Forbidden History - The Murder of the Romanovs

Episode Date: May 24, 2023

In this episode, we look at the murders of the last Tsars (royal family) of Russia in 1918, including the decline of Tsar Nicholas as ruler and the increasing instability of Russia throughout WWI. We ...cover their grizzly deaths at the hands of the new communist regime, and finish by looking at a century of conspiracy theories that followed their deaths, including a theory that one of his daughters survived. Cast List: James Sherwood An author, curator and broadcaster specialising in sartorial and royal history, fashion and bespoke tailoring, whose work has featured in the Financial Times, the International Herald Tribune, and the Independent on Sunday. Helen Rappaport An author and historian, she has written several books and is an expert on the period 1837–1918 in late Imperial and revolutionary Russia and Victorian Britain. Andrew Cook: A British author, popular historian and former British civil servant, who specialises in early 20th century espionage history. Christopher Warwick: A royal biographer and historian, he is the author of fourteen published books on modern royal subjects and is the authorised biographer of HRH the Princess Margaret. Guy Walters: A British author, historian, and journalist who has written several books on WWII. As a journalist for The Times, he writes on historical topics for the national press.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This program is presented solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It contains mature adult themes. Listener discretion is advised. July 1918, Yakaterinburg, Russia. It's a sweltering night, and within the claustrophobic walls of Anastasia and her sister Maria's bedroom, the heat hangs heavy in the air. Anastasia had eventually managed to get to sleep,
Starting point is 00:00:32 despite the distant pitter-patter of gunfire and the ever-looming presence of the guard outside her door. Whilst to sleep, she could pretend these worries were far, far away. In the middle of the night, however, the sisters are awoken by a rapid knock at the door. Fighting, the guard says, enemies closing in on the city. It's too dangerous, and they need to be moved. They're told to get dressed and come downstairs.
Starting point is 00:01:03 The sisters do as they do as they're. they're told. Anastasia helps Maria lace up her bodice, careful not to dislodge the small diamonds they've sewn into the seams. Relics from their old lives they keep hidden from the guards. They hope to use them one day if they ever escape, even if they know they can never again be the princesses of Russia. They meet the rest of their family on the landing, their father Nicholas, mother, Alexandra, their two other sisters, Olga and Tatiana, and their sickly younger brother, Alexei. The family are led down to the basement. Once there, Anastasia hears a truck approach outside. It must be their ride away from the city. But to her shock, one of their captors
Starting point is 00:01:55 stands before the family, and from a piece of paper, he reads, By order of the Yatternberg Executive Committee, you are to be shot. On the 17th of July, 1918, at a house in the Soviet city of Yakaterinburg, the Romanov imperial royal family of Russia were brutally executed in cold blood by the communist Bolsheviks. To this day, the deaths of the Romanov family remains one of the most controversial subjects in Russian history. It was a murder mystery that spanned nearly a century and was the subject of countless conspiracies, including the theory that one of the daughters may have survived. For nearly a hundred years, researchers and investigators hunted for the truth.
Starting point is 00:02:51 What they discovered was one of the most chilling royal deaths of all time. The Bolsheviks were terrorists. They wanted a reign of blood, and they wanted the blood of the Romanovs. It wasn't an execution. There was no court case, nothing. It was a brutal murder. In this episode, Russian history experts help to uncover how this gruesome event came to be, what really happened to the Romanov family, and the century of speculation that followed their disappearance.
Starting point is 00:03:22 You're listening to Forbidden History. The podcast series that explores the past's darkest corners sheds light on the lives of intriguing individuals and uncovers the truth buried deep in history's history. most controversial legacies. This is the murder of the Romanovs. Last Tsar of Russia, Nicholas II, was born in 1868 and ascended the throne in 1894. He had a loving wife, Alexandra, four daughters, and a youngest son, Alexei, who was next in line to the throne. The Romanovs were the last in the line of a family dynasty that had been on the Russian throne since 1613, during which time the country had become one of the largest economic and military
Starting point is 00:04:22 powers in the world. To introduce us to their story is Helen Rappaport, historian, author, and expert on this era of Russian history. Traditionally in Russia, the Tsainzerica had always been viewed as his semi-divine beings who was so actually remote from the Russian population at they were almost viewed as these sort of benign gods. And the Tsar himself, Nicholas, had this sense of his divine right. Supplying more context is historian and author on the subject, Andrew Cook. Many peasants would see the Romanoffs and Nicholas in particular almost as a religious iconic figure.
