Goes Without Saying - off the record: IRL incels, youtube nostalgia, & middle-class breakfast cereals

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

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There's some sort of clicking going on. Is it your earrings? Probably. What about now? Now that I'm really still. Yeah, that's better. If you stay still. It was a real click-clack. Well, I wonder if you're getting... Wait, shake your head? Yeah, it's them. But are you getting my... You're not getting my divine sounds then, are you are? No, you're getting my... I don't know.

You're getting my AirPod sounds. Oh, that's why they're clicking around. Bang, bang, bang. Boom, boom, around. Bang bang bang. That's better. That sound better. Right now shake your head. You can still hear them but not as bad. Not as bad. I was gonna say I normally keep them on. Yeah, so that, yeah, okay, so I was getting your airpods out. It's the airpods sound, yeah it does. Because normally when I'm sending voice notes when I'm like out and about when I'm walking down the street. I also, I think I have a bit of a bouncy walk. I've definitely been told that I'm a bit like...

Of a bouncer? Yeah. I'll have to look out for it but I don't know. It goes dang dang dang dang dang you know. A bouncy walk. I think I swing my arms a bit too much when I walk. Oh I think you walk perfectly. Well I think you walk perfectly. Can I actually say I was thinking about you earlier and I actually brought a bit of a

tear to my eye. This is really weird. This really shows that I just think too much because there was no reason why I should be doing this. I have also literally said this explicitly on the podcast before. But I have to honor the moment that I did think of it earlier and it did literally conjure some tears and I thought don't even go there. What the hell is this? When we were walking in those fields where you're from. Oh my god. That I like stung myself with stinging letter and then picked up a dockleaf. Dockleaf yeah I couldn't remember the word. That is not tear worthy. No it was tear worthy because I was thinking you knew all the names of

the berries and you knew like all the animals and stuff And it was just... It was like sheep Cows It's actually farmyard animals Yeah, that's a chicken But it's so special and I was really thinking like it's so like I don't know that is really it feels very like a pure version Of you it feels like that's who you are in your essence as a child almost Almost when you're a child, people say poppy, poppy, poppy. The skirt or poppy. You.

Me. In those times, I'm like, oh, I'm getting to know poppy. I think that is so funny. So then this morning I thought about it, it came to mind. Then I started reflecting on you with the nettles and I forgot about what it was called dockleaf and I thought you'd know it instantly. And I went through this whole thing this morning. You'd know it instantly the name of that chicken. The name of that sheep.

It's a bit um, what do they call it? A feet? It's a bit am I aerial? Like I actually don't know how to let you live on planet earth. She has a stinging hairbrush. A stinging hairbrush. a stinging nettle. but it is true. it's really a pure.. it's just.. i don't know why i brought that up but anyway i was thinking

that about you this morning. well no i love that. i think people that live kind of in a bit more of a naturey place will get that. like it's not even that naturey. it's just like a basic fucking town. it's so naturey i am i. i mean it is but also we went for a really nice walk. we did, i had a great time. whereas if we walked the other way, you're not going into such nice territory. well i wanna walk the other way, why do you never take me the other way then? what are you hiding from me in the town? well what, you wanna go along the main road? yeah i do actually, because i think i've only seen that high street at night. you have, we went to the pub that I used to work at for my birthday once. And for my real birthday this was just my second birthday.

Yeah, yeah. But yeah, we should walk it. But it's literally just like an A road. I don't think it is an A road. It's just like a fucking road. An A road? Isn't that like an A road? It's like a motorway.

It's not an A road. It's not an A road at all. It's like a really quiet road. Right. So you know what farmyard animals are called but you think any road with cars on it, that must be a motorway. Anything that isn't like a horse drawn carriage, little tracks in soil. Yeah, it's not got a plough going down it.

That must be an A road. It's not an A road at all it's like a tiny very very quiet high street but it's the main road. Right well I can't wait to see it. It's not required but it's 20 miles per hour for example so it's got to be quite yeah definitely not an A road. Bloody hell well anyway why did I bring that up then? Bit weird. I don't know, you just would decide to be nice. Well I was being a bit mean earlier. Not about Sefi. No, you weren't being mean. About someone I went to school with so it's not relevant. You can't say their name so don't.

