Good Hang with Amy Poehler - Keke Palmer

Episode Date: August 18, 2026

Keke Palmer can do it all. Amy hangs with the actress, singer, and podcast host and talks about how Jesus was really a Virgo, her favorite songs to scream-sing, and everything she learned from Queen Latifah. Host: Amy PoehlerGuests: Paula Pell and Keke PalmerExecutive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-BermanFor Paper Kite Productions: Executive producer Jenna Weiss-Berman, coordinator Sam Green, and supervising producer Joel LovellFor The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson, Belle Roman, and Aleya Zenieris; lighting director Caroline Jannace; audio producer Kaya McMullen; social producer Bridget Geerlings; video editor Drew van Steenbergen; and bookers Kat Spillane and Paige GarbariniOriginal Music: Amy Miles This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. Stock up on glue sticks, pens, and other back-to-school essentials from your favorite brands for $5 or less on Uber Eats. Order now https://www.ubereats.com/ Check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds: https://Allstate.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode is brought to you by DoorDash. The new school year is a lot. There's so much to get ready. And of course, a lot of new stuff the kids need. But here's my tip. Don't leave the house. Yep, you heard me. Get everything from school supplies to school lunches,

snacks, and lunchboxes delivered. DoorDash has you covered without you stepping out of your front door. It's so convenient for overwhelmed parents. Plus, you can get up to 30% off select back-to-school items until September 13th. Get back to school delivered with DoorDash. Minimum subtotal and maximum discount vary. Terms apply. See app for details.

Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Goodhang. Very, very excited about our guest today. It is the great Kiki Palmer. Kiki can do anything and is in everything. She's currently in the movie, I Love Boosters, and in the TV show The Burbs. She has her podcast.

Baby, this is Kiki Palmer. And she is, she's going to be in Spaceball. She hosts Passwords. She's incredible. we talk about so many fun things today. We talk about being Virgos and the noblesse oblige that comes along with that. We talk about Mary J. Blige and what it's like to get into your anger. We talk about her season of restraint and what that looks like. We have such a good time and she has to go to the bathroom in the middle of it, which has never happened before, and just goes to show how comfortable she was. That makes me so happy. But before we get into it, we always talk to some of her.

who knows our guest, who loves our guest, wants to speak well behind their back and ask them a question. And we have a friend of the pod, writer, actress, queen, Paula Pell, who is zooming in, who loves Kiki and wants to tell us all about it. And I'm hoping right now is, is zooming in from her, you know, her new only fans account. One can only hope. So Paula, are you, Paula? Paula, Paula, can you hear me? You know those tiny back-to-school emergencies, it somehow become your problem? That's where Uber Eats comes in. You can order school supplies, snacks, and lunchbox essentials for $5 or less. So when your kid casually drops, I don't like peanut butter anymore, or I need five green highlighters for a project due tomorrow. Uber Eats has you

covered. Get everything you need for Back to School today from your favorite brands like Aldi and Staples on Uber Eats. Order now. And September 7th, $5 or less before taxes and fees. Select items only. Availability varies. See app for details. What if we just do that for 10 minutes? Hi! Oh, did I? Shit. No, you're on. I am? Why? Oh, boy. Why is, why am I off now?

I can see you. You can't see me? Oh, they ask for all they do. Oh, here it is. All they do is ask me for another AI thing. Do you want? I know. I had such a, I know we've talked about this. I have such PTSD about trying to sign my kids in during COVID to like various portals that I had a portal meltdown the other day. I know we all talk about it. There's got to be a word that's going to be made for like technological misery. It's every single time I agree to do a Zoom and then I'll get an email like 10 seconds before

and it says this is going to be on Collander. and I'm like, I'm sorry, Collander. I mean, one of the real ones is blue jeans. Nothing against blue jeans. But like, I was like, blue jeans, I'm sorry, blue jeans? Like, all you need to do is download this app

and go to a portal. Now, we're going to be on Werther's original. So if you want, but you are going to have to do a breathalyzer into your computer. You do have OS 7, 8, right? Yeah, it's like, it's like, Yeah, old Navy. I'm cool with you remembering my password.

I'm like, bitch, I got an apple clam shell. I got a teal apple clam shell. Would you like a new password? This one feels like you use it a lot. It's like, yeah, because it's the only way I can remember. Do you think I can remember it if I don't use it for every device? I want a plug in an outlet. I want to plug it in.

I tried to buy an old-fashioned alarm clock. I couldn't find one. Couldn't find a frigging alarm clock. I tried to take my blood pressure in a new blood pressure cuff I bought. And I was feeling a little off because I had a couple of drinks, got real dizzy. And I was like, something's wrong. I drank two drinks in the hot sun really quick. I feel weird.

But I got it out and it was so complicated and so many apps and profiles to fill out. we have to know this information about you before we do this and before you do and I'm just like I'll be dead by then I know I by the way you're making me want to get a blood pressure cuff I'm definitely getting that it's it's supposed to do all these things and of course when I'm on the internet I I all for every the funniest one lately is that during the snow this winter I saw one that had this little fan that blows the snow off your windshield like violently and every single video was like immediate like snow is immediately like like an eraser off your windshield and i got them and they were like this big and they blew like this and i got like four of them and was going to gift them to

people and we were laughing so hard because it was like this is the biggest fucking rip off oh my god the weakest fan is a good uh reality the weakest fan is a good uh reality The weakest fan now on Fox. And they're just really weak. Paula Pella is here. Paula, it's so good to see you. It's so good to see you. We're talking about Kiki today.

We have got Kiki Pomerin. And I was saying this and I know you would agree. Love her. She's so good. I'd so many things. Her hyphenates have hyphenates. I know. Like we're looking at her body of work.

It's like Broadway and, you know, and singing. And. writing and podcasting and acting and also just her being herself, like all the hosting that she does, all the way that she is someone else and herself. She's, I was trying to figure, you know, and I was like, she's like an old school entertainer. She really is. I wanted to talk to you today because you guys work together on the burbs. And I know, you know, I know you are this way. And I imagine maybe we'll find out Kiki is this way too. but, you know, there's no better gift than getting to do what we want with people who are professional and nice.

It's like all you're hoping for. And I remember you saying right away that like working with her was so pleasant. What was it like to work together on the burps? Oh, it was and it is. I mean, the whole, we're getting ready in October to shoot the second season of it. But it remains like such an incredible joy. that there is no, there's no dark side to it. Like, because she is, she's so nonstop in terms of what she's creating and what she's doing

in the world that like you watch her and you're just like, you know, and she's raising a little darling boy. And it's like she is so nonstop, but yet so present in each thing. even when she's multitasking and getting her hair and makeup done in the trailer. And she's also on a podcast. And she's also talking about her music video from her album that's coming out. And it's like sometimes when people are like that, you watch them. And I think it's my age too where I'm just like, how do they do all that? And just if you sit and talk to her about anything genuine, she's right there.

