Good Hang with Amy Poehler - Abbi Jacobson and Ilana Glazer

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

Abbi Jacobson and Ilana Glazer are still rocking skinny jeans. Amy hangs with the 'Broad City' creators and co-stars and talks about their cosmic meeting, the making of their hit show, and the many ta...lents of Barbra Streisand. Host: Amy PoehlerGuests: Kate Arend, Kim Lessing, Abbi Jacobson, and Ilana GlazerExecutive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-BermanFor Paper Kite Productions: Executive producer Jenna Weiss-Berman, coordinator Sam Green, and supervising producer Joel LovellFor The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson, Belle Roman, Francis X Bernal Jr., Caroline Jannace, and Aleya Zenieris; audio producer Kaya McMullen; video editor Drew van Steenbergen; and booker Kat SpillaneOriginal Music: Amy Miles Get anything delivered on Uber Eats. www.ubereats.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC Optimum Points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Good Hang. This is an exciting one. I'm starting this episode in Los Angeles and then I'm getting on an airplane and I'm flying to New York where I go to that studio and talk to Abby Jacobson and Alana Glazer, the stars of Broad City, the just the sweetest most wonderful talented women who in many ways helped my company Paper Kite grow and expand into what it is today. And I cannot wait to talk to them. We're gonna talk about Broad City, the show of course,
Starting point is 00:00:50 and getting that made and what it was like to do it together. We're gonna talk about female friendships. We're gonna talk about, you know, life as a millennial and how it's changed and what is nostalgia. And hopefully we're gonna get to all of those things. But I always like to start these episodes with people who know our guests, who have good feelings and thoughts about our guests, and want to give me questions to ask the guests. And I thought no better people to ask than the women who run Paper Kite Productions, the co-heads, the co-presidents of Paper Kite, Kate Arend
Starting point is 00:01:27 and Kim Lessing, who work with me every day and who are going to join me in this studio to talk about Abby and Alana. So ladies, welcome! This episode of Good Hang is presented by Walmart School Supplies. We all remember getting them. I remember Trapper Keepers and so many colored pens, but now I'm sure there's a million more things to get. And thankfully Walmart has essential back-to-school supplies starting at 25 cents, plus all the latest tech starting at nine dollars. Who knew? Hello Kitty pencil cases, Nintendo notebooks, food-shaped erasers, Chromebooks, keyboards, and more
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Starting point is 00:02:34 We have to run your company one second. And send. Send. Sorry. Okay. I'm so excited to interview you guys because we are here in the studio and next door to Paper Kite offices, which you co-run. And we're talking to Abby and Alana about Broad City.
Starting point is 00:02:53 And it just felt like it was such a great combo because in many ways you represent millennial and zillennial. No. Thank you. Or jillennial? No. Or jillennial. Jen why? Jen, no, I'm so cuspy.
Starting point is 00:03:09 You're cuspy. It's not what Jen's in. But not what the Z is in. Anyway, we'll represent, like, what, you two represent teamwork in many ways, and I wanna talk about that, but also you know what, how important that show was to Paper Kite and its growth.
Starting point is 00:03:26 So before we start, tell everybody what you do here at the company. What's your job? So Kim and I, as Amy said, we're the co-presidents of Paper Kite Productions, and we are in charge of the many incredible shows and movies that Paper Kite makes. Everything from Broad City to Russian Doll,
Starting point is 00:03:43 Difficult People, Harlem. Yeah, we're producers. We don't produce as a team. We actually produce separately. And we really take on projects based on our passion for them, our availability. Like, we really are... We like to describe ourselves as the engines of projects, the connectors of projects, and we really love every second of doing it. And we've both, we've been here working with Amy for 10 plus years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:10 And we'll never leave. That's right. She'll have to drag us out of here. We have the keys to this. Well, you do really have all the secrets. Yeah, and they're bad. I'm sorry, I'm so nervous. But like, I was just trying to do the math of the timing.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Oh, we both started on Broad City. Yeah, so tell me how you started on that show and like what your memories of the early Broad City days. Well, I actually started on the Comedy Central side. So I was like thrilled to get this job at Comedy Central because they were making Broad City and then I ended up leaving Comedy Central to come work with you and I got to work even closer to the ladies on Broad City, and then I ended up leaving Comedy Central to come work with you, and I got to work even closer to the ladies on Broad City. And it was like, I knew I was in the right place because I felt like I was making something
Starting point is 00:04:51 that actually genuinely represented my life and genuinely represented the types of friendships I was having. So when I first interviewed with Amy, I had just watched season one of Broad City, and I remember being like, holy shit, I've never seen queens like this on TV before. Like no one's ever existed like this on television. My age, doing the kind of stuff my friends and I do, speaking the way that we speak. And my first day of Paper Kite, Amy and I did notes on a season two episode and I was like, is this real life?
Starting point is 00:05:20 Like what is happening? And- That was your first day? Yeah. Well, maybe my second, but yeah. I got to like send my boss at the time my notes on the cut, one of the first cuts of, I think I started on season three actually,
Starting point is 00:05:33 and she used some of them and I was like, I've made it to entertainment. I was like, I'm in. I was like so happy. But we used to do a lot of like, are you Abby, are you Anna, are you who's who? It wasn't a hard one to really say. I wanna talk about it,
Starting point is 00:05:46 because what was so cool about, what is so cool about that show is it creates these versions of like friends. And, you know, much like, you know, back in the day, like Laverne and Shirley, or even the Golden Girls, or Sex and the City. Like when you start being like, are you an Abby or an Alana? What I think underneath that is it proves like the writing is good,
Starting point is 00:06:10 that you've identified what version of you. It was such a specific friendship that it was completely and utterly universal. Like, you just, everyone was either an Abby or an Alana. So what are you, Kim? I'm obviously Alana because I'm like head over heels in love with Kate and always have been and always try to touch her butt. It started with me being like can I touch?
Starting point is 00:06:32 And then she's like you're being like oh sorry, sorry. I mean I would never do that at work. That's not okay at the work. But like when we left the office. But when we left the office like on the way to the car. In the parking lot. And so Kate you are an Abby. I'm Abby. She's also a the car. Yeah. In the parking lot. And so, Kate, you are an Abby. I'm Abby. She's also a deadhead.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah. Totally. Yeah. And we both love Oprah. So that kind of stuff. Yeah. And you guys have that crazy Oprah connection where you both like her. So for people who don't know about what we do, right?
Starting point is 00:06:59 So we're a film and production company. We do all different kinds of projects, animated, unscripted, we do half hours, we do hour long dramas. But Broad City, we use it a lot as an example when we're talking to creators about young creators who have an idea and want to transfer it. And could you speak a little bit to how we use it as an example? We always say Broad City is our North Star and it is the North Star. I think if you were a young female creator in comedy in the last 10 years, that's it. Like they did the thing that everybody
Starting point is 00:07:37 wished they could do that men have been doing for a long time. There was truly, like we said before, no one liked them. So we always refer to them as kind of, they're enmeshed in our ethos as a company. Yeah, and they have a lot of elements of things that we really resonate with, like scrappy underdogs, women who love each other, people that are like, with, have like messy edges, and also two characters that really want something. Like, what I always related to about Abby and Alana is even though they were like silly and messy, they always really went after the things they wanted. Like they went after with such passion. Yeah and they took such good care of each other which is such friendship is so important to us. We had a conversation day one if there's any sense of competition or jealousy we have to talk about
Starting point is 00:08:19 it. We have to get it out because it will just sit in and fester and make it stressful and miserable. And communication just, we were smart enough to know then that it was the thing that was gonna get us through. And today, 11 years later, it's still, we're so brutally honest with each other. And then we say thank you to the other person that we can be so brutally honest with each other. And I feel like Abby and Alana were like that. Totally, and just the other day, for example,
Starting point is 00:08:43 Kate was like, you interrupted me a thousand times, and I was like, thank you so much for letting me know. We both cried, because it was so nice. We both cried, and I was like, I'm so glad you feel comfortable telling me. She was like, I'm so glad you're gonna stop. Yeah. It's true.
