Goes Without Saying - body-image, food, & the sanctity of the Meal Deal: podmas #3

Episode Date: December 3, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:26 Chocolonely advent calendar, one of the days, you only know this because your brother had it one year. He has it, he does an advent calendar for November and December. Which is definitely a way of living that I can get behind. Definitely iconic. It's absolutely iconic. And one day of the Tony's advent calendar is empty. You don't get a chocolate for... Did you say it's for World Hunger? It's like, you know how the Tony's chocolate bar is all distributed? It's like about like wealth distribution. Like some chunks are really big, some chunks are really small. They've got some good morals, Tonys.
Starting point is 00:01:59 They do. They really stand by their work. I think it's day 14 or something like that if my memory serves me correct. Because my brother was annoyed about it in November and December One day you open your little thing and it's like no chocolate for you. That's me today. No chocolate for me Yeah, but that's fine. We've got other things exactly for example. Can I have a nice time everyone? Thank you so much for the love on podmas. I genuinely like. And you're in your not to bring it up again. Oh Jesus. You're in a Matilda Jeff dressing gown. I am and I've never felt better. It looks great. You got a different colour to me as well which looks
Starting point is 00:02:33 really nice. I did. Yeah I don't know which one. I think this might be the summer one and then yours the winter one maybe? Mine's summer berries. Is that what it's called? Summer berry. No, summer fruit. It's called mine. Summer fruit. Well, mine's looking a lot like summer fruit as well. But Sefi's is the white kind of bluey one and mine's like the yellowy. Oh guys, I'm so sorry. What were going on and on about this? Jesus. Anyway, yes, dressing gown. It's so true. I hated that I bought it up again. Honestly, no, no, never. It's so true, I hated that I bought it up again, but sometimes it's just not up, not to. No, no, never.
Starting point is 00:03:05 That's just the way that things go. We love to drop a topic in and be like, let's not get into this, but, and then spend an hour talking about it. And then spend the whole episode. But this is gonna be really nice. Also, our merch. Yes, merch.
Starting point is 00:03:15 That's something we should say. We've been saying it, yep, everybody's been happy about it. I was really, last night I had a real moment of just like, there were so many messages, not to gloat, but it really felt like, oh my god, so many girls love us. And it just felt really nice.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I haven't seen a single one. We got loads of messages, that last episode on Spotify as well. Go on the Spotify thing, cause there was loads of messages on that. Okay, yeah, I'll do that. Maybe don't do it now, cause we're mid conversation. Yeah, sorry, I was about to just do it now.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Saw your eyes wander off and I was like, uh, stay on me, please. Eyes where I can see them. Stay in the chat. Thanks so much. Stay here. Stay here. Stay locked in. I check that.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I do check that every day. I haven't checked it for yesterday's episode. I know. You do check it, yeah. But yeah, there were loads in there. Everyone was really excited, which is really nice. Yeah. Just made me feel like, oh, God, it nice to be, um, just feel so seen sometimes.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I truly love Pondmouth. Maybe too seen. Like, it's so good. It's so nice. And this is going to be a really nice festive, what's on the menu today? Lots of just like nice food chat, which I feel like is- Also, I, when we did, so, did anyone remember this? There was an episode we did a few months ago that was just called Bow Bands. Bow Bands. Went down a hit. I was literally like, this is the worst thing we've ever done. Yeah, went down well with us. Went down an absolute storm, and it was so fun to record,
Starting point is 00:04:32 and people absolutely loved it. I think we could even, here we go, something we're never gonna do, but I think we could even do this kind of every season, like, not podcast season, I mean, like, kind of seasonally basically every four like every quarter so now we find ourselves in Q4 let's discuss the Q4 menu. Yeah okay so what's on the menu just nice and also I thought
Starting point is 00:04:58 compliments to the chef it's just kind of our brand really isn't it? It really is well it's something that I'm having a lot at the moment, so much so, my housemate had someone staying over, just like his mate from home stayed over, and I was cooking it in the morning, and he was like, God, that smells, I think he said, that smells banging. Ooh, what was that? And I was like, it's tofu, and he was like,
