Goes Without Saying - HORROR STORIES: his dad subscribed to my onlyfans...

Episode Date: October 30, 2024

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And he's a married man. I don't see a way. Do you see a way where that's doable? Yeah, if we kill him. I don't know whether it was they explicitly said they're a man or not, but it was an account that said I am a fortune teller. So immediately she's in. Immediately. Immediately. You know me. I love. I was obviously like, oh my god, like, I want to be a part of this.

I feel like I'm taking a few hits here. Like, we shouldn't have brought up my dad. I didn't need to do that. By name, I called him his name. Then I put my phone down and went over about my life. And then I came back and I texted the woman and said, why so serious? Hey. Hey! Hey! Oh so we're back for more. God are we. Back with a vengeance. For more horror stories. Genuinely, they were horrific. I don't think I had sort of anticipated how

unhinged they'd be. I sort of thought like oh they'll be like oh I think I like my uh fucking friend's brother like you know. They're actually like really weird. They're like deep and bad. Yeah they're deep and they're deeply deeply traumatizing experiences. This is always the thing that I say with the podcast though is that it's taught me like and it's kind of it's taught me the thing that everyone's been saying for like 10 years that everyone's going through something But it has to really think of like everyone's going through like weird things or also It's kind of like that's one way of saying it they're going through It's like doing it justice. Yeah, it's mental actually

It's kind of worse than going through something. It's it's not what it's like. They're weird. They're like quite surreal. It's very It's always something there's always something up. I mean, there's always something wrong So it's really and they'd be mulling around my mind like overnight I was sort of thinking about the famous X the ventriloquist dummy if you haven't listened to that yet go back It's a great episode when I was listening back. I was like, this is one of my favourite episodes ever. Really? I just really liked it. Oh my god.

Or to be honest, I really did like. We had, so I'd love to know everyone's thoughts on, what are your thoughts on the beginning bit where it's like a little preview of the episode where it's like, what? And then it goes into the episode. What are our thoughts on that? Should we discuss quickly on it? Well, I have always been quite anti that yeah anti those moments because I sometimes find them jarring and I always feel that people don't really

Understand them to me. They have kind of a Stephen Bartlett Yes, yes. Yeah king, but there's a tackiness. Totally kind of clickbait exclamation mark exclamation mark one time two vibes Yeah She lost how much weight? That sort of vibe. And then also I remember Louis Theroux used to have them on his old, old, old shows where it would cut to a weird bit in the middle, like at the very beginning.

And I remember watching that with probably like my mom and stuff and them being like, wait, are we halfway through? And it's been like, oh, they don't fucking understand like that format you know so I feel like I sometimes think maybe I just don't give people enough credit I sort of sometimes think people won't understand they'll be like have I skipped to the middle? Right I think I agree with you that I don't like them or there's a lot of things I don't like about it in theory but I think in practice it really works. Completely agree. Do you know what I mean? And that's what shocked me. Yeah like I think in theory it's like. Completely agree, and that's what shocked me. Yeah, like I think in theory it's like if I break it down it's like, oh it's tacky,

but then I'm like, oh we're tacky. It works so well for us to be tacky. I was surprised how much I liked it actually. What do you guys think? Yeah, I would love to know. Because you're the ones listening to this. Experiencing it. I think it's also nice to kind of hear the tone

of where an ep is going. And I think generally, outside of horror stories, when we come back to normal life and we're not spooky anymore, and we're not dramatic, I think when we do our normal intros, sometimes it's really hard for us to express where the ep is going and really set the tone.

And I think obviously that the intro is still important but like when you're literally hearing the chunks from the inside of the episode it does kind of settle you into what you're listening to beforehand. Yeah, well we had a conversation last night and I said it gets you smiling before the ep has even started And it's so true and I said well, I'm definitely smiling. It does make you smile. And then you said why so serious? Which was weird actually. And when I said that I thought are you gonna get where we're going with that?

I didn't see that for an hour. You said it gets me smiling then I said yeah well I'm definitely smiling then I put my phone down and went over about my life and then I came back and I texted her a wing that just said why so serious? I was really laughing when I sent that because basically I was gonna be like with smiling and then I was like oh it's like the joke like I was kind of like oh the Joker blah blah blah and then I just thought there's nothing else to say but why are you so serious? You want to see a magic trick? It's literally that. Anyway right we're back and the stories are horrible. We are so fucking back. Did you miss us?

I'm so happy about this. I'm so excited. Me too. I'm loving this. It feels like a bonanza I have to say. Oh my god boy does it. Elephant in the room. It's a bonanza. It really does feel like a bonanza. We just we did just record a take and then we got disrupted by my little sister bringing me tea and a bagel which was so cute. Really nice. She's so sweet. I'm in Portugal at the moment at my dad's and I'm in the caravan down the very bottom of the farm and I said can you bring me a tea and a bagel in about an hour's time and she brought it within about 50 minutes flat so I kind of have a coffee and tea and a bagel on the go. You bought it very promptly. It was okay so it's here. Stop the episode.

