Football Daily - You're Better Than That: TCV vs FPL

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

The Commentator's View faces FPL Podcast from BBC Sport in 5 Live's annual football quiz. Will John Murray and Ian Dennis beat Chris Sutton and Statman Dave? Will Ali Bruce-Ball stay impartial as quizmaster? And will they all stay friends?Five rounds: 04:10 Clash of the Commentators 20:25 Articulate 27:35 Guesstimation 38:40 Sutton Death 48:25 Book round

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Hello and welcome along to Five Lives annual Christmas sporting quiz. I'm Alastair Bruce Ball. This is otherwise known as You're Better Than That. And this year we've set it up as an absolutely mouth-watering clash of the podcast between two of my favorites, I have to say. It's the commentator's view versus the FPL podcast from BBC Sports. So those who listen regularly will know this brings together four of the finest football minds in the business. for people who's sporting knowledge, I respect above all others. So representing, and I'm saying that in all seriousness,

representing TCV, it is the BBC's football correspondent, John Murray, and the BBC's senior football reporter Ian Dennis. I mean, just the titles there, that tells you something. And representing the FPL pod, we have the BBC's Aggravator-in-Chief and lovable Rogue Chris Sutton and the BBC's Statman extraordinaire, Stapman Dave. So welcome to the Twitter. 25, you're better than that.

Chris, I'll start with you because I think you're an ever-present in terms of this quiz. How are you feeling about this match-up? Well, how am I feeling about it? I think we're second favourites. That's my view. Just a quick question for you, Bruce. Which pod do you prefer?

Do I prefer? You know I won't answer that, Chris. I love them both equally. I love you all equally. Listen, today, today, no fear or favour. Totally impartial. Any silliness, Chris, I've given any yellow cards in this quiz before, you know, points off a...

Have you got a yellow card? No, I haven't actually. I haven't actually. I think you're being a little bit dishonest. Hold on, Bruce. I think you're being a little bit dishonest there because I think you've said this before. A seventh season of this podcast, we're still going with me, Alastair Bruce Ball, and my two favorite people in football. That's ahead of Mark Chapman.

It's ahead of John Murray. It's ahead of Ian Dennis. It's ahead of Connor McNamara. It's ahead of Vicky Sparks. And the rest of them. Chris Sutton and Stapman Dave. How are you, Chats? What do you think of the new name? Oh, that's a stitch up, Dave.

Thank you, Dave. That is so good. I'd say the same. I'd say the same. Dear or dear. John, you know me. I'd say the same on the commentator's view. Deno Show me, Yellow Cobb.

We're all on the Zoom. We can all see each other. John and Ian have warmed up, so we've already this morning. We're recording this on Friday the 19th of December. But this is going out. Christmas Day on the Ruechurch. radio and then there's a podcast on Boxing Day but John and Ian have already warmed up a little bit

in terms of podcasting because we've already recorded a podcast this morning how are we feeling chaps how we feeling the commentators view team I think saying that we're already warmed up is quite a loose description I would say looking at Chris I feel 100 I feel 100% and no Monday nightclub involvement sadly we we thought it might be a three-way thing but mark chapman and rory smith unavailable and that would that would have been divided loyalties for chris as well in terms of who he would have played for are they your favorite people in football chris sorry sorry the line's gone down john must thank must thank listeners to the commentators view dan and gareth who have separately requested this very quiz so they

emailed us and said they would love to hear this This matchup, this quiz, it is happening. Right here, right now, all the usual rules. You guys have played it before. We're going to try and get through five rounds. Pronunciation buzzer from the FPL pod from BBC Sport is in play. So if I think there's a wonky pronunciation anywhere, that is going to be a point off for your team.

A point off? You will also, in a couple of the... Point off, Dave. Point off, you've got to be careful. We've also, in a couple of rounds, got the golden envelope, some magic answers. And if you hit on a golden envelope answer, you will hear this sound.

Oh, I love that sound. I love that sound. Right. Okay. So the first round is clash of the commentators, right? So people who listen to the commentators view will know this one well. And we are going to ask you first of all to nominate one member of the team to play this round. So both of you don't play here.

So for Chris and Dave, this is 30 seconds quick fire answers on a category. Who's going to go out of you and Dave? I'm going to go with I want to take the captain's role today for our team Bruce I think as a player I captained Chelsea once when we lost 1-0 to Watford and that's so I mean

Yeah I want to make a mess All right John Dear dear God I mean that's It's a bit of an assault But Dave yeah I'm going to nominate Dave Okay so Dave So Dave is up, and what about John and Ian?

Ian, do you think it should be you or me? Who's the captain? Well, I think we should base it on current form, don't you? Okay. In that case, I will represent TCV. Okay. Now, in this round, John, you're going to have to take your headphones off here. I know you're in a BBC studio, but Chris and Dave are going to go first here.

So Deno and John need to take their headphones off. They cannot hear the answers that Dave gives. So Dave is going to go first. So Ian, you're going to have to unplug. And, John, you may just have to leave the studio there for... Oh, in fact, it doesn't matter, does it? Because you're not playing the game. No, it's only Ian.

So Ian, you unplug. You unplugged. Ian unplugged. Chris, you stay plugged in. We will get this quiz started eventually. Right, Ian's unplugged. Here we go. John, no sign language or silly faces.

