Football Daily - World Cup: 10 man England beat Mexico in a classic – 5 Live Reaction

Episode Date: July 6, 2026

Relive the atmosphere and instant reaction from 5Live at full time as England clinch a quarter final place in the World Cup, thanks to a heroic display from Thomas Tuchel's men. Mark Chapman is joined by Paul Robinson, Matthew Upson, Stephen Warnock and John Murray to discuss a night they'll never forget. Hear from Tuchel, Jordan Pickford, Jude Bellingham and a very hoarse Harry Kane in the Azteca Stadium. 15:03 INTERVIEW: Harry Kane 18:39 Concerns over a post-match injury to Jordan Henderson 23:10 How will England set up against Norway in the quarter final? 27:08 INTERVIEW: Thomas Tuchel 30:58 INTERVIEW: Jude Bellingham 33:36 INTERVIEW: Jordan Pickford

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Bigfoot's... is the last touch of the match and England win it England win in the Azteca 40 years on from the hand of God Thomas Tuchel said that this stadium it was time for England

to make peace with it well they've had a piece of the action here tonight and Mexico are beaten in their stronghold in a competitive match for the first time since 2013, but England substitutes the coaches come racing on. And what scenes of celebration among the England players? England have won it.

3-2. What a colossus performance that was from an England side. Who changed formation, they dug in. They've sat so deep for the last 20 minutes of the game. And then when that 11 minutes went up, he made the change to a back five in the 71st minute, and you thought at that point, this is going to be a long time to hold on, almost impossible the way that the Mexicans were playing. And they didn't just hold on for that 20 minutes.

They held on for 31 minutes with the added time. There's a lot of heroes out on that pitch tonight. It was a big, big shift put in. Dan Byrne, when he came onto the pitch, was absolutely outstanding. Conza Gaye, John Stones, the back five that were playing. They held on and held on so well. Jude Bellingham dropping in. Every single player on that pitch turned into a defender

and to sit so deep and do that for so long in a game completely opposite to how England would want to play, how England normally play, but they've dug in and they've somehow held on. What an incredible performance and a brilliant result for England. Paul Robinson, thank you very much. Can I go to bed now?

What day is it? What time is it? It's absolutely unbelievable. I don't think I've been through the mill watching a football game like that. I have to say, I'm absolutely shaking after that. That was some rearguard action. Four o'clock in the morning at home. Well, everyone back home will have gone through the ringer as well. But England can celebrate a place in the quarterfinals.

Mexico are beaten in the Azteca and England are going to play Norway in Miami on Saturday night. Final score here. Mexico to England I'll let you two have a breather for two or three minutes and not because of the altitude either let's bring in Matt Upson and Stephen Warner that last 20 minute

what a rearguard action that was I think every defensive substitute that was brought on Matt had at some stage to produce some last ditch tackle or block stones at the very end, nearly turning into his own goal. There was a Jed

Spence tackle that went out for a corner which he had to make. There was Dan Burn blocking Raul Jimenez's overhead kick in the D of the penalty area. They all had to put their bodies on the line at some point. They really did and they did it

brilliantly. I thought for the team I mean they just looked like they were really enjoying the challenge. I will say that. I thought Pickford looked like he was in his element coming out, punching, dealing with crosses. Dan Byrne was enjoying himself. All the pressures there, but those moments, you know, you must be such a buzz

to be on that field. No, you're hanging on, defending that lead. What England have given. Drew Bellingham was just sensational this evening. I thought it was absolutely brilliant physically with his goals, with his leadership, driving us up the pitch. But the substitutions, and Thomas Tuchel to go, right, Burn on back three

Let's concede that The crosses are going to come in We're just going to have to defend it And I'm going to ask a question of the players Are they up for it? Can they cope with it? And the big answer was yes What a victory that is in that stadium

That just doesn't happen Mexico don't get beat there You know it's such a brilliant win for England Bellingham's legs as well Stephen In the last 20 minutes Incredible, incredible energy Big games call for for big personalities,

big players and there's not many bigger than him there's been a lot of questions asked about him this year who would start in that number 10 position

and he showed why he is the player who starts in that position I think he he just had a sense of giving me the ball I'll protect it I'll win it