So I'm having it now. Bagels can't be cheesed. Sorry Wing you've kind of just got to watch me eat some bread. It was perfect. It was great. I love seeing you interact with her because she's so sweet. I love seeing you in big sister form even though you're always a big sister I guess. But like in terms of like your other siblings. But she's a child. But she's yeah she's she's a kid as she famously says. In her own words she says I'm a kid. I'm a kid. I asked her about the um I said what do you who do you want to win the US election I mean it's kind of a leading question isn't it?

She turned around and said Trump. So who do you wanna win the fucking US election? And she goes, don't ask me that, I'm a kid. And it's like so fucking true, you're a kid. I love that response, almost as if to say that is so disrespectful to ask a child of my size. Just let me be a kid for a bit, I'm gonna enjoy being a kid. I love that she has that awareness.

So true. Yeah. Me too. I think someone must have scared her of the adult world. So she's like, I'm a kid. I love that she has that awareness. So true. Yeah. Me too. I think someone must have scared her of the adult world so she's like I'm a kid. Well she yeah yeah. Which I guess. And she's the kid of the house. Oh my god she is so the kid. She's the kid of the house. She's a little 10 year old. She's just turned 10. Sweet. Yeah. Perfect. Cutie girl. Yeah. Alright well let's change up the time a little bit. Let's hear some on that note. On the most perfect angel note. Let's head into your horror stories. Okay, should I just go straight in?

I've been delving deep the DMs have been a crazy space recently because they're still full with Everything for these episodes. So I'm kind of I'm treading very lightly when I go into our Instagram DMs Genuine so dare I go dig it? Yeah, there were some ones that I've screen-shotted from the question box that are fucking crazy. Okay, so this person said... This one is quite crazy. Oh, actually should I do... do you want top or bottom first? And I don't know... well I'm just doing heads or tails now. Yeah, heads or tails.

Let's go top. Okay, it's's good choice. Okay. This person said I went to go meet my boyfriend's family And at first everything was great. His mom is very sweet But his dad was weirdly rude and uncomfortable the whole night He barely made eye contact and avoided me all night and at first I couldn't figure out why. No. Then it clicks. I recognise him. No! What is this? I hate this actually. It's like, you don't want to be recognising a dad and why do you recognise a dad? I'm quite scared of what's going on here. Whatever you're thinking I think it's not going to be that. Like it's...

I'm thinking she's fucked the dad. Although you wouldn't just recognise him, would you? I think I recognise him. I vaguely recognise you. I know you from somewhere. Okay, so it's kind of, I mean, you're kind of on the right track. Oh, this actually kills me.

Okay. Oh God. Then it clicks like I recognize him He has a very generic profile that I've never replied to but he's been subscribed and messaging my only fans This is what I've been months. I figured that what? What Oh God, okay. Okay. Dad wait, but she carries on Okay, his mom is very lovely and I feel extremely awkward as she obviously has no clue My boyfriend also is totally clueless and I don't know how I can bring it up. Especially since his this is crazy Especially since his dad's whole thing on my page is asking for footstuff, which my boyfriend has done multiple

times. okay i'm a bit speechless i didn't see that end bit coming. that the dad- that the- okay oh god. what? the boyfriend has also been asking for the same thing as the dad. okay so i apparently- footstuff is like the number one thing. foot- an intriguing feat. which does surprise me.

it does surprise me as well. and i- feet. but i have heard of it through the grapevine. like I've heard real-life people being like.. basically I had this one interaction with my friend where she was like oh he asked me to do this this and this. mmm. and I was like haha like feat and she was like yeah it's actually like the most common fetish ever and I was like alright. like I wasn't judging you. yeah no judgement. just always kind of hilarious. No judgement for any, literally anything. I'm just surprised feet. I wonder with the feet. I don't know enough about the psychology but my instinct is like is it because it's,

they're hidden a lot and they're like fingers but they're not. But not as hidden as a vagina, you know? Yeah, that's true. Like it's not as hidden as an arse or a boob. Yeah but it's kind of like fingers do you know what i mean? i don't know why i just started doing that. it is like fingers but it's a bit more like toes. feet. it's not very nice. it is like fingers if they were toes. but toes. okay so you're da- you're- of- i- yeah that's a bit of a yikes situation. i mean you've explicitly asked for advice and they haven't addressed it with the boyfriend

Which the problem here is I hate to be the negative Nancy of this. I Don't think that you can stay in this. Whoa I'd how the hell do you do that? What I don't like about it is I always think about life and narratives and I think we get attached to like ideas of things There's almost there's a benefit to this and also like it's really dangerous but I sometimes think- What's the benefit?

