Goes Without Saying - best and worst of festive recommendations: podmas #7

Episode Date: December 7, 2024

merry podmas! festive podmothers sephy & wing enter a Big Sleigh: carolling on Michael Jackson, the sex scenes in Love Actually, being poor but famous, the Grinch, The Bleachers, and (goes without saying) Matilda Djerf. ✷see more ✷ www.youtube.com/@sephyandwing ✷ www.instagram.com/sephyandwing ✷ www.tiktok.com/@sephyandwingshop ✷ www.sephyandwing.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Visit BetterHelp.com today to get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelp, H-E-L-P, dot com. Mary Podmas. Mary Podmas let the jingle bells ring out. Let the jingle bells ring. I kind of thought it might be nice to frame this. Basically, I kind of thought, okay, if there was a kid that I was responsible for

all of a sudden this Christmas, what would be on the list? On the list of the films that I'm going to get them into, the nights that we're going to have, the music I'm going to have playing while we're eating dinner, et cetera. What sort of vibe am I creating? And almost what are the first things that come to my mind? What are the tops of my list? The list the top of my Christmas list yeah my go tos first of all playlist is I think I go for the classics I don't want any of the new nonsense I want like wham I want like you wizard love wham do you know

who I specifically love I specifically love Andrew from Wham. Well, I keep seeing George Michael everywhere and every time I see it I feel like it's morphing into you when I look at Wham now. Why? I'm not George Michael. No, you're not George Michael, but you love Wham and you always tell me to watch The Dark. So here's the thing. I didn't know anything about Wham until a year ago. Watched that documentary, watched it twice in one day, obsessed. I'm absolutely obsessed. I love watching the documentary twice in one day, obsessed. I'm absolutely obsessed. I love watching your documentary twice in one day. I do that, I've done that with a few things now. Fire Festival, I watched that twice in one day as well. Michael Jackson, that Leaving Neverland one, we didn't watch those twice in one day but I remember that took out a couple of weeks for us. The impact.

That impact, I mean we're still reeling from the impact of that years later. Wade Robson and Jimmy Save Chuck, I love you. That was like a big, that was I remember, that probably affected my dissertation. I remember us coming home early from stuff and being like, we just have to watch it. And just like think about it. And talk about it. And like watch all the behind the scenes

of like Michael Jackson's maid spill some beans. Bloody hell, I mean honestly. It was crazy. Yeah, okay so then yeah, so you got in got that kind of that was a Wham moment. Okay so you love Wham. Christmas. Who doesn't? I don't even love Wham. I love Andrew from Wham. You love Andrew from Wham yeah. Who is who the hell is that? No one speaks about him. No one speaks about him. This is why you have to do it. I'll tell you now guys. Google him. First of all watch the documentary. You'll fall in love. Yeah.

Good vibes. Okay, so you're putting some wam on. Yeah, and I'm putting on things like I wish it could be Christmas every day. That is really, god, that one gets, that's the thing of like, oh my god, I'm six years old, I'm gonna be sick with excitement. Yeah. It's crazy. No, literally, that's the sort of era of songs I want.

I don't want Santa, tell me. I don't want anything like that. Santa tells me is not my favourite, but I do love the Bleacher's new song. It has a really nostalgic feel. Oh yeah I've heard of this. Yeah it has a really nostalgic feel and it's also like, it just speaks to the kind of bleakness of like, oh something's gone wrong in a relationship and now it's like, it's just a very specific feeling.

You know when it comes to the end of the year and everyone's kind of, you know, we won't get into the reflecting that's been happening. But there have been reflections across the board. And yeah, I just really, I just love that song so much. Okay, I need to listen to it. And I haven't even, you do, but I haven't even gotten to my thing of of which I will do because also I saw in my Raptor I was in the 0.01% of espresso listeners. That's that me. God. Unhinged. Crazy. I could not listen to that in my own headphones. Like that is a song I hear in supermarkets and when it's forced

upon me in a taxi. I was having this conversation with someone and I was like, I think I got a head start basically on everyone I was listening to it because I listened to it on the day it was released. So I think I got in a load of listens then in advance. This wasn't intentional by the way, I wasn't trying to be a psychopath, I just did it by accident, just comes so naturally to me. And I've listened to it so much I guess that I don't know, I kind of feel like she needs to come and thank me personally I think she might have to but yeah, that's what I do I listen to a song and nothing else or like not even nothing else