She wants to talk about it. She wants to hear what you have to say about it. She'll hold your hand. She'll, you know, we've gotten tearful together. in the makeup trailer talking about our lives and what we won't tolerate anymore and love. And, you know, just there's so many good things that I've derived from just being in her presence, truly. I was getting my hair blown out at a dry bar and I sat down.

By the way, congrats on your hair. I just want to point out again, most beautiful hair in the biz next to Tina. I'd love to see you guys fight it out. Okay, sorry. Half of it is blonde right now. half of it. This is this is God's colorist right here. But who is this gorgeous woman, God's colorist. She's kind of almost transparent. She's just very weird. I'm in dry bar while we're doing, while we're doing the burbs. And I sit down and Achila and the bee is on. And I look up and I see

baby Kiki with like braces and glasses and just like having this incredible touching scene with an adult Oscar winning actor, just like the two of them having this quiet scene together. And I'm just like, she was born fully cooked. She was just, she was born Kiki Palmer that I know. So excited to talk to her because she is exactly what you just said. It feels like she's just very good at talking and being in the moment and connecting. She's like, she's a real connector. Yeah.

And she's positive in a way that's not bullshit. like she's positive in the way that you say, oh, cheerfulness is a choice. And it's a constructive choice. It's a choice that actually changes your trajectory of your day. If you look at it and say grateful, cheerful, joyful, and that gratitude thing, she just lives through that all the time of like, I can't believe we're going to get to, we get to do that, you know, and then, and you want that because there's nothing worse than working with people in showbiz with,

dead eyes that don't realize how incredibly lucky they are to be doing the thing they're doing at the moment. And you just want to slap my heart across the page. Or you hope that in the script you get to so you can privately have the satisfaction. Do you have a question for Kiki? You're very good at questions. What does it look like for Kiki Palmer to rest? Like not exhaustion, not I can't even see. I'm so exhausted. I have to lay down. But like her restorative. rest, like for her to describe her favorite restorative rest. That is a great question. I cannot wait to ask her. I know she'll be thrilled that we talked and I, because I know she loves you right back. Thanks, P, love you. Give Kiki a big kiss for me. I will. This episode is brought to you by

Allstate. Checking Allstate first could save you hundreds on car insurance. Not checking whether your camera is off before the meeting. Yep, that's how your coworkers find out that you're working from home setup is more of a working from bed situation. Checking first is a good idea. So check Allstate first for an auto quote. It could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings varies subject to terms, conditions, and availability. Allstate North American Insurance Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. First of all, you look incredible, Kiki. It's so good to see you.

Virgo to Virgo. I know. We were talking about it earlier. Kiki and I are both Virgos. And, I mean, you've named an album. I mean, you... Virgo tendencies, you know, because we have the Virgo tendencies. What are Virgo tendencies? Let's go through them. I'm working on mine. We can kind of be know-it-alls.

It's fine, it's fine. We just see things. It's just so right away. And we want you to know, but we got to hold it in. We are great organizers in our own way. It doesn't always look... Talk to me about how you like to organize. I know you love to organize.

I saw your beautiful house. Oh, my gosh. I said, tell me, what your new favorite way to organize is. Like, is there a system? Labeling everything. Okay, talk to you up. I'm big on that labeling.

Like, everything has a particular place and spot. Contact, skin masks. One's for hydration. One's for exfoliation. Whoa, we're talking. Okay, we're in the bathroom. Yeah. We're in the bathroom.

Everything is organized. Even by my bedside supplements at the top, all my eye masks, like, getting ready to wind down. Then underneath is the journal. I even have written out my cycle things. what I need for them, what type of foods I should be eating at that time. I always get shocked when people tell me that they don't write out or like think about what they have to do the next day or what, like, I can't, I can't, I don't understand how people organize their days without a list. I don't either.

And it's so weird to imagine that that's so specific to a personality type. Yeah, that's right. It seems like the only human way to function. But I guess we're one of one or a group of one. Well, there are some very important Virgoes in the world. You are one of them. Beyonce is one of them. Can we talk about Kobe Bryant?

Can we talk about Kobe Bryant? Mother Teresa. We even have them in the spiritual realm. I always need people to know that because it's more than entertainment. We even have a strong preyed up Virgo. You know? And look, I'm not going to go there, but I heard that we celebrated on Christmas, but I heard that Jesus was born in September.

I swear I hurt. I swear I hurt. That's what I heard. Capricorns like to claim them. But we really have them. We know the real deal. We know the truth. We know that Jesus kept his eye masks very separate from his supplements.

I mean, you can't have disciples and not organize them. You can't have the crew like that. You can't be, you know what I mean? You can't have that set up. Oh, 100%. He was running a lot of things. He was running a lot. I'm saying.

He was like, you go over here, you go over here. I'll turn this to this. Orchestrated. I'll turn this to this. Watch. I'll take care of it. I'll take care of it. it's you know what the other thing I just I'm constantly always looking for systems I know you like this too

I love a good girl I love a good system I'm like telling me how you do it I just found something on ticot that I'm obsessed with which is it's the steel container that you keep next to your stove when you're cooking you know that you put like your utensils in there's a whole thing about like what are the six utensils that you need next to your stove that like you use that like you use you use every day. And when I tell you that I have spent hours shopping for what is the best and only bachelor, like what are the six cooking tools I want? That's support, that's self-support. That is, that to me, is a day well spent. I love that kind of thing because honestly, it's really about optimization. I think we're actually fighting for ease, even though it seems like we're

making our life more difficult by doing these things. These things are actually on the path of ease because when it's already set up, you don't have to think about it. You don't. Well, that's actually the theme of what I want to talk to you about today is this idea of exactly that, like, maximizing, optimizing. This is amazing. This is the most burgo-wing, and regaling session. And rest and ease. Yeah. Those two things. Because they are a, you need them both. Double-sided. They're a black and white cookie. You've got to have both. And I got to tell you, Kiki, I texted you on the way over here, um, whatever I have. your phone number, no big deal.

You look crazy. Because I had such a peaceful feeling. I had such a peaceful feeling coming to talk to you. I was like, I know that whatever we talk about is going to be funny and real. And you're so easy to be around and I talk to you, thank you for that. I know it's not easy to be an easy person to be around sometimes, if that makes any sense. But what I know about you always is that you bring a very open and curious version of your all the time and you're so talented and funny.

Kiki, you are so fucking funny. You are like an old-fashioned, one-of-a-kind entertainer who can do it all. You're like Martin Short, you're like Eddie Murphy. You're like, uh, I like, uh. Come on, Vonville, I live for the old-fashioned because that's how I grew up. I know. Like Lucille Ball. Yes.

There it is. That's it. Obsessed. You are like Lucille Ball. I love that vibe. You can do it all. You are a Swiss Army Knight. There's nothing you can.

You can't do Kiki! My girl! But I think you do too many things. I'm right, I do. This is also true. Black and white cookie. Black and white cookie. You are a mogul.