I'll keep hold of it I think there was probably a few people at the end where there could have been a little bit more composure but it's so difficult in them circumstances

that atmosphere the wave after wave of attack but when he got it there was that sense of that I think he just gassed himself out with sort of 10 minutes or so to go and that was such a shame because he just looked absolutely

brilliant and him in full flow there's not many better sights and john they've the england players have actually left the pitch gone over the advertising hoardings and they've got within maybe 10 yards of the england fans and john has also left chappers i think he's going down to join them he's on his way down the steps now but yeah as you can see on your screens it's quite an incredible scene we've seen the England players do that after a game, standing a line. But today they're all jumped over the hoardings. They're all two or three yards away from those England supporters away to our right-hand side, who as well as the team were immense today, very, very much outnumbered.

But that was such a unified team performance. We should also have a word for Pickford here, really, partly for his saves in the first half, but actually for the two or three occasions as well in that last 20 minutes when he commanded his area. He was excellent tonight, chap, as he really was. I don't think to this point he's had the best of tournaments. There's goals that have gone in, not errors, but you could question certain things in his positioning.

But tonight he was bold and brave. Yes, his saves kept England in the game in the first half. But for me, what was more impressive was the bravery that he had, the leadership that he showed, coming off his line, dominating his box. And that takes a lot of pressure off those defenders at times. And he was excellent tonight, Jordan Pickford. Alan Shearer has said on TV this morning

those players have represented their country in magnificent form tonight every single player had the right attitude everything that could have gone against them everything that was thrown at them energy altitude they've got past all of that and they deserved it it's an incredible performance from start to finish when they were under the cosh the manager made the right substitutions the subs came on and they did their job

what an incredible night And I suppose in hindsight, Matt, he did make the right substitutions. You wondered whether by making the substitutions, whether the ball would just keep coming back at them. And it did. I mean, the last, I don't know, Mexico had 84% possession over the last 15 minutes or so of that game. But they still, they still had,

it's not like Mexico cut them apart. No, no, and that's the point. because if you're going to do that and you're going to put the three and you're going to put burning and you're going to say, okay, we're going to defend the box but where we were excellent is Gordon

on the far side and Spence, the way they closed and just blocked the crossing channels. Once they'd figured out, the in swinging ball wanted to come in, how many times did it go out to the right-hand side and you can tell they're looking for that angle that moment to cross when it wasn't there

or it was getting blocked or they weren't getting easy crosses into the box, which then made the life of stones and Gerhi and Bern. It gave them the upper hand, really, to go and attack the ball, win the crosses when they come in, because the pressure was so good on the ball, certainly on the right-hand side.

It was top, and that kind of work goes a little bit unnoticed. We were quick to mention the blocks, weren't we, and the moments of last-ditch tackles, but those stopping the cross, that's so important at that stage. And I thought that we set up really well to do that. Alan mentioned that everything that could have gone against them did go against them. But then having looked at what Darren Kanner said on television and also actually Stephen, what Joe Hart said, he said, I think the referee came to the right decision on everything,

both the penalties and the red card. I felt every single one as soon as I saw the replays, my heart was in my mouth. It's difficult to disagree with that. Quanta was unlucky with the waist foot bounced off the board. I suppose, but the rules are the rules? Yeah, I think all decisions were right. I think that's the ultimate thing. When you look at the decisions and VAR do get involved,

get involved for the right reasons, and they did that. And I actually thought the referee did okay in spells. I think he could have been a little bit. I loved his authority. There was an authority of like where he stood and he got in the faces of players and he told them to get away, told them to calm down. I thought he had an authority in the field. I think there was a couple of bookings.

especially the Declan Rice one early on, I thought it was poor, but on a whole, I thought he got everything right, so you can't really complain too much. And, listen, England went up against a lot tonight. A lot of talk about the conditions and what they've done. It was a game where I think there was an element when you make them substitutions, your backs against the wall, you know that history can be made,

and there's an element of a togetherness. But I think there's a real collective between the squad at the moment. Matt talks there about defenders, like, stopping crosses, that was imperative tonight. It just allowed the centrebacks to get set, to get organised, to latch onto players. The shift that they put in tonight is quite brilliant and they deserve everything they got tonight

because that was a massive shift. Again, it's another different type of performance at this World Cup, Matt, isn't it? We talked earlier about Harry Kane's different types of performance, but this is another one again. And it is the kind of performance that then cements that squad and lays the platform for the rest of the tournament?

