Goes Without Saying - give me back my girlhood, it was mine first: sephy to swiftie #1

Episode Date: April 8, 2024

✷ VIDEOS ON IG & TT ✷swiftie podmothers sephy & wing enter the chat: discussing ‘i know places’, ‘so it goes’, ‘would’ve, could’ve, should’ve’, ‘the great war’, & ‘tim mcgraw’. ✷shop ✷ www.sephyandwing.co.ukhear more ✷ www.instagram.com/sephyandwingwatch more ✷ www.tiktok.com/@sephyandwing Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The animal kingdom is queer and we are a part. Find a field guide to gay animals on Spotify, Apple. Or wherever you get your podcasts. ACAST helps creators launch, grow, and monetize their podcasts everywhere. Acast.com Okay. Iconic. I'm ready, I'm ready. So i don't know that much about her i know like the hits i would say i know the hits i saw the era's tour film while we got these posters yep really loved it cried the whole way through but i was on my period so i think that did it did help that did

make me more open to it it made me sob. Through like shake it off it was kind of weird. But I think I was just overwhelmed by it. Wow. But I'm excited. And I like folklore. That's all I know really. I don't know really much else. Okay so I have curated with you in mind a playlist.

Multiple playlists actually but today we'll just go into the first one. Yeah. To get you into the swifty okay it's your indoctrination into the swifty verse yeah i'm ready peter's escaping the capital playlist so if he's escaping the capital with peter malark playlist oh you need to see the thumbnail you can't do this to me though this actually isn't fair i told you i'm trying to get over my peter malark so we're listening to these songs this is very it's katniss coded as the description i put this isn't actually fair you look like you're

gonna cry already i told you secret doomed relationship katniss coded tortured narrator vibes that's this place but i actually really struggled because i ended up putting i was really trying to keep it down yeah i didn't want to put too much it not keep it down volume wise but like not give too much of her world and this is the little that's the move oh my goodness if we burn you burn with Oh my goodness. Let me actually see. This is quite cruel of you. I think it's nothing. I think it's a lovely gesture. Imagine if I did this about Jacob Elordi to you.

You'd never forgive me. That's fucked up. This is crazy to create me a playlist of my love. I thought it'd be nice. It's everything. I'm just not, I'm not prepared for this. It's too everything I want. You're going to love it.

Oh my God. Okay. Okay. I'm ready okay yeah so we're listening with in mind we're listening through the lens of katniss peter obviously your katniss in this world i would assume that i'm not peter and we're this is where we are i might get the lyric video up yeah hell yeah that was my problem when we watched the midnights thing that i really um need to see the lyrics because then you realize it's a poem and it really fucking is that's why the whatever that's called dead poet club the new thing sounds great just quickly this is the thing with taylor swift is like literally global superstar i know places okay what is this okay so that's the thing

so okay yeah the tortured poets tortured that's the word did we not get that no tortured poets department is there another word though and have you seen the cover yes she looks beautiful yeah but she's not really in it, is she? She's kind of lying down. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen that. Wow. Love to see her lying down. Yeah, I agree.

I'm excited for that. That comes out before our Ears Tour date, by the way. So will there be some of those songs in the tour? I think the whole Ears Tour is going to have to shift about. Surely. Because there'll be new... Okay, so this is a song... This is a song originally from 1989 so it's

pop yeah era she's she's star in the in the sky can't hide etc etc she's just it's all eyes on her yeah and we're listening through the lens of peter peter i love you i love you i'm always listening through the lens of that which is embarrassing i'm aware of and i chose this as the beginning song because i thought it's the vibe wow okay i love it okay i'm actually really excited this is dangerous though oh god okay kind of creepy it's really creepy i'm loving it kind of creepy really creepy i'm loving it love love that's stunning okay okay just we're the foxes they've got guns the birds in cages they've got guns we're the foxes and we run and you're running with peter you're escaping

was this from hunger games like not in it was. Was this the one that was written for it? No. What was that one then? That was Safe and Sound. Yeah. Yeah. That was... So what's this about?

About running away from paparazzi. Yeah. I'm into it. Okay, big chorus. Do I know this song? No. No, I don't feel like I know. Divine.

