Forbidden History - Portugal vs. Castile: The Battle of Aljubarrota

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

In this episode of the Forbidden History podcast, we journey to Portugal to uncover the secrets of the 1385 Battle of Aljubarrotta, where Portuguese forces and their English allies triumphed against t...he Castilians and French. Could an ancient ossuary filled with the battle’s fallen unlock new insights into medieval warfare in Europe? Cast List: Tim Sutherland: Archaeologist, University of York Manuel Joao Matias: Dryas Octopetala Archaeological Services Professor Joao Gouveia Monteiro: Universidade De Coimbra Simon Richardson: Metal Detectorist Nuno Barraca: Geophysicist, Dryas Octopetala Archaeological Services Professor Eugenia Cunha: Forensic Anthropologist, Universidade De Coimbra Eric Meyers: Narrator Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Forbidden History Podcast. This program is presented solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It contains adult themes. Listener discretion is advised. AD 1385, English and French troops fight to the death. But this is not Flanders or Picardy. It's the heathered Morland of Portugal. The country itself would have been different completely.
Starting point is 00:00:34 It's a question of independence. An important battlefield long thought to be lost. Now archaeology is helping rescue the past and bring new light to the epic events of the Battle of Algebraata. In this episode of the Forbidden History podcast, we explore a fascinating story from the medieval world, between the 5th and the 15th century. We're joined by Tim Sutherland, who is one of Britain's most experienced archaeologists. He and a team of specialists try to understand medieval life by exploring the realm of the medieval dead. We have a classic view of the storybook medieval life. We don't hear the stories about the common man trying to keep his family alive.
Starting point is 00:01:22 In our stores, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of skeletons. Archaeologically speaking, we can now focus in on the medieval dead people. You're looking for clues in the skeleton all the time. And you couldn't help almost look through their eyes thinking, what did they see? How did they die? The Hundred Years' War consumed other parts of medieval Europe, not just the battlefields of northern France. English and French armies continued the war in other theatres, supporting allied regimes in their own domestic struggles. A lot of people think that Hundred Years' War is about England and France, especially in this country.
Starting point is 00:02:03 What they don't realize is it it incorporates other parts of Europe. including Spain and Portugal. And a lot of the Portuguese armies were boistered by English troops who went over there as a sort of mercenaries to fight on behalf of Portugal against the Spanish. At Algebraota in Portugal, French knights fought here alongside troops from the Kingdom of Castile. Their opponents were King Jouao I's army of Portugal
Starting point is 00:02:33 and its English mercenary allies. It's hardly remembered in the story of the Hundred Years' War, yet for the Portuguese, it's one of the most important events in the country's history. Oswald is very, very important in history, because on one side, you have the Portuguese nobles and the Spanish nobles. On the other side, you had the English army and the Portuguese people. It was historically the end of an era, and it started the discoveries and the voyages after that.
Starting point is 00:03:07 The battle was a founding moment for Portugal. King Joao I faced heavy odds against the much larger invading Castilian and French force. His army commander, Domino Alvarez Pereira, won a decisive but costly victory in the battle and cemented Portugal's ruling dynasty for centuries to come. Zhao Guvaea Montero is one of Portugal's foremost medieval scholars. We have Portuguese in both sides in the Battle of Alshbarota, the eldest with the Castilian king and the younger sons and bastards with a Portuguese king. Portuguese independence was a consequence of the Battle of Aljjbarrota because Portugal
Starting point is 00:03:54 remained as an independent country and John I of Castilla didn't manage to join the two crowns, the Portuguese crown and the Castilian crown. Algeborota lies amid the rolling hills 75 miles north of Lisbon. For many years, the site of the battle was relatively untouched in a rural backwater. Over centuries, the ground hardly changed. Then, in the mid-20th century, came development. The landscape changed very quickly as building work commenced in the whole area. It seemed this important battlefield was lost forever.