Well the benefit of being like I think it upholds standards sometimes. Like sometimes I use the narrative of like for example if you're dating it's like I wouldn't be with someone who does this. It's the narrative of that. Oh yeah yeah yeah. Do you know what I mean? And it just becomes like almost a bit of a rule. But then when the rules become really like suffocating and self-sabotaging, obviously it's a problem. I could see how you could get into the narrative of

I don't want to be with someone or I'm not supposed to be with someone where this is the first time I meet their parents. Whose dad has messaged a lot on my OnlyFans. The messaging takes it to a different level But also it's like how big is your only fans like what are the chances that his dad does change it If it's big no, no, it doesn't change it. No, it doesn't change it Well, it's obviously that's doable anymore. It's what I don't like. That's the grant. Okay, let's put this way

That's the grandfather of your children your children one day if you stay with this guy and you want to kiss it Blah blah blah fuck a room. That's not fucking doable But what do you do the poor boyfriend is gonna be devastated and the mum the bit that hooks me No, yeah, yeah, that's is the dynamic of you've come to meet your boyfriend's family or whatever You're sat you're having a lovely little dinner or whatever it's lovely roast dinner yummy yummy in my tummy you know I had a roast the other day and I did you yeah and when I remember when I said to you I'm I'm so excited for this roast and I think I've got put off roasts because I felt so nauseous and sick and I was taking

antacids like during the day and then when I went to sit down to eat it I was I could barely eat it, I could barely eat it. This never happens to me, guys. Okay, well that's devastating. I'm gonna go again. If you don't know this about Wing, it's her favourite food.

It really is my favourite food, but this is what I'm imagining, that you're all sitting down so peacefully to have your roast. I also don't like the thing of like, and this is so, I'm assuming you're English for this reason that the dad has been rude. And also you're eating a roast.

Well, they're not necessarily, but yeah.. Like- And also you're eating a roast. Well then not necessarily. This is rude, definitely English. I'm saying kind of you're in private drive and you're eating your roast and- And Vernon does is looking at your only fat ass. But him being rude feels- Oh my god that actually just scared me a bit. Like almost he can't acknowledge it, he can't go there and then he becomes- Do you know what I mean?

Like almost that discomfort gets projected as like he's now being rude and making you feel uncomfortable. yeah of course it will and it will come out.. his shame.. the one.. the thing you want to avoid is a man's shame. that is scary. it's dangerous. he will feel such shame around you now that i don't think it's that safe to be honest. i actually don't. like he views you as someone on the internet that you can pay to get content that he's going to like wank to. That's his son's girlfriend. Potentially if it goes well, I don't know what you want, wife, mother, all of these things. What? No, no, I think cut your losses. Oh but how do you? no. oh honestly that is actually a no from me. do you think?

it's such a shame because it's nothing to do with the boyfriend. it's a real person's relationship. look i'm just a girl with a boyfriend you don't know me i don't know you this is your life. yeah. for me if i'm in a situation where i'm sitting down for my roast dinner and private drive with a guy who I like. I'm considering that I like him, but like I'm not thinking he's like love of my freaking life. Like this is just like a boyfriend. And then it's like okay, so the dad has asked me for foot pics and what do you say to those multiple messages? He's been subscribed for months.

No, no, it's not doable. Oh! I don't see a way. do you see a way where that's doable? yeah. unless you have a conversation with the dad and he's really emotionally mature. because no but i like everyone else in the situation like the mum and the boyfriend and this person in the situation like it's like oh you guys are just prawns in the game. they are prawns in the game. i hate that it's almost like if we could just get rid of him as the issue which I know that's fucked up to say but like yeah, but you feel so bad for the mum

I don't know how the boyfriend handles this and I don't know what this person ultimately in this situation does you to me personally you would have to have a conversation say for example me and you with the boyfriend as well. Say it's like, right, it's a serious relationship you care about it's me and you what and I find out you're a dad no no no don't say those words and I find out that oars has been like my no no no no that's hideous don't say that to me

because that's like okay so how that immediately makes me feel is like so sad for my dad and so like, no, not like I need to protect you, like it makes me feel really sad for you, it makes me feel sad to be in between this. I can't, I hate that we've not brought up this example, but it makes me feel like such a deep sadness that I, yeah, maybe I don't know how you manage that. Or maybe you do tune into that, I feel like that is probably more positive and more maybe productive because it allows some empathy for the dad there. Which also I think is easy to be like fuck the dad like blah blah freak but actually when you're thinking about it

okay so he's he's a guy that is. And he's a married man. He look he that is a service that exists and I don't think I don't think I would be comfortable with someone using that service if I was with them or you know but if you want to you know if you can have some mature discussion about this why he has done that it does the mum know blah blah blah blah then things maybe get changed if he can like actually have a good conversation about it but I doubt that I do probably think it's like riddled in shame and like it's in the darkness and he views you as like this sort of yeah he's not viewing you as a person but if he can come around and be like oh my goodness i cannot believe i'm meeting you i've always admired your work. accept me please accept me please. no there's nowhere around it there is nowhere

around this. i also think the thing that i think plays into our favour here, you've obviously had conversations with your boyfriend about your only fans, he's obviously got some sort of relationship with it in his mind already, he's come to some sort of conclusion and so I feel like you're not starting from scratch in terms of you're not building this conversation from nothing, like I'm sure, I'm kind of imagining that there would have been some degree of like even a minor back and forth of like hey this is what i do or like hey i have this sort of thing or he's like hey i like you or whatever blah blah blah like there's there's been some at least acknowledgement on a minor level i would imagine from his part in this