I listen to a song I do the twice in twice documentary in one day thing I listen to a song and I think that just wasn't enough I need to listen right now and again and again and again and again and again on loop Basically and I haven't done that with the Bleacher song yet and I know I will because I've almost been getting it in passing listen to it once or twice and I haven't had my moment where it's like oh fuck that's really on repeat and it's a sad one so I need to be careful and not overdose I do feel like I've had a happier year because I've listened to Espresso a thousand times. To be honest that is to put you in a good mood.

And I will say, I do like that song. I do actually like that song. Don't sound like it. You're not in the top 0.01%. No, I don't think I couldn't have that coming up. Like I couldn't. I hear it so much. I'm so overexposed to that song.

I could not sit through and listen to that on my own headphones. It still hits for me perfectly. I'm not done with it yet. Oh my God, I'm so done. You know you listen to something and then you get sick. I'm not sick yet. Yeah, I know it so well. I'm still all with it yet. Oh my god I'm so done. You know you listen to something and then you get sick? I'm not sick yet. Yeah I know it so well. I'm still all that's that means but yeah I'll take two of those. I'll take five in the space of half an hour if that's okay. I'm still going. Yeah I get it. What else is going on your playlist then? Okay so yeah bleachers and

then I agree with you the classics and And also if there's any dead time, like if I'm just sat on my laptop working away on something but I don't wanna listen to words, I'll go on Spotify and get like Christmas jazz or like Christmas festive cafe or something. Totally. And it's just like perfect. Do you know what I do?

This isn't festive. Ghibli cafe. Exactly,'t festive. Ghibli cafe. Exactly. Yeah Studio Ghibli cafe. The ambience. I'm just like oh, I'm in Hogsmeade. That's all. Totally. That's gonna be where I'm at. Terrible place to be. Do you know what controversial opinion I have though? I don't know if it's controversial, but this is something I really dislike that is synonymous with Christmas Really really really do first of all don't like Mariah Carey's voice second of all do not like All I Want for Christmas Is You I really hate that song though when I hear that that's just like an instant skip it reminds me of the midnight beast I think I like the midnight beast more than I like that song

if anyone needed to be reminded of the Midnight Beast. The Midnight Beast. Just bring that back. What the hell? Just felt that slipping from your brain Harry so I thought I might bring that back for you. The Midnight Beast. Did they have a movie? They had a TV show.

Yeah. I know that much. And they did an All I Want for Christmas is, but what was theirs about fucking something I think. I want a Christmas is, but what was theirs about fucking something, I think. I want a Christmas fuck buddy or something. I think it was, that was the general gist. Can I give you that midnight beast? Of course you can, yeah, take it away.

I'm just looking at them now. Please do. Yes, oh my God, these guys. Stefan. Stefan, yeah. Ash and Drew, obviously. Drew, I think they've reached out a little bit. awake. Hey, Drew is definitely the one who's like face sticks in my mind I mean really they kind of scared me a bit. I think

Why don't you need to worry about them anymore? Cuz I think they're out of here Yeah, they're not I think I think you're safe from the midnight beast now I think like that's what like emo II aesthetic of Drew. He's a bit skater I think not in sort of like emo-y aesthetic. Of Drew. He's a bit skater, I think. Not in the way that I like, I'll say that. Well, I think he's a bit old for you as well anyway. I really, really don't like it. I'm really not interested in the Midnight Beast.

He's a bit old for you. What's Andy Samberg's thing called then? Because that is- The Lonely Island. The Lonely Island? Lonely Island. I think I get them confused. Well, The Midnight Beast would definitely be a follow up too. Yeah, yeah. And now they do, what's it called?