Starting point is 00:04:36 But over the past decade, there's been a resurgence in interest. The Battle of Algebarata Foundation was formed to promote interest and learning in the events of 1385. The center was built on the site of an existing museum, and much of what remains of the surrounding battlefield was then protected, and, where possible, building work halted. Portuguese researchers are now trying to find any traces that remain of the original ground on the which the historical events took place. Archaeologist Maria Castro Atayad Amaral has conducted digs on the battlefield, one of the only
Starting point is 00:05:25 archaeologists ever to do so. Now she's continuing her research spurred on by the developments in this kind of work elsewhere in Europe. Tim Sutherland is one of Europe's leading battlefield archaeologists. His excavations at Tauten Battlefield in Northern England set the bar for investigating medieval conflict and mass graves. I first heard about Aldebrota a long time ago. I was doing some research for another battlefield,
Starting point is 00:05:55 and the name popped up, and I thought it was an interesting story, and then, of course, it faded away. Then later, I met Maria at a conference. We discussed her battlefield and how it related to the work we've been doing at town. So Maria invited me down there to see if there is anything we could do to help them undertake their research, but particularly in terms of the battlefield archaeology and how they would like to progress
Starting point is 00:06:21 and future work they would like to do. Tim's in Portugal to help bring some of his experience to the study of Algebraata. One way of doing this is metal detecting. The technique is now well established for use as part of an archaeological survey, particularly battlefields which cover a wide area and where the finds are very fragmentary. Simon Richard's is one of Britain's most experienced archaeological metal detectors. He and Tim have worked together for decades on battlefields and historical sites around the world. I've been working with Simon for a long time, possibly too long, I don't know. We could almost read each other's minds in terms of we knew which parts of the battlefield
Starting point is 00:07:07 would probably productive, how we'd like to work, and hopefully what we'd find. And of course, I trust Simon implicitly in terms of how he would, work in that landscape. So all I do is we discuss it briefly, and then Simon goes off. And if anybody's gonna find it, I think Simon would do. And that's the sort of confidence
Starting point is 00:07:25 I have in his capabilities as a metal detectorist. Before they head north, Maria takes Tim and Simon to see medieval artifacts found from around the same period as Algebraata. Lisbon's military museum houses an amazing medieval collection. Finds from the Battle of Alchabarota are extremely rare. Few, if any, can be definitely provenanced. So they can only be seen as a rough guide to the kind of artifacts that might still remain to be found. So maybe this is a nobleman
Starting point is 00:08:01 spur and this is not. Fragments like this you can actually recognize quite easily, and even the end, they're very distinctive. Simon has detected fines as elaborate as these back in England. heads I've found 350 and spurs five. One relic the museum holds would be a sensational find on any medieval battlefield. This is really heavy spear point, isn't it? Yeah, and it's significant that if that's in the battle, then obviously there are really good contexts in which iron is preserved, because for that to last several hundred years, it's really significant.
Starting point is 00:08:46 significant if we found anything like that on the battlefield we'd be it will be the first time so that's what we're looking for we'll try our best but they'll be lucky to recover artifacts like these after so many years the battle was fought in the height of the iberian summer when the soil was hard and dry so items dropped won't have sunk into the mud where they might have been hidden from view the victorious portuguese army is known to have stayed on the field for three days days and nights after the battle, so most things of value or practical use were probably collected immediately. The steep valley sides of the plateau of Algebarata made it an ideal defensive position, chosen
Starting point is 00:09:32 by the commander of King Joao's Portuguese army, Nuno Alvarez Pereira. Pereira knew the invading Castilians and French were heading for Lisbon, and their route would take them via the main road up on the Algebraata Plateau. His plan was to block the enemy with a road climbing the steep rise, and it would be impossible for them to attack him effectively. It worked, and the invaders were left with no alternative, but to march all day in the burning sun to find another way onto the plateau. Anticipating this, Pereira turned his army about and moved into a second position,
Starting point is 00:10:13 there to await the Castilians and French. No one knows exactly where the battle was fought, and modern development has changed the terrain surface. What is known is the position of Pereira's command post. Just nine years after the battle, a chapel was built on the small knoll where he set his standard. The tiny hamlet that grew around it was named, like the chapel,
Starting point is 00:10:45 for the chosen saint of the Portuguese, as well as English soldiers. Ah, St George. The patron saints of England is St. George, so we're really used to the St. George's flag. And obviously he was in military saints as well. He's always seen as a knight in England especially. It was near the St. George Chapel that in 1958, archaeologists made an amazing discovery. Human bones had been found from time to time on the surface for many years.