patriarchy that he has decided i am up for the trials and tribulations that I feel like this is going to bring. But it has brought some major trials and tribulations. It's brought the family in. Yeah it's... oh fucking hell. It's the... And of no fault of hers. No of course not. Purely purely this is on the dad which is unfortunate. It's just on circumstances is not someone's gonna take it well the thing that puts it on the dad is what I don't love about it is like the dishonesty angle I don't love that the mum doesn't know or the mum is like clueless I think was the word that yeah that I don't like that to me that is okay so you've put your wife into a situation where that is some degree of betrayal that another young woman has entered the home you've put your wife like just i don't love that

situation i hate it also shall we take into account the i'm assuming generational age gap here yeah it's your son's girlfriend you are his dad with i don't't know you're a you're a middle-aged man I assume with a middle-aged wife whose son is bringing back his girlfriend why are you looking at young girls fucking profiles well it's this is a real it really is the epitome of like macro social issues boiling down into the family roast dinner yeah interpersonal relationships of a son and a boyfriend and a dad and a mother and a wife and a husband and all of these very real, tangible ways that we have to respond to. Like really big concepts of like, do you see me as human? Will you prioritize your

sexual desires over your relationship with your wife? Do you believe in trust in family? Do you see me as human? Actually just went right through me. Do you see me as human? Good fucking question. Well that's kind of what you raised. Do you see me as human? Yeah and I think good fucking question. Yeah, yeah. I'm glad I raised it.

It is a good question. It's a really really difficult situation. I would, I think there has to be a I love first of all that You've messaged us. It makes me feel it's quite an honor side. It really is I think that it goes without saying at this point. There's a conversation to be had with the boyfriend So but how the fuck do you bridge that to the I? To the boyfriend The right thing to do but I can imagine that in this situation, I would probably put the onus on the boyfriend

and be like, hey, I'm giving you this information and I'm not sure how you want to move forward with it, but I just wanted to talk about it with you. And you know, like it's your parents and it's your dad and it's your mom, but I just wanna make sure that we are okay. But then it's like, say that he's like, yeah like yeah okay I think I can move forward to it I've spoken to him but I was like okay actually take it back I don't know if I can move forward.

Well that's then the question. I don't know how I can do it then. How do you feel about it? Because you obviously- It's my body that he's been wanking over. Right but you've obviously come to some- you obviously have your own belief or like you have your own feelings about- you've already rational to some- you obviously have your own belief or like you have your own feelings about- you've already rationalized in your head all sorts of people subscribing to your

content. that's something you have dealt with and are dealing with all the time actively. but they're also abstract people that you will never meet. yeah but when you're confronted with one and confronted with one in this with one and confronted with one in this like to a degree so intimate. strange dynamic. is very very it brings up a lot of questions. whoa okay so i yeah i actually don't particularly know what you should do because i'm fucking nuts like there's no way around it that is obviously a mess. but how was the roast? how was the dinner? hope you had a great time. hope there was fun to be had. i just will raise this one question. how worth it is this guy? like how worth it... actually play through the life that you want with him or whatever you're going through. i do think your kids grandfather bit

like is a great sort of... yeah but then imagine it was me. but it's not. how worth it if it was me? I think the sexual dynamic. Okay, but if we had- I think the sexual dynamic changes it. Okay, but if we had a sexual dynamic then. Say we're together. I would have to ask myself, how worth it is this? Okay, and how worth it is it? Do you love me? But what is it?

Like, it has to be- Would you still love me if I was your boyfriend and we were in a sexual relationship and my dad subscribed to your OnlyFans? And we're having roast dinner and your dad's to your only fans. And we're having roast dinner and your dad's be like, oh my only fans. And also you're also asking for the same things as Hit.

Oh, I mean we haven't even gone there. That is so um euphoria. It is. It is. It is literally Jacob Elordi. It's horrific. Which I love to bring up. And that is probably one of the worst.

He is horrific in that show. It is so bad. I don't know. I actually don't know. I think if this was me in the situation I would have to be really asking myself okay the future has changed now this situation has changed yeah and i don't know how worth it is for me to go further down this fucking line if it is worth it if you genuinely think this is the fucking love of my life and i want to make this work blah blah blah blah which

i'm sure you do to be honest because we all do in those situations but I think it's time to like get the friends involved like I think you need a gang around you here. One million percent I think this is not an issue for the you need a lot of conversations about this in my opinion. I always think like is there like a helpline? I guess there are a lot that you can go because actually like yeah I just hurt kind of have the fear that it's like if you say to the book like the boyfriend and the dad if they speak about this I feel like it's the sort of thing that they could quite easily well I didn't know like I feel like it's a sort of thing that they could easily have one kind of awkward conversation about it like we dealt with it now it's under the brush in the carpet now we're gonna ignore it that

isn't quite personally what i would be needing. i'm going to need to- i am gonna need to talk to the fucking dad. i- really? and say what? i think so. and just say like this is so strange, right? like are we gonna- if i'm gonna choose to continue this with your son, i can't have this in the dark. you're a stronger woman than i am. it's mental! you cannot be eating roast dinner with this not- with this major elephant in the room forever if not. The thing that I don't like is I would more want a relationship if that- if I knew that- if basically if this moved on to everybody knowing and everybody having their own little conversations about it. I, as the girlfriend, would want to have a conversation with the mum and the wife.