Starting point is 00:05:05 He was head of the Russian Orthodox Church, but seemed very differently by growing working classes in cities like Mosk. cities like Moscow, St. Petersburg and so forth. This was because times were changing, and the Romanovs were growing increasingly out of touch. Nicholas and Alexandra were not indifferent to the people. In fact, they admired the simple Russian peasant and their devotion to God and their powerful sense of belief. But I think they were too blinkered to realize how detached, in fact, they were from the Russian people. With a primarily peasant population, Russia had yet to emerge.
Starting point is 00:05:43 into the modern era. For a special insight is writer and royal historian James Sherwood. The Romanoff dynasty were ruling like an 18th century monarchy, and we were in a 20th century country. There was something horribly wrong there and completely out of sync. Nicholas was very much a traditionalist, like his father before him. He believed in preserving the unique, despotic power of the throne. And because of that, really, he said,
Starting point is 00:06:13 certain train his own path to his own terrible end. With life in Russia growing increasingly hard for the common people, and Nicholas being against any constitutional change, a greater divide began to grow between them and the Tsar. Prominent royal biographer and historian Christopher Warwick helps illuminate this turbulent time in Russia's history. The turning point came in February 1905 on what became known as blood. Sunday, when thousands of people marched on the Winter Palace with petitions, demands for
Starting point is 00:06:55 better working conditions to alleviate poverty. The crowd, including women and children, marched on the SARS residence in St. Petersburg. It was intended to be a peaceful protest aimed at highlighting the poor working conditions of Russia's peasant workforce. The authorities ordered the Cossacks into Palace Square. the Cossacks fired warning shots over the heads of the crowds, and then fired into the crowds when they didn't disperse. It is estimated that over 130 people died from the shooting,
Starting point is 00:07:31 but many more lost their lives in the ensuing stampede as people tried to flee from the gunshots. Even though Nicholas was not in St. Petersburg at the time, and nor did he give the order to open fire on the crowd, the events of that Sunday gave rise to huge. huge resentment against the Tsar. Much of the respect and much of the love for Nicholas II instantly evaporated that day.
Starting point is 00:07:56 That was the first time that the Tsar was called Bloody Nicholas or the tyrant Nicholas rather than the demigod. Even after it passed, Russia continued to undergo a period of severe political, social, and economic hardship. But it was nothing compared to what was about to come. By 1914, the world was supposed to be. seeing the onset of the Great War. Nicholas approved the mobilization of his troops,
Starting point is 00:08:27 which was viewed as an act of aggression. Germany declared war on Russia, and Germany was so much better prepared, whereas Russia simply wasn't, and the losses were almost incalculable. The cost of World War I on the Russian people was catastrophic. They had lost over three million soldiers to fighting, and nearly one million civilians to disease and starvation.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Russia was on the brink of economic and military collapse. The peasants who were bearing the brunt of the hardship put the blame firmly on Nicholas. You saw the imperial family sleepwalking towards disaster. You saw them teetering on the precipice of the Russian Revolution, still living in such great opulence, still blind to the fact that, you know, their people were being slaughtered in droves in World War I. And it didn't help that due to the illness of their son, Alexei, Nicholas and his family became ever more removed from the greater Russian public.