Is this the chorus? Yeah. Oh, no. Katniss. know this song no no i don't feel like i know divine is this the chorus yeah oh no don't add that on stunning stunning stunning the place is the weekie kind oh no places the weekend yeah i love it it's so good i don't i've never heard this in my life you would ever have that's classic tayless me yeah okay i really liked that at the end there's a click of like a recorder as if to be like kind of oh god yeah genuinely i'm not convinced there isn't a tapper in here okay so what's with that then so that whole vibe is her being like i literally can't go outside without people looking at everyone's recording everything yeah like i'm being hunted blah blah in your world it's like

me and peter malark are running through the streets. We're being hunted. Yeah, that's what I'm seeing. Just grab my hand and don't ever drop it. Yeah, that's what I'm definitely seeing. I know places where we can hide Katniss's cabin. I mean, exactly. I'm seeing it, yeah. With the coffee. The coffee.

With Lucy Greybeard. With Lucy Greybeard. Yeah, that's how I'm definitely seeing it. With my cousin, Mon Ivory. Mon Ivory. Mon Ivory. Stunning. Okay. Happy. that's how i'm definitely seeing it with my cousin mon ivory stunning okay happy perfect i know places that we can yeah yeah i love i'm into that this is one of my favorites when 1989 originally came out okay is that so that's taylor's version so she's re-recorded that. Cool. She re-recorded that whole album. Actually, recently, yeah,

that song with the birds in the sky. Uh-huh. I know it. Don't look yet. Okay. But this is one of my favourites. Yeah. It has quite... Why I think you'll like it.

What's it from? It's from Reputation, which you are a Reputation girl. I know that's my favourite. And I know no songs. But you loved it in the film. When that... The snakes.

I just knew as soon as that came on. The rattle, yeah. The energy change. And she came out in that one-legged outfit. Iconic. I thought, whatever this is, I think it's my favourite. And what's that song that's on it that I really like? I think it had like a table doing that on the stage.

Oh, I like that. My favourite line. Look what you made me do. Yeah, it has my favourite line. Baby, I rise up from the dead. I do it all the time. I've got a list of names. And yours is in red underlined.

That's my favourite song. Perfect. But I don't like the chorus. Look what you made me do. Yeah, you don't like that. Nothing. But that line is so good. It's your favourite song.

It's my favourite song. Shit. But that line yeah yeah yeah okay ready yeah don't look here okay one thing i will say can i look now sorry yeah okay but don't look too hard i like this so setting the scene for her it's like start of a new relationship with peter no no no she wasn't with peter malark no no vanessa hutchins was was with him yeah she was and soon you will be that took such a long time well i don't have that in my memory but i do now you told me about it you messaged me saying vanessa hudgens was with him and i said and you said i know i know yeah i did know but anyway she was with joe olwyn of that fit that terrible series that was about the good book what's it called of um

conversation with friends fame joe olwyn of who ruined the best book of all time ouch he didn't but it was miscast and terrible this is like yeah it's new relationship but it's like we're kind of hiding yeah yeah i think it's quite um there's a spice to it okay okay i'm in so it goes uh-huh and i love her in this photo it's just yeah she looks incredible she looks so good my magician is stunning kind of tarot card yeah i was seeing that as like crazy yeah good chorus crazy okay i've read ahead lipstick on your face that's great yeah stunning stunning crazy oh my god wow stunning stunning stunning oh my goodness shivers

here we go what a fucking bang ass yeah it's good I like it and I'm yours to lose very good yeah I like that

that's cool so good yeah yeah love love love yeah so good dressed in black now.

I love her voice here too. Yeah, it's pretty. Just a little harmony. Yeah, yeah. Peter Malar. Stop adding that. I can't. Yeah, stunning though.

Stunning. Scratches down your back now, Peter Malar. Thank you for watching. It was my pleasure. It was absolutely my pleasure. Okay, so that was good. So we're into So It Goes. Okay, so what's that? That's Reputation. i'm into it it's new relay yeah it's like they

don't even know but like me and you it's happening yeah so is that first one about him as well joe no that was maybe more of a harry styles angle oh well they really do need to run and they really need to run yeah that's back in 1989 yeah that was back in 1989 harry era yeah is that one with style on the album i like that song a lot about harry star yes i don't really like that oh really yeah i really like that song oh i thought you said i don't really know i really do i really do okay different angle for this one okay i wonder if you've come across this song in your life anyway okay just in terms of like women what's it called slut no no but that's okay yeah what's it called slut women must be about a slut what's it called slut women slut

bunch of sluts what is it this is a new angle and I if I'm gonna make it Hunger Gamesy which I am yeah I do

