Goes Without Saying - vision boards & new year rituals: podmas #23
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Hello.
Let the jingle bells ring.
Let the jingle bells ring out.
And welcome back everyone.
Welcome back.
We're kind of near the end.
It's the 23rd of December.
That's nuts. That is really nuts. How's your advent coming to go? and welcome back everyone welcome back we're kind of near the end it's the 23rd of December
that's nuts that is really nuts how's your advent calendar going it's good I'm actually
a bit behind so I had such a frustrating thing what so my this advent calendar I'm holding
it up it's the nomo one and so they are going through so that you get a chocolate and a
little picture and they're all like all the reindeers are on there like Dasher, Blitzer, I'm looking at them now,
they've all got their names, Dancer, you know them.
Yep.
Like it's quite like, god I didn't know every single one.
I did a pub quiz.
I kind of do because I don't know their names.
Oh right here we go.
I did a pub quiz the other day with my mum and like her friends.
It was quite like, well my mum and two men. It was just like who? I only knew one of the men. And one of the
men was wearing a t-shirt. So I was like, I don't really want to do this, but I'm going
to go.
It's good to do. Yeah.
I thought like, look, fucking do it. One of the men shows up. So I don't know these men
that my mum hangs out with.
Yeah, who was it?
Well, one of them is her mate. And then one of them is she just she is I'm not even joking social butterfly. Social butterfly. I've never met someone with
more friends other than maybe my sister like they have the same gene here like they are
social as fuck. Yeah. This fucking dude shows up wearing a t-shirt that says I can put you
on the naughty list and it's like I hate this. Oh wow. I hate this. I hate this. I hate this. I hate this. God I quite love that for your mum.
No no no he's like a married old man. Oh. Oh. Yeah it's like some dude. Some like literally
old guy. So why is he saying that? That's just a t-shirt he was wearing. Just like you
know Christmas joke. What's the implication there? That he's gonna fuck you. What an interesting
t-shirt. Yeah really really crass I'll say. Very crass t-shirts. I quite like that.
Okay, very crass, yeah.
I went down a storm with everyone, other than me making everything political for no reason.
I'm passing through Prashasa.
Well, it's an interesting dynamic.
Married man.
I didn't say anything, but.
Shows up to the pub with a friend.
Yeah, I didn't make it.
Didn't make it a thing.
Didn't make it a thing.
I didn't warn Tim either.
No, fair enough.
But fine.
One of the questions was, I'll ask you the question now. I'll see if you can do it. I can't do it
I know I can't well, it's just like a Christmas quiz, you know, Harry my go to it
Which of the reindeer's names shares its name?
Which of the reindeer shares its name with a mascot of another holiday? Okay, Jesus Christ. Yeah go
Right, so it's not dancer. yeah this is what I was
doing. it's not Prancer. oh is it something's am I on the wrong track? no no no you're on the right
track. oh okay. this is exactly what I knew. this is the exact way to do it but going through them and then it's like
another holiday. do I know the mascot of the other holiday? you'll know it yeah yeah you'll know this
name. okay dancer Prancer. I wouldn't necessarily even call it a mascot you know but like it's like a
symbol of another holiday I guess. It makes sense when you know the answer but I'll tell you. Right go on then just tell me. So the
next day on my advent calendar I opened it up bloody it was the one if I was
just a day earlier I would have seen it that morning. Cupid. Oh I forgot he was a... I didn't know he was a... Me neither.
Cupid. Didn't get the point. That's a very good question. I know, I was a bit devastated though. I reckon Harry might have got that.
Yeah Harry, did you get it? Were you shouting Cupid? Yeah, I bet you were.