Yeah, it really does, but also it shows that while there's bumps in the road and there has been, the adaptability that we've had to show throughout the whole tournament can then become really useful when you have a fixture. This is such a one-off fixture. Like Stephen just said, there's so many things that are up against you, little tiny, quirky thing. And these are one-off games. And the team have adapted to this situation.

I couldn't believe how little of the ball. I know before Kwanza got sent off, it just surprised me that England didn't have more possession at all. But that's what presented itself. So they had to adapt, they had to adjust. Perhaps that was the game plan to begin with. But I'm pretty sure we would like the little bit more control of the game. It wasn't to be.

And everyone's adapted brilliant. I think they've got squad members like Dan Byrne that will come in and just give everything and do it right. It's there all the time, ready to go. It's a powerful thing to have, certainly when you get into these situations. So it's just a brilliant result.

To win there is huge. Because you don't know, Stephen, when you might need that kind of performance again. Not hopefully a performance where you're down to 10, but a performance where the opposition, are going to have more of the ball. That, you know, it might be Norway in the next game who had a lot more of the ball than Brazil.

In the first last 16 match today, it might come in a semi-final, potentially against Argentina. Might come in a final, potentially against France or Spain. Yeah, the big thing about football is, is that on paper it's easy. Put it on paper and you go,

England squad's better than Mexico. They should dominate the ball, man for man, better team, better players. That's not football. That's not the way football plays itself out. And that's the difficult part of it. And this is a World Cup and it's the players leaving everything on the line. You're going up against a home nation in Mexico who are raising their game 10, 15%. And you have to, as Matt says there, which is the perfect word, you have to adapt.

And you have to be able to play a different style of football. And I think that's what Thomas Tuchel brings to this group of players. Is there's an understanding of when to go after the game, when to back off a game. game, when to go. I think they've managed it extremely well so far throughout this tournament. And I think one of the big things is that tactical changes in every single game have worked. And that's a huge thing to have within a changing room that when you look across and that guy tells you something, you fully buy into it because you think, well, do you know what? It keeps on working. He's seeing something and he's got something. He's got that stardust about him.

Yeah, another huge plus for Thomas Tuchel tonight. You'd agree, Matt? Absolutely. I completely agree. I think the buy-in is massive when you see those changes happen all the time. And it's not just about

who the right person is. It's the timing of it. It's then what system he goes to. It's what position they come up. I mean, to take Anderson off, go for the back three. You're kind of thinking, that's quite a big call at that moment.

Because like I say, you are inviting the pressure. And he's bold enough to go, yeah, I am. And do you know what? We might cost us, we might not cope with it, but I trust in the team. And I trust the people that I'm going to put on the field that we're going to stop the crosses. We're going to defend the box well enough. And it's a massive call. But he's got the ability to make that call and he's brave enough to do it.

I think sometimes as well we're not privy to what's going on and they'll see the stats of what's going on. Elliot Anderson's stats might have dropped. He might have just been dropping off and fatiguing. And he thinks, I can't afford for that to happen. As important as he is, they'll have been looking at everything tonight and saying, That 1% that we need to get over the line, whatever it is. And listen, he took Harry Kane off. How often does he take Harry Kane off?

And Harry will have accepted that because I think he realizes that this manager is about the greater of the team rather than about the individual. And I think the goal that won us the game, Chapas, the Gordon penalty was just magnificent from Anthony Gordon. And that right there is the reason. We spoke about him before the game. He gets on the end of those things.

He gets there. And it's just a brilliant piece of anticipation from him. Anthony Gordon won the penalty. Harry Kane converted it. The England captain is with Kelly Summers. Well, Harry, huge congratulations. What a contest. What a win.

But I just personally wanted to ask you what's happened over there by the England goal because there looks to be some concern. Yeah, Jordan. My place is gone. Henlow just fell over there. I think it's okay. Just something to do with his arm.