Starting point is 00:11:17 And so Portuguese army officer and archaeologist Alphans Du Paso conducted excavations. He found a large pit, probably an asherry, where many bones had been collected and buried years, decades, or even centuries after the battle. The digs were large scale, but very few artifacts were found which could be related to the battle. Archaeological techniques were less well-developed, and they either missed smaller items, or it's possible they've since been lost. So Maria has to begin again from scratch. An advanced archaeological metal detector survey has never been attempted here. She shows Tim and Simon the battlefield, so with their experience,
Starting point is 00:12:05 they can work out the best place to begin. This is quite a prominent little knoll. almost a circular piece of high ground, isn't it? A very steep behind, steep drop-offs on either side. It doesn't look to me a very big piece of land, not to get the whole Portuguese army on, so obviously they must have fought forward of this position. The chapel was built in the place of the vanguard,
Starting point is 00:12:30 of the headquarters, if you like. The conditions look quite favourable. The ground, it's grassy, but it's quite flat, and it's not too thick, so that's good for the metal detector. And the fact that the ground's damp, that's really good as well. One makes a lot easier to dig. But secondly, it helps the machine. So if the ground's damp, you can find things deeper and smaller.
Starting point is 00:12:53 It makes it more sensitive. We don't want it too wet, but these conditions are about perfect, I say. Further away from the chapel, they can be reasonably sure, would have been closer to the main contact areas during the fighting. I still think were too close to where the vanguard was, to where the Portuguese headquarters was. But it would have been ground, which a soldiers would have gone out over and come back over.
Starting point is 00:13:21 So maybe things have been lost as they've done that. If you could find one or two arrowheads here, it would be fantastic. Maybe arrowheads came in, but I think the centre of the battlefield would have been a bit further away. There's not enough room here, I don't think, to have the Portuguese. It's still a little bit too close, yeah. thousand feet north of the chapel is a plot of land that's been reclaimed by the foundation. Tim and Simon get to work.
Starting point is 00:13:47 The signs aren't good. The ground is tough. It's very hard. It's very, very contaminated. And at the moment, it looks like it's been built on, it's been, had refuse, dump on it and all sorts of stuff. So, I think there's probably stuff here, but if it is, it's really deeply buried and there's an awful lot of contamination over the top of it. When it's as hard as this, it's unbelievably hard digging.
Starting point is 00:14:17 This isn't going to be a straightforward survey for Simon. But Tim and Simon have been doing this a long time, and their spirits aren't that easily dented. How's it going, Tim? Yeah. Things looking brighter. What have you got now? I've got a lightball fitting.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Yeah, we're getting... ring pulls off cans, bottle tops. After a fruitless day, they decide to abandon this first plot. Next morning, they move on to a second area of protected land. As part of the survey, Maria has brought in a team of Portuguese specialists. Nounenbaraka is an archaeological geophysicist. The third GPS profile I do in this area, and and I can see a huge anomaly in the 2D.
Starting point is 00:15:17 It's really interesting because you see very large and it's quite interesting, quite good. Again, this type of study is a first for Algebraata and is very comprehensive, bringing to bear magnetometry, earth resistance and ground penetrating radar or GPR. They've used as a starting point, the 1958 survey, because Maria wants to find out more about the strange features found here back then, which have created controversy ever since.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Alphonse Du Paso's excavation uncovered a huge network of earthworks beneath the modern surface. Many trenches with rows of pits in them ran at various angles across the battlefield, seeming to radiate forward from the Portuguese front line near the chapel. It seemed that these were the remains of the innovative defenses used by Pereira against the Castilians in French. They're described in the surviving chronicles of the battle. When I read and I read it many, many times the account of Frouassar, the main tactical goal was to create a kind of bottleneck.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I mean, funneling the attack of the Castilian army with the organization of some artificial obstacles. artificial obstacles such as pits, trenches and ditches and piling up of trees and so. Despite the heavy rain, Nuno's survey is going well. But in this case, as we have so many structures, so many things, so... And quite deeply buried structures as well in terms of the pits and the trenches. As you can see, this anomalies here are found at 1.5 meters. find some anomalies, some perpendicular structures in the field that are not related to houses.