I think this is a nice and easy start of a 10 this, Dave, right? So you've got 30 seconds against the countdown clock to come up with as many correct answers as you can. if you hit on golden envelope it's an extra three points but if you give an incorrect answer you are going to lose a point for your team producer nathan will keep across the scores right dave all you've got to do is name as many teams as you can who have qualified for next summer's world cup

any teams that have qualified for next summer's world cup your 30 seconds starts now America Spain Argentina Brazil England, France, Germany, Australia, South Korea, Japan, the Ghana, the Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Colombia, France, the Netherlands, Scotland. That is really good. That is really, really good. Do I, I'm not going to hit you with a buzzer for the Garner. Yeah. I think the Garner and the Netherlands, that's two off.

No, I'm going to allow that. I'm going to allow that. Thanks, Bruce. I think there's one incorrect one in there. I think Nigeria is an incorrect answer, which is going to take a point off. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, there are two, there are two of these. Yes, two of them. So, Netherlands, and I'm not.

Ivory Coast with two golden envelope answers. He didn't say Netherlands. He did. He did, John. He did. Don't, don't mess. He said, come on. So listen.

The Netherlands. Nathan will be adding this up in the background. Right. I make it. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, sixteen, sixteen, six. Sixth, minus one wrong, fifty. Great captain, six.

Plus two golden envelopes. Yeah, that's good, Chris. I make that twenty one points. I think that's a beautiful. confirmation. I would have been controversial. I think I would have

got about five there. So well done, done. Okay. Nathan, Nathan will give me, let's get Denno back in. I think it's 21.

It could Denno. Come in. Being corrected. One answer was said twice, so it is 20 points. But Denno's plugged back in so I won't tell you which answer it was. Can I just say as well?

Okay. If there's any sledging, because when we play this on TCV, there is a level of respect. If there's any sledge in from these two numpties, then we stop and start again. Yeah, that's fine. Okay, okay, okay, right.

What I will tell you, Ian, is that Dave's, given that Dave's never played Clash of the commentators before and isn't a commentator, he scored well there. He scored well. I've just heard, 20 points. He hit the golden envelope twice. So, so it's a good start from the FPL pod. Right, Ian, this is it.

We've never, ever, ever. in TCV had anybody who's got 20 points? No. But wait till he hit the category. Wait till he hit a category. Yeah. Here we go. You know, I think you'll do well.

You just need to name as many teams as you can that have qualified for next summer's World Cup. Any incorrect answers, you lose a point, hit the golden envelope, and you'll get three bonus points. So anyone that's already qualified for next summer's world cup. He's already started writing down. Get on with it. Your time.

Your time starts now. Jordan, Uzbekistan, Qatar, South Korea, Japan. You've then got England, Belgium, Scotland, Spain, Netherlands, France. You've got Tunisia, Egypt, Algeria, Ivory Coast, Senegal, Ghana, South Africa. You've got Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, Uruguay. New Zealand That'll do, that'll do That's good, that's good, that's good

New Zealand wasn't in time No, New Zealand wasn't in time Wasn't in time, wasn't in time I agree with Chris No, it wasn't, no it wasn't Any more of that Well tell you what, any more of that Any more of that

And Deno's going to get his own yellow card Now listen, I've got 22 correct answers there I think Plus Ian also got two of these So I make that i make that 28 points for the commentate's view pod davy you've absolutely killed us your answers

in that part of the round now play into the next part of the round because this is how you can add to your score in round one and everyone is involved in this so you're going to get three goes at this each right so off the back of the answers that you gave the correct answers that you gave and i've got them written down here you then have to name me the top scoring all time in the Premier League of that nationality. So, for example, if Italy had qualified for the World Cup, the correct answer to that question is Paolo de Canio, is the top Premier League scorer of all time,

the top Italian Premier League goalscorer of all time. So what you're going to do as a team is you're going to pick a country that you want to name the top Premier League scorer of. If you get the top scorer, three points. If you don't, if you get the second top scorer, it's two, third top scorer, it's one. If you don't get the top scorer, the other team can steal.

So I'm going to let John and Ian go first here as the leaders. So in the country that Ian named there, pick it. Did you say Norway, Ian? No, I didn't. No, I tell you I did say. John, I did say England. So we go Alan Shearer. Correct.

Three points. Right. So Chris and Dave, similarly, you can pick any country that you named Dave and the Premier League's top scorer from that nation. Named South Korea, I believe. You did? You did? Chris, do you want to give this answer?

It's a simple answer, this one. Risky. But you... South Korea's top score in the Premier League. Come on, Chris. That's risky. Simple. Must be human son.

That is a correct answer. Nice. Great work, Chris. Okay. Okay. Back to John and Ian. What are you going to pick next from one of your correct answers? I also said Argentina, so therefore it's got to be Aguero.

Yeah. Yep Okay That is also a correct answer Three points They're on 34 Chris and Dave I've got one Dave

I think France Yeah Did Dave say France Yes he did He did yes Yes okay You're gonna go four It must be

It must be It must be Dave Yeah I'm backing you It must be Bruce It must be Bruce Back in you Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah okay that's correct

Three points Now here's the twist Here's the twist for the last go at this For Ian and John's go, Chris and Dave are allowed to pick one of the countries that Ian mentioned as a correct answer. Okay? So I'm going to read that list out. You can pick whichever country you want for them to try and get the top scorer from. Some of them will be ineligible because I couldn't find a Premier League scorer.

So we've had South Korea. Can't have that. So you could have, Dave, Chris, you could have Japan, Belgium, Scotland, Spain, you could have Netherlands, Algeria, Ivory Coast, South Africa, Senegal, Ghana, Brazil, Argentina. Got a lot of these, Ecuador, Uruguay. One of those, they've got to try and name. I think Egypt as well. Glad you never said New Zealand.

So there's some there, Chris, are very, very obvious. So we don't go with those obvious countries. You choose. You name one day, and I'll take your my reaction here. So the countries I'm considering, Tunisia as well. So Tunisia is an option for you too. I think we go with Spain. Chris, Captain, are you happy with that as a choice to set them Spain?