Starting point is 00:08:58 We talk about it a lot here, like, you know, a workplace is, I like to say it's not a family, it's a country. And I like to say it's not a family, it's a country. And I like to say it's a family. We reject that, but that's great. Lovers are family. It's a bed full of lovers. It's a bed full of lovers who are all related.
Starting point is 00:09:10 It is not. A family of lovers. It's a family that everyone borrowed money from each other. That's right. No, a workplace is a country and it has its own culture and language and stuff. And it's a family of people who are all related. And I like to say it's a family. And I like to say it's a family.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And I like to say it's a family. And I like to say it's a family. And I like to say it's a family. And I like to say it's a family. And I like to say it's a family. And I like to say it's a family. And I like to say it's a family. And I like to say it's a family. And I like to say it's a family. And I like to say it's a family. And I like to say it's a family that everyone borrowed money from. That's right. No, a workplace is a country and it has its own culture and language and set of rules. And so one of the things I think that our country believes in is that in our experience,
Starting point is 00:09:38 female friendships are a natural resource. They are like the most important things in our life and for the most part they're not like these competitive awful like you know experiences they're often like the most supportive experiences and I feel like you're talking exactly about that. That women often come together and help each other in real time and that help is you know, like rooting for other people's success never gets in the way of your own basically. But that it's hard to remember that sometimes. And I think a lot of work environments are not conducive.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Like ours was easy. You're our mentor. Like it was easy to be like, let's team up, you know? But it sometimes takes a lot of work, but I think there's never a time when it's not worth it just to try. It's like reach out a hand and be like, let's be, let's be a team instead of enemies. Like rising tide. Yeah. Rising tide. Like I think, I actually think you said that once and I, it was the first time I'd heard. I think you're right. You know, I have a laptop. Let's,
Starting point is 00:10:42 let's see who can find who said that faster. Okay, Kim gets work. Kim, move over. Hey, I can do it faster. Immediately friends. Horizon Tide lifts all boats, is an aphorism associated with what we know, oh, it's attributed to John F. Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:10:59 He thinks there is no way. There is literally no way. That guy gets so much credit he doesn't deserve. How dare you? I know you're obsessed. He is the first Irish Catholic, there's nothing wrong with JFK. He's literally so handsome, relax.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Guys off. My grandmother had a picture of Jesus and JFK in her house. Right in her house. We had such different grandmas. So that brings me to Million Dollar Advice. We're talking about the podcast that you two are doing. It's going to be, the new season is going to be launching very soon. Tell us about what that podcast is.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Okay. So our show, Million Dollar Advice, is a work advice podcast where we have people call and email in and we answer their work related questions. So it can be anything from like, how do I deal with my shitty boss to Kim's dine for a question about what to do if your coworker owes you money. I feel like there's questions you guys are not asking us about like you loan someone money for something and they just haven't paid you back. How do you ask?
Starting point is 00:12:02 Like, how do you ask? When's it too soon? When's it gone on too long? That's a great question. That's a good question. But basically, Kim and I, because of this amazing communication and partnership that we have,
Starting point is 00:12:14 we're like, we gotta share this because we're in on something that- And our advice is so good. It's million dollar advice. It's at minimum million dollar advice. It's so good. And we get each other through everything. And so many people don't have this kind of like work,
Starting point is 00:12:28 friend work sounding weird. They don't have an Alana to their Abby. Or Kate to their Kim, some would say. So we wanna do that for people. And our first season is like full of the types of questions we're interested in answering and we're hoping for that money questions. Yeah, so we're making more.
Starting point is 00:12:45 How can people send in questions? MillionDollarAdvicePod at gmail.com and they can send an email, you can leave a voice note, whatever your fancy is and we'll get back to you and answer your- We'll figure out if you want to call in. We'll solve all your problems, we'll fix your life. That's the thing, it's like, you're wondering, like, how do I fix my life?
Starting point is 00:13:02 What do I do? It's like so easy. Email MillionDollarAdvicePod at gmail.com, it's like, you're wondering, how do I fix my life, what do I do? It's like so easy, email million dollar advice pod at gmail.com and it's done. Okay, perfect. And then I'm gonna get an airplane, I'm gonna fly to New York. That's great. What question do you think I should ask Abby and Alana?
Starting point is 00:13:17 I have a good one. I think I have a really good one. So when you make a show together, it's like having a new baby, like you're all work all the time. And I was curious like what things they did to fill their friendship cup and make sure that they were still like in love
Starting point is 00:13:32 and like staying in love during like the most, the hardest, longest hours. That's- Great question. I know. Million dollar advice. We're gonna check that out. We're gonna talk about it more.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Abby and Alana, we're going to see them in New York. Thank you guys so much for coming across the street to this studio from our offices. Thanks for having us. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. Summer is here and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered by Uber Eats. What do I mean by almost? Well, you can't get a
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Starting point is 00:14:45 It's very exciting. Abby and Alana are here today. My children, wives, sister, partners in crime. I'm very excited you guys are here. Thank you for doing this. We're so excited to be here. I was thinking about our talk today. There's just so many things to talk about today and I was like so excited.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Oh my gosh. Like I have a paper and everything. For people that don't know, you know, Broad City was a long running show on Comedy Central that Abby and Alana wrote and starred in and directed and produced and created. And it was and is like this really important show for a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And I was thinking about the last scene today. What happened in the last scene? And what were you trying to say in it? And has it lasted? That scene came as a vision to Paul W. Downs. You remember that? That's right. He came in, we were writing,
Starting point is 00:15:42 we wrote part of season five in LA in an Airbnb, and Paul came in one morning and he was like, I had a flash of the last moment. And I think this is the scene where Alana exits the subway in Union Square and we've FaceTimed, right? And Alana's walking through the city and then the camera leaves Alana and sees the other pairs. I just got chills. I know. And he was like, that was like the thing.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And that was what we kind of had always talked about, which is just like we're one of like thousands and millions of pairs. And we had just been following us. But the New York of it all was like we were showcasing like, oh, there's Abhinavanas everywhere. Yes. And, you know, we end on, do you know Marie Falston and Sydney Washington, the standups? Sure. Yeah. But to end on Marie and Sydney was so perfect just because they're so delicious and they're such an iconic pair themselves. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Yeah. It's so, I think what we were trying to say is that we followed Abby and Alana, but everybody's got their, everybody's, if you're in your own life, oh, you're having your own adventures and your parties and New York is such a, always this like infinitely fruitful backdrop for the craziest shit to happen. I can't get over it. I've been here 20 years. I can't get enough. I know.