Starting point is 00:17:24 For example, the road is in this side and in this side and it's not normal to see perpendicular structures that are not aligned to the road. So probably this is manmade but not any kind of house or nothing like that. So I presume what we're seeing here now is a lot of earlier material that we can see through all the modern contamination of the roads and the houses and the gardens, for example. Yes, we expect at this depth, for example, 1.5 meters, that we don't find any modern materials. It's really impressive, that isn't it? The survey has been useful because he's found something that nobody else has seen so far.
Starting point is 00:18:04 You may have found something fantastic. That's hope. Maria will have to wait for a future date to confirm Nuno's findings. The structures are hidden deep below the surface. Perhaps the only evidence of the elaborate battlefield fortifications developed by the English in the 14th century, then brought here to aid the Portuguese. At the foundation, Tim and Simon take a break from surveying to check out the previous work done at Algebraata. His head trauma, it's point force trauma, isn't it, rather than the...
Starting point is 00:18:40 Yeah, I'm not convinced they are poorly crossbow bolts. Yeah, that could be a bit of both. On a few of the bones found during the 1958 excavations, trauma marks clearly indicate conflict-related injuries. Very similar to wounds they've seen elsewhere. They've seen a lot, rightly, aren't we? Yeah, it's very similar to the work at Toughton, and the stab wounds or the arrowhead wounds or whatever they are, the knife wounds, and also Vizbe, obviously, yeah, they're similar. There are quite a few of the examples of these now. So this is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:19:19 There are many parallels here with Tim and Simon's groundbreaking work at Tauton Battlefield in England. There, alongside osteologist Malin Holst, they found a mass grave from the medieval battle, which had been emptied of most of its skeletons. But here at Algebraata, it's a different story. What I find interesting about Algebra is that there are direct parallels with our work at Touton. At Townton, on the battlefield, we knew there was a mass grave. When we finally found it, we found it had been excavated sometime in the medieval period, and it would be the long bones that had been removed.
Starting point is 00:19:59 So it's algebra. We've got the opposite of what we've got at Town. We've got the long bones, we've got the skulls, and they've been put into an ossuary or a pit in the consecrated ground at the chapel. What we don't have are the mass graves. The bones in the foundation are just a small sample of those found in the arborate. by the chapel. The others are an hour's drive away. So next day, while Tim heads north, Simon returns to the battlefield where he's decided to change tactics.
Starting point is 00:20:27 I'm going to try this tree line area today. We did a sample survey in this field and we've turned up nothing but 30-year-old junk. It's totally contaminated to a depth of about a foot and a half. I think those trees are about 30 years old and I think probably the contamination will stop at the trees. The trees are on the extreme left flank of the Portuguese army and probably saw a little action, but there's still the chance as the odd crossbow quarrel gone into there. Maybe people ran through that way to escape
Starting point is 00:21:00 and some pieces have dropped off. They've lost pieces on the way. So I think that's our best chance. Coimbra is a university town 40 miles from Algebraota. Here to show Tim the Bones is one of Portugal's leading forensic anthropologists. I'm Eugenia Cunia Cunia. I'm a full professor at the Quimber University and I've been working with human bones over the last 30 years. What really gets me that bones are really the most authentic witness of our past.
Starting point is 00:21:45 And if we are able to read all the information that is kept in the bones because it's like an hardware and a software, You have to find the right software to open the hardware. And so bones are a breach to archaeology because we will reconstruct life and death on the basis of bones. In 1958, osteology was less developed than it is today. The bones were analyzed according to the techniques prevalent at the time. But then they were stored away for decades all but forgotten. At that time it was completely different.