I think you should consider Katniss and President Snow okay um just because there are some nice links to the Hunger Games

world but I also think generally yeah it's I think it's one of her best songs of all time what is this and i'll play it for you now it goes a little something like would have could have should have on midnights i knew that from that but it's on the deluxe oh it's on the deluxe that's why i haven't heard it yeah no i haven't heard this i don't think you can see here actually where people are skipping to a

certain that's the bridge it is the bridge i know that people like those okay ready yeah different energy okay we're slowing down yeah there's power she's a woman she's reflecting now yeah and she's thinking i'm not a fucking child anymore yeah and there are some things that i'm feeling about that's my favorite thing for a woman john mayer yeah yeah that's what i'm seeing kind of um what's his name scooter scooter to all of these just like don't take advantage of me how dare i'll speak directly to you john and scooter and what's his name jake Gyllenhaal. Oh! How dare you?

With John Mayer, I'm like... First of all, I don't know anything, but how dare you? I don't want to throw words out there, but... Disgusting. P word. Yeah, I agree. Ready? And I don't know anything about...

On that note, let's go. Yeah, go on. I love the graphics of this already. Midnight looks so fucking good. Yeah, love. Her voice. Her voice. Midnight looks so fucking good. Yep, love. Her voice. Her voice. God, it is President Snow.

This is my favourite so far. Yeah, yeah. Incredible. Incredible. John, you're disgusting. 19. A baby. A baby girl.

19 and I believe John Mayer was 31. Yeah, it's actually... Pedophile. It's disgusting. Think of a 19 year old 19 year old baby angel i don't like at 19 19 i love that if i was some paint did it splatter on a promising grown man promising grown man just like that incredible incredible if i was poison you could have spit me out so what what was the John Mayer situation here?

They were in a relationship. I know that, but so that's disgusting. And how did this end? I think badly. No, he's been derogatory about her and subtle. He's made digs about her throughout the years. And she has an amazing song, which we will get to. I've heard some men being like justice for John Mayer sort of vibe.

Well, go fuck John Mayer. I don't give a fuck. Yeah. And you know when you don't, you know the type, I don't trust the men. So I've known. I don't trust the men. And to say that, please, please, please, please. Sorry.

If I'm, even now, I'm not getting involved with a 19 year old. 19? 19. 19 is, so from my perspective, that's younger than my baby brother and he's a baby and that's god that's the baby of my family like you're a freak if you're dating if you're disgusting we're 27 okay so at 19 it's like also if you walk past a 19 year old girl oh my god it's not right i'm not yeah let's go this is my favorite so far i'm liking just the sound of her voice the vibe it's got um a sort of country element to it i'm liking this yeah so good oh no it's not your fault it's not your fault that's so stunning oh my god i regret you all of the time shivers incredible powerful line

that's horrid it's horrid it's horrid oh who is this guy give me back my girl it was mine first that actually is fuming me out i'm annoyed give me back my girlhood it was i almost see that as like give the women like almost all of us it was all ours first like there were there are so many cases which just like girls are robbed of being a girl so early actually oh my god give it back it was mine first that's so so so stunning oh well done that's the bit that everyone's that's my favorite that's my favorite give me back my girlhood. It was mine first. You fucking freak. You fucking promising grown man freak.

Paint on him. Poison on him. Poison? Spit it out then. John. John. Disgusting freak. Freak of nature. Is that offensive? Maybe. I'm offended by this. it's really offensive i'm offended

give me back my girlhood it was my first it's important it's politically important that is politically important wow okay how old was she when she wrote this i know it's midnight so it's new yeah that oh i know how old she was so she was i believe 32 31 32 when she wrote, I believe, 32. 31, 32 when she wrote this. I believe the same age that he was. That's powerful because also when... It's the classic thing. It's the classic thing. Look. You see a 19-year-old and you think, yeah, I wouldn't.