Can't be quite fun to do an interactive quiz. Cupid. Well maybe he's my favourite. I was like, fuck you, Cupid! Well maybe he's my favourite. I was like fuck you Cupid. I think he might be my
new favourite. My favourite is Comet. Yeah that's cute. I love the name Comet. Yeah it's
very cute. But it is a bit grommet unfortunately. But you like Wallace and Gromit. I do but
like I almost think Comet is such a cool word. Like kind of how I love like Phoenix, Comet, you know things echo things like
that. I'm pretty sure Sprinkle of Glitter, Louise Pentland, I'm pretty sure she had a cat
called Comet, am I making that up? She might, I saw her at an event once. Or a bit maybe. Oh yeah I heard her
speaking about that at a TikTok event. Oh really? She said she was nervous. Intriguing because I was
nervous to see her. Yeah I thought that was funny. Sprinkle of Gl, because I was nervous to see her there. Yeah, I thought that was funny.
Sprinkle of glitter, I was gonna say aloha.
I wasn't gonna do that.
I'm glad you didn't.
Yeah, no, I wasn't gonna do that.
But yeah, anyway, that's...
Okay.
I don't know when that came up.
My advent calendar, yeah, I'm quite behind though.
Advent calendar, good.
23 is right here.
I've missed 21, 22, and 23.
Yeah, sounds about right about right yeah the exact days
of pondmas that we missed. so now you've got some chocolate to stock up. so I've got four more to go until
that's really nice. Christmas day essentially so I'll munch two of those
three of them today I guess. I have to say grateful as I am for my advent
calendars I do miss chocolate. you got a lot of candles on the go then. 24 candles is insane. They're only small so it's quite perfect.
That's really nice, but like how are you getting through a candle a day? Well, I haven't I haven't I'm probably on like day four of those.
Oh god, are there 24 of them or is it like one where there are less? No, no, there's 24. That's insane. But they're only little they're like little tea lights oh okay but scented yeah all different I
think so yeah it's just quite a lot like I don't think I'd go through a candle a
day I do well maybe not a day but I could go through a tea light I'm still
going off this one this is like I got this last Christmas the Haykors yeah
that's crazy that would be gone for me oh my god it's the if anyone knows the
brand Haykors spell H A E C K E L S. it's like a margate based brand, they're made of seaweed. it's just really... i'm
obsessed with them. what one have you got? what's this? yeah. this is the one that smells like rain
on concrete. is that what it's called? it's just called 23 i think. oh no it's called plulophile.
Is that what it's called? It's just called 23 I think. Oh no it's called Plulophile. Pluviofile. Yes. Because I was in there smelling them back in September. This is just the black
one. They're all white and then there's one black one which is this one. Interesting.
I was wondering what one Sefi has. And then I have the perfume from them called Pegwell.
Mmm nice. If anyone you know. but it's my favourite smell you
know. yeah don't judge her. like my friend had it and I copied it and I'm not gonna lie.
why does it feel so like um what did I say? it feels vulnerable someone knowing. oh yeah
why does it feel so vulnerable being like I have this item. genuinely. I think especially
with the smell. yeah because it's like like, I know that you, Harry,
could seek that out in your life, sniff it up,
and be like, oh, not sure about that.
And then it feels a bit like,
oh, you think I stink or something.
Or like, if I recommend a food, it's like,
oh, that's coming back on me, is it?
Totally, like, almost if I was to be like,
guys, go and get the something pizza, blah, blah, blah.
It's like, oh, God, you know what I like to eat.
It's like, oh, you're gonna stand by that.
Yeah, I'd be like, stand by nothing. It's a lot. i stand by nothing. i stand by nothing guys. stand
by nothing. fall for everything. also like it's kind of the sephian wing curse like yeah okay watch
there be a scandal with um no mo advent calendars tomorrow. cupid the reindeer cancelled. it actually
would be. like genuinely. it actually legitimately would be. be. Should we talk about the new year?
Yeah.
So what are your thoughts on that?
Well, you were telling me, even before we started,
you said, I'm really excited for the new year for us
and I couldn't agree more.
Yeah.
I just love the ending of a chapter, as we know.
I love to be washed clean of all sins.