You're a visionary. You're a mogul. By the way, I was with Rashida the other night. And she told me that she's at your house. She's staying with you. Yes. And she told me that. And she was like, Amy told me you guys are going to be talking soon.

I said, I know I can't wait to see my girl. It was so good to see her. I know. My wife is staying with me for a while. It's so nice. Okay. We're going to talk about the future. We're going to talk about the future.

We're going to talk about, but I want to know right now, like, today, what was your morning like? What do you do in the morning? What's your system in the morning? This was a great day and morning for me. So last night, I got to bed at a pretty good time. Let's talk about sleep. So I was happy about that, girl. How much sleep do you like to get?

I mean, if I can get to sleep at 10.30, I'm really happy. Oh, that's a really, really happy. Last night I got to bed at 11 p.m. That's still a pretty good one for me, you know? So I went to sleep. I had my alarm clock set at 715 and then 7.30 because you know I needed. How long clock are we talking? I used to be,

mhm, m'r, m'r, then I said, girl, that's too much. You need to be nicer to yourself. So now it's like, doodoo-d-d-d-d-d-do-do-do-do. So that's a little nicer, you know what I mean, and I have it on loud, because I was planning to go to Pilates,

which I made. I'm so happy. I went to one of my favorite studios. Actually, that's a lie. It is my favorite studio. Forma, I love it so much. So I went at 8 a.m. Felt so good about my life of myself.

Because, you know, I feel good when I get a little bit of a workout in. And Pilates is perfect because it's not too intense. Like I'm not like trying to lose my life in the gym. You're becoming a Pilates instructor? Yes, girl. Kiki. What I felt like that one clip where somebody's impersonating over her and they're like, I think I did a sketch about that where my head blew off.

Where my head blew off. Kiki, you are a Pilates instructor. Girl, because I fell so in love with it and it became such a big part of my life that I'm like, I want to be a part of giving other people this feeling. Yeah. Because it's really, really helped me. It's helped me. Dude, me too.

I do Pilates, and it is one of those things that makes me feel connected to my actual body, because I can feel a little disembodied. Girl, me too. I mean, I think we have a lot of similarities. I'll try not to harp on the entire interview, but I do think we do. And one of them is, like, I need to, like, I'm like, do you like to be smushed? Oh, my gosh, like, smushed together with a body? Or, like, just, like, a heavy thing on you.

Like, okay. Yes. I could use more of that. Okay, do you like stem a little bit? Like, do you put your feet under? Oh, yes, I do. Do you put your feet under cushions? Yes, I put my feet under cushions.

I like to be smushed up against things in that regard. I bite my jaw a lot. Yeah, just to feel a little. Oh, my gosh, it's so. Sometimes because when you're living up here, sometimes you have to be reminded I have a body. Yes. It's so true. It's true.

And Pilates really does that. Do you think that this is something about why we like comedy? Do you think that that's connected in a way? Great question. That's a great question. That's a great question. I mean, that's why I think I always am enamored with dancers, as dancers are always like in their bodies, like thinking about their bodies, moving them.

And you can see how they move. They're just, they are inside their bodies. And I think you're right. Comedy, a lot of it is like, wee. Like you're the, that's what's, we're up in that air with it. And it's like, it's fun to be the disembodied. But then sometimes what I've learned with myself and what Pilates helped me to realize is that I've got to have some more balance with this. Because it's fun to be wee, because sometimes you need to be we.

Yeah. But then it's like you need to also really have the practices that remind you that it's safe inside, too. Totally. It's crazy. Let's do the hundreds really fast. By the way, it's time to work out. You didn't know? Okay.

You're hosting an amazing podcast and have for many years. I had the pleasure doing it. And you're so good at it. Oh, my gosh. And what have you, like, I know I'm learning a lot about, you know, even how I communicate, how I operate, what I bring to the, what have you learned about yourself from talking to all these people? Well, you know, I felt like I always knew that I liked to talk, but I didn't know that it was something people enjoyed. You know what I mean?

So I felt like I was so surprised and delightfully surprised that people would want to hear conversations because that's what I love to have. Yeah. So I feel like the podcast, I mean, you know when you're going to any podcast that it's time to talk and it's time to get into something interesting. But not everyone, not everyone does that. Right? Like, I feel like you and I could talk forever and ever. That's not always the case with people who come in to talk. Yeah.

And it's fascinating to sit in the, to tolerate the silence of it too. It's hard. That's hard for me. You know, a lot of, some people have asked me about that with the guests. Like, you know, do you enjoy every single guest? And I was like, I do, but every guest is different. Totally. So the level of enjoyment is also predicated on how much.

They're willing. So you're right that sometimes, you know, it's not that it's not a great time, but it's that maybe this person's not that open. And that's okay. I'm going to meet them where they are and still we're going to have a great time. Well, that's what you can do so well is meet people where they are and mirror people, like their energy. I find sometimes, you know, by my like codependency, it's hard for me to not fill in a silence.

And then you're like in your head, you're like, shh, quiet now, quiet. quiet and it's like I can't I can't stop talking that's the regulator that's like I gotta regulate this it's like rhythm and I think about this all the time as a as a performer like I think we're constantly in rhythms so it's like when we hear a down beat we like oh shit it turned it to Macbeth real fast like why are we now can you say Macbeth on a podcast is that bad luck like it gets you know so it's but but sometimes it's like that's what it needs to be Yeah, that's right. So I'm also in a season of practicing restraint.

Oh! I'm trying to put... When I say you, I'm raining my shit in, like my name is Rudolph. I'm raining and in it. Season of restraint. Season of restraint. Okay, what does that look like? I feel that.

So, God, that is so hard. It's like seeing something and knowing something and not saying it. You know, having a conversation and deciding to let reality show me instead of pulling for more, asking for more. You know, if it doesn't feel good, right, if I have to contort myself or push in order for it to happen, deciding that I should pull back. You know what I mean?

And I'm really happy that I'm in this season. And again, I always bring everything back to my son, but my son is really bringing out the best in me because as a mom, I feel like we had to practice restraint. That's right. Because we got to let our kids learn things. That's right. We can't always step in the way.

And so that's teaching me that, wait a minute, I probably should be pulling back in a lot of areas in my life. And not only will that actually be a better service to the things that I'm a part of, but I'll also have more energy. Oh, yeah. When it's time for me. And it's a hard lesson. It was a hard lesson for me to learn, which is actually people feel closer to you when they get to take care of you. Which, barf. I mean, like, like, like, I was like, what?

Why am I so adverse to that? What do you mean? I know, I was like, what do you mean? I take care of people. That's my love language. And it's like, no. And what are you going to do for me?

