Good Hang with Amy Poehler - Kathryn Hahn

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

Kathryn Hahn is new to being a mother. Amy hangs with her friend and the star of 'Agatha All Along' to talk about meeting each other while working on 'Parks and Rec,' being anointed as "Mother Hahn," and getting joy from her dog, Banjo. Host: Amy Poehler Guests: Patti LuPone and Kathryn Hahn Executive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-Berman For Paper Kite Productions: Executive producer Jenna Weiss-Berman, coordinator Sam Green, supervising producer Joel Lovell For The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson, Chris Wholers, Nick Kosut, and Aleya Zenieris; audio producer Kaya McMullen; video editor Drew van Steenbergen; and booker Kat Spillane Original Music: Amy Miles Get anything delivered on Uber Eats. www.ubereats.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hi, everyone. This is Amy Poehler. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. I'm very, very excited to introduce my next guest, the great Catherine Hahn. What can I say about Catherine? She's a legend. She's so talented, funny, smart. She can do it all. And people love working with her. And I loved working with her. And today we talked about what is her relationship to work? What is her process? how important is it for her to feel connected to the stuff that she does? How is she dealing with this new version of fame and popularity and how is it changing her life? And also how important female friendships are and how you really haven't met everyone you're supposed to meet even at my age of 53. So I'm really excited for you to hear what Catherine and I talked about

today. It was a really good hang. It always is with her. So check it out. But before we start, guess who we have is a special guest today? Talking about Catherine Hahn and hanging in the studio, oh, only Patty Lepone, if her Zoom ever works. This episode is presented by the Toyota Grand Highlander. Whether you're welcoming a new family member starting fresh in a new city or embarking on ambitious adventures, the Toyota Grand Highlander provides versatility for embracing life's grand challenges. Like how you can effortlessly tuck away the fold flat rear seats for up to 97.5 cubic feet of cargo space. Perfect if your cargo is baby elephant sized. From daily

routines to life-changing adventures, the Toyota Grand Highlander is up for every grand challenge. Learn more at Toyota.com slash grand highlander. Toyota, let's go places. Patty, are you there? Have you joined us? She's not. She's not there. She's still not there. Okay, just to give you guys an update. Patty just checked in and said, got it. I'll have to be on my phone, okay? Putting on slap now. I don't know what that means. I'm going to say, okay. Ha, ha, ha. Okay. Thanks so much. Okay. This is fun. know what putting on slap means. It either means she's slapping on makeup or that's some kind of Broadway term. There you are. Wait, is that a term putting slap on? Yeah, slap is a, an expression

for makeup, yeah, putting slap on. Oh, I love me, Patty. I love you too, darling. Let me just put a little more slap on. So what are you doing these days? Singing. Yeah. Do you have a show tonight? No, I have a show on Monday, but what I have tonight is an opera. You're attending it, or you're singing in it? No, I'm attending it. My friend is taking me. Let me just get the eye shadow on, darling. Who can talk when you're, you know, putting eye shadow on? But I'll try. My friend that wrote it is here, because it just premiered, and we're going to the senior citizen special. He's calling it dinner at 5.30. The opera starts at 7.7. The opera starts at 7. and it's three hours long.

And so we're going to go and have dinner at the Met, which is very exciting. It's very, you know, you feel like you're in, I don't know, another dimension when you go into the Metropolitan Opera House. But it's pretty incredible just to watch the people that show up and how they're dressed and how they act. Girl, I'm ready for you.

Oh, you look fantastic. I look hideous, but thank you. But let's talk about Catherine. Okay, let's talk about Catherine. So today's episode, we're talking to Catherine. We're doing this fun thing where we're kind of talking behind people's backs before they come in, just to kind of hear more perspective about them and what you think I should ask her or, you know, what you'd be interested in hearing her talk about.

And tell me how, like, how you met and your relationship with her. Well, we met on Agatha, um, at the table. table reads, basically. Catherine, because she was the leading lady, was incredibly generous and incredibly open and incredibly inclusive and embraced, I think, the responsibility of a leading lady. And that's, you know, that comes without fear, basically. And she was fearless and generous. And one of my favorite things about her is she snorts when she laughs.

So you know she's having a good time. She's a big laugher. She's a big laugh. But when you get the snort, something was really funny. And that's, you know, one of her best qualities. Her snort. She is a real mix of a very poised and serious, dramatic actor and deeply goofy. Yeah.

Very, very funny. and doesn't take it seriously, which is great, you know what I mean? I'm going to ask her about this, but I want to ask you, too. I mean, the response has been huge for Agatha. It's everywhere. It's viral TikToks. It's people waiting for you at the airport. Like the way you get this giant huge new group of people who know you and know your work,

what has that been like? I don't have the kind of response that Catherine has gotten. I mean, in, I know. that it's so weird because because I do so many different things, people, some people know that I sing and do Broadway musicals and some people know me from Stevens Universe and some people know me from Life Goes On and some people know me from Agatha, for Agatha. And the ones, I've been getting more fan mail about Agatha. And which is great because who would think that I would end up in the Marvel universe? Knowing nothing about it. And she,

choose to remain that way, knowing nothing about it. Any ideas of what I could ask Catherine today? Like, any questions? I don't know if she's ever thought about directing. And would she cast me? I'm just curious to know whether she would want to direct. And, of course, I need to get hired. And I think, you know, she would be a riot behind the camera.