I was actually thinking at some point between well basically I want to get
as close to the new year as possible so maybe on the last day of the year but I feel like
it'll be quite busy I wanted to go to like the sauna and the steam room and like meditate
in the sauna and the steam room.
Whoa can I come with you?
Yeah of course.
That sounds insanely nice.
Please do be my guest and just like meditate and be like I'm getting rid of everything from this year. Like I'm sweating it all out
Whoa. Yeah, that was my like little thing
I wanted to do like a really nice little kind of ritual and then like cold shower
And just be like fresh and like so clean for the new year. Doesn't that sound really nice? Yes
That was kind of my like it was an unformulated thing of just like a quick thought. Sorry,
I'm really coughing around and I know I'm cutting them out but I might leave that one
in just to show the grind that's going into these. Yeah, just I do, steam room, whoa,
to be like just showering it all away yeah i love the steam room
actually like same i think i think i actually don't i like them for a bit but they easily become like
far too much like the overwhelming feeling is like really bad well i thought so i have this memory
kind of in the i don't like ketchup i'm a a morning person sort of way, I do like ketchup by the way.
Yeah.
That was just a...
An example.
That was hypothetical.
Yeah.
I thought somebody could say it but not what I would say.
That was an impression.
That was an impression of someone who doesn't like ketchup.
It's quite convincing.
It was very convincing.
I famously, not famously, I had this belief that I didn't like saunas because every time
I would go in saunas I wouldn't like them, but hadn't gone in a sauna since I was like 14 or
something. Yeah. And it's like, oh yeah, I was a kid, like I was probably just like... And it was
really boring and hot. My little lungs were probably just like knock out. Well, so you had to relax into it.
Yeah, I think I just wasn't like, I think as a child I was just too sensitive to that heat.
Because now I go in and I'm like, this is like really fine. Yeah. Um, I remember a child I was just too sensitive to that heat because now I go in and I'm like
this is like really fine. Yeah. I remember one time I was in the sauna and there was
a guy in there reading. I thought that was nice. It was crazy that your book's gonna
get completely ruined. It was like a really old, he was a bit of a wanker, well I literally
did say a word to him so that's quite crazy. But he seemed like a bit of a dick. Just almost
like you've got your old like
pretentious book and you're just like reading in the sauna and like now it's just two of us in the sauna.
It's not but it's just like please you know that looks like trash.
But it was like kind of old and floppy. Yeah probably brand new when he went in there.
He's still in there now in fact. So that's a little something that I want to do before the
new year. Just to like really capitalise on a reset. Yeah I'm trying to make a vision board
like just on Pinterest like I make them kind of fairly often when I like I'm entering a new
thing you know. Emotional era. If I'm moving house or something I'll make a little thing.
But it's currently blank, it's just 2025 and it's completely blank because I was really
like fuck I think I need to like write down some things and get clear before I just like
pin a load of like stunning photos and like that looks nice but like these aren't actually
goals, these are just like fun nice things.
But I don't really know what my goals for the year are.
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I need to do, I need to do the writing down and the thinking and the dwelling.
Yeah.
I need to like,
Oh, actually, should we do that together?
Because you know, we made those beautiful vision boards.
That Kieran Culkin was on and then we saw, but I saw him.
Well interesting that he was on your vision board and not on mine.
And then you went to the thing and I didn't.
I got so true but we really weirded Kieran Colkin because he's so um.
It would have to be in honour of you.
He's peripheral to you.
He's yours, he's truly yours.
He really is like, I'd be so upset if you um, don't get caught with him, I don't know
if what will happen.
I'd be upset if I got with him as well. I'd be like what am I playing at?
He's married with two kids. He's married with two kids but also he's kind of emotionally tied to you.
Yes, agreed. I don't know if he knows that but he is. He is though. Yeah. You have that emotional pull.
I'd be devastated if you got with Seth Rogen. Oh my god it'd be so sad. But I feel like you'd understand it for me.
I wouldn't, I don't fancy him.
You're pushing your luck here.