Starting point is 00:09:34 They had locked themselves away effectively at their palace. From the moment Alexei was born, because of his hemophilia, they pretty much shut themselves off from the public. So they, by becoming more and more detached from their people, became even more mythical. And in their desperation, they sought the advice of a prominent mystic whose involvement with the couple
Starting point is 00:09:59 would be the final nail in the coffin for their reputation. His name was Rasputin. After easing their son's pain, he became a close friend of Nicholas, and particularly of Alexandra. Despite many outcries regarding rumors of him being a debauched charlatan,
Starting point is 00:10:21 the royal couple refused to see him as anything other than a holy man. In 1915, Rasputin influenced Alexandra into convincing Nicholas to go to the front line and lead the Russian army into battle. Nicholas was persuaded, wanting to be seen as a strong leader. However, this decision only played into Rasputin's hands. Alexander, in Nicholas' absence, had really become. regent, if you like. That would not have been so bad, had the empress not had at her shoulder and whispering in her ear the influence of Rasputin. And it was Alexandra constantly writing to
Starting point is 00:11:09 Nikki, telling him who he should appoint, who he should dismiss. In just over one year, for example, there were five prime ministers. Rasputin was essentially puppeteering the government of Russia through Alexandra and Nicholas. If the lack of clear leadership wasn't enough to fully disillusion the Russian people against the Tsar and Tsarica, the vicious rumors that then began to circulate certainly did. What made it even worse? And this was where it became incredibly dangerous and incredibly damaging for the Romanovs, who wouldn't hear a word said against Rasputin, were the rumors and the stories that Rasputin. and the Empress Alexandra were lovers.
Starting point is 00:11:56 And there were all sorts of pornographic graffiti and posters produced to that effect. What was damaging was that it wasn't just the ordinary folk that believed this. There were politicians and ambassadors who believed this too, and it was very dangerous for the Romanovs. And it all came to a head when Rasputin was murdered in December 1916. 1916 by politicians and aristocrats who were tired of his influence over the couple. Only a few months later, in 1917, under increasing pressure from the provisional government led by Alexander Karinsky and fueled by the mounting grievances of his people,
Starting point is 00:12:43 Tsar Nicholas II of Russia had no other option but to abdicate. He had hoped in doing so it would guarantee the safety of his family. He made the decision to abdicate while he was still at the front in command of the Russian army. He was a long way away from his family, 600 miles away, and he had to make a very difficult and dramatic decision. And one has to admire him because he felt he was doing the best thing for Russia. Nicholas II actually returned to Zarski Szilou,
Starting point is 00:13:15 to the Alexander Palace, which is where he and the family had lived since the birth of the Zarevich. And they were immediately under house under house arrest. And they were no longer the imperial family. He was Colonel Romanov, and his family were no longer the imperial family. Nicholas and his family were put under house arrest at the Alexander Palace, partially as punishment, but mainly for their own protection.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Kerensky and a provisional government genuinely feared for his safety. It was very difficult for the new provisional government to placate the various different groups. within Russia, some of whom wanted Nicholas to be taken out effectively and tried and shot. Sooner or later the mob in Patrograd were going to come down to Susque Siloch, which is only 15 miles away, probably storm the palace and try and haul out Nicholas and Alexander and kill them. After several months of confinement in the Alexander Palace, the situation in Russia had started to grow increasingly hostile,
Starting point is 00:14:21 with various different political groups vying for power, and often by violent means. The provisional government had to decide what to do with the family, and initially there was a glimmer of hope from an unlikely source. There was this initial reaction from King George that obviously Nicholas, very closely related. You know, his mother was a sister of Nicholas' mother. But he very quickly got cold feet about the offer.
