Goes Without Saying - bao buns

Episode Date: July 19, 2024

THE SUMMER BONANZA BEGINS. podmothers sephy & wing enter the chat: spiralling on katsu waffles, stake, bao buns and BLTs. ✷see more ✷ www.youtube.com/@sephyandwing ✷ www.instagram.com/sephyandwing ✷ www.tiktok.com/@sephyandwingshop ✷ www.sephyandwing.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Straight in straight in Straight in we were literally just seconds ago on a different wavelength talking about tonight. We're going to Wagamama's event tonight Oh, and I was about to have like a full-on like debrief conversation about Well, like in anticipation of it and then I suddenly press record and now we're going Just we can do that now god, I'm excited for like mama Yeah we are. But Wagamama's just, we can do that now. God I'm excited for Wagamama's. Same, I'm fucking buzzing. Like this is in no way an advert, like in literally zero way. But oh my god.

No in zero way, I wish it was. But I just had a thought as well. The last Wagamama's event, because I was gonna say, we went to a Wagamama's event before, not to brag, but also really bragging. It was our second. Literally we had the best time, ate so much, like it was so good because they just really fed us a lot like the food was there was an abundance which is what we like that's what the sephi and wing are looking for we always say the mark of a good event it's kind of like a wedding food food food food plough people with food and drinks and drinks as well i can't drink though tonight because i'm driving

back oh damn yeah i'll drink it in your stead. Thank you. I'm hoping they have some quite good mocktails or things. They will I'm sure. But then I also had a thought that the last Wagamama's event that we went to, which I feel like then is why I didn't really speak about it that much, is because then I went to New York the next day and then also the day after tomorrow I'm going to Spain so I feel like whenever we get invited to a Wagamama's event it means I'm going off somewhere. Do you know what? I was thinking the exact same but slightly different because i was thinking

that every wagamama's event the two one that we've been to and one that we haven't even been to yet i've had a suitcase of both of them but i'm not gonna have a suitcase for this one i because i'm having a suitcase tomorrow okay because I had this morning I was like fuck I need to bring a suitcase and I was like no no no because we I'm seeing you at the a cast yeah because I basically when wind goes away I go to Brighton to dogs it was a thank you so much a day for us both it really is I'm for Ozzy as well he loves no idea what's about to him yeah I'm excited okay good me too. He loves it. He has no idea what's about to hit him. Yeah. I'm excited.

Okay, good. Me too. Continue the Brighton summer is a week, a week sort of extended edition. Just topping it up. Yeah, exactly. Just top it up. Also apparently it's gonna be really good weather.

It is. Yeah, it's really nice weather today. It's been shit weather. Not to talk about the weather, but it has been so shit. That's annoying. It's been quite hot. it's been tipping it down really?

yeah wait did you not have the rain yesterday? yesterday? or maybe the day before yes it was tipping it down on Sint Swithin's day apparently i did have rain i did experience that it was insane i was out on a walk in it

i was absolutely drenched oh shit it was quite fun i was like oh so we could outrun it like i saw it coming it was kind of like in a disaster movie i could see it coming behind me i was like auto we've got to run and we couldn't outrun it. oh god and did he run with you? oh we were sprinting we were going nuts. that's so cute. auto doogle. i know. um all right we haven't recorded in a while. might seem a bit rusty. elephant in the room so we've missed a couple have we? my eyes just rolled out of my skull and into fucking next year. i literally like, i feel like we have done literally the most in capitals. underline underline.

oh we have? no of course we have. there is no part of me that feels even a little bit elephant in the room tail between the legs. i feel honoured to be here. I don't because I feel like, look, we like to scream from the rooftops and try our hardest and here we are delivering once more. We are. Look, some things have gone on behind the scenes that are not so nice but there haven't been... there've been a couple days where just there's no... recording has just been literally, to be honest, out of the question. So yeah, I'm sorry. I think first of all, don't you dare apologise.

And second of all, I can't imagine there's many people on this planet who have finished our repertoire and are looking for more. Yeah, it's so true. I think feel some comfort in the reality that most people on this planet really haven't listened to any of us and if they have they've been listening listening listening and still at this point it is a bit hard to keep up. We are giving in abundance right now so you've probably got a couple of episodes spare and if you haven't you've had to wait a day for example.

