Forbidden History - The Mystery of the Giants

Episode Date: January 14, 2025

Jamie Theakston travels to Sardinia to meet the archaeologists who claim to have found evidence of a race of giants. He speaks with researchers who claim to have discovered such evidence in networks o...f caves and tombs around the world. Cast List: Jamie Theakston: Investigative reporter Andrew Gough: Writer, presenter and editor of The Heretic Magazine  Marcello Polastri: Sardinian Journalist Paolo Melis: Former Mayor of Las Plassas Ingino Argiolas: Local Woodworker Alfonso Stiglitz: Archaeologist  Enrico Manca: Dentist Luigi Sanna: Pontifical University of Oristano Eric Meyers: Narrator Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Forbidden History Podcast. This program is presented solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It contains mature adult themes. Listener discretion is advised. Why do so many of our ancient cultures refer to giants? Are they simply myth and legend? Or did they once walk the earth? And are there tombs and skeletons of these giants now being discovered in Sardinia?
Starting point is 00:00:26 I am an archaeologist that work in archaeology. from 40 years and never I seen like something like this. I think it's entirely possible the giants of Sardinia were the Nephilim of the Old Testament. Absolutely possible. Do you believe that this tooth may have once belonged to a giant? I don't know. I never seen the feet of these sites before this day. It sounds like something from a fantasy novel, but over the last century, or so, archaeologists have unearthed dozens of very large bone fragments and teeth from
Starting point is 00:01:07 sites across the globe which are thought to have belonged to giant-sized humans, who are believed to have measured several meters in height. Although the internet is full of fake pictures, in Sardinia, they believe they've found their actual burial sites. In this episode, investigative journalist Jamie Thiexton travels to the island of Sardinia to try and unravel the facts from the fiction, and find answers to the burning questions. Who are these creatures? When did they live? And why are they not recognized as part of our human history?
Starting point is 00:01:47 Part of the problem is that giants are associated with legends and mythology and not reality. And yet the Old Testament in the book of Genesis clearly refers to a race of giants called the Nephalim, who it says were the offspring of the same. sons of the gods, who came to earth to seed the daughters of man. The best-selling author Zechariah Sitchin, in his Earth Chronicles books, called them the Anunnaki, a race of giants who came to earth about 400,000 years ago, to enslave humans and turn them into a mining colony. Although many academics dismiss his theories as fanciful, he claimed that the proof of this
Starting point is 00:02:33 was written on ancient cuneiform tablets from around the 3,000 BC that were found in Mesopotamia. Early migrations in the 3rd millennium BC indicate that travelers came to Cardinia. And these travelers, we have images of their boats and they resemble greatly the Mesopotamian boats. And sure enough, on Sardinia, we find step pyramids. So it looks as though Mesopotamians did make a migration around the 3rd millennium
Starting point is 00:03:02 in the Sardinia. However, there appear already at that time to be legends of true giants. giants who were huge and what's interesting is that's validated as we know in the Bible and Genesis in those times giants there were giants on the earth well what Sardinia has is not only a rich megalithic culture whose tombs whose standing stones whose monuments all hearken to giants their names are about giants but we have skeletal remains of people there over-eastern over 10, over 12 feet in size.
Starting point is 00:03:42 And what's interesting is that it looks as though there's some truth to those skeletal remains. In the Pauley-Aboray region of southern Sardinia, over the last 50 years or so, local people have been discovering parts of huge bones, skeletons, and skulls in their fields, which legend has it once belonged to a race of giants who lived on the island long ago.