Starting point is 00:14:52 It's an extremely complex situation. And it was withdrawn because, because the Russian royal family were deeply unpopular, they were looked on as tyrants, and they could destabilise the political situation in Britain. With British King George V rescinding his invitation, Kerensky had to take drastic action. It was decided that they were to be moved
Starting point is 00:15:15 further away, away from Zarski-Sullo, and they were moved almost 2,000 miles from St. Petersburg to Siberia, to the town of Tobolsk. Tobolsk is a town in the Tjumian Oblast region of Russia and the former capital of Siberia. Karenski had requisitioned the governor's mansion to accommodate the Tsar and his family.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Here, they were to spend the coming winter months hidden away from the dangers of the ongoing revolution. And the reason they chose Tobosk was that it was effectively cut off for a good six months of the year by snow and ice and the rivers were froze. and there was no railway. And at the time, it seemed a very secure place
Starting point is 00:16:01 to move the family too. Clearly, this was a little bit of a come down from living in a royal palace, but it was still a reasonably civilized surroundings and standard of life. Primarily for that family, as long as they were together and allowed to see the world outside and take fresh air and walk and be a family,
Starting point is 00:16:20 that is what they clung to. And that really is what kept them going. But then again, the imperial family believed in fate. They were deeply religious people, so they believed that anything that happened to them was sent by God to try them. And my goodness, would that come home and haunt them? By October, the Bolshevik Party had overthrown Kaczynski's government
Starting point is 00:16:45 and seized control for themselves. The Bolsheviks were what became the Communist Party, founded by Lenin in 1905. And they rose to power, really, on the fall of the Tsar, but also the ineptitude of the provisional government. Theirs was a reign of terror. And the Bolsheviks were terrorists. They wanted a reign of blood,
Starting point is 00:17:06 and they wanted the blood of the Romanovs. At the moment the Bolsheviks took over, probably all chance and all hope of getting out began to fade very rapidly. And yet they found the good in it. They found the positives. They would have been more than grateful just to be allowed to live out their lives,
Starting point is 00:17:25 and just be a loving and supportive. family, but everything changed. While the family were in Tbilsk, now in the capture of the Bolsheviks, fierce fighting broke out across Russia between the new Bolshevik government and the anti-communist white army. The pro-royalist white Russians, who wanted the Tsar reinstated, were now closing in on the house in Tbiltsk. The Bolsheviks holding the Romanovs decided they had to move them somewhere even more secure where they could keep even tighter control over.
Starting point is 00:17:57 of them, which was the city of Yucaterinburg. They were moved to a former merchant's home called a Patiev House in the city of Yacatranburg in the Russian Urales. This was to be a far cry from anything the family had ever experienced before. Known by the Bolsheviks as the House of Special Purpose, it was to become the scene of one of the most horrific events in Russian history. Just as the family arrived, a large wooden palisade was erected. all around the front of the house.
Starting point is 00:18:37 People wanted to see. But because the Palisade was there, they were warned off in no uncertain terms. In Nicholas's letters and diaries, he says that they're in prison circumstances. The windows were whitewashed. There were huge fences built, wooden fences around the house,
Starting point is 00:18:53 so they couldn't see anything at all. All of their luxuries were taken away, and they were now under constant guard. Only their most faithful servants were allowed to go with them, including Alexandra's maid and Alexei's physician, Dr. Botkin. They came out to use the lavatory or the bath. There were guards standing there.
Starting point is 00:19:13 They were watched and very, very closely confined. And on top of that, you know, even Siberia gets hot in the summer. It was stiflingly hot. The windows were all sealed close. They begged and begged and begged permission for one window to be opened. It was pretty grim. They weren't allowed the ministrations of a priest. Food was rationed.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Nicholas and Alexandra both said that the regime there was hostile to them and they felt under threat. It soon became apparent to Nicholas, Alexandra and the children that any hope of salvation was rapidly fading away. The person in charge of their imprisonment and the man responsible for the conditions they were living under was Yakov-Yarovsky, a fully-fledged Bolshevik who was described by the local people as a dangerous man.