Starting point is 00:17:14 I know. I can't get enough. I know. And what it was and it still is, and is that what you did with that ending, I think, is you gave the show back to the people that loved it. And that's why I think that the DNA... Cry in the interview. Cry, cry, cry.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I love to get people to cry. I think it felt and still feels like one of the big reasons why that show sticks around is exactly what you said is people – they are the main characters of their own story. Everyone is. And everyone feels like they're living a life that feels very much like Abby and Alana's life. Like how am I piecing together a life in real time? And the fact that that ending was like passing the baton, it's very deep. And I think it has to do a lot with what we're going to talk about today in real time. And the fact that that ending was like passing the baton, it's very
Starting point is 00:18:05 deep. And I think it has to do a lot with what we're going to talk about today in your work. So for those people that don't know, let's go back in time. Time traveler. To little tiny babies. Alana's 19. Wow. Right? And Ab, you're what? You guys met what age and where did you meet? How did you two? 22. 22.
Starting point is 00:18:27 This is so funny that this... Well, I knew this was happening, but... This is 19 years ago. Wow. 19 years ago, my dog. Yeah. This is actually... This is crazy that I did this last week.
Starting point is 00:18:37 We met in a improv... Did what last week? Oh, I'm going to get to... Oh, cut it out. We met... In... I did Iowasco last week and I went right back there say that. Oh, cover that. We met. In Iowa's cover. I did Iowa's cover last week and I went right back there.
Starting point is 00:18:48 It's a 22 in here. No, but we were in an improv practice group. Like, we were both taking classes at UCB. I had just graduated college, moved here. You were still at NYU. You know, you take classes at UCB and then like, you gotta form a practice group like after school or like at night, after your day job. Our mutual friend Tim Martin, I remember he was like, I'm in this class with these two
Starting point is 00:19:15 brother and sister and they're great, like can they come and practice with us? And we were like, yeah. And Elliot and Alana came and I was like, this girl's on Arrested Development. That's crazy. Like how is she to have time to get off of Arrested Development? It just ended and I was like, it makes sense. She's in New York. Makes sense, you have like a huge network show
Starting point is 00:19:38 and then you go to practice and pro groups. And then my practice group in New York. Just makes sense. Well, I mean, this is how I remember it. This is my side. And then we go to McManus that night. Which is a bar nearby the theater. And we're sitting at the bar, you and me,
Starting point is 00:19:55 and it was like other, it was only guys in the group except us. And we're talking, we're like, where are you from? And I was like smitten with this person like everyone that meets Alana is. I was like, this person is unlike anyone I've ever met. And not like any of my friends and we were just like... And she was like, I'm from Long Island. And I was like, whoa, like two of my best friends from college are from Long Island. She's like, I'm from Smithtown.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I was like, so are they. And I was like, and then I said their names and you were like, I know them. And I was like, this is not the girlfriend. Oh my God, I'm going to cry. But I remember you were like, I know them. And I was like, this is not the government. Oh my God. But I remember you were, I'm going to cry as well. Wait, Alana's crying. What's making you cry? When she said smitten, I started crying.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Oh my gosh. It's just so sweet. And I remember, you know, dramatically falling under the bar that we knew, you know, these two same people. It's like we're Jews. We're from the tri-state area, like not that big a deal. But I was, oh, I was changed that I knew these two people I knew. I think what you were saying, what was underneath that is like, that the universe, like, it's
Starting point is 00:20:58 why it's so thrilling to look back at how things come together, because the smallest changes in our lives go in a completely different way and what you were noticing like the universe was giving you some signs of familiarity basically like it's you know I believe in past lives it's like yeah oh we knew each other before like that's the universe just like making sure you have something to talk about so you spend five more minutes walking so then you say 15 minutes talking so then you do it show together Right, wait real quick. So on Friday, I was in Chelsea and I where I was going. I'm like
Starting point is 00:21:37 Confronted with McManus. Wow. Wow, and I said McManus the first time I like almost made a joke it's like so rude, but like a dumpster with bars like with bars, like, you know, nailed into this. It's not exactly a bar. So, McAnus is a bar in New York City for people that are listening. That used to be kind of the place where everybody after improv shows would hang out. And it was like green paper tablecloths at the time. And the French fries.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And the green leather seats. It's just like, yeah, it's like ass grooves, and it's never been changed out. Like, you're sitting in our ass grooves in McAnus. Because it's never been updated. Like the people in the back were like unattainable. Like at that point, we were like up at the front, like being like, there was this hierarchy at UCB that we never climbed.
Starting point is 00:22:14 We only climbed it outside of UCB through Broad City. But yeah, the further back you went at McManus. Like an invisible velvet road. Yeah. But I walked in, I went in the side door. Wow. It's crazy. Sticky floors.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I went in and we went there so much after that moment, but I walked in. We even shot in there. We shot like the cocktail cold open in McManus. We needed to shoot there. But I walked in and just remembered that moment I just said of you and I at the bar. Wow. That's a real time travel moment. And so you meet and you're like, you're not Ali Ashokwat, but I will have you two be in a scene many years later in Broad City. But
Starting point is 00:22:57 you say, okay, I see something in you. I love being with you. We like being with each other. And then you start creating. What is the, would you remember like when that creative content stuff started? Like, you know, I think being in this improv group, it wasn't like we got so much duo time. There was something like a grit that was like a tension, that was not the same, the difference between us that when rubbed
Starting point is 00:23:25 together, you know, created this spark, this like difference, the differences about us that we were like, that's funny. That's funny. And I think also as women and as young women, it's you're kind of safer together. So it's it's like, you're gonna cry. Yeah, oh no, Abby's correct. It's, I love it, it's so good. Why'd we get our makeup done? We got makeup done. Yeah. We're not gonna get through any questions. Abby, you're so.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Let's cry the entire time. I'm gonna get one on back. I'll get a tissue. Tissue on the back. I love it so much. I'm feeling asleep. But it's like, you know, I think it's so much about sameness when you're young,
Starting point is 00:24:03 when you're a young woman, but we were, I think, secure enough with each other to recognize our differences and it tickled us. And beyond our sense of humor that was both, you know, Venn diagram shared and different, it was also like our work ethic. We were like desperate to make a spreadsheet, you know? Yeah. And we're like, we had these ideas and we were like desperate to list them neatly. Yeah, I mean, truly. Neatly, like, I mean, that is, I think, a lot of like your, when you get out of college in that time period where you're like, I need to give myself a job.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I need to be busy because I've, you know, up until now schoolwork has kept me busy and like the course or whatever that I've been on has kept me busy. But you're like, now I have to structure my own busyness. I have to create busy things. Something that's just that's coming up for me is all three of us having worked so much in food and service, you know, and there's so much busyness in that, you know, it's just texted you about steamers landing. You just texted me. Oh, yeah. What was the what was that place you worked? Was it actually called Steamer's Landing? Like, disgusting. Even if they still exist. I bet the French fries are good though at Steamer's Landing.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Yeah, but in Broad City, Paul Mucci had changed it in a script to Dumpers Post. And I remember we were at the office and we were like first reading a script that they got back to us. I fell to my knees, like bent over a couch, fell to my knees, dumpers. And we're talking about Paul Downs and Lucia Añelo who went on, are now creators of Hacks and who wrote and directed and produced with you and us Broad City. So like they also have their, baby versions of this experience. That's right. Well, we, so we did this improv group for, like, two years before doing anything Broad City.