Starting point is 00:05:17 oh my God, I didn't know tofu, he was impressed that it was tofu. In the morning? What are you doing, scramble? What I'm doing at the moment is I'm doing a bagel and then I like fry some like slices of tofu with like sort of like paprika and like salt and pepper and shit on them.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Get them really like crispy and yummy. Put that in like sort of like a buttered bagel with like ketchup and shit. But I had it with like Avvo and all this stuff like tomatoes and stuff. Yeah, you were showing off. Well well he's got a friend over it's like I'm like did you know yeah and I'm kind of loving like I don't really know what that's trying to be maybe like bacon or something but it's like some sort of meat in the bagel yeah yeah I'm liking just sort
Starting point is 00:06:00 of like a really tofu-y bagel but I said tofu last time that I'm obsessed with tofu. I Am really oh god. I've been having the thing where I by the way, I'm not on my period not even close I keep having the thing. Yeah me too. I was a couple of days ago And I keep having the thing that we always talk about of like when you're absolutely ravenous basically and everything tastes amazing And like you just actually can't get enough Best phase ever It's a great phase to be in so I've been having like the other night We were out and I sent someone was going to the shop and it was like do you want anything?
Starting point is 00:06:34 And I was like I actually this is okay. So don't judge me before I get into this It's not I understand how this will be received poorly. Okay, I understand how this will be received poorly, okay? I understand. But basically, I think there's something sacred about a meal deal. If you're not from the UK or like, you don't know what this is. Honestly, so true.
Starting point is 00:06:53 There's something really, you can tell a lot about a person and also it's interesting, you know, it's just a good meal deal. Yes. That can really make or break a day. Yeah. Before I tell you what I requested, which by the way, A good meal deal that can really make or break a day. Before I tell you what I requested, which by the way, it wasn't necessarily a request for food, it was more of like, does anyone need any fags or alcohol?
Starting point is 00:07:12 And I was like, meal deal. Meal deal. Meal deal, two words, meal deal. One word, meal deal. Meal deal. Meal deal, one word meal deal. I will say, I know I say this all all the time but I am the kind of person where I get a bit it's a little bit much with food like I'll go all in on
Starting point is 00:07:31 something for like literally two months and then put myself off and I don't want to see it for another few months do you know I mean and I really you know when you get obsessed and I do it with music as well when you get obsessed I physically can't get enough of this thing like more more more more more repeat repeat repeat like constant constant constant to the point where I can't look at it. It's all I do. I never will ever listen to anything outside of my one song that I'm listening to at that moment. In moderation. No yeah it's like moderation who? Like I need it all day every day so anyway so what I'm trying to say by that is don't judge me for my my impermanent food decisions
Starting point is 00:08:09 Shouldn't be permanent reflections on who I am as a person, you know, yeah I might like something rogue for six weeks and then I'll be over it. So don't judge me. Yeah totally. I just requested a ham sandwich. I think that's quite you. I know on white bread. I'm quite shameless What does that mean? As in like, you know, some people are like, oh you can't have that, like white bread No mayo. Oh, it's just base. There's nothing in it. Wait no, I think that's the most standard thing you could get
Starting point is 00:08:32 Well, that's where you're wrong. That's where you're wrong. I think. I mean, it's obviously not like people want like for example You're also quite BLT. I would do a BLT or I would do like New York like pastrami like New York deli That's like those BLT and New Yorker are like my two functional sandwiches. But like a ham sandwich, that's very like. But ham sandwich is like I'm six years old, I'm sitting in front of the TV, my nan's just come in and dropped a ham sandwich
Starting point is 00:08:55 on a plate in front of me with some crisps. Yeah. And I've never ever been happier. And that's always what I'm trying to get back to really, just feeling like I'm in front of the TV with my nan next to me. So I guess in that moment I just wanted that ham sandwich feeling and there's nothing like it and I was like oh
Starting point is 00:09:09 It's gonna stick to the roof of your mouth and like so dry and I was like well That's kind of the point like just plain ham sandwich. Sometimes you just got to go back to absolute basics You know, I don't really know what it tastes like obviously Yeah, I can imagine I can see how from a vegan perspective you would think that's the standard but it's almost... I saw someone the other day eating a ham sandwich and I thought ham sandwich. Oh it's so good. I literally just thought don't do that actually do you?