Okay, well, as for the performance, I think it says it all the fact. that your voice has gone. That was some contest to watch. What on earth was it like to play in? Yeah, it was a crazy game. We had to fight. We had to fight something.

Yeah, I've just been singing there. I can't really talk. All the occasion, the team, everything against us, we found a way. I was going to say, is that what pleases you the most of resilience today? Because even your penalty, a word on that as well, not the one you scored, the one you conceded. What did you make of that? Yeah, I thought I got to the ball first. It was one of those days.

The refs gave a lot against us. And in the end it didn't matter. So, yeah, I'm happy. I'm going to try one more question if your voice holds out. What can this do for England going forward? You've got a quarter final in Miami against Norway to look forward to. What can the England fans look forward to now? Well, just look at them here.

Incredible. Unbelievable support. Speechless. I can't even talk, so. Go and rest that voice, rest up. Thanks, Harry. I mean, that might be the highlight of the whole night. That poor, what, his voice there.

Goodness, goodness me. Speechless. It would be very good in a band, would he? It would last a night on performing? I mentioned the sort of possession in the last 15 minutes. Overall, Paul, on the possession. England had just over 33%. That's their lowest since they started doing the records in 1966

in a World Cup match. And they made 48 clearances tonight, which is the most since the Belgium game in 1990 when they made 54. That's how much of a rearguard action it was. It was, it was exactly that. I mean, we're sat just off centre here, up high up in the stand,

and we were just fixed on the left-hand half, which was in front of us. And actually, John said to me before the game, that was the end where the hand of God was, the Diego Maradonna goal. And that's the end that England defended so resiliently for those 31 minutes that they had to last out with that back five. I haven't actually got the stats for the other countries. Maybe France might have one. But you've now got Cain and Bellingham leading the way with the goals. Kane is on six.

Obviously Harlan, Harlan, Messy and Mbapé are on seven. But Bellingham is up to four now, Stephen. Yeah, and that's important as well. You can't just rely on Harry Kane. You've got to make sure that you're chipping him with goals from elsewhere. And we spoke about, Jude Bellingham earlier on, how important he is to this team and what he provides. I think there's so much more than just the goals,

though there's a leadership within his performances now. I think there's an understanding that. I think he's had to earn the trust of Thomas Tuchel. And now he feels like he's got that. We're starting to see big, big performances from him. So, yeah, those two moments in the first. where you take that gamble, you run beyond Harry Kane. That's what we know he's capable of and that energy he brings from the field.

But also as well, the athleticism, the power. I mean, it's very, very difficult to play against him. I'm just going to go back to Paul Robinson in the Azteca. We sort of heard in that Harry Kane interview that there had been a bit of kerfuffle when the England players were celebrating with the fans. There are reports that, and Harry Kay mentioned that it was Jordan Henderson who fell and has hurt himself in some way. We're not quite sure what at the moment.

Paul Robinson? Speculating that he fell on his arm, I think. I mean, it was a big crowd of England players over there and they were surrounded by a lot of the press and a lot of the media, the photographers. So from our high-elevated position, you couldn't really see it because whoever it was that we didn't know at the time

was clearly surrounded very quickly by all his England teammates, but were led to believe it's Jordan Henderson and he's fallen on his arm. Okay, so that's... will be a story as well that will develop over the course of the morning as well you would have thought. I suppose if there is one question mark going into Norway in Miami, Stephen, it is right back now. I know Spence came on and he had a niggled pre-match. Not quite sure where we're at with Rees James, but now you've got Kwanza who will be suspended. So again,

it will require a different starting right back. Yeah, I think when you look at Esri Konza's contribution as a right back and John Stone's coming into the harder defence, I think, is that something he'll look at and think, well, I know that Esri Konzer can play that position comfortably. We looked at the way that England played tonight and Jarrell Kwanza dropping into that back three. Well, Conza can do that as well.

So he's got plenty of options in that back line. He's got a lot of versatility. Jed Spence looked fit when he came on, so I'm not so sure how much of an injury he had. But that right back birth will be the one that's been spoke about for a while. And hopefully he's got a clean bill of health ahead of the game. And Reese James is back as well. But we'll obviously know Jarrell Conza will be missing.

