Good Hang with Amy Poehler - D'Arcy Carden (Live)

Episode Date: August 25, 2026

D'Arcy Carden is beyond one hundred. Amy hangs with the 'Good Place' and 'Five Star Weekend' star for a live taping of 'Good Hang' and talks about being homecoming queen and class clown, whether or no...t she's a Disney adult, and kissing Lenny Kravitz on screen. Host: Amy PoehlerGuests: William Jackson Harper, Abbi Jacobson, and D'Arcy CardenExecutive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-BermanFor Paper Kite Productions: Executive producer Jenna Weiss-Berman, coordinator Sam Green, and supervising producer Joel LovellFor The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson, Belle Roman, and Aleya Zenieris; lighting director Caroline Jannace; audio producer Kaya McMullen; social producer Bridget Geerlings; video editor Drew van Steenbergen; and bookers Kat Spillane and Paige GarbariniOriginal Music: Amy Miles Live show production by: Elizabeth Fierman, Charlie Finan, Tessa Herrick, Aleya Zenieris, Jack Wilson, Darren Joe, Francis X Bernal Jr., Peter Westervelt, and Mike Wargon Brought to you by Chase Ink Credit Cards. Cash Back Built For Every Business. Compare options and see details at https://chase.com/ink Switch today at https://www.Visible.com for just 25/mo. Or get premium Visible+ pro plan and save $10 on your first month with code HANG.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:03 Good evening, everyone. How are you feeling today? Welcome to Town Hall. I am Amy Polar. I am so happy that you're joining us this evening. Ah, here we go, here we go. Before we start, we just wanted to say thank you everybody for coming and especially thank Chase Inc. Business Credit Cards, our sponsor tonight. Give them a round of applause. Thank you, Chase. We are going to start our show with a performance. Um, an old beautiful friend of mine who happens to sing the Good Hang theme song, a performer, a writer. She is an incredible artist and a wonderful person, and she's joined by her friend Chris Anderson. Give it up for Amy Miles, everybody. One thing my friend, Ms. Polar, always taught me is whenever I would say, I'm nervous, I'm nervous,
Starting point is 00:02:14 she'd say, don't say, I'm nervous. Just say, I'm so excited. So I'm excited. You ready, Mr. Chris? Yes. Okay, so... I need audience participation. Do you guys know how to clap?
Starting point is 00:02:35 Okay. So what you're gonna do is you're gonna clap 16 times really fast, just like this. You're gonna go, one, two, three, clap. Yeah, I don't know how many that was, but that sounded right. Just clap until it's like awkward. like awkward you know what I mean are you guys ready because you're part of this don't mess it up one two three it was a really if I'm bring the right and start
Starting point is 00:04:01 believing money's got a trust that the party started money's got a party that starts tonight money's got a dress that the park welcome to town national kinetic sand day not a sponsor and happy Viola Davis is birthday. How psyched are you that this show is at 6 o'clock? I know what you want. I had to do the show at 5 o'clock. And Jenna said no. She said that we have to give people some time to come from work. So just out of curiosity, did anybody leave work, by a show of hands, anybody leave work early today? People have jobs. I'm very impressed. Anybody not work today? You're all up there. Hello, you're all up there. You'll get down here one of these days.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Don't you worry. Anybody work from home today? Oh, that's great. Be in bed by 8.30. I'll be in bed by 8.30. You can watch a show tonight. It's incredible. And we're very, very excited about our guest.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I am very... You know, on the way over here, I was thinking to myself, oh, man, I get a chance to hang with Amy and Chris and this guest, and I'm like, how lucky am I? And I think you'll understand when you hear from our guest tonight. She is, talk about a good hang, our guest. This person is, well, let's just say it's Darcy Cardin joining us tonight. But Darce, I didn't even, I didn't even say hello to Darcy backstage because I wanted to keep the tension.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I wanted to. But Darcy is such an incredible actress. You may know her from The Good Place. You may know her from Broad City. You may know her from Five Star Weekend. Humongous hit. I mean, Darcy does so many things so well, and we're thrilled to be talking to her tonight,
Starting point is 00:08:13 and I think you're in for a treat. So I'm really glad you can join us. But, you know, we always do this on Good Hang. We always talk well behind our guests back. It's a little different when you're on stage, and they can hear it, but it's still the same. And we get a question from someone, who knows our guest that I can ask them.
Starting point is 00:08:33 And we are very, very excited to introduce our guest tonight. Who, oh, I don't know, maybe you know from the Good Place as Sheedy. That's all I got. And you're an American hostage with John Hamm coming out in September. Congratulations, Will. Thanks. Good to see you. Good to see you, too.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I like your hat. Thanks. Okay, great to see you. No, I'm just kidding. Well, we do this thing, you know, where we talk about our guest. And I want to get into Darcy because it's so easy to talk about her. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:09:32 Yes. Right? We can talk about how great she is all night. All night and all day, yeah. But how was your day? Largely uneventful. I hung out with my wife, Allie, and hung out with my dog Chico and did nothing else. Nice.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Yeah, it was pretty great. Did you get caught in the rainstorm? that I heard happened just a bit ago? No. No. You didn't get it? Missed it entirely. Now, what's a nothing day for you look like? What's your dream nothingness, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:08 Oh, dream nothingness or like the typical nothingness? Oh, that's an existential question right there. That's some good place shit right there. Yeah, yeah. Dream nothingness is going to the gym on the early side. Okay. and then going to have brunch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Like late morning. So you're having that cocktail around like 12, 15 or so? And we earned it because we went to the gym. We went to the gym. And what are we doing at the gym? What kind of reps and stuff? All right. Well, when you get in my split?
Starting point is 00:10:45 Yeah, it ranges. Like, I do strength training like three days a week and then what am I still? And then I do like hit training and cardio sports. stuff another three days. Okay, fantastic. Brunch and then? And then a nap. Yeah, because we're drinking during the day. We're drinking during the day. Yeah. And then maybe... And we have a show to get to it six o'clock. This is also a six o'clock show is, I'm so excited. Thank you. You know, people laugh when I say it, but I, I wish I could, I wish every show is a matinee. I, I, I, I, I, I, I know.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Actually, Al and I go to matinees. Yeah. For theater shows often because we're just like, I don't want to be coming home when it's dark outside. No. I want to be inside already. Yeah. Like 10.30, I want my head gear on. I want to be fully.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Yeah. Yeah. Fully in pajama mode. Yeah. Yeah. Do the red light therapy and all that stuff. Yeah. Well, I feel like we have a lot to talk about.
Starting point is 00:11:56 And I want to talk about. and I want to talk about your partnership in many ways with Darcy because that show was such an ensemble and you guys like really loved each other. And you can tell from the work and it's not surprising because of the kind of show you made together. And, you know, Darcy has so many people that want to speak well of her.