Starting point is 00:25:54 But it was, it was the two of them, actually, who we made one episode of Broad City, the web series. And we were, like, again, as Alana said, so organized, so organized. And it was the two of them who saw it and emailed us and loved it. The first webisode came out and they emailed us. So when you guys were in your second season of this web series in 2011, I was down the street living in the West Village and I get a text from a Upright Citizens Brigade teacher, was it Wilhines? And he said, hey, check out Abby and Alana. They're doing some great web series stuff, and they wanted to know if you want to do it. And so I watched a bunch of your stuff,
Starting point is 00:26:43 and I thought it was really funny, and it was shooting right down the street from my house. And you two asked me to come do a small bit. We were like running away. And I remember oranges fell on me at one point. I don't remember anything about the plot. What was the plot? There was barely a plot. What was the plot?
Starting point is 00:27:00 It doesn't matter. We were running. We were running. And we were trying to get a cookie. Spoiler, a cookie. The plot was very Brad City. We were running. We were running. And we were trying to get a cookie. Spoiler. A cookie. The plot was very Brad City. We were running to get a cookie.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And then after that, as far as I remember, very soon after you sent me an email saying what? I remember this very well. That last episode of the web series, we knew we wanted it to be the last one. It was like more production value. We like worked with this director who, it was just like bigger. And we emailed you with the cut maybe of it
Starting point is 00:27:37 and said, this is our, we've been thinking and we want to go to LA and pitch us as a show. Would you ever consider being the executive producer on it? We were also like kind of excited that we were like pretty much the same height. And when we first met and was just like, this is funny, you know, like... Yeah, we all love being short. Literally seeing eye to eye. And I remember being like, well, we might send it to Jonah Hill.
Starting point is 00:28:01 And we knew we were going to ask you, but we weren't going to ask you on the spot that day. I'm just here to say it was a genius move to say you were going to send it to Jonah Hill and we knew we were gonna ask you but we weren't gonna ask you on the spot that day I'm just here to say it was a genius move to say you were gonna send it to Jonah Hill Girl incredible move. Girl your face. I will never forget. If you hadn't mentioned it. She goes like this. She goes That's what you did. I remember being like whoa whoa whoa what? I remember just being like she was like pissed immediately Immediately like in the race. Like taking like immediately because I am competitive. But I remember thinking like, no, we Jonah Hill can't take.
Starting point is 00:28:31 You have broads. Like so... And this was not a ploy. No. Yeah, I think you're like whatever. Jonah Hill. You know what I mean? Whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:39 But like, you know, but I remember your, your expression, you know, and, and like, I don't know. I remember just thinking later, like, you know, and like, I don't know. I remember just thinking later, like, you know, it's always smart to, it's like in relationship, it's okay sometimes to be like, you're not the only one circling here, honey. I'm dating, babe. I'm dating. You think I'm just waiting around? Yeah, I'm not gonna, okay, this, we're okay.
Starting point is 00:29:00 So, so you sent me the email and I was like, let's go we're in and we started developing together And I just say one thing. Yeah you your response to that email I think was the biggest celebration of the entire ten years. I remember it was it was on I Think I chose you and I was like shooting some short film upstate upstate in the middle. No, I was like a lot You clearly didn't open your email open open your email. And like, we were freaking out. I was like, I think I had to leave a party. I left a birthday party. It was like, it was crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:32 That was it. Like, I remember all the other milestones, but you saying you were gonna, like, that was like your hero believes in you. That was crazy. Oh, and then you remember we met. Okay, you were like, well, let's meet about it. Oh.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Okay, let's meet about it. We met before we met for like a good hour. We were like, okay. Just to get our, just to like pre-vomit, you know what I mean? Yeah, we were like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we're like, what's it going to be like? It could be anything. And just in this hallway, like before we met, I was like this forever kiddo, Amy Poehler,
Starting point is 00:30:03 like you can just picture what your parents saw you as in the doorway at eight. Like you're always that like hey, you know, and like the way you just walked down the hallway to greet us, that was how you walk down the fucking street. She's like, hello, you know, like all sunshine, you're wearing these like cute sunglasses and a dress and it's just sunshine and this like, wearing these like cute sunglasses and a dress and it's just sunshine and this like, oh, you're like, your, your like heart is on your sleeve and it's you at eight. And we were like, that it was surreal. That was like really like trippy, gloopy. The whole lunch was like, as though I was tripping my balls off. After it as well. it as well. I don't know, it's been a whole day together around the meeting. Because I remember we were like, she watched every web, like you came with the legal pad,
Starting point is 00:30:50 you were like, we got to make a teaser. We made the teaser from the web episodes. The legal pad going through our silly little web episodes, what you thought of each one. And we were like, hum-ma-mum-ma. We were like, what is going on? The thoughts and the, I don't know, real opinions. And we were at, which I'm not going to say where, we were at a restaurant where we were like, this is clearly Amy's favorite restaurant.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Got like, you know, those like sort of... I was like saying hello to everybody. Hello George, how's your wife? Diane. And we're like, we'll just get toast. You know, like, we don't even know how to order at this time. Yeah. You know, what do you get? Well, we'll get that.
Starting point is 00:31:29 You know, like, just not even knowing how to have, like, be a person around. It's so funny. I mean, I have just nothing but, like, exciting bottom of show mountain memories of it. And, you know, I, the reason, one of the many reasons why I'm so thrilled that we're talking today is like, to put it in perspective for me, Broad City made me feel like a real producer. I had been producing on parks, I had produced other things and stuff that I had done and we had technically produced our UCB show even though we didn't know what that was, that was what we were doing.
Starting point is 00:32:03 And our sketches at SNL, but Broad City felt like the child that made me the mother. And it's still, when I think about it, I feel so proud to have been along for the ride and just being helpful in any way. But I learned so much from watching the two of you I learned so much from like trying to advocate for the show I learned so much about what I kind of stuff I wanted to make you know
Starting point is 00:32:34 fully crime Oh my god. It's just, oh my god. So many tunes. And then plus the voice, it's like gonna seem so insane. But it's like, dude, like, it's just like you, I don't want to cut you off. No, no, please. But it's like, you know, I remember this one time that we had lunch or whatever and like you talked about this sexual politic of the show.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And I was like, I remember like then we'd be like out talking and I'd be like, well, what we're really trying to do is the sexual politic of the show. Oh my God. Can I have like a full tissue? This gross half tissue. Talk about sexual politic for a second. Very I've said this before, immediately what I learned, and this is why I love, the best thing about getting older is being less and less certain about everything. If you're doing it right,
Starting point is 00:33:30 you're supposed to let go of the grasp of the things you think you know. And that is what I think young people do, people younger than you do. And even just the very simple way in which you guys approached your own bodies, your own bodies in space, your own bodies in the show. The way you approached, I mean, I remember very, specifically saying, you know, you know, if you don't want to get in your underwear for this scene. And the pilot.