I think Spain's tricky, yeah. What do you think, Shams? We've got to be careful, John, because if we give them too many suggestions. Yeah, they might get it. That's a good point. I thought about that. I actually don't think that's very fair, because we can't now confer. When you can, I mean, you can.

I do what you want. I don't think that's fair at all that. Spammy short through. No, I have to say there's one that is particularly coming to mind for me. Is there one in your mind? I don't know what's in his mind. Truth. Are you, well, I tell you what, I will leave it with you because I do not want to give them, I do not want to give them any clues.

Anything. So I will trust you, John, because I think. Okay, come on then. Go on, John. Go on, John. Just put your neck on the line. Okay. I'm going to say Fernando Torres.

Yeah. Oh, he's got it. He has got it. He has got it. That's very good, John. So Fernando Torres top scorer. More bien, my friend. David Silver and Diego Costa with the next two.

Right, so John and Ian can flip it now. You can pick any of Dave's correct answers. As their jobs. I mean, well, can I just... It's your job as well. Ali, Dave didn't obviously guess as many correct countries as I did so can you just give us a few ideas of what he did say yeah he got Argentina but we've had that he got Brazil he went for the USA England France Germany Australia

South Korea Japan Ghana Ivory Coast the Ghana Netherlands Colombia what you think always saw the good sports on that commentator's view what do you think they're on maximum point on this round so far. Germany? Yeah, go on, John. Do you think Germany? What about Brazil?

Because there's a lot of potential answers there. Yeah, okay. I don't think it's an obvious one, is that? Yeah, we'll go Brazil. I like that. They're going Brazil. They're going Brazil. Where's Germany.

If we said Germany, that's go to Brazil. It's a popular. Brazil, okay. What I will say, now that you've chosen Brazil, they will like that. John, you've played to the crowds there. What I will say is that I think Germany is the hardest one. I really do it's it's you would not get Germany so but you've gone Brazil Chris and Dave have got to try and name the Brazilian player who scored the most goals in Premier League history can I give you a clue and I know football existed before the Premier League it's not give them a clue John yeah it's not Alan Brazil wow wow what a player what a player he was though John what a player right Chris and Dave you need a Brazilian Premier League top scorer and I take Diego Costa is you take you take you taking him as Spanish, Bruce.

That's a great show. He actually was born in Brazil. That's a great show, Dave. I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but represent. This is your, this is your foretoe. No, don't, look, we're a team here, Chris.

I need to stand up here. So, so far, on my list. Yeah, but don't say, don't say it because they can go over. No, you can. Oh, no, they can steal. We need to steal. Yeah, they can steal. We need to confirm here, Chris.

I think we just need to do it. Oh, they're going to take the risk. Dave's going to take the risk. Because what have, have you got anything, Chris? Yeah, I have. you have i will write down on a piece of paper who i've stopped dave all right do i just show me that okay and then what send it by carrier pigeon so the others can't see it just just for when dave gets it wrong then i no no no no as a captain sometimes the captain needs to step up and show the rest of the team what it's about about winning right uh jesus gaberile juice oh second on the list he's second on the list so you do get two points what a shame but it does give John and Ian a chance to steal

if they can get the top answer on this list and now they can confer to their heart's content Do I had two I had Jesus or Fomino Oh Femino It will be It'll be Femino

But it could be Risharlison You know It could But he did go through a bit of a barren period At Tottenham didn't he Well he did Well about Anderson Cleberson But Charleston's probably had

Shut up, you've had your say. Richelis has probably had more seasons, hasn't it? It's interesting, Bruce hurried us along, and yet the commentator did it. Gilberto Silver, that's a shout. Tiago Silver. What for Topterman and Everton? I think, Ian, I'm going to go with your Femino. I think you're right with Femino.

Femino. Roberto Femino. Well done, Ian. Who scored 82 Premier League goals for a three points for John and Ian. out of interest, how many of the Charleston got? I didn't actually write down the number, John, but I did have to write down three goalscores for every bloomination that's qualified for the World Cup next summer

which took me a heck of a long time. Particularly when I looked up, Leandro Bacuna from Curacao. I'm disappointed. No one went for Curacao. But your golden envelopes there were Lukaku and Jimenez, Raul Jimenez, had you gone for Belgium or Mexico. But Chris, here's something that will cheer you, even though the commentator's view leads 40 points to 28

going into the second round. Roberto Femino, Roberto Femino scored 82 Premier League goals and Chris Sutton has 83 Premier League goals. So he's ahead of any Brazilian that's ever played. That makes me better than Brazil. I'm going to mention that. Next time we do a game together, Chris, I'm going to mention that. That's a great.

That is a goddamn fact. Had we gone for Germany? Yes, go on. Because I would have gone Balak, Michael Ballack. No, not even in the top three. He's a midfielder. interested, he's a midfielder. They're all midfielder, actually,

because I was, you know, I was wondering whether Podolsky might be up there, but he's not. Yeah. Goal scoring midfielder. So, so good. Swine. Swine's so good. At making the late runs and scoring

goals. Dark hair. Scored in a very, very early goal in an F.A. Cup final. Oh, Gundawan. Yeah. Goodwin. Goodwin. Goodwin Haverts, Erzil.

Okay. Right. like let's move it along so 4028 the scores after round one i can't believe that's only round one the next round uh is based on the board game articulate we'll let chris and dave go first because they are trailing so this time again you're working against the clock you've got 45 seconds here dave i'm going to send you a list of things names places whatever on what's app you've got to describe as many of those as you can in the time to get chris to give the correct answer to How many passes can you have?