Surely we can get somebody to make a phone call to FIFA, chappers. That'll all get ironed out. Well, yes. I don't know who that would be at the moment. I don't know who, no. Is that meant to go on Andy Burnham's plate? Yeah, I don't know. It's all up in the air.

I think we can hear from John Murray on the Jordan Henderson situation. John? Hi, Mark, I had to make my way down from our commentary position, which is a circuitous route, and there are many, many corridors in the bowels of the Aztec Stadium.

And just as I was nearing the point where you turn the corner to come to the interview area, there were probably 10 or 15 stewards who asked me to stop, stop there in the corridor and I saw the stretcher coming past with various England medical officials around it so I could see it was an England player on the stretcher

but it was whisked past me so quickly that since I've got to this area I've been told that it is Jordan Henderson who is there so he has been taken away on a stretcher presumably to an ambulance and I could see that he was having oxygen administered to him so I don't know what happened in that incident and I gather that

that's unclear to you as well but I have seen it does appear, it's Jordan Henderson who was stretch it away and the reports are that it was some kind of he suffered some kind of arm or hand injury but that hasn't been confirmed to you yet. No no no

not yet. We won't hear more about that I wouldn't have thought until Thomas Tuchel comes and speaks to us do you think John as you're waiting for the interviews having done all of these England games with Thomas Tuchel Do you think that's his best game, tactically, decision-wise, substitutions-wise? Well, because they won it, then yes. But, I mean, you know, they were clinging on by their fingertips.

And, you know, it was a rear-guard action, but it probably had to be a rear-guard action. So of his results, I think in terms of the calibre of opposition, you know, Mexico are ranked 10th in the world. And, you know, we've talked all week about what it is they came to face here. And my goodness, they had to face it as well. You know, the hostility, the noise from the crowd. You know, I don't think I'll hear a better atmosphere than that at this World Cup.

You know, you've got to put up with that, balls into the penalty area. So, you know, the answer to that has to be yes to get through to a quarterfinal of the World Cup. Are there any other questions that you would have about how England set up for Norway based on when it was 11 against 11? Matt, and I'm going back to, it's interesting, isn't it? Because we've had some games where we've questioned the left side. And I feel like tonight we may be questioning the right side, but I don't know how much weight you put on that at the moment when it depends maybe on players' fitnesses or conditions or the like.

And obviously I'm talking about Saka, really. Yeah, I mean, how we go about that, I think it's going to be interesting to see. Obviously, Norway have shown that they can dominate Brazil comfortably with the ball. So, you know, how we played tonight, are we going to expect to be able to match that or even go surpass that?

I'm not too sure we are going to do that, to be honest. I think we've had quite a lot of success playing the way that we have. I mean, just one point about tonight, Chappas, I just want to say, I thought both teams played the game. I never saw one player laying on the floor when they shouldn't have been.

It was just such a competitive, whole-hearted, proper game of football. diving about, nobody trying to win anything, it was proper. Really just want to say that, I really enjoyed the way both teams went about it. But how England go about Norway, again, Thomas 2Court, it'll be different. I'm pretty sure it will, the players will have to adapt to something a little bit different. And that's been the nature of this whole World Cup for England for me. Chapas, it's interesting when you look at Norway, because a lot of their possession is in and around the back.

If you watch Sandeberg, half of his past, in a game, I'd actually say probably three quarters of them, are negative and backwards. And they keep the ball rotating around the back, and then it's about how England then go and press and when they press, or do they wait and wait for that ball to go into midfield and then try and counterattack like Brazil did today. But I think England have got far more than Brazil.

I think they're a better team than Brazil. I think they've got more attributes in wide areas. I don't understand why you wouldn't go after Norway again. We look on paper, and this is the sort of the talking point, on paper, England have the better team. The hard thing is, is just conditions. Miami will be sweltering. It will be hot.

It will be very difficult to play at a high tempo. So I think to Matt's point there, the way things are working at the moment is because they can serve an energy and that's one of the most vital things that you've got to do in a game. I suppose what you would say, though, there is Paul Robertson it's going to be the same for both of them.