Starting point is 00:12:16 And we thought, you know, because she's such a dynamic, wonderful person, we should maybe bring out two people who love Darcy. So joining us along with Will, from, well, author, producer, actor, Enneagram 8,
Starting point is 00:12:33 and and Broad City star Abby Jacobson, everybody. About two. Yeah, what was your workout? A lot of reps, heavy stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yeah. But your circuit. Yeah, lots of different circuits. It's constant constantly mixing it up. Yeah, yeah. You gotta keep it fresh. Yeah, muscle confusion.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yeah, lower, body, upper, back. Yeah, you love doing back. Yeah, I love back. I have worked on fantastic groundbreaking shows that have a common denominator, which is Darcy is in them. And I guess I just wanted to ask what it's like to have a person like her around at work.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Well, all right, like for Darcy and I, I feel like it was like the good place was kind of our first like big, big, like we're here every day kind of job. And we were, I feel like we sort of bonded over how not normal it was, which was a lot of fun, you know, to sort of like show up and like, you know, they feed you. you know and and you know it's like that you you you you you get paid enough to pay the you know the rent and like just things like that
Starting point is 00:14:30 and just being like oh wow and then like doing things like afterwards like with the like panels and all this stuff and people have watched the thing that you're in and you're like what is what is what is this like how this isn't normal at all and so like bonding over how not normal
Starting point is 00:14:47 everything was and sort of going through all of that the first time together was really like it really bonded us because I mean I think I don't know I won't speak for for Darst but I know that it was like it came at a time in life when I was like well you know I probably won't get to experience that kind of job or that kind of life and to have someone else there in the same sort of space that I could check in with was great. Oh, that's special. And also, you're like, you've, you've been, you know, you've been working for a while, so it's not like your first job. Right. So you can, you can have like some wisdom around knowing that it's good. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, this is, that was, that was great. That was, we were spoiled on that job. It was fantastic. Yeah. And Abby, what's it like having Darcy around
Starting point is 00:15:39 when you work? I mean, I work together a few times. Yeah. You've made out heavily. We have made out heavily. We have me and I have a lot. I think, you know, I go, Darsie and I go way back. I was thinking about this today. I met her in a UCB class, commercial acting class, which is like not really a typical UCB class, but immediately I was like, that's the funniest person. Maybe I've come across and so kind and generous and warm. And I was very new. This was probably 2007. I was like, everybody's kind of scary.
Starting point is 00:16:23 And Darcy is not that way. And I think after that, we just became really good friends. And then I was like, if I ever, I mean, at that point, I wasn't like, I'm going to get a show and then I'll get to write her on the show. But eventually, I was like, this person has to be. on everything I ever get to do. First on Broad City. I mean, so people who don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:50 I should apologize for that to her, because Gemma. What we made Jarsi do? Yeah. I was like, yeah, we were like, so you're going to be the only naked one. Today, all day. And she's like, got to, got to go.
Starting point is 00:17:06 She's just like so. How would you describe that character? Both characters that I've gotten to work opposite Darcy, I think, are getting to amplify a part of her that you see when you're friends with her, which is this like really silly, like, like, she's just the most fun. And Gemma is, like, Darcy's not Gemma, but Gemma's, like, wacky and, like, says it all and means it and is the, and is the, the most flirtatious, like, sexually, like, all of it out there. And that's not Darcy, but Darcy, like, has that. Yeah. And I think when I got into league, I was like,
Starting point is 00:17:54 Darcy is, like, this incredible actor and, like, has this huge comedic range. But when I'm with Darcy, she's also, like, the sexiest. Yeah, she has some swag. She just is. She's, like, she's, like, so flirtatious. And so when we were creating Greta, I was like, this is a thing that I see in Darcy all the time. But I don't know if the world has gotten to see. And obviously, Darcy's not Greta, but there's like the heart of her.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I was like, I want her to show this part of her. And then there's also like the silliness and the openness and the vulnerability that is in Darcy. So, yeah, did I answer it? I don't even remember what I asked. It's a really cool thing, though, is it's kind of remarkable to see someone who has all those things that you're talking about and can be so incredibly vulnerable. But then is like a very easy hang and very easy to be around. Yeah, somebody even say good. A good hang.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Somebody even say good. Someone would say that. And I'm curious if you feel this way. like the best scene partner. Yeah. Like the best. Like giving you everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Yeah. Yeah. She's locked in. And I feel like I'm talking about like a college recruit. Well, I just want people to feel like they're watching their own funeral. Is that weird? Dars, is that weird? We'll talk about it.
Starting point is 00:19:29 So what question do you guys want to know? something, you know, small or big, something you want to have Darcy talk about a story or something you don't know about her. You've both known her a long time. Anything you think I should ask her. I want to know when Darcy knew she was funny. Great, great. And Abbs? I have two. Okay. Okay, here we go. First one is she's been in so many things. She's acting so many roles. but I feel like there's definitely something that she hasn't gotten to do yet as an actor. And like, or I don't, I'm wondering if she, if there's a thing that she's dying to do. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:20:19 And then my other question, I'm sure a lot of people are curious this. of all the people that she's gotten the opportunity to kiss. Which one? Like, did she feel was the best? Yes. I love these questions. Thank you so much for these questions.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Thank you for talking about our friend. Thank you guys both. Again, if you get the subway, you literally could be asleep by 7.30. I don't mean to... Like 8, like 8 o'clock? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:16 We leave. But I was going to say, thank you so much. Well and after... This episode is brought to you by Visible. Why does it feel like summer ends as soon as it begins? One day, the sun. is finally shining bright and the next thing you know, there's football on TV again. It's time to soak up the last dog days of summer and that means staying connected to what you love.
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Starting point is 00:22:38 It's so good to hear about our friend who's joining us tonight. So without further ado, please give it up everybody for Darcy Cardin. First of all, are there two people in the back row that would rather sit in the front row? Oh, look at this. Just two of you. Come up here. This caring person. Hurry, now.
Starting point is 00:23:24 It's your chance, literally. If you have to be on the aisle, though. Ready, go. Yeah, there they go. Good job, Daris. And that seat was saved for a Guffman. Gussie didn't show. Guffman didn't show.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Hi, Amy. Before we start, I have a present for you. Wait, I feel like, what do I do right now? Should I scoot back so I can see you there? Great, that's a great call. Let's adjust. Okay, we're gonna- Well, I want you to come this way and face me more. Okay, maybe I'm not doing it because I want to give you the present.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I don't want to reveal. Okay, give you the present first. So first and foremost here is, I know how much you love fake food. What about a very realistic looking corn? I don't have corn. Hold on, hold on. It feels like there's a button underneath it, but maybe you could press. I don't know, hold it up to the microphone or something.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Oh, okay, here we go. Here we go. This is opera corn? Opera corn. Opera corn. Wow. So listeners. Um, uh, Darcy is handed me what is a glistening, glassed corn cob.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Slickton butter. Gorgeous. And it, and it has a button and it plays. Let's just hear it one more time. Yeah, please. Of course. Okay. Okay, so do you feel good about, am I, um, am I, are we fine?
Starting point is 00:25:29 I think we're fine. Are we fine? Oh, Jenna. You guys will tell us. Okay. Has this ever been said before? For the first, I don't know, three times I listened to the podcast when it first came out, I would have bet $1 million that you were singing the theme song.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Anyone else? You guys are twinsis. Oh my God, I wish. That's my dream to sing like Amy Miles. But yes, much like Nicole Kidman, I insisted on singing my own theme song. Do you guys remember when she sang that theme song? It was so good. What show was that for?
Starting point is 00:26:10 I don't know. No, not really much. I love them. theme song of Moulon Rouge. This week on Moulin Rouge. For a TV show, I believe it was with Hugh Grimm. The undoing, thank you. The one with the coats.
Starting point is 00:26:30 That was Nicole. She can do it all. We know this because of the Moulon Rouge. We know this. And also, I want to say, Darcy, thank you. You were on our second episode. You did this. You gave me a question for Rashida Jones.
Starting point is 00:26:46 That was so fun. And thank you. Because, you know, when people invest early in podcast before. I know, you're coming on before you know if it's going to be something special. Amy, anything for you and I cannot mean that enough. Thank you, buddy. Anything for you.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Thank you. I love you. I love you. Yeah. I love you. I love you. That's great. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Okay. So, let's get down to business, Darcy. I just want to keep goofing. Well, you grew up in the Bay area. Yes. And, yeah, and you know, I know. That's my cousin, Neva. And also the Bay Area, I think of the Lonely Island.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Yes, yes, totally. And Bay Area is like, for us East Coast people, it's like, what is it? Yes, totally. Like, it feels like such a big area. Yes, yes. Such is a Bay? The Bay Area. The entire area?