One, great point, John. You only allow one pass. If you get stuck on one and move on, I am, Chris. Can you not tell? If you describe one and Dave can't get it by the end of the time, John and Ian have the chance to steal it. Right, Chris, the list is on its way to you. Now it's arrived, okay?

You're not going to have the countdown music. Have you got it? Hang on a minute. There's something on there. I don't understand. I don't understand. Come on. What, the second one?

The, yeah. Are you able to read this morning, Chris? Yeah, the second one's a phrase, isn't it? Just get you, all you've got to do is get Dave to say that. You know what that means? Shambles. Okay. We're going to have a little bit of Christmas music.

You can always pass that one, Chris, for your 45 seconds. Right, so this is Chris describing to Dave in round two of the quiz. Chris, take it away. Okay, Manchester United midfielder who's time for Napoli? Scott Motominy. Okay, well, we'll pass the same. second one. Third one. The thing which pulled the sleigh

they are called... Reindeer. The main one. Yeah, the main one. Yeah, very good. Good. Portman play there. Fran Park. Good. Norwegian team Connect Coulton. Managed right at the top of Norway.

Not molder. No, the other one. Come on. Rott the top. Famous. Famous team. Come on. They win it. They won everything. Hold on. Hold on it. Be and John are going there in January. Are you? You're going, Chris? I'm having a mind-blank here. Can you describe it in any other way, Chris?

Not really. It's around the top of Norway. They've dominated Norwegian. Time out. Time out. Time out. So John and Ian are allowed to steal that one. John's coming there with Chris. What's the answer there? I'm surprised, Dave. You don't know that Chris and my travel schedule. I'm surprised at that.

Yeah. Bodo Glint. Go on. Give us the answer. Bodo Glint is the correct answer. so that's a steal. Chris, why did you pass on top things? You can't say anything here. You've absolutely bottled it. I was supposed to be describing.

You were supposed to be doing the answers. That's what we were coming into with that strategy this morning. He's changed it. That's your fault. It's like the ashes all over again, this, isn't it? The wheels have come off very quickly for that. John, you're describing to Ian here, yeah? So I'm going to send you the list, yeah?

They'll probably get Harry Kane first up. The commentator's view have 41 points. the FPL pod has 31. John, the list has arrived. Captain sees a joke here. The list has arrived. How many did they get right then in that one, Ali? They got three.

They got Scott McTominee, Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer and Fratton Park, yeah. We nearly got more than they did. Right. Let's see. Let's see. You're not getting a bit cocky boo. Okay, okay.

Right, so this is the commentator's view. John describing to Ian, Your time, John, starts now. Crystal Palace is right wing back. Oh, Munoz. Yes. First name? Daniel Munoz. Yes.

This is a drink that you have at Christmas, which has avocado in it. Snowball. No, no, it's the other dog. That's a great guy. That's what I've said. He said it, he said it, he said it. This is the Brisbane Cricket Ground. It rhymes with The Hutt, as in Star Wars character.

Oh. Oh, Gabba. Yeah. This is a female golfer, and her surname is, as in Kingston, as in Kingston a pass. Listen, as in Kingston upon. I've passed. I've passed. What did you say it?

Oh, wow. I wouldn't know that. Stop. Yeah, but I was giving you the answer. When I say pass, yeah. Now your team's falling apart. So, three correct answers. Daniel Munoz, eggnog and the gabber

I'd written loads of answers here as well You never got anywhere near them I was looking forward to John doing Clement Turpin Trying to get Ian to say Clement Turpin Which I would have enjoyed But anyway, you've got a chance here to steal That last one So from the clue that John gave

It would be something times But what's the first name here Chris? Kingston upon Tess Kings upon Thames It's right, right? Yeah Yeah So what's the first

name? Do we need a right son looks too happy? Do we need a first name? Yeah, you do. Yeah, of course you do. Well, and I'll tell you what. Yes, you do. And that's written down here.

Both names are written down here. Yeah, both names. Yeah, yeah, no. You do need. Anything that comes to mind, Chris? Laura, Rebecca, Jessica. I mean, I'm not being funny. It's not the beautiful

South and a song for whoever. I don't know. I'm working with nothing today. This is me versus the two. Come and say, is it? Chris, come on. I don't. I tell you what, tell you what, I don't know.

I'll tell you what. You're behind. I'm going to be lenient here. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, give me this. No, no, no, no, no, listen, listen. Give me the, give me the surname. We'll move on, because we've got to move on. Just give me the surname.

Thames. It's Kingston upon Hull, you idiots. Charlie Hull. I actually said it, is it? I actually said Hull. That has tickled me. That has tickled me. I enjoyed that.

There's a place, then. It was a correct assumption. No, it's true. But there was a bonus point for that for thinking outside the box. Charlie Thames. Oh, dear. That was a double-boking. That worked.

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You're still in, right, 44, 31 overall scores, right? But here we go. Listen to this. Now, this is exciting. Round three is called guesstimation. Now, trailing team goes first. That is Chris and Dave. You can choose the easy, the medium, or the hard question here.

This round involves, just hang on, Chris. This round involves some maths. So I'm going to give you three things relating to a number, and you've got to complete the mathematical equation. The closest you get to the answer, right? Five points if you get it exactly. Three if you're within 10, two if you're within 50, one point if you're within 100.

And the answer, all of these answers are whole numbers. You're going to take the hard one, yeah? So the hard one, I'll double the scores for the hard one. Double the scores for the hard one, if you get this right, okay? Yeah, let's triple them. Let's triple them. The hardest one. 15 points.

Yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes sense, because that might... Yeah, pretty much, Denno, pretty much, actually, yeah. Okay. I think that's a yellow card offence, that. Questioning the referee, Bruce. I'm not sure that's right. Yeah, it's true, actually.

That's quite lippy, actually. That is quite lippy. I wasn't lippy. I was asking... I was asking. I hate that. I hate that, it might be an offence. It might be an offence.

That's what I was asking. I hate players who brandished the imaginary yellow. So you're walking a tight row there. Anyway, right, we're going to go for the hard one. So this is equation C. Okay. So, you're going to need to write down these numbers. first of all Dave this one plays

to you actually Mo Salas record number of Premier League goal involvements for a single club okay so includes goals then Bruce goals and assists I take goal involvement is goals and assists

okay you can ask Dave then just make it clear well how many goals has he got Dave you should how many goals how many goals would he have 180 odd I think that's a great that's a great start that's a great start so 180

so we say 180ish And then what do we half that, do you think? Do we half one 80? We don't half in anything, Chris. We need the total. So we need to like, go. We half it and then add it on day. Come on. Come on.

Come on. I'd say on average it's ten of season. My brain is hurting just watching you two in action. Oh, there's only one brain working here, Denno. That's the problem. Give us a total number there then. So plus 80, Chris? Yeah, I'd go 90, but you go 80.

Plus 90? She takes us to 270. I like that. 265. Okay. 265. 265. You're happy with 180 are you?

Right. Yeah, okay. Take your first number and add the number of penalties successfully scored by England's women in the Euro's final against Spain. How many penalties did England score, England's women score in the Euro's final against Spain? and add that to the first number you've got. Is there a lot, Dave? There must have been a lot then. Dave, Dave, you're there? I'm trying to think, Chris.

I need space. For my captain, I need space here. Because at the moment, you suffocating the brain. Did they go, right? I think it was 11, wasn't it? John Murray's laughing, so let's half that. I don't know, yeah, I don't think it was. What, five and a half?

Five and a half. So in the final, so in the final, Yeah, in the final against Spain, how many did they score? Come on. May as well go with five, because that takes us to 270. Okay, yeah, yeah. Doesn't matter how we get there. Then, right, 270 now has got to be divided by, I told you this one was hard,

has got to be divided by the number of points that Europe led USA by going into the final day of the Rider Cup. So what was Europe's lead going into the final day of the Rider Cup? and take the number you've got and divide it by the answer to that question. I don't know why this has come to my mind, Chris, but I'm going to go with four and a half. That's ridiculous. What, whole numbers, I don't think that's correct.

I would say, I think England, I think Europe had a big lead, a big, big lead. Unfortunately, our number's not divisible by that many numbers, Chris. So what the number? So how many? So our number at the moment is divisible by nine. by four and a half though it is divisible by four and a half hence why i said that it is divisible by two chris it's

divisible by three that's good dave i love this dave's playing the game you know the way that this is a christmas special is this actually going to be on all day on christmas day i hope so i'll be worth it real quality christmas listening it's four and a half hours i think there was a big lead i think there was something you know i think it was something like six okay so that that that that That brings you to 45, right? And then you've got to divide that by the number of rounds that Alexander Usik needed to stop Daniel Dubois at Wembley to become a two-time undisputed heavyweight champion.

So how many rounds did it take Usik to stop Dubois? Use that number. Divide you what you've got, which is 45. I've got a final answer. Go on. Yeah. Five. What, for the rounds?

No, no, no. What's that the answer to? One with nine rounds. Nine rounds. So 45 divided by nine. Love it, Dave. It was five. Okay, five.

That's right. Makes sense. There's some sense there. Okay. Okay. What I will tell you is, you've done really well there, I think, really well. You're going to be a little bit annoyed that you've not got closer. So, Mo Salas, record number of Premier League goal involvements, 2-7-7.

So that was really well worked out, okay? Number of penalty scored by the lioness is. was 3. So 277 plus 3 is 280. So you're slightly out there. Europe led the USA by seven points. So Chris, you were pretty much bang on there. So 280 divided by 7 is 40. And this is the key one. So you were on 45 at that point. So you're pretty close. The number of rounds Ussick needed to stop Dubois was 5, not 9. If you'd gone 45 divided by 5, your answer would have been 9. You'd have been one away from the actual answer of eight.

So you're three away, which means you get three points times three. You get nine points for your efforts there. All that work for nine points. Puts you on 40. If you look at the good parts of that section, I did well there. You did really badly. You know, as a leader, Chris, I think the reason why you may have only captain Chelsea once was probably this problem here, Chris, is I don't think you're working well with your teammates today.

And a lot of the mathematics in, hold on a second. Chris. This is a dressing down in the dressing room at half time because you have been woeful so far. I need you to step up. You've been rubbish. You could take the armband off and give it to Dave. Listen, John and Ian have got to do theirs and we've still got two rounds to get

through him. I think we can do it. John and Ian, you've got a choice of easy which will give you five points if you get bang on or you can go for the medium question which will give you ten points if you go bang on. Should we go a medium? Yeah. If that was the hard one, I think

I think medium would be all right. Okay. Okay. Give me one sec. He's just redoing the medium answer to make it easier for the commentators view of the podcast here. Absolutely. It's because there's quotes that we heard at the start of the show.

He has to balance it out, don't he? Right, here we go. I think that's unlikely because you're his favourite. That's going to hold me forever that is. Come on, it's a throwaway line at the start of a pod. Start the season, trying to get the guys on board. Love you all, guys. Right, here we go.

First of all, guys, I need Trent Alexander Arnold's show. shirt number at Rail Madrid, having made his move from Liverpool. So what shirt number does Trent Alexander on a wear? Is he 606 there as well? Yes, I think he is. Okay. He is, 66. He didn't play last year.