It's not like as if you were playing Brazil where they would have an advantage? No, exactly. And I think Norway have played in hotter conditions than England have done. And I think England have been lucky with the condition, certainly here, the last two games, pour in rain, and then closed the arena.

I think Miami's going to bring a different challenge for England. But I think the biggest thing you can take from today, I think it's the togetherness and what a win does like that for the feeling in camp. Because going so late into a tournament, we know it's such a long tournament, but the camaraderie and the togetherness that was shown on that pitch today.

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live after an extraordinary night, Thomas. First of all, I know it'll probably be at the front of your mind. As I arrived down here, I saw Jordan Henderson being stretched away. So what can you tell us about him? Not a lot, it's just stretched away into hospital and injured his wrist, and it seems like quite serious. Really? Okay. So that's about such.

in the celebrations or something i don't i don't know exactly how it happened but it seems like a serious injury so that's clearly a real black edge on the evening uh yeah yeah it is because i mean no one deserves that but for sure not jordan and uh yeah it's just doesn't fit to the evening the evening will go down as one of england's greatest world cup night Deservidly so, I have to say. What a drama. What a drama from the first minute. What a crazy game.

What a frame of a game. What an emotional roller coaster. What a national anthem in the beginning from the Mexican people. I mean, honestly, I'm so proud that I was a part of it. And then see my team dig in, see my team with pure will, just refusing to give it. just refusing to lose this match no matter what it just makes you just proud it was a fight for a long long long time with ten men but there's a lot to love about this

team you did say you felt there was something big coming which I remember you're saying in the autumn before Belgrade yes I thought performance wise I still think there's a disconnect from from what I saw yesterday in training because it was on a highest, highest level. I see this just in glimpses in the game. But this was a one-off though, wasn't it? A one-off, what? In terms of the occasion? Yeah, I get it. I mean, I'm just on a sideline and I don't feel pressure, but I think we can play so much better, still so much better.

Because I see, I still feel there's a disconnect from football level, from decision-making, from ball speed, from courage on the ball. from eliminating opponents with our passes, from going through gaps. There's still a disconnect. We still can do better. But in terms of what is lovable about the team as a fan and the heart, and they bring into the centre belief is one of a kind. When you said to the FA, yes, I will be the England manager, you must have had your eye on this kind of night.

Yeah, it's too good to be true, honestly. I mean, but yeah, when we saw the draw, it was like, wow, this, if we win the group, of course you have an eye there. And you think, like, possibly a huge one in the round of 16. Because it feels like quarter semifinal now. I cannot believe we're only in the quarter final now. Next, next one. It straight away felt huge.

And then we went there. And since we are here in Mexico, actually, like today, again, on the bus, It's just feel you're part of something very, very big and very, very special. Yeah, that's all worth it. I mean, we all gave our very best as a staff and as the players. And it's just a big, big, big reward. See you in Miami. Thank you.

Thanks, Thomas. That game against Norway, 10 o'clock in Miami on Saturday evening, you will hear it with us here on Five Live. We can hear from Balligan. Well, Jude, huge congratulations. What an effort from every single player on the team? What are your thoughts on what you and your teammates have just done out there? Hard to gather it all together, really.

With 10 men defending how we defended our box, clinical like we were in their box. Big pressure moments that maybe in years gone by, especially me watching as a fan as a little kid, probably England would have crumb. board and this team, they stuck together until the last second, you know, the players who came on, the players who started running themselves into the ground, putting the body between everything. That's what this team's about.

What was it like being in that atmosphere? And also then when you were seeing some of those refereeing decisions, the adversity that England were having to come up against? Yeah, the atmosphere was by far the best I played against an international football. I think this country, as a footballing country, is just magnificent. and the reception we had coming off the plane, although it was hostile, it was just a beautiful thing to see

in terms of how passionate one country can be about their team. In terms of the refereeing decisions, this is what it is. You know, in the World Cup, they're human as well as, as easy as it is to say now. They're the human. We made a lot more than they did. So, yeah, no worries we got through.