I think, you know, they'd have to take take after take if it was funny and she snorted. I think she'd be a great director. I think she would be a great director. Agree. All right. Love you, Patty. Thank you so much. My pleasure. Talk to you soon. Bye. Okay, bye. Okay, bye. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. Summer is almost here, and you could now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered with Uber Eats. What do I mean by almost? Well, you can't get a summer blockbuster delivered, but you can get a block of cheese. A cabana? That's a no. A banana? That's a yes. A day of sunshine? No.

A box of fine wines, yes. Uber Eats can definitely get you that. I'm very excited to use Uber Eats this summer. I'm going to order grapes and then I'm going to put them in the freezer and then I'm going to have frozen grapes and I'm going to feel very classy and very refreshed. Get almost, almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. For alcohol, you must be legal drinking age. Please enjoy responsibly. Product availability varies by region. See app for details. Everyone, this is Catherine.

Hi, everyone. Thank you for having me. Catherine, I love you so much. Thank you for being on Good Hang. I am so happy to be here. I love you. You know, I've only done a few episodes so far. This is very new.

And I got a note recently from the great Bill Simmons, who is kind of like, I guess my boss. But he is so good at podcasting and has created an empire and has allowed. me to come and do it. And he said lose the ringer. And he said lose the laptop. Why? Oh, just so it's like more conversational? I guess. Before I do, I just want to audition it one more time. How do you feel about it? Listen, I think that that's fine for him if he doesn't need one. But if you need one, screw it. This is your podcast. Well, I want to say to you and Bill that I like to look things up on here. It does take me a long time. You're fact-checking as it's going on.

I think that's good. Well, I kind of was joking that I had it to just make it seem like I was fact-checking. Have you ever used to it? Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. If it's just there for evidence, maybe you're telling us. While I'm talking to you, I just have to catch up on the pit. Wait, is that the medical procedure?

Okay, great. With a guy who's already been on a medical procedural. Okay, great. It's supposed to be great. It's so good. Okay, I got to get into it. And that's what I want to talk about. Okay, good.

I'm just kidding. Okay. I want to talk about paradise. Dr. Carter, aka Noah Wiley, is now in a new show, which is nothing like ER, but I'm a huge ER fan. But the pit is so good. So because Bill told me to get rid of the laptop, I'm going to put it at half mass. Oh, good.

And then if I need it, I do feel like I want to watch. I want to watch something with you today. Yes, keep it there. Okay. Yeah. Half-mast. Okay. Don't close it.

But I, but Bill, I hear you. Yeah. I appreciate the, because it, look, I'm, I'm, love, and I have to say, I'm still trying to figure out the process of this. So I so appreciate you coming in mid-process. I'm so happy. I love mid-process. You do. I do.

I do, because it's still figuring itself out. So I like it. I don't like it. I don't like, it's better, it's more interesting than a well-oiled machine. Ooh. Yeah. Tell me more about that because you're so, you do you, I love that about you is you love the, the messy middle of stuff.

I do because it's like a, there is like a little on your toes feeling of, of, of growth that's happening while you're in it. And that always feels like super chargey to me. If it's like, I don't know, it's more like sometimes it's, good and like you know that you're going to hit this, this and this. But I love conversations and I think, and I know you do too that are like a little not so prescribed at the beginning. You're so good at them.

You're, you're really, really good at, um, hanging in. Uh, yeah. It's what makes you such a good person and friend, but and also such a good actor is you, you can like tolerate the in between, which few, I don't know if I can, I'm learning. I'm learning. Yes. It is uncomfortable sometimes, depending on what it really is,

but just to sit in it and let it, like, I'm not talking about a podcast, but like life or like schmacting. Yeah. It's definitely like that kind of like uncomfortableness, I think is like the time that you're going to be surprised. Did you know that,

let me see if you can guess how many times, how many episodes of parks you did. Do you, would you know to guess? I would say, between seven and 13. 10. 10.

Okay. Between seven and 13. That's my, it's kind of right between. That's amazing. But it was such a huge impact on my life. Like, it's still the thing I get most recognized for.

Really? Yes. And I just remember, well, first of all, you were the most incredible number one on a call sheet because you had dance parties

at lunch every day. And anybody that, that walked on that, like, set just was filled with such confidence and such joy, which is I had the greatest time on that show. I have such, I don't have the greatest memory. That's where we kind of fell in love. But that is really, Catherine, where we, I think, actually met. My first kind of, like, real memory is in the trailer of Parks and Rec.

