Goes Without Saying - going with the flow: podmas #22

Episode Date: December 22, 2024

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Visit BetterHelp.com to learn more and save 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelp, H-E-L-P, dot com. Wow. Let the jingle bells ring. Let the jingle bells ring out. With an apology from Seth and Quince. Yeah, with a hey guys, how's it been? With I'm so sorry.

How are you? We miss you. We missed, what was it, three days? Yeah. And it doesn't feel good. On the trot. The guilt when we don't. It eats me alive. Yeah it really does, it's a horrible feeling. It's quite soul destroying actually which I feel like I don't know I need to sort out my relationship to this podcast for any money. I know. I need to sort out my relationship to this podcast for anyone who knows. I think let's keep some kind of strange relationships with it. Yeah. That's part of the charm.

Well I just, my whole worth is dependent on like... Oh yeah, no. Yeah, maybe sort that out. So that needs to be fixed. That's not good, no that's really not good. But anyway. Yeah. The sad thing is there isn't really a reason for this one. Like the last one is like, yeah, Wing was ill, that's a proper thing. And Wing still has been ill. Yeah, but I'm fine.

But the problem is technology actually fucked us over. Yeah. You know, I did hear something about Mercury. A retrograde situation. Retrograde ended, but maybe I saw something about planets. Because it did feel like that. Like it felt like, have we ever spoken about Dobby at the Barrier? We have spoken about it and you said it to me

when I was ill. Yeah. And it actually comes to Kiran Culkin with me. Yeah, which I've never been so sad. I'm still so sad and I do feel, I think I feel, I find it, okay, so there's a lot going on here. Okay, yeah, yeah. Just take a second. We haven't spoken to you a three days guys. Hey guys. How are we? Hi, Harry. I know directly to you

How's it going? We love you. Love you. Love you. Love you. How's everyone finding the end of the year? Hope everyone's well, etc. Oh god, it's been a ride and Right. So first thing I want to say which maybe we can get into but it's not really that interesting But it's definitely a big thing in my life that as someone who has been so, so sad, and I really just struggle with like a terrible brain, not like in a fun way, not like in an, oh cute, like let's raise awareness way, but like in a really, really like, oh, I'm so gutted

that I've lost so much of my life and existence to feeling bad in the brain beyond repair. Broken, some may say. That I find it really, and I hate the use of the word, but I'm going to deploy the word triggering. I find it very specifically triggering. To cancel plans when I'm ill, I find it really difficult because I hate cancelling plans because it makes me feel like oh look there you go again just depressed girl can't do anything in life yeah but that's not what that was and that wasn't what that was but still everyone knows look the audience is with me here

and what I say yeah we don't mind if you cancel plans. Like that is not, anyone that, we're actually just speaking about this. People that force you to do plans when you don't wanna do them. First of all, consent, major consent issue here. Yeah, it's weird. Second of all, God, I experience it so often

where people are like, kind of force you to do things when you don't wanna be there. And the worst feeling in the world is being someone you don't wanna be. and the only worst feeling than that is being the person that's forcing someone to be someone they don't want to be. But the only worst feeling than that, I'll run up you, is not being able to be somewhere that you do want to be. Yes, agreed.

Because you mentally can't be there. And that's why we invented the phrase dobby at the barrier. yeah dobby at the barrier so the other day dobby at the barrier was um barsefi said basically when i was ill and i couldn't go and see the kieran kulkin there was a screening that i'm so i which by the way i hate to say it such an amazing film and you guys all need to see it it's called a real pain i'll watch it. direct bay and starring jesse eisenberg with kieran kulkin as like the guy in to see it, it's called A Real Pain. I'll watch it. Directed by and starring Jesse Eisenberg with Kieran Hulkin as like the guy in it.

Oh my God, it's Kieran at his best. I keep seeing clips of it, I keep seeing bits and I'm like. Well, let's go see it again, like we can just make our own screening. Oh really? Do you think Kieran will come? Honestly, are you guys actually,

I can't even tell you how in love with him I was when I left that screening. I was actually quite devastated Clips of him everywhere. I saw him on the variety Actors on Actors I oh yeah, I've seen have you and I saw him on Graham Norton. I think I saw him. Yeah, so you know great But basically when I couldn't go to that Sefi said don't worry about it is Dobby at barrier, basically something's preventing you from being able to go. And that did make me think, oh God, because I was thinking maybe I can go if I just,

but basically the problem with the screening is I would have been coughing the whole way through and I thought I'd be ruining. And you wouldn't have enjoyed it. Well yeah, but that's irrelevant. I just was more preoccupied with everyone around me. I basically, I'll be ruining the screening for everybody because I'll be coughing throughout. I'll probably have to get up and go outside and cough. I'll probably miss it. Also is really good

because there wasn't really an easy exit. You would have had to be stepping. You'd basically have to walk in front of the screen. And that would have been what I was doing. No I don't think it would have worked. Thank God. But then when you said Dobby at the barrier, yeah, I started to think like, oh God, what if something bad happens? And it kind of gave me a bit of an anxious thing, you know, when you kind of, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, not at all. Not, not to you, but just like, you know, when you kind of think, oh, hey, what if something bad happens? Yeah, what if Dobby is at the barrier and