I don't know I don't think anyone's angry I just also feel- No I don't think they're angry but I also- I hate promising something and then you know there's a day that we don't do or whatever. i just- there's too much of us right now i think if anything. that is also true. we're coming in- we're- taylor swift 1989, we're overexposed Kanye, i don't want to announce your single. it's like we are on the brink of- there's too much sephian wing to go around. are on the brink of there's too much Cephean wing to go around. I think that's a good thing. Yeah me too! Me too. Well so we're back again, we're adding even more to the pile today. Yeah so today's gonna be a big day and tomorrow morning let's try and get them done early.

Definitely. Because I need to pack etc. I'm also seeing my friend late morning before thingy so yeah early is best for me as well. What about you guys? What works for you? When's good? When you free? So I just got Wagamama's on the brain now. What are you hoping for? I need to really emphasise this is not paid in any way. No no it's not paid. Truly i am just excited. we can't help ourselves. cat sue waffles i saw in the email. you're kidding me. yeah cat sue waffles. wait where have you seen this? what? like question mark. wait where have you seen this menu? i don't know. but you.. no no i haven't seen a menu i saw just an email. cat sue waffles. but you saw something on the email that i hadn't seen which was that there's a loyalty. This really sounds like an advert. This actually is absurd. But it's not. It's just we're genuinely excited about it. Apparently there's going to be like a loyalty.

Ozzy don't leave me. Loyalty scheme. Um, at Waggers. And also I think the really big news, like this is actually insane to me that we're getting boosted to VIP level 3. I hope so. What is that? i hope so. this is why seeing these adverts makes- not adverts, seeing these fucking emails makes me laugh because it's like you just see we're boosting sephian wing to VIP level 3. it's like right where we should be.

i can only assume that's the lowest level of VIP. but look now we've spent six minutes talking about wagons it's like doesn't take much to get us talking. No no. Just the whispers of being a loyal to something. I think it means we might get like three gyozas or something I don't know what it means. Three bang bang cauliflower would be good. Yum. Yum yum yum. Like that's quite a classic or even edamame like it's like that those are some go to. I'll take edamame. Yeah same. By God will I take it. By the handful. I'll take it. yeah honestly. do you know what i would love? baobuns tonight. same i'd love a baobun. i fucking love them. the mushroom. the panko mushroom ones. we had a great baobun experience in the last waggers event where

they had like a make your own. thank you wagamama's just for existing. thank you waggers. okay so this is a baobun episode. i guess it must be. yeah. even though i've called this episode.. i can see in the garage band file it's called anxiety and overthinking. yeah no change that. it's not about that. it's not about that. yeah no. what are you wearing tonight then? well i was thinking.. so this dress that i wear to everything at the moment.. oh okay. it's just really comfortable and i really love it. But I don't know which we're talking about. The blue. Blue checkered Urban Outfitters dress.

It's a stunning dress. It's really stunning but I wear it backwards, which is just me putting my own little spin on it. A stunning dress and a stunning girl. You know, just like to put my own spin on a little outfit. But I tried it on in Urban with my sister and I was like I don't really like it and she was like I will contribute £10 towards that because it's so nice. very generously. I must say yet to receive that ten pounds in fact she's racking up quite the bill I must say with me. it's the thought that counts.

yeah exactly so I bought it. yes I'm thinking I might wear that dress because I'm just finding it really I just absolutely love it at the moment. go to. what about you? I have no idea I might do a dress as well just because I wasn't prepared for it to be so hot So it's kind of gone in I think it will be I feel like what's happening at the moment in England if any of you aren't aware Is it's like a kind of muggy day throughout and then it gets to like six seven eight p.m And it's like sunshine the clouds are finally decided to go and for those last few hours of the day like the evening It gets really quite hot and I feel like running around central London is gonna be hot.