You're not ever going to do it right. I got to relax with that. I know. I sometimes feel like you, an obligation that nobody's asking for, by the way. People aren't asking it of me, but an obligation to mirror match and take care of people. And then secondly,

speaking of Rashida, Kadada, her sister taught me this. She was like, you cut the cords when you get home, right? I was like, girl, when you started talking about visualized says give us a... Melissa Joan Hart, to bring up teenage witch, my show, my girl. These are good rituals. Do you know about cutting the cords? Girl, I've been cutting somebody called for the last month.

Let's say it's a relationship, even a family member. Whatever it, the thing you feel like is hooked to you. Yeah. For me, I was imagining the chord of this relationship that I felt was weighing me down. It was not good for me. I was feeling too emotionally pulled from it constantly. So she walked me through visualizing a cord. And it was like the cord was thick.

It was like the weight of a ton. It was like thick, like almost leathery. I could fill it right around my sacral area. You know what I mean? It's deep. It's deep rooted to my power source. And I just sat there and say, you know what, I need a, I need a knife.

No, I need a motherfuckin' axe to cut this shit. So I just start visualizing Where this court is, right? You're in this, missus. And every day I was accident. And it would try to come back. It would try to rejuvenate yourself. And I kept accident, accident, accident, and now it's gone.

It's no longer there. But these visualization tools are absolutely necessary. For me, it's more about that feeling when you walk through a cobweb. And you get that feeling where you've got a cobweb on you and you're like, and you know it's around and it's kind of sticky. I think that way sometimes when I walk through my house,

which is I got to get rid of other people's cobwebs. And it can be like person that you walk past to that, like, give you a shitty look or a bad conversation or even just like some version of yourself that you didn't like that day. That kind of feeling of entering a threshold clean and clear, whatever it takes. My grandma, I didn't realize this until I got older and I started to reflect back. My grandma used to always tell me and teach me to sweep in front. of the porch and sweeping back at a porch. And it was just like this same kind of concept of removing everything.

Making sure, you know, it's clean. You know, cleaning your space and kind of setting the tone and setting the area. I think those things are like getting back into that stuff and talking with other women about that kind of thing. It's just feels so empowering. It's so good for the soul. You know what I mean? Okay.

I feel like you got a lot of this like really good sense of how to read people from Chicago where you grew up. And I bet a lot of people don't assume you're from the Midwest. They don't. They don't, but I feel like I give Midwest. Yes. What's the most Midwest thing about you? Well, I love the mundane. Where?

Like, I love simplicity. Yes. And that's why when people are always like, they always are interested in my dating life or, you know, what type of, it's like, I'm always interested in everyday Joe. Because that reminds me of where I'm from. And that doesn't mean that everyday Joe's not special. It just means that he's not flashy.

He's not flamboyant. He's not taking up... You know, he might take up space because he's awesome, but he's not, like, that's not how he enters... And I feel like that's... Chicago is a very blue collar. It's very, like, people are amazing and awesome, but they're kind of like, no big deal.

Totally. And so I love that kind of energy when people don't have to put on too much. You know what I'm saying? They can be themselves and they can give a little jazz, but it doesn't have to be, like, for a certain thing. It's just them being a cool person. Totally.

I love, like, you know, picnics, going to a lake, you know, being in a trailer, I love a trailer, I love going like around a road trip type of situation. Like, just things that I feel like are very salt of the earth. This episode is presented by

Amex. You know that move where you refresh a ticket page over and over, like somehow your persistence is going to impress the internet? We've all done it during meetings, waiting in line, while recording this, maybe. But that's where Amex Platinum comes in. Get access to front of

line Amex pre-sale tickets and Amex reserve tickets to some of the most in-demand concerts, theater productions, and special events, often before the general public. Then when the big night arrives, access to the Amex card member entrance at select venues can help you get to where you're going a little faster. There's nothing like Amex. Tickets are subject to availability, terms, and conditions apply. Learn more at Amex.ca.com. slash YMX. This episode is brought to you by Coors Seltzer. Summer just got

7% better. On top of Sunshine Barbecues and Cottages, the new 7% Kores-Seltzer slushy flavor lineup just dropped. Now available in three new flavors, Fruit Punch, Green Apple, and Blue Raspberry, and don't worry. The classic slushy flavors

aren't going anywhere. Cherry, grape and orange are still here, still refreshing, and still perfect for any summer moment. Find KOR's Seltzer slushy flavors at a retailer near you. Celebrate responsibly. Must be legal drinking age. This episode is brought to you by Cozy. You know that feeling when you walk into a room and everything just works? The sofa,

the bookshelf, the coffee table, the rug? That feeling has a name. And it's Cozy. Cozy is a modular furniture brand built around the idea that your home should work for you, not the other way around. Whether you're in your first apartment or your forever home, cozy sofas, shelves, rugs, dining pieces, bedroom sets and outdoor furniture are all designed to grow and adapt with you. I'm talking washable and interchangeable covers, modular furniture that can be rearranged or added to, and completely customizable designs. All shipped to your door and easy to move boxes. So go on, make yourself at home. Visit cozy.ca. That's c-o-z-e-y-y-y-y-i-and transform your living space today. Cozy, the home of possibilities made easy. Who was a Chicago star that you saw when you were there like...

Bernie Mac. Oh my God, can we talk about Bernie Mac? Bernie Mac, baby. Bernie Mac, Chicago legend. I love Bernie Mac. I love Bernie Mac's mom. Rest in peace, Bernie. We love Bernie.

He was, he hosted us and... He was so nice. I miss Bernie so much. Tell me why he was important to you and how you met him. You know, because he was... So I actually never met Bernie Mac. I didn't get to meet him, which is devastating. You know, it's devastating.

I have a couple of those people, too, where I'm like, I didn't meet Whitney Houston. Yeah. God Whitney would have loved you. And I feel like we would have been like, you know, 100% But I loved her daughter, Bobby Christina. Yeah. Me and Bobby Christina met on my space.

And we would always be like, hey, girl, hey girl. Love Bobby Christina. Rest and peace to Bobby Christina too. Yes. But yeah, I always loved Bernie because he was so funny and so real. And always was able to ride the wave of like being edgy and saying something true, but also still like, I think the wonderful.

thing about any great comedian is to be able to bring up difficult topics and make metabolize them, help the public metabolize them and through entertainment. And I think he was great with that. Totally. And he just was, yeah, he just, he also seemed like a really sweet person. Everybody loved Bernie too, you know what I mean? And so he just seemed to have a genuine spirit and obviously a great inspiration. So I love, whatever I think about, you know, anybody, Chicago greats, you know, Bernie

is one of the first group that come in my mind. Now I'm picturing you and Whitney, though, singing on stage. Oh, my gosh. That would have been. God. That would have been incredible. Okay. Okay, sorry.

Well, um. But so you're in Chicago and both of your parents were actors. Yeah. I mean, not professional, but they did it like off-rock. They met that way. They met that way. They did speech and turp. They met actually at a speech competition in New Orleans.