Starting point is 00:33:57 And the pilot, if you guys feel uncomfortable and you're like, we wrote it, we are the ones writing that we're in our underwear and we're so comfortable with how the dynamic is in the scene. We're so like thank you, good looking out, but you're kind of missing the point in a way. And there was a lot of that for me where I watched how you two reminded me of like what I, what was like an old story or like old programming. Like I think it's what Brad City did a lot and still does. of what was an old story or old programming.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I think it's what Brad City did a lot and still does. I will say on that, I don't know how fully comfortable I was in those scenes, but I think that was also like, okay, over here we wrote it and I loved it so much and I knew that Abby as actor will have to deal with that when we get to the day. And for me, that like, I feel like that like Broad City was in a moment for me of like a little bit later, like huge growth, like I feel like I grew up a little later. I'm going to fully cry. And in so many ways because of Alana which is so
Starting point is 00:35:08 like the Abby and Alana that's what's happening like the confidence like like I think first of all like but the confidence like of the that dynamic of like, Abby is the insecure one and Alana's got this bravado and that's something that I was learning right alongside the character because that was real. Yeah. You know, like us being... Us being... Sorry, I'm laughing. We are. But us being the hottest women in any room is like, that was not how I approached going out.
Starting point is 00:35:50 And I would go out with Alana as a friend, and that would be like, and I don't know if that was a fake it till you make it, but that was the charge of like, yeah, you know who we are. And my ass is the hot, my ass being a hot thing was not something I ever thought we'd focus on so much. I still love it.
Starting point is 00:36:08 And then I was like, I only, like only through Alana, like that among many other things was like such a huge change for me. And I think like, so like us being in our underwear, I was like able to be like, I might not be comfortable, but like I know this is so right. And this is so powerful and like so funny. I mean, I think that's what female friendships at their best do, is they provide this, the opposite of a fun house mirror.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Like they provide this like beautiful mirror that you get to look in and see this version of yourself that your friend sees. And you're right, it's very, it's aspirational, it's kind of manifest-y, but it is like you are sexy if you say so and you're beautiful if you feel so and everybody is beautiful and sexy in their own way. And sometimes you just can't, you have to have like
Starting point is 00:36:57 a surrogate feel it for you. Yeah. And that's what you do for each other in female friendships and that's what exactly what Abby and Alana did constantly. It's just, and it's good for comedy, like for each other in female friendships. And that's exactly what Abby and Alana did constantly. And it's good for comedy. Like, pumping each other up is just funny. Oh, it's so funny. And to the point before of what I was saying
Starting point is 00:37:12 about sexual politic, you just validated us as women, not as girls. Everybody called us girls, even the people working for us. They called the girls whatever. You called us women at such a young time, where I was like, damn, I suppose we are. And then, you know, like with comedy, I mean, it's just, I just will never it's just the fucking best. Comedy is just the fucking best.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Why is it the best? Because it's like, it's, it's this cosmic container that just lifts you up off the ground of like the systems we're rooted in and just connects people so efficiently. It's so efficient, you know, just whatever. Obviously farts are the funniest. Someone farts. I disagree. I'm not the biggest fart is funny fan.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Like if somebody farts in a context where they're not supposed to, you don't giggle? I don't think, ish, it really depends. That was actually a big thing for us on the set of Parks and Rec, because people would fart and I'd be like, don't fart. Just like in life? Yeah, like on set. I don't know if that's a bad thing.
Starting point is 00:38:16 That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about- I mean, if they accidentally fart, I feel a little codependently worried about them. No, I mean, if somebody farts as a joke to invade your space with odor, that's not cool. That's like sibling. Yes That's like not shenanigans. We don't like that. What winter? Okay, so I remember a good fraud city fart I'm meeting your parents. It's at like your Shiva and Bob Balaban picks me up and we're like and we're adding a fart there
Starting point is 00:38:44 That's what I'm talking about. That changed your mind. I'm talking about professorial masterful fart comedy. That was really thoroughly thought out and intentional. But you're right. A little squeeze that comes into a little, like, and like, it's cute. But we added it. It was cute.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Maybe that's it. Maybe if the farts are cute. Like if they're cute. Oh, for sure. But I'm also talking about like adding a sound effect. We did just, we did add the sound effect. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We gotta make that clear.
Starting point is 00:39:12 We added it in post. I hear you. And then just to stay in the, to get us on the air, you write a script, we go to FX, we try to make it at FX, they pass. And we kind of have a moment where we have to regroup. I remember just going back to what you're talking about, maybe like when you felt like producer, I remember you would be the one that would have to deliver that news to us. I did.
Starting point is 00:39:38 I learned a lot. Yes, that was a bit... In real time, I was learning on the job. I was like all of us, sometimes at fake team making, you have to kind of pretend. And I remember thinking, right, my job here is to never let anyone feel like we're not going to solve this problem.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Because you're supposed to keep the ship in the water, and other people can steer it, but you have to make sure it doesn't sink. So I remember not quite knowing where we were going to go next, but feeling like I needed to make sure that you felt like we were going to go somewhere good. I think we did. And you did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:16 I'm remembering now another lunch at a place that we never would go, but we were like, totally, we'll meet you there. And it's going to be chill. I'm sorry. Anyway. So we like meant for lunch. Oh my God. And it's gonna be chill. Balthazar, anyway. So we met for lunch. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:40:28 But you were like... So, you know, lucky for us, Comedy Central had wanted us, which isn't always the case. And you were like, Fx is like a cold boyfriend. You don't even want them. Anyway, you don't want that boyfriend anyway. And it was like, yeah, I don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And that time, Comedy Central, maybe to let people know, we were in such good company. Who else was on the air during that time? Kean Peel. Kean Peel, workaholics who had a similar web to TV. Amy Schumer, Inside Amy Schumer, Crowell Show. Maybe Nathan for you. Yeah, that's right. Wow. Early Nathan Fielder.
Starting point is 00:41:07 It was such an incredible time. Why do you think it's sprung back in this way right now? It must feel good to have people still come up to you and say they love it and say who they think they are. It's also like such a newly, as we are, becoming literally middle-aged adults, it's such a sweet, such a sweet connective thing. When people talk about it, when we were younger, they thought we improvised it.
Starting point is 00:41:45 We were like, we worked so hard to write this over and over and over again. You know, it's just improv, it's slapped together, and that we're like stoned. Like if they're meeting us on the street, that we're stoned in that moment or whatever. They think you're stoned. We think we're the characters from the show. And like what it is now is like, it's just reached this like such a warm, sweet bed for connection. I don't know if you experience... I mean, we haven't for a second been out together, but that's a whole other thing.
Starting point is 00:42:13 And people are like, what are you guys doing on the street together? But my wife Jodie, she's like, this is unlike anything. To have someone witness it, she's like, you get this wild positive affirmation coming at you. That is so rare. That is a really, I feel very thankful all the time for that. Before we move off of the Broad City section, I do want to just for people that are big fans, hottest day on set, coldest day on set. Any memories of like when you were very hot, very cold? Everything was so sweaty, literally sweaty. And I don't know why I was always wearing
Starting point is 00:42:56 skinny jeans, so really added to it. Babe, it was the time. Alana sent me something where like something happened and I was like... You know what's gonna happen when you're 70? This is because this is now started to finally happen. Skinny jeans are gonna come back around. And people are gonna be like, this is so cool, these really tight skinny jeans. And you're gonna say, you know, I used to wear it. It's wild.
Starting point is 00:43:22 You're just hoping. Yeah, I don't know, but maybe. I mean, remember skinny jeans? I mean, what... I'm trying to think of like, still out there. They're still going out. They're still... I still see people in them. Yeah, I see millennials being like, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I don't care. I'm wearing skinny jeans. I feel organized in them. And I'm like, get it. Yeah, well, that's what I mean. It's just now it's like all the way around to, if you're wearing skinny jeans, you're a confident person. Yeah. You're, you know.