Starting point is 00:09:35 But then I thought I guess it's standard. It kind of is standard in like the 80s. They could choose sandwich. It's like standard but who would do that? Right that's what I'm saying but who would do that? Who would choose such a life, a half-life, a cursed life? Who would do that? It's so nothing, I guess. It's so nothing. And sometimes you need that. So I had a couple of sandwiches that day, which I liked. And I do also think pork in particular has a special place in my heart,
Starting point is 00:10:02 because for a long chunk of my growing up years, I was in a household that was extremely religious and being allowed or not allowed certain things was kind of a thing that was used against me. I wasn't even, my favorite sandwich growing up, I need to be careful because if my grandparents ever heard this, they'd be really upset that I used to love bacon sandwiches.
Starting point is 00:10:22 That was my favorite food growing up, a bacon sandwich, like white bread, really buttery. I mean they would be shocked if they hear what you eat now. They'd be absolutely devastated. But I think they'd let me off, they'd get over it. I think that's kind of part of my charm, is I've just kind of been whitewashed and run riot,
Starting point is 00:10:39 just like, aw. They kind of always knew that by my dad getting with this kind of white Irish woman It was like oh, he's getting with the horse. So the kids gonna be fucked up and now I'm like the favorite Anyway pork pork pork love bacon sandwiches growing up buttery white bread with bacon sandwich. Whoa There's nothing like it, but then I wasn't even allowed bacon in the house at this during this time I wasn't even allowed it like in the fridge if I kept it to myself or wherever which I was really upset about. So now I like to really honour, you know, like to really make the most of it. That's all. So that's just what I've been eating recently.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Yeah I think that sounds quite revolting to me. Well also can we touch on, again this is really going to be brief but we love to speak about food at all times but especially I would say now if anyone's feeling particularly weird about what they're eating or like the awareness of eating in your body and all of this stuff put this on in the background might actually put you off your food hearing me talk about bacon and ham sandwiches and stuff. No people like that sort of thing. I hope so. I think they do. Is getting anyone in the mood or getting hungry. Speaking of meal deals though I feel like that is something that I'm quite a red flag in. Because I am... Your whole food I think is, your whole appetite I think is a red flag. For sure.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Mostly yeah. No like it's definitely, I wouldn't like to hang out with me. I'll put it that way. Food was. I'll put it that way. Or like, I would, but like, cause I'll eat a lot, but like it will be. No, you do, but it's just when you start to get into your kind of fruit and nuts sort of vibe, when you start grating like a little bird. I think like my meal deal,
Starting point is 00:12:20 I think it's because being vegan, there are not many options and the options are always really plain. Yeah. So, and also I don't like fizzy drinks. So I'll have a water in my meal deal, which is the first place it goes wrong Like that instantly is like feels like a waste and everyone's annoyed at me Well, you should be able to get a big bottle of Evian in your meal deal I don't know if you can do that anymore But still like people but you're trying to get the most bang for your buck. I think exactly
Starting point is 00:12:43 Exactly. You're trying to get bang for your buck and to get water does just feel stupid. Sometimes you could get an iced coffee. Ooh, what kind of iced coffee? You can get like a... Like the pranks called Jimmy's. Like the prank is called Jimmy's. They did like an oat iced coffee but I don't like it anymore. And you can sometimes get, if they have like a Costa machine, you can get a Costa, like
Starting point is 00:13:03 a coffee with your meal deal as your drink. I didn't know you could do that, the Costa machine and the meal deal. Yeah, if they have the machine. That's just a top tip for everyone. So that's quite good. That really is a top tip, if it's working, that Costa machine. Yeah, exactly, they rarely work. But like, that's quite good if you're getting that in your drink. That does feel like bang for your buck. It is bang for your buck, yeah. It's a real, it's actually a moment to reflect on the finances of the year, take stock and move forward.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Taking the budget. It's a moment to really capitalize. Yeah, the Meal Deal's a crazy place to be, especially if you go at a lunchtime on a working day. I've never seen somewhere more chaotic and horrific. It's a free for all. Oh, I quite love it. Makes me feel like I'm at home, which I am. I don't know where it makes me feel like I am at Meal Deal. Makes me feel like I'm at home, which I am.