Big fucking time. That would be- I would rather talk to her than the dad. Like I almost think the dad, I know what you've done and I know big fucking time. I would rather talk to her than the dad like I almost think the dad I know what you've done and I know this and whatever I can I almost I don't know how much more I need to hear from you but I my first thing would be like I don't want this woman to hate me I don't want this woman to like view me as anything other than totally just like this girl who showed up at her house sort of thing do you know what I mean like Like I'm not here to. Be competition.

Yeah, I'm not creating a sexual dynamic with my husband. I'm no threat. I'm not interested. I do think it's an interesting or like an important, I think it would make a difference of like how big the OnlyFans is. If you're like a big deal on OnlyFans, good for you. And it feels, it's less alarming to me

because if you're just like. Yeah, he's not scouring through. Yeah, it's less alarming to me because if you're just like, yeah, he's not scouring through. Yeah. It's like, how has he got here? That is so crazy. Like it's almost like, where else is he? Like, is this something like how, what? Like, oh God. And I do, I think it also does raise the major question of your safety of like, you were someone that he has wanked to over a screen suddenly he has access to you in the living room in the car giving you a lift home whatever all of these things i don't know how good how well i would try i don't know if i'd be able really to trust a man to make the jump between like fantasy and reality when they already

view you as a sexual object i don't know if I trust him to be able to make that distinction. My first thing that I would do before I message Stephanie Woon, before I do anything, before I even think about it for another second, and I'm sure you've done this but I would love to know, is I would, and I don't know how OnlyFans works so I don't know what the back end haha of OnlyFans looks like. I don't't know what the back end of OnlyFans looks like. I don't really know what the front end looks like. No, but I would love, it's funny, but I would love to know, I'm sure you can see if he still

has access to it or if he has since unsubscribed, I would imagine that he has unsubscribed, the normal thing to do. But if he hasn't... he's that nude his subscription He's gone up a tear or whatever. Yeah, that adds another after the roast dinner. You saw that he watched your no No, no, no, no video. Well, I'm assuming he's not messaged again I kind of am taking it as he was rude at the dinner or whatever. He was a bit awkward I think he's got cold feet and he's he's like's gone cold on her, he's given her the cold shoulder. Oh god. I actually don't know what the fuck you're doing this, I'm so sorry.

And again, this is real catastrophizing but I would also, I think where my mind would go, shit I need to put my laptop on charge at some point, I think where my mind would go would be like, I'm assuming like, oh fuck. What? Just things popping up. Battery. It's like, yeah I heard you the first time. yeah. I think where my mind would go would be like what if he tries to deny it?

and then I see mental. oh my god and like I don't know that kind of does feel like an option here. for him totally. well and then to be like she'll tell the boyfriend I don't know like maybe we watch too many fucking films but like the way I kind of see that playing out is like he, you tell the boyfriend in that time he's had time to erase the evidence, the boyfriend's like oh my god why the fuck you trying to cause a rift between me and my dad. Well that's the worst case scenario. Do you know, but I'm getting good vibes from everyone. But that didn't happen, that is completely...

It's not inherently, I think there's more... Okay I think maybe... Yeah no go on. Oh no go on, I was gonna be like I think getting good vibes from everyone. That didn't happen. That is completely... It's not inherently... Okay, I think I think maybe... Yeah, no go on. Oh, no go on. I was gonna be like, I think we're done with that. Oh, I was gonna say I think... But you say we've got more. I think there's more conversation to be had. It's quite funny. I think there's more conversation to be had. I think we're done here. I think we're done. I think we've exhausted that one. I more so mean I think there's more conversation to be had between this person and the other people in the situation Before just calling it because even if you call even if you say I think you're gonna have to give reason of light He's like why like everything's so great and you're like, you know

You have to tell you have to talk to the boyfriend like I think it's to me What makes it an over situation is that I'm kind of playing through the events of what I predict will happen here but I think it's like talk to the boyfriend, see how he wants to deal with that, hopefully it's more than just a fucking brush under the rug situation, then I want to speak to the dad, see if I can sit opposite him at the table and like live my life with him involved in it. And yeah then I want to speak to the mum and then I want to speak to all of my friends and then I want to journal about it and see how I feel about this shit. Yeah, it's a lot, isn't it?

It's so much. It's so fucking much to deal with and then be like, okay, so I'm going to continue within this dynamic. I just think it's so much. I don't know if I'm would be capable of that. I do think one thing I would love to go into, just because you gave it to us, the thing about the feet, I have nothing insightful to say other than just like, huh, weird. Lovely, weird little observation of human kind of humankind. And I do, I think I've seen that there is research that like sexual tastes and kinks and stuff are genetic or some of it is like biologically it is very interesting also it makes sense doesn't it like if you share DNA

with these people you are gonna pick up I don't know like how much like kinks are like a socialized thing rather than like a biological thing but it makes sense for you to find different this makes sense for you to find the same thing yeah pleasurable as your parents which is actually also quite horrifying thought let's all just take home and I like we shouldn't have brought up my dad. I didn't need to do that. By name, I called him his name. Oh, fuck my life. Absolutely horrifying.