Add the number of matches that will be played at the World Cup next summer. That's 104. Oh, my God. Okay, so add your two numbers together. That's 170. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Then add the number that is on last. Orlando Norris' title-winning McLaren car. What number? Is it number five? Is it five or four? I haven't got a clue. Four. That means it's five.

One, I think. It will be next year. It will be. Very good. Very good. Okay. What are you going with there? I don't know, but I've just got five in my head.

Yeah, we'll go five because Chris told us to go four. Okay. You've got to divide that by Chris. Sutton's shirt number at Villa. What number did Chris wear at Villa? He won't have a clue. Was it still 1 to 11 in those days? That's lovely. That's lovely.

What would Chris have been? Would Chris have demanded to have? Yeah. Because he was a senior pro at the time. So, John, if we're working on 175, then that limits the number that it could be, doesn't it? That's what I'm thinking. Do you think he might have demanded, like, number 10 or something? It's got to be a whole number, hasn't it?

Has it got to be a whole number, Ali? Correct. There's not 10 and a half, is it? So, therefore, it's got to be either 5 or 15. Well, it wouldn't have been 5, surely. 15's a dodgy number for you, Chris. Would Chris have asked for 15? That's surmising that we're working on 175 being correct.

We are, yeah, yeah. Might have asked for 15 for the number of children he's got. Oh, Bruce. You're better than that, Bruce. That's the line of the day, by the way. So if it was 175 divided by 15, that would be, no, that's not an answer. Okay, do you think we should say five then? Yeah.

Because that gives an answer of 35, doesn't it? Yeah, we'll go five. Okay. we'll do that okay don't go five don't go five I'll let you change it I'm almost going to go in reverse here

well Chris tell me what shirt number you've got down here what you think you wore at Villa I think you were miles though I think I was 20 you were 20 right but anyway we'll go back to the start

that's a catastrophe you call what the choice of number you cause yourself a big problem Trent Trent wears 12 at Rail Madrid he doesn't wear 66

So you're miles out already. FIFA World Cup, you were right, 104. Lando Norris, four on the car rather than five. But the final answer was six. The final answer, the final answer was six. And your final answer was 35. So you were within 50. No, no, no.

You get four points for being within 50. Oh, for a percent. It's in the rules. It's in the rules. No, that's the scoring system. Did you know, if you read the rules, you'd know that. Yeah, no one's got the rules. There aren't any rules for this.

Next round is Sutton Death. What are the scores now? People will know Sutton Death. What are the scores? Oh, sorry. Scores on the doors. Yeah, that's what the Quizmaster's supposed to do. John and Ian, representing the Commentator's View podcast, are on 48.

And Chris and Dave, but if a comeback in the Guestormation round, are on 40. So there's only eight points between you. And there's good points available in Sutton Death. Now, you guys will know Sutton Death. We play this regularly on the FPL podcast from BBC Sport. No one unplugs here. You take it in turns to give answers. The way we're going to do this one is,

as soon as an incorrect answer is given, that player is out, but it's not the end of the game because their teammate can continue on their own until they're both out. And we are going to give a point for each correct answer, but there are a couple of golden envelopes in here. So if you land on those,

you will get yourself three points. So your category is rather timely because we are recording this the morning after the BBC's Sports Personality of the Year show. The main event, the main event last night, or the main award was won by Rory McElroy, but we actually, in Sutton Death Today, are looking for winners of the World Sports Star of the Year award.

that used to be called the Overseas Sports Star Award. So basically this is not UK sportsmen and women. These are massive names. These are world superstars you're looking for here that have been given the overseas sports personality of the year award that they now called the World Sports Star. And just to give you another couple of little clues, lots of tennis in here, lots of athletics, golf, football, boxing,

Few cricketers, only a couple of Formula One, a couple of Rubber Union. That's all I'm going to give you. Can I also ask when it started? Because it was a... Oh, that's a good question. Yeah, yeah. It started in 1960. First winner was in 1960.

And they were overseas. All the way back. Okay, right. Yes, yes, yes, yeah. No, it's a brilliant list. It's a brilliant list. It's a brilliant list. So, and by the way, if you're the last man standing here,

I'm going to allow you to keep going and keep reeling off names until you get one wrong. So once three people have gone, you're allowed to keep going here. And I'm going to go in, I'm just going to keep it simple, alphabetical order. So that is going to be Chris, then Ian, because that's alphabetically first for John and Ian's team. Chris Ian, Dave John, Chris Ian, Dave John.

Right, Chris, start us off. We are looking for world sports star of the year winners. Far away. Well, Tiger Woods, I'll say, Bruce. Good start. Right, Ian. Savi by Osteros. It's a great shout, won't it in 1984?

My sport, other than Chris Sutton, he's my sporting idol, my favourite sportsman of all time. Dave. Maradonna. I don't think he won't it. Dave's out. Dave's out early. Chris is on his own here. Who's deciding this?

Waffle. I have like a thousand names. John. John. John. That leads Dave with 999 names on his list. Could have taken the title. I'm going to go for any of them. John. I'm going to go for the current holder, Mondo de Plantis. Oh, that's excellent.

I've got to say, I've never heard of him. Never heard of Mondo de Plantis. Well, that's disrespectful, actually. Pole Voltus, which is very famous, Paul Wolter. He won it two years in a row. Oh, the pole, why didn't you say the pole, Volta? He's won it two years in a row. I know, exactly.

He's a world superstar. Chris, your go. You're now playing for your team. Just going to write, how do you spell? This is Adlerton in Joburg. D. How do you spell? You.