And we used to, Catherine is talking about dance parties. And we used to do a thing where just, like, after lunch, we would play three songs. best. The great Autumn Butler, our makeup artist, had great taste in music, and we would just kind of dance around for two or three songs. Yeah, the best. I think for me, a way to honestly just keep my energy up. Yeah. But it became a way to meet people in the trailer. And I remember two things I loved about you right away. How much you love to laugh, people that know you know that. I do. You love to laugh. If someone's going to break in a scene, it's this professional over here. You know. Do you think you break?

I have to be really serious in my mind. Like if I have, because if it starts to happen, it is tears. Yeah. And mucus. But you, I have seen you in bloopers and you're hanging in. Yeah, I do hang in. You hang in. I do.

Yeah. You, in fact, go in harder, I think. When people are about. I think I have to. I know it's a survival technique. I just have to dig in a little bit. I do. I go harder.

I feel like every time I've done a scene with you, you are so good at it. improvising. In fact, like a lot of your character on Parks and Rec, Jen Barkley's moments were improvised. Were they really? Well, one of the favorites, one of, one of, one of, TikTok and memes and gifts and is poncho. Yeah, Pancho was. So let's talk about what happened. For people that have never seen that, what, what is it? What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, tell us what that scene was. Well, I went to Ben and Leslie's house. Um, I'm speaking as Jen Barkley, my character. I'm first person. Well, for people that aren't watching,

she just transformed. just transformed. Her eyes turned dark and she's in a completely different person. A lot more hairspray. I went to their house. They have children. I am not into children at all. I wore a plastic poncho so that I wouldn't get any sticky fingers or crap all over me. And at some point, the kids rush by with paint, nail me with the paint. And at some take, just to make you guys laugh, I don't even have any idea it was going to be any. I just swung my everything. arms open. I went, Pancho. Pancho. And that it really has to be kind of like a thing. It's like Batman's Cap. I mean, oh, that was the best. Like I just wanting to make you guys laugh and just having so the energy is so loose. So I like, it's when you say that I'm emphasizing, again, I can do it if I know

who I am and like the given circumstances and like that I feel like, I feel like, I feel really free in that department. But just. Well, you know how like we, we were on set of lot and I would watch you work and I would say the same thing about Adam and I wonder too if it's because of your both of your training but I would watch the way you two worked and you would have a moment where we you'd stay really really loose and but just right before the scene and I can think of a couple scenes the great scene where Jen Barkley is telling Leslie no basically you know you have to start oh you have to start thinking bigger which is a huge moment in the show. I love the writing in that scene. Oh my God, that scene. Mike Scher and the writer's

like, I just love how they slowly took care of Leslie and they sent people in to give her these messages. And Jen Barkley is just this like Gen X. Yes. Ballbuster. Yes. Who kind of sees something that Leslie doesn't. Anyway, in that moment, when you're giving that speech, I remember very clearly right before the scene, you just took a moment. And I think we joked about it later because I was like, it was like watching, it was watching a real actor. Oh, God. Just staying one more second on Parks because I do think that it was such a formative time in my life, obviously, for many reasons. And one of them was meeting you is what I always use that us as an example of is that you never know who you have yet.

to meet. Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, when you're in your 40s, there's this feeling that you've pretty much, you have your old friends, your high school friends, you have maybe a partner and their friends. You have your kid, mom, friends. Yeah. College.

Yeah. You have like this, all these different groups of friends. And you think, I think I've met everybody that's going to be my close friends. I have, I know, because sometimes those friends become just family. You know what I mean? And as everybody grows and changes and, like, people. they're so in my life always always always but we are very different people I don't know you know and you're right there are people like I think even I've been in a lot a lot of projects

where you get like intimate really fast and everybody says goodbye but then there are certain people where you I didn't anticipate this like I did that was the one of the pleasures for me too is like I didn't anticipate that you would want to continue to be my friend after we did it. And then the fact that it's gotten like deeper and deeper. I'm like, now I don't know how I'd do with it. I mean, like, I am so grateful for you in my life. We've like.

We've been in the trenches. We've been in the trenches. We've been in the trenches. We have, like, we've been through a lot of tough times together. We've been very honest with each other. Yeah. We've like, I think we've really like taken great pains to see each other. Yeah.

Yeah. Like we're making a priority. And I mean, I know how I feel about how important that is for me, but what, how are, how are female friendships important to you? What do they do for you? I think that the real female friends that I have, the deep ones are fewer than I thought I would have. Like the ones that are really, you know, have your back through anything. And there's a difference like these, it's so important to have that aren't family to grow old with in a way that it's, like you said, feels very honest and also hilarious,

but also doesn't feel like we have to keep up anything together, like keep up any sort of like front. It just feels like, and also very affirming, like to walk into these next chapters together, it just feels like it's not as terrifying. Yes. The Witches Road. The Witches Road.

The Coven? Yes. Coven on Coven. Yes. Yes. That's why, I mean, that is why when I watch that show, when I watched Agatha all along, that was so moving. You just to get, basically, you must hold hands with someone to go into the next step. And what's honest, our female friendships and relationships are going to, you know, with the exception to maybe our sibling relationships will probably last the longest.