Starting point is 00:20:05 In the Tsar's letters, he said he was more than unnerved by Yorovsky, and that he sort of had the measure of an evil, evil man. So I'm sure there was a pre-sentiment that they were not safe. They were surrounded by very hostile people. By July 1918, the Romanovs had been at a patio house for nearly 78 days. The confinement, fear, and living conditions had taken their toll on the family. But around midnight, on the 17th of July,
Starting point is 00:20:41 a glimmer of hope as news arrived that they were to be moved. The white Russians were closing in on Eccaterinburg, so salvation might have been at hand. In fact, what happened, the family woke up about two in the morning and told that the situation was getting too dangerous in Eccatringburg, there was too much shooting going on, and they would have to move them down in the basement,
Starting point is 00:21:04 and there they would wait in the basement and a truck would come to take them somewhere else. It was enough to convince the family, okay, we're going to be moved and they were desperate, desperate to get out of the apartheidav house because it was so claustrophobic then. So they got dressed and came down to the basement, quite literally lambs to the slaughter.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Yorovsky was the mastermind behind the whole plan. Yorovsky chose his team from within the inner core, the hardliners who were guarding the family at the house. They weren't chosen at random. No, not at all. He knew which people were going to be involved. But Yorovsky hadn't anticipated the resistance he would meet. Now, quite a few of the hardline Bolsheviks in that house guarding the family,
Starting point is 00:21:52 they had actually got to quite like the girls and be friendly with them and think they were quite sweet and charming and enjoyed, you know, chatting to them. So when the crunch came, the sort of night before when Yoroski was, sort of sitting down with them saying, right, you kill the Zah, you kill the Zare, you kill the Zare, and you kill one of the sisters, and you killed another one, suddenly backed off and nearly all of them said, oh no, we're not going to shoot the girls. We will not kill the girls. Yorovsky insisted, and the guards, fearful of retribution, complied. But this hesitancy would lead to dire consequences.
Starting point is 00:22:29 When the family and their loyal servants reached the basement, they were given chairs to sit down, and were still convinced of their impending freedom. The moment only came when Yorovsky stood in front of the Tsar with a piece of paper and said, by order of the Kachinbur Executive Committee, you are going to be shot. And Nicholas was so taken aback, he actually asked him to repeat it. And Yorovsky read it a second time. And then, once he'd finished, he then took the colt revolver from his pocket and shot the Tsar in the chest.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Now, instead of his henchmen doing what they were supposed to do, two or three others also fired at the Tsar. After the smoke had died down, it was evident that most of the Royal Family were still alive. Nicholas is dead. He's killed instantly.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Because all the assassins wanted to shoot Nicholas first, the others started screaming and running around the room. And that's when the carnage began. And gunshot after gunshot rings through this room. I mean, countless bullets must have gone into these poor people's bodies. And the room is now just full of smoke. There was screaming, there was blood and brains and God knows what else.
Starting point is 00:23:52 The two older Grand Duchesses clung to one another. The oldest Grand Duchess Olga ended up she being shot through the jaw. They stopped firing the smoke clears and they try to see if anybody's left. One of the Grand Duchesses, she's thought to have been Anastasia, actually sat up covering her face with her hands and screamed. Certainly Anastasia Maria, the bullets hadn't finished them off. The guards tried to finish them off with bayonets, and they were even inept trying to bayonet the poor girls.
Starting point is 00:24:22 It was, quite frankly, savage. I can't imagine how indescribably horrible that was that scene, but it was no neat execution. Yorovsky ordered that the bodies of the Romanov family be taken away and buried in unmarked graves at his secret location. Yorovsky had arranged for a fiat truck to come at a pointed-out and be waiting outside the palisades, gunning its engine, ready for the bodies to be loaded and taken out to this site they had wrecked out in the Koptiaki forest. This fiat truck trundled off, overloaded with all these bodies. into the forest.
Starting point is 00:25:12 It took hours and hours to get where it should in the forest because it kept sinking in the mud and getting stuck. They were to be taken nine miles into the forest to a place called the Four Brothers Mine. And they start dropping them down what they thought was a mine working to discover that it was only about eight feet deep
Starting point is 00:25:32 and very shallow and full of water. It wasn't deep enough for the family. And Yoroski takes one look and says, well, I'm sorry, chaps. We're all going to have to come back tomorrow and take the bodies somewhere else because the monarchists and the local peasants are going to find them in five minutes. They had to all come back the next day, drag them out of this water-filled hole, put them back in the truck, and the plan was to take them off 10 miles north of the city to a proper mine and dump them down there. But of course, this Fiat truck again kept getting stuck in the mud.