That's what they had Papa asked for the first time. They always bring that up because I guess like back then, Popeyes was like Raising Cains or like Chick-fil-A before it became national. Like it was only in New Orleans. So they always talk about that was the first time we had Popeyes. Also, Popeyes is branded this. No, I'm kidding. But they loved, they always talked about that.

They talked about their story of falling in love through the arts. When they got back to Chicago, my mom went to New York, and she was going to be an actress and performer. My dad stayed in Chicago, and they would be like pen pals writing letters back and forth and talking on the phone every now and then. And my mom couldn't afford tap shoes. So my dad, like, spent all his money, and, like, she had tap shoes at her door, like, the following week. And that was so touching to her.

And he was so supportive of her. And then one day she doesn't hear from him And she was like, what is the motherfucker? She's like, piss. She was like, a few days of going by like, who the hell, where to hell? And finally she gets a call. And she's like angry. She's like, what do you mean?

Larry got into a car. He got into a big accident. Oh my gosh. And his mouth has been like closed shut. So he couldn't speak. She was on the next flight out. And she said, I knew how I felt then that I had to be with this man for the rest of my life.

So she goes back to Chicago. They do theater in Chicago at the Black Ensemble Theater, started by Jackie Taylor. It still goes on. And my parents performed in this really cool musical called The Other Cinderella. And they just fell in love. Right, right, right, which is crazy, right? Because Kiki was in Cinderella.

It's so weird to me, these little, like, things. And, yeah, and then they started having kids, and it was kind of a dreams-deferred situation. They were like, oh, reality hit. What I love, you speak all the things. the time so beautifully about it is how your family made a big sacrifice to kind of support your dream. They moved from

Chicago to L.A. Your siblings came to, right? My siblings came to? They came. They all picked up and moved. They all picked up. So we drove four days and three nights and then when we got there was like oh my gosh, we're so broke. You know what I mean? How we're going to get pulled things together? So I get an agent and we have been talking and emailing and I had

met some people before on a one trip that I went with my parents. So we knew who I was going to be working with and I got me. And I got me and age, and immediately. I mean, really very quickly, I got a job. When I got that job... What was the job? It was a movie that I did with William H. Macy. I was 10 years old, and it was

called the Wool Cap. And, like, it was kind of like a play on Gigo, so, like, he didn't talk. And I was, like, this little girl that was like, this me and my friend, you know, we need this. You know? Yeah. The movie is so, it's so old. It was like a T&T film. Anyhow, we did this movie, and my mom and I

went to Montreal. It was the first time that my parents had, like, not been around each other 24-7, you know, in like, since she was 19. Because a lot of people don't know when you're a minor and you're on set, you need an adult guardian with you at all times. But then it's like they're only going to pay for one. Right. So my dad stayed back.

And this was like kind of a moment where the family experienced what we knew we never wanted to really have to experience again, which was separation. Yeah. So my dad was in L.A., making sure we had a good place to stay. My sisters and my sister and my younger brother and sister went back with my grandma for a little bit. And then when we came back after that movie, we knew that it was like, whatever situation we get in, we need to make it to where we can be together at some point. Like, we have to figure this out. And so that was like the beginning.

And so that caused for a lot of sacrifices. It's a lot of pressure on you, too. It's a lot of pressure on you. For sure. Tons. And that I couldn't really hold. I think in the beginning I probably talked about it more. And then as time went on, it was just like, if I talk about this anymore, I'm going to break.

Yeah. Because you've decided to do something that you love. You're a natural at it. You, the family is like, okay, we're behind you. And then, of course, like with that comes like an expectation that you're not, you can't complain about the thing that's hard to do. And you can't change your mind about the thing that's hard to do. No.

And you have to keep doing the thing that you are really naturally good at and love to do because it's taking care of a lot of people. It's a lot. Heavy on that last part because our lives changed tremendously. Yeah. And once you, when you're in poverty, you don't really know too much. I mean, especially at the age in which I was. You know, when I left, I was 10.

So it didn't really hit me yet that like this could be a problem. Now, certain things did, right? Like I had experienced discrimination with my race. I had experience like, oh, I can't get K-Swiss at Payless. You know, I'd experience some things. But they weren't, it wasn't so heavy yet. I still felt like, you know. And then when you actually see it,

when I actually started to see what I was missing out on, what my family was missing out on. I felt that they deserved so much more. I felt we deserve so much more. So then it became like, how do I make sure that we get to have what I realize was like really things that all human beings should have? But that's adult thinking and behavior.

That's adultified, parentified stuff pretty early. And you've talked about it. I love how you talk about it with your family. It feels like you've really, in a way that I think, few people, you know, because you certainly don't have to be an actor to have that happen to you. You can be any... Parentification of the child is actually quite common.

Exactly. Especially under capitalism. Ooh. It is tough, but it's the truth. And I think that's been such a big part of my healing and my family's healing because it all cost us something. People judge my parents so badly. They really, really judged them. And that was a hurt that I didn't know because I was also feeling what I was.

feeling in my position. And so them owning what, us talking about it and owning what that experience did to all of us to be so perceived, to be so judged for what some things were out of our control. Like, I mean, how can you be, how can you reject the reality that my parents weren't going to get the same opportunities that I was getting? Also, they had a daughter like you. and you are a very, very special person. I mean, I don't believe anybody's above and anybody's below,

but you have a gift. I think I realized just how much courage it took my parents to really let me go. Yeah. And really, like, let me be me because, yeah, it was a lot. Little Akila and the B, Kiki. I mean, it must be wild to have your inner child in a movie. It's so crazy.

You're like, you're like, I'm going to go check out my inner child and you turn it on. I mean, that performance, you in it, and that moment, it's so tender. It's so precious and so special. It hits me more now. Do you want, has Leo seen it? He hasn't seen it yet. Leo does, has shown that he doesn't think I'm that dope. He has, it has starting, it started to appear.

Yeah. That I'm not really cool to him. I remember I was playing some. I was playing some Drake, you know. Uh-huh. And I was like, hey, hey, hey, I was like, A-G, Mommy, no. Oh, yeah, don't dance.

Stop it. Stop it, no. You need to stop being silly. You're like, everybody loves when I get silly. Silly pays the bills, honey. Everybody loves when I do the silly thing. You hate it somehow. Oh, yeah.

He's like, cut that shit out. It's crazy how brutal they can be. It's, I mean, his space for my silliness is this much. He'll gag with me for a minute and he's like, stop. He's like, please, cut the clown show. It's so crazy. It's so crazy. But that's healthy.

That's healthy. Oh, my gosh, because it really set you straight. And also, you do not want your kid to be like, you do not want your kid taking care of your ego and feelings. You just don't. You don't want them to be like, oh, I got to make sure that mom feels funny today. Oh my gosh. That dangerous.