I know. They will. And I think with my dear. dearest women friends of which there are very few that that is such a source of comfort just to be heard by another woman yes without judgment without like anything but just um love i know i feel you speaking of other women um yeah so we do this thing uh where we ask people before we have a guest to um chat about the guests so like i kind of like want it i want to like love it And we got Patty Lepone.

No, you did. Yes. Oh, my God. I was so excited. The wolf. Patty, the wolf. The wolf. La Pone.

Oh, of course. The wolf, of course. Oh, my God. This is going to be the best. Well, first of all. What if it was like, eh, ah. Well, she can't sing. But.

Not talented. No, she's so great. Isn't she? I know. Talk about, you know, a new friend that I want to, I mean, I feel like I have to stop telling her. I have to stop asking her if we're friends. I just have to start believing that we are. But anyway.

Oh, doll. Call everyone doll. You're right to have someone that is like in a different stage of our lives that you can, that is so real. Very. Very important. I don't know about you, but I get very comfortable around older women who are very bossy. Yeah. Because I get very relaxed.

Yeah. We're in good hands. We're in good hands. And the few times that I've hung out with Patty, she's like, we're going for a walk. And she tells me what to buy. And it's just... Okay. So tell me about how you...

Was Agatha the first time you met her? Oh, yeah. Okay. And I remember when they said it was Patty Lippon, I was like, no. And then I met her at the first table read, and she just came in with so many questions, which, of course, like, she knew nothing about Marvel. I barely know anything about Marvel. So she was like, okay. And it was just all of these very detailed questions.

But then she just forgot. And it didn't matter. She'll still be like, I don't know anything about Marvel. She did. She told us that. She said, well, I don't know anything about it, which I. love, I mean, and also, and she said you guys met at the table, read, and Agatha was a really big circus to lead. Oh, yes. And you had to do a lot of big stuff on there. A lot of swinging.

Oh, my gosh, so much, you know, if one is to believe that acting is a little embarrassing. Oh, right. You had to do so much stuff. Incredible, birthing scenes and crazy stuff and holding hands. and singing. Yes, so much incredible stuff. But like walking in the razor's edge because we knew if it went one way or the other, it could be like, oh, wow. And America voted, and it worked.

America voted for TikTok voted. TikTok is my government. Okay, I know. And I got to get on TikTok. It's so, I think it's wrapping up. Oh, I know. It's by perfect timing, as usual. Still my AOL.

That's like me in podcasts. I'm like, let me get in there. And everyone's like, now? And I'm like, yep. Right before the door closes. But just for a second, what was it like to be on such a big show, having to make really big choices with all these incredibly big personalities and people? It was just, it must have been something.

We were all, there was no trailers to go back to, really, because we were kind of far away always. So we would set up like a little coven of our chairs in a circle. So we're like all of our crew chairs would be in a circle. And you could just hear us cackling like the whole, like, I mean, we just laughed. And Patty had a boombox. and she would get up and dance or start singing and we would all be like,

like it's coming out of her mouth right now. So Patty wanted me to ask you two questions. Well, first she said she loves your snort and we already got it. We already got it once. I thought like, oh, it's not as cute anymore. But I still comes out. I mean, you're talking to a person that laughs like a, I've been described as a raven, when a raven,

when someone runs over a raven's foot. That's how somebody described my laugh one time. So, I mean, I don't know what you're talking about. It's the greatest laugh, but ever. It's just, I have a very witchy laugh too. You have a very witchy laugh and a very, you do. And it's a cackle and a very devious laugh sometimes. It is.

It is. And you have a little cat that ate the mouth. I just love it so much because it hits like a little devious. And then huge cackles. And you have a great laugh too. Like you laugh with your whole body. I do. I do.

There she goes. But I really do. I do. I love a good laugh. God, me too. Have you always been that way? Was that where did? Like,

have you always been that kind of person that loved a good laugh? In high school, it started for sure. And then I was like, you know, I went to an all girls Catholic school. So we had like a, I mean, that group was constantly making fun of the nuns. And so I was just like crying all the time. Just crying all the time. Just like, uh, just. Just floating maxi pads in like the same,

in like Mary's pond. Like there's like a statue of Mary and we just like, and the nuns would be like, okay, so there are maxi pads floating in the week. It was like always shit like that. Just like fun church giggle stuff. Stupid.

Like you'd open over a locker and there'd be like a huge dick that would pop out on a spring. This proves my theory that Catholic school girls were, A, so bad. They were so bad. But because everything was, you know, uniforms and there was, like, church every week. And it all felt like, I don't know if I believe in any of this. Yeah.

And then B, they were just like really repressed. Yeah, ready to go. Oh, I was like, let's go, let's go. And there were, I was like, any takers, any takers? And there was not takers. Right. I was like, hey. So horny.

And I was like, okay. I was like, is it my overplugged eyebrows? What's happening? Isn't my Catholic school uniform that my mom thought I was going to gain maybe or like seven dress sizes? But I was literally like kids would go down and see my skirt and just pull it off me. Like in school. So we had to wear boxers. Oh, yeah.