Starting point is 00:27:38 It's like, it would be like if we were like, we grew up, like, we're from like the tri-state area. Yes, you never say that. I thought about this before that, like, there's. There's not a lot of areas. Yeah. We don't talk about it in area. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:51 The Bay Area. The Bay Area. The Bay Area. The Bay Area. It's almost one word. The Bay Area. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And your dad, you called yourself, you've, like, in a very sweet and, like, self-effacing way, you've called yourself a Nepo baby because your dad. Your dad was in the music business, and he started a magazine, Bam, which was a music magazine. Bay Area Music. Bay Area music. Yeah. So I've never seen a picture of your dad. He's Turkish.
Starting point is 00:28:17 He's Turkish and Greek, half and half. What did he look like? He looks like... Oh, it does look like. Yeah, he looks exactly like Harold Ramos. Great. Like, no, I'm like expecting a picture to... Like...
Starting point is 00:28:29 Like, like, that. Like, you're just listening. A picture popped up. So, not like, not like mustache. There was, he had a mustache for one church play. Okay. And he was in or he attended? And he was in.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I think it was our town. And did he know any Turkish? Well, he must have. He was born there. Right. Yes. But he moved to America when he was, I want to say like, at like three or four.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Okay. But he was like, you know, three or fours talk. Three or four is talk. Three or four year olds talk. They talk. They do talk. Yes. They talk all the time.
Starting point is 00:29:12 They be talking. Yeah, they'd be talking. So he did know Turkish and now he really doesn't. Do you know any Turkish? I don't know any Turkish. And I'm, and I'm, like, full of shame about it. I've never been to Turkey. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:29:25 We, we're, like, he's also half Greek, and I feel like I know a lot of. And did he kind of absorb, like, that's what he embraced a little bit more? I think Greeks in the audience maybe know, like, it does sort of take over. If you're, like, a little Greek, you're 100% Greek. Yeah. If your spouse is Greek, you are Greek. I mean, look what's happening now. The Greeks are going nuts.
Starting point is 00:29:44 They're dancing in the aisles. All right, all right, all right. Spanacopata on the wall. Exactly. But, yeah. So I feel like we really, we were like a Greek family. Okay. I'm saying this.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I know no Greek either. Say I got, ooh. Okay. That means I love you. And your dad loved music. Yeah. You know a lot about music. You grew up loving music.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Was there any, I mean, to have a cool dad who loves music, was there, ever music that you like, that he was like, this is garbage? This is so funny that you're saying this. Okay, my mom is equally, my mom and dad started this magazine together. Excuse me. No, no, no, please. Erasing the woman. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:30:20 already seven minutes in. She is, my mom is like very behind the scene. So her name, she wasn't like Denison Lori's magazine at all. She was just like, you know, she was there with him. And she also has this like incredible sort of encyclopedic knowledge of music. And out of absolutely nowhere, I think three days ago she texted me.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I wish I had my phone. I want to read it to you. She was like, when you were in junior high, told you that I didn't like the sound of Eddie Vedder's voice and you got really mad at me. And I just want to say, I think he has a great voice and I'm really sorry. She was making amends. Yes, it was wild. It was so wild.
Starting point is 00:31:06 And I was like, I actually really appreciate that. And I was like, I'm sorry. It's funny to think of like 12 year old you being like, my love Pearl Jam. Yeah. Screw you. It is how you were like rebelling a little bit against cool parents. And I think also we did, you know, my siblings and I really loved a lot of my parents' music. And my parents also liked really modern music.
Starting point is 00:31:26 So to have anything that they didn't, that they weren't into felt like, I don't know. Also, I grew up in the Bay Area. So Bay Area. I know. I know. I know. We, we listened to like a lot of hip hop. I feel like my mom was always sort of like, okay.
Starting point is 00:31:40 She was really into run DMC. But the rest of it, she was like, great, enjoy. Like, there was just some things that sort of missed her. Right. But in general, my dad and I, I feel like, We really liked a lot of the same music. And actually, I'm just remembering that also my mom didn't like Pink Floyd. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Hot take, hot take. And then when I was in college, I sort of discovered that I really like Pink Floyd. And my dad was like, finally, I love Pink Floyd. He's like, I can't talk about it around your mother. Exactly. You know, can I talk about Pink Floyd for a second? Please, Amy. Songs are too long.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Three minutes. Or die. I mean, there's a couple times It's like man spreading It is It's like dude We get it Come on
Starting point is 00:32:37 It's kind of like You already said that Yeah I heard you Exactly Yeah yeah yeah You already said that You already said that
Starting point is 00:32:45 Now did you go to shows all the time This was like to me that my One of the coolest parts of my childhood Was that my parents really included us In the concerts of it all And everything everything came through the Bay Area, so we saw everything.
Starting point is 00:33:01 They would just, yeah, they would take us to everything. And do you remember, like, a formative moment when you were a young person watching somebody on stage? Yeah, I do. I like, well, Huey Lewis was my first concert. Oh my God, Huey Lewis was one of my first concerts, too.
Starting point is 00:33:16 That's cool. That is cool. That is cool. And I also remember... Give it up for Huey Lewis. Wait, what? Give it up for Huey Lewis. Thank you, guys.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Talented. Such a voice talented and the harmony the whole band and the news give it up for the news I get any credit
Starting point is 00:33:37 I remember being much like you guys in the very front row of an Eddie Money concert I was just talking about Eddie Money the other day you were
Starting point is 00:33:46 yes I was looking him up when we were driving because I was like what is Eddie Money's deal what is this deal first of all it can't be the name his mother gave him
Starting point is 00:33:55 and it's not right no what a cool name I believe his last name is Mahoney and his real last name is Mahoney. I mean, that's kind of a cool, like, from Mahoney to money.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Yeah. But he did one of the, I think, I bet this was like my second or third concert. I was so little, probably too little to be there. But he did the thing where he's singing to the mic, and then he put it down to me. And I remember being like,
Starting point is 00:34:16 but, you know, cool, cool to, there's something about, when I say like, nepo baby, what I mean is like, there was no, like the proximity, like to be close. Well, you were around creative. people. Right. That's like, and I know
Starting point is 00:34:38 NEPO actually doesn't mean that, but what we've sort of decided NEPO baby means. It's like I think a lot of people you know, are like want to be an actor and they are raised in Ohio or something and they're like, well, I don't, I've never seen a movie filmed here, so I don't really understand, you know, like it doesn't, you can't like grab it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:54 And so there was something about, even though the music industry is not the, it's the entertainment industry and I was like, well, that could be a career. That could be something that you like do with your entire life. Yes. Did you ever want to go into music? I kind of did. I mean, really when, maybe this is like every kid, but when I was in elementary school, I made like a, we had to make something like about our future.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And I drew myself as a pop star as an actor, as a major league baseball player. I mean, you made that happen. I know. Yeah. And then as the president. Sure. But like overly confident. My God.
Starting point is 00:35:29 That's a very healthy child. I think I think that's great. That's my parents. Now, I've heard that you. As a young person also had a big love for Annie. Yes. Can we talk about Annie a lot? Can we talk about Annie for it?