Like if your kids, my son the other day was like doing back to me all my fake laughs. And I was like, I feel so seen. He was like, mom, you know, you didn't think it was that funny. And I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, well, because you were like, ha, ha. And I was like, what? And he was like, you know when you go, ha. And I was like,

And I go, stop paying attention to me. I know. It's so incredible. They're always watching. Okay. Can I talk to you about a couple of people that you work with? Because there are some people that you work with that I love. And I know you've worked with some very, very special people.

And they've met a lot to you. And you have worked with so many wonderful women. And I do want to ask and specifically focus on the women that you've worked with. Angela Bassett. Okay. Talk about Angela Bassett. Angela Bassett, hands down, incredible. Working with her on Akila N. The Bee was the best gift that I could have coming into this industry.

And she taught me something that I didn't really understand well enough till later. But she taught me a skill of how to get to the emotion without damaging yourself. Because I think for many years, because I didn't have a lot of experiences as a kid, it was hard for me to attach what the character was going through to something that had happened to me. Without damaging myself. Without being like, my grandma died. Yeah. And so when I was on set with her, I had a scene where Dr. Larry leaves me, you know, doesn't help me anymore. And she, I can't cry.

I can't get to the emotion. And she's like, who helps you with everything? I'm like, oh, you know, my mom. You know, he's like, who helps with your lines? Who takes you to the auditions? I'm like, my mom. She was like, well, what if your mom said, I'm not helping you anymore? You can't do the thing that you love.

And I immediately started crying. And that was like something that I now understand. I do it all the time. But for many years from that moment in between, I struggled with doing the wrong thing, which could be really hurtful to you as an actor because your emotions don't know that you're kidding. That's right.

Sometimes what helps me cry is I'm like, I'm doing such a bad job in the scene. I can't cry. I'm not kidding. Queen Latifah. Okay, Dana. Dana is so remarkable. She's really something.

She taught me what it means to be a CEO, to be a business one. If you're listening, please come on. Oh, yo. Have you had her on your pod? Yeah, she doesn't do. I am saying it. She doesn't do it.

She doesn't do it. She doesn't do me and Kiki's pods. We'll do it together. That would be sickening. Yeah, she's something else. Because she doesn't really talk too much. So if you hear her, you'll be like, well, she's a queen. She doesn't have to.

And boy, does she, she also taught me how to walk. I still haven't got her walk together, but when I tell you, the queen is titty's up. Back. Incredible. I know. I love the way she walks. I know. It's such a hot walk.

Yeah. And back is straight. Yeah. The chest is high. Regal, smart, funny. Great sense of humor about herself, which, like, doesn't take herself too seriously. Like, you learn so much about somebody when they come and host SNL.

Like, immediately. You learn immediately because they're nervous. You learn what people get what are like when they're nervous or stressed. She was so fun and funny. And I've told the story before. There was a moment where me and her and Maya had to sing these, like, jingles. And it was very SNL, like, live show, they're counting down like 10, nine, eight. And then the stage manager's like,

there's no music. Five, four. And we're like, what? Three. And she's like, just sing without music. Two, one. And we're like, la la la la la. And after she was like, she just like had such a good time with that. The chaos. The chaos. Yeah. What did she's good under pressure? That people are watching, even when you don't think they're watching. Because I remember when I'd worked with her, I started working with her a couple of different times. And I was like, you know, one of the last times, the director was like, you know, it was hard to figure out who we wanted to give the role to. And we spoke to Queen and we asked who she thought was the best person for the job. And she said, you. And so I was thanking her for like, you know, thank you for believing

in me. And she said, well, Kiki, I've actually been, you know, it's not just me believing you. I've actually been seeing, watching you. Yeah. And I'm like, Dan, you was watching. And she was like, you are professional. You show up to everything that you do. And, So keep, because you don't know, I just remember thinking in that moment, like, wow, like, my work ethic precedes me. You know, the way that I continue to move into the game, it's going to count for something at some point. Also, it's not what you say.

It's what you do. You know what I'm saying? Like, even though we like to talk, you like to talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. Like, my, I, acts of service for me is a love language, like the way, what people do. You can say whatever you want But like what did you actually do? Yeah

And it sounds like she was like She did things She made things happen for you Continuously over time Yeah Yeah That's amazing Do you like to cry

Are you good crier In real life? Yeah I think so I think I'm that An easy crier I think I'm that person That's like

Time to cry But do you cry by yourself Or I cry actually alone Quite a lot I love crying alone Some people can say I have a depression issue

I love crying alone But I love to cry alone. And I save space and hold space for a while. Sometimes I'm like, oh, I'm going to cry tonight. But I'm going to cry tonight. It is. It's like, I'm going to get, I'm going to get a TV show. I'm going to get on my, I'm going to get on my biomat.

I'm going to get in my bio. I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry like my life depends on it. I will literally cry, cry, cry. And it's because it's actually like a release. Yes. It's a release of the sadness that you need brought out, that you buried, maybe it was from yesterday,

maybe it was from 10 years ago, but you caught it in the ether of your mind. I never cried about that. I think I also have a lot of anger. A lot of anger because, you know, it's such a thing as a black woman where it's like, can be angry. Oh, yeah.

But then it's like, it goes to the point where it's like, bitch, you should be angry for that. Yeah. You know what I mean? And so I feel like I'm dealing now with the realities of holding space for the fact that I'm allowed to be angry without wearing the weight of the perception around being an angry black woman.

Oh, yeah. You know, so I think I have a lot of work to do there where I allow myself the space to be pissed off. Yeah. So the idea of just like, I started getting into rock music a little bit more. Fuck yeah. I don't got a couple right rock songs that I wrote. Whoa. Oh my gosh.

And I'm like, because I'm letting that rage out. You know what I mean? Why I'm going to be like, yeah. Because it's like I'm actually angry. You know? You know, I didn't let it out You know. Fuck yeah.

No shit. It's crazy. God, I love that for you, Kiki. I love that. I love that anger. I love that era for you. I do like that very much. Yes.

Very Kaleas. I hate you so much right now. Wait, what are some good angry songs? That was a good one. Oh, much I love that. I also love Fifi Dopson. I grew up loving Fifi Dopson. She's like OG classic.

You know, that's my girl. What? Other songs that are, like, really good for screaming. We're a good screaming. I mean, you can go to a G4L, like Rihanna back in that one, that one right after Good Girl Gone Bad. She was pissed. Yeah, and Bitch Better Have My Money is not screaming, but it's angry.

You know what I'm saying? Also, what? No. I just can't figure it out. You remember that one? I love that album because that album was like, the second album was like, it was like, Good Girl Going Bad, and then the second album was like, yo, I'm in a dark place.

It was really, I mean, those albums were just so curated in a way that told us the story of a woman becoming. I felt that way with Mary, J-Bla. Mary is that too. Mary had like a way of expressing that, like, mature anger. Oh, my gosh. Mary. Mary. And then I'm just fine, find, fine, fine, fine, like she showed us.