Oh god, I haven't really thought of that. I'm gonna be tubing so I'm definitely gonna do a dress I think. That's the only thing that I'm feeling compelled to wear, like I go through such stages and I've just been sort of in the house for like four days straight in pajamas, not getting dressed kind of, greasy hair sort of vibes for a few days now. So I'm just kind of feeling the urge to like, get out. Wear that one dress that I like.

Yeah, good for you. Good for freaking you. I also was thinking earlier, I've been doing something just on the food angle. You're obviously not gonna like this, but I think you'll like it in, there's something about it that you'll, that will resonate. So it's meaty, but I'll like it basically. Yeah, I think you'll like it in... there's something about it that you'll like. So it's meaty but I'll like it basically. Yeah I think so. I think you'll like the

philosophy behind it. Yeah, a problem-free philosophy always. Yeah well I wouldn't call it problem-free. Okay. It's kind of the marker of someone who... yeah I'm not vegan anymore. It definitely is a big question mark on this of like, you know, you're not gonna love it. But I really am loving it. So basically, just, I don't know, you guys didn't ask, but since we're speaking about food, why don't we just go for it? Yeah, it's a food episode as well. I'm also, that's one of my favourite things to ask you is like, what are you eating at the moment? Like you just showed me a beautiful Biscoff cake that you made.

Oh, I've been baking, baking, baking. Which looks really good. You're such a- You're a star baker. I think I might be. You are, you're Baker of the Week. Cooking Mama. I- I'm- I'll take Cooking Mama but I'm not Star Baker. I don't enjoy- I love cooking, I don't love baking for some reason, I don't know why. I just find cooking so much more enjoyable. I think I might prefer baking. Yeah I don't know why though. Do you know what I mean? I think cooking is such a chore. find baking such a chore we're baking is just pure like God look at these like delicious also because I'm oh I don't know I just

always think the things that I bake no one else will really want because I'm so unsweet in my tastes just like a weird thing about me cake huh Biscoff cake very sweet but myiscoff cake? Very sweet. Biscoff cake, but my mum would- because I halved the amount of sugar in the recipe, I was like this is so sugary, I just don't want this amount of sugar. Yeah. Not because of a health reason, purely because I don't really like sugar that much. Really weird. It's a red flag for me, I know. And my mum was like, the sponge is just quite like, you need to add more sugar to this, like what the fuck, and I was like yeah but the thing is so sweet, like the icing. Interesting.

Okay so she could taste the difference. She was like yeah but the thing is so sweet like the icing okay so she could taste the different she was like you need so this time i would actually say that was it was quite a little bit more sugar sugarless sponge so but i do i get that desire when it comes to like there's biscoff icing there's it's there's literally sometimes it is really sickly yeah but anyway but i fucked it a bit you know. I love cooking and I'm really good at it. I'm a very confident cook. I can make something out of nothing. It's like, oh, we haven't done a shop in like two weeks. Fine, but here I am making a beautiful dinner.

I'm whipping something up. And also you could name most things to me and I could cook them. Do you know what I mean? Like I'm confident with being like, I can make a curry without thinking about it. I'm not using a recipe for really anything unless I'm making something like crazy and going in.

Yeah, unless I'm like really like cooking kind of Sefi's famous blah, blah, blah. Do you know what I mean? Unless it's something specific. Yeah, maybe we should do a cookbook. That would be fun. I would love to. Wait, why don't we do that?

Like a cooking, I reckon we could just whip up a little e-book. Be so good at whip up. We could whip it up. I could whip up the meringue. honestly i'd love to. wait let us know if you'd want that because that would actually be so funny. it would be like wings famous. of like our favourite foods. pitts pavlova. honestly pitts pavlova. if you're eating a pavlova you're not in the pitts. that's just a rule. you're not in the pitts. no. but so that, really love cooking, blah blah blah.

I feel like as well, if you've been vegan and then you're not vegan or just whatever, it's not necessarily true. But for me personally, I feel like I got comfortable with cooking meat and then also having the absence of meat, you become resourceful in different ways. You know what to do, blah blah blah. There was one thing that I just thought, I've never done that and I can't imagine myself ever doing that, and that was cooking a steak. Yikes, yeah.