Starting point is 00:04:08 It's believed that these giants were laid to rest in giant tombs, the remains of which are still visible today, with roughly cut headstones and large, long trenches. But whatever lay inside them has long been removed. Many of the discoveries are made by local farmers, who come across the remains as they cultivate their crops, and it's caused something of a stir on this island, as the authorities have struggled to explain what's going on the land. what's going on to its increasingly bemused residents. There are even accusations of a cover-up, as some of the bones that have been handed in seem to have been locked away by the authorities, rather than examined or investigated. Marcello Palastri is a Sardinian journalist who's been investigating this story for several
Starting point is 00:05:01 years, cataloging the reports of discoveries and interviewing witnesses. convinced that there is something going on. Right now, we're studying many cases that range from oral testimony to written evidence and even some material proof. Unfortunately, there is very little of the latter, but there are some bone fragments and teeth collected by some farmers which they have handed into the authorities. Marcello has arranged for Jamie to meet a local farmer and mayor, who claims to have discovered some leg bones and the skull of a very large skeleton when he was a child.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Marcello's friend, Mauro, was there to help translate. How big was the skeleton? Basically, it was over two meters tall. It seemed to me to be unusually tall. and to establish some proportion, we first measured our own femur bones, and after we compared them to the skeletons. We realized it must have been taller than two meters. Paolo, tell me a little bit more about the skull that you found.
Starting point is 00:06:34 I think it belonged to a young person, because the state of the teeth, which were perfectly shaped, They were quite sharp and weren't rotten or decayed, because there wasn't any sign of real wear or tear. And that really surprised me. Another thing that caught my eye was a hole in the right temporal lobe, a jagged hole which made me think they might have died due to head trauma. They were probably attacked with a club, or maybe even a slingshot, which was common at the time. A slingshot could have made that sort of wound. Jamie asked the farmer to show him the bones and skull that he'd discovered.
Starting point is 00:07:13 But as unlikely as it sounds, the farmer said that his father had destroyed them when he was still a boy. What could have been really fascinating evidence was no more. So was he making up this story about finding a giant skull? But as it was so long ago, and he was just a small boy at the time, it's certainly possible that he just misidentified a large animal skull. Jamie was keen to try and see the so-called giant tomb. for himself. So Marcello agreed to take him to an ancient burial site, high in the Pauly Arbari region, which is said to date back to around 2,500 BC, and where large burials had been unearthed. Once again,
Starting point is 00:07:59 Marcello's friend, Mauro, tagged along as his translator. This is the tomb of Gigante? This is the tomb here? Yes, yes. And this is where you believe that giants would have been buried, huh? Yes, this is very big. It is said that the tomb was built for the sole purpose of providing a burial site to a giant. And then afterwards, it was used much later by the local Sardinian people to bury their dead. Wow. It was built using huge stones, really large ones, one on top of another, with even larger ones used above.
Starting point is 00:08:45 larger ones used above. So when would this have been made? It easily predates the birth of Christ by a thousand years, and some scholars even think that it may go beyond that to 4,000 BC, but no one knows with any certainty. So this is before the Neuragic period. It precedes the Neuragic period, first came the giants and these tombs, and after followed the Neuragic people.
Starting point is 00:09:12 So is this like a stone, coffin? Yes, it is like a stone coffin in the shape of a pyramid, where the skeletons of the dead were laid to rest on the ground, one on top of another. So how many bodies would have been buried in here? Well, in this cavity, if we were talking about average men, maybe as many as 100. A normal people. You believe that giants would have been buried in here?
Starting point is 00:09:42 Yes, I think it's possible that there were these people. that there were these giant men that built them. Was this really a burial place for a giant? Or just an ancient tomb for a high status human? Certainly the location, high in the hills, shrouded in the low-level clouds, lends itself to ancient myths and legends, and it's easy to imagine a primitive race believing this was a sacred site connected to the gods of old.
Starting point is 00:10:15 But is it really conclusive evidence? conclusive evidence of giants. My personal opinion is that a lot of evidence has been covered up, evidence that would disprove the official academic explanations. I know at least 80 people who have made discoveries, ordinary people, country people who are not looking to profit from this story, and we also have many written sources and statements from witnesses about their finds. While the tomb isn't definitive proof of the giants, there are clues to who they might be in the ancient history of Sardinia.
