind of thanks to City's problems of their own making once again.
They continue to play with this style out from the back and they've been caught out again and I hate asking this question because I feel like we push
so often for clubs to have philosophies and ways of playing and we find it exciting when they do
this is the downside of that right yeah I think when you're playing the style that Man City have
and the philosophy they have, the actions and the pass
and the technical ability,
it has to be spot on every time.
And it can be counteracted
and we saw that against Manchester United.
So it did,
it didn't surprise me
that they wanted to play the same way
because it's very structured
in the way that obviously
they want to play out.
But again,
it came to kind of poor actions,
but then very good pressing from from Arsenal um great setup I am I actually thought
you know starting Black Stinius up top was it was great but she starts that press she's fast
she's aggressive and then having kind of Rousseau Mead on the other side and obviously Caldente
being quite high as well so I think um what René Slagers did in the start in 11 was impressive.
But then it wasn't just the back line that was the issue for Man City.
They lost it quite a lot in midfield.
We saw Jess Park losing the ball, which then led to Marnham's goal as well.
So, yeah, I think it's just poor actions.
And I think maybe just lack of confidence as well at times
when you're being aggressively pressed at times.
And they'll need to try and find a way to get past that as they face Arsenal for the second time in a week
and that's in the League Cup semi-final on Thursday Chelsea v West Ham is the other semi-final there
and that's on Wednesday night so some great midweek games to look forward to and you can catch both of
those games on BBC iPlayer elsewhere Manwhere, Man United extended their WSL winning
run to five games with a 1-0 win over Tottenham Hotspur at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. They stay
in second place, three points ahead of Arsenal and five ahead of Man City. Elizabeth Turland,
with a really well-taken goal and a really well-worked goal as well.
Yeah, it was a really nice goal. Lovely cross by Riviere.
And yeah, first time finish from Turlin.
Great timing.
It's just, can she do that consistently, I'd say, in the WSL?
Because she gets in nice positions. Player of the match performance from Celine Bizet in there as well.
It's just worth mentioning that their last three WSL fixtures
are at home to Chelsea, at home to Man City and away to Arsenal.
So they'll want to maintain this form now as runs don't really come much tougher than that.
Some dates for the diary.
City against Chelsea on the 23rd of March,
then United against Chelsea on the 27th of April,
United against City on the 4th of May
and Arsenal v Man United on the 11th of May.
All of those games will have a huge bearing
on which way things swing in
the race for the Champions League places. Other scores, Crystal Palace got a point away to Brighton,
Everton beat Leicester City 4-1 and Liverpool beat West Ham at home. Just to finish, another bit of
news we got this week is that England and Bayern Munich midfielder Georgia Stanway tore her lateral
ligament in her right knee during a training session so she's had surgery and she's going to be out for several months now ellen is this did
you say this is the injury that you did no i did um the inside so similar to what alex did but i
did my acl at the same time so it's a tough one it's on the outside of her knee and obviously
having surgery is not ideal um you know obviously Biomunic in the Champions League,
but then also leading into the Euros.
So hopefully her rehab goes well and she's fit and available.
Okay, so we've got LCL, MCL and ACL.
So do you know the terminology of all those three?
Can you run us through it?
Medial collateral ligament is your inside of your knee.
Lateral collateral ligament is on the outside of your knee.
ACL is kind of inside your knee lateral collateral ligament is on the outside of your knee acl is kind of inside
your knee and is is there differences between those in terms of time frames to recover is
everyone different i don't put a specific but i'd say it is a good few months kind of ellen
reporting for duty i would say maybe like a good i don't want to say because i don't want people to
be like oh she has to be ready i'd say like mcl lcl with surgery maybe three three to six months maybe
and then acl is the big one it all depends on rehab how quick you are at healing the grade of
it how the surgery went um so hopefully they will be back there's also a pcl there is at the back of
the knee which i've done i genuinely thought you were making that up that's a hard one to do as
well posterior is that harder to do and it takes longer to heal apparently.
Yeah, that's horrible.
And you do that.
I've done MCL and PCL at the same time,
just before the FA Cup final actually, 2019.
But I got back.
It was okay.
But yeah, PCL is back in the knee, posterior.
But Ellen, you summed it up.
But yeah, they're all different timelines
depending on grade.
I guess the question off the back of that then,
is there a natural replacement for Georgia
in terms of the way that Serena Wigma
will approach the Nations League games
that are coming up against Portugal and Spain?
There's no one that jumps out to me
that kind of plays the game the way Georgia does.
I've been crying out for Grace Clinton to play,
but she hasn't actually played a lot of minutes
for Manchester United.
Jess Park has been doing well.
Ella Toon's been on form, but it's that eight role that is it's going to be tricky to fill she has such physicality to her play as well she creates a lot but also she's just not
afraid to go in and do the kind of ugly side of the game as well um so it's fine as someone that
can potentially do that i'm not certain who that could be. I wish Georgia all the best on her recovery there.
Before we go, it's the FA Cup fifth round this weekend.
The BBC's opted to show Rugby Borough the lowest ranked side left in the competition
against Liverpool.
That's on Sunday night, Feb at 12.30.
That's all from us.
Thanks so much to Jelen.
Jelen.
Jelen.
Oh my God, I've given you a nickname.
Incredible.
Thanks to Jen and to Ellen. There might be another reason we're all together and on location today but you'll have to wait for a very special episode
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