Please Don't Destroy or something. That's another trio. What the hell is that? They're like SNL adjacent and it's these three guys. Oh my god, did they do the thing with Taylor Swift? They did do the thing with Taylor Swift, yeah. Someone showed me that the other day. Many other weird things. She looks amazing in that video, bloody hell. Who's the other guy that's in it? Oh, Pete Davidson. Oh, yeah, Pete Davidson's in that video, but he's not in the trio. No, no, no, yeah. He just joins in. He's just like singing about them. Yeah. He apparently, I haven't looked into this guys,

apparently people on SNL, I know no no one cares people on snl get paid three thousand dollars per episode oh my gosh that's an outrage and a scandal if i've ever heard it apparently that apparently came from pete davidson i'm really just i'm really staring the pot here i'm gonna get as if anyone cares but like i don't know if that's true and i don't know if it's even true that he said that but i think it might be is Is that a lot or nothing? I can't tell. I think it's absolutely niche considering it's not on all the time and they're supposed to be it's the thing that me and Safie have been talking about about like we saw oh maybe I shouldn't say who we saw yesterday someone too famous to work in.

Yeah. Who we've seen before he's like a a UK TV, ex-TV guy. Should we just name him Shane? Yeah, Keith Lemon. Keith Lemon. I have really positive feelings about the Midnight Beasts and I feel like I've slated them so I don't necessarily feel a connection to Keith Lemon so he can be next under my sephirn curse. If anything, all I know is that as a kid, as a young teenager, watching whatever his

show was called, what was it called? Oh fuck. That Keith Lemon show with Holly Willoughby and Femme Potter on it. It was called what was it called that Keith Lemon show with Holly Willoughby and Femme Couture on it it was called like sloppy seconds it was called like get your tits out it was like Keith Lemons fat fanny or something genuinely it was called Keith Lemon is a misogynist Keith Lemon TV show what's it called I know you're screaming at us if you- fuck me! oh my god do you know what it's called? celebrity juice celebrity juice keith blemer's fa fa fa

fuck love that show keith blemer's fa fa but that was the essence of it that was the essence of it yeah that's probably a direct quote from him like beautiful women getting like horrible comments said to them yeah we're just like really over sexualised by this like grim guy but like i don't know what it was actually like but i remember

watching that and feeling incredibly objectified even just like as a viewer the impacts of that we'll be feeling for the next 100 years and just like the boys at school would then quote shit from that at school it was just horrible and who were we talking about? About being too famous to work in Tesco, but... This is an ad by BetterHelp. What's your perfect night? Is it curling up on the couch for a cozy, peaceful night in? Therapy can feel a bit like that. Your comfort place where you replenish your energy.

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That's Ryland, yes. But we were saying before why we brought this up is because apparently the SNL cast get paid three grand per episode. Which in my opinion isn't enough. If these people become public figures... Also how much are you paying the celebrity? They need to be taken care of. Right, exactly it's not really it might not even be true so no need to get upset everybody. But go on the Keith Lemmon stuff. The Keith Lemmon stuff basically you said yesterday when we were walking down the street

he can't work in Nationwide. Yeah no okay right so let's bring a bit of context to that because I don't think he's applying for jobs in Nationwide. I wasn't going to go there but yeah. The context is so on Louis Theroux's podcast Rland did an episode on Louis Threws podcast where he basically, Ryland is a fucking guy from he was on X Factor, like he's just a great guy. He now hosts this moment. He is like a UK TV guy. He's just great vibes really. Listen to that episode on Louis Threws and you'll get the vibes. And he basically was

like, I have always wanted to be famous. That's like the thing he's always wanted to be. And he's very like open and like shameless about it. Growing up, just like a kid that was watching TV all the time, it was just like, I want to be on TV. He had applied to go on Big Brother. And I think he got through or whatever. And someone who had been on Big Brother before gave him the advice to say, saying, do not go on Big Big Brother because you will be so famous that you cannot have a normal job but you will earn no money and the worst thing you can be is famous and poor because you can't work in yeah nationwide you can't work in Gregg's people coming up to you but you have you have no money so you have to do it terrible situation so he waited and went on X Factor got

through all the stuff became famous then went on Celebrity Big Brother, iconic. Since made a big life for himself. And now he's like, yeah, he's a star. He's king of branding, in my opinion. And he's just genuinely intriguing and like, good vibes, has had a real interesting life and has got shit to say, I think. He's apparently very nice. He seems really nice, I think.