I was like, why would I cook a steak? When would that ever happen? That's weird that you wouldn't though. Yeah, but I just thought- That's the thing that the meaty people, like my dad and my brother, they have like a steak once a week. That they're the meaties. Now I'm back in, I'm in the gang. Yeah. So it would always be the thing of like, we would never really have steak at home.

And then my boyfriend would occasionally start, he's kind of brought it, he's integrated it into the kind of rotation of the meals that we have. And he would cook the steak, amazingly I must say. And then the other night I was like, I'm gonna cook the steak. And then I cooked it. And then I cooked it again it and then I cooked it again and then I cooked it again. And now I'm really good at it and I love it and it's just like it feels really like oh my god I'm making myself a steak. That's crazy to me. And I like make some potatoes. Yeah I was gonna say what are you having with that? So like they would do like a steak and chips sort of

situation with like some veg. I don't love chips at home, weirdly. I get that so much. I actually get it so much. Do you know what I mean? In terms of like oven food, I want to have, I want it to be so greasy, MSG. But you could have an air fryer, you could do it in there.

I do, I do have an air fryer. I just don't love it as much. But I prefer, if I'm at home, I prefer like a potato. So I'm roasting potatoes, but I'll do them quite small. So it's like kind of cubed, like really seasoned, delicious, fluffy, but like crispy potatoes. You are a potato queen, I must say. You do, those are the things you,

if I think of your cooking, I'm thinking potatoes. I'm thinking roast potatoes. I just love a roast dinner. Yeah, see this is where we just get for so much. I just love a roast dinner. Yeah, see this is where I love like a kind of honey Roasted parsnips and carrots yum yum yum soft sweet crunch so Gravy Gonzales Guzzle guzzle

Delicious, but I'm just really like oh my god I've started cooking steak and now like I can cook steak obviously it's like it's a really easy thing to cook you don't do anything yeah but it just was a bit I don't know why I had like written that off as something that was outside of my realm because also is it isn't it like pretty easy sort of thing it literally is like two seconds literally put it in a pan. Also are you doing medium rare rare what are you? well done. i know these terms. i yeah i would always do a medium rare. nice. and if i was out i would order a medium rare. what's blue? that's like raw and bloody. i think that's how my family have it.

yeah it's very yeah blue. rank. it's space is still run it's running away from you. Yeah, blue. Rank. It's still running away from you. It's moving off the plate. I think they have rare. They definitely have rare, but I have heard the word blue in the rotation of them ordering it. Yeah, I get that.

Which does cause a lot of miles. That's them saying rare and like, don't be shy. I'd still eat rare, but I would always say medium rare just to make sure that like i feel like you know i think it does concern me if you eat it apparently blue why the fuck is it blue that does concern me but i would always think to myself before as well i would never identify someone who really enjoyed steak and i don't know whether like my taste buds have changed or i think i just almost i would picture steak and be like yeah like i think i almost every time I taste it, I'm like, this is the best thing I've ever tasted in my life. So what does it taste like?

It tastes good. I can't explain it. Could you actually try and explain it? Because I am intrigued by that. Okay, so there's some sort of smokiness. So a flavour that I would always identify as something that I love. You're barbeque-y. That's you.

Yeah, I love like a barbecue smoky, like Middle Eastern lamb. Like barbecue to me growing up was like there's lamb And it smells so good and it tastes so good and I loved remember those chips We had the other day with Freya that tasted like they cooked on a barbecue grill Yeah, but there's like a smokiness. Freya was like are these two burnt for you guys? It's like hell no Right, like they looked they were literally like charred and black. They were great. But when you tasted them they were really like, there's a smokiness, there's like a depth, there's like something underneath the flavour and that's what I like. Yeah, there's like a new marminess to it. That's what I'm liking about the steak. And

I'm also just liking my new identity as someone who cooks steak often and really weird. Yeah, I like that. Obviously I don't like it but I do for you. Yeah. Thanks. Thank you. I appreciate your support. Yeah, I will always support, to be honest, I I do for you. Thanks. Thank you. I appreciate your support. Yeah. I will always support, to be honest, I will always support anyone eating anything. Yeah. But that doesn't obviously, you know,

I'm not influenced, I'll put it that way. No, no, and don't be. And also it wouldn't land for you. It doesn't make sense. No, no, and you know it won't. No, no, I know it won't like big time. But I love that. But yeah, I don't know why.