It reminds me actually of the incredible documentary Leaving Neverland. Oh, yes. Of like, they didn't realise the people that were like assaulted by Michael Jackson. Yeah, and then you see children. Well, they have have children and they didn't even realize what happened to them until their kids got to the age that they were when they were assaulted and it's like oh my god that wasn't a relationship that was like a three that's like a five-year-old kid that really reminds me of that

like you get to that age and then you're like that's fucking weird because only then you can see it yeah that's my favorite that was a big one give me back my girlhood it was mine that is right there on the ceiling oh my goodness give me back my god we let you use the studio for free all right okay thoughts so far to summarize my thoughts so far are i'm loving this journey how far are we going in terms of on the josephine swifty journey how am i faring you're faring well i'm not i'm not there yet though yeah i'm not a swifty yet because i don't know enough like i need to know a lot more before i would call myself swifty yeah i say i would love her she's divine this is what i would say but i don't think i've earned the title

yet because i truly know nothing you know some good things though everything i've seen so far i really like yeah um but i'm not yeah i don't think i'm gonna listen to it on my own yet that's what i'm looking i don't ever but not yet not yet yeah i'm not um there yeah we're not pulled in yeah this isn't what can i listen to would have could have should you wouldn't listen to that again i would but i'm not gonna seek it out wow maybe i would maybe i would i i think that's re that's my favorite that's been the most likely one that i would seek you would see that i would play i can't think of an environment that i'm listening to that see i think this is where me and you're

different it's kind of like me listening to my tears ricochet every day it's like i see sad things sad and like there are very few occasions where i think i could be or i could be angrier i could okay i could be angrier or sadder now no but i think it's like i'm feeling that so i need to just like just have the moment yeah i like that that's been the closest one that i would be like on the train i'll listen to that thing is i listen to midnights on the train like that's the sort of thing and i listen and folklore yeah i listen would i haven't in years but that when that first came out i listened to that walking to the shop sort of thing yeah lovely that's been the one so far that i would um i would say let's put you on a on a swift ban yeah no i well i'm already on it

yeah and then i will you'll introduce you yeah yeah it's almost like oh yeah i'll feed you like a baby bird i'll eat it first and i'll spit it into me yeah it's perfect yeah i'm into that all right yeah deal and if it's poison i'll spit it out perfect let's go cool one two one two we just had a bit of a wee break and a tea break yes um and we're back for more Taylor. How many more? So is this just the first playlist? Yeah.

This is the first introductory session? Yeah. Okay. Wendy's Small Frosty is the ultimate summer refreshment. And not because it's cool and creamy and made with fresh Canadian dairy. It's also refreshingly cheap. Just 99 cents until July 14th. It's a treat for you and your wallet.

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Wow, and then for me to in my own life. Okay, so. So again, I'll set the scene. The Great War. We're coming in again. A historical era, I never knew. This is historic era. We are deluxe edition of Midnight's once again. Wow.

There's a lot on that deluxe then. There is actually. Because I've never even heard of any of this. I would like for you to not explore it without me, if that's alright. I wouldn't even consider it. Well, similar vibe to what I could have, should have. We're a bit moody. It's kind of melancholy.

This is a bit of a favourite among people, actually. The Great War. Yeah. Ready to go? Could you give me a bit of a tone of, like, what's this about? I know they're not all... I also feel like it's quite... It's the classic, like, reductive thing to be, like,

all women's writing is about... Or even, like, it's autobiographical. It's like they don't have a mind to make shit up but like what is this in reference to this is in reference to conflict in a relationship okay challenges in a relationship feeling a little bit um unsafe or lacking trust or and we're kind of talking about joe we could be we could be interesting we could be talking about peter malark we could let's do that and we could we could even be talking about gail jokes whoa he's nothing to me um he is actually nothing to me love i can't help but watch you crimson clover that's peter coded wow so the great war is like a big argument yeah so much poison that's

incredible isn't it yeah screaming from the crypt okay ned star what are you joking wow what's crimson clover think in your mind i'm seeing it it could almost be called clover think in your mind a crimson i'm seeing it it could almost be called what could it be called we'll get there a red you'll get there my favorite color used to be crimson fun fact crimson when i was younger crimson you could be the crimson clover yeah i see it what is it love this it sounds amazing this bit is this the honor and truth ned stark very war honorable man yeah this is quite stunning i was about to say it's hideous i really like the trees like it's a bit christian the font i really i'm not mad at the font no i am you're getting your clover it's a poppy oh my god i knew it just before they said it it's aver. It's a poppy. Oh my God. I knew it just before they said it. It's a poppy.