No I won't. But it was funny. Just gonna stop you there? It was really funny. And we were also being a bit mean about someone. No! We're gone. Let me hear it. That I've met recently. Oh yeah well that- no offence they freaking deserve it. I hate his guts. Oh god I wasn't going to do the other one. Jesus what did you take me for? I hate his guts.

There's just- well no they're not hateable. Take his bones- grind his bones to make my bread. Grind bread? Genuinely? I actually would grind his bones to make my bread. Grind his bones? I actually would grind his bones to make my bread and I'd be laughing the whole time. Well also this is making it sound like they've done something wrong. They actually have. But like not in a fun way. I almost think you're making it sound like it's almost like I've dated them and something's gone a bit wrong. It's not a dating situation. Well that would be fun, that would be way hotter than what this is.

This is almost, it's a bit misogyny, it's a bit incel I think. Okay there's a recent, actually a recent combo we won't get into and nobody asked about it but I've seen it a lot about like misogyny amongst gay men. So I'll just, I'll just like let that, just leave that there. Well that's what it is, I'll put it out there. That sounds pretty on no-sore. That's definitely it. That must be it. I wouldn't even say it's misogyny. It's just... No, I think it is misogyny and I'll tell you why and I'm raising my finger and I've just sat up. But without saying anything you mustn't say anything that could be decoded. I would never. I would never. Sometimes I think and I'm sure you've all experienced this if you're a young woman, you've probably experienced at some point Being undermined and like when you think about it kind of feels like they're just undermining you because you're a girl

Maybe hate to say it force my hand and call you a misogynist, but you've left me no choice Sometimes it feels like yeah, you're undermining me You think maybe I'm not gonna be as intelligent as you or you think that my opinions aren't as valid as yours. Things like that. You have a preconceived notion of me based on how I am existing, how I'm looking to you as a young woman. Maybe. That could be that. So? Could be that. It could be that. It could be that. We'll get on the case guys and we'll get back to you. It could be that. it could be that. we'll get on the case guys and we'll get back to you. it could be that.

one day we'll tell you about it and if you ever see us in real life ask us about... ask us to tell the story of... is it about skate camp? just keep asking us about skate camp. no but what could be the code for this? but what are we obviously gonna... about the gay incel. sorry i'm getting scared. what could we say about this? it's such an underwhelming story. No, it isn't. You've just lived it, so you think it's not that interesting, but trust me, it's been so-

Guys, I'm gonna be real. My life at the moment is mental. It's absolutely insane. I wish there was more you could say. I feel like, I can't say much. Can't say a peep. I've been in Orange for two weeks and Jesus Christ. that's crazy. how insane is that? two weeks? just over two weeks. it actually feels like two years.

but also probably just exactly two weeks because I was in fucking Brighton and London for three nights. so it literally feels like you've been in Orange for six months. because I cannot even tell you the characters. all the things that have happened. The stuff that has happened. Like I feel like every single time I so I could speak to you Yeah at four o'clock and but I'm gonna tell you everything that's happened and then I speak to you again at 4.30 And I'm like I need to have an update. Who's everything that's fucking happened. No literally literally and this morning I really love that you did this for me. I mess I woke up and I well know I didn't wake up, well I did wake up, but like hours prior. But I messaged Stephanie and I was like, well we were kind of just in a convo and I was

like, can you also, if you wouldn't mind, send a voice note, like, just spoil me with some like, you know, really go there, give me all the updates. And you sent an 11 minute voice note and in it you were like, I'm so sorry I'm going on and on and I was like, this is is exactly what I wanted like a mini podcast. So much I feel like every angle of my life right now has so much crazy shit in it and genuinely the second I can I will be saying this on the podcast like I genuinely have to like. And what will be that second though? when you're given the end clip? when you're out of a certain situation? when i'm out of a certain situation and in the clip there. in the clip! jesus christ! i might use some codenames but i will be

talking about some things here because this is nuts. we'll have to do a full debrief. like i genuinely... Genuinely, God, it's absolutely barking of math. It was crazy. Like, I can't even really put it into words. Just like, if you, it's so mental that it's so unrecognizable, some of this stuff, that I, when I first got here, I was like, can I do this? Like, I was actually sort of having a bit of crisis of like, right, this is actually so insane.