Starting point is 00:11:04 From around 2000 BC, at the beginning of the Bronze Age, there was a race living on the island known as the Narajic people. And by all accounts, they were more than a little interesting. They were seafarers. They were healers. And they were astronomers. Building hundreds of small stone observatories all over the island that were the island that were. over the island that can still be seen today. But most importantly, they seem to be aware of these giants. According to ancient Narajic tablets, there was a race of giants that used to live on the island. Professor Luigi Sana has spent a lifetime analyzing and decoding a series of very
Starting point is 00:11:46 small bronze tablets, which were discovered near the town of Cabras. They're about the size of a human thumb, and Sana believes that they have references to these giants inscribed on them. He thinks that it's possible that this race of giants were ancient navigators who came by boat from Greece around 3,000 years ago. They then conquered the indigenous people of Sardinia, married into the local tribes, and became what he believes were their god kings. They go the word giant which in Serenis, Giganoi. So hang on, so these tablets have the word giants written on them? Yeah, that's what they said.
Starting point is 00:12:32 They're two of the four. Wow, because this is really important for me because this is the first time I've seen any evidence or any reference to giants. That's the proof that the giants were here. The reason why the giants of Sardinia could be the Nephilim of the Bible is not only do we have skeletal remains, which are extraordinary, But the legends of these individuals go back a very long time before media became exploitive. There were legends of huge creatures. And these huge creatures aren't isolated to Sardinia. There's legends of these huge gargantuan sort of men and women in other parts of the world.
Starting point is 00:13:18 And what do they have in common? They all flourished around megalithic cultures. Did giants really exist on Earth thousands of years ago? It sounds like something from a fairy tale. But here in Sardinia, there are claims that the skeletons of these creatures have been dug up all over the island. Time and time again, Jamie was told that the authorities were covering up the truth, and that the bones were being confiscated by the police and taken to laboratories in the main city of Calvary. The further Jamie investigated, the more sighted.
Starting point is 00:13:56 sightings of bizarre remains came out of the woodwork. Ingenio Agiolis is a local woodworker from the Taralba region in central Sardinia, which is where he says he found three huge skeletons back in the 1950s. When I found the first tomb, I called a priest who came over and blessed our backyard with holy water. He then called the police sergeant, then he called the mayor, who then phoned Cagliari, and he called And then later that day, two big black cars showed up with four men inside. They each had large black carrier bags.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And they got inside our home, they started interrogating my father. Then they seized all the skeletal remains he had found in our backyard, including the female skeleton's teeth and the pin that held her hair. They took everything, including the bones, before taking off. After that raid, we never heard another thing about those skeletons. I believe in Genio. I think he's telling the truth and what he says is very important. He thought for many years to reveal the truth.
Starting point is 00:15:30 It's a story that's been deliberately covered up. It's a story which straddles two world wars when, as a child, he discovered a giant skeleton in his father's yard. My theory is he'll die and take the secret to his grave. Dr. Alfonso Stiglitz is one of the most respected archaeologists in Sardinia. He's under no doubt that the whole giant's phenomena is just a myth that can be explained away. What I don't understand is, you know, I've met all these people and they are sensible people and they are telling me that they've found these giant bones.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Why do you think that is? Well, first because the mystery is better than reality. We are more, I can say, more happy if we think that our ancestors were bigger than we, than us, they were richer than us, they were happier than us. But they were normal people like. They were, of course, a giant culture, a extraordinary culture, but made by normal people, and this is extraordinary.
Starting point is 00:17:03 So how do you feel about it, Jamie? You know, it's frustrating because you meet these people who will seem very down to earth and very genuine, and you know, they know what they've seen. They've seen large bones and, you know, and it's difficult to doubt their integrity, but it's just, it's frustrating not being able to see any evidence. A lot of people have told me about what they've seen,
Starting point is 00:17:33 and no one can offer me any proof. And when you talk to the experts and you talk to the archaeologists at the museum, and they all say the same thing. They say, you know, there is no evidence to suggest that that these giants ever existed. And yet it's difficult to ignore what these people are seeing. You know, they're digging up bones.