Your two goals were inside 98 seconds, which were undoubtedly important, but was that clearance at the end of the first half as well, arguably just as important. It could have been. Obviously at 2-1 the game was still there, especially when they scored. It felt like the stadium almost collapsed, so it was

probably an important clearance, just as important as the goals. But, you know, this win is far bigger than me. It's the players who came on, like I said. It's the supporters who have come to Mexico and probably had a difficult journey, paid hard-earned money. This is a team, a

whole country's performance. What can this confidence and belief do for England going into what looks like an exciting quarter-final against Norway? It's still one game at a time, at the end of the day. It's still just around a 16 win. The quarter-final now coming up against Norway, they pose a completely different threat. Some that we know really well, obviously, some world-class players in there.

So we'll have to be ready, but my God, if you can't enjoy a night like this, just for one night then, I don't know what it's worth. Just one quick words on your friend, Jordan Henderson. We saw him in what looked like quite a lot of distress at the end. How is he? He's in a bit of bother, but our medical team have got everything. under control, probably not best to give too much detail. I mean, I don't really know too much going on.

But, yeah, everyone was there to support him, and even that was a beautiful thing to see. Thanks, Jude. Please, you've got a voice because Harry does it. Yeah, I know, I've heard. Jude Bellingham with Kelly Summers. We can hear now from Jordan Pickford. That was quite a night, Jordan.

I was unreal. You'll never get moments like that again in football. Come to the Aztecah. It's once in the lifetime. It's a bucket list. It's a bucket list memory. And we knew the ability we have and the capabilities. We knew everyone's talking about.

altitude, et cetera, et cetera. But it was us against them, and we rolled our sleeves up the night and we got the victory. It wasn't pretty, but it was bloody tough. We rolled our sleeves up and go over the line. I mean, that was the classic rearguard action, wasn't it, from the point

Jarrell Kwanza was sent off? Yeah, you've just got to roll his sleeves up digging. You know, the lads, the input the lads put in defensively, getting out the ball, stopping crosses, blocking shots, everything. It was just in all-round good seed to give in his performance. That's But that's what we are.

That's what we are. We're England and that's what we do. And as goalkeeper, you know, you with the experience that you've got, you know, you imposed your authority on that, didn't you? How many times you came out to out of your six yard box, punch, catch, whatever? Yeah, I was just in the moment. We all know when the pressure, when we're coming to pressure situations and not our faces, I've got that character where I step up

and I'm in that mindset where I feel unbeatable and I prove me. tonight that's what I've got and that's why I keep improving. That's why I put the hard work and on the training ground away from the training ground and I set the standard for myself and moments like that, you know, you've got to enjoy. You've got to enjoy it tonight. And they say it's particularly difficult for goalkeepers at altitude because of the way that the ball flies, was it? It was easier. It was brilliant. I loved it.

No, it was, yeah, we did one training session yesterday and I felt good, you know, as soon as that, felt the ball in my hands and tonight in the warm up and the distance I was kicking it I knew I was in that moment straight away and to get the early save

against Jimenez and to get one How good was that one the Jimenez diving header? There was two good ones but yeah it's you know you talk about being in the right position as a goalkeeper having that

tactical shape in the goalkeeping performance and making that save it was a good save but I make it good because I'm in the right position to make that save and it was very comfortable for me.

One of our Mexican colleagues at halftime said, there's Jordan Pickford, he's like Gordon Banks. I'll take that, yeah, that's a standard I set. What a legend of a goalkeeper in the game and to come here at the Azteca and put a performance on like that, I'm proud. And I've got my family here in the stands and my son, you know, I was unsure whether to bring him.

And I'm glad I did because that's a moment for him to remember in his lifetime. And he wants to be a keeper, and that's a standard he wants to be at. And you've equaled Peter Shelton's number of World Cup appearances as well tonight. So that's a lovely one. Yeah, it's great. Keep hitting numbers and keep doing stuff. And to credit myself of the hard work I put in. And you know what my goal is.

I'm a team player and I always have been. And I don't care if I let two in long as we win tonight. And that's me. I always want to keep clean sheets, but long as we win. And we've got another challenge now. We've got the next chapter. We've got Norway on Saturday. We keep pushing and we'll fight.

We'll see you in Miami, baby. Yep, it's Miami. Thanks, Jordan. Thanks for listening. More reactions, England's winner, on the next Football Daily, which will drop later. A 2023 Ballandor, France footballer is Leonéon.

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