And now that I am settled, now it's been two weeks, I really love the course, really like the city, brackets, my house is fucking nuts guys, like it's actually insane. And God, I have to tell, I have to tell the world about some of this. It's really been the kind of thing where every tiny thing that happens, you'll always always you'll talk about it and you'll be like is that weird like am i just being dramatic or something and every time i'm like no like that is fucking mental. i genuinely do feel a bit um gaslit like to be honest to use that word of like this stuff is really weird yeah but almost being the only one that finds it weird or not the only one there's there's some other people i've got some allies here, within the house. But bloody hell, it's actually so, so strange.

It's genuinely a comedy that I live in. It is actually, and some of it is too much. You actually couldn't write that in a comedy. You get laughed at all the time. No, no, you wouldn't. You'd be like, that is a bit on the nose. A a little bit you're pushing your luck now. Oh god. It's crazy But so yeah, it's it's a bit chaotic times at the moment like I'm loving it but hating certain elements like it's just yeah very It's really mental like that's all I can say the good thing though as well so many good things But one of the good things that I was saying is like At least you're happy in your course and the city those two things are not changing. Exactly yeah and I've got some people now like I have a little mini social circle it's really nice. Yeah that's really good. And that's great.

I just would love to move. Yeah yeah okay fair enough. Like so much like beyond anything yeah well if there's any leads if anyone knows of anything if you have anything going guys if anyone in the local area can help her out absolutely absurd no i it's it's it's it's fine as well like it actually is yeah do you know what do you know what the thing is it could be so stunning i think that's the bit that's so gutting. The house is absolutely incredible. There's just some really, really weird elements. There's some really weird elements happening. Why we're doing this is because just the times are chaotic. Oh my god. They can be more... if you didn't just get that from that whole spiel then. Oh this is kind kind of I would like to know this I know what you are, but okay. I don't really know any of the first

Are you a serial or a toast girl? You don't know any of the first? I don't really know any serial girls. Ah Are you a serial girl or a toast girl? Okay, so in the morning is toast But you know I do go through phases with cereals. In the morning? I go through phases of where I just wanna eat cereal like all day every day, like 10 bowls of cereal a day. Yeah, I get that.

Do you know what I mean? But then I start to feel really sick because it's like, well, I'm drinking like a whole cow's worth of milk. That's what it's all saying. Do you know what I mean? It's like, I may as well just actually take myself down to your local farm

and sit with my mouth open the way that I'm guzzling all that milk But then also you can't get full of cereal I think You can Really? If you have enough of it you can Okay Almost well you can make yourself sick Which I would recommend

Well it depends on the type Yeah But then who's just eating? You're not gonna sit and eat bowls and bowls of cornflakes are you? They're gonna be Cookie Chris. Oh, I've had, I've done both. Definitely. Do you remember that phase? Bowls and bowls of cornflakes! I recently went through that cornflake phase, you know that.

Oh my god, you did go through a cornflake phase. Where I just wanted cornflake. We had them because we made those chocolate cornflake cakes. You know, like the real Easter. Right, so you can see, you can place this in time. It was just a few months ago. I got into a big cornflake phase and I would have, yeah, like a lot of bowls in a row. It's kind of what I do. It's a bit space raiders two packets. It's like, I have one thing and I enjoy it and I'm like, do that again. Yeah. Just more of the same please. Just keep that coming. coming top me up what are you in a phase of now? uh good question i'm in a phase of like eating out a lot which is

really bad. those don't think it's bad it's really quite delicious. well it's really expensive. it's just also expensive. yeah it's delightful. it is really yeah it's delightful. what about you? i'm in a really i think this will hit the certain people but lots of people will think no to this but the people that Get it will get this. I am really really really into like a crispy tofu situation Yeah, yeah, almost like frying in yeah like coating in cornstarch and frying it so that it gets a really Crispy crispy on the outside and then getting that like really saucy with rice That was my favorite thing to get when I was vegan from the Chinese. I would get salt and pepper tofu which was so so so amazingly good.