Starting point is 00:35:44 When did you see Annie? Annie, I guess, was my first real play. Like, we saw a lot of children's theater where you're kind of like sitting on the stage or whatever. But Annie, we went to the Concord Pavilion. Neva knows it. And we saw like a real production of Annie. And did you have this thing where you were just like,
Starting point is 00:36:03 get me up there? 100%. get me up there. I feel like it was a real, it's a real divining moment for young women of our age, or maybe you're younger than me, but like in that age group where Annie was like, it was like incredible
Starting point is 00:36:17 parts for young women. There was like 12 orphans. Also, the idea of being an orphan, the idea of being an orphan was like, it was so romantic. It really was. Yeah. It really was. Let's play orphans like that. Yeah, exactly. Let's be orphans. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Like, we don't understand. And the Aides, like, orphans were cool. Yes. I know. I know, I know. Why is that? And I always, for some reason, I was like, well, certainly I wouldn't play Annie, but Pepper. Yeah, you're right. And there was just this moment of like, the songs are, it was like, they're singing about us. Yes, totally. Okay, now, okay, now I'm just going to bring up this damn Nepo thing one more time, but, but we got to go backstage. Okay, whatever. Sorry to brag. And in my, whatever age this was, four or five-year-old, deludeau. or whatever this was, Ms. Hanigan was backstage, the woman who played Miss Hanigan, and she was sort of like bent over talking to someone and I slapped her ass.
Starting point is 00:37:15 No, no, Darcy. No. No. Like, almost like, like I punched her in the face. It was just like, you bad laugh. Reaction? I think she was kind of like, who. He was not expecting some weird little like girl boy.
Starting point is 00:37:46 You love to sing. You love to harmonize. I do, yeah, you do too. I have the lyrics. I have the lyrics to Maybe by Annie. Just sing the first couple lines. With you. Yeah, let's try it.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I don't remember it. Maybe far a year by... What a song. What a kind of sad, romantic song. I know, we were just talking about it and we were like, could be a song in a wedding? It kind of could. It can't be.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Can it? Betcha he reads. Betcha he reads. Betcha he reads. Betcha she sews. Maybe she's made me a closet of clothes. Maybe they're strict as straight as a line. Don't really care as long as they're.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Good job, Annie. Okay, so then you get to teen years. And you fucking do the coolest thing. You put an apostrophe in your name. You put an apostrophe in your name. I'm kind of Eddie Money in that way. It's your Eddie Money moment. That's my Eddie Money moment.
Starting point is 00:39:28 And you come to school and you're like, you put it. So for people who don't know, Darcy's spell, how do you spell your name? It was just D, lowercase, ARCY. Right. And then I really became obsessed with grunge music and smashing pumpkins. And Smashing Pumpkins has Darcy Retsky on base. And she was just like the fucking coolest.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Sorry. And child in the front. Child in the front. Okay. Good to know. Good to know. Hey. Hey.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Hi. Hi. Hi. Child in the front. Hey. So maybe for us. Um. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:04 And I just, I just, I was, thank you. I was basically like, she's cool. Yes. I love her. She's cool. I want to be her. Mm-hmm. And I, it was a.
Starting point is 00:40:13 a, it was a not decision. It was just like, then that was my name. It wasn't a big decision. It really was just like, first of all, that's an earth-shattering decision. It's so funny. It really was like, I wasn't like, should I, could I? I just did it. And when you walked into school, I was like, pop my collar. I picture that. Like, I'm very, it just was like, I just started doing it. I just started doing it. And my mom was like, hmm? And she does this thing. She doesn't really do it anymore, but she would often like sign a letter, M-apostrophe O-M. It was like a little, just like, I can do it too, Dars. Cute.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Yeah. Lori. You know, I have a quick Darcy story from Smashy and Pumpkins, which is I was waiting tables in Chicago. And one of the guys, they was like, oh, I do a catering business on the side and I cater weddings. We need extra help. Can you help me this weekend? I said, sure.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Oh, we're going to somebody's house for a wedding. Who is it? It's Darcy from the Smith. I'm not ashamed of my god. You catered Darcy's wedding, Amy? Well, I didn't, I didn't cater. I passed around hors d'oeuvres and stuff. I think that's catering. Right, you can cook a food. Right, right. Right. Yes, but I had a white shirt and black pants. And she lived in Michigan City, Michigan. Wow. I forget who she was marrying. I could look it up, but I, it's just, there's no way to know. My laptop's so far away.
Starting point is 00:41:38 It's so heavy. It's so, it's like, and I hope they're together. I don't know. And I don't think they are. And I don't think they are. And I hope they are. And I don't believe that they are. I don't believe they are. But it was a very intimate small wedding, and Billy Corgan sang in the living room. Oh, my. I know. Is this like something that you've told before? I did.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I wrote about it in my book because... Wait, I've read your books. I was like, only me with the Darcy story. But she was so cool even at her wedding as well. At her wedding. Was she wearing not a white dress? Oh, that's a great question. what I mean, it's got to be black.
Starting point is 00:42:18 You know, my memories are like... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get you. You know, they're really like a... You know, like, when a child makes a drawing... Yes. And then it's left out in the rain. And you're kind of like... And it's just like colors, and there was a tree.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Yeah, totally. That's how it feels. Yeah, that's... I mean... Yeah. Yeah. You are also class clown in high school. Congratulations. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:42:46 I love a woman... A woman. Woman class clown. A woman class clown. Well, I would just say that women who are class clown kind of sometimes go two ways. Right. Sometimes they're the bad kids. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Mischievous. Right. And then they're just genuinely funny. Rachel Dratch was class clown. She was. Rosie O'Donnell, class clown. Yes. And, yes, Rosie O'Donnell, class clown and also prom queen.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Me too. You were prom queen too? We didn't have prom queen, but we had homecoming. Oh, yeah, homecoming queen and class clown? It's incredible. It was the apostrophe. Okay, well, here's... It was the apostrophe.
Starting point is 00:43:24 You know what's funny is like, this is because we're doing this live, I feel like I can, like, peek behind the curtain. The guests ahead of time are supposed to be a surprise. Right. Okay, you should know. Abby absolutely spilled the beans. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:36 We forgot to tell... You know, I don't love surprises. Okay. And I get stressed out about pranks. Yeah. Oh, I do too. God, I do. So I don't want to make anybody feel like they have to keep a secret.
Starting point is 00:43:46 And it was... And also, it's not like I knew what they were going to say. It was actually perfect because then I could hang out with them backstage and everything. Great. So I was like, tell or not tell up to you. It reminded me that my dad spilled the beans the night before, the homecoming queen. Isn't that funny? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Is that funny? I guess not. So maybe a... But it just reminded me where I was like, do I like to know things in the moment or do I like a little heads up? But my dad was like, I got to tell you. You got homecoming queen. Oh, he didn't really... He didn't like accidentally spill the beans.
Starting point is 00:44:15 He told you. He fully told. And my mom was like, yes. And then he went, just kidding. Dennis? He couldn't tolerate his own stress about it. That's right. Yes, tell me. That's kind of a cute memory.
Starting point is 00:44:29 And did you like it? I did, because then I didn't have to be. You prepped. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you were like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. I was kind of like, oh, my God. It's like the Bay Area.
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Starting point is 00:45:40 Are we checking our pants? Well, my pants did that, you know... Well, here's the thing about pants now. Pants are ridiculous now. They're stupid. And everybody knows it. Everybody, they're so big. They're so big.