It's crazy actually. Well, there's something that I am sort of thinking of, which I told you recently, I actually told you and your boyfriend this recently. And it was the first time I've thought about it since being a kid, because it kind of wasn't a thing, but it relates to the foot thing so much. Yeah, go on. I've thought about it since Kid because it kind of wasn't a thing but it relates to the foot thing so much Yeah, go on have you thought about this since because it is bizarre thinking about it

And I think I think we brought it up without me and my boyfriend then brought it up after I haven't thought about it We're walking through the pavilion and I think just the general ambience of the kind of... That's where we were. Yeah, just like, oh is that where we were? We were in the pavilion and I was like, guys I've just remembered something really weird. Yeah, well then I think me and my boyfriend were walking through the pavilion like another time and it must have triggered the memory of you telling us. Yeah.

And I think I said to him like, maybe he even said it like, it's a bit harrowing, isn't it? Honestly, I don't know. So go on, take it away. I think I said to him like maybe he even said it like it's a bit harrowing isn't it? Honestly, I don't know. Well it was just I guess we were talking about like foot fetishes and stuff And I just had this weird memory of being a child Really young right? Like really young and I'd probably posted like some video of me like doing my hair or something like that like sort of You know like it's some kid like posting some dumb video on YouTube. Oh, it says connection unstable. Oh you're back connection is unstable Fucking hell let me just okay this place up a little bit just for recording okay Right. Yes, go on. Sorry with your story. Wait, so we just had a whole thing. We thought we'd lost that whole app Okay, should we say that? yeah right. well because the end of that story is like us being

like wait you're going ah. well i was just gonna cut that all out and then just get you to do your story. okay well i was getting quite scared that we would have to end it there and then somehow like almost in an hour we'll start up again you'll be like right continue the story it's like now it's weird like now it's like bizarre. it was so bad guys i was literally just in like brain surgery it felt like basically we nearly just lost the video footage and the audio footage all in one go. terrible. and it actually took 15 minutes it was so slow coming back together. so now we're working back up into the energy we were in. but it feels okay. i just feel really shaken up actually, it's really gone through me. Oh god, well congrats.

I can handle it. Yes, congratulations. Congrats for sorting it, thank you so much. And this is quite a shaking story that you're about to tell. Well the thing is I actually don't feel shaken by it at all because it's obviously just like a weird thing. Yeah. I was completely safe and I had my wits about me to a certain extent

also I was in me as words I was a kid and I did not know what was happening here yeah so yeah I'd like I was on YouTube or whatever like internet safety was kind of not that much of a thing maybe when we were younger like I don't know there wasn't like YouTube kids for example you're just on YouTube on YouTube you know like blah blah blah whether I was allowed to be there or not I cannot recall. I got a message from an account this guy I'd uploaded some sort of video of me like I don't know what I was doing probably doing my hair or I have no memory of that bit so I don't know what I had actually uploaded or whether I'd just been like commenting on some other girls thing being like love your new skirt from Primark love sort of thing. I don't know what I'd done but I had made it clear that I was a

kid somehow on YouTube, a young girl, and I got a message from I don't know whether it was they explicitly said they're a man or not, but it was an account that said, I am a fortune teller. Immediately she's in. Immediately. You know me. I love, I was obviously like, oh my God, I want to be a part of this. They said, I'm a fortune teller and I can tell your fortune by looking at the soles of your feet. Okay, we all know where we're going with this. So if you send me a video of you sitting down like wiggling your toes and like moving your feet around, I can tell you your future. And I was, I probably didn't think about it for more than one second and I thought oh my god stop the fucking

webcam and filmed a little video of me sitting there wiggling my toes around and sent it to this account. Never heard anything back. Got a message from someone else, which I think was a woman, being like, hey, I saw you've got a comment from this guy saying, send me this video of your feet. I just want to let you know that is a paedophile that is like someone that has been getting young girls to send photos of their feet just so you know just to warn you and I deleted the video whatever because I think I'd like put it on a private I don't know what I done maybe a video response I don't remember what YouTube looked like at the time there were video responses that's probably what I'd done. Maybe a video response? I don't really remember what YouTube looked like at the time. Do you remember when in 2007 there were video responses? That's probably what I did then. I probably video-response'd. So you probably put a video up, he commented on the video. Yeah and then I had video-response'd, probably, response to him saying,

with a video of me wiggling my toes. So there might be on the internet a video of a child version of me wiggling my feet around but I then literally I don't think I ever felt like... because feet really do mean nothing to me. It wasn't like okay I've showed my boobs to a paedophile would have been very gutted but I remember thinking like oh god okay so there's like a weird guy that has a video of my feet whatever. I think I probably didn't really know what foot fetish was either just like why would you want a video of my feet whatever. I think I probably didn't really know what foot fetish was either just like why would you want a video of my like probably literally grubby feet and that was it and then I kind of forgot all about it and then when we're walking through the pavilion a few months ago I was like guys I remember the weirdest thing. Yeah why did that come to mind then? I can't

remember. I have no idea. I remember coming to my mind being like that is fucking mental. Why were we doing that? Why were we doing that? Why were we doing that? Had we just been for lunch? Like breakfast? Oh probably. And where did we go? Were we going to balcony? Did we go to balcony? Yeah, we did. We went somewhere else. We've been to the balcony once but then the three of us didn't we go for breakfast somewhere? We didn't go to balcony for breakfast. I think we did and we sat in the booth. So you're gonna really... It's a funny response. Yeah, we sat in the booth. You tell that story and I go, yeah, and where are we going?

