Good Hang with Amy Poehler - Ashley Padilla

Episode Date: September 22, 2026

Ashley Padilla is so good at impressions. Amy hangs with the 'SNL' star and talks about hiding from the cops in a rose bush, running Diane Keaton's Instagram, and the best ways to play a fart. Host: ...Amy PoehlerGuests: Andrew Dismukes and Ashley PadillaExecutive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-BermanFor Paper Kite Productions: Executive producer Jenna Weiss-Berman, coordinator Sam Green, and supervising producer Joel LovellFor The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson, Belle Roman, and Aleya Zenieris; lighting director Caroline Jannace; audio producer Kaya McMullen; social producer Bridget Geerlings; video editor Drew van Steenbergen; and bookers Kat Spillane and Paige GarbariniOriginal Music: Amy Miles Visit uber.com/safety to learn more. Switch today at https://www.Visible.com for just 25/mo. Or get the premium Visible+ pro plan and save $10 on your first month with code HANG.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode is brought to you by Marshalls. Fall fashion is well and truly on the way, and Marshalls buyers are hunting down the must-have items you deserve for the right price. That means every trip to Marshalls is a chance to find an everyday staple, a show-stopping hidden gem, or your next obsession with new items arriving every day. Stop by Marshalls today to find more quality, more style, and more value than you ever expected. Visit marshals.com.ca. to find a store near you. Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. We are really excited about our guest today. It is Ashley Padilla. Ashley is so talented, so funny in her third season at SNL, just an excellent cast member who we've all fallen in love with. And we are going to talk about a lot of fun stuff today. We're going to talk about the wonderful Diane Keaton. We're going to talk about getting arrested and mouthing off to cops. We're going to talk about how lucky we are to have comedy as our job and how we,
Starting point is 00:01:03 pinch ourselves every day. We're going to get into a lot of good stuff. But before we do, we are going to talk to somebody who knows our guest, who works with our guest. And that is Andrew Dismukes, another hilarious performer and writer on S&L, a good Texas boy who has a real New York coffee order. So let's check in with Andrew. I believe he's speaking to us from a poorly lit hotel room. Andrew? This episode is brought to you by Uber.
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Starting point is 00:02:03 It's a simple option that can help women feel more comfortable during their ride. Learn more on the Uber app. What are you drinking there? What's your coffee order? I'm in Appleton, Wisconsin right now. I did some stand-up, so nice hotel coffee. You went down and got it and brought it back up to your room? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Fantastic. How do you take your coffee? Black, straight up. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a real one. Pretty serious stuff. Well, yeah. I'm a tough guy. I'm a tough New York guy.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Andrew, I was so happy that we were talking today and realizing that I need to get you into the stude because I feel like, are you a New York guy? Did you grow up in the East? I don't know enough about you. No, no, you're not. I'm from Texas originally. I've become, you know, I've become a New York guy in my heart. Actually, you have because you've been living in the city for how long now? Yeah, nine years now. Dang. It's crazy. And I've seen like none of it. Every time people have. me like what my favorite restaurant is I'm like there's one like two blocks from my house that's great and do you have a set tonight stand-up set tonight or did you just do one last night I did one last night flying back home later how did it go crushed just say it there's no no two ways about it crashed and did you change some minds you changed some lives well that's what it's really all about is it's about touching hearts and changing minds and we did we did yeah yeah and i and i know i have heard that people have asked you to stop touching their hearts and i said what's it's too bad
Starting point is 00:03:56 HR has asked you to stop touching some of the hearts i'm just trying to i'm just trying to change people like well you're literally touching their hearts i thought this was supposed to do i'm very excited to talk to you about ashley today because um um you two have something that you just kind of can't manufacture, which is chemistry. You too have a way of being together in the world as performers that feels very natural and fun and playful. How did you first meet? We first met at the show, like her first episode. And just pretty quickly, it was clear that like, oh, this is somebody who has got chops like crazy. And I, I think specifically both like performer and writer chops.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Like she's such a confident performer and so able to bring like real acting to the sketches she does. But then also like what she writes, you're also like, damn, you're good at both of those things? That's crazy. And did you start writing with her right away? No, really? Her whole first season, we didn't collaborate much. I think we maybe wrote one or two things that didn't make it to air. but yeah the first real collaboration was the weekend update thing the the couple who just hooked up
Starting point is 00:05:20 right yeah and your tie is a skew my tie is a skew it's very steamy it's very her hair has got that bed head bed head thing and you guys are talking about the super bowl yeah yeah yeah i mean that is my favorite thing about weekend update features is what the characters are talking yeah this is who you got to talk about this and they're doing very bad job. It's like just the worst run show in the world. That's like the premise of weekend update is they have the worst booker of all time. Yeah, they have terrible yes. And what do you like about writing with her? I think what I like the most about Ashley's writing and writing with her is like her ideas are all like about playing the realness of the scene. And so that's just fun
Starting point is 00:06:08 to create in that space where it's like we're playing real emotion to comedic effect rather than like being kind of over the top silly it's just a fun energy to get into yeah i want to talk to her about that today is that you know she's a really good actress and so she's like acting everything very naturally and very real and it's funny because she puts herself in very insane and she's often like very incredulous as a character. She kind of can't believe what's happening to her. Yeah, I think about the like fart sketch that she did, which everybody loves a fart sketch,
Starting point is 00:06:48 but it's so funny the way she plays it where it's like, this woman is very legitimately upset that it just happened. It's not like, oh, I farted. It's like, oh my God, I fart. I'm like, I just love that. I love that approach that she has. Me too. For people they don't know, she plays a woman who her coworkers try to surprise her.
Starting point is 00:07:12 They turn on the lights and she farts as soon as she sees them. And it's just like downhill from there. She cannot get past it. And then there's like two minutes of her asking everybody what they make, what their salary is. So good. Played very real. Do you have a question for Ashley today? Anything big or small that I could ask her?
Starting point is 00:07:31 I feel like groundlings specifically when people come. to SNL from groundlings, it feels like that. It feels like those people are so equipped for SNL off the jump, thinking like Mikey, Heidi, Ashley, as well as like former cast members who come back and host. It just feels like that's the most mappable training ground for people in a really interesting way. And I guess I'm just curious what it would like if she has any insight in like what was it that she learned in groundlings or what was it that groundlings specifically instilled in her that made her be like so ready and so equipped what's the thing she learned in groundlings um or just from that time in her life that she feels like has applied the most to being
Starting point is 00:08:21 on SNL. Oh great question. I mean what if we found out the groundlings has like a mini S&L set and they just run drills? That would be quick changes. I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just so impressed with her, like, so quickly. I'm like, what's the secret? What did you learn? Like, please, tell me. She does do a thing that I think good, and I think you do this too, and is that, you know, it's sketch.