Yeah, she showed us the whole arc. I know. Let's get it. I'm obsessed. Mary, I'm obsessed with Mary. And now she's on stage, like, can't wait to get off. Also, did you ever hear of? I love her down.

That's success. You know? It's the minute you're on, you're waiting to get off. True Capricor energy. Oh, she's, you're so right. We don't hear about Mary, please. If you and Queen are listening to this together, please come on. Please.

Please. Please. Okay. J. Lowe. Oh. Love. Okay. I feel like you guys have a work.

Get me up off her. My girl. Okay. What did you love about working with her? Well, first of all, I love that she's a real boss bitch and she don't play. Yeah. She's very like, come on. But she's, again, watching.

And she has respect for people that are showing up and giving 100%. Yeah. And so we kind of bonded because she saw me like on my grind. I wasn't like trying to be too like, I mean, I'm on a van. But I was like, I have so much respect for you. And then boom, I'm going to what I got to do. and I'm focusing on my thing. And she was kind of like, well, how can I help you with that?

Like, how can I, like, she really liked that I was in my own bag. Yeah. And we became really close after that. And I've gone through things in my life. Yeah. Where it's like, randomly, she'd be like, call me if you need me. Mm-hmm. I'll call her, and she'll give me some real deal.

And it's like, it's just like she's a real girl's girl. Mentor. You know what I mean? She's a real mentor. And she's like, I want you to win. You know what I mean? I want you to win. And also, it's, I want you to win in this way where it's,

It's also like you're already winning. Yeah. Which is a really cool way to empower somebody. Yes. You know what I mean? Where it's like, Whoopi Goldberg is like that. Willby Goldberg is very, very like,

Wuby Goldberg is like, I'm in chapter 100. You are currently at chapter 30 and I see it. Yeah. She's very like a sage. I don't think that ever, at least for me, that's never ended, which is the women that are ahead of me,

like, I'm just watching them. Like, how are you doing it? How are you operating? What can I learn from you? like, and then the women younger than me constantly and like thankfully keep challenging the things that I'm very certain about. Like every time I get certain, I'm like, right, right, right. There's a young person being like, just before you like carve that in stone, you want to

give that another thought? And I'm like, fuck, you're so right. Like, that's, that's, like, it feels like that's the. I really love that because Queen actually said something. Dana said something like that to me before that made me feel so good because people, give you so much, you want to be able to give them something. And she has said something around those lines

where it's like, you know, it becomes recursive. Because there is something that you can hopefully show because of the groundwork that they laid. Well, hey, when you laid that groundwork, I decided to go left and I found something new. So maybe we can go left together too.

Yeah. And that's very cool. Yeah, very cool. I got to say one guy. I got to put one guy in this list. I want to do. Who is? Jordan Peel. Oh my gosh, Jordan. I really wish that we work together again. Your relationship and that film, Nope, you were so incredible. Thank you.

Beautiful. Like such charismatic, interesting work. He is so talented, of course, to be directed by him, what's that like? How do you like how he works? How do you like his system? He was the first director that made me realize, and this is no shade to any other director, but made me realize that my opinion was a part of being an actor. That not just taking the orders of or just doing exactly what, you know, and every

director is different. I'm open to that. I'm really, I think that's also why I've been working in the industry as I have, because I'm very moldable. I'm very malableness, I guess I'll say. It's the mutable qualities of Virgo where I can go where you go. Once I've signed on and I, if I respect you, that's why, I mean, I've only signed on if I respect you.

And so I'm open to where you want to take. me. Totally. But my experience with him was, I respect you. Where do you think I should take this? And that was like a really enriching and empowering experience that now I actually take to my projects, even where the director's not as open. I say, well, I hold their feet to the fire on, well, on day one, you told me the characters this way. So I can go where you want me to go. Yeah. But I want you to know that this is contradictory. And so what does that mean to her at this point in time? What is that actually? You know, so having that experience with him really empowered that side of me that felt like I could be open and vocal about how to keep consistencies in a character.

What felt most true to the role? And then he was fun. Because you didn't come from an ensemble. Like, you never had that ensemble feeling, like of collaborating in that way. It's such a good point. What did you say? Because that's probably, that's Jordan. Yeah?

Sketch, improv. Like, that idea that, like, we're all. I'm going to try to figure that out together, and it's just a little less lonely. Like it can really, at least for me anyway, it was like, acting is hard and lonely and can be, you know, because everybody has their own special thing. Okay. Now, as the therapist would say, I'm aware of the time. But I just, there's a few other things I want to talk to about, the burbs. Oh my gosh, the burbs.

Let me look at what is the burbs. Okay. Wait, let me talk to. Can I give you that second? Oh, yeah, we're talking. This is the first time. This has ever happened where I talked to the guests for so long that they have to go to the bathroom. Okay, Kiki Palmer is back.

How is the bathroom? Oh, my gosh. That was amazing. Okay, great. It's good to be hydrated, but sheesh. Yeah, okay. So you're in Space Balls, which is hilarious coming out. You're in I Love Boosters, huge film, incredible cast.

You guys. Shout us to Boots Riley. I love him so much. And like, that movie just looks so fun and original. Congrats on that. And then the Burbs, another season of that, which is starting to shoot in the fall. Yeah. And so we have a question for you from Ms. Paula Pell.

So we spoke to Paula. Yeah, let's talk about Paula. She's one of the most incredible humans ever. She really, really is. First of all, she's really talented, skillful writer, very, very funny. But she's the kind of person where you can know you can call her up and drive down to the mountains and just be on the couch and have fun with her and her wife and just have the best weekend.

Like she's just really, she reminds me at home, but she's also a Midwestern gal. That's right. You guys are Midwestern gals. So she spoke so highly of you and so lovingly of you, and we talk well behind your back. And she is on the burbs with you co-stars at that show. And she had a question that I love and wanted to ask you about

because it ties into the idea. of rest. And she, her question was, what does it look like for Kiki Palmer to rest? You know, I've learned that for me, rest still is active. I need to be active. I think that's why I like Pilates more than yoga. Yes. Is it Mason's? I can't. So rest. So rest is so slow. I want to die. It's to, you know what I mean? There has to be some activity in rest. So rest looks like, for me, a day with my son in the yard playing. It looks like getting my mind. nails done or my hair done or both. It looks like,

your nails look incredible. Thank you. I got them done. For me, rest is like a recharge. And then another thing that I've been doing that's kind of more typical on the nose, but I've realized that it's really good for me is I've been taking naps. Really? I started taking naps. Fantastic. In the car.

You know? In the bathroom just now? That's what I just did. I've literally been, because you know, sometimes you'll be going in between these jobs, it'll be 30 minutes. Oh, yeah. Could even be a 45-minute ride in LA, depending on where you're going. I started napping.

There's a really cool woman I want you to check out. You should maybe have on your show, Dr. Sandra Dalton Smith. And she did a TED talk about rest. And also, like she talks a lot about black women. She's black. Yes, and the need for that specifically, to your point, a very specific kind of rest.