It's a poppy. God, she's World War. She's in the Great War. Wow. Fields of Red. Great melody here, hey? Yeah. We're burned for better.

Sorry, Katniss. So stunning. Yeah. If we burn, you burn with us. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

So good. Great war. I like this. It's good, right? Yeah, I really like this. Could be on folklore. Yeah, definitely. Definitely.

Soft. Soft. And also kind of a big poetic metaphor with like the returning theme. Exactly. Like, yeah yeah i'm into new photos delicious yeah she looks incredible positive reaction to the great war i really like clover girl yeah crimson clover gets me i also i like yeah a big extended metaphor sort of thing and it's like you it's not just about great war yeah yeah but also it's like it's called the great

war and you stick with it like it, you have got many, many images. It's not just like, we argued all the time. It's called The Great War. It's like, it's a piece. It's a piece. Yeah, it's a piece. Yeah, love. It's a piece.

Everything is relevant. Everything is delicately chosen. I love it. Perfect. And I thought there was quite nice Hunger Games references. Definitely. My home definitely the one you reached for yes we survived the great war you know the rebellion that's what i'm saying wow

so that went down well yeah i really like that on midnight's deluxe yeah but don't go looking i'm not going to look but that is interesting to me that it's on there yeah it's just like i would never have placed it there not that i know know anything. Okay. But I could only have placed it. Go on. Hit me with the next. I'm torn. I'm torn. What angle would you prefer?

Oh, I don't know. What are the options? We could do a bit more of a like, I don't know. Vibe. There is something in here that I think speaks to her genius. I think that's the angle I like from her. Do you know what? I think everything that really think speaks to her genius i i think that's the angle i like from her do you know what i think everything that really hooks me about her are the quite like intricate bits of her

writing rather than shake it off even though i do like that that does get me on my feet as we've seen before the iris tour video got me on my feet it really did yeah screaming and crying perfect storms that got you to a weird level but i do really like when the lyrics are good yes me too not they're not good and shake it off but when they're detailed i really like that you like reading between the lines yeah i like it when it's just like that's really clever lyrically clever not just like musically clever uh-huh because i don't really understand that okay so this is a song so i could take it way back here so this is speaking to her baby genius i think okay this is back her

first album so she's writing this when she's 14 15 16 is that called fearless no is it called it's called taylor swift it's called debut oh no go on good talk us through some others what's romeo and juliet on yeah that's on fearless what's Romeo and Juliet on? yeah that's on Fearless what's that called? Love Story Love Story that's on Fearless what's Romeo and Juliet on? that's on Shakespeare Shakespeare

that's the great the yeah collected works of Shakespeare this is on debut this is on her debut album what's the album of that cover?

it's from 2006 so so it's not the hair it's not the hair being flicked it's not the hair being flicked but it is hair for sure yeah it's ugly even for the time not that she looks amazing she looks gorgeous the colors of that are very bad green and blue i really don't like edited horrific blue it's very 2006 yeah butterfly i think i remember because i was into miley yeah all of that i remember not liking that at the time.

Crazy. Yeah. That is, God, she's come a long way. Definitely. So in this album, and this is where I think, like, you can't, her songwriting. Yeah. This is a child. This is not just a 19-year-old girl.

This is. Like a 15-year-old girl. This is like a 14, 15-year-old child. Okay. She's incredible. She's incredible. What's it called? It's called Tim McGraw.

Tim McGraw? Do you know Tim McGraw? Who the fuck? What? Tim McGraw? What? So Tim McGraw is a country artist. Okay.

Country artist. Tim McGraw is a country artist. Yeah. So that's some info that we need here. Key context is quite a big deal. Can I see a photo of him, Tim? Yeah, sure. I would just like to see if I know who he is.

I don't think you do. It's not really my area of expertise. You've got a country hat on. This is Robbie Ray. Sweet niblets. Right, okay. This is a child yeah if the if the assignment is beautiful kind of serene country love song this is hitting the mark i don't know how a child of 15 years could do something like this okay for funsies just to to flex. Just on a Saturday night.

Just quickly write Tim McGraw. Okay, I'm so intrigued by the name. It's so confusing. But okay, let's go. Shan. Kid. Child. Cute. Immediately cute. Trick. She's a baby in this.