Starting point is 00:08:45 You have to be grounded, but you also can't be, like, too internal, too interior. You know, I'm sure, like, actors come on the show, and there, they get kind of quiet and they really want to, and you're like, oh, no, you have to be loud. Totally, totally, yeah. I think especially just in that room, like, I think people have talked about it where it's like, doesn't have the best acoustics. Like, there is a thing of like, sometimes you'll do a sketch and you'll be like, I don't think anybody in that room heard what I was saying.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I think everybody in the audience was like, oh, wow, they just went and did like a silent little play. Yeah. And we didn't enjoy it. They did a little whisper play. They did a little whisper play. So, yeah, being still able to be micro, but also like, yeah, play big enough to get laughs in that room is very important. And she does do that very well.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Yeah, right on. Awesome. Well, it's great to see. The last time I saw you, I felt like I was dressed as a man and I was holding a tortoise because of something that you wrote. Yeah, we had a sketch where you were dressed as a man and holding a tortoise. Well, thank you for that. And thank you for doing that. We really appreciated it.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Of course. And I will, the tortoise wrangler who, you know, was very nice. did warn me that the tortoise could and would most likely bite. And you handled it like a champ and we really appreciated that. Because the Wrangler did said that and we were like, and you're cool with that, right? And you're cool with maybe getting bitten. Totally.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Thank you for talking from your hotel room. Good luck with the coffee. Thank you. Please don't turn any lights on. Just stay in the dark. I'm not stay in the dark because this is just sort of where I like to be. This is just where I'm most comfortable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:31 With a hard light coming here in our chat. I think that's best for a Zoom. And I'm sure that your producers are really happy that this is my configuration. Well, we're going to use those Zoom filters. We're going to put on funny sunglasses. We're going to put on like a beret. You're going to make it with like a cool, tough guy. Yeah, nice.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Like a cool tough guy. Yeah, like New York. Right. Like New York, I got sunglasses on like a New York because I'm a cool tough guy. Andrew, thank you so much for doing this. Ashley's going to be thrilled that we talked. And it's so great to see you. Thank you, Amy.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Yeah. Thank you so much. Much. Okay, buddy. Bye. Bye. Thanks. Folks, it's officially fall, which means we've entered the season of change. Changing leaves, refreshed wardrobes, and new routines. But the one thing that doesn't need to change, your phone. The smartest upgrade this season isn't a new phone. It's a better wireless plan. Switch to Visible, the ultimate wireless hack. You get unlimited 5G data and unlimited hotspot, powered by Verizon for just $25 a month. That means keeping the phone you already love,
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Starting point is 00:11:54 See visible.com for plan features and network management details. Woo-hoo. I'm so glad you're here. Here. This is surreal. Come on. Come on. Oh, this is crazy. Yeah, I know. What? People don't know that we're talking on a very stormy and rainy morning. It's very rainy. I mean, I don't know if people care about the weather outside when we do this. I guess. Every day, you're like, today's forecast.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I don't think. Maybe it's too stormy. Maybe Ashley won't come. I got scared. Not today, I can't do this. Sorry, Amy. It's raining. Okay, are we good with Ashley's? Okay, wait. Oh, you can, I can move this.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Okay. Let's move. We can scoot. Can I take a sip of this yet? No, it's lighter fluid in there. Oh, fuck. It's for the cameras. Just do water.
Starting point is 00:12:54 It's with the cameras. I'm so sorry. There's no way. We can't drink anything here. Okay, I trust you. Yes, of course you can. Okay, very good. So moving the laptop.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Here we go. They're just kind of moving. And weirdly, the laptop is the only thing you can see. It just gets closer to camera. It's fun because look at this. Can you imagine if I was just on it to the whole time? And you're on Facebook. You're on Twitter being like ever been so bored in your life.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I'm on Facebook marketplace. You're in Baccia Binea is here. Yeah. I'm so happy you're here. I can't believe it. I'm thrilled you're here. And congratulations on being one of the captains of the show. Wow.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Coming from the captain. Ma'am. And also... Ma'am, please don't talk to me. Oh, please don't. Oh, I don't want to talk about my life. No. Please don't.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I'm interviewing you. But the cast is so... good right now. Wow. The show is so jilled. Congratulations on having an incredible year. Thank you. Your second year, second season.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Yes. And I guess what I wanted to start with is that I don't, you know, I don't know a lot about you. Very mysterious, Ashley. And you like to keep it that way. Yeah. So great talking you. Bye, bye. Anyways, it's still raining outside.
Starting point is 00:14:27 No, yeah. The rain is getting harder. Talk about the raid. Yeah. But you're a private person. Uh-huh. Or I would say you don't have a lot of... It's not that I'm private.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Okay, tell me. It's that I'm so scary, boring. And I thought, I'm going to reveal this. Last night, in bed, going to bed, thinking about today. And I had an image of us sitting there, no talking, and you going, so... No, Ashley, that won't happen. She'll have questions for sure. She'll think of something.
Starting point is 00:15:03 She'll think of something. She'll talk about the weather or something. She'll say that it's raining outside. I had a nightmare that you were like, okay. Ash. Because there's nothing to share. That's not everyone has something to share. Everyone does.
Starting point is 00:15:18 But one of my kind of themes of today is that you entered the show kind of as a grown-ass woman. Oh, yeah. With your skills and you're ready. readiness for the show and us getting to know you on the show seem to have matched, in my opinion. And that's very, very cool and satisfying to watch. And also, you have something that I really, really love when you talk about your job and your show is a real gratitude for how cool it is to get paid to do comedy on TV. It's crazy. No, it's crazy. I'm scared if I say it out loud too much.
Starting point is 00:16:00 People will be like, hey, she's right. Get her out of here. Or pay her nothing. What the hell? I do worry about that. Because to be a successful actor on a TV show that is so beloved that people are responding to your work. And even just, you know, I was looking up the number again because I always get blown away by the fact that there's only been like 180, 170-something cast members. It's like good.
Starting point is 00:16:29 It's a club. It's an airplane. It's an airplane. So to be on that show, I guess what are the still kind of pinch me moments two years in that feel like this? You speaking to me. It really is so crazy. It's like there's pinch me moments every day because it's so silly because what you said. I mean, I've been practicing this craft for so long.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Yes. Even in childhood doing it without you realizing you're doing it, right? Just being an idiot and funny and saying you're annoying. It's just like it was so natural to me. And so to do it for a living is crazy. It's a pinch me moment all the time. What kind of little kid were you? I was loud and really funny, I think. And I think, you know, my uncle. I think could my uncle Chris, he's the one who really got me in a sketch comedy. He did, he would, I did a thing called the sign spinner. I came up this girl named Esther, the sign spinner. Oh, like the person that's outside of the sign spinner. And she was a character named Esther who would, she signed spend for fun because she loved it. So she'd make signs for different restaurants around town and do it for free.
Starting point is 00:17:55 And they're like, get out of our, we don't. And it was this thing we came up with. And he, like, recorded it with me and... Cute. How old were you then? Edited it with me? 13? So he was the one who was like,
Starting point is 00:18:08 you have something, and I like comedy, and let's make this. And he was like, he was the manager of this place. I was like, get out of here. And I'm like, I like doing this. And I remember being so proud of myself that I could keep a straight face. Like, you'd be like, cut. And I'd be like, I didn't even laugh. I didn't even laugh.
Starting point is 00:18:27 He laughed once it was hilarious the whole time. I was funny the whole time, I was keeping that in. And I wanted a laugh. Were you watching Sketch at the time? Like, did he? I don't know how people had cool uncles who, like, introduce him to music and comedy. Oh, yeah. What were you watching at 13 or what were you into?