I don't know, just when you said that I kind of got a bit annoyed.
Okay, okay.
Look.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't. I don't actually want to.
I'm not shocked that you would do that to me more so.
I would be, I would want to be...
Really?
Have you got something to say? Let me think that through from your perspective. I would be what I would want to be
Let me think that through from your perspective
No, I don't I don't want to do it
To me I'm just gonna play it through quickly wouldn't bother you to do that to me I think you would actually see love it. No, I would but that's not about that
It's about the principle of you'd be happy to do that
Knowing it knowing. Okay. No, no, but they know you in a real way we're at some event Seth Rogan is there for
some reason he's trying to kiss me no and i i think you would want me to do it i actually wouldn't
want to but i think you'd be like obviously would yeah i obviously would yeah but don't you think
you're expecting a lot of me no no because I don't even want to do it
I'd probably kind of be doing it for you. right okay it's kind of you've you've
maneuvered that one. I genuinely need that. reverse psychology. I don't even want to do it. I actually don't. yeah I would love it. I wouldn't I wouldn't want to do that and also like the first
thing I would do when I walked into the room would be text you saying oh my
fucking god I'm in a room with Safrogan. I thought
you're gonna say- and then I would text you you'd be getting updates along the way oh my
god I think he might be flirting with me. you'd be saying oh my god he fucking
stinks of weed and I think that- and then I'd probably phone you I'd probably run to
the toilet and be like right okay I think Safrogan's trying to kiss me what
should I do? I'd say I'm coming down. okay and there we go so I want someone to do it
basically. well no no I'm not doing it I'm gonna come. Okay, and there we go. So I want someone to do it basically. Well, no, no, I'm not doing it
I'm gonna come down and support you. I don't want to do it. Well, then don't then I will I think basically
Yeah, no, I actually wouldn't do it. I love him. No. Yeah, exactly. I love him so much. This is kind of a conversation
I have a lot with like there's one friend that I have whose name gets mentioned a lot on this podcast
But we're gonna leave her name out of it for this one. i trade, we trade with crushes quite often. you really do, yeah.
like so she has like josh o'connor, she has, which means that i literally cannot touch
him. like he's to haze has. yeah. she has.. who else does she have on the tally? god.
um. she has so many. she's got jamie demetreux. yeah she can have him. random. she just wanted
to, she wanted to cement that. the problem the problem is when these if these people were to pop up in life for real
somebody's gotta do it just one of us has to consummate this. this is kind of what I mean with the Seth
Rogan thing. yeah I don't care who does it but somebody has to. yeah no exactly I
don't care it doesn't actually have to be me but someone has to make the most of
this opportunity. yes but you're just seeing Seth Rogan as like just a guy. exactly, exactly. he is just a guy to me. but- but then so that's why i
need to remember that he is not just- i kind of thought he- i thought you were over him to be
honest. i am over him but like not in spirit. yeah i get it. you know when something hits you and then it's like well that's
forever. well it's kind of kieran it's like i wasn't in a kieran phase but god i'd be devastated if i
knew someone had kissed him. Exactly. His wife.
But yeah, I've got bad news for you, but if it was to come down to it I don't think I would want
to kiss Kieran even if he wanted me to.
No.
I don't think you would want me to.
Here's what I would want to happen, in a situation that yeah if I'm there Jesus Christ what are you
doing getting in the way of that. But in a situation where I am not there, Kieran is suddenly making
a move on you I think you would be a fool, an absolute fool not to do that.
oh but what if I said just wait 45 minutes and my friend will be here?
yes then do that do that if there's any possibility if I can both be there.
yeah yeah what goes without saying that would be my first strategy.