I know someone who worked with him and he came off very well and was very like... That's I think the general consensus of what I hear about him. Yeah. The nice, quite grounded guy. Someone actually deserving of fame and money. And like... where'd you find it? Yeah, feels like he's got, he's original, which a lot of people I think do not feel original, but then we walked past Keith Lemmon the other day and he is the epitome. He was eating a sausage roll walking down the street and I was saying is he someone and we've seen him at another event as well at the borderland screening he was there and he seemed perfectly nice like normal guy but I remember how much I hated that show and I felt

like it was a misogynistic show even as like a 14 year old girl watching that. Yeah. And now he's not on tv and stuff and I know him walking down the street eating the sausage roll He'll be getting looks at like, oh that's that guy from TV. There's Keith Lemmon, blah blah blah I wonder if he's being stopped at all. I wonder if anyone said like I used to love your show It's just one of those people everyone knows because he was everywhere for like five years But I don't I wonder if he's getting work still like all of that sort of thing And I yeah, we were sort of saying I think maybe that's one of those tricky positions to be in. 100%. It's a very tricky position to be in. And common I think actually. I think it's really common and I think it's really like a huge structural and class issue when it's like big companies sitting on tons and tons and tons of money exploiting essentially the working class.

Making tons of money from them but not paying them efficiently for example SNL, it's really fucked up if it's true. Okay Christmas songs, Christmas films please. I have an absolute number one. Okay. And it comes in a pair. But my number one film, Christmas film, Home Alone 2, Lost in New York. Lost in New York City. My number two film is Home Alone 1. Home Alone 1. Just Lost in the House. Lovely. Great choices,

yeah. Those I think are absolute ultimate ones. I think of you as we talk about Macaulay Culkin often actually. In a low level sense. I have a Kevin McCallister kind of energy to you. Yeah we often talk about the kickback and relax like you know you're home alone and you're just eating snacks all day. Yeah. We don't get into anything deeper than that. Despite leaving Neverland being so impactful to us and all of these things we delve in deep as you know.

But in Avenue we haven't really gone down as Macaulay Culkin I don't think there's much to be said. What the Macaulay Culkin, Michael Jackson stuff? Well, yeah, and just like John Star. Well that also impacts Kieran. Of course. They both used to stay. King. No, literally king. Also just the Kieran Culkin thing just really quickly Me and Wing made vision boards. Vision boards. Wish lists and he was at the top. boards, vision boards. Wish lists and he was at the top. Or for the universe. We made vision boards like about a year ago maybe? Maybe over a year and a half ago? I think it might have been earlier this year. Okay earlier this year we made some vision boards and on them so we were just putting like random shit on there just like stuff and in the newspaper

that magazine that I was cutting stuff out of, I saw a picture of Kieran Culkin. Obviously he goes right on there. Straight on the vision board. And I was like, perfect, yeah, I'm going to manifest Kieran Culkin. Now we're going to a fucking thing with Kieran Culkin. He's got a film coming out. With Jesse Eisenberg. Yeah, with Facebook. Who wasn't on the vision board. That's to be safe.

It was just, you know, an added bonus. Yeah, it's just a happy accident. Okay, well, feedback on that. Yeah. Yeah, Home Alone is a classic. You know why I love that? The music in Home Alone is so good. And it's a Chris Columbus smash hit. That's why Philosopher's Stone hits so hard. And Chamber of Secrets. It's the same energy, same directorial, beautiful, so sweet to the child, so loving. Such a beautiful loving eye as they say. Yeah. You know? The holiday. The holiday. What are you thoughts on Love Actually? I really like Love Actually. I really really... the other day I ranked all of the plot lines in Love Actually, just in a casual conversation. Let's rank these. And I realised that I really, really, really have a distaste for the one which has

like Martin Freeman and Stacey from Gavin and Stacey where they're just having sex and it's just really horrible. Or they're not having sex, they're pretending to have sex. I really just feel like cut that out of the film when yeah Yeah, yeah, it's so sloppy and just horror and just like that adds nothing It definitely feels like it's like oh you're trying to do something that like you think that's really edgy You just don't have to do that. You've really got something here You don't have to almost like see someone's boobs jingling about. You don't. And also the plot line of that could be really intriguing.