Starting point is 00:18:44 I was watching the office. And I was really obsessed with it. I was really obsessed with Dwight Shrewt. Yes. And I wanted to, that's kind of why I wore the glasses as Esther. And, like, I was obsessed. with him in a big way because he was doing the thing I wanted to do, which was being crazy and committing to it.
Starting point is 00:19:07 And what was crazy and funny was that he was doing it out of his own truth as a character, so he wasn't trying to go for the joke. What was funny was that he thought this was serious. And it was that, yeah. Well, that is what I think is so interesting about your work is like, I do think you come to it from an acting place, right? I love that. Do you, did you want to be, did you consider when you were a young person, like, did you say I wanted to be comedian or do I want to be an actor?
Starting point is 00:19:34 I don't think I knew the difference. I just knew, same with Steve Correll. I mean, like, his, the laughs he would get. I'd watch the office just stay. My mom always got me the season for Christmas. Like, I knew it was coming. Every Christmas was the new season in, like, the DVD set, because I would sit and watch it for hours because that's the whole, without realizing it, That is what they're all doing. They're all just acting really well. Right. And Steve Kroll as well, just all this little inner work that he's doing is getting the laugh. He's barely sometimes has lines and he's getting a laugh. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:08 So I didn't put two and two together. I just think it's, it just was natural. It was like, oh, that's how I get the laugh is when I am so locked in. Mm-hmm. I remember there was this like, once I remember there was this thing I did for a friend. My friend, Sierra, we went to a museum. I don't know why we were just like having a gal's day, as you do. You go to the museum.
Starting point is 00:20:31 And drink grape juice and chin as wine. You drink great juice. You know, okay. So you know. And we were doing that. And we were at the museum. And I was making her laugh because I was acting like the bench in the middle of the place was a piece of artwork. And I was like, it's real.
Starting point is 00:20:52 And people started watching. And she's crying nearby. And I remember writing down later. at Groundlings in class, like the bench is beautiful. Believe the bench is beautiful. Believe it is, there's art all around this girl. But she thinks that's a piece of art. Believe it's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:21:09 And it's like just suspend people's bit. I don't know it's a joke. You don't know you're funny. The character doesn't know they're funny. Mm-hmm. Never. Ever. So did you come from a funny family?
Starting point is 00:21:19 You have three siblings. Yes. What is your birth order? I'm second. So Lindsay's the oldest. It's me and then Sammy and Teddy and they are. They would attest this. They're all funnier than me.
Starting point is 00:21:30 And funny mom? My mom is very funny. You're very close to your mom. Yes. And I love that your mom was like, you should go into comedy. Yeah. That doesn't happen a lot where someone's mom is like, think about comedy. She.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Could you imagine if it didn't work out? I was like, look what you did? I wanted to be an accountant. I'm right. I'm going to get you. Maybe go. Groundlings. Yeah, she Googled comedy class and was like, go there.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Okay. So what did she do? for a job. She worked at Adobe and worked her way up, software and worked her way up. Like, didn't go to college, single mom, four children. Dang. At my age now. Oof.
Starting point is 00:22:12 What? It doesn't make sense. No. Wow. Yeah. And so for her to do that, I mean, all four of us have unique talents. Like, we're all, like, my sister has a hair salon. My little sister is a tattoo artist.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Like my little brother's a great screenwriter, also working as a nurse, but he writes these movies. Like everyone, and she just watered those plants. She wasn't trying to make you not do it. She wasn't trying to go, no, go do this. Ashley, go play football or whatever parents make you do. Yeah, go play football. I got lucky. She didn't make me do that.
Starting point is 00:22:50 We all kind of learned by people modeling for us. What did you learn about work by watching your mom work so hard? that she could, she was just a hustler. She still is. She's just a hustler. Like, even at Adobe, working her way up at that company, you know, she became an executive producer of like the live events. So when we would go, I did hair and makeup for a long time.
Starting point is 00:23:15 That's how I would make money. And she would hire me to do hair and makeup, me and my sister. And at these big events, and you just see her on the headset. And she's like, what? And I was like, what a powerhouse? Like, she just knew what she wanted and, like, was like, and all these, like, love everyone that works there, a lot of men. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:36 And she's, like, the one telling you, like, producing. And it was just so cool. And I do think it influenced me. And also her saying, go do this. Like, you can do it. But I just never had any fear. I never wondered if I was too small for the world. Or, like, that never crossed my mind because she was such a.
Starting point is 00:23:53 a great example of that. So cool. Yeah. I mean, she says, okay, let's look up comedy clubs. Yeah. And... It could have ended so badly. It's so crazy. She's like, you and I are going to a comedy club and you're going to do comedy for your mother. It's crazy. Did you think that this was going to be your job? No way. I was so... No way. No way. No. And I was so scared for life. Like I was, I didn't go to college. I went for a week at community college. I left on a Friday. I went on a Monday, left on a Friday. You're like, I left something in my car. I'll be right back. Oh my God, I wish I should have done that. Instead, I pull aside.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Oh, you're a teacher who not in charge of that. I go, I'm talking to you. I pull him aside and I'm like, I can't do this. I don't know what I'm doing. And he was like, so you need to go to the administration. Don't, I'm teaching biology or whatever. And I sobbed him and I said, I just can't do this. Because I was seen there going, I just got out of this. I just got out of high school that I hated and almost failed. What kind of student were you? Oh, awful.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I'm shocked. Awful. I'm shocked. You're so smart. I'm shocked that you were. But I had no interest in anything they were putting out with that. You were like, I'm never going to need this. I said, when am I going to need this?
Starting point is 00:25:21 You tell me, and I will submit this homework. Because tell me. I'm trying to figure out your, don't worry, we'll cut this, Jenna. I'm trying to figure out your eneagram number. You're diseased. Because you're such a, this is very challenging. Wait, what? Well, but not being a good student.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Bad girl. Not just not being a good student. Bad girl. Tell me more. What do you mean? How did you get in trouble? Arrested. No.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Finally, we got to it. She's got her record. Talk to me, Padilla. Disorderly conduct. Was it some kind of, what was it? Okay, okay. Shoplifting. Okay, here's what I was charged with.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Okay. Obstruction of justice. Resisting arrest. Oh, cool. My mother pulling in as I'm cuffed on the cop car. Cuffed on top of the cop car. She pulls in single mother. pulls in in her boyfriend's truck.
Starting point is 00:26:24 She's still on. One second. She gets out and she's looking at me like talking to the cop and he's like, so we found her in the rose bush. My extensions, crazy. I've got my like flip phone thing with the keyboard and I'm like, my mom's here. These cops. Basically, I was like leave.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I was like running for. from a party. That's what I mean, running from a party. But there had been a hit and run down the way. And me, and I can't say his name, I had my fake Chanel. He had my fake Chanel. Oh my God. Did they care that it was fake? Did they get you? That's why I got arrested. Get over here. They arrested me because I hid in a rose bush for, I think, four hours. And when they pulled me out, I said, and they wrote this down. They wrote this down.
Starting point is 00:27:25 It was in the police report. I said, it's about time you motherfuckers caught me. What was that four? I loved that. Who was that four? Was I on camera? I mean, about time you put. What?