Just give us an answer. I'm going to say that, I mean, this guy must have won it. You're saying Bolt. This must be. Very good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Won it three times. three times okay so it's only it's two points all in this game at the moment

Chris as the captain doing the business here Denno I want to go be on Borg good answer Denno very good so Chris back to you now because you're representing FPL pod from no no no no no because otherwise you lot are going to absolutely pile on the points doing that Chris still plays for their team yeah yeah alternate shots yeah alternate shots you said cricket didn't you I'm going to say because you said cricket yeah

You think of the greats, the great cricketers. Yeah, the great. I'm going to say, I'm going to say Brian Lara. I thought you were going to say Don Bradman. It's the golden envelope. What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean?

What it means, Chris, is your current overall team score is 45, and it's up against 51 from John and Ian. But that's important. That's a good score. There is one other golden envelope answer still available. There is an alternative theory there that Dave's looking, and then texting Chris the answers. Oh, that would be horrendous.

I can't think you even suggest that. Hey, hey, hey, hey, do you know what, then? I'm taking a point off for suggesting that. That is awful from you. At one point, that's minimum free. No, it's me as well. The FPL pod from BBC Sport absolutely prides itself

on its integrity in playing these games because we've had people come on our pod and cheat the hell out of it and we can't stand it. Has they done? So, right, Denny, you can get your point back by giving me a correct answer here. It's me, not him.

Oh, it's John. Sorry, John. Yeah, get a great. Can you make amends for Deno's lip? Incidentally. And by the way, actually, I'm giving Chris a correct answer one point there for, who did you say? Lara and the three bonus. So you're actually on 46 total.

Yeah, 46. No more points. 46 now plays 50. Roger Federer. Very good. Okay. I'm going to say Nadeau. Yeah, correct.

Deno. Pelle. The greatest. How far back does this go? 1960. We've already established that. So Pelle gets on the list but Maraddonald was a disgrace. This is starting to get a bit tetchy.

This is a bit Sunderland, Newcastle now. This has got edgy. Well, here we go. If it's gone that far back, Muhammad Ali was a world star. He must have won it. Must have won it. Correct, correct.

Yeah, it's good pace. I'm enjoying the pace that's being played out now. Serena Williams. It's an astonishing omission, John, that she's not on the list. I cannot believe she's never won this award, given what she's done in her career. It's astonishing that she's not on the list, but she's not on the list. John is out of the game.

Look, he's spewing. I could have sworn I saw her win it. I've got three world stars, Dave, here. You're on the capo. Just give a three world stars. Cristiano Ronaldo. Go on. Saturn's delivering in the white.

heat of battle here. What's Dennis got? What's Dennis got in return? Martina Navratilova. No way. It's good. It's not golden envelope, but it's good. What about I and Mike Tyson then? He was a world star. I mean, the best in the world, maybe the best has ever been. What about I and Mike Tyson? Better than Mahomet. Very good. I will stick with a tennis theme. Yeah. Billy Jean King.

Yeah! Oh, come on, Chris. Come on, Chris. Chris, come on. Right, listen, your score is 50. They're on 53. You can build your score here until you get one wrong. Keep going.

And if you get golden envelope, jobs are good. Olympics. Olympics, Bruce. Olympics, he cleaned up this. Play shots. Carl Lewis. Who is this, Chris? Who you took?

Oh, the gap closes to two points, Carl Lewis. Chris, you can do something special. Come on, you've got something special. Come on, you've got more. I've got a rugby who is an absolute incredible, incredible world star. But this is a fun, Dave. Jonah Lomu. That's a correct answer.

Better within one. You got any more, Chris? I'm going to go cricket. Shane Warren. This to level the scores. Oh, she's done. This can be the biggest upset at all time. I'm going to go, I don't think anybody said messy.

That's correct. They're in front. Chris, this is brilliant. Keep going, come on, Chris. Come on, Chris. Come on, I'm putting you on the clock now. I'm putting you on the clock. You can't put me on the clock now.

We're in the lead, Bruce. Yeah, that's bad, Bruce. That's not sporting. Come on. Such in Tendulka. it's incorrect is incorrect so your other cricketers your other cricketers were hang on a minute do we not have a chance no we're not doing that job no cigarfield sobers Michael Schumacher uh never won it did he not uh Formula 1 Vettel

won it where's the other Formula 1 Nikki Louder Nicky Louder Nicky Louders is a joke golden envelope tennis player won Wimbledon at the age of 17 shocker red hair Becker Boris, Becker Yeah, yeah All three points Right, here we go Final round, final round

So, scores on the doors Chris and Dave Representing the FPL pod From BBC Sport Lead by a point After that, I mean, what a game What a game of something dead So here we go

So that means the team That's in front Goes first in the book round We've just been first Every round And people who know the quiz Will know how this goes Basically

I have asked both teams to pick a sporting autobiography, they fished out the real, the correct opening sentence, the sentence that's in the book, and they've written two made-up sentences, and they're trying to bluff their opponents with the made-up sentence. So if you get the correct answer, if you identify the correct answer, you get five points for your team, but if your opponents bluff you, they get three points for bluffing you. So Dave and Chris will go first. The book that's been chosen here by your opponent, is Len Shackleton's clown prince of soccer.

Clown Prince of Soccer. Len Shackleton played for England a few times, was mainly a Sunderland footballer. I chose this one because I thought Len Shackleton might not be in Dave's stats. I actually read this book this week, actually, John. Did you? Well, how fortunate.