Starting point is 00:18:01 You know, they seem very confident in what they've seen. And yet there's no, they're not showing me any evidence. With Jamie still on the hunt for some tangible evidence, Marcello said that he discovered a large tooth in one of the so-called giant's tombs a few years ago, which he'd then taken to a respected local dentist for analysis. The dentist was convinced it was human, but of a size he'd never encountered before.
Starting point is 00:18:39 In fact, a size that he believed was impossible. Okay, a few years ago, I had a fragment of bone and teeth, and I analyzed this fragment, and I saw a very big teeth. The measure was larger than normal human measure of teeth. And this teeth was also inside a fragment of bone. I saw three molars, very, very big molars. And you were certain they were human, not animal?
Starting point is 00:19:19 No, no, no, no, absolutely. Human molar. Very large human molar. Obviously you've seen many teeth before. Have you ever seen one this size? No, no, no, never. I never seen the teeth of these sides before this day. So how big is a normal human molar? A human molar normally are 20 or 25 millimeter. And this measure is from Caspid, the point of Caspid, and a point of Caspid.
Starting point is 00:19:55 until the apex of the tooth. And how big was this tooth? 30mm, 1, and the second 35 millimeter. And how unusual is it to find a tooth that size? No, it's not usual. It's unusual, absolutely, it's not usual. And how tall would a person be to have a tooth that size? Okay, I can't be sure.
Starting point is 00:20:25 But I think, but it's only my supposition. We can talk about two meter and a half. But it's only my supposition, because I never see a situation like that. And here, the dentist's story becomes a little weird. Dr. Manka said that he handed the tooth back to Marcello, who then sent it off for further analysis at the university in Kalyuri to try and get some accurate dating on its age.
Starting point is 00:21:03 But after waiting months for an answer, the university contacted him to say that they'd lost the tooth. What could have been real evidence of these giants had gone, like so many discoveries before it. I believe this was a clear and blatant case of a coverer. They never explained what happened, and they never returned my phone calls. Why is it though that people are telling me that they've handed over bones to the authorities and then they disappear?
Starting point is 00:21:38 They believe there's some kind of cover-up. What do you say to that? No, no, there is no reason to cover something like this. I am an archaeologist. If I found something that is extraordinary, it's not normal archaeology. For me, it's very important. It's giants or other things. So why I have to cover this?
Starting point is 00:22:01 I have to study and publish. I am an archaeologist that work in archaeology from 40 years. And never I seen something like this. In the diggings or in the museums. What would you say to someone, the people that I have met, what would you say to them? If they were here right now, what would you say to them? I normally say, well, let me see this, where you find this, what you see, where you have found this.
Starting point is 00:22:34 But they're telling me that they have done that. They've tried to do this. They've taken their bones. To who? Frankly, I find it hard to trust the archaeologists and the academics at the universities. As I have heard them claim too many times that giants have never walked the earth. They never existed. On the other hand, a large number of eyewitnesses claim the exact opposite,
Starting point is 00:23:09 with the specific details and descriptions that make me believe their versions more. They have found the actual locations of these giant tombs. The giants of Sardinia is a complex mystery. On one hand, the idea of actual living, breathing giants walking on Earth seemed fantastical. And yet the dozens of locals that Jamie met seemed convinced that they've seen real giant skeletons. Not only this, but Professor Sana believes that his small bronze tablets actually proved their existence and where they came from thousands of years ago.
Starting point is 00:23:58 And yet, on the other hand, the professional archaeologists say, that it's just a case of wishful thinking mixed up with fakes and misidentified human and animal remains. There were ancient cultures on this island, they say, but they were regular-sized people. Jamie had been on the island for nearly a week, and despite meeting lots of people who described what they'd found, he still hadn't seen any giant remains for himself. So when Marcello agreed to take him to a new underground site that he'd discovered, Jamie was hopeful that his bones, drought would end. The site was an old observation tower from the Narajic period, roughly 3,000 years ago, that had since collapsed into the ground. So it was just
Starting point is 00:24:52 possible that it might yet give up something interesting, but there were no guarantees. Okay, Jamie, we're about to enter this very narrow underground tunnel. It is very dark and deep with water at the bottom. We're going inside in this tunnel. It's been already there. It's suggested to enter starting with a feet. So I slide down into a table of feet first. Right, okay. This is where our adventure begins. Where we start the adventure. Do we have to climb all the way down into there?