Starting point is 00:45:52 many pleats. And I want them big, but then when you sit, they're like, ha, ha, ha. This is the joke part. You look insane. So how do you go from theater? Where do you go to college? Southern Oregon University in Ashland, Oregon. Interesting. How do you get there? Okay, you go straight up that? Okay, because I couldn't remember the freeway either. So, okay, Ashland is a big, it has the, the, I want to say it's the, the, I want to say it's the, the, biggest Shakespeare Festival in the country. Is that right? Ashland connoisseurs? Yeah. Um, um, and I, and so my theater class in high school every year we would go up and watch a bunch of plays. And I just loved it. It's like a, it's like an almost like a bless you blast from the past,
Starting point is 00:46:41 like out of Elizabethan era, uh, town. Ooh. Cool. It's, it's wild. So you used to go out there and watch Shakespeare. Yes. So you enjoy Shakespeare? I do. But don't hold that against I don't. I enjoy Shakespeare too, but I don't. It's a long process for me. I know. I know. Yeah. It's a long process for me. It doesn't, it does another sneeze? Chill out. We already have the one. Oh my God, guys. I, I, I mean, you know, I love Shakespeare when it's good. Yeah. I mean, whatever. Also, I've seen, like, I've seen kids do Shakespeare and it can be good. But, but, um... Can it?
Starting point is 00:47:27 No. Not good. No. Yeah, they do it. Cute. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're kind of like, eh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Yeah. Just do at least like Shakespeare Jr. Yeah. Don't give me the full Monty. Yeah, you're right. Do a quick, quick Shakespeare. But I did, you know, it's like I fell in love with it so hard in, I guess, high school, but really in college where we studied it. Cool.
Starting point is 00:47:49 And then the further away I get from college, it's been two years now. What is that joke? The further away I get the less I like have a connection to it. So I'm almost like, I need to, I'm like scared of it a little bit. I'm like, do I remember? What's my favorite show? Who's my favorite character? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Now, do you have a part, Shakespearean part you would have loved to have played or you did play and love doing? In midsummer, I always really loved Helena. Yes. Which I'm sure, you know, she's our, if we're before. I was in college, we did midsummer night's dream and I was one of the fairies. I always peas blossom. Peasbossom.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Peas Blossom. Of course you were freaking Peas Blossom. I was Titania. Titania. Titania. Titanic. Who's that? She was like, the queen in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:48:37 And then you kind of never sheer again, Jillian. Oh, I'm having a memory now that I was also, I doubled up and I was the New Yorker that comes in. Excuse me. Isn't there in New York? What?
Starting point is 00:49:04 So how do you go from Shakespeare to? Comedy to UCB. Okay. So I do my four years in Ashland. I loved it. I loved it. It was a great college experience,
Starting point is 00:49:17 but I was like itchy as hell to get to New York. I had to get to New York. And so truly like, you know, graduated and high-tailed it to New York. And spent like a year or two auditioning for things and doing what every actor that comes to New York does, which is kind of go like, oh, it's harder than I thought it was going to be. Yeah, like, this is really something they weren't kidding. And had like, I think I had hit the two-year mark and I was like, I love it here, but I think I don't want to like keep tempting. Like I probably just have to, I'll move back home or whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:56 But I loved it. Like I'm so glad I did my two years. And Amy, then a friend, took me to a UCB show. And it was, and I knew what you see. UCB was from the TV show. I knew who you were because I was a big fan of you from SNL. But I didn't really know what UCB was in as far as like, you know, the live theater of it all. And I had seen some improv that was more like short for me and always enjoyed it, but it wasn't like calling my name. And I, my friend took me to an ASCat, which is like the big UCB show every Sunday night.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Yes. And yes. And. And. And, wow. Wow. It's so good. And you were in the show,
Starting point is 00:50:44 which she wasn't every week at all. She's a busy lady, but she was in the show, and it was like Jack McPray and Rob Wrigal and Jason Manzoukis and maybe Seth Myers. It was like, I was kind of like, oh, whoa, holy shit, oh, God. Like just, and then had the thing where you almost like go into like a tunnel of light. And I watched the show and like everybody else fell away. and I was like a little bit like the Annie moment
Starting point is 00:51:09 where I was like, get me up there. Yes. Get me the hell up there. Everything in my life just changed. This is all I want to do. This is like, like I figured it out. I found it and I signed up for class the next day and it was so long ago that you would like bring your form
Starting point is 00:51:26 and your check in to sign up for class. And the person that took my check was an intern named Donald Glover. Amazing. any money moment childish can be now and then I just became obsessed and I stayed in New York for 11 years and it became my like my life my love my church my everything everything everything
Starting point is 00:51:52 yes and I feel like a similar feeling with you about our love of improv like which I know like any art form you can kind of make fun of it improv is definitely made fun of a lot because it's like not, it doesn't feel cool sometimes. But I think it's like the coolest thing in the world and the coolest people do it, I think. What do you like about it? By the way, I agree so hard. And truly like the top of that pyramid or whatever is you, dude.
Starting point is 00:52:25 I mean, I could spend the entire episode talking about you and what you mean to me and what you mean to us, but what you mean to me, you, like, you, in so many ways you completely changed my life and, like, showed me how to do it. You really, like, showed me how to do the thing I wanted to do that I didn't know even existed. And that's improv, but that's everything. Like, bitch. I mean, I, yeah. Thank you. You know, like, it's, it is always a weird thing to be, like, friends with somebody that you actually worship.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Well, that's just the breaks. But I, you know, I agree. I know it's sort of like almost cool or trendy to shit on improv. And I don't even care. Yeah. I don't care. I don't play to it. Like I get it.
Starting point is 00:53:16 If you don't like it or if you think it's cringy. I think it's like magical art. I think it can be the funniest thing you have ever seen in your entire life. The way it like connected me to people that I'm still friends with all these years later. And in like a special way that's different than just working together or doing a show together. like a sort of psychic bond, you know. It also shows you like how to be a person in the world, not just an actor. That's right.
Starting point is 00:53:48 You know, like listen to the person, set you up for success. Like I want you to succeed. I want to help you. I want you to help me. I want to be a team. I mean, all I ever wanted was a really good hang. All I ever wanted was to like be on a team. Yes, to be on a team.
Starting point is 00:54:05 And you bring up the word, listen. I feel like it teaches you because it's kind of life or death because you have to listen very carefully because you're like, where are we? What are we doing? What are you talking about? And that kind of active listening bonds people really fast. I agree. And when you're around people that aren't used to or don't practice that listening, it's like, whoa. Yeah. I mean, in life and in work. Totally. It's also what makes you like so unbelievably good at this, you know? Okay. Enough about that. Sorry, sorry, sorry. But I mean, but also as an actor and everything. But Don't you think everything, like as a director, as a writer, as a mom.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Like, I'm sure it's like just a person in the world. Yes. And I also feel like if you have that skill, if you feel like you can, then it's like some form of meditation where you're actually in the present moment, which is impossible to be. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is impossible to actually be where you are sitting here, feet on the ground, sneezing, whatever you're doing.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Right. It's impossible to actually be not racing ahead or thinking back. For me, it's a lifelong lesson. Improv helps me stay in my body, actually. A hundred percent agree. Oh, you took a breath. Okay. No, keep going.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I was going to say I'm having a memory of the first show I did with you. Yes. What is it? It was an ASCAT. So I was like, I was on the sort of list of performers that would kind of like fill in last minute, which was a dream come true. I was so happy to be included. And so on a Sunday night, I would kind of keep my Sundays open just in case.
Starting point is 00:55:41 And sometimes you'd know in the morning, sometimes it would be like someone bailed a half hour ago, can you get here? And I would always try to do it. But there was like a night where husband Jason, hi Jason, and I, we were, I mean, oh my God, we were dirt poor. But we decided to like go to a nice dinner for some reason. In our neighborhood, I think we were new to Brooklyn Heights and we went to like a nice dinner. And I ordered a freaking steak. Like, we were having a nice dinner, and we're sitting there having, like, a nice little romantic date, and I get a text, and it was like, uh, someone dropped out, can you be at UCP in like 30 minutes? And I was like, bye. And I'm not kidding, I got up so fast that I knocked over the table behind me. And Jason was like, go!