I would I would be sometimes I think people don't make
the most of these opportunities. I agree! You're being presented with something that is literally
once in a lifetime and this whole thing is hypothetical of like get me there in 45 minutes
you'd be an absolute fool kiss him away kiss kiss kiss the night away. I agree. There was even a guy
in school and I remember saying to my friends recently That is crazy that none of us consummated that like I remember this just somebody has to consummate this
Get it over with
A similar thing. Is that weird to say maybe? No, no, no, no, no, no
Okay, but kind of with my trading thing that I do with my friend. Yeah, just like we'll do it casually
But then became this very real guy available to both of us
And I was like you can have him. Oh, yeah, i'm gonna I might take like, it wasn't Josh O'Connor he wasn't
a thing there but I'm gonna take him off you like if that's all, these are hypothetical people.
Yeah. And she was like no no no no I'm not willing to trade blah blah blah and I was like okay well
someone has to do this, someone has to do that and I traded three people for the real life man.
Which is crazy that was a big trade. It was a big trade, I traded big people for the real life man. Which is crazy, that was a big trade.
It was a big trade, I traded big people.
But I just thought, look, you can have him, him, him,
and him, but somebody has to do this.
Somebody has to action this, yeah.
And no one was willing to do it.
So there you go then.
And it's like, we actually, we have like,
we all fancy this guy, someone has to do it,
does anyone actually fancy him?
Is anyone actually going to do it?
No, then I will.
But also I think it's like, worth checking, does anyone actually like this guy? And do it no then I think it's like worth checking does anyone actually like this guy and then it's
like not a fun thing but it's just a fun casual thing to everyone that everyone
just randomly fancies this guy yeah who's willing to do it
agreed apparently I was the only one willing to do it my money where my mouth
is with my trades you did trade big hitters of names yeah and yeah cemented
also I do feel like look despite what the word maybe said, if it came down to it and
you're in the room, the trades are off in my opinion.
Exactly what I think.
That's what I said.
But then she got very annoyed when I said that.
But it's true.
And I also think from her perspective, it's like, oh, well, next week, it's kind of like,
okay, last week you were at a thing with Keira and Culkin in the same room.
It's like, if you're trading with Se Sefi the stakes are different because it's like
me and Sefi for whatever reason have managed to get to some screenings
recently so be careful but then I also when I did say that because I was like
look I do feel like the chances of you like if I was in the room with him I
probably would still do it even though we have traded and she got very annoyed
and I thought of thought okay I need to
take these trades a bit more seriously because I've been going a bit like
they're a joke. But then she needs to either come with us. That's the thing.
Or you know it's like well some to me the priority is it getting actioned.
Couldn't agree more. I don't care who it is. the priority is everyone's feelings.
yeah that's number one priority. like yes if you're actually in love with a guy god close that saying. take these things i actually take these things too seriously.
but if we're talking about just fun nothing guys. celebrities even. i think they're free game. i
agree with you. couldn't agree more. any celebrities on the cards are 2025. Oh
My god, who is on the cards?
So like last year was big like Josh Hutchinson vibes for me
Yeah, but I'm not really in that anymore. I'm hungry games book comes out next year
Yeah, so I'll probably head right back into that. Yeah, and I'm kind of if the guy from from house the dragon, tom glen carney, won't play
a cool edgy nose full name, if he's playing haymitch, which i did see a rumour which could
be so fucking good, it'd be great for him. he'd be amazing. he'd be so good. it would be great for him. he could be a new crush. a new crush? a revived crush? a re-ignited crush. crush yeah back from the dead
do you have any crushes of the like celeb? no don't think so no I don't either
it's been a bit dry recently yeah dry spell I did put salt burn on the other day and I
was like whoa whoa that's a crazy one oh god it's deadly but yeah I do have one
I'm really gutted that I can't really remember who it is.
I saw something recently.
Oh, it was Kieran Culkin.
God, I'm dumb.
It's like I saw something recently
and I was overwhelmed.
Yeah.
It was literally Kieran Culkin, absolutely moron.
He's a cutie pie.
He really is, it's just charisma.
I think that's my main thing that I love.
Oh my god, 100%.
Also, we always talk about this. We should talk about this in an episode about like types and stuff. It really is, it's just charisma. I think that's my main thing that I love. Oh my god, 100%.