I genuinely like I'd I've never really been that much of a tofu person like I do like a scrambled tofu but that was like it. A tofu would always be my choice. Loving tofu. Yeah. It has to be done right. Has to be done. It does but there's so many ways to do it like it is probably the most versatile. it's so versatile. thing in the world it's just I love it. yeah. and I get and people will go I don't like tofu. if you like tofu I'm

with you. it's so yummy. you would like the salt and pepper tofu if you thought you didn't like tofu. I would. I like most things to be honest. same. if it's vegan. if it meets my really strict requirements. yeah but generally. i like it. you're not fussy with like flavours and stuff. no. i do really like most things. so you're a toast girl too? big time. there's literally not a world in which i'm having cereal for breakfast. at all. no but cereal for breakfast is so limiting but then all of a sudden if you open up the landscape to cereal at night. cereal in the evening is crazy. very delicious. that's amazing. that's really something. I was never allowed sugary cereal. yeah. that's probably why you're so smart you know so much about the environment, the natural world.

I know what a stinging nestle is, it's true. I can't deny it. but like one of my friends once had golden nuggets at that house And I remember eating like probably like a mixing bowl of those So good Golden nuggets, I used to love those I used to have the ones that you would buy in like a multi pack and it would be like Coco pops. It would be like a tiny little cocoa pops a tiny little blah blah blah. Do you know what I mean? Rice crispies They were good. I know it well. I did like Weetabix No Even I remember people like you would did like Weetabix. No

Even I remember people like you would still eat Weetabix now, right? I wouldn't buy it but my sister had some in Lisbon recently What about four months ago? At uni I kind of had a similar thing with Marmite I got to uni and everyone was eating Marmite and I got to uni and everyone was eating Weetabix. It's quite like I thought I had such a weird perception of you guys. It's a bit weird to never encounter Marmite and Weetabix and then all of a sudden it's like all anyone's eating. Or like people having Weetabix with breakfast. Who the fuck is eating Weetabix? You guys would have Weetabix in the mornings. No, I wouldn't have Weetabix in the mornings. You would. Some people would. Someone probably had Weetabix that I then stole and had some. But there's no way I'm buying a thing of Weetabix that's absolutely like... God that's insane.

It just feels like a very... It feels like a very capital G good breakfast that a child would be given in a way that I was never given that. I would be given like Coco Pops or like peanut butter toast or like jam on toast. I think peanut butter toast is probably, Weetabix is one of those things like you're gonna be hungry in half an hour. I mean by good, definitely but there's something about it that's like good good it's kind of like getting your, it's kind of like getting a good jumper for your child or getting like getting their eyebrows waxed professionally so they don't pluck them themselves. There's something good about it. Do you know what I mean? It feels like the right thing to, there's like a poshness to it. There's a

middle-class for sure about Weetabix. But then I also think is it, like you know how like Special K was always like we're a healthy diet thing. I still love Special K. I almost, yeah me too, I still love it. But then I feel like maybe Weetabix has the same thing of like it's probably not that good for you it's probably really processed and It's almost a thing of like thinking whole wheat bread is really good for you when actually it's probably got a load of pesticides and shit in it like Weird but yeah, but it's better for you than Coco Pops. I'm sure but I'm sure yeah, but also like a lot more fun on there exactly

Yeah, so really what does that would sound better for you like yeah, and three weeks though like Do you get what I mean? You've got me in the mood for that? I've never once been in ever in my I think I've probably had wheat beaks under three times in my life Oh my okay, they said yeah I don't really know what that is almost Almost, if I took a bite out of a Weetabit, I wouldn't know what to expect. Really? You couldn't picture the taste now? I can't anticipate the taste of a Weetabit. The thing is, I get that.