These two people that like have to like have like intimate scenes but like maybe there's like a connection between them. The way they did that is such a waste of that dynamic. It is. I agree with you actually. Never really thought about it. No, I only thought about it the other day. As we know, love so much.

I love a festive, I love a festive anything. I love an excuse for something to be a bit nice. Yeah. And kind of loving and sweet. I... Well, what's your... So, I feel like you're quite an elf girl. Yeah, I like elf.

I also really like this... I really like this random ridiculous film that has Miley Cyrus in it. So Seth Rogen smash hit as everything he does is. Oh yeah, what is it? It's Seth Rogen and Joseph Gordon-Levitt, King, and Anthony Mackie in this very stonery film called, I think it's called The Night Before. God, I literally never heard of this. I think I'm the only person on the planet who's ever watched it.

Well, you went through a weird Seth Rogen phase where you made us watch this other really terrible film with him. I love Seth Rogen so much. Yeah, I remember that was like one of those depressing crashes as well. Like you were sad about it. I remember we were laying on the beach and I was like, guys, what would you do if Seth Rogen just came over? And he's like, why have I just said that? Like, what? Oh, did you know what's sad about that one? That one's just funny actually. The thing that made you

like that reignited that crash was the Lion King, him as Pumbaa. God I forgot about that. I fucking love him so much. That's a really like, yeah, I just really love him a lot. Yeah, and it's so fair enough. It is fair enough, he's lovable. I guess those GQ pictures he did, they were great. Whoa. He's not for me personally. In another life, there's something that I think

this might be one of those rare cases, and I might have got this wrong, where the wife, the wife is older than the husband. I don't know if that's true, but they might be even just similar ages. Which I'll take. Could even similar is great. The bar is in hell, but I'll take it.

Yeah. Yeah, it's a really weird film. And then Miley Cyrus shows up, Mindy Kaling's in it. Who else is in it? Oh, I'm loving the cast. Yeah, no, it's a really good cast. Janice from Mean Girls. I can't remember her name on screen, sorry.

Oh yeah, she's in everything, but always credited as Janice from Mean Girls. Yeah, she's a really good cast. Janice from Mean Girls. I can't remember her name on social media. Oh yeah. She's in everything but always credited as Janice from Mean Girls. Yeah she's in it as well. What is her name? It's a funny weird little film. I'm looking forward to watching that. I like The Grinch a lot. That's like a childhood classic. I love that so much. I also saw Matilda Jerr, if I hate to bring her up, but since we've, since you know just a few days have passed we haven't spoken about her, we haven't updated you guys, but have you seen? She's collaborated with Rode, Hayley Bieber's brand, if you've seen this Sefi. I have seen like a quite awkward FaceTime. Oh I didn't watch that. Fuck. But in the marketing, I'll look into it and get back to you on that, but the thing that. Fuck. But in the marketing, I'll look into it and get back

to you on that, but the thing that I did love was in the marketing they put her in this like monochrome like she was in all red and she had her hair like Cindy Lou Who. That's cool. And she obviously looked gorgeous Matilda as always. And I thought it was fun to do a festive lip balm. Similarly Cindy Lou Who has reminded me Sabrina Carpenter has a great Christmas, I don't think it's technically an album, I think she's just called it an EP, Fruitcake. It's got some bangers on there and she has one Cindy Lou Who. I've heard that.

Which is beautiful. Yeah. Okay. That's your Christmas watch list and listen list. Yeah. That'll be nice. Let us know your faves. Okay cool. Well, what'll be nice. Let us know your faves. Okay cool, well what is it? Merry Podmas. Merry Podmas will not stick in my head because I just want to say I assume the worst. And assume that you should definitely assume the worst. Merry Podmas. Merry Podmas and a happy new year. This is an ad by BetterHelp. What's your perfect night? Is it curling up on the couch for a cozy, peaceful night in?

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