Starting point is 00:22:24 There was the very classical physical anthropology, which was much more linked with, like, for instance, charyometry, measuring and so on. Then I was lucky because I studied in here biology, and in 1986 I started working in here as a teaching assistant, and I came across to those bones immediately. And so I thought I have to reanalyze them. And we were able to study the huge,
Starting point is 00:22:51 amount of 3,000 bones or fragments of bones. With a team from the university, Eugenia revisited the bones using modern techniques. It was a huge undertaking. So you see the labels in here are Zbarota. Right. Oh, they are. They are all together, mixed completely. And for studying them, we separated by left and right femurs, left and right tumors and
Starting point is 00:23:15 so on. This is a place where they are since the 50s. The 3,000 or so bones here are classified as secondary depositions. They were moved into the Oshuary pit by the chapel from wherever they had lain since the battle, in the open air on the moorland. So you've got lots of different types of bones, but I presume these are from a multiple number of individuals.
Starting point is 00:23:39 So how do you know how many people were actually killed or represented by the bones that were killed? Because we were able to separate all kinds of bones, almost 3,000 bones or fragmentary. of bounds, they could respond to a minimal number of 414 individuals. So you've positively identified 414 separate people? Yeah, we are absolutely sure, because if you have 414 left femurs, of course, we only have a left leg and the right left.
Starting point is 00:24:07 We are absolutely sure. This is always a minimum estimation, of course. Yes, obviously, in reality, there are an awful lot more. Yeah, yeah, of course. And so apparently there was approximately 6,000. people killed. If we think about it, I think the reasonable thing is that they open other mass graves and they put other bodies under place.
Starting point is 00:24:28 So that's what I think it's worthwhile to keep going and try to find some more. Four hundred and fourteen individuals for certain, in total probably many more. Perhaps the current survey will help identify future sites for excavations and aid the attempts to find the remaining mass graves. Bones were radiocarbon dated to approximately the time of the battle. And clearly, these weren't the bones of everyday civilians. They only have included male, male individuals, no females, no kids. This is quite important.
Starting point is 00:25:05 This is not a natural population. This is a select population. They were strong, they are robust, which is in accordance of being soldiers. But it's the physical evidence of injuries that link the bones most conclusively with the battle. There are no two individuals alike, there are no ones alike, two ones alike, you know. So there is always something different that I can tell. And from many formation, there is take a look, a microscopic look, and then a magnifying glass look, and then a microscopic look,
Starting point is 00:25:38 and then more and more, and that is really motivating me. Of the thousands of dead, most were Castilians or their French allies. It's likely their bodies were left unburied for so long by the Portuguese locals. You have like tiny fragments like this one. And then you see that detail in there? It's still got... Yeah. It's still got metal in there.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Metal in there. You see the metal in there? It's amazing. It can be in there still. It doesn't go through. So it's just a kind of surface. Touch. It didn't perforate, yes.
Starting point is 00:26:15 It's not a perforating lesion. So these are either arrow wounds or stab wounds or something. Something that's penetrated the surface of the school? Yes, absolutely. Can you see the cut in there? Like that. Yeah, so that's something like a sword blow? Yeah, a knife cut or something.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Like that. You see that? Perforating in there. Oh, that one's gone through? Yeah. And we did the frequency of the traumatic injuries, and a lot of them were reached in the occipital. And some of them definitely were not protecting the head.
Starting point is 00:26:48 From the Chronicles, it's known that many of the... of the French knights who attacked the Portuguese in the first wave were captured, then executed during the battle. Could these be their remains? So according to some of the chronicles, some of the prisoners that were taken during the middle of the battle were actually executed. Is there any evidence of that? Yes, if you take it to account that a perimorting injury in the occipital bone, it's absolutely in accordance with execution. We have to be aware that this is the strongest bone we have The occipital bone and then the temporal bone is very thick, as you can see.