Because it changes quite a lot over the course of like, minutes. Or like, if you heat it. People have hot milk with Weetabits, I've seen. That's fucking mental. Is that bad? I think that- Monopoly Double Play is back in McDonald's and it's easy to get into the win. I've seen. Is that bad? I think that's bad. including a chance to win cash every minute in the app. Cash doesn't make any noise, but it's awesome! Get into the game with Monopoly Double Player McDonald's.

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But like, I want some other than I don't think. I can imagine people doing that. I think it's like at the beginning you want to get a Weetabix after about you want it to eat it 30 seconds after the milk has been poured. Any sooner any later you're playing with fire it's just gonna be mush or like straw. The problem with Weetabix too I have overseen is like people normally I've seen them set give themselves to Weetabuy. Yeah. Yeah for sure for sure, but surely you need more than that. Yes What's the point you do struggle to put them in a bowl and also like I say you want to be using it 30 to 40 Seconds after the milk so you need to do like two rounds of we kind of needs to be around situation

Otherwise, you've got four we two bits in a opinion. Yeah so it kind of needs to be a round situation otherwise you've got four Weetabix in a bowl, the top one's a straw and the bottom one's a mush. They are straws, hay bales! No but until it's not, until it's literally slush at the bottom. The closest thing I had to Weetabix growing up was shreddies. Yeah I'm a big fan of shreddies. Yeah. But I would always put other sugary frosted ones than the chocolate ones. Yeah see this is what I was never allowed but I would put I started putting sugar on like sneaking sugar on. It's good that you weren't allowed that Sefi it's really good for you. It's probably why my baby tooth's still going fun fact. Which is nuts actually. I would literally wake up and within probably five seconds of being awake I had like two tablespoons of sugar probably like I would just go mad. See that's a of being awake I had like two tablespoons of sugar probably.

Like I would just go mad. See that's a lot more fun though, isn't it? It was definitely fun, I guess. I had a great time. Yeah, I would have a lot of lemonade as well. But this is my siblings like sugar. It's just me. I'm just weird. Oh, yeah, you don't actually like it. They have juice, lemonade, coke. They love sugar. Yeah, and I like it, but I'm just also a bit, you know. Yeah. It's not my favourite thing. No, it kind of is my favourite thing, I think. I think salt is my favourite thing.

Uh, I just have to have both. Yeah, no, I get it, I get it. You know why? Because I can't appreciate salt without sweet, and I can't appreciate sweet without salt. Like, they only make each other better. It's a bit of a sephian wing situation. It's like, I need... Totally. You need a little bit of... it's perfect harmony. You need both to

really emphasize the other. I think I I completely agree. It's like I get definitely get the sweet cravings but it will be the thing that I'm craving will be something that other people don't find sweet. Like I would find... yeah it would be like it'd be like raisins and nuts yeah like it's yeah I would be raisins and nuts. I'm not even trying to be Gwyneth Paltrow like I actually swear to God. You are Gwyneth Paltrow. Like I genuinely, I get roasted for it. There's something so hippie about you. Like I could not like sweets or like haribo or like that sort of artificial fruit flavour i could never i actually could never like a lemonade i could never. yummy. so yeah i think i agree but my sweet threshold is very low. fair enough i'm glad we unpacked that.

anyway oh someone has said this kind of goes to what we were talking about at the beginning someone said did sephi move into the dream fairy house she was looking for at uni? yeah didn't pan out so well. she did move in and soon she'll be moving out. soon to move out. that's all we need to say on that. Can you steer? Yeah, I'm just looking at it. I've almost, we're in a car, I've just let go of the wheel, sorry. I'm just kind of like- Well okay, I've got one for you. How old is Ozzy?

He's old, he's 13. Baby boy. Baby boy. But evil eye, evil eye, evil eye. I get so scared like- Well he's young and sprightly, he really is. He is young and sprightly. I just always think of someone listening

and not liking me and then being like, oh, that fucking dumb rat dog, I hope it dies soon, whatever. He is a rat dog, but he's gonna live a long life. Well, he already has, but I'm just touching words. No, but he's gonna keep going. He will. I have dogs at Aussie a number of times. A few times, yeah.