Boxers were a big deal. Wait, it was just an all-girls school? Yeah. And they were pantsing you? Pantsing me. No, but in skirting you. In, I did go to co-ed Catholic elementary school and we would. have something called Friday flip-up day.

So we knew to wear boxers because on Friday, all the guys ran around up flipped up your skirt. Oh, my God. Yes. And Thursday, throw-up day, Wednesday, wedding day. I don't know what Tuesday or Monday was. And they would just flip up your skirt. And back then we were like, the price of being a girl. It is.

We were like, oh, we better get prepared. We were like, maybe someone will flip up my skirt today. So fucked up. So fucked up. So fucked up. And the teachers were like, if you guys. They're doing the flip-up. Keep it outside of class.

I don't want to know about it. And then I remember some guy, some kid, I was in sixth grade called me gorilla legs because I haven't shaved. I hadn't shaved my legs yet. And I was like horrified by that. So I went home and I tried to shave and it was like a cheese grater. It was like I could see a curl of my skin before it started bleeding. And I was like, oh, I still have scars. Oh, no.

I didn't know how to do it. I went rogue with my dad's shaver in the tub. Oh, no. that stupid boy. It was that stupid boy. I know. I had a stupid boy tell me one time that I looked like a frog, that my face looked like a frog, and I just, I still think about it.

I mean, I still remember it. I just remember being like, well, I guess I'll live the life of a frog, man. Like you just immediately are like, well, if one boy thinks it, then it shall be so. Then it shall be so. Yeah. I guess, well, I'll be, they'll just flip up my skirt and wear my boxers and shave my legs in the bathtub and have a face like a frog. I mean, it's horrible. It's horrible. The shit I got for my nose my whole life. Really? For your size of your nose? Yes. And that I had such a,

I'm such a thing about it that I was like, when I'm 18, I'm getting a nose job. And now I'm so glad that I did it. No. Yeah. And now I love my nose. I just think people should know that you have never gotten any plastic surgery. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But I just think. But I think also we, I feel that way with you like we're in a treacherous time this is a treacherous moment where you're like have to leave behind all that currency that I really didn't listen I wasn't like

that wasn't my currency in this business was never like same which I think is helpful going forward because it's not but yeah I'm like but now you're now you've gotten into mother phase your mother Han now I'm mother Han because honestly this is my Instagram thing that I haven't used

sit in the first fight. I kind of petered out on the dumbest one. I just haven't done it again. I put it on my computer. And yeah, I haven't posted it. Literally it's the dumbest last one. I don't know what it is, but it was just petered out. And we tried, my daughter tried to find a name for me or like whatever handle. Is that what it's called? Yeah, I think so. And we couldn't find anything with my name. And then we saw Mother Han lowercase. And I was like, oh, that's funny. and she was like, you know the other connotations, though. And I was like, yeah, fine, I'll be cute. But then it has really a very, it does have a very specific following, which I love.

That's what I'm saying is there's this amazing moment that's happening for you in general where, you know, people that have loved your work now for 20 years are seeing you get this kind of next level of recognition and, you know, all that comes with like the Marvel machine. Yes. And there is this also celebration at the same time, led primarily by gay men, but not just gay men. And young gay women. Young gay women who love the lesbian kiss that you had on Agatha with her beautiful Aubrey Plaza. Yes. Like that are deciding to just, like, be like, mother. And that feels like you're being anointed.

Which I'm like, it's Anne Bancroft and the graduate. Like that's what it feels like there's like a cougary vibe. Instead, but I also think that there's kind of like a Because I don't, I mean, that's not who I am But I guess it also means like, I don't know What do you think it means? I think it's like a way, yes, I think it's like a way To compliment someone's

Wisdom and Fortitude Without making them while still making them feel sexy. Yeah. There's something that feels sexy about it because it's very dumb. It's very like, she will crush you. Like it's a little bit of like mother.

Right. Maybe you should have an Instagram should have been you should just try to spell it out. But also there's a reverence to it, like respect. There's like a loving respect. Again, someone else could probably break down the etymology and what it really means. And we all know where it comes back, goes back to like the houses and, you know,

like all the queer culture back. Yes. who are creating their own community and family. I love it. I know. It moves me so much. Me too. And it's just there's something that's happening right now I'm noticing in real time where

women our age and our 50s in our business used to kind of just be on the way out. For the most part, there were a few. But a lot of them were not really regarded by young people as being vital. Yes. Producers of things. Yeah. And that is changing. It's kind of, it is changing.

And I love, I hated Milf. I hated Milf. Me too. Why do we hate it? Well, because it's a porn term, probably by a lot of young men that have a fetish for fucking older women. Yeah, I never. Mothers. Yeah.

And also I didn't like it because it was like, oh, you'll still fuck them? Yes. Let me check. Yeah. They don't want to fuck in. I just checked. Gut check. Gut check.