Starting point is 00:26:05 And eventually Urovsky completely exhausted, just capitulated. and said, right, that's it. We just dump them here. There's a horrible dimension to this story, which almost descends into black comedy, and that was the gross ineptitude in the planning and execution of the murders themselves. He totally misjudged the process
Starting point is 00:26:26 by which you bury a relatively large group of individual people. He just didn't work out how physically demanding, time-consuming it would be. They were finally buried, if you like, in this pit with railway sleepers, wooden railway sleepers put over them. Two of the children were not amongst them. And as we shall see, it's that decision that will have fateful consequences in many decades to come. The Bolsheviks admitted to killing Sir Nicholas,
Starting point is 00:27:00 but would neither confirm nor deny what had happened to his family. The exact fate of the Romanov's remained a mystery to all but those involved in the events at a Patyev house. The Bolsheviks admitted Nicholas had been shot. That was a fate accompli. The Tsar was dead. And the news of that got out quite quickly. But that certainly didn't include the Grand Duchesses or Alexei, which opened the door, really, for all of the conspiracy theories
Starting point is 00:27:27 that possibly one of the Grand Duchesses, either Anastasia or Maria, had survived, or that the Tsarevich had survived, actually, and been spirited away. And in 1920, a young woman, apparently suffering, Premamnesia was found in the German city of Berlin. She was taken to a mental asylum where she was described by the hospital staff as German-speaking, but with a Russian accent. She carried no official papers and was known only as Anna Anderson. Shortly after arriving at the hospital, Anderson, who had previously stated that she had no memory of her former life, made the astonishing claim that she was none other than Anastasia Romanov.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Illuminating this mystery is historian Guy Walters. She spent much of her life trying to convince the world that she really was Anastasia. And indeed, she really did look like her. Her features were very similar. And if you look at young pictures of Anastasia and pictures of a middle-aged Anna Anderson, you can see why a lot of people might be gulled into thinking they're one and the same person. All the time the bodies were missing, people could hope because there was no tangible proof. You know, they could hope that maybe someone had survived.
Starting point is 00:28:43 And the Anna Anderson claim went on for decades. She was in and out the courts, and there were rival camps of supporters and detractors, and the whole anesthesia controversy went on and on and on. And furthermore, people really wanted to believe it. They really wanted to believe that this beautiful, playful, mischievous princess was still alive. well. Anderson remained adamant of her identity right up until her death in 1984. And despite the many disputes to her claim, there was no one who could answer for certain whether or not she was really Anastasia. That was until a monumental discovery was made in the
Starting point is 00:29:26 Siberian Urals. In 1991, a Russian archaeologist makes, frankly, the discovery of a lifetime. After a lot of careful research, he discovers the exact spot where the Romanovs are buried. It's unearthed and there are all these corpses. And they match the Romanovs. You know, there's a man, the right height as the Tsar. There's a woman, the right age. The skeletons match. This is, you know, going to close the story.