This is such a good song. Like, it's crazy. So stunning. So stunning. Driz. Driz. This is so good. Cheers.

In my old... I like that. Genius. Tears. Yeah, her voice has changed a lot. Crazy. Tears. That's unrecognisably her voice.

Backstabbing. Oh. That's cute. Cutie Constance, like, like what when you were 12 genius child from three summers back it's like when you were 11 playing on your ds i like that as well it's like i want every time you listen to this guy's music, I know you must think of me. I hope you think of me. Yeah, because there are so many things like that. It's like, I know I'm the biggest fan of that that you know.

It's such a take. It's such an idea for a song. Also, I feel like a lot of people must feel like that about her music. Yeah. The guy that they've just broken up with won't be able to listen to Taylor Swift without thinking of them. Definitely. Like, she's such she's tim mcgraw she's so many people's tim mcgraw surely i'm giving myself shivers cute cute cutie a concept yeah i love that that's really cute genius 14 year old girl right like i'm sorry what how old was she actually when she

wrote that like she was below the age of 18 when she wrote that 100 below the age of 18 ridiculous actually like it also if you look at the things that you were writing when you're a kid like if i really read back my diary all right if i read back my fucking facebook posts nonsense like it's actually like think of what you're capable of she was 15 yeah she wrote it in math class well she's a bad maths queen then yeah like the rest of us not listening oh my god that's iconic 15 i mean that's pretty incredible isn't it and you have the concept of not just like i love you you. I had so much fun with you in summer. I've written you all these letters.

When you hear Tim McGraw. When you hear Tim McGraw, I hope you think of me. I hope you think of my head on your chest. And my old black dress. Yeah. And the moon like a spotlight on the lake. That's really stunning. I love that.

But also you can hear the 15 year old in that as well. Totally. Because it's so like. Dream like. Almost as though you've had no experience totally of it and a lot of her earlier stuff is which which is what i love the romeo and juliet one uh-huh and fearless too as a song what that album is named i don't know that song she's basically saying like woohoo i'm gonna spin around in my dress fearless love oh my god i'm

loving her what a genius yeah that was really good child also to call your song tim mcgraw it's a bold move it's definitely bold it's like he's gonna hear it your idol is gonna hear that love so you better make it good and it was and it was perfect so was that a success at the time that song yeah it was because i've never in my life heard of it you wouldn't you wouldn't yeah it's a it's still a deep cut but a popular one yeah yeah i guess everything she does is popular really now yeah yeah within reason yeah it's like well even her worst song is great like worst streamed song it's gonna be like the biggest yeah thing ever wow okay i like tim mcgraw tim mcgraw i still don't know if i'd listen to it yeah that's fair in my life

but i'm slowly feeling the swifty build within me you can feel i'm getting a picture for her life i think i think that's important it is it really is it's important to appreciate the intelligence i think that's coming behind it's like if i'm writing something she actually okay so this might intrigue you when she got her honorary um degree yes from where was it? NYU I believe. Yes. I believe I have seen that. She said I write I have different types of songs. You told me about this. Gel pen. Yeah. Some of them is like it's written with a

fountain pen. It's nice. Some of them is like yeah or even more so it's written with a quill and ink. Oh folklore. Some of them is glitter gel pen. It's like shake it off. i'm going into it thinking i'm gonna make a perfect pop song yeah and then i do yeah and it's the intention yeah of like owning it's like if i'm using if i'm using the words hey hey hey just think while

you've been getting down like if you're doing something silly and goofy it's intentional definitely crazy i love that okay that was tim mcgraw that was tim mcgraw should we finish on tim mcgraw finish at the beginning okay for today lovely class is over we oh no that's not taylor swift thing that was a film i was gonna say we end at the start because i thought i'd seen that but like i open at the close yeah but that's the film actually of jodie Comer in Ignore That. What's her hand at the start? It's like... Oh, it looks really good.

Oh, it's not out? No, it's like about this flood or something. It's like a dystopian thing. But I thought it might be in the name of Taylor's new album because I saw them at the same time. Nothing to do with it. Okay, perfect.

Tim McGraw. Thanks for that. Thank you so much for curating this. Pizza Mark. It's too much to handle, that angle. I love it. And thank you so much. There's this it's too much to handle that angle i love it and thank you so much to be done yeah oh my god see you there see you next time.