But check. But check and gut check. But check. It's not happening for you, too. And it's like, oh, great. I know. It was like, well, I had a couple milfs. And it's like, oh, God.

Maybe we don't like it too because it sounds like milk. Yeah, maybe because, yeah, but it just feels like it's from the dude's point of view in like a gross porny way. Yeah, mother feels a little bit more. You respect it. And it feels more gay adjacent, queer adjacent. So it feels a little. Yeah. Which I love.

so much. I love it so much. I love the very young queer women that are, um, felt really like loved Agatha all along. Like that was such a huge part of our audience that was very, very moving. I mean, you were the first gay Marvel kiss, right? Or queer Marvel kiss. I don't know. I think so. I have a piece of paper. Let me see. Yep. It's not on the, yeah. Oh. Yes. Yeah. The first of a lesbian kiss. According to this paper. That just flew in. Hold on.

It was just floated down. From the sky. It's coming from the sky. Here we go. But yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah, that's cool.

Yeah, it's cool. That's cool. And with plaza. So it just could not be cooler. I know. I know. Our beautiful baby plaza. What's going,

and I'm aware of the, as a therapist, I'm aware of the time. It's 1148. I am so fine with going. Okay. Just letting you know, because I'm on it.

respect. I never want this to. And you have a long press day. And so I know you have to do a lot of talking. But, and you have to eat wings. You have to eat hot wings. I'm so sorry I don't have wings. I know I should be prepping before my diarrhea kicks in, even thinking about it. I haven't asked to do that wings thing. You have it and you're like, no. I absolutely not. I can say hate milk. So I don't know how I'm going to do it. This is going to be a disaster for you. No, it's going to be. Someone said peanut butter on toast beforehand. Line your stomach. The things we go through for press. for no reason. What do we have to do?

We have to line our stomach? How did this happen? How are we now doing eating spicy things? And spicier and spicier while being asked. Really interesting. Really interesting questions. Yes, really great questions. But the way in which we're like, I guess for this show, I got to have diarrhea for four days.

For four days, ring of fire. But I also, there's something about it that I was like, yes, because it just felt so, so unique that it's just, I don't know, it's going to be hilarious. This is a really good example of what we were talking about earlier. Like, you're like, this is going to be fun. I'm into it. You're into the lack of control. Yeah. And, man.

Like I'm like, am I going to fom it? Am I going to? I don't know. We actually do, that is actually Friday. But I have a lot, but other stuff. But I am, so I've a couple days to prep my stomach. It's like a colonoscopy. It is.

But like in reverse, because I think I got to line it as thick as possible. So there is no way. Like my throat down to my colon has to just be lined. With bread. Yogurt, peanut butter, and just bread shoved in there. Show business, baby. Show business. That's why we got into show business to do stuff like that,

to just eat weird hot stuff. on camera for free for free but we were talking a little bit about the like way in which you're getting received like when you're out in public that's a little overwhelming sometimes because of the fandom of it all

like you're in a machine now that's bigger than maybe some other ones and we were kind of talking about that feeling of like having to take on other people's energy and how do you balance the introversion and extroversion part of what we do? Well We need to excuse her

Yeah Yeah Yeah Oh god Yeah That's a good answer You know we were talking about hot ones for a while Thank you got all

Yeah I need a Pepsi and a C Um, okay, fans. No. You know, I mean, Marvel is a totally different machine. And I am so rarely recognized in my life. Like, you know, I just walk out like, I don't think about it. So I'm like, you know, I had one meal with Carrie Kinney Silver, who I love so much.

And she, someone came up to our table and was like, sorry, I have to tell you, I love you. And I think it's so hilarious. You go out of the house looking like this. And I was like, oh, thank you. My thing is when people go, can I tell you who you look like? And I'm always like, please don't. No, it is never going to be great. It's never going to be great.

Unless it's scarjo or something. Like, it's never. And it's also so, it's always someone who is at a hard 30 years older than who I am, which is fine, fine. But, okay. let's talk about Philly Justice before we talk about the studio and then we'll be done. Actually, one of the most, the thing I'm almost the most proud of. Okay, can you explain to people what we're talking about when we say Philly Justice?

There was a bunch of the Parks and Rec actors. It was Paul, Rudd, you, Rashida, Adam. And is that it? Yeah, me, we, the original picture that Philly Justice was born out of was me, you, Rashida, Adam, and Rudd. And it was, we had like businessy outfits on. I think we were going to court or something or like, so all of us had like very businessy.

And I don't know whose idea was it, but we took a, it was. Whose idea was it? But we were all in like kind of staggered stairs and what looked like the front of like a very, you know, a courthouse. We pretended we were on a fake TV show in the 90s called Philly Justice or the early 2000s. Yes. crossed our arms. Yes. Then that became a text chain

where we started pretending that we were just pretending we had been texting each other. Like as the actors from it is the pilot going to be picked up? Like we were going to do. Like we were all very excited. It was like a David Kelly-esque show.