Voldemort's trying to kill me? Basically, I thought, what if I go to the screening and then I get attacked on the train or something? Well, thank God you didn't go then. Yeah, well even though that's so stupid I do think these things do happen Sort of for a reason but like the reason was I had too much going on I was one down and I got ill and it forced me to slow down and when I was saying I don't want to miss a podmas. I don't want to miss a podmas and then we had to miss podmas it's just stupid. It's ridiculous but I even think like there was probably something's got to give and it might as well be the fucking Kieran Culkin fucking screening

like it doesn't matter like it truly doesn't like I know it's like something has got to give yeah but sometimes I do think when there's a feeling of like okay so I really want to do this thing but for some reason I can's like something has got to give. Yeah. But sometimes I do think when there's a feeling of like, okay, so I really want to do this thing, but for some reason I can't like something is blocking me and it often is like illness, especially. Yeah. Like we're preaching to the choir invented this pioneered the phrase. Oh I thought you were going to say the podcast, why we invented this podcast. No, pioneered the phrase. Dobby at the Barrier. Dobby at the Barrier. Because there was a time where I was supposed to be seeing this guy that I had been kind

of seeing long distance for quite a long time. Was supposed to be a big reunion day and I was so ill that I couldn't go. Yeah. That fucking hurt. Like that was a bad day. That was not being fair. And the illness was literally there for that day and we sort of started being like there must be some sort of reason why you couldn't go to that. Like there must have been something like that was so fucking random.

And I think there was a reason like I won't go into it but I do think there was a reason. In hindsight I'm kind of glad I wasn't there. I would love to be there but like yeah yeah yeah I think it did save me from a certain thing. Yeah I agree. So anyway what's new with you guys? That story is a barrier. Basically what happened was I said wing a voice note our texts were not sending to each other which I thought was you but then I thought was you so I thought that was fair you know yeah I thought it was you I'd sometimes our texts don't send to each other it's really weird yeah well sometimes basically so I don't know if you guys know this about me but I do have multiple phones

three not in use it's basically just my contact runs well and then I get a new phone and then I just have the old one so currently I've got the old one filming. Often she carries around. When I'm with you I carry my phones yeah because we need when we're going to the studio we have multiple filming setups. It's actually very useful. No it's very useful. I'm more... I'm shocked. Okay I don't know you are gonna agree with this but the size of your hands that you can hold three phones are quite comfortable you know guys my hands are absolutely huge they're as big as Rupert Grint's famously because when you pass them to me I'm like bloody hell how have you been holding these things

I can carry so many things I think that's a it... it's a skill. All with a different case on. Yeah I keep them safe apart from my oldest, oldest one. That one's loose. I don't give a shit about that. Yeah, um the old phones basically what happened was in Covid I got a new phone. This is basically, this is the kicker. I got a new phone and I'm not gonna dress it up. I couldn't be bothered to sort out Taking all of my stuff off of one phone and putting it on the new one I basically I had no storage on it So I knew if I just put all my stuff on this new phone, I'm gonna have no storage on my new phone Which is horrible. Yeah, no

So then I just walked around with two phones It's fair. It's just really weird But then once I did that for, honestly about a year, it was really dumb. It was a big mistake and it was chaotic. It was actually really chaotic of me. No, for sure, but then also like my text would sometimes send to the other phone. So they'd go to the old phone, so that was a whole issue. Then obviously another contract runs out.

Oh guys, I don't want to... the fact that it's going on for like what three years how long does the contract take to run out? yeah a couple years that was in 2020 that it started. Bloody hell this has been the whole podcast this has been going on. But at the moment now I just have I have one phone in use currently but apart from the other one that's filming me and the other one over there that I'm looking at. Because right now for example my phone is filming this, that is my one phone that I own.