Starting point is 00:27:44 Because you know what? Because you doubled down. Because you were like, you were nervous. And you were like, I'm going to go extra cocky. I can relate. I went so cocky. I was in a tube top hair. 16. About time.
Starting point is 00:27:59 So 16, it's about time you guys caught me. I said, about time my motherfuckers caught me. They cuff me. They cuff me. And I was like, please uncuff me before my mother gets here. And they were like, fine. And they were like, uncuff me. And I said, had you guys know that I was there? And they were like, we had the place surrounded.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And this young boy who ran with me had your fake Chanel. Did he also get arrested? Yes, he did. Oh. He got arrested. So did you go to court where charges dropped? Well, this is where it gets interesting. If it wasn't already, they were like, because you're 16 or something, we're not, this can be removed from your record.
Starting point is 00:28:46 If you go to court-ordered therapy with your mother. And your mother was like, I'm busy. Excuse me? That's punishment for her. She had to sit there, and I remember, I love you, mom. She had these, like, red nails, blonde hair. She's a working woman. She's sitting there, and the therapist was like,
Starting point is 00:29:08 I want you guys to draw for me. And my mom was like, no. And she's like, okay. She, like, didn't. She's, like, flipping their magazine. Like, I'm not doing that. And I drew something, and they said, draw yourself and draw a house.
Starting point is 00:29:32 That's what they said, do. Whoa. And I drew a house and myself and I should not, Amy. The woman says, now why did you draw yourself smaller than the house? And I was like, because my mom's like, the clock's ticking and. And I was like, to fit in the house. And she's like, no, you feel small.
Starting point is 00:30:09 It was like crazy, and I was like, that's incredible. And meanwhile, I'm like, my mom has to, I'm already in trouble, and my little brother had to come, I don't know why. He was like, I'll draw two. And he was drawing. And he drew a castle with a man named Fred getting electrocuted on the side of the castle. And she said, I'm going to keep this one for the files. And my mom was driving him.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I'm like, great, now they're going to take Teddy. Now the court's going to take Teddy. It was like... This is, you were a bad girl. She deserves an Oscar, if that's what we should give her. What is an Oscar for being a mom? She had to deal with some shit. Okay, so then she was like, take some of your comedy fun.
Starting point is 00:30:57 She was like, channel some of this into a professional experience. Yes, stop. Okay. Stop. Stop. Stop. And like I went and got a job at Sephora, and they gave me a job. I mean, I just loved having a job that I actually liked. I was probably just, I was just in bliss. And like there was a rule. You had to, like, wear five articles of makeup at the time. So I learned to do makeup. I became like an educational manager. I was like rising up like my mom did at her job. I was like rising up and I didn't go to college. And I was like getting responsibility. And then... So you like to be the boss? I like to get the most out of everything. And I think sometimes, especially in worlds like that where there's like, you know, steps. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:44 I just like being the best at everything I'm doing. And not against anyone else. I'm not trying to be better than I. I'm just like, how much more can I do? Yes. You know? That's why I probably think like school you're like, there's nowhere to grow here.
Starting point is 00:31:56 There's nowhere to grow. You're like, what's past an A? And what? What? What? I'm sorry. I still stand by that. I'm like doing all of that.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Oh, my God. Yeah. Unless you know what you're doing and go to school. I don't know. I don't know if you believe that. I don't know if you believe that when you say that. I guess I'm just like, unless you're interested in it.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Unless you're interested in it. Because to absorb information, you have to want to know. That's true. Right to retain the information. Because you didn't do theater in high school. No, I did one play because during bad girl, bad girl times, I didn't, I didn't submit, like, you're supposed to submit the classes you want to take. And I just didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:32:47 So they were my mom's phone ringing again. They're like, she didn't do this. And so she had to come down to the principal's office and we had to like fill out a thing together. And they were like, she was like, what's left? And they were like, theater. I was like, no, please don't make me. And I did it. And I remember I didn't even tell anyone
Starting point is 00:33:04 And I was like in what was it called? The Emperor's New Clothes. Is that what it's called? I don't know. You were there. I remember. The Emperor's New Clothes. In the audience.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Yeah. Yeah, it was in the audience. And I got the role of like the lead like princess. And I like remember floating down the aisle. I came from the audience to the stage. Loved it. Then pretend it never happened. I was like put that away.
Starting point is 00:33:30 That's crazy. Interesting. Yeah. So loved it when you got it. You were like stepping into it. Here we go. So you're not so much introverted, very extroverted. Very extroverted, very loud. But just, yeah, not knowing you could make money on it, I guess. Yeah, sure. I mean, did you know anyone who was an actor or? No. Yeah. No. And then, you know, you get to, I worked at Sephora and then my, my long time, my high school boyfriend who I love, he's the best. We broke up and I, I, I, I, became so depressed. And there I was with money and apartment. I did the thing. I very quickly did the thing that, like, you're supposed to do, you know? And when I saw it didn't make me happy, I was miserable. And now I don't have this boyfriend and I just felt so sad. And my mom was like, what if you try, you're funny? What if you tried this thing? Because I'd made it to the top at at Sephora in the way that I could. And like, I just, yeah, I felt so unhappy.
Starting point is 00:34:34 And there was this quiet little voice in there that was like wanting something more, but I didn't know what it was. And so I felt awful about myself. You're almost just like, something's wrong with me. Like nothing's satisfying me. And then my mom said that. And then I went. You find your people at Groundlings.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Yeah. And for people that don't know who, you know, Groundlings, it's an improv and sketch group and hugely influential for so many people. like incredible alum came out of there. What were you doing for money when you were taking classes? Were you waiting tables? Makeup. Makeup and working, yeah, in restaurants.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Yeah, I was doing weddings and makeup jobs and I did like music videos or like just like I did this. I forget who the artist was. I can't even say. They made me like cold art cash, just like a thing of cash. When I first got to LA, I mean, it was just. Just whatever you did. whatever I could do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:33 When I first got to LA, I got a job at the church key. It was like this American-style dim sum place. And I had to dress up as a Pan Am stewardess. With a little hat, a little outfit, and heels. And I once came in with flats. And they were like, no, no, no, no, no. You were like, honey. Go to your car or find something.
Starting point is 00:35:57 And I had to go buy heels. And I came back. And I pushed around a dimsum car. part that where I made liquid nitrogen alcoholic otter pops. So I take the otter pop, which one would you like? Put it in the thing. Pour liquid nitrogen, no gloves,
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Starting point is 00:38:29 So you go to Groundlings. How do you get the audition for SNL? I had been working for for Diane Keaton, actually, for a long time. Okay, so let's talk about Diane. Yeah. So you were her assistant. Yeah. And how did you two meet?
Starting point is 00:38:51 How did you get that job? When I moved to L.A., my mother's friend's sister was her main assistant and was like, let's grab coffee. And we had a coffee. And her name's Stephanie, she's the best. She's taught me everything. Her and Diane have taught me so much. much, it is crazy. I can't believe it, even looking back.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Like, even just down to, like, getting me my first real purse, you know, I have a fake shit. Like, I love fashion and all that stuff. And they're just the best. And, like, they just taught me so much. And I meet with her. And she goes, you know, we're always looking for someone to do errands and all that stuff. And at the time, I didn't, you know, Diane Keaton.