Starting point is 00:13:45 I don't know where it makes me feel like I am. Makes me feel like I'm in year 11 and we're all gonna sit outside eating our sandwiches. Yeah, it makes me feel like it's sixth form times. Yeah, which, crazy times. Great times, yeah. Crazy times. Okay, another thing I'm looking forward to.
Starting point is 00:13:59 This is a particularly seasonal choice and I feel like I've only in the past few years really even been made aware that this is something I'm into. You know when almost like you don't really, you're sort of surprised at how much you like something or like yeah I guess you didn't see it coming. Yeah. Or like it's always just been there I guess, just whatever and then you kind of realise that hey I think I really like this thing. That is happening to me recently or like over the past few years and this year I'm really looking forward to Bailey's coffee in the morning or like Bailey's hot chocolate. That's so interesting the Bailey's is already out in this
Starting point is 00:14:34 house. Yeah well let me fill that. Bailey's is flowing. I'm obviously not having any but I need to get one of the vegan Bailey's things. There's nothing like it. Yeah. There's nothing fucking like it and like oh my god i literally cannot wait i don't think i know what it tastes like it tastes really fucking good i did have a vegan one one year when i was vegan i have had it in my life i've never had the vegan one and i've never yeah i haven't had it in like 10 years i guess but like i cannot picture picture the taste of it what is it creamy yeah it's's Irish cream it tastes like yeah yeah it's so good. Irish cream? Irish cream and it's just like oh my god it's 10 a.m. and it's gray outside and I've got a Bailey's coffee and like I'm about to fuck this day up. I mean that does feel quite mentored having it at 10 in the morning. I kind gonna be honest. I can't even remember us in last podmas.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I kind of remember you being like, isn't that your second Bailey's coffee of the day? And I was like, I don't know. Is that a thing? Bailey's coffee. Like people are putting it in their morning coffee. But not about your morning coffee. But maybe on Christmas day or like on a Sunday where it's like,
Starting point is 00:15:39 you know, it's definitely something you would do on a day off. If you're doing Bailey, if you're doing alcoholic coffee in the morning before work, you might have issue. Lucky for me I don't do any real work I'm just going to a podcast. Yeah yeah we're all right. Yeah I think it's like you would do it on Christmas day or Boxing day you might have like a Bailey's like coffee or a Bailey's like hot chocolate for 3pm. It's a real thing and it is absolutely, best time of year in fact, the most wonderful. That was really fun.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I literally cannot wait. This is honestly, this is the sad thing about my Christmases. No one in my family drinks really. Like it's the sort of thing people have a shit sip of Prosecco and be like, oh my goodness. Like they think it's the craziest day of the year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Like no one really drinks. I remember when I was at my grandparents, like I would, they had, it would be like sch my goodness like they think it's the craziest day of the year yeah like no one really drinks I remember when I was at my grandparents like I would they had they would be like schlar for days like it's all schlar and like things like that I used to beg for schlar as a kid they had like a little thing of red wine and I asked for a glass once and it was literally like I just asked for like pass me that crack pipe like it was literally like it was the shock of the century well how old were you? What, you were young? I know, I was like 25.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Like it's absolutely ridiculous. Yeah. Like it's just not a thing in the house. Like people do not drink. It's not like a part of Christmas. I was like, my grandma ate too much tiramisu and starts acting a bit funny. That's a bit of me, I think.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Genuinely. So like me and my sister have tried to, and my brother doesn't drink and my mum doesn't drink, my dad definitely drinks, definitely alcoholic. Definitely drinks. So he's in the Portuguese life. He drinks a bit too much, he drinks for the rest of us. But like. But I love that he's gone there and just completely, was he drinking like that's so his girlfriend's French so she and then yeah a bit of a bit of a whole key I'm a G. Oh, okay country. I And so is England but like oh my god, so no he's just embraced the Portuguese life of like siesta Kind of that's the thing is I think in your life people are drinking 24-7 in England They just don't have like hot weather to go with it. So when you're like kind of mid your makes it so beautiful