And, yeah, he ain't dying anytime soon. Not for lack of trying. He's got some energy. He has got some energy. He put some welly behind it for sure. You would at 13, he's just not giving 13. My god, I did not tell you. So, on my birthday, we... the day before my birthday we went to Margate. Margate. And we went to the restaurant, can we say this, that your sister used to work in? Yeah, Sargasso. Sargasso. I'd really recommend it if you ever find yourself in the area. Yes.

And we went- I've never been but I've- Oh, it was really good. I've... no... no, it was anything. Oh, go on, you've heard bad things. No, I've just heard- The dramas. No, no, we won't say anything

Right, or just you know, it's working as a waitress in a thing. There's always fucking load of shit Well, I it seemed to be the to be honest it felt like there was something going on in there Anyway, almost when we walked in it was a bit like if we interrupted something that sort of vibe. Oh god That's all right. Anyway, we sat down we had Ozzy with us in a bag and In a plastic bag. Like he was kind of just going around with us all day in a tote bag was really cute Really cute. He's very chilled like you can kind of go most place with him and he'll just sit down He might sniff around a bit at the beginning and then he'll just like sit in your lap or like oh my god

He's so chilled. He's very chilled. He's he's really just like doesn't give a fuck. We were sat in Sargasso whatever it's called. Yeah. In the middle of the restaurant he so we'd put his bed in his, you know what I'm gonna say, we put his bed in the bag so he had this like big tote bag and it had his little round dog bed in the bottom of the bag so he was kind of curled up in bed but in a bag. I love that he's in a tote bag. I think there's a picture on my Instagram I think I posted it of him with his little head poking out but he would just like curl down in the bag whatever yeah sat down the bed he's in his bed in the bag on the floor look down and he's pulling his blanket to one side middle of the restaurant no no okay

humping his oh god I do know yeah as soon as I heard he's pulling a bed I know what he's doing yeah I've seen this in action many a time humping I think what I think the humping is pretty harmless until the day big old So that's also something we haven't said about what's he but if you guys didn't know this his dick is Actually, I'm so disproportionate to the point where Like always he has been in Jack's family for like decades Yeah, like he's been around forever and I know one. He truly is. He's an ancient artifact and no one had ever seen his dick in this way before. I can't even describe the size of it to

the point where when I first saw it was when we moved to Brighton I was googling thinking I was gonna have to take him to the vet like it was just so so massive. I'm if this is making anyone ill. It's so red and long. It's huge. It's absolutely huge. I thought he was having some sort of prolapse. I was like oh my god his organs are falling out of his body. Like it's literally massive. It's so unbelievably big. It's kind of it would give that photo that guy with the wine bottle photo. Oh my god, girthmaster. it's that. it is the girthmaster. a run for his money. it's massive. like almost if you were another little dog, you're a little chihuahua, you approach Ozzy in the street, you would run a fucking mile. you'd be like there's no way that's happening, sorry. it's disgusting. It's like a really, really long worm. It's disgusting. It's so big. Anyway, so he starts humping in the middle of the restaurant, but I think he was just

overstimulated from all the beautiful smells of the food. Of the fish. Yeah, the fish and it was really good food, but... It's Michelin star... It was really nice, but then we had to kind of tuck the bag back over him so but then you just saw the bag like kind of jittering under our table anyway it was fine but he yeah. it's horrible. but he's old he's 13 so in dog years that makes him what? an old pervert man. literally. jesus christ 91. oh that's horrible to think of like a 91 year old man wanking in the middle of the restaurant.

In the middle of a restaurant, it's crazy. Jesus Christ. Anyway. 91? It's a bit grandpa Joe. Suddenly I'm scared of him. It is mental. Yeah, he is old.