Starting point is 00:29:51 The bodies found in Yatternburg were forensically proven to be the Romanovs. But there was a problem. Two of the bodies are missing, that of Anastasia and her brother Alexei. Where are they? All the time those two children's bodies were missing, He could still claim, ah, but there's two bodies missing. Maybe two of them got away. And as a result of this, the myth or the story or the legend that Anastasia survived continues,
Starting point is 00:30:16 and it continues for a very long time. Speculation started to circulate about why Alexei and one of his sisters were not with the rest of the family. There is a theory at the time that Anastasia may have survived the hail of gunshots. There is even a suggestion that she may have unwittingly protected herself. against the bullets. During the course of their captivity, the girls in particular had progressively sewn rubies, diamonds and emeralds into their corsets. I suppose they still clung onto the hope that they were going to get out of this situation and they wanted to get out of the situation with as much of the valuables that they had taken into captivity with them. Many began to theorise that
Starting point is 00:30:59 these jewels acted as an armor, ricocheting the bullets. Many wanted to believe that a guard had taken pity on a in Anastasia and helped her escape. Again, the focus was put onto the now deceased Anna Anderson. Was she really the lost Grand Duchess? By 1994, advancements in DNA allowed the authorities to test a tissue sample that had been gathered from Anna Anderson 20 years before. So they have to find a DNA match with someone alive who's related to the Romanovs. And in fact, the investigators go to no lesser figure than Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh,
Starting point is 00:31:38 the husband of the Queen in Britain. Prince Philip was related to the Zarica Alexandra through his maternal bloodline. Investigators were able to cross-reference his DNA with both the Romanov remains and the Anna Anderson tissue sample. After extensive genetic testing, scientists proved, beyond all reasonable doubt,
Starting point is 00:31:59 that Anna Anderson was not Anastasia Romanov. The whole thing was fabricated. Whoever she was, she certainly wasn't a member the Russian royal family. It turned out that Anna Anderson had been born in Poland in 1896 and had a long history of psychological problems before emigrating to Germany in 1920. But while investigators were able to solve the Anna Anderson mystery, in doing so, they created another.
Starting point is 00:32:29 If Anderson was not the missing princess, then where was she? The search was now on to find out once and for all what really happened to the missing Romanov children. It took over 15 years and numerous archaeological digs, but persistence finally paid off. After excavating a site less than 70 meters from the first grave, they made another startling find. Well, in 2007, an amateur archaeologists discovered another pit containing remains, and they were the remains of an adolescent boy, the Tsarevich, Alexei, and a girl, aged between, I think, 17 and 20, which would have made her either Anastasia or Maria. This proves once and for all that those two graves in the Akaterinberg
Starting point is 00:33:19 hold or held the remains of the Romanovs. We have to confront this ridiculous myth at this point about the bullets bouncing off the girls. The bullets did not bounce off them. They weren't flag jackets. The reason it took so long to kill them all was because the murderers was so inept and there was pandemonium and screaming and running around and thick, awkward smoke. For all the conspiracies, lies,
Starting point is 00:33:50 and press attention that the Romanov mystery received, it would be easy to forget that at the heart of this story was a husband, wife, and five children whose lives were cut tragically short in what is still considered one of the darkest times in their country's history. We all colour history in our own way,
Starting point is 00:34:11 and despite the horrendous tragedy of the final hours of the Romanovs, there is still a certain kind of romance attached to that. To tragedy, there is a kind of romance. And so it would have been appealing to have thought that maybe this young Grand Duchess had been spirited away into the forest. you'd have to be inhuman not to want to believe that at least one of the Grand Duchesses
Starting point is 00:34:39 or the Zaravich Alexei had survived that horrific massacre. The murders of the Romanov royal family were the start of a nearly century-long mystery. It spawned hundreds of archaeological digs, countless tabloid stories, and produced numerous impostors claiming to have survived the massacre. Just how had so many people been duped into believing that anyone could possibly have made it out alive? In a word, Urovsky was an incompetent. He made a complete hash of the execution. He made a complete hash of the burials.
Starting point is 00:35:18 And most of the controversies that exist to this very day can be traced back to the incompetency of this revolutionary. And it shows that history is always a living thing. Despite their deaths, you know, the stories these people will always live. And of course, with someone like Anastasia, her story was always clouded and was always muddied by so much nonsense and all these impostors. Now, with the discovery of their bodies, the true story of the Romanov's can finally be told. Sarn Nicholas II was a complex man. He and his wife, Alexandra, failed in many regards as leaders for their people. But despite this, the horror of their deaths and the slaughter of their children.
Starting point is 00:36:01 cannot be understated. A century of conjecture has clouded the family's legacy. Now the truth has come to light, we can untangle myth from reality and reflect on the chilling demise of the last Tsars of Russia. Could Sarsar Nicholas and his family have been saved by his cousin, King George V, for a deep dive into the Romanov's relationship
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