Starting point is 00:17:50 It makes it so lovely if you're like in the European is beautiful like sunshine weather blah blah Yeah in England, it's just like look at this grim state of affairs. You've got going on. It's utterly bleak Not the Bailey's though never bleak on the Bailey's It tastes But it tastes delicious, it tastes so good. Yeah, no, I know, yeah. And it feels, you know what I kind of think as an adult, like sometimes I go to the shop, like a food shop I mean, and I'm like, I could kind of get anything I want,
Starting point is 00:18:16 and it doesn't feel exciting anymore. You're like as a kid, if they'd be like, pick out like some sweets or whatever, pick out something, it would be like, Jesus Christ, oh my god what am i doing wow wow wow wow wow whereas now i mean i don't i'm like i could just do this any time and it's hard to like almost like i have tiramisu maybe once or twice a week like i will offer like i always have something sweet after dinner and i always like i just have like a lot of luxurious or things that I would associate as like,
Starting point is 00:18:46 bigger treats, I guess, as a kid, like a special thing of like, it's not just like a bar of chocolate. It's like a piece of cake. It's a piece of tiramisu. I feel like I have that quite often, whereas Bailey's is still that kind of one reserve. This is an ad by BetterHelp.
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Starting point is 00:21:01 So now it feels really like, oh, it feels kind of extra fun because it does have that kind of limited, that scarcity thing of like, it's exciting, I don't do it every week. Whereas Tiramisu is like, I'm overdoing that. Well this is kind of what we were just talking about, about advent calendars. Yesterday I really really really wanted something, like I wanted chocolate or something. And I was like fuck I just don't have any chocolate in the house. And I was like, well I do have my advent calendar, like I could. Like there is nothing't have any chocolate in the house And I was like well I do have my advent calendar like I could like there is nothing Stopping me from just like opening a few doors. Not physically no, but there's something emotionally stopping you for sure
Starting point is 00:21:31 I could do that and then I was like no look that is just not the spirit of Christmas like that Why is it like it literally I feel like as well we're quite Not rule breakers, but like I don't abide by these rules blindly I have to believe in what I'm doing. one, two, three written on the doors and I'm gonna do it in that order am I? do you know what I mean? but it's like yeah I follow the advent calendar kind of like strangers are my god, advent calendar is my god. well it would feel mental to do. to eat the whole thing. I don't know why that's just really deep for me.
Starting point is 00:21:59 it's against Christmas. but this is my thinking. I'm just getting delivered it. oh my god thank you so much. oh my god what is it? oh wait I'll show you. this is quite insane. this is my first of the year. oh my god. my Christmas mark. what's in there? tea. yum. what's in there? really peering out of the air. well I kind of thought like it sort of looked like it could have a squirty cream sort of energy. this is what normally has my Baileys um did I mention I like Baileys? So I've got a big mug here full of tea and also a baguette with bacon in it. Hmm. Yeah the advent calendar is law. Well because there's nothing stopping you from just like eating it all but you need some chocolate you eat the advent calendar literally I think the one I have is probably like four pounds like there's
Starting point is 00:22:41 nothing stopping me from just going getting a new one but there's something about no I must do this in the order. Like, this is very serious. I must. I must honour the laws. Because there was one year where my sister and her friend, Emy, and I know she listens, Hello. Hi Emy. I've got my eye on you. I wanna meet you.