I would just always, like growing up as well, I would always gravitate like big time. But yeah, I don't know why I would just always like growing up as well, I would always gravitate like I would order chicken over steak. Whereas now it's like, why would I not? I don't know, there was just something in my head. But I thought I didn't like brown sauce for ages, but I do. Like HP sauce. Brown sauce, yum.

Yeah, do you know what I mean? So sometimes it's these, I'm a morning person kind of narrative. These things happen. Brown sauce is a weird one because I feel like I've got into that later in life. I've had a resurgence with brown sauce, what is this episode, through you. Really? Well I used to love brown sauce, oh my god you used to love love love, and then you're just on the ketchup hype. Like ketchup is just, it's a given, you just have ketchup. And then you started being like oh yeah can we get some brown sauce for the table?

Maybe not for the table for you but I was very much thinking for the table. Yeah, with the breakfast sausages for example. Yeah yum. Yum! What the fuck it's so overlooked. It is actually underappreciated. It's so overlooked. Brown sauce. It's a bean sort of level of like, I don't know it's almost like it's an essential. It is and it's very specifically weirdly like old man British. I feel like an old man with my bum out, like builder's bum out at the cat. But I love it. But now that's what I would do. I would have like, really?

Like when I was in Portugal, I did like a toasted cheese sandwich one morning, vegan. And I was like, wait, is brown sauce a thing you'd have here? And my dad was like, of course it is, sort of thing. And it's like, oh god, I thought I was going to have to have it with ketchup. Yeah, they're worlds apart. Yeah, they are. They're so different. There's nothing, nothing's going to replace a brown sauce. Very specific. So great episode, I think, today. Yeah, great episode. Last thing just to add, I wasn't even hungover, but the other day, it was the morning after I'd had it, oh, it was the day after the UROs actually, famously. Oh great episode. Last thing just to add, I wasn't even hung over but the other day it was the morning after I'd had it, oh it was the day after the euros actually famously.

Oh my god. Sadly. And I had literally, so we ordered these like breakfast baguettes and when they, like to the house, when they came it was like the heaviest thing in my hand and I thought it was gonna be a good day. Like it actually was like, I'm holding a baby. Like this is weighing my arms. Like this is really impressive stuff. Yeah, it was like a long breakfast baguette. I don't like eggs in like sandwiches and stuff. Yeah, I get that. I'm quite funny about that.

And I don't like an egg in like ramen, for example. Sorry to say. I really do get that. Okay, cool. I feel, I feel seen, I feel heard. Yeah I just something about it. So I removed the egg but I had sausages, hash browns and bacon in this like white buttery baguette lump and then I also got- I was like that's how you got it. It was so good and then I also got brown sauce in there and it was so big. They had literally-

they knew the sephirin wing quantity over quality mantra. They were coming in, they were loading it. It was so full that I finished the baguette and then at the end where I'd been holding it in it's like wrapping. There was like four extra sausages that had like been at the bottom where it had literally, it was just so jam packed full. It was just oozing sausages. Yeah it was just so fucking good. Wow did you say the hashbrowns in there? Yeah. Because I love that when they put hash browns in

like a burger or a sandwich. Like, I absolutely love that. Oh God, I'm so excited for this event tonight. I don't know where they do this. Maybe it's Bagel Man in Brighton. You can get like a bagel that has like hash browns in it. And it's like, that sounds so wrong, but it's so good. I had a bagel that has hash browns in it. And it's like, that sounds so wrong, but it's so good. I had a bagel this morning.