Yeah. iPhone 11 bought in 2019, my one phone. That's crazy. Yeah, good for you. And since that period, God, you've just been accumulating. What I don't need to do. But you don't try to throw them out, that's the weird bit. No I should sell them and my literally like, there's no reason why I wouldn't sell them apart from my own inability to do anything. But that's so fair enough. So there we go. No it's so fair enough. It's just always I assume that the text has gone to the wrong phone. Well that I don't know what happened those texts are fully like I don't have anything from you. So basically so gutting. But I don't know if you didn't get are fully like, I don't have anything from you. So basically so gutting.

But I don't know if you didn't get stuff from me. I got like weird stuff from you though, it was in a weird order. Weird stuff from you? Weird shit from you. Well anyway, we're here now. I won't even address the shit that I received from you. No, very normal but just like, I couldn't make sense of it. We're near the end of, well not near the end of December but I'm a bit gutted

that I've been ill in December really. It's a bit of a, it's really a lesson in like get over yourself, sometimes, yeah surrender, all of that bullshit. No it actually is. I hate to bring him up again but it's dobby. It is dobby, yeah sometimes things are. You're going to have to go in a car. Yeah you have to goby, yeah sometimes things are. You're going to have to go in a car. Yeah, you have to go in a flying car no less. You're going to have to go in a flying car, which most miracles aren't accustomed to seeing. No, most miracles aren't accustomed to seeing a flying car. What is it? The invisibility booster is broken.

Take my hand, I can't, they're all sweaty. Oh god it's so sweaty. That's gutting. Ouch. Don't kill me when I'm down. Ouch. So there we go. Yeah, that's the reason that there weren't three episodes in those places. I'm so sorry.

So hopefully you've been catching up on Podmas and hopefully you've been getting up to your own mischief. Your own life, your own hijinks and your own chaos, I'm sure. Have you been getting up to any mischief? Not mischief. I did do the thing that we spoke about earlier, I can't believe, I just feel like December's gone so quickly, but do you remember when I said I was going to an old ballroom to watch a Christmas film? Yes, oh my god I do, that took me a moment. Yes, I do remember that you're going to watch a Christmas film in our ball ballroom. yes i watched gremlins i've never

seen gremlins before. oh so you saw gremlins? yeah and it was really good. it's quite like um gory. it's very weird and also racist. there's one in a microwave. yeah there's people in the microwave there's people in a blender maybe? yeah no they get definitely the kitchen appliances kind of wreak some havoc i would say. you're quite like that woman. anyway if you haven't seen gremlins it's not really gonna make sense. the mum who kills everybody who kills all the things i can't remember. there's just like kind of a one like 90 second shot of this woman like throwing all these gremlins like in a blender and and stabbing it with a knife and throwing out the window. God I don't really remember this. It's kind of like wow, women in film, complex female characters.

God. So that was really really fun and it's made me have a new, Ozzy's had a haircut and it's given me a new appreciation for Ozzy being a little gremlin. Such a gremlin. Which I know he's always been a gremlin but I've never really been familiar with the gremlin game. Totally. So now I feel like I'm really immersed in the gremlin uh law. Yeah I haven't seen it in years. I used to be obsessed because I used to beg and beg and beg for Furby. This is an ad by BetterHelp. What's your perfect night?

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Do you remember that? I had a Furby, yeah. Oh, I had one. But like after, like I got, but it was really annoying. They gave me the baby version, which did less. Oh no, they gave me the baby version. They gave me that. It which did less. oh no they gave me the baby version. they gave me that it was like my christmas present like and i was a bit like this isn't really the one i wanted though. i remember once it must have been christmas where i had been begging for an avril

lavin cd. oh fun. and then when i opened it i was like oh no what song was it then? Oh, it would have been Skater Boy. I was like, oh no, Skater Boy's not on it. It must have been her newer album, yeah. That's dreadful. I was like, you've got me the new Avril Lavigne CD, which is very kind of you guys, but. But I don't want the new Avril Lavigne. But I didn't want it, and I got in big trouble,

which is fair enough, because I was obviously. Why did you get in trouble? Well, because I think I was like, being, I was like, I didn't want this one and it was like how dare you say that about president you know I mean so ever since then that I was probably like five or six and I learned like because now I do see children who I was always very like I was look I see kids these days who are getting up to no good and it does freak

me out like I think I was I have a weird preoccupation with being too good I think as a kid but yeah I think kids should be naughty like me too I think it's important and I think it's important for me to say this wasn't the CD that I wanted I think there's you know this yeah yeah totally that's important for this kid to be heard but But also I do think, I think having... Don't be a brat. Yeah, like... Definitely not. I think there's something about kindness and like consideration. Totally. Also having the awareness of that people have like gone out and bought that. Right. My dad burnt me the Avril Lavigne one. I wanted a Skaterboy single