Starting point is 00:39:38 I knew her as the mom from Family Stone. Right. I did not watch Annie Hall. I had not seen The Godfather and all that. She made me watch those movies. She did. She said, you haven't seen Annie Hall? You're going to go home here and watch it and tell me what you think. And I did. And I watched the Godfather. She asked me what I thought she was so incredible. And it really did start as like a small job, just like come and help at this party. And I did. And I remember them sort of like chatting like, what are you to do? And then she was like, well, what about her? Is she working? So I did. I took on that job. And it started with the kids. And then it turned into like, oh, well, can you run Diane's Instagram? And I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And then that turned into, well, you got to, you know, spend time with Diane. You guys got to look at videos and make stuff for her Instagram. And then it just all snowballed. And slowly it became my whole life at a time. Like reading scripts and working on projects. and we eventually sold a book together. Okay, so when you're running her Instagram, which was often in all caps,
Starting point is 00:40:46 was that her writing? Yes, okay. She was like, make sure that's... In caps. Yelling. It's so funny because it's so crazy how quickly it became my own, like, all right, yes, that's like, it was normal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:04 She's so special. She is. She's really one in a million. She's so original. Like, she had this thing that how would you describe, how would you describe that thing she had? That's like, magic. Yeah. Yeah, it's freaky.
Starting point is 00:41:19 It was so delightful and playful. And eccentric isn't really quite the right word. It was just like very, very original how she moved through life. Very special. She just floated around like a butterfly. She's like a butterfly. And she really was even working with her. She was like, oh, look.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Look at this. Like, she taught me to see the world around me. The shapes. As silly as that sounds. She'd go, look at the building. She'd stop. She'd pull over. Do you see this?
Starting point is 00:41:51 My God, the tree! The way the light comes. She got me to, like, notice everything. As if I was with a child. It's so crazy. It was wonder like a child that she kept into her 70s. Yeah. And that's what's rare.
Starting point is 00:42:06 It's not that she would. was any different than anybody else, she was just willing to stick with that and keep that wonder that goes away at some point. Because it taught me that it was even going away in myself. She brought it back and now I see those things. I stop and I go, oh my God, I love the way that that shape is. And like, that's my daily life now because of her. And I see pictures and I love images and even making the book with her. Like, you know, every page and every image and like, what's better and why does this need to be black and white and not have color? Why do you like this contrast? It's like it's such a gift. It's crazy. It's like school.
Starting point is 00:42:49 That's the school, right? That's the stuff that I'm going, holy shit, I'm retaining everything. Wow. And what book did you make together? What was about? Fashion first, because her and I have a love for collaging and pictures, and she got me into that. And we tried to sell. a collage book that no one was interested in. I mean, I'm going, it's Diane Keaton. Everyone was like, you're crazy if you think we are making this book because no one's going to buy it. And just getting the rights for the images will be crazy because the mouth belongs to someone
Starting point is 00:43:23 else and the eyes. And we're going, make it happen. And she was so pissed that no one wanted to make this. But as I was doing research for that book, I went, hold on now, why don't you have a fashion book? and I showed her all of the images. I came to work one day. I remember I was so nervous,
Starting point is 00:43:40 and Stephanie kind of gave me the sign of. She's like, show her this. Because Stephanie had been kind of trying to tell her for a long time to do this thing. I came with images because that's her language. Yeah. And I was like, look at all of your outfits. Look at everything you've done.
Starting point is 00:43:53 You know what I mean? And when I showed her all of them, she went, okay, this is good. And we pitched it. Okay, I am very stylish. That's when we showed Ritz-Loli. And that's when they were like, all right, we'll make this.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Yeah. I couldn't believe she let me design. it. She let me design the cover. She let me design the book. She let me do everything. And I went, but I've never made a book before. And she's like, you'll figure it out. So cool. She had no doubt. Yes. It's weird. How amazing, Ashley. I know. What a loss. She's so special. Yeah. And she really cared about me. She would come to Groundling shows when like, why were you there? Going to God. I always said to her. I said, you shouldn't come to this.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah. And I mean it. Yeah. And she was like, I'm coming. Mm. And I'm going to wear a tutu and a big old hat. Yep. And I said, I even said the first time she came, I said, please, you know, I just don't want you get mobbed is what it was.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I just felt like, ugh. I also kept the two very separate, right? Sure. You're being a struggling comedian. Mm-hmm. You know? And then I go to this icon's house. I was living a double life.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Yeah. And then when the two would come together, I remember she was like, I'll lay low. I'll lay low. And I was like, okay, great. I'm looking through the thing when she arrives. And she's in the biggest tutu and biggest... Excuse me. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Getting... Her tutu's getting on people. Excuse me. Excuse me. And every time she was laughing, yes. Ever sketch. I mean, she really was a fairy godmother. And she dressed like a fairy god mother.
Starting point is 00:45:32 And she dressed like a fairy god. She dressed like a parent godmother. She was very godmother. And I was just like, and everyone backstage, Diane King's. I know. She's here. So she helped you get the audition. She, like, she encouraged you to audition. She basically believed that you could do it and therefore. She believed I could do it, but I will say, I mean, everyone believed in me. Yeah. But, but nothing was happening. And so I was going to quit. Yeah. Talk to me about that. You were just, you were thinking. I was tired. Yeah. It had been, I mean, like you said, you're like you came into S&L kind of fully formed, but it's because I I respect what people are doing online with the comedy. I'm not good at that. And so every time the opportunity came up, it was like, well, do something online, do front-facing comedy, do all that. I resisted the urge because it just wasn't for me. And I went, well, if that's not for me, I kind of associated it with, well, then I guess I'm not willing to do the work, which wasn't true. I was always. doing the work, I was doing live shows, just who's in the audience, not, you know, no one that can really make a career for you. No Guffman's. There's no Guffman. Where's the Guffman? Where's the Guffman? We're waiting. So I, I just felt tired and I was like, fuck this. I, I, I decided, I was more willing to decide to live my life. Yeah. I was like, I'm done. I'm done with the, Will I get them?
Starting point is 00:47:05 I just made a book. I was like, there's other ways to make money and be creative. That's what she taught me. And I was like, I'm done. I'm just fucking done. I'll figure out something else. I just want to be happy. And that does not lie in waiting to see if this commercial is going to call me after pinning me.
Starting point is 00:47:24 You know what I mean? Yes, yes. No, I'm just done. And that's when, you know, Naomi Odenkirk, who is. Yep, Bob Odenkirk's wife, very famous manager. She is unreal. We went to breakfast and she was like, what do you do? Like, what have you been doing?
Starting point is 00:47:39 You're like traveling with Diane. Like, what is your life? Like, and I'm like, I guess I just, I'm like, I don't know. Like, I'm just not doing it anymore. I guess like I don't want to perform live. I was losing that interest because I hit my, I hit the ceiling of what I could do. Right. I made Maine.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I like did everything. And it was just like, all right, I guess this is, this path is done. I love performing. But this is no longer serving me. me to become a better person within myself. Yeah. I felt stunted. And then she said, well, let me try one more thing and let's do this party of three show,
Starting point is 00:48:11 which was me, Chris Klechner and Alex Bonifer. She's like, we'll do your best stuff because I didn't want to do it alone. And she was like, pick your friends, they're dear friends. And we're always in each other's stuff. So we did a show. And then that kind of caught some momentum. And then we were in Netflix as a joke. And then it was, S&L wants you to showcase.