Starting point is 00:22:58 They ate my advent calendar when I was a kid. And we're still talking about it. And so I think I feel particularly strong about doing them in the order. It just almost doesn't feel... I think it's like what's the word for when you can't see something it disappears like what's that word? I have no idea. Like object impermanence or something like that.
Starting point is 00:23:19 It's almost like when those doors are shut behind those advent doors it's not my business. There's no chocolate in there. It's not my business what's going on in there. no. it only becomes real the moment the clock turns and it becomes the day it's the morning of whatever and I open it to find that chocolate. that's like one thing that my parents and like my nan would tell me growing up that I feel gone fuck that. You lot don't know what you're talking about. Well, I think it's just like I know that I will feel very very very low. I'll feel pretty shoddy. That's right! It's weird! It's so weird. It will. It will trigger a low mood. It will be quite...it will feel...it will be a low moment.
Starting point is 00:24:02 It will make me feel out of control. Like it will make me not feel good. It will make me feel like I haven't abided the rules. Like I haven't been good. I haven't been a good girl. I've been on the naughty list. No, I think it would make me feel like, God, how low are you as a human being? That you could not for the sake of Christmas
Starting point is 00:24:20 do these one a day. Wow, okay. Well, that's where it starts to get interesting. Well because it's like you're not getting a lot of chocolate it's not particularly satisfying or like. It's not very good chocolate to be honest. You're kind of clawing around for scraps going through the doors of the advent calendar. Yeah it's a bit kind of gremlin like raccoon energy of like digging around in the bins. And you know as you're chewing number four, you're still digging in number five. No, 100%. It's horrible.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Why do I care so much about the advent? It's like my religion, it's the only thing I care about in life, preserving the goodness, the integrity of the advent calendar. Do you remember when we had an advent candle? Yeah, I do. I haven't gone one this year. And we made a hysterical video once of you,
Starting point is 00:25:02 do you remember this? It was like when we lived on Whippenham Road great times. we made a hilarious video where people were like where's Erin? where's Erin? and it's like there she is and it was like you was like a little bit and you were like there with the advent calendar and it's like it's barely gone down. wait I don't remember that one. it's really not gonna translate. so we had a great time. you had to go on that Instagram and see it. I can't get in I don't know what one! It's really not going to translate. So we had a great time. I can't get in, I don't know what the... Do you remember the password? I'm not logged in.
Starting point is 00:25:30 No, I don't know. Yeah, I don't have that Instagram anymore, but basically in third year, if you need, we have this Instagram. It was private, you'll never be able to find it. I forgot that was a video, but we did all of these weird little... That's where the name Wynn came from. Yeah, yeah, from there. Great times. Um
Starting point is 00:25:49 There was my I don't know. There were so many good ones on there. Like we really like Went in we went in we went all in we should we were kind of doing tik-tok before exactly It would have well, I just throw up just for us. Yeah. No, it was it was literally just fuzz is extremely private Extremely weird as well. Yeah but they were good. There was something in them. Some of them had legs. I forgot about that advent calendar one. So what was the joke there that I was just sat watching the advent calendar drip. The joke was like has anyone seen Erin? Like where is she? And then she goes up to like my room and it's like I think I saw her last night. She was like with the advent calendar. Really rubbish joke.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And then we went downstairs and you were still there, but I know what you're wearing, you're wearing your little giraffe pajamas. Yeah, I remember those. And you've got your glasses on. Aw, it's bedtime. Yeah, bedtime. Don't know where them glasses are, I've lost them.
Starting point is 00:26:37 And you have your bleached bottom hair. Yes, I've bleached hair. Yeah. Aw. Different times. great times. because that's how my mum when I said I'd started a podcast with you she's like, is she the one with the two-tone hair? so rude honestly.