Starting point is 00:56:26 Oh! And then we got to do a show together, and you were so warm and welcoming and cool, and we did, it was actually, like, it's hard to remember improv, of shows and scenes. But I kind of remember it and it was like actually a great show. And you did the thing that you do, which is like on the back line, which is like when we're not in the scene, but we're still on the stage, so you shouldn't really talk. You like talk to me and said I did something funny and you said like, you made me laugh so much. And I was just like, I like ascended into the heavens. And you just, you take care of your people and you're such a giver. You're such a giver. You're such a giver with your laugh and your love and that mean, and your, and your praise.
Starting point is 00:57:07 It really, it changes people's lives. Thank you, Darcy. Thank you. Sorry. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. In the words of Lean Away, yes. Thank you and I received that.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Okay, great. That's all I needed. I just need to tell you. I received that. But you're talking about Jason, you're a wonderful husband who you met at Disneyland. I know. Why did it have to be that? Jason.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Jason, producer, are you a Disney adult? Do you care about Disney? Oh, well, you got one. Not like that, but I'm not a Disney adult and yet I go every year. We go every year. Okay. This is actually a really good question is what makes someone a Disney adult because going once a year feels like not so much. That's not so crazy.
Starting point is 00:57:51 But once a year, like what? I mean, it is really fun to go with like my nieces and nephews. It's really fun. But you go sometimes without them? We went twice without. We went twice without. But with nieces and nephews, like, just took my whole family. We just went in the spring and it was so fun.
Starting point is 00:58:09 And, you know. And when you were with Jason, when you met Jason, you were with a group of people. Yes. And what was the moment? The meet cute. Well, I was like hubba, damn hubba. Yeah. But I was also like not looking for a boyfriend or anything.
Starting point is 00:58:25 I was just kind of like, that guy is cute. And then I sort of like, I think I class clown him a little bit. You class clown. I was like burped at one point, which is fine. Girls can burp. Yeah, they can burp. I have some weird thing that pops in my sternum, and I was like, hey, feel this, brother? Flirting with him.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Right. But I was definitely like, oh, I like him. And then, yeah. And how long have you guys been together now? We have been together for like 20 years. He's the very best. Around this time, you also meet Abby Jacobson, Alana Glazer. Alana G.
Starting point is 00:59:12 And you guys worked together. many different ways, including Broad City, which we mentioned. Do you remember those times coming in because, you know, there is a Reddit thread about your character on Broad City? What do you mean? What, just like, like, just a lot of theories about her. You should go down if you ever want to go down. I want to go down.
Starting point is 00:59:33 I think you should. I don't know. Sometimes it's scary to go down. For sure. But I bet they're pro. I feel like, yeah, that's true. Also, there's like enough distance that I could handle it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:42 If it was like current, I might be like, no. Yeah. So those early scrappy days. Scrappy Dapie-Dap-Doo. So scrappy. What is it like to have worked on a show that, like, you've worked at a couple now where people come up and still feel really connected to it? It's kind of like a little bit beyond wildest dreams.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Because I think I just wanted to act. And you want to touch people, but you almost don't think about that next step of them, like, letting you know that. And with a show like Broad City, that people keep discovering and rediscovering, and it kind of like, you know, especially younger generations are like, feel seen.
Starting point is 01:00:25 And a show like The Good Place. I mean, I really, I, in league of their own, like, I've really lucked out with some shows that have meant, have touched people. Yeah. And hearing that, I mean, you know, like, it's kind of beyond wildest dreams. Do you have, Abby had a question for you.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Yeah. Which was, do you have, well, she had two. Yeah, she did. Let's get the easy one out of the way first. Who did you like to kiss the most? Okay, let's see. Okay, here's the thing you may not know. I have kissed so many people on camera.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Fantastic. It's actually crazy. Men and women? Men and women. Should I name ten? Yeah. Okay, let me see how quickly I can do this. Okay, Abby, Gemma Chan, Roberta Klan,
Starting point is 01:01:13 Justin Long, are you ready for this? Lenny Kravitz. Kristen Bell. Damn it. Okay, that's six. Wow. There's more. There's more. But whatever, but whatever.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Ab, Kravitz is in the race. Ab, yeah, yeah. That's tough. It's Abbey. It's Abby. Yeah, it's Abby. It's Abby. It's totally Abby.
Starting point is 01:01:43 What's it like to kiss your friend? Want to try? Want to find out? that's such a straight person question I'm like wait a minute you kissed your friend who's a girl wow you know it's funny it's like
Starting point is 01:02:08 it's it is it's like the it's like the immediate sort of awkwardness of like okay let's go we're gonna kiss that you're my friend we've know each other for a long time and then there's something like very easy about it it's like the
Starting point is 01:02:22 the awkward moments that may come later don't come Yeah, yes. It's really easy. And we were also goofing. We were kind of like, this is crazy. Yeah. And we did get, like, there's like a really great, in my opinion, a great scene, great kiss in that pilot episode in the first episode. And we did it a few times and we were like, wow, this is great.
Starting point is 01:02:41 We're doing it. We're doing it. And then Jamie Babid, an amazing director who directed that first one was like, guys, you got to use tongue. She's like, what are you doing? More tongue. And we were like, okay. We've hunged each other down. But you know, it's better than the opposite, right?
Starting point is 01:03:02 What? What's the opposite? The opposite of they were like, guys. Oh, my God. Can you imagine if you got the note of like, guys? Just one of you. Just one of you gets the note. It's like, Darcy, can I speak to you for a second?
Starting point is 01:03:18 Oh. Hey, and what were you doing? I know. It's so good. I'm so lost in the character. I didn't even. Yeah. And we can tell.
Starting point is 01:03:25 And it's so good. But you've got to stop using so much time. It's actually. It's an HR issue. And then Abby's other question was, is there a part that you're like a thing that you're dying to do that you haven't done or want to do? I mean, I, speaking about Shakespeare, like, I have such a love for it. And to like never do it again feels like a shame to me.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Yeah. So I would, you know, like I would, I would love to do that for myself to kind of like remind myself what this particular genre of theater and of acting that I fell in love with that I've like really lost touch with. Would you like to do it in the park? I would love to do it in the park. I would love to do it
Starting point is 01:04:07 in the park. Let's claim it. Yeah. Let's claim it in the park. I would love to play P's Bottom in the Park. And then I'll play the New York Lady that. You come in off the street every night they're like, uh-oh. Like it's part of the show. What's this? Shakespeare.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Get this in the Triborough area. Um, okay. But also born. But also born. Like, also kicking, like, kicking ass and actually killing people and actually using guns. Like, I got to do Handmaid's Tale. Oh, God, that's right. Which is wild.
Starting point is 01:04:52 And I did get to kill dudes. That's right. Not to spoil, but, you know. You know. Like, it was great. Child in the front row. Yeah. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Sorry. It's hard. That is, like, coming into a show like that season four or five, it must have been so fun. Dreamy, yeah, yeah, yeah. With Ann Dowd. With Anne Dam, Dow. What a giant she is. What an actor she is.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Oh, my God. And she's so, like, have you met her or worked with her? No, I would love. I saw a movie that she, I mean, she does sit down the, have you seen the movie Mass? No. Okay, we got to. It's new, right? It's so sad.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Okay, okay, I want to watch it. I want to watch it. I want to watch it. So good. It's a cry fest. Okay, I want to watch it. Do yourself a favor?