Okay, so, Len Chackleton, who famously included in this book a chapter, Chapter 9, which was headed the average director's knowledge of football and the chapter was empty. That is the, it's one of the most famous, it is one of the most famous football autobiographies. But was the first line in Len Shackleton's autobiography, A, they never come back in boxing. In football, however, we sometimes do, as I do. discovered in the autumn of

1954? Or was the opening line B? The professional footballer's contract is an evil document or was it opening line C ever since I started putting two and two together and that was a long

time ago I have had a passionate interest in football? I think it's not C. What was C John? Can you just read C out? C was ever since I started putting two and two together and that was a long time ago, I've had a passionate interest in football. That sounds like a deno, something hid right out.

Deno, it's quite basic, not that exciting, very sort of run-of-the-mill. So I'm going to rule that. Bear in mind, this was written by a footballer. Well, what do you think, Dave? What's your thoughts? So there was a bit of a tell. Obviously, I'm not going on what was coming out of the mouth. I was going on body language.

And B, there was a little look up halfway through. it's either sell the story Chris or it's the one so it might be right or wrong well that narrows it down what I'd say out of the three Chris I haven't finished my body language analysis here guys

what I'd say out of the three is John only did that for B so A and C there was no look up and it was on the page very much focused down either John is to find his poker player in the world, or there's a tell there, Chris, where B might be the one that is correct. I've seen Murray play people like a piccolo day before. I've seen this. I've seen this movie

before. But I want you to... I want you to take responsibility here, Dave. I don't think it's... I've said it's not the third one, Dave. So, I mean, you, you is our body language expert. Imagine if we win it on your body language. I think it's the first one. What was the first one, John? They never come back in boxing. In football, however, we sometimes do, as I discovered in the autumn of 1954. There's context in that, Chris. There's a year in there, which tips it that way.

Chris, I think we go with you. You've played well today. Let's go with A. You want to go with A. Let's go with A. Is that your final answer? John looks quite happy now, though, Chris. It would be the one concern.

He's dropped back hand over the mouth. I need an answer. I need an answer. Yeah. Let's go. Let's go with Dave. This is on Dave. No, no, no.

This is with you, Chris. A. Okay, we're locking A in. I can tell you, Chris, bang on about number three. Should we do the other one first? Should we do the other one first? And then reveal at the end. Ooh, I like that.

Okay. Okay, John, why don't you take... No, you're absolutely right. That's even better, actually. This quiz is improving all the time. Okay. It's been made up all the time. Yeah, let's do it that way.

Okay, let's do it that way. Right, here we go then So that answer's locked in We know they've said A Right Now Dave Would you like to read these Or do you want me to read these

Nope, I would like you to read them Please Alistair I'm going to read these Okay, here we go So the book chosen by Chris and Dave For Ian and John Is Andrea Peelos I think

Therefore I play So we've gone That's surprise us mate I thought I have to say I was expecting Mr Tickle Wow

Deering me Right your three lines Your three lines from this book Pizza should be simple That is the first rule Okay Number two A pen

Beautiful granted But still just a pen Number three Winning the Champions League Is supposed to be chaos So one of the choices For an Italian footballer First word was pizza

That's got to be written by Sutton C mentioning the Champions League for C which leaves me with B a pen is beautiful I thought that then I'm thinking that that's too simplistic No, I can't be pizza Well we both thought the same

So we'll go B Oh wow Locking that in? Yeah So they've gone for B Chris and Dave have gone for A going into this round, Chris and Dave led by a point 5453. Let's start with John and Ian then as the trailing team.

If you'd said, A, pizza should be simple, that is the first rule. You would have been wrong. That is a bluff. That is not in Andrea Peelow's book. If you've gone for C, winning the Champions League is supposed to be chaos, you would also have been wrong. You've got the right one. So you've got the correct answer. Of course we have.

which puts you onto 58 points, which means Chris and Dave have to get this right. So the scores here are 58, 54. If they get this right, they win it by a point. Sorry, there's a body language expert here, Bruce, just going to dive in. I can read John's face already. It was B, wasn't it? Here we go. Big build.

So, if John and Ian, if John and Ian bluff you here, they're going to win this by 61 points to 54, but if Chris and Dave have correctly identified Len Shackleton's opening sentence the clown prince of soccer they're going to win this blockbuster of a quiz so let me tell you Chris immediately

wrote off number three ever since I started putting two and two together that was a long time ago I've had a passionate interest in football don't know he wrote it but it was that you were right to rule that out that's incorrect so you're down to two as Dave said right or wrong A or B 50-50 here we go who's going to win the quiz

so you went for they never come back in boxing in football however we sometimes do as I discovered in the autumn of 1954 and you chose that over number two which had all the body language about it the professional footballers contract is an evil document

the actual opening sentence to Len Shackleton's clown prince of soccer is they never come back in boxing in football however we sometimes do as I discovered in the autumn of 1954 They got it right and they won the choice. They won it by a point.

My favorite men in football. My favorite. That's an astonishing way. And I tell you what, you know what's really come back to haunt John and Ian here. Ill discipline. The minus one. The minus one point.

No, it hasn't. What's come back here, the bias from the referee, the bias from the referee has been astonishing. You said it at the very, you said it at that, Bruce. You said it at the. the very start that they were your favourites it has shown it has been an absolute no it's

been corrupt so listen what a quiz not to mention the garner as well by the way by the way you took you've got the point of when we were running away with it to create the jeopardy absolutely oh dear come on with the favour of winners lose with a bit of dignity well no no i've spent too much time with you chris four of the finest footballing minds showing their stuff. Chaps, that was amazing. Thank you very much indeed for all taking part. We're going to have to do it again next year. There's going to have to be a rematch. Oh, I'd love to. It's going to be a cold Christmas. I just look forward to the next episode of the commentator's view when you've already said that you prefer working with Dave and Chris.

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