Starting point is 00:43:45 But I also had these straight down bags for a lot of the show. And I remember they would get, it'd be just be fully soaking wet. It's so hot. Sopping wet bangs. Marcelle would have to be like, we tried bangs, bangs.
Starting point is 00:43:59 That's so funny. That is so funny. And guest stars. Who comes to mind is people that when you just like pops into your head is like, oh, that was a fun day. That was a good moment. That was, there's so many great people that came through the show. Like RuPaul just cracks me up.
Starting point is 00:44:16 He was so, he was so like studying his lines and saying them to himself that I was like, damn. And I would say Kelly Ripa. I mean, just the way, just her being that version we wrote of her was wild. She was so excited, too. Like her joy was like, oh my God. Like she really wanted to be there and it was like so contagious. And do you remember Lady Gaga tweeting about the show?
Starting point is 00:44:44 How important that was? Yes, we were in the writers room. That was a season two, end of season one. She was like, oh my God, they used my song. My favorite, I think it was like my favorite show used my song. And we met her. She like asked us to come or, you know, invited us to a performance and we like went on her bus.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And like the thing she was... You went on a bus? Yeah, it was like right outside like performance or whatever. to a performance and we like went on her bus and like the thing she was doing. You didn't go on a bus? Yeah, it was like right outside like performance or whatever. And she was so kind being like, you remind me when I watch your show, I feel like I'm not famous and I'm young again and like just running around the city before all of this, which you know, she was clearly grateful for but also was clearly quite heavy. And it was so many years ago, it was like before now she's like such a woman.
Starting point is 00:45:26 It was 20 years ago. We got her song. I mean how did we even afford her song? How did we afford her song? I have no idea. We paid for it but how did we get it? It was like if someone involved liked the show, someone's manager or something. I don't know. Whoopi. Whoopi came and did a wordless background role of Sister Mary Karens.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah, that was wild. That was wild. And I remember meeting her and being like, and she comes in the trailer, she is such a badass, so herself, the same, she's exactly who you'd think she is. And we were just acting totally cool. And we were also in stages that were illegal and an abandoned building, essentially. And I was like, well, she was leaving and I was like, thanks so much. It meant so much to me.
Starting point is 00:46:14 And then she left and I immediately turned around and wept and cried in rubble, in like Bushwick rubble that we were filming in for some reason. Because she was so, not only did she do our show but like such a real ass bitch such a like a comedy girl real Woman oh my god Shania Twain. I think about that a lot actually cuz we we got her to say man I feel like a smoothie She was like that was like so crazy. Yeah. I know.
Starting point is 00:46:50 She did that for... I mean... You're pointing at me. You. Oh, boy. I'm like, that should be a show. That was The Bear. We did The Bear before The Bear.
Starting point is 00:47:00 You did The Bear before The Bear. We did The Bear before The Bear. It's true. You're right. And for people, there was a scene where I was in the back of the kitchen and there was a whole drama with me and Seth Morris. You guys were exes. We were exes and we just created a little bit of a thing.
Starting point is 00:47:13 And you're right. You know what? The bear stole. The bear stole from Broad City. You heard it here first. And you directed that. Yeah. I mean, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:47:22 What the fuck? So we do this thing where we talk to people about our guests before they come on. And I was really trying to think about who I wanted to talk to. And what organically came up for me was Kim Lessing and Kate Ehrens, the producers, co-heads of Paper Kite, have worked together for 10 plus years. They are millennials and they started when Brad City was, I think Kate's second or third day was, we were doing notes on like episode two of Brad City. So I asked them what they would wanna know from you
Starting point is 00:47:55 and from a workplace perspective, they were curious, how did you to keep your relationship, your actual intimate friendship healthy while you were working together? And like, as you've gone on to work on other things, like what, how do you keep your workplace healthy knowing what you know now and how did you do it then too? How do you like to work and what do you bring into your work to keep it healthy? As incredible as it was to make Broad City, it was like, we would like always make sure
Starting point is 00:48:25 to have a little time up top to connect and catch up. LOL, catch up from 12 hours ago or whatever it was. But like, you know, but like, it just, it feels like so, I don't know, so human to now have dinner and just be, lately we have been like crying so much. It's been so... It's so like juicy and delicious and nutritious and sweet. But at the time, it was very much slotted in to catch up. And things would always make their way into the comedy, which is cool, but it's not the same as it being its own just for the sake of its own beauty, you know? And I think we knew that the catching up,
Starting point is 00:49:06 it was like the catching up was essential for the thing. Like we knew that like it's so derived from us, so like we had to kind of like catch up. I mean like, okay, that's a, write that down for this thing. What helped you during those times? Like what was the stuff you like, did you pick your battles? Did you?
Starting point is 00:49:26 Well, I think something also was like, I'm thinking about it too, because there was tension, rise and release of tension constantly. And I think a lot of it was boundaries and space and being like, see ya later. And taking the space. Well, we didn't hang out,
Starting point is 00:49:41 I think when we were doing it, we would see you on Monday. We weren't as our friends anymore. We weren't hanging out as friends during Broad City. We couldn't hang out. I think when we were doing it, we weren't like, we would see you on Monday. We weren't like as our friends anymore. We weren't hanging out with friends during Broad City. We couldn't. So it's almost like you had to put that a little bit aside, just like not let it atrophy, but not give it a lot of oxygen while you were doing the show.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Yeah, it was very like after school club. You know what I mean? In that it's like this thing of like slotting in 45 minutes to talk before we focus. It's like, it wasn't, it in 45 minutes to talk before we focus. It's like it wasn't it is so like it feels so beautiful now to like just not have a task at hand, you know But during that time even though we weren't on the weekends
Starting point is 00:50:17 I would be like, you know, if something was happening, I'd be like a lot of I'm going on a date I like what am I what do I wait? It wasn't like, don't speak to me. It was just like, after truly like 12, 14 hours of Monday through Friday, we were like, let's not. Do dinner on Saturday. Who did you go on the date with and what did you wear? Well, I do, I honestly will remember, I remember like, this is post-Broad City.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I saw you the day before I met Jodie. Oh my God. And I was like, tell me what I'm gonna wear. Your beautiful wife, Jodie. And Alana was like, should we? Wait, tell us that story. You were going on a date with Jodie. We were in LA and you were staying at Liz's house
Starting point is 00:50:53 and I was like, I'm going on a date by going on a date. It was like so deep COVID. She was like coming over to my house, to the patio. And I was like, I think I'm just gonna wear like, I know what I wore. I was like, I'm just gonna wear a sweater and like black. I don't know, like we were still doing that. And you were like, I think I'm just gonna wear like, I know what I wore. I was like, I think I'm just gonna wear a sweater and like black, I don't know. Like we were still doing that and you were like,
Starting point is 00:51:08 yeah, black don't do too much, you know? Totally, what you wear on a date's really important. Because it says a lot. I'm excited, I'm not excited, I don't care. I wanna have sex, I don't want it. Like there's a ton of things happening. And it worked because you bagged that babe. Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:26 You bagged her. You bagged that babe. That babe was obsessed. And y'all are so beautiful and romantic. Like, you're such a beautiful couple. Oh my God, so like, also hot. Hot. Hot as fuck.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Beautiful, and both of you have had a very busy 10 years. You become a mom, both of you have gotten married. You both done a ton of different projects that you're writing, creating. There's so much that's happened. I guess I was curious, a lot of motherhood is a big creative center in a lot of your work. You talk about it a lot on stage. You made a movie about it, babes.