Were we at balcony for breakfast? It's like not relevant. I mean, genuinely, where were we though? I think it was balcony. Yeah. Kenny's a son. And then I told some other horror stories about somewhere else that I know. Yeah, you did.

And that went down an absolute storm. It really, he really loved that. It always does. That story that I have, which I won't tell on the podcast, I'm so sorry. Out of respect. I have this one story that is the absolute gift that keeps giving. I was telling it the other day to a crowd. Is it real crowd pleaser?

It is. It really does. It has twists and turns and everything. I think because it makes everyone feel quite good about themselves. Like by contrast, you end up feeling really kind of successful and on it by hearing about this harrowing thing. Well not harrowing but it's sad. No yeah and it's all from their own choices but it is a real confidence boost for people. I think that's the thing that comes across and you can, I also think you feed off of the energy and the thrill that you have when telling it. I honestly.

It's great. Because I really like, oh god it's such a good one but I can't. There's nothing like a good story. Truly. And but the foot fetish one isn't that good of a story but it's just also such a a weird memory. Well, it's a bit difficult because I think it should be received with care, but then I think in saying that, Really? Yeah, then I think in saying that, that then in turn makes you probably feel uncomfortable because it's like, Oh, should I feel bad about this thing that happened? I don't want to encourage that sort of thing.

No, I don't think it does make me feel like, I genuinely, like I actually genuinely don't. Like I feel like I've lived through- Well, I think've lived through young and you've not really thought about it I mean I'm traumatized about so many other things like almost me sending a video of my grubby old feet as a ten-year-old it really is so low down my list yeah but it does it does frustrate me and it does anger me obviously and I know it does you know it's mental it's absolutely insane yeah I just wanted to I feel like people, because it happened to you, you can just say whatever, but I feel like I don't want people to listen and then be like, we didn't give a shit that this happened or whatever. I do actually really give a shit. I just, A, I'm

trying to not make Sophie feel like it's oh my god, crazy. Like, do you know what I mean? It's kind of not my place to be like, if this was just a story that I'd heard, obviously we'd do a 15 minute tangent about how fucked pedophiles are on the internet and all the safety and all of that stuff. I think it goes that way. I have a 10 year old in my life. Yeah. You know? Like if that had happened to her, I'd be fuming.

Yes. But I also, it has the kind of... You've got your own relationship to it. It has the balm of the internet behind it. Of like, I was completely safe, all of of the stuff it also is so wrong and speaks to so much crazy shit like can I say something that is fucked up yeah I don't think you are completely safe obviously you were physically like fine in your house but that situation isn't safe totally because also if he had said the damage is done do you want to do a video call yeah or just even what he did is enough

for it to be unsafe for a child. You shouldn't have been in that situation, that's all. That's my one thing I want to get across. No, definitely not, definitely not. And it is mental. Also, I feel like it's the sort of thing where when you're a kid, your biggest fear is pedophiles. They're your biggest fucking thing.

It's like, okay, there are strangers. It's child snatcher strangers I always say but it's apparently childcatcher they're child catchers and people that are like out to hurt children I feel like you get told the whispers of these things you don't know what they mean they are I don't know me as a kid that was personally a huge fear I assume that is a huge fear for every child it I think the shock that I had in my memory of not, of being so scared and I feel like very vigilant to this thing and yet still being caught out at what looks like

now a very easy thing, I think that was my shock of like, oh I feel like I'm someone that is- I'm not naive to these things. Smart with this stuff. I don't talk to strangers, I blah blah blah blah. I'm very, my mum has trained me well with this thing, with this thing. And then it's like, oh actually on the internet, it's a space that really at that time couldn't really have been prepared for in the way that we had access to it. No, and still now. Weirdly I think it's worse now.

Oh go on. Like I think, well I think it's worse for kids on the internet now than it was back then. I think it is in a social way, in the way that everyone has it., I think it's worse for kids on the internet now than it was back then. I think it is in a social way and the way that everyone has it. I probably think it was more dangerous when it's in the dark, but now everyone has so, so, so much access to it now that it's a completely different space in a way.