Starting point is 01:05:41 Watch it on an airplane. I was just going to say that. I was going to watch it on an airplane. Sobbing. She, like, she is the sweetest, warmest, like, love. She's, like, a hand holder.
Starting point is 01:05:53 She, like, tells you she loves you a lot. She's, like, she's sort of like, oh, darling. She's like, darling. Oh, I'm so glad you're here, darling. And then they would be like, they would truly be like, action. And she's like, where are the girl? She would switch.
Starting point is 01:06:12 on a dime and it was incredible to watch. Okay. Now we need to just spend a moment talking about Janet. Okay. We do. We need to talk about Janet. Incredible performance. I mean, nominated for critics' choice and Emmy, yes. And
Starting point is 01:06:34 like, what a part to get. Like, what a fun, weird character to play. Totally. And for people who have never seen the good place, it is kind of like if, you know, your Siri came to life. Yeah, exactly. She's your assistant that is there to fulfill all your needs. Yes.
Starting point is 01:06:53 She's like part like servant, part all-knowing deity. And she goes on this journey in the show. And there's so many jokes. Yeah. And you got to work with Mike Scher. The best. So let's talk for a second about how great it is to work with Mike. It's like you're so spoiled.
Starting point is 01:07:13 and it was like my first show where I was a regular so I was like, you know, Will and I were like there every day. Yes. And we got so spoiled. And the spoiled is meaning because he's the best. That's what I mean by spoiled. Like it was the best experience with the best people. You're treated so well.
Starting point is 01:07:33 The writers are beyond, I'm like beyond 100. I don't know what that means. But I just kind of came up with a phrase. They're beyond 100. Beyond 100. Good. I'm taking your course, and it sounds amazing. It was like, it was perfect. It was perfect. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:48 And he is a genius, and he's the sweetest, and he's, I mean, like, you know, if you could have asked me what my dream was before I got the good place, it's like Parks and Rec, right? It's like, I want to be on that show. I want to be on a show like that with, like, with those people and like with that guy. And it was, and then, and then it really, I got to do the next thing. Like I got to do, it just. What was your audition process like? Did you have to audition a lot? A lot, yeah. I auditioned a lot and I didn't know anything about, anything about the show at all.
Starting point is 01:08:21 And did they ask you to change how you played her at all? Like, was it like, we want you to come back, but we want Janet to be more, you know, like, were they adjusting the character while you were auditioning? As far as I remember, not really, not really. there was something like in the stage direction where it was like nothing throws her. She's like unflappable and not really, I really, for some reason that kind of gave me everything
Starting point is 01:08:48 that I needed for the audition. Like non-judgmental, you know, like just, I don't know, there was something in the stage direction, which is also a credit to him. Like that's so hard to do to just get sides for an audition and understand the character, which later realizing I didn't understand the character. But before the audition,
Starting point is 01:09:05 And it was dummy sides, which means like fake script because they didn't want to give anything away. So it was like I was a hotline operator and somebody would call in because their doll was broken and I would give them advice on how to fix their doll. So nothing about the good place at all. Just sort of they wanted to see someone that was like helpful and kept getting problems thrown at her and she was unflappable and hopeful. Now, this show came out before AI, like, has, like, started to take over. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:44 And it's really interesting. Like, you know, it was when Siri and, like, the idea that your phone talked to you was still kind of cute. Yeah, totally. And now we're all just like, ha, ha, ha, ha, like, but we're all very scared. Yeah. Totally. And do you think it would have changed the way. you would play Janet now? Like, would there be a darkness to Janet now?
Starting point is 01:10:09 That's so interesting. Like, I mean, I could definitely see the writers being inspired by that. Yeah. You know, they're brilliant, and they're beyond 100, as we know. Yeah, they're beyond 100. And, but I'm, like, I'm glad it was when it was. Yeah. Because I guess that would have been interesting to play sort of, like, dark-sighted Janet
Starting point is 01:10:29 or whatever, different than bad Janet. But, like, but I love her the way she is. Would you ever have a robot in your house? Fuck, no. Interesting. I mean, no. I don't have... I like turn everything off.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Okay. But don't you think it's inevitable that every single person in this room in like less than five years will have a robot in their house? I think, yes. But like, I am so afraid of everything. Anything with a camera,
Starting point is 01:10:58 anything that records my voice, anything. I'm like, turn it off. Break it, break it before it comes in the house. Like, I don't want to be trapped. where I go. But you are being trapped. I know. I know. I hear you, but it's like, it's inevitable now. I know. So is it like just lean into it? I'm just wondering. I just ask because I, I, I would, I'm surprising myself. I would never think that I would want a robot. Yeah. But now I don't know. Actually? Like as an older person, they bring you your medicine? Yeah. But when you want like a real
Starting point is 01:11:29 person with like a, like a, like a, a, like a, a breath? And a heart. Yeah. Like a nurse, perhaps. Like, perhaps a nurse. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Like, yeah. I mean, I did just watch like a robot clean my sister's floor and it was pretty rad. It was like, burr. And it would be like, that's right. They didn't remember. Yeah. That's right.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Yeah. That's right. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Will spoke so sweetly about you guys working together. I love him. I love him.
Starting point is 01:11:59 And his question was really tender and sweet, I thought, which was when did you. you know that you were funny? Can you answer that? I mean, okay, I think, can you answer that? I feel like there might have been, I'm just trying to think of like a performance where I got a laugh. Yes. And I remember being like, me, me too. Okay, I remember being like, like this, like when a vampire is born. Totally. You're like, I was like, I was like, okay, that's, that's great. I was thinking like, there's a couple moments where I can remember making my family laugh. Like, if I would, if my mom was in a bad mood, I would like, okay, imagine you're at dinner with your family, you're at the table, and mom's kind of in a bad mood. And at some point, I'd like sneakly take a gigantic gulp of
Starting point is 01:12:43 milk. Actually, not gulp. Just fill my mouth with milk. And then like a minute later, somebody would be talking and I would just smile and like let it all go out on the plate. And my mom would like laugh every time. And it was, and I don't know if that's when I knew it was funny, but I was like, oh, this works. This joke, like, cheers are up. But I do remember being in junior high and doing the talent show with my girlfriends, and the song, No Rain by Blind Melon was out. And they sort of dressed as the band, but I dressed as the B girl. Yeah. And I did like a little tap dance, and then it was kind of like, hey, and then the music was supposed to start, and it didn't. And so I just did like another little tap dance and kind of did that,
Starting point is 01:13:25 and the audience laughed, and the vampire moment happened. where I was like, huh? You were like, I shall be chasing this for the rest of my way. That felt better than anything I've ever felt. Yeah. God, isn't it funny that it was in an accident too? Like you had to improv. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Improv. Yeah. Okay, we spoke about Broadway. We talked about, you know, you were on in Thanksgiving play. How was your time on Broadway? And was it really hard? Okay. My time on Broadway was so,
Starting point is 01:13:57 fun. I need you to do it. No way. Yes, do. Only matinees. Nannes, yes, totally. It's too hard. It's too hard.
Starting point is 01:14:14 No, it's not. Look, somebody's leaving. It's so hard. They're like, I love Broadway and especially the night performances. So hard. It's not. I mean, here's the thing. Every night?
Starting point is 01:14:25 I know. Twice? Not Sunday. Two days? Yeah. But what you would do is a show like I did, which is like a 90-minute comedy. Yeah. Sure.