Starting point is 00:27:25 So it's not that easy to kill. They did it. The familiar evidence of suffering and death on the medieval battlefield. So in terms of this material, it's very similar to the type of skeletal material and the evidence of trauma that we've been getting from the Battle of Touton, from 1461, because although it's 100 years later approximately, it's very similar weapon trauma because they're basically using the same. weapons and it's all typical of medieval conflicts and we're now accumulating
Starting point is 00:27:55 quite a lot of evidence to actually analyze medieval conflict on a personal level rather than at a historical general level. Yes of course. Eugenia's work on the bones shows what might be possible if more ashoeries or mass graves are ever found in Algebraata. The battlefield survey is a step in that direction and while Tim has been away, back on the battlefield, Simon has at last had some success. He's searched methodically all day in the wooded area on the edge of the plateau beyond the contaminated soil. On the 14th of August, 1385, this was the Portuguese left flank. Towards the battle's climax, the Castilians and the remaining French
Starting point is 00:28:45 broke through Pereira's defenses near the center. It was savage close-quarter fighting, with both sides long-pastaking prisoners. As the Portuguese finally won victory, Knight fell almost immediately and any pursuit of the broken Castilians in French was forbidden. The English troops in particular
Starting point is 00:29:09 were angry at missing out on the chance of plunder. But Pereira knew his men would be vulnerable to counter-attack if he let them loose in the darkness. He held his ground, while the defeated, many of them wounded escaped while they could from the plateau. Perhaps over the ground where Simon searched.
Starting point is 00:29:30 I had quite a successful morning. I thought yesterday that the contamination will stop at the trees and the ground in the trees will be okay. Yeah. And that's proved correct. Fantastic. So within the trees, on the slope, the ground seems to be original. Right. So it's not the same amount of rubbish as you'd be found everywhere else.
Starting point is 00:29:53 nowhere near this there's hardly any well there's no silver foil there's no two-pace tubes and hand cream jars and bottle tops and this and the other fantastic well that's really good news but we have had some reasonable find well this is one of the first things i've found is um a little medallion medallion yes that's very nice and it has a head on both sides i don't know if it's um sort of church related or whether it's a commemorative one but it's quite early Quite distinctive, isn't it? It's quite distinctive because the border is offset. It's not been struck brilliantly.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Do you think this has been hammered rather than cast? Yeah, I think it's been stamped. Oh, really? That was really. I mean, if I found that in England, I'd be thinking English Civil War, 1650s, 1680s, something in that area, but I'm not so sure in Portugal whether it relates to that period. It's not easy to tell whether the medallion is medieval. But for sure, these finds are the oldest of the survey so far.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Now, very close to the medallion, I found a ring. But again, it's quite early. Oh. Oh. It's a little, it's a lady's ring. It's a copper band where it has, in silver, a castle turret, a tower fastened on the top. That's nice.
Starting point is 00:31:19 It's very nice, this one. Yeah. So I think that's quite early as well. I mean rings vary so much. I mean, in the medieval period, you can get plain copper band, you can get them with things brazed on the top, which that has. That's a little silver tower or... That's very dainty though, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:31:37 I mean, very, very slender around, no. Yeah. I mean, that may be quite early. That's nice. Can't say it's medieval. I can't really say, but it is early. It's going in the right direction. That's really nice.
Starting point is 00:31:52 I like that. Really nice. The ring seems to be a type known as a Gimel, or Klahtho ring. They date back at least as far as the 14th century. I thought you'd only found one thing. No. Me too, yeah. So I think this may be a jetton, but you see a shield and a crown on the top.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I mean, it's not in fantastic condition. Yeah. But you're thinking it's not a coin? It's like a coin. It's called a jetton. Jetons were tokens used for counting or in gambling games, common in medieval France or England. Soldiers gambled, and both French and Englishmen were here in 1385.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I think there may be a bigish shield on that side with a crown on top. And there's lettering around the edges. But also, there's a border with a writing in, what we call the legend. that's offset. So that again, that is stamped. Simon saves his best find till last. Now this is a best find, Maria. I think you'd be very pleased with this.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Because I am 100% certain this came from the battle. It's in two bags. Wait for it, wait for it. This one you can display in your visitor centre. Marie has been waiting a long time for this. So have I. Three days. You're not the only one.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Yeah. Oh. That one's nice. Whoa. That looks very nice. Yes. Is it a leather stud? Yeah, it's a leather stud.