So there was like some cachet. It wasn't like a shitty show. Right. Catherine is playing like a lawyer, question mark. Question mark. We don't know. And who has a very tempestuous. relationship with Angie Martinez,

played by Rashida Jones. Yes. And... Why not sure? A lot of past. A lot... I mean, I think you guys are lovers. Amy, please excuse her.

She knows not what she's doing. Like Robert Durst when he's guilty. Sorry. Every time I bring up being your lesbian tendencies, you start burping and we're like, Okay. But, I mean, I remember thinking, I can't believe how lucky I am that I'm working with people who want to also do this dumb thing. Yes. Like, fun, dumb things to me are a love language that's a way, like, it proves like safety, I guess, that if you're relaxed enough to do fun dumb things and you're in the right place.

Yeah. And the older and older I get. I feel like, just want that. Yeah, like, nothing is that important. Yeah, right. Great transition into your new show. And the studio. But it is, the studio is fun. It is fun.

And you mentioned Catherine O'Hara. Talk to us about the show and the cast. I mean, Catherine O'Hara, another goddess that I couldn't believe. We've only have a couple scenes in it, but I have gotten to know her, like, through the press thing. And she is, like, we were saying, like, what I want to, like, that's how I want to grow up. Yeah. Even though she's, you know, basically my aunt. but she is, I mean, on camera and not off camera, like just such a huge, a good egg.

And it's Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg, Seth stars in it. And they both wrote all the episodes and directed all the episodes with like one shot. They're all like oneers. There's some invisible scenes. Wow. I know. But it's really incredible because we rehearsed each scene like a play. Like we had to rehearse it a gazillion times with the camera.

And then know when the camera's going to be on. even know like when to get out of the way for the camera one still like try to keep eye contact it was a it was like a the challenges were so fun and juicy and and also you knew that if you fucked up one line in it you'd have to go back to the beginning so like the tension of everybody really added to the tension of this fictional studio continental studios that seth rogan just became the head of and trying to save it. Like it can't keep it from the streamers and also the like balance between art and money like block.

But he he's a lover of film that just wants to make like, you know, Fox Catcher all the time. And they're like you can't make it all the time. You have to make a Kool-Aid movie, you know. So it's like the tension between. And it's, Ike Berenholz is in it who's freaking hilarious. He's so good.

The best. Chase, sweet wonders, peach, hilarious. And Brian Cranston has a recurring as the, um, the money guy on top of the studio. Mm-hmm. And, uh, who do you play? I play, um, the market, the head of marketing. Your look is incredible. It is incredible.

And I feel like there's a lot of humans in Hollywood that just dress label to label. So she's just totally decked out. Got a girl. sacks who will bring the shit to the office and she tries it on at lunch has a tab running running tab at sacks nice and also probably um you know what is it delay that dover street market a lot of like street brands she has big nails i remember that right long long nails yeah and no personal life so it's all feeling like a deep empty hole yes that she gets um that she just lives at her job.

And is it a weekly thing or can we see? It's weekly. Okay, great. I have to say overall, I'm enjoying a more weekly thing because I feel like we binged too hard. I do too. Yeah, it gives me a headache and it also makes me feel like a little bit sick. The binging is too much.

It's too much. It's too much. And you lose the, yeah. Swallowed at that time. I was like three. I can't do three. Your podcast. Yes.

What is wrong with me? I just swallowed. It's the rule of three. You have to do one more verb for comedy. Maybe that was the third and it was just, I swallowed it. And now it's just a hot, acidy mess. There are people I know that listen to these things and they have a hard time, like with whatever it's called. What's the word when you don't like mouth sounds?

Oh. Misophonia. Misfonia. Where they don't like the milky mouth sounds of people, which I understand. I understand it. I understand it. The worst is when you're talking to someone and there's little white cream on the creases of their mouth. And then when they talk, you can hear like, and you just want to be like, slide them a glass of water.

And I feel like this is the end of our interview because where are we back? We're back to water. We're back to water. How badly do you have to pee? And not at all. I've been peeing this all the time. Oh, right. Next time I'm going to wear just, I don't even know how it works.

If there's an adult diver or just a bucket. No, you just pee. The thing, people don't tell you about podcasting, which I learned when I first started. Yeah. You pee anytime. You just pee in your seat. All of the men you're watching, they're constantly peeing. It's true.

It's underneath their table. Gross. There's a stadium, buddy. Yeah. Or have you ever seen the women's version of that? I have it. Oh. When did you get it?

My friend gave it to me. It's like a funnel because we could be like, so. It isn't like a straight shot. Okay. Keep it in my car. Okay. I thought you're like, keep it in my pants.

I keep it in my bed. No, it's a, it's a funnel that you, I suggest getting it. You're supposed to use it for camping, but I have it for my car. car because sometimes you're in traffic and it's and it's a oh no like what and i can you get that going while you're driving a car well i have never i've never i've never actually used it oh oh okay but this knowing it's there i know that you have a backup maybe also sometimes if there's a questionable gas station restroom i would rather cop a squat that i would rather pull over and pee i've done that before yeah i've done that definitely in places that um match like the national parks

where you like open the small one. It's just a hole. Yeah. I just think. I just pulled over and opened up my car door and just peed. I think we all have. I mean, what are you going to do? What are you going to do?