That's really weird. He's great. He was very well behaved. Yeah. Very cute. This is nice. what's the best memory you have together? oh my god. we've never spoken about that. we've never ever had this conversation. i have one. a really random one. yeah. it must have been just... it must... yeah it must have been pre-covid it was. and we had recorded the... we were recording the pilot season and we went to the haunted hotel that has since burned down

oh my god this is the day you want to pick in Brighton and we just really randomly and we recorded like a Halloween episode and the fire alarm went off we had to run out of the room it was so scary and then when we went to bed we were doing all of the bits that we do on the pod now of like goodbye friend of Hagrid all of that stuff and we were dying of laughter and I just remember laughing so much but like knowing that we should be sleeping but laughing. Oh my god I thought you were gonna say like that is a great moment that was such a sleepover moment I thought you were gonna say the fire alarm. Yeah and the fire alarm was great. We were recording and then the fire alarm started going off and we were already terrified. It was a really scary moment. That was goodbye friend of Hacker. I remember literally almost wetting myself. And we were doing grease as well a bit in that. We were what? We were doing grease. Brush some of the language for the first time. Yeah, we were. We sort of hadn't really said goodbye.

We hadn't put words to it. No, like almost... I remember trying some bits out on you and they were landing and I thought, okay, so we have the same kind of melodies here. Yeah, 100%. Which is funny. I have kind of a... mine's a bit less hilarious, but just such a nice moment. That was a bit when we were in a taxi. I had just moved to London just pre-COVID and we had been invited by someone to speak

at this event and we were in the taxi and we were going over... Were we on our way there? Yeah, we were going over Battersea bridge i believe and the song was on the radio it was like just the two of us and we just looked at each other and we were like oh my god it's a bit us. that was just a really nice moment. that was great. we've had great moments. cute. should we keep reminiscing on some more just quickly? yeah let's do some more. if you don't mind because i do. Do you have any? I do really like it. I love when we went to Thorpe Park. Savvy took us to Thorpe Park for my birthday.

Oh, that was so fun. That was a really fun day. Also, I loved going through the horror mazes with you. Also, I loved being on a rollercoaster with you. Same. And we really liked, we did not waste a second of that day. We did not. We also, we just, we told the story before about how we got fast-track tickets. Have we told that story? No, no, we said that we had fast-track tickets. Oh, okay, right. We didn't say how we got the tickets. Let's leave that there then. If you ever see us in real life, how did you get fast-track tickets?

We had fast-track tickets, that's all we needed to say. Not in the script, yep. We had them. Yep. And, um... And we put them to great use. and we don't I don't think we queued for over five minutes in that day. ever. no. it was amazing. we literally did not queue and we just completely ran south of the place. oh we nailed it. it was amazing. we definitely need to go again that was so good. we do. we're going to Tully's farm actually. okay so this is actually next week is it? yeah on, maybe don't say the day. On the...on...well it's f***ing day. Don't be weird. No no no, let's not say the day. Why? Because I'll be scared enough on that day and then I'll think what if someone hates us and they like jump out of the mazes and

stuff. Oh no, I think it's fine. No, let's beep the day. Really? I just suddenly got really scared like... I thought... Because sometimes I think like what if a killer gets into the mazes and stuff like that? No no no no no no, Safi. So should we say a different day? Yes I'll beep it, I'll beep the day. Fuck. Just I don't know why but just that just feels too janky. Well can we not talk about a killer? I wanted to start talking about like Zoella, not a killer. So basically if you don't know what Tully's Farm is, then you actually have a real cultural

blind spot that you need to work on. Yeah, I think so. That's putting it kindly. Yeah, I think you need to do some work on that personally. I think you need to do some work on yourself. Basically, it's the place to be- I've never been, but it's the place to be. It's like a horror mazey- I've been mazey. I remember you saying it was scary. my friend had a panic attack. yeah I remember that. it was four of us. my sister came as well. two friends are my sister. and yeah someone had a full panic attack when they came out of one of the mazes and which does show how scary they are. they're just like a lot. and they've never been the same since? Yeah, no, genuinely. And they're definitely a lot more detailed than the like Friday night ones.