Starting point is 00:25:29 Yes. Yes. Okay. Can I go in? Yes, yes. I'm a difficulty? Difficulty? I think it's fine or... I don't think I'm going to go to get in. I don't think I'm too big.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Local researcher and caver Marcello Polastri has been investigating the mystery of the giants for years. He believes that remains have been dug up on the island and then covered up by the authorities. He's brought Jamie to a newly discovered tomb, which he hopes will contain the remains of a giant. But with Jamie standing at six foot four, He's having difficulty just getting into the entrance tunnel, let alone the chambers beneath,
Starting point is 00:26:24 and eventually takes a wise decision to leave it to the experts. I think if I managed to get in there, I'm not going to be able to get out. Okay, you go and I'll meet you outside. If there were any giant skeletons lurking down there, then Marcello and his team would be more than happy to ferret them out. Entering this underground site unleashes a wave of emotion. It's a place that was created by the ancient Nurajic people. There's a dolman perched on a hill, under which is a small entrance which you crawl into.
Starting point is 00:27:04 This becomes an underground tunnel where we found some large stones that almost fell on us. All we needed to do was knock the walls and it could totally collapse on our heads. The most astonishing thing was seeing these huge rocks weighing several tons at least 10 meters underground. What kind of supernatural or superhuman forces were able to create such an environment underground and why? These are the questions that lead me inside these underground sites and to face the risks involved. these secretes, these sotterrano, certainly,
Starting point is 00:27:45 risked also some pericue. Marcello and his crew plowed a head underground without Jamie, heading deeper and deeper into the labyrinth, hoping they'd find some remains.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And eventually they did, but it was just the bones of a small animal. So, how was it? It was amazing. Was it good? Yeah, sorry for being late, but it was fantastic. Rangy, pipistreli. We're coming bats, spider.
Starting point is 00:28:12 We also find some bones, but I don't know if they were used. I don't know if they were humans, but they were very small. Have you got them? No, no, we left them because we could be in trouble. So what was it like down inside? It's like a tunnel and then you need to with yourself, enter inside a tunnel, and then there's another room.
Starting point is 00:28:31 But we found also some writing. Really? So we think it's something like, you know, you call it, satanic. Yes, yes. A torch, candles everywhere. Animal bones and evidence of a cult gathering were not exactly what Jamie had been hoping for. But as Marcello explained, his research is really just a case of trial and error, and lots
Starting point is 00:28:56 of persistence. He says the giant skeletons are down there, dotted all over the island, and he won't stop until he's dug one up. The scriptures speak of a race called a Nephilim. Giants who came from another planet to Earth. In Sardinia, we potentially have physical evidence for the first time of these giants, yet it's suppressed. Why?
Starting point is 00:29:24 Well, it's because there is no way at this point in time that you can rewrite the theory of evolution. You can't possibly introduce the notion of interventionism and life was seated on this planet, even though the scriptures say it by extraterrestrials. That has to be suppressed. It begs the question, in my mind, who do you think? like our gods were. For most of us, giants are creatures of myth and legend.
Starting point is 00:29:56 So the idea that their skeletons were being dug up on the island of Sardinia is quite a far-fetched concept. The stories of the locals that Jamie met are fascinating, but in every case they failed to produce anything tangible to support their claims. Skulls had been crushed, bones had been confiscated, and teeth had simply vanished into thin air. The theories of Professor Sana held considerably more water, but in the end, it's a good story with extraordinary possibilities to rewrite our ancient history, but there's just no proof of any giants. Yet.

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