No, no one wants a UTI. And you can't be like a man and pee in a bottle like a animal. Oh my God. Have you ever been? There's some streets in New York City. I know this is getting long, but there's some streets in New York. They're like the arteries for getting off the bridges or whatever. that if you walk down, it's like filled Coke bottles with urine.

Men are so fucking disgusting. But I have to tell you, okay, last thing. I'm so sorry. Sometimes I'm like, women, lift up the freaking seat. A hundred percent. I'm like, I've sat so many times on other women's urine. Women, you cannot pee on a seat to protect your own germs. Like, you can't not sit on a toilet seat so that I have to sit in your pee.

Yes. Lift it up. It's disgusting. Also, if you're really that weird about it, put toilet paper on the seat. They have things for you. They have things. Don't squat on the seat, pee on it, and then leave. And then leave.

You know what? Women are disgusting too. Or wipe it off with a, and you're like, I know you just tried to wipe it off, but it's still there, bitch. You're talking to a gal who left signs in a, in a, when, I think it must have been when I was at S&L. I was like, who is peeing on this seat? Oh, yes. I was like, hey, news flash. This is a disaster for those that follow.

This is a restroom for a lot of women. Yeah. Well, last thing, growing up in Cleveland, we had faulty, what's it called? You know, when you flush a toilet. Oh, plumbing. Plumbing. Oh, age. But my dad had a sign above the toilet that said, poop flush, white flush.

Because if you put the poop and the white, And the toilet paper in there would overflow immediately. Poop flush, white flush. I'm going to leave you with that. Anywho. But I think these are important things to say. They are. They are.

We don't talk about it, but these are. But also, just women, lastly, lift up the seat. Just to clarify. You don't have to lift. Yeah, don't just sit on the seat. Sit on it. Or if you don't feel like sitting on it, lift it. Sit on the seats.

Sit on the seat. What? Like, where are we? That's why they, just where are we? you're so lucky to have a seat there's a lot of people that just have to squat If someone ran for like Congress and their whole thing was sit on the seat

They'd win They'd win They would win Sit on the seat I'm gonna start making bumper stickers Okay I'm asking a bunch of people Because you love to laugh

You have a great laugh I'm asking a bunch of people What are they doing right now To make themselves laugh Like what is the thing you're watching Or doing or listening to What cracks you up um my dog really cracks me up he's such a little weanus everything his name is banjo and he's such an idiot

he has he's such a mutt and he has his tail that's always so high so he's got a really aggressive asshole and everything he does is so stupid that he makes me laugh so hard he's a dingo like everything he does what is he like he'll walk he'll get outside and he'll like do lax like back and forth as fast he can't from one side of the lawn to the other like he won't stop and he'll just have he has this corn cob that he can chew as a sound in it and he'll just look at you and be like like and you hear the the horn going on for so long and so his anxiety is funny he has had a con on for a third of his life because he constantly is eating something or he'll look at you like there's this blood gushing out of his back leg and we're like banjo he'll love

He licked the skin off of his own little paw because he just was stressed out. And then he keeps licking it. So he's had to, yeah. So who would play banjo in a movie if he was a human? Oh. It would be. It would be he's got a lot of white male privilege. He is so blonde.

It's not Patrick Schwarzenegger because he's really great. I mean, honestly, it's a young Leo is really what it is. It's a young Leo. It's like a, yes. Maybe it's the kid from, um, baby girl what's his name the yes right his uh i don't know his name fuck we'll never know we have a laptop we can't figure it out harris dickinson harris dickinson maybe it's a harris dickinson yeah with a little more like i'll do whatever you say but i can't i forgot it already

like it's kind of like that his day focuses at five o'clock that's the only thing he holds on to is dinner at five everything else is chaos and all of a sudden at four 45 he's like I love him so much. Good news. We just heard that Austin Butler is excited to read for banjo. Oh, okay. So, okay. Maybe.

I'll put him out. I'm curious to see his tape. I'd love to see him read. I would love to see him read. I'd love to see him read. Can't wait to get the tape. Okay. I love you.

I love you so much. Okay. Thank you to Catherine Hahn, our great, hilarious friend. Man, that was so fun. She's so funny. And she was reminding us. about dance parties, which we used to have on the set of Parks and Rec. And I want to remind you, you can always have your own.

All you need is three songs, one other person, and the want and need to have fun. So do it now. Let's start with Brass in Pocket by the Pretenders, take it slow, warm up and stretch, then go to Red Wine Supernova, Chapel Rowan, sing all the lyrics really loudly and point to each other. And then finish by going to the club with a little Rihanna. We found love in a hopeless place and pretend that you've lost your purse on the dance floor and run around. Three songs is all you need to change your day. Thank you guys so much for listening to another episode.

Thanks for hanging. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Katz-Belaine, Kaya Mineris. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.