They're definitely up and notch and they're more scary I would say. So that was years ago. And there's just more like love put into them. Yeah, yeah, love for the craft. And then there was one, I remember there was one really scary name called Chop Shop. Which was like a sort of slaughterhouse sort of vibe. And it was like a bit chainsaw vibe. Excited! And my sister went in that one alone. That was like five pumpkins scary. Oh wow okay. They all

have like this is three, this is two, this was like five, like the scariest one and Lizzie was like I'm doing that and we were like we're not going in that one. She's like I'll do it on my own then. And I was like you're nuts. I'm so excited. The gag is that we're going with MVE, which is our like management. So obviously everybody say thank you Freya and Molly, who you guys have heard about. So it's like a whole, it's like a- It's huge. Yeah, it's a big deal, right? Is anyone else feeling that? I'm feeling it. I personally am really feeling it. It feels like a- it feels really weird. Like I almost, it's a bit much to be like, oh my my god when we were like kids And we watched them all going like no and now we're going it's not a bit much

There's no way to sound it's exactly that without it being Is it not exactly mental but it is totally that yeah, it's just nuts. I'm really excited I feel like Tully's farm it I would want to like it almost feels More than a holiday or something like if we were like we're going on holiday with them blah blah blah that would feel like a lot but Tally's farm is like I would want to do that even more holiday with them is crazy. I can't really explain how much. How about these people like don't know us? We're obsessed with them. We love, oh Freya, you're going to start saying. Yeah maybe not the rest of the management. The rest of them are like who? And Molly I would go yeah that would be amazing. Because of that saying yeah. But almost like I can't explain how much

Tally's Farm is like probably top three things I want to do. It's iconic. In life. It's so crazy I'm so excited. Yeah. Oh so then I was assuming you were coming back here after. Yes but there's something I have to do the next day I've I had this okay um conflict the thing I'm doing what day is Tally's farm? the next day I'm going to that yellow face um talk oh yeah the writer of yellow face well why don't I come back up with you oh my god you have to why don't you you need to get a ticket like okay okay I'll get I'm going for dinner after with some people for my course would you like to come to pizza express with everyone please because someone else is bringing a friend. Oh, well, I'd love to Please. Oh my god. That would be so good. And then I can I stay at yours on the Wednesday. Would you want to yes so much?

Genuinely, would you want to so much? Yes, I would love it because I would love to get some more eyes on the situation I want to so much. So I've been saying to Sophie. can you take every time she talks about someone on the course I'm like, can you get a photo of them? She's like no How would I do that? Absolutely not but I can yeah, yeah Also, everyone's nice like I'm going for dinner but no one in the course everyone on the course is so nice. Perfect. Yes 100% It's the people I live with that I want you to see. Oh my god amazing. Oh my god. I can't wait Okay, that's so fun. So you need to get I'll get you Yeah, send me a thing, but I can't wait. Okay that's so fun so you need to get a- I'll get you it. Yeah send me a thing.

But I can't get you a student ticket because they're all sold out. So you won't get a £5 I think it will be £10 which is pretty annoying. Jesus effing Christ. That will be so fun though. Oh my god I'm so excited. Oh my god that's actually so fun. Up the wazoo. What a few days.

Oh that is so fun I'm really excited. Same I'm really excited. Speaking of up the wazoo. Oh my god that's a really fun few days. Oh, that is so fun. I'm really excited. Same. I'm really excited speaking about the wazoo And a fun few days. Did you guys see our house of the dragon house of the bedrock video on YouTube? Yeah, because that was so fun. Is that where I say up the wazoo or is that a different one? I think no, no you do. It is in that one. Yeah. Well anyway, I just brought that back into my vocab Not that it ever really was in there, but's just a funny little thing isn't it? And I would really recommend that video definitely it's absolutely stunning. No, but everyone's being really nice about it It is absolutely nice comments. It's stunning. So it was just such a cozy day. It was great

I remember you being like I was watching it and I was just like I want to be there and it's like yeah Same to be honest. It's just a really nice blog like we Get a while from mum as we're watching house the dragon. We're at wings house. It's very cozy. It's very chilled Yeah, so yeah go watch that it's good for an autumn vibe Definitely and Ozzy really puts in his best work in that video. He really shines in that video and he's 91 guys So he's really working hard. Oh, no, I don't even want that to be a part of that video. And he's 91 guys though. He's 91, that takes a lot out of him. Oh no I don't even want that to be a part of the narrative I'm touching wood again. No touch wood. Evil eye, evil eye, evil eye. Okay alright. Okay cool. Let's go. Well if you don't hear from us, assume the win.

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