Starting point is 00:48:30 And then I was like, okay. And they came to a party of three. And then they asked me to showcase. after the show. So I performed. They just see me, and then I ran over to UCB Franklin
Starting point is 00:48:38 and did it. What impressions did you do? Oh, God. I know. I did Diane, actually, because I was like, I don't do impressions. Who am I around the most?
Starting point is 00:48:48 Diane. And she's so funny. I did her, like, voiceover. I did, like, her doing a voiceover for, like, planet Earth
Starting point is 00:48:55 where she's just yelling that they're hurting each other. She's so hurting each other. She's just so funny. And that that was, and the easy one and then, oh my God, I don't even know what else I did. I'm not good at impressions and that's something that I've always been like, well, then I guess I'm not good for S&L. Isn't it funny? Because it's, I'm not good at impressions either. And it's like, it's a weird
Starting point is 00:49:17 thing where someone's like, so just also, I guess it would be like if you're applying for a job and they're like, also just do a little bit of painting. One hundred percent. Just also you just have to do three paintings. You're my lawyer? I just need you to do three paintings. Just three. And you're like, okay, I'll do the best I can at painting. And do it at the opening before you even go into your lawyering. Do the cold open. Do the paintings first.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Do the paintings first. And on your way to doing the painting, walk past 40 people who are really good at painting. Really good at painting. Make sure you take a look at their photos. That makes you feel so much better because I made the mistake of thinking once I got the show that they were like, surely they're not going to ask me. I'm bad at it. No, they're going to ask me. ask you, and they're going to ask you a lot. They're going to tell you.
Starting point is 00:50:03 What have you done? What political impressions have you done on the show so far? We shouldn't call them impressions. We just shouldn't label it as an impression. Okay, political characters. Who have you played? I did Christy Knoem. Oh, yeah, Christy Knoem. That's right. I did Pam Bondi.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Both of them. Both of them. I watched yours. I know. I know. I know. Oh, my God. I know. And then I did Caroline Leavitt. All of them just. Yeah. not even scraping the surface of what
Starting point is 00:50:34 I watched you and Tina because I had, I did, you both did it and then you had to go and do both of them. I had to go and do both of them and just more iconic women, cooler women from the show did it and then me and I was like Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:50:49 I was like, where he was making you do this? And I was like, can you get me come back? That was like when Forte had to do Bush after Will Farrell. It's so not fair. Okay, but did you bring any Groundlink characters to SNL? Oh yeah, I did my haircut sketch.
Starting point is 00:51:09 You did for your audition? Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I did haircut. God, that sketch. I did Kathy a bit. I did this woman Kathy for Jack Black, but she sort of changed. Because that's what's been interesting is that I brought so much to the show, like, came in like, I've got all this stuff. And then you realize it's just such a different medium,
Starting point is 00:51:33 even though they're both sketch, you've got to be a little punchier. You need to like... Well, it's funny you say that because so we do this thing in the show where we talk to somebody who knows our guest so we can talk well behind their back and we talk to Andrew today. Andrew dismutes. Oh, that's so sweet. He was in his hotel room. That is so sweet. Drinking black coffee. I think of drinking whiskey or something. Drinking whiskey out of a bottle. He's doing bad. He's doing badly. Oh my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:00 And he's very worried about him. So he asked you for some money. Yep. And he was really appropriate. Great. No, he had just done a show. He was drinking black coffee in a hotel room and we were talking about you. And he is so lovely and works so hard on that show and loves working with you.
Starting point is 00:52:20 He's the best. And his question for you was, what at Groundlings helps you prepare for S&L because we were kind of joking that, like, in many ways, it feels like a mini S&L camp there. It is. People get really prepared. But you're saying that it also, it did and it didn't. What did it do to help you to get ready for the show? I mean, it forces you to write for yourself.
Starting point is 00:52:44 If there is anything I could ever tell, like, young comedians, but also just, like, young women. Because, especially for myself, like, I mean, gosh, even Diane. I mean, like, the scripts she. was getting versus what I knew she was capable of sometimes. Like, just like, the writing for women sometimes bothers me in a way that I cannot. Let's talk about it for a second. What bothers you? Because I know what you mean. It's like... I just feel like sometimes we're not as portrayed as complex. Yes. I was going to say aggressively because I'm like, we're just, we got shit going on. It's complex. It's deep. It's so nuanced. It's like, I have so many things about me that I
Starting point is 00:53:28 want to see on screen and in comedy and I do wonder sometimes if to get there, we just need to be a little more willing to write for ourselves. And that's what that's what Groundlings did for me was you do not get on that stage unless you are writing something for yourself. Yeah. I mean, you might be in some people's stuff maybe, but like it's the same at S&L. It's like you can rate around all day for someone to write something for you or you can just write it yourself. Right. And I feel that way with movies as well. Like, I'm so lucky to be now, like, getting to do movies, but I'm still writing. I am writing so much, and I will never stop, because I have to speak for myself. Right. And it just creates this confidence, and that's what it
Starting point is 00:54:13 prepared me for, was showing up and going, all right, none of these writers know who I am. Right. And nor should they, they've got their own, should they have to write the cold, like, they're doing stuff. They're busy. They're writing for Amy Polarwood. Like, it's like, they've got a host. They're not going, what is Ashley? Like, no. So then I went, all right, then I'm going to write. And then that's what makes people want to work with you. Is they're like, okay, she knows what she wants to do.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And that's where it's, my gosh, like Allison Gates, Kent Sublette, like showing up and helping me make it more S&L. More for television. It's got to be a little punchier. It's got to be choppy. It's got to like the cuts, camera cuts. And like, you can't do what you do at groundlings where I can linger because there's no time constraint. It's like, we got to get to it. But you know, you have an interesting quality that's really awesome to watch,
Starting point is 00:55:00 which is you do not rush and you take your time and you have great timing. And it's thrilling because we all know the construct of that show. There's like just not a lot of time. And so the luxury of having a little bit of time, taking a little time, it feels transgressive. And when it's done by somebody who knows what they're doing, it's really fun. It is my favorite thing to do. I will. It's like my, it's just so like, I remember even with the haircut sketch, there was a
Starting point is 00:55:31 talk about cutting stuff and the first thing to go is, you know, those pauses at the beginning. Well, let's just cut your entrance. But please let me have that because I need to say hi to the audience real quick in a way that's like, let me show you what I'm feeling. And then we'll get into it. because I like watching people behave. And to behave, it's not rushed. To feel nervous or anxious or embarrassed. Being embarrassed takes a little time. It's like that feeling of it's just, I love it.
Starting point is 00:56:05 And then now they're on your side, I hope, because they're in on the joke with you. Yeah. You know, and then those other jokes pop. That's that, like, song that I like to play. It's just a bit of a dance. I like it. God, it's so true about behavior because we don't really often remember what sketches are about. Like, the idea is like, what? I don't even remember the idea. Like, someone's mad at someone about whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:31 It's these like little human behavior moments that are so funny and weird. You're so good at them. Thank you. That sketch, there's a sketch where you are surprised by your coworkers for your birthday and you fart. Yes. You fart. I couldn't believe that got on television. That was put on TVs. That's right.