I kind of feel like it's the opposite. I feel like when it started, it was so new that all of the parents were like, oh, I don't want my kid on there sort of thing Oh, there's gonna be weird. Yeah internet and now it's just like I'll just shut my kid up with my phone or whatever Which I had do you know what? I mean, and I think it's so like kids have their own tick tock, but they're making videos constantly Would that is the whole industry from children? Yeah,, like, I think it's so much bigger now,

and I actually think when it was- It's so much bigger, but I think there's so much more light on it now. Yeah, but I think not in the right way, like almost we talk about it really abstract, of like really vaguely of like, oh, and be careful on the internet, but here you go, sit on the internet all day,

sort of thing, and it's like, I think there's not much, I don't know. Do you know what do you know I mean I don't think I do I think it's really I think it's scarier now to me because it just feels more prevalent like it's everywhere sort of thing it's more chance like statistically it's a higher risk to be honest it's like I've seen the videos that kids post on the internet and yeah it's not necessarily them wiggling their feet or like it's not something like that it will be like it's kind of pageant kid they're doing sexy dances on the internet like it is pretty crazy some of the shit

that I've seen just almost like the normalization of a 10 year old or like to be honest I've seen so much younger like seven-year-olds posting like dances on the internet that's not very normal that to me is so much oh i don't know what's so much worse but like it is so normalization of it is so bad yeah yeah i it ties back into this situation as well just with the idea of like sexual content on the internet i feel like generally has raised so many questions that we're not necessarily prepared to be able to answer as a Society and like as people with our identity in ourselves, like how will I be perceived on the internet? Whatever or like in our relationships. How does this affect others?

What's my relationship to me being in a relationship with you and you either making porn or consuming porn or my dad? Whatever My goodness me guys porn or consuming porn or my dad whatever blah blah blah blah. oh my goodness me guys. it's so complex and nuanced and i think largely the thing that is difficult is we've added in like we haven't added this to a perfect world like the internet could be so cool whatever but we've added it to like a place that is we've added it for example to the patriarchy so in lots of ways it will uphold the patriarchy. we've added it on top of all of the shit. yeah. and it just enhances all of those things. like there's new ways for your boyfriend's dad to violate you

if he wants or you know things like that. and the internet would be so cool if it existed in a void away from all of the structures that exist but it does go on top of racism, sexism, classism, all of the fucking isms. it goes on top of all of them and to be honest those things obviously just rise to the forefront. yeah, eek. it's not a great thing. it's like it would be amazing amazing amazing if it existed in a void. oh my god it would be great if it was just us basically. Yeah. It would still be kind of weird but I'd like it. It's like yeah it's people on there and people are crazy. Yeah people. Stay safe on the internet guys. Yes. And to be honest this I want to give this girl advice but I know that there is nothing. I would love to know what

everyone else would do in this situation please that's my biggest call. Genuinely like I am a bit stumped by it. We'll have to do like question boxes on the stories for these situations I feel like. Yeah should we post some today for the you know. Yeah because I would love to know. Like Pals what would you do? Yeah because we obviously haven't got a fucking clue. Because our brains aren't enough for this. It's like this is why it's like you need a group around you for this. You do. And also you need to yeah you need to then be happy with whatever decision you come to. i think it's so personal that everyone will have something that feels more right for them. totally. and also it's your relationship, you know this guy. and that's why so much

of it comes down to is he worth it. because on the surface of this, with all feelings detached, the best thing to do here is to leave the situation. then isn't it really annoying that this thing that was so out of both of your control has ruined your relationship or that has caused a spanner in the world? It depends how good that relationship is. It's like to me that is, the situation has changed. Exactly, yeah, but through no fault of your own. The situation has completely changed.

Which I find really frustrating, like I almost think if my relationship was going to end I would want it to be like for good reason. I would want it to be like something bad has happened, like we've done something, rather than like some kind of third party has created a situation for us, do you know what I mean? Yeah. It feels really, it's just a really unfair difficult situation I think. But then it depends on how people deal with it, but that is my biggest thing of like the situation can exist, but it does it now it's kind of calling in a huge amount of like understanding and possibly even like loyalty from your boyfriend to be like I can empathize in a bigger way than just like oh yeah so your my dad looks at your OnlyFans oh that's awkward and funny ha ha ha and like thinking about actually

what that might mean for you to have to sit opposite him at the table and go to his house and all of that stuff. I feel like it's asking some big, I suppose bare minimum, but also big things from a man and can he live up to it. And it's asking big questions, yeah, it's confronting for you as well of like can you move forward, how? Yeah. Okay. Cool, well we'll find out before we won't but I would love love to i would love to find out if you if you have an update please like literally i'm begging you please and i hope you think we've handled this with care i hope so we're always trying to handle with care trying to but also trying and failing i will say yikes and i'm sure you're thinking yikes it is a yikes it's a big

yikes yeah it's insane it's a horror story. It is a horror story. Did we come up with something to end it? We did but let's not do it. We did the whole like, it's chapter, whatever, blah blah blah. You're closing the chapter two and we'll see you in chapter three. Three tomorrow, the end of the trilogy. Oh God, it's the final episode tomorrow.

Yeah, all right. That's the problem with the trilogy it begins and it ends so quickly. Well yeah we do end on a you end on a good note don't you? Yeah you do. I keep wanting more. I'm freaking loving this I'm just gonna say. Yeah same. Okay cool right well if you don't hear from us. Assume the worst. Stunning. Want to go all out? Chase down your goals with 20 to 45 minute tread workouts. No matter your goals or time, Peloton has everything you need to become everything you want. Find your push, find your power. Peloton. Visit OnePeloton.ca