Starting point is 00:26:52 just really rude, I feel ok. two-tone hair? she obviously doesn't know the word for it. ballet. so she was going to call it two-tone hair. that was a great video, I forgot about that. alright, anything else? any other foods you're looking forward to? Let me actually think.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Yeah, go on. I'm actually just eating a baguette, I don't know if you can tell. No, I didn't, oh my god I didn't even have food. It's really good. Oh my god there is one thing. So, my friend's birthday yesterday. Oh yeah. She's coming to stay tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And she said she's bringing, she got a vegan, she's not vegan, so I don't understand why it's vegan. But her sister got her a vegan carrot cake, which looked, let me show you a photo of this right now. It looks, I was looking at this, knowing that I'm gonna get a slice of this, it's like in the sun. And I was looking at a photo of this last night, smiling in my head,
Starting point is 00:27:43 knowing that a slice of this is coming my way. Oh god it looks good. Did somebody make that? I have no idea. Where's it from? I don't know why her sister would make it vegan. Her sister got it for her but I don't know so I feel like maybe she bought it. Can you ask and find out please? And then I also have been decided so guys I'm turning 28 on the 27th and I think I've decided what cake I'm gonna make. I've got it in my notes titled birthday cake. You're such a baker. I like to bake a little cake. I like
Starting point is 00:28:10 to bake it's been known yeah that's nice. I just think this looks so fucking good oh yeah that does look good that looks similar to the one you made before like a chocolate. I think this looks a lot more it's a bit more flat and like moussey you don't like the look of that i like i really like the look of it yeah i love the look of it i'm just staring intently i just think i'm just um imprinting on it like jacob yeah okay i thought some sort of yeah no i'm in deep yeah that looks good i couldn't tell whether you hated it or loved it no i love it but i love love it. That's what I might do for my 28th.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I might bake that, yeah. That's fun. Can I have some, do you think? Just already started. You know when it's like, I kind of am just, but then. So yeah, I'm clearly in a cake mood. That's what's sort of coming up. For one of my birthdays, my friend Lucy, who's a very good baker, baked me a vegan chocolate
Starting point is 00:29:04 tart. Which is... I've heard that's your fave. Yeah, this is like deep lore of me. My absolute favourite thing on this planet does not exist anymore was like a Waitrose chocolate tart. And that would be like, I think my parents got that, the date they told me that I was playing up. That's the sort of thing it means to me. It's a big thing of what can we get her to soothe her? It's this thing. I remember when my mum told me my parents were splitting up, she was like, do you want a cup of tea?
Starting point is 00:29:36 When we came home, she was like, before she told me. She was like, let's see. I was like, grown up. Yeah. Did you drink tea in year six? Yeah. You're joking. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I'm like a hundred years old, guys, so don't we know this. You drank tea in year six? Yeah and she told me the terrible news and I said well I just want you both to be happy. You're insane. You're nuts for saying that. I've been a thousand years old for my whole life. I literally came out, I'm the opposite of, I'm Benjamin Button vibes. I'm the opposite of you. You actually are. I came out of the womb and was like don't worry guys I'll handle it. No genuinely actually mental. Leave it to me. Do you want to know what's funny about that the contrast of what you you saying? I just want you guys to be happy. I remember my mum was obviously crying Like we'd like got me and my sister like gone upstairs to like process it
Starting point is 00:30:19 We like screaming in our room came back down my mum was crying and I was looked at and I was like I don't know why you're crying! I just think that it's funny. It's crazy. But it's good. I was literally like how dare you? I don't even understand why you're crying. This is why we just we have perfect harmony. God it's actually so devastating. It's a tough thing to go through, hey? It's a mental thing to go through. As a parent, I mean. You know actually quite a lot of people that, their parents have literally just split up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And this is like the first Christmas with the split up parents. Which I mean, really tricky. Who do you know, yeah? Could you cut? Yes. I'll tell you a bit about that off the recording but most of those must be cut yes yes they're gone that's funny yeah a lot of parents wait out you know get all the kids grown
Starting point is 00:31:12 up also by the time the kids are older the parent is probably at a time of their life where they're feeling more erratic and unhinged than ever yeah and they just start making bold moves yeah but anyway we're supposed to be talking about nice things yeah how do we get onto that i'm just gonna let that oh the chocolate tart it leads down dark road yeah it leads down best roads actually yeah great roads chocolate tart with a cup of tea oh my god both of our divorce foods would be a delightful meal together let's put them together yeah that's really nice you know what i used to do on the chocolate tart which i think really... i used to be obsessed with cream. that was like a... oh yeah i remember you saying. i used to love love love cream. but not whipped cream. double cream
Starting point is 00:31:56 pouring double cream. it's so... that's really sophisticated of you. it's very like village chart. it's almost just like i don't think I'd even heard of that until probably second year of uni I don't think I know double cream. It's a very like it's one of those kind of good English It's like whole fat. Yeah, I was quite whole film whole fat like blue lid milk girl Yeah, I'm like growing like kind of it's all like not semi skit like we were very whole fat kind of family I like that. But yeah like double cream was like I would pour that all over the chocolate tart. Yeah I remember you saying pouring double cream. Or didn't you have a bowl of custard a lot? Yeah custard was a big thing. Or like bananas and cream would be like fitting. Bananas and cream! That's what I'm getting at.