and he didn't, he just like pirated it and then burned it onto a thing and he said draw your own front cover so I drew on A4 so I had like a CD of Avril Lavigne with like a picture that I'd drawn of her under a spotlight and like a crayon. That's really like the gift that keeps on giving it's like oh my god not only have you got your own Avril Lavigne CD but you get to design your own cover. I get to draw it and he gave me like a clear case for it but like it also kind of wasn't what I wanted. Yeah fair enough. Fun. I just spent my whole youth on limewire. What the hell is limewire? It was where you would it was like a little thing and you would download

music and stuff and I remember Yeah, kind of YouTube to mp3 That's what I was on. Kind of, like that bit was that bit before that. And I remember me and my cousin trying to download one of the Harry Potter's, it might have been Half Blood Prince, and we downloaded it as something, a file that said Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince, whatever it was downloading, downloading

on my computer at home in the living room. Like a huge computer. Yeah. Like oldest thing ever. Yeah. And it going through, going through. He was like, he's seven years older than me. So I was like a child and he was a teenager. Yeah.

Downloading, downloading this thing, press play. There's like two people, like man and a woman. And I was like, maybe it's the trailers. And he was like, um, there's a man and a woman just like walking around. He was like, no, no, no, this isn't it. This isn't it. And got rid of it. And I was like, no, it might be. I was like no it might be I was like it might be the film.

Like we should keep watching it and he was like no no it's definitely not that straight in the recycling bin. What was it? It was obviously porn now looking back I'm like oh. Oh my god. We like accidentally downloaded but it was just two people they were fully clothed and I remember them just like in a room. But I was like oh no it's probably like the trailers before the film or something and he was like no no no it's not it. Trust me. And he probably doesn't

remember that but it's weird that I do remember being like oh but we were so close to getting the film. I remember really being like. That's really upsetting. You know as a kid you know something has happened beyond your awareness. Yeah. It's like one day I will understand what that was. Yeah, and now I do. I do get it. Yeah.

That's really funny. Two people walking around. It's like, what the fuck is this? They were in a bedroom. They were in a room. I'm assuming the bedroom. Yeah, I'm assuming. It could be anywhere.

Okay. Have you bought any fun presents yes i have bought some fun presents but i'm so annoyed my sister like i so she bought um with my money a present for my brother for her sort of thing she was like can i just buy it with your money and i just am such like a i'm kind of like yeah, whatever even though I like I don't really know why But I just said yes, and she just you know sucker And then I also ordered something for her in that same order right arrived and she fucking opened it So I think she's seen it. She's lying and she's saying she hasn't seen it But I know she has but that at least means I know that she wants it that she's saying like she hasn't seen it but I know she has but that at least means I know that she wants it that she's saying like I haven't seen it I swear. What was it can I

ask? I don't want to say on the part. Why? Is it bad? Well no no no. God what have we bought that? Because before Christmas she might hear it. How's she gonna hear this? Her friends listen and shit. Well if you know, if you know Sefi's sister, keep her out shut. Okay, right, Emi, Ika, I'm speaking directly to you. They won't. If you're here, don't tell her. No, they won't. So me and my mum have gone halves getting her some trainers, some running trainers. Oh nice. And I've also got her a, this is just the sort of shit she wants, like a Juicy Couture underwear set that says Juicy all over it. That's fun. So I know she'll, it is like Diamante, like absolutely fucking bling bling. I saw some Juicy Couture underwear set that says Juicy all over it. So I know she'll, it is like Diamante, like absolutely fucking bling bling. I saw some Juicy Couture underwear the other day and I was like, oh it looks really, it

had the words like Diamante on it. It's that and it's very like, oh it looks fun. It's just like a bralette essentially, like it's not like a sexy bra. Oh nice. Like it's just like sporty essentially. I feel like she would really want it. She really loves like juicy cacioche also apparently you know what I'm getting I was gonna say I know what you're getting

then I thought I don't want to ruin it yeah she did message me and it's eating me alive the fact you know please can I have a hint no absolutely not why do you know what like could I just I can't tell you but I do know and it does feel good it feels really good like it cuz she was like I'm not sure it's a risk oh god well I bloody hope so cuz she's got me involved so I trust Lizzie's like knowledge of me yeah like I can't imagine you being like oh no okay this is very intriguing good I would love to know but I do love to know. But I do love to know. I love to be asked. She said I messaged Wing about it.

Yeah, she did. What, she said I messaged Erin about it? Yeah, Erin O'Reilly. She's not really on the link with me. Yeah. But I'm dying to know. That just really drove me nuts, thinking that you know. Well, there was a specific question that she asked. Oh, goodness me. Was it like...