Starting point is 00:56:53 It's on TV forever. Families is all that. Your moaning after we... Like in terms of the real estate of the sketch, it takes up a lot of time. Oh, yeah. Your reaction to like, what did I do? What just happened? How am I going to get through this?
Starting point is 00:57:14 Is all conveyed in like 20, maybe 25 seconds of. moaning. And that was not really in rehearsal. That's where I wanted you to apologize to everyone is I, something took over there and that's where the audience is like, I'm sure you felt this. I mean, it's why we love live. It's like, you can rehearse something all day. Yeah. Until you're in front of a crowd and know what they are going to give you, they loved the farts. And I went, well, shit, let's sit. Here we go. Let's sit in the pain of this. I love arrogance. What is funnier?
Starting point is 00:57:50 Me too. What is funnier than someone being like, happy guys? I farted. What you guys wanted? What is it? I also played a character who was very, it was very cocky about the fact that she farted.
Starting point is 00:58:07 I was like, she accused people of being jealous. There was a show called Rock of Love, which was like a dating show. and I played a one-legged character who farted when she jumped around. Okay, sure. And she was like, so I farted, jealous. She said jealous.
Starting point is 00:58:27 And I'm almost like, no, we're not jealous. It is. The epitome of why I want to do comedy for the rest of my life. It would be so fun to do hopping around on one leg being like, because I was, she considered herself a real catch. And you know what? That's all it takes. That's also my favor is when someone's like, you want to fuck me.
Starting point is 00:58:45 No! Want some of this? No! Totally. I love that. I want none of it. That is fantastic. You and Andrew work so well together, by the way.
Starting point is 00:58:57 He does this. He's what we're talking about. I mean, his stuff is grounded in realism. Like, he's like, but it's absurd. And he writes a lot for the show. That's all. He's got a very clear voice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Yeah. And do you feel like starting, you started at the 50th year, was it weird? 50th season, was it weird to start with like every person coming back all the time? I, and mind you, no one knew who I was. Like, Emil and Jane are so proactive with their careers that they had a following, they were coming in, you know, they had fans to watch them. People tuning in and were going, who is this woman? What is she doing?
Starting point is 00:59:39 And I was going, I don't know. I don't know. to my dress room and I was like, oh man, who hired me? Do they know I'm here? And then to the point where when I came back for this last season, I was sitting in my dress room the whole first show, not in a single thing. Oh, yeah. Okay. And then I did my sketch last sketch of the show. And which is often the best one. It can be. It's sort of like a Hail Mary. It's like, yeah, I did love that slot. And the more you get on the show, the less you get that slot sometimes, which I do, that slot is fun. Yeah. And I also want to talk to you about your haircut. Oh, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Because it's such a bold move to cut your hair in the middle of a season. I think they'd all say that too. Did you have to get, did you have to get permission? Like, I mean, you're- It's unfair. It's unfair. You begged for forgiveness. You did not ask for permission. You just did it. I went shorter than I said I was going. What's your relationship with Lauren? I just really, really admire him. I just think he's so smart and I can't believe someone was put on this earth to give people like you and I. I don't know if you think this, but like being funny is so insane. Like it's like, what are you here for? You make a slight, I don't know, not to diminish what, but it's like at the end of the day, it's like.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Oh, I know. Believe me, it's like, I mean, it's so funny. I mean, there are really important jobs in the world. And then... We're like, jealous. I'll take my money now. You're like, dude. I mean, I... It's sick.
Starting point is 01:01:32 It's sick. We should be on the cop car waiting for our moms to pick us up. It is sick. What we do. Sick. It's so true. It's not okay. And we treat it very...
Starting point is 01:01:47 People treat it like is very important. You cut the second fart? We can't cut the second fart. The second fart makes the third fart work. I'm at my desk by midnight. That's why when you watch shows about people making comedy, it makes me laugh so hard because it is so serious. Taking stuff seriously, that's what we love.
Starting point is 01:02:11 But to go back to, it's like, Lorne found a way to give those people jobs. Who gave us a place to work? Holy hell. But let me get back to your haircut. Sorry, long thing. But you cut your hair. Incredible.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Looks incredible. Hey, thank you. Do you love having short hair? Oh, yeah. I've had it before. That's where the haircut sketch came from. Was me shaving it too short. And pretending I liked it and that it was what I meant to do.
Starting point is 01:02:41 And I was like, this is, ooh, a buzz. This is good. I'm kind of obsessed, the politics of hair. Like, hair means something on the show. That's why I shaved it. Or, I mean, originally. Really? Why? What do you mean? Because I don't like being told what is feminine.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Do you know what I mean? And there's something inherently like long hair is? It's like, no. When do I feel the prettiest? Because people, whenever they mean you, your hair is so beautiful, it's so long. It's like, I don't really want that to be the first thing you think of. It was like I like to be open and fresh and like vulnerable. It makes me feel vulnerable because I can't hide. And like I like feeling open and like you can see my face and I was I was wearing so many wigs and yeah it just feels a little like I don't know dom like not dawling it's like well you have an interesting play with mask and femme stuff in the way you dress too and Diane of course is like that kind of like what is your relationship to like what is typically masculine or typically feminine would you do you like to play around with that? Yes and it's crazy how much of an influence Diane was on that because making the fact that. fashion book, we have a photo together where we're wearing the same exact outfit because I showed up to work dressed like her, not even realizing it. And we took a picture. And when I went into her
Starting point is 01:04:00 office and I said it was framed, she printed it out and framed it. And it's this image. I'm like, holy shit, you taught me that like, I don't have to be in this world for a man's approval, which is something I think I was doing for a long time. And that's so sad to say it out loud, but it's just the truth. I don't know if it's the, you know. Welcome to the father issues. I mean, like, right? Patriarchy.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Right. And I was always like, oh my God, vulnerable to take my makeup off and like have my hair done and be hot? Yes. So what? By the way, for who? For who? To who? To who?
Starting point is 01:04:44 And for how long? For how long? Because mama. I get tie-tie. I have to go to bed bed. Tie-tie, done, done. Seriously. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Fuck. Fuck off. And this is the thing to fuck you. I'm done. And hotter than ever, though, actually. Okay, honey. I mean, it looks incredible. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Thank you. It's funny because I feel hotter. Yeah. Because I'm myself. Mm-hmm. I mean, I told Jody. Jody was like... Jody McHuso, who runs the S&L Hair Department,
Starting point is 01:05:21 who the Bronx Speed is based on... Sweeter weather. And I said to her, she was like, you're her so pretty... And she's the best. I mean, she was so supportive and she was like, you know, she didn't know what I looked like
Starting point is 01:05:34 with short hair. So she's going, what are you talking about? You want to chop all your hair off? Yeah. And I'm like, I finally got so dramatic. This is what's funny, right? I went, my soul says I have to do this.
Starting point is 01:05:46 She's probably like, just do it, idiot. God, stop texting me. I was like, Please. She was like, do it. Do it. And I feel amazing. Because it's also the thing you're saying maybe with the challenge.