Starting point is 00:33:37 The stud, or fitting, is bronze, and of a type used on soldiers' belts or other leather equipment. It's definitely medieval and military. Dropped by a knight or man-at-arms here more than six centuries ago. Let's see how thick the leather was. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Yeah, I can tell how thick the leather was from the way the studs were bent at the back. It's cast. which makes it older. It's not, if it was more modern it'd be pressed. Yes. But it's not that is cast.
Starting point is 00:34:09 I mean, it's not crude, but it's in a way, see the border it varies in diameter. It wavers, it comes in and out. There's a little casting hole, little blow hole in the metal right in the centre. So it's not modern.
Starting point is 00:34:27 You can tell by the field by the way it's been cast. I would say 100% that is definitely medieval. And if in that position there on the Portuguese left flank, it's definitely from the battle. I'm very happy to eat this fight. I just wish I could have found more. I'm very pleased that we've sort of worked out where the best area was
Starting point is 00:34:49 and it proved out to be the best place. And I'm very happy too and thank you very much. You're very welcome. The results have been extremely good for the survey. From long experience, Tim and Simon know just how rare it is to make fines like these for the first time on a medieval battlefield. But when Tim looks at the plot where Simon was detecting, he realizes the discoveries are even more significant than even he first thought. Thought we can see here obviously is the battlefield. It's an aerial view of the battlefield. There's a chapel. There's the extent where we've been working. There's all the tree line, which is important.
Starting point is 00:35:30 and so it should be all the areas you've been metal detecting. What's important though obviously is we go down, if we zoom into this area here, what I initially thought was an area that's been excavated and it's just beyond it. What's really interesting is that where you've been finding these artefacts, it's in an area that's not been excavated. Yeah. Well, we thought that were the ground conditions. It was undisturbed.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Yeah, it looked so different. And so it's paid off by going into new ground. ground where nobody's been excavating, nobody's been dumping material, you've actually got evidence that's relevant to what happened a long time ago rather than what's been happening over the last 10, 20, 30 years. And that's just a small little window in all that landscape. It's amazing how small the area is that you've managed to find that's not been reworked before one way or another.
Starting point is 00:36:25 And even in just that small area, which is literally a few meters wide, you've managed to find a few artifacts. Imagine what we could have found in the rest of the field if it hadn't been trashed. It's such a shame because the whole battlefield, presumably at one time, had the same amount of information over the whole of it. The legacy of Pereira's triumph still towers over the Portuguese landscape. Just a stone's throw from the battlefield, the monastery of Battaglia was begun in 1386, in thanks to the Virgin Mary for the victory at Algebraata.
Starting point is 00:36:57 It's among the most impressive medieval buildings in your... I mean we're impressed, we're pretty blown away, but imagine what they must have felt like medieval times, living in a little house made of straw and mud and timber and you come and you see something like this. It's just everywhere, isn't it? It's just absolutely everywhere. Just look at one piece and it leaves off your eyes to take to something else and something else. Obviously this is the old medieval church but we're getting this slightly later and this is obviously when they're starting to have made it. This is when Portugal is on the way up and And they're trying to show it and I think they've managed to succeed, aren't they?
Starting point is 00:37:34 It's really impressive. So it's huge. The Portuguese truly entered the world stage in the years after Algebarata. With the age of discovery, they led the way in exploration across the globe. At the monastery's heart lies the tomb of King Jouau I and his English queen, Philippa of Lancaster, the daughter of John of Gaunt. The Treaty of Windsor, signed in 1386 between England and Portugal, remains the oldest alliance in world history. Thanks for exploring the past with us today.
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