We always talk about this.
We should talk about this in an episode
about types and stuff.
But we always talk about specific thing,
I think this is a big thing for me,
of a man being quite instinctual
in his behavior and mannerisms.
And when I was watching Kieran the other day,
I just thought, you're so instinctual,
you've got the thing that I like.
Unaware.
Like just in your body.
Himself.
Just pulling himself.
Just like that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I really am into it.
Do you think you're gonna keep getting massages next year?
I hope so, because I found a really cheap place.
Yeah, that's good.
25 pounds, guys, for half an hour,
which is really cheap for a massage.
I would like to as much as I can.
Yeah.
Like it's really, God, it feels so luxurious to be like I'm getting a massage.
I had two in a week running. Yeah. Like one Monday and then the next Monday I had one and that was just like whoa
that feels like insanely amazing. I
think I've got like a trap nerve situation in like my shoulder.
Do you remember when we
went to get massages, right?
This sounds nuts, before Benjamin Button the musical.
Yes.
When we say went to get massages,
there was a woman doing free massages in a room.
And we said, we queued and said, can we go next?
And it was great.
It was amazing.
Loved every second.
After that.
And they were in severe pain afterwards.
Yeah, so then we went to Benjamin Button
and I was like, oh, it's right here on my shoulder.
Yes.
And you just took your bra strap off.
I just took my bra strap off
and I was having the thing that I thought I'd be having
back when I said about if I went to see
the Kieran Culkin thing and I'd be coughing throughout.
You know when you're in a crowd
or you're like sat watching something
and it's like-
Shuffling around.
I don't wanna be the one disturbing everybody.
So my shoulder was kind of painful in Benjamin Button. I was like shifting slightly and I's like shuffling around. I don't want to be the one disturbing everybody. So my shoulder was kind of painful and Benjamin Button I was like shifting slightly and I was
like oh god I feel like everyone's like knowing that I'm shifting and it's distracting everyone.
I didn't know this. Yeah it's really good. Like we checked in the thankfully in the interval I was
like god in so much pain and you were like I'm in so much pain I was like okay thank god you were
like I'm so glad you're in pain and it's not just me that I'm that I've done serious damage
Yeah, I thought like oh my god, like my back like so much
But worse like yeah, I thought it was like fuck this is so horrible
And then as soon as you said you were yeah, I was like, oh my god, it's the mouse. Oh, yeah
I was like fuck something is seriously wrong here. Like something's up with me yeah and then the
other day I was walking down the street just picked up some photos that I'd
printed really nice and as soon as I left the building put my bag on my
shoulder oh I literally was like and I kind of yelped out like a little dog in pain
oh my god and I had to like stop for a second and kind of stretch my and it
just hasn't gone back since oh but it it's really yeah, not good. So just thought everyone should hear about that
So wait, so what do you do about that? Do you think it's gonna go away or like do you need to have a massage or something?
I think I might need to have a massage
I think you might need, maybe I need a sauna and a massage
I think I need a massage
And just like a lovely day in general
I think I just need everyone to love me and just be nice to me.
That sounds so nice.
Yeah, I need to sort it out.
Okay, Happy New Year everyone when it comes.
That sounds delightful, Happy New Year!
Next episode, should we talk about like, oh that'll be the 24th so it's Christmas Eve so we'll go full Christmas.
Yeah, let's go full Christmas tomorrow.
Alright. That's fun.
Ho, ho, ho.
Ho, ho, ho.
Merry Podmas.
What is it?
Why don't?
How do I still not know?
That's crazy.
Merry Podmas.
Merry Podmas.
And a happy new year.
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Blue Rodeo, Bare Naked Ladies, Honeymoon Sweet and Big Sugar, these are
just a few of my guests with great music and great stories. Canadian legend Bruce
Coburn will be on next week so don't miss it. Check out the Talk Music podcast
wherever you get your podcasts.
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