It's like rest is not an option. Rest. Also, it is, is like you could have died trying to rest. That's right. You know what I mean? That's right. And so, you know, and I feel like any of the, any of the, when you think about black lineage, if your family is here today,

y'all definitely didn't rest. That's right. That's why you're here. That's right. So it's like, it's a lot of undoing. Yeah. She talks about spiritual rest and creative rest and all this stuff. And it's cool.

And I just like to hear, like, thank you for saying that because I also feel like my rest needs to be a little active. and I don't always know where to put it. And, you know, like, puttering is a big one for me. What's puttering? Well, I call it puttering, but it's just like walking around the house. Like, and it's not housekeeping, which is different, right? Like, it's not cleaning.

It's just kind of like, like, it's a little bit of organizing. Like organizing a pile or just like with no goal, just like going from room to room and just kind of thinking about like, you know, like maybe taking a note. Like, I got to remember to. I actually love puttering. puttering. I got to remember to change. I want to change the cover on that chair. I should do that. No expectation to do it. Just like observing in slow motion, you know, and just touching things. That's the mundane. That's the mundane. That's the mundane. That's right. It's the mundane.

There's so, that moment in between the scene. Walking down the hallways. You know. Okay, I'm here to tell you. I'm here to tell you. I know. What do you think? It's good. going to be the next thing for you because here's why the Virgo and you is going to love a puzzle. Because I'm not particularly good at them, by the way. It's not like I can't, like, I don't really like have a great puzzle brain. You take the puzzle, you sort the pieces, which feels really nice. You sort them. You walk away. Like puzzles take forever. There's no like deadline for a puzzle. You get a nice puzzle board or table. You're like, this is where I do my puzzle. Then you come back, you have your coffee and you're like, oh, you know, you're like, this is never, you know,

it's going to take me forever to do this puzzle. And then you find a nice puzzle. on one piece and you put it in, you're like, fucking hot dog. You get an instant, an instant boost. You did one thing and then you go, maybe I'll try to get one more. And you're like, no, I got to go to work. The puzzle is this like long meditation. I like puzzles for you. You know, when I was a little girl at my grandma's house, we would do puzzles.

So there's something that was in there that could have unlocked. Okay. Final minutes, speed round. Oh. Anything you have about any of this? Shout it out. Favorite old sitcom. Oh, well, this was the one that came into mind immediately,

so I'm going to say this one, Family Matters. Yes. But there's many more, but that's just what came to me. Comfort, comfort watch. Okay, manicures, you love them. Yeah. How, like, what, how long do your manicures take? And what do you like?

Hopefully no more than an hour and 30 minutes. Okay, great. I like to keep it pretty simple, a color with maybe like a glaze or a chrome or, you know You know what I mean? Right now I've got the French chip with a little glaze. Like, I try to keep it like where it goes with everything. I don't want to, I'm not the girl that's like, I was there for three hours. No, no, no. Okay.

Stand-up comedy. Would you ever do it? Yes. You do it every day. No, but I would totally love to do. I need to find a writing partner. I would love to do a stand-up show. You've got an hour already in material.

You go on the Hollywood reporter. You do that thing. You talk about two girls. And Quinta goes, Kiki. And I'm like, that is it. You're so. I really want to do one one day. Okay.

All right, we're going to do that. You're going to do that. If you want to do it, you're going to do it. Album, you're listening to right now. Oh, album I'm listening to right now. You know, I'm not, I haven't totally digested the Drake album. I've listened to a few songs. A lot of songs.

I haven't completely digested Don Tolliver's last project, but I like listening to him a lot. You know, I'll be honest with you. There's not many artists that I'm like, I want to get the album. If there's a song, old or new right now, like if you were like, let's start dancing. Like, I want to get a party going. What would you play? My. Do you ever think of candy?

Okay, have you ever seen a ghost? I think I felt one. Can you tell that I never want you to leave? Okay, you felt one. Okay, great. I think I felt. Okay, perfect. The spirit of a ghost.

Do you have a go-to baby present? Money. Just money. Y'all need it. Come on. We all could use it. You know what I mean? Money is like my life.

But hand it to the baby. I do the old school I put something in a car Like the godfather Before the baby Put something at cod You know what I mean And they're like yeah

Yeah Love Oh my God Okay And then lastly What's making you laugh these days Like what do you A video

A show A like is it a friend Are you reading something When you're like When you need a laugh What do you watch Read do where do you go?

Where do you get it? Honestly, with my friends. I'm always having something to talk about. There's something going on. There's something. So I'm a real like, one of my good friends, Ian, we'd be laughing on the phone like nobody's business.

Now, see, you like to talk on the phone with Ian. Yeah, he's good though. Okay. And honestly, it'll be like a 10 minute, you know, it's like, oh, that's not, we don't know, it's not hours because we just be like, oh my gosh, I'm like, I got to go. And I'm like, I got to go, me.

You know, I can't be on the phone. long, boom. And it's like, done. But we are like, how did you guys meet? We met through my other really good friend Courtney. And so Courtney introduced me to Ian, and Ian is just so funny. Shout out to Ian.

He line dances. Like, he line dances at the party. He gets us all together. Fun. He's a party pumper. He is. He's so much fun. So we be cackling, feet kicked back. My sisters also make me laugh. Like, I'm so community. Like, my people, like, we be laughing, cutting up, you know?

Yeah. Kiki, it makes perfect sense because you do that for us. Like I cannot tell you how many years like, you know, I have the pleasure to know you now. But just before I knew you, like you made me, you gave me such joy and you continue

to do that for me all the time. You're so yourself. You're so real. You're so funny. You're so talented. I just love you. Like I literally have to, I'm like so like overstimilar.

I'm like hugging, holding myself because I'm like, oh. Let's do the hundred. Like I'm like, let's just. You were so awesome. Thank you so much for doing this. Same, right back. I mean, Kiki Palmer.

Lauren, Kiki Palmer, the talent of all talents here today. Thanks for being here. Thanks for being here. I love having you. Thank you so much, Kiki. You are, oh, God, I could have talked to you all day. You're so funny and fun to be around and positive and interesting. And the real deal. Kiki Palmer, thanks for joining us.

And, you know, we talked about work and we talked about rest. And for this polar plunge, I just want to point everyone's attention to a very cool woman who speaks about rest, the seven types of rest. We mentioned her in the podcast and she has an interesting TED talk and books about just that. Her name is Dr. Sandra Dalton Smith and her seven types of rest. And it just makes me think about how important it is to find ways to do that, whatever it may be. like for example, me, I don't know, going in my bedroom and sticking my feet under the mattress and putting a sweatshirt over my eyes. But let's not get specific, but you know what I mean.

But we, I hope that this episode and good hang episodes are a way for you to rest. And so rest away. And we will catch you next time. Thanks so much. Bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite.

For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Katz-Villane, Kaya McMullen, and Alea Zanaris. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.