I can't tell you. Oh, please give me something, something, anything. my lips are sealed. oh my god it actually kills me not knowing what i'm... this is what i mean by love presents. i'm glad you know that i was asked because i wanted to say i wanted to basically show off and be like i know i know but then i thought i don't want to do that behind like then lizzie has entrusted me with this information. no i know that you know. if i'm not allowed. okay that's good. that's nuts. Lizzie's entrusted me with this information. No I know that you know. If I'm not allowed. Okay that's good. It's fucking nuts. What was your reaction when she said I asked Erin? I was screaming please a hint. Just give me a hint. Just a small hint. So now I know. And I was like guessing like is it an experience or is it a thing like this is what I mean by getting a getting someone a present yeah Yeah, really nice Yeah, go ahead a little fucking juice sure thing. Whatever don't give a shit the thing I can find

I cannot cope what have you got her again a juicy control bra Fucking underwear thing and that's it and the trainers. Oh, yeah I'm just messing it up to what she's got you. Okay so it's not enough. That's quite a lot I would say. Yeah no no that is enough. Also she's bought all her presents with my fucking money. Has she bought your present with your money? No she hasn't bought that with my money.

I hope not. She's bought everyone else's presents with my money. Yeah. It's a good present. Yeah. Okay god I wanna know. And I'm also gonna give her This isn't like a Christmas present, but we got some given some new strainers recently. Oh, yeah, we did I'm wearing and I'm gonna give her my old GHDs, which is a big that's a big thing. I would say

That's a really big like not not for her to get but a big thing for me to give I've been thinking about sisters recently because I was briefly with my boyfriend's nieces. He has tons of nieces. They love Sol de Janeiro. And they love Sol de Janeiro. Yes, you know the ones. Yeah, they love Sol de Janeiro. And there was two of them basically that I was with the other day for probably like half

an hour. And it really, I wasn't having a very interesting thought I was more so just dwelling on sisters they're very close in age yeah quite close in age and I was thinking about you and Lizzie and I guess I know literally most people have sisters it's just quite nice I was thinking it would be nice to I would quite like if I was having kids have sisters close in age I would feel good about that. For sure.

Yeah. I personally, god I mean we used to literally attack each other still kind of still got major scars from the attacks that I received and also that I gave some major blows. I bet you did, yeah. But yeah no 100% like I think it really they're a nightmare for so long and then all of a sudden like I think it's really they're a nightmare for so long and then all of a sudden as soon as you get some space from them it's like right oh my god like it's really sweet it's just like a total although I do think we've got a very good relationship like I do know a lot of people that feel quite competitive

with their sisters which we do not feel like god I could I couldn't feel less competitive like it is fully fully 100% team vibes. Like, no doubt. Well, I often, if Sefi's going through anything, I'll say, thank god for Lizzy. No, genuinely thank god for Lizzy. I've literally sent that message multiple times. No, you really do, and genuinely thank god for Lizzy. Or, Sefi, if something will be happening, I'll be like, where's Lizzy?

So god damn true. I'll literally text saying, is Lizzy around? Because it's true, it's like, it's nice to know there's someone, you know, it's just like, oh that's your plus one, like there's someone around on your side giving, you know, extra support. It's just a hundred percent get it, just completely gets it. But also people get quite confused by our dynamics, like people often think that she's the boss. Older.

Well, people think that she calls the shots almost but because i told her that people think that she is the one with the power and she was like god they just don't know us at all so i'd like to have that validated that like look let's be real here there's an order to things. yes yes. it's a team but there's an order. we respect the order. let's respect the hierarchy of age. yeah yeah there's a hierarchy yeah there's an order. We respect the order. They should respect the hierarchy of age. Yeah, there is. There is a hierarchy. Yeah. Yeah.

Right, see you tomorrow. See you tomorrow. Welcome back to Podmas. Brief interlude. Because we're recording it right now. Yeah. But we're back to Podmas. We're back. Like we never left.

Genuinely. Hope everyone's caught up. Yeah. Hope everyone's having a fun December. Yeah. Hope you're well. I'm really excited for the new year. Right, anyway.

Me too. Let's talk about that. Yeah. Tomorrow. Yes. Okay. Perfect. new year, right? Anyway, me too. Let's talk about that. Yeah All right, see you tomorrow, I am very proud miss and a hurry new year This is an ad by BetterHelp What's your perfect night? Is it curling up on the couch for a cozy, peaceful night in? Therapy can feel a bit like that. Your comfort place where you replenish your energy. With BetterHelp, get matched with a therapist based on your needs entirely online. It's convenient and suited to your schedule. Find comfort this season with BetterHelp. Visit betterhelp.com today to get 10% off your first month. That's betterhelp.com.