Starting point is 00:32:40 That would be gutting though. That's kind of old timey English woman like it's weird it's kind of hell in the bottom cart. It's weird. It's kind of Helen of Bonham Carter. It's bringing me into a different class bracket which I really like. It's middle fucking class. I love it. Yeah, it's nice. Honestly, bananas and cream, yeah like a little custard moment. Bananas and custard, yeah. Bananas and custard, yeah so put it all in there. Yeah the middle class cuisines. All the kind of quite dull, like, paperless English cuisines. It's kind of post-war,
Starting point is 00:33:11 like it's time to celebrate with some boring cream. 100%. My mum is post-war for sure in mentality. Okay, this might be the end. Yeah, I think it might be the end. All right. And it was a lovely app. That was really nice. Everybody well behaved, everybody feeling good. that was really nice. great balance. and
Starting point is 00:33:30 you never know what you're gonna get in Podmas. oh I thought of something. I think I typed it and then I thought I'm gonna have to announce that. I'm gonna have to make a public announcement. I think somebody maybe commented or like messaged something saying like oh yeah you like jingle bells or something. They mentioned bells and then I said about podbuzz and I said let the jingle bells ring and I thought did we know that we say have we put anybody picked up on that that we say let the bells ring? I think that's a 2024 hit edition yeah smash it. wait why did someone type messages saying jingle bells? in response to podmas I can't remember they must have said like oh yay Yeah. Yes they said jingle the freaking bells. Yeah honestly so true. So true and i said let the jingle bells ring. Bells ring. Nice. So let's use that. I love both. Yeah. Alright. Okay
Starting point is 00:34:36 perfect. Okay. Well let the jingle bells ring guys. Let the jingle bells ring. Maybe we could say at the beginnings of them. Yeah yeah. We're not brave enough at the moment to say what day this is. We're not numbering these just because we keep making a mess in the episodes and like maybe reordering things. so basically the one that we recorded first was horrible so we recorded a weird one to go first and now we sort of think okay let's put this kind of longer one somewhere else. yeah this might be day one. we didn't want it to be number one. no it would have scared everybody. we would ruin christmas frankly. it's the equivalent of your parents getting a divorce at Christmas. Oh god. It's not a good time. It's terrible. But maybe when we're brave enough to say it's day seven of
Starting point is 00:35:17 Podmas, let the jingle bells ring sort of thing and then we get into the episode. Nice, I love that with Podmas, we work shop things. We work shop things. We're like a third year in a row doing it. We very much work it out into the episode. Nice, I love that with Podmas, we work shop things. We live for the third year in a row, don't we? We very much work it out on site. Little elves just work shopping constantly. On the job. Constantly work shopping on the job. But you think by the third year we might have, we're like, okay, halfway through we can bring in this,
Starting point is 00:35:36 on it's the seventh day of Podmas, let the jingle bells ring. Let the jingle bells ring. Alright, on that note. It's so demeaning. I like, because everyone comes in and is like, don't do that. Or like, yeah love that. Team effort, you know. Okay, Merry Podmas.
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