Starting point is 01:05:57 It's like permission. It was the permission part too. Yeah. I think it's really interesting. And I think it's very cool. Thank you. Liberating. It's liberating.
Starting point is 01:06:05 And also just getting back to the initial theme of you is that you have a, you have a, like you're self-possessed in a way that's very inviting. It doesn't feel like you're an island and no one can know you or interact with you. That's nice to know that. It's really, really, but there's just something about you that feels like you kind of have a sense of who you are and what you like and you write that way, you perform that way. And it's really intoxicating to be around. You're welcome. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:06:33 So we're going to end with impressions. Down to camera? No. To camera? Do ten impressions. But you know what we used to do? We used to play a game where you had to do an impression of somebody. Why are you doing this to me?
Starting point is 01:06:50 In 10 seconds, or you die. You can kill me legally? Is that the paperwork I signed on the way? Yep. So you will give each other someone to do. Are you serious? Yes, and you have to do it. It does not have to be good.
Starting point is 01:07:03 It only a five second impersonation. You said 10. Oh, I said 10. You changed it to five. You're like five, five, five, five. Okay. Okay. Five second impersonation.
Starting point is 01:07:14 And I'll just throw out a name and then you can throw it out for me. It's really fun. It's really fun. Okay, okay, okay, okay, let me think. Okay, ready? You can't think, you can't think about it. You just have to go. It doesn't matter. Sure. Austin Butler. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:07:30 There we go. We got him. We got him. Aye. Are we thinking of it? Should I bring him to the show? Should I do it? Should I forget to season three? Okay, give me one. Season three, I called it because it's my season three. It is your season three. Fifty-three. That was disrespectful. Fifty-three.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Joan Cusack. Oh hey you guys Okay I'm ready Don't think we're just doing voices Here we go One two three Ready
Starting point is 01:08:10 Shakira Okay All right Give me one I'm gonna I'm gonna die You have to give me one What is this is it?
Starting point is 01:08:31 What is the same? Tommy Lee Jones Now Tommy Tommy Yeah you're gonna get in the outhouse dog house, hen house every outhouse
Starting point is 01:08:46 you better check every outhouse dog house hen house around here you gotta catch the guy the fugitive we're looking for the fugitive that was him this isn't even funny anymore so you do do impressions
Starting point is 01:09:00 you did this to embarrass me Ivanka Trump go what that I'm getting fired from the show I'm on after this she can't do impressions What is that? What?
Starting point is 01:09:26 Oh my God. Fuck, that was good. Those were really good. Thank you. You know who I do think you could do well, though? Is Laura Linney? I get that a lot. You sound a lot like Laura Linney.
Starting point is 01:09:38 I get that a lot. And I watch videos of her because people have said that. Yeah. She's amazing. She is, I mean, she's so like, let's do Laura Linney impersonation. you could do it. Oh, well, now I can't do it. I just do it again.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Okay, let's have Laura Linney talking about... God, I just watched a video of her. About her, like she just had some delicious coffee. I mean, I feel like... It just went, hmm, delicious. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh my God Oh my God Oh this coffee is so delicious Oh God That was for you, Larlinny Laura we love you
Starting point is 01:10:39 Laura we love you Oh my God Oh my God You made me cry Okay oh I have to ask you one more question What are you listening to these days Watching reading What do you do to like
Starting point is 01:10:51 Space out, Checkout, laugh I'm always taking suggestions from people is there a video that you frequent? I am so big on like survivalist shows. Like to the point where me and Alison Gates, we write a lot together. Head writer at us and Elm. She's amazing.
Starting point is 01:11:10 We work outside of the show together as well, and we were on a Zoom the other day. Supposed to be working. Fully supposed to be working. And we set that aside to have a vulnerable conversation about do we, and talk to our teams and like really lay out the game plan of if we want to go on Survivor.
Starting point is 01:11:26 together. We are so serious about it in a scary way that we need to stop talking about it because both of us want it so. We watch these shows and there is one that I just got put on to called extraction. Have you heard of this? I think I might have heard of it but not really. Tell me more. I'm going to put you in this scenario. I have a laptop and it's coming into frame. You in your head pick two people that you that you trust in love. Okay, got it. Now picture that they're in a headquarters. You, Amy Poehler, are put in the wilderness. Okay. They can see you on screen. You can talk to them and say, I need food and water. But you're fighting other families. They're fighting other families in the headquarters to get you what you need because their loved one is out in the wilderness too. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:14 So they're doing their own game. And you're going, I need water. And they're like, they can't talk to you. Only you can talk to them. So you're going, every time you get a box and there's nothing in it, you don't know that they just played a game in headquarters where they can't get you water. So you're like, and then you go, I want to be extracted. And they can decide if they want to pull you out or not. Or not? They can leave you. Please go on it with me.
Starting point is 01:12:37 It takes four months of our life. Okay, I have a couple questions about this. Yes. It feels like you could just set rules before, which is like... Well, they do. So then they start crying and go, I know I said. That when I said I wanted to be extracted to not. to wait two days, but please, please get me out.
Starting point is 01:12:57 And then the family goes, no. No. She said to wait two days. And that was the conversation you mean Alison Ravine. It was like, do you want me to extract you? Dead so you're like, I don't know. Whoa. It's a fucking, you have to watch it two seasons and it's a new for a third.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Where is it on? It's on. I think I watched it on Hulu. There's also a movie called Extraction by Chris Hemsworth. Don't, I mean, watch that too, if you want. I haven't seen it. Extraction TV. Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Extracted. Oh, extracted. Extracted. Extracted. Okay, let's just look at I just want to look at a clip of it. God, it's so good. I have not had any food in six days.
Starting point is 01:13:43 I shouldn't have applied for the floor. Roblo wouldn't do this. Oh, some don't get supplies. Oh, some don't get supplies. Yes. Somewhere without fire for weeks. Oh. Begging to go home.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Oh, my job. My child has not had fire all week. Right, because that's another thing, too. It's a lot of mothers. So they're like... My child. My child needs a sleeping bag. Ma'am, your child's 35.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Yes, that is a good point. They're all in their 40s. Ma'am. Ma'am. Oh, and then they have a... Oh, this is satisfying. They have a giant button. A giant extract button.
Starting point is 01:14:24 And they have to go hit it in front of everyone. It's fair. Ashley. You're amazing. Thank you for. doing this. This was so fun. You're the best. You're so good impressions. You're so funny. You're so funny. You're so good at impressions. You were so good at impressions. We are so good. Thank you so much, Ashley. That was so
Starting point is 01:14:46 fun and so funny. And it's just a joy to talk to you and get to know you more. And, you know, Ashley talked a lot about one of her mentors, Diane Keaton, her fairy godmother. And I just feel for this polar plunge, I want to remind us all of some of the many great films that Diane made. Check out Marvin's Room, if you haven't seen that. It's so good. And Merrill Streep is in it and a young Leonardo DiCaprio, and it's such good acting. Reds, an incredible movie with Warren Beatty. It's beautiful performance from Diane.
Starting point is 01:15:24 Crimes of the Heart, Sissy Space Act, Jessica Lang. I mean, just, Diane, we miss you. Thank you, Ashley, for that fun talk. Thank you so much for listening today, and we'll see you soon. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Burman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McNallin,
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