Starting point is 01:14:34 And people give you the like, wow, you're doing a Broadway show and you're out of the show when like cats is at intermission. And they're still like sweating and dancing and they still have to take their makeup off and you're like already at Sardies. It's really. At Sardies. Okay. After the show. After the show. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Well, that's the thing is you kind of like. I can't eat that late, Darcy. You kind of. I can't eat that late. What you will do is you kind of push your schedule. You like wake up at 10. You know, Amy Miles and I used to stay. of all night and party.
Starting point is 01:15:06 And I literally, if I'm awake at 10.30, I'm like, what's wrong? I know. I'm done. I cannot believe the night I used to have. I mean, I wasn't in like Chicago with you, but when we would do like the marathon, the DCM marathons, we stay up all night. All night. And we drank beer.
Starting point is 01:15:24 We drank beer. Straight out of the camera. I also want to talk to you about in being in yet another, like, five-star weekend huge hit an old-fashioned hit with a bunch of ladies yes
Starting point is 01:15:45 the adorable wonderful Jennifer Garner the best I know she's listening to this right now when I posted that I was doing this she wrote bullshit
Starting point is 01:15:54 what a peach I know I love her a peach and a pro a peach and a plum and a pro a peach and a plum and a pro I love her and congratulations on And then you're going to do another season.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Yes. I'm so excited. It's like, I will say, like, let me just tell you guys. You know, okay, five women, Judy Greer also, West and Harlow, like so many women in the cast. Yes. Two female directors, that's all we had. Like five female producers, female writer. It just happened.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Female cinematographer. Amazing. It just happened to be that. Great. And it absolutely ruled. Yes. It was incredible. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:44 It was like it was, it was problem free. Yes. Of course. Of course it was. Yeah, it was really smooth and amazing. Of course it was. Of course it was. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:56 And people showed up for it and like you shot it in Nantucket. You shot Nantucket. And what month were you there? September, which is apparently the perfect. The perfect month. Because all the tours. are gone. Yes.
Starting point is 01:17:07 You kind of get that chill in the air. The island is still gorgeous. Yeah. It was really beautiful. Did you stay in a house? We stayed in these sort of like furnished apartmenty homes. Okay, got it. It was great.
Starting point is 01:17:16 The white elephant, shout out. Oh my God, we love the white elephant. And then, um, no. No, no, you're not a sponsor, but I do love the white elephant. You do. Yeah. Would love a sponsor. And then love a sponsor.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Yeah. I also love Chase and. Are there things? I love Chase Inc. Business Credit cards. Yes. But that idea of all those women coming together, of like when we always, we say that like,
Starting point is 01:17:49 oh, it was great to have women around, but you're a real lover of women. Women love you. And there is some way of working sometimes that it's like hard to explain, but I think people, when they are around it, feel it. What is the best part of that? Like, like, what, you know, what's the vibe? like what's the way of working? Because I'm always looking to see like how people like to work.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Yeah, yeah. How do you like to work? And how was that special in the way you were working? Okay, there was like a few, this is going to sound so sort of cryptic, but there were like a few heavy things that happened during filming in people's lives. Okay. And the way that these women just sort of like made it work in the most loving, supportive, simple way, where it was not a problem.
Starting point is 01:18:37 It was like, we got it, we've handled it, it's done, take the day, whatever it needed to be. It was just like, that's only like one small thing, but I just remember it was sort of a surprising amount of things happening during during shooting. And it really just, it was like kind of remarkable and beautiful how, how, how, how, just how much they took care of it, how much they took care of the person that needed to be taken care of. Very nice.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Very cool. Yeah. And then also just like Gavin. Just Gavin. Just Gavin. Just freaking Gavin. Well, I mean, I don't want to free people. Because by the way, I took a poll of the audience.
Starting point is 01:19:16 A lot of people have jobs here. Okay. Which I'm shocked. I know. Like most of the people raised their hand. And you know that you spend more time with the people you work with than usually your family and your loved one. Right. When you have a job.
Starting point is 01:19:34 When you have a job. Yeah. You get like a couple. hours at the end of the day. You're like, love you. It's why, like, the people that you work with, how many here, anyone here tonight with people they work with? Cute. Cute. So cute. Co-worker night. They're like, let's get out of here. Let's, they're like at 740 and we're almost done. Okay, Dars, I ask everybody this question. I need to know what is, what is, making you laugh these days.
Starting point is 01:20:09 You're a comedy-officionado. You know so many funny people. You are. You're like, you know, like, you know, sometimes when you do a lot of comedy, that's not the thing you want to escape and watch or do. What is the thing you're liking, watching, reading that you're into? This answer is coming to me so easily because it actually happened yesterday on the plane waiting to take off.
Starting point is 01:20:32 I started watching, I went down a rabbit hole of, let me just think if I can, like, phrase it perfectly. Okay, I also do not like pranks. No. I do not like being scared. No. At all. But there's like this area of, I guess, you know, Instagram, Twitter, I mean, not Twitter, TikTok, YouTube, where it's like people scaring their spouse and the way that they react.
Starting point is 01:20:58 It's not like, it's not like, ah! It's like, do you know what I mean? It is so funny. and I was watching a compilation of people scaring their spouse or roommate or whatever, and it would, it would, the reactions are like, they're so insane. I was crying on the plane. Like, am I, I picturing, am I getting this right? Like, it's like someone holding a laundry basket.
Starting point is 01:21:24 And then somebody, yes, yes, somebody holding a lawn, and then someone comes around the corner and they're like, so funny. that while I was laugh crying on the plane and people were walking on, I was like, should I pretend like I'm actually sad crying so it's less weird? Now, does it have to be someone's spouse for it to work for you? No, it can be, I mean, I'm like, could it be a kid? Yeah, it could be anybody. It could be freaking anybody.
Starting point is 01:21:53 I think it's just a lot of spouses or roommates in their home where you feel safe and comfortable. Also, recently remember my husband, he knows not to scare me. And he did, he was like, he did something where, honestly, I was in the shower and I see through a window and he was like right there. That's not okay with me. As a joke. No, he was like fixing something. But I saw him and I went, not cool. Not cool, Jason.
Starting point is 01:22:21 I don't like to be scared. I really don't like it. I really don't like to be scared. But I really implore you to kind of go down this and it is heaven. I, okay, can I unpack it with you for one more second here? Uh-oh. Is that not an act of violence? Yes, it is.
Starting point is 01:22:40 It is. It's violence. It's abuse. It is abuse. It's a prank, which we both said we don't like. Yeah. So what is? But I, yeah, you don't mind it.
Starting point is 01:22:50 I couldn't, I couldn't not laugh if I try it. Like when something tickles your funny bone. Yes. It's tickling. It's so true. You can't turn it off. Yeah. Yeah, I think I would.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Oh, go, go. Like the funniest noise is, I'm just like, I mean, this is going to be on camera. Okay, Darcy Cardin, before we leave, I'm going to just give a little bit of love back to you, as you've heard tonight,
Starting point is 01:23:23 but Darcy, you are so fun to be around. You make everybody feel very included. You're such a good listener. You're such a good actress, grounded all the way, babe. deeply, deeply funny and very, very real. And I find that to be the same way you show up as a person. It's very, very rare to find somebody as deeply funny as you are,
Starting point is 01:23:50 like Abby was saying, like really, like laugh out loud, funny, and a really, really genuine, authentic, fun, connected person. Thank you for being both. Thank you for your work. Thank you. Thank you for coming tonight. I love you so much. Thank you for changing my whole entire life.
Starting point is 01:24:10 It means so much that you were here. Everybody give it up for Darcy Cardin. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McNullin, Alley-Zanaris,
Starting point is 01:24:37 Bridget Kearlings, Paige Garberini, Bell Roman, and Drew Van Steenbergin. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell and Jenna Weiss Berman Original music by Amy Miles

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