Starting point is 00:52:07 You have this way in which you're peeling that onion a lot. What's it brought? How has it expanded you and your work? It just has organized everything for me appropriately. Things are just in their right place now, like in my heart and it's been so creative. And work also like is work. It's not, and it's a creative context, but it's not like how I figure out who I am. It's a part of who I am. Yeah, I just feel correctly organized. That's very cool, Ab.
Starting point is 00:52:45 What about the past 10 years with all the different projects you're working on and worked on, how has that changed your creative? I'm curious about you as a fine artist too. You come from a fine art world. Like people don't know, for people who don't know, in what way do you express yourself that way? And is it always changing? I don't do that much anymore.
Starting point is 00:53:14 You're good at drawing, girl. I, thank you. Do you want me to say it? I did, I went to art school. You went to art school. I went to art school and I like, I'm, a big like goal of mine would be to do to get back into painting and do have like a show.
Starting point is 00:53:30 What do you like about painting? I think I'm in my head a lot, which I think is something that we really bonded over. Yeah. And it's very meditative for me. But like I've painted two and a half paintings in the past two years You should say you're the painter that makes one painter a year and then everybody comes and watches you finish it That's what a guy would do. I know that's right. No, I'm dying to do it. Like it I think it's just like he'd be like Yeah, it's so cool that I am
Starting point is 00:53:59 Be like I only do two and a half. Yeah, and everyone will be like, he's a genius. Yeah, a withholding genius. You're right. God, he's genius. It takes me a whole year to do it. Exactly. And can I ask you about Prelude? Yeah. Can you talk about it?
Starting point is 00:54:14 Oh my God. Yes, I forgot I told you all about it. Oh, and you did the thing. I did the thing. Do you want to talk about it a little bit? Yeah, we're in the thick of it right now. Okay, so Prelude is this fellowship program I created with Mika Tennant, who's like my partner.
Starting point is 00:54:27 And it's an eight-month program where there's 10 fellows that we select, and it's early, early, early career storytellers. And so there's 10. We set them up with mentors, and there's ongoing programming with—they have mentorship every month. We have programming every month that I run the programming every month. I have people come in and talk where I ask them questions. Amy kicked it off, which was like they still talk about that. They still like cannot believe that you came.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Of course. And so I'm realizing that like for me, like the success is that they have confidence in themselves. And that's like the best that we can like that they have confidence in themselves. And that's the best that we can... That would be my goal. They all leave feeling like they have confidence and that they have... They know that someone believes in them,
Starting point is 00:55:16 which truly, just to go back full circle, which is what you did for us... And I said this to you on the day, I'm gonna cry again. When I had you, that you believing in us and what we were doing, like, I think is what, like, has fueled us to do everything we've done since. And I'm like, if I could do that for them, that is, yeah. That is so cool, Abby. So awesome.
Starting point is 00:55:40 It's, and it really does feel kind of like crying again. Everybody who's listening crying again. I just want to ask about Good Night and Good Luck because Alana, it's very exciting. A Broadway debut is such a singular goal. Did you have it? Did you ever have that goal? Did you want to be on Broadway? I am accentuating the way. I believe it's supposed to be Broadway.
Starting point is 00:56:12 It wasn't really in my, I didn't think about it as, especially since I had a child, it's so time consuming. And since I've kind of got my stand-up and touring, now I get it. How to do it, how I do it. So Broadway, you're so in someone else's control. I just hadn't thought about it. It was such an incredible experience. You know, it reminds me of Broad City.
Starting point is 00:56:39 And then also, before that, the early days of comedy. You're just seeing the same people night after night after night. George Clooney was the co-writer and star of this performance. How is our man George? An angel. An angel. He is an angel. He is my hero.
Starting point is 00:56:56 He is my hero from like the personal human being to the public figure. He is, oh my gosh, it was such a privilege to perform his writing. And you know, Ab, we don't have to get into it, but you had a beautiful relationship in League of Their Own. What was the best takeaway of that show? Oh, I was just talking to Darcy about it.
Starting point is 00:57:19 I know, our great Darcy Carden. The most kissable. I know, and just so. So it makes sense. She is kissable. I know. She was kissable. So funny. Because I was like, because I kissed Paul so much on Brad city. And then I was like, I guess I'm going to kiss another one of my really close friends.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Listen, we kiss our friends. But it also was like, I found like, I don't know, like, I don't know, I think I'll do that forever. I'm in love with my friends. And friends and there's already that chemistry there. But I guess in the middle of Broad City is when I was like, wow, I think I like women too.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Which was like, obviously, Lana was very much there for me during that. And then I was like, like everything else, I want to put that in the show. And that was very that in the show. Right. And that was very much in the show with Clea, who, like that was so fun and I was so happy that that lined up to get to have that on Broad City. It was like truly us, like getting to explore what was happening to me, what was happening with Abby and like differently, but the same, which was, which was incredible to be able
Starting point is 00:58:24 to do that. And then on League, I loved making that show. It was very hard in a lot of different ways. It was a period show. It was like baseball. It was the inner workings of Amazon is not Comedy Central. There was a lot more money. And at the end of the day, I was like, I'm writing this ensemble. And everybody, it is just a, I was like, I'm writing this ensemble.
Starting point is 00:58:45 And everybody, like it is just a bigger sort of like friend group. And so I was like that, like to expand that into like a group was like incredible. And then to get to write this love story with Darcy was like, it was a dream. People really responded to that relationship and that story. Yeah, it's been a really cool, it's kind of like on the street kind of thing. I'm like, I know which one you're going to say based on what you look like. And having made comedy for so long, what's your relationship to comedy now? What do you watch, read, go to? Like, how do you make yourself laugh right now?
Starting point is 00:59:27 What's making you laugh? Who's making you laugh? Like, what's the place when the world is getting really intense that you, like, where do you escape? I have a hard time. And so I have two things. But I don't, I have a hard time finding them, so I'm very interested. Okay, so I just saw, this just, I just last week I saw Caperland's new show.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Oh wow. At the Bell House. The great Caperland. I mean, I haven't laughed that much in a long time. Oh, so live Caperland, recommend. She's on tour, I think, right, starting now. And then the show I'm watching that I'm obsessed with that like Brooke told me about yeah Brooke posh posh who instrumental in yeah in the early Brad City
Starting point is 01:00:14 Big boys No, guys. Okay. Hold on. It's so good. It's on Hulu. It's from the UK Okay, it's so and it's like the mix of like it's on Hulu, it's from the UK. Okay. It's so, and it's like the mix of like, it's so funny and really heart, like there's heart. It's like, it got me. Okay, so it's a sitcom. Yeah. Two boys from very different ends
Starting point is 01:00:37 of the spectrum of masculinity become best friends at Brent University, Freshers Week, in their first year at university. They explore, experiment, and try to discover themselves. Yeah. I've never read the description. That's what it is. All right. And Alana, what are you listening to? How do you check out or laugh or...? I've been really... It's like I want to see Kate's show.