Did you? Yeah, when I messaged you, I actually voice-noded you, being like, could you give me an extra 15 minutes just so I don't have to eat like an actual pig in a trough? Which I was about to do, so I'm so glad you said. I know, yeah, I'm glad I said as well. I was about to get the trough out. Yeah, I was sad that then you were going to,

but anyway, well, more so, not sad that you were gonna eat like a pig in a trough, I'm glad I said as well. I was about to get the trough out. Yeah, I was sad that then you were going to but anyway, well more so not sad that you were gonna eat like a pig in a trough. I would love that. But I was sad because specifically you said you were wanting to have beans on toast But then you're like I don't have time because we're going to record a day. Yeah, I was like, okay I'm about to do some beans and I was like no fuck it. I've just got to have like Marmite on toast I've just got to be quick. I just hate that. Yeah, no and I was like no no no. And then you said 15 minutes and I was like let's heat up these beans. Yeah, take your time. But go on, what was in your bagel? So, I-

Because this is such a- I actually am insecure about this episode. I'm like, this is dog shit, but let's keep going. Oh, I like it. This is the kind of thing I would like. It's the same, but then I just get concerned that people are like, what the fuck? They just spoke for 20 minutes about food. Bagels and bao buns. But also, is that not what- I think it's important for young women to talk freely about food.

I couldn't agree more, actually. Like, in every way. If there's anything I feel confident about, it's my ability to talk freely about food. And I will share that with the global world. And also, if there was anything I ever needed as a teenager that- There we go, then. ... just kind of starved herself intermittently, was two teenage- two, not teenage, two women talking about food. Love it.

To me the crux of food is, do you like that? Good, eat it. That's it. That's the crux. Even if you don't eat it, stop it now. I was really in a big BLT phase a couple of months ago. You fucking were in a BLT phase. Oh yeah, because I had one on the train with you. So much so you were buying them from bloody WH Smiths which I think is a red flag. It's desperate mesh. Yeah, I know it was but I couldn't help it. I needed them. I got into a phase and then surprise, surprise, I put myself off. This is what I do. I go all in

on something and then I'm like this is so disgusting I never want to see it again. And then six months later I'm like you my old friend my BLT friend. So this morning I went and I bought bagels and bacon and I made a beautiful BLT right before we spoke and I just wanted to share that with the crowd. I'm so glad you did. Three cheers for the BLT yeah. Because that really was a phase. It was a phase. It was just, it was really serving me on trains. On what? On trains. Trains. When it's like I need to, I was also gonna say this to you, so are you, what level of

empty stomach are you going on tonight? Because I kind of want to have a bit of something. I was gonna ask you the exact same question. I wasn't gonna do it on the part but I'm so glad you have brought this up. I think I'm gonna go on medium empty stomach. Well last time I came away so disgustingly full and I thought maybe I shouldn't have eaten that much before. But also I hate the thought of-

Don't have dinner, definitely don't. No I won't have dinner. I'm gonna have a late lunch. I'm gonna have a late lunch. I'm gonna eat basically as soon as we finish this. Okay. And then- And then, because I don't want to go in ravenous because otherwise it will be hell if they're not bringing out the food straight away and I'll blow

my load. I'm gonna go medium empty medium rare. Okay nice. Medium rare. I think that's quite a good option. Yeah and then also it's like if we leave hungry we can go to McDonald's on the way out. Exactly but I'm not planning on leaving. I'm not planning on leaving. No I'm not either. I'll jump the bar myself I'll get in that kitchen myself. Let me pick up a store. go to McDonald's on the way out. Exactly, but I'm not planning on leaving. I'm not planning on leaving until I'm extremely full. I'll jump the bar myself, I'll get in that kitchen myself, start whipping up a storm. Let me pick up a storm. I've got a steak. You don't need steak in it.

A steak and a BLT. God, I'm excited now. Alright, thanks guys. Hope everyone's enjoying their food recently. Yeah, I really hope. And if you are in like a tricky position with your food, I would recommend listening to this whilst you eat or something. I'd love that. I just feel like... I'd love nothing more. Truly. Like, biggest honour of my would recommend listening to this whilst you eat or something. I'd love that.

I'd love nothing more. Truly, like biggest honour of my life to be with you whilst you eat. It really is, it really, really is. Make sure you're eating guys. Yeah, take care of yourselves. In a very genuine way. Yeah, being very serious now.

Yeah. All right. Summer, summer, summer. Summer, summer, summer, summer, summer.