Starting point is 01:00:57 I really love what my friends are making, like hacks. I've been... I still have to catch up on season four, but that's been really killing me in a good way. I'm just like, oh, this is so good. And so funny. I'm like living, I'm dying. You know what I mean? And also the, like the last time I left so hard was at Oh Mary. I just, I just died. I'm like starting to get into like old movies though. Um, just watched Prince of Tides. Okay, not so much. Barbara Streisand. David wants to watch all of Barbara Streisand's stuff
Starting point is 01:01:31 because we have biographies for little kid books. And we're looking at Barbara and reading her life story and we're like, let's just watch the catalog. And she's like, she's so stunning, dude. She nails in Prince of Tides. She directed that. She directed it. And Nick Nolte? Like the gorgeous. And to see, first of all, she's so hot and beautiful. And I'm like looking up in Wikipedia and doing the math. She's like 53 in it. And she directed herself and is like, yeah, I'm fucking gorgeous and so Jewish.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Would she say like Prince of Toys? Would it be Toys? Toys. It's just like, get it bitch. Like fucking get it. She has a bio that just came out. Autobiography. And you should hear her do the audio book.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Yeah, she's incredible. Barbara, we know you're watching. Yeah, unless she and Barbara, please come please. Dude, that would be a dream. Barbara, Tina and I did the movie Sisters. Her husband James Brolin played our dad. And my parents visited the set one day and my mom was like, I wonder if Barbara Streisand is ever going to come. And I was like, I wonder if Barbara Streisand's ever gonna come.
Starting point is 01:02:45 And I was like, mom, Barbara's not gonna come visit. You know, on Long Island, the set of Sisters, her husband is an actor. And she did. And it was the day my mother was there. Yes, dude. Wow. She came to visit, you know, just came to drop by to see her gorgeous, loving husband, James. And my mom was like, I told you. And I was like, this doesn't happen all the time.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Don't get used to this. Did they have a moment? They did. I mean, they had like a little hello. She was lovely and very, very lovely to us. And you're right. Barbara, when you come on, let's talk about the things you've directed.
Starting point is 01:03:22 I want to talk to you just as a director. Truly. It was so cool. And learning how to light yourself as a woman in your 40s, in your 50s, in your 60s, just be like, just make it soft. Just feel, she is irresistible. We were just like, she is so hot. I had a Broad City movie the other day
Starting point is 01:03:40 that I was, it felt very Broad City, speaking of lighting yourself as I was shooting something. And I was looking at the monitor and I said, can I just take a peek to see where you are at with lighting? And the young director of the piece said, oh, don't worry, you look great. And I was like, can I give you a little feedback? I think when women, especially my age, ask for the monitor, saying, don't worry, you look great is not helpful. Like, it's not like we're being vain or insecure. We're just trying to tweak just what we would our voice or performance.
Starting point is 01:04:16 We kind of have a sense of how we're going to feel comfortable and how we want to come across. Like, lighting is a big deal. I don't think he understands, this person understands. I think he's actually trying to make me feel better. I totally get it. But it's just like, LOL, bro. LOL, bro.
Starting point is 01:04:37 I mean, OMG, LOL, bro. Blah. And then a little, blah. Did you get to see? Huh? Did you get to see? Of course. Of course. Of course. All you do is you go like this.
Starting point is 01:04:48 I mean, it's always, and this is very Broad City, it's always like how much in the moment do you want to like correct? And how much do you want to just like, you know, it is, I mean, I think what we're talking about today is the reason why people love the show is they feel like there's like people looking out for each other, sticking up for each other, taking care of each other. There's a community in the show. There's like a vibe. And then what that does, it allows you to do that for yourself.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Like that's, and then you become your own advocate for yourself. That's what the characters did. I had a Broad City moment on Saturday too. I don't know if it has a big culmination like this, but I went to a premiere and I went alone, okay, which is wild. And then I went to the party after and I was like, I'm going to schmooze and all that. And I knew someone and I was like, okay, we're eating, we get a bite. And then we're going up to the bar, I was like, let's get a drink. And we go up to get a drink. And they were like, they were like, let's get a drink. And we go to get a drink and they were like, you know what? I don't want to hold the martini.
Starting point is 01:05:48 I have to pee. I'm going to go pee. And I was like, all right, well, what do you want? I'll get it. And I get the drink. And I was like, oh, look at me at this premiere. I get the two martinis and then they never came back. You're like, and so I truly was like, I was like standing with two dirty martinis and I was like, and I was like looking like a true drunk.
Starting point is 01:06:13 And like people would come up to me and then I told Jodie later, I was like, oh God, like people will come up to me that I knew and then people come up to me that love Broad City. Me holding the two martinis and I was like, I'm fucking Abby. I'm fucking Abby. And I was wearing a thing where like, I kind of had to keep adjusting it. Finally, I was like, this one looks better. And I was like, started drinking. I was like, I abandoned and then... How many minutes would you say that you were double fisting martinis? I would say too many.
Starting point is 01:06:41 What's your number? I would probably say 20. Yo! Yeah. I would say too many. What's your number? I would probably say 20. Yo! She's gonna come back here. And then I was like, this is good martini. They made it. I didn't pay for it, but I was like,
Starting point is 01:06:56 They made it. It's a nice martini. I'm gonna waste a martini. And then they're washing me and I don't want them to think that I'm not drinking it. And then I was like, I abandoned it. And then I was like... Then they're watching me and I don't want them to think that I'm not drinking it. And then I was like, I abandoned it. And then I was like, I'm leaving. In the spirit of self-improvement, if it was 20 this time,
Starting point is 01:07:09 how many minutes will you give it next time? There's no world in which I'm getting the drink when someone goes to the bathroom next time. I think I'd be like... That's a good correction. I'll see you when you get back, I'm gonna get myself a drink. And Alana, have you had an Alana moment recently? Is there something that happens where you're like,
Starting point is 01:07:24 oh, this is an Alana moment? I have one that I can't say that'll tell you after. Oh, you can't. It's so naughty. Oh, I wanna know it. It's naughty? Oh, Alana, tell us. Have you had an Abby moment?
Starting point is 01:07:36 Us filling it in might be more fun. Kind of like what you were talking about with your show. Like us filling in what your Alana moment is. It's like dot, dot, dot. Dot, dot, dot, babe. Yeah, let's leave it at that. But I'll talk after. Okay, well, dot dot dot it is.
Starting point is 01:07:49 I love you too, thank you so much for doing this. I love talking about the show. I love talking about what's next. You always were, you always will be. Not from, not, oh, Amy Poehler, she's icon. No, from the fucking in the flesh, delicious, forever eight-year-old person that you are, mother that you have always been to us, big sister, just friend. You're just incredible.
Starting point is 01:08:13 We're so grateful. Thank you for letting this eight-year-old be your producer. She did it. She did it good. Thank you guys. Thank you, Abby and Alana. Thank you for coming and doing the pod. It was so, so great to talk to you.
Starting point is 01:08:26 And it's just a delight always to see the two of you together. And today's Polar Plunge is brought to you by Wayfair, here to help you make your home your happy place. So as we plunge today, I just want to remind everybody about the podcast that Kim Lessing and Kate Aaron mentioned at the top of the show, two women who run PaperKite Productions, the company that is my production company and that made Broad City and many other things. They have a show called Million Dollar Advice. We would love to hear your questions about your workplace questions that they can answer. So please send them in to milliondollaradvicepod at gmail.com. Milliondollaradvicepod at gmail.com.
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Starting point is 01:09:33 The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, and Alea Zanaris. For Paper Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, and Aleya Zanaris. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss-Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.

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