Good Hang with Amy Poehler - Kenan Thompson

Episode Date: September 1, 2026

Kenan Thompson showed up in some Gucci glasses. Amy hangs with the 'SNL' star and talks about what he brought to his role as Toto, over-tapping T.C., and wearing a will.i.am wig while very hungover. ...Host: Amy PoehlerGuests: Maya Rudolph and Kenan ThompsonExecutive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-BermanFor Paper Kite Productions: Executive producer Jenna Weiss-Berman, coordinator Sam Green, and supervising producer Joel LovellFor The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson, Belle Roman, and Aleya Zenieris; lighting director Caroline Jannace; audio producer Kaya McMullen; social producer Bridget Geerlings; video editor Drew van Steenbergen; and bookers Kat Spillane and Paige GarbariniOriginal Music: Amy Miles This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. Stock up on glue sticks, pens, and other back-to-school essentials from your favorite brands for $5 or less on Uber Eats. Order now https://www.ubereats.com/ This episode is brought to you by Subaru. Love goes the extra mile in the Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid and Subaru Forester Hybrid. Visit https://subaru.com/hybrid to learn more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:39 Keenan Thompson today. And we talk about some really fun stuff. We talk about Eddie Murphy and how important he was to both of us. We talk about learning how to ice skate and how it is hard and Keenan is good at it. We talk about how we partied really hard and how we suffered because of it. And we talk about, can I wear sunglasses on the red carpet? Am I allowed? Is that cool? And the answer is no. So we're going to talk to Keenan today. Cannot wait. And before we do, we always check in with somebody who knows our guest, who wants to speak well behind their back, who wants to give me a question to ask them. And that person is world superstar Maya Rudolph. Maya Rudolph joining me today from Zoom. You know, just, I don't know, comedy legend, whatever.
Starting point is 00:01:28 No big deal. Friend of the pod. Let's see what Maya's up to. And check in on that. cutie pie Maya. Woo-hoo. You know those tiny back-to-school emergencies that somehow become your problem? That's where Uber Eats comes in. You can order school supplies, snacks, and lunchbox essentials for $5 or less. So when your kid casually drops, I don't like peanut butter anymore, or I need five green highlighters for a project due tomorrow, Uber Eats has you covered.
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Starting point is 00:02:45 Mine kind of is. I wonder if like Johnny Carson and like Merv Griffin and Dinah Shore if they ever had mugs. You know what I would give for one of those mugs? Right. You know what we were looking?
Starting point is 00:02:58 This is really ADHD and this is going to take us on a completely different tangent. It doesn't matter. You know what we were just looking up this morning? Bicentennial 31 flavors slash Baskin-Robbins Bicentennial ice cream
Starting point is 00:03:13 flavors. And do you know what some of them were? Wait, so just said that this is this is 1976 flavors? 176. Okay. For the bicentennial, 31 flavors,
Starting point is 00:03:27 aka now known as Baskin Robbins, or is it the other way around? I think it's the other way around. Now it's... They don't, they have more than 31. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:38 One of them was called Valley Fudge. Instead of Valley Fudge. Valley four. Valley five. What was another one, Maya? Oh, God. No, I got to look it up again. One was Apple Pieella mode.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yeah, sure. That's cute. Cute. But like, give me value. Give me a four more. Oh, thank you. Minut, men, mint. So stupid.
Starting point is 00:04:08 You know, Gen X has lived, we were alive. I was alive during the bicentennial, and here we are celebrating 250 years, and boy, has America never been better. That's exactly how I feel. Yeah. I mean, when you think about how far we've come. Well, how far we've come and how much we fixed. That should be the slogan. We've fixed a lot.
Starting point is 00:04:37 We're talking to Keenan Thompson today, and I'm so psyched that I'm talking to you because you and Keenan are linked in a lot of ways for me. Like, I think some of my most fun and most tender and funniest moments are watching the two of you perform. Like, you guys really have a connection. How would you explain it? You know when you meet your people and you can't really, you can't really find words for it. So you just feel like you've known the person your whole life. I always feel that when I see Keenan. And I feel like he's always been there and we don't have to say anything.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And it's, there's a, there's a relaxation that comes over me when I, when I see him, when I watch him. Yes. It's like watching an incredible musician. You know that you're in good hands and you can't wait to see what they're going to bring you because you know it's going to be masterful and amazing, but it's also going to fill you with like a joy. Like, it's relaxing. I used to feel that way about watching Prince on stage.
Starting point is 00:05:55 I'd get relaxed because I was like, he can do anything. He can do anything. Keenan, I'm instantly, instantly, like, warmed and already giggling a little bit. There's a twinkle in his eye. that says it all. Yes, Maya, it's so true. There's a twinkle. I have such strong memories of, you know, inviting him into our dirty, dirty office.
Starting point is 00:06:24 You know, sit on the floor on his knees or something. Like, I mean, we lived like disgusting college students, Amy. Yeah. And you too, that was your perch. Yeah, that was the best. Bringing friends into that and giggling till four in the morning. I remember so clearly writing stuff with him
Starting point is 00:06:47 if I bring it up now I'll probably get cancelled what we were writing but it was so fun and all we did was laugh all we did was laugh like listening to songs and finding the little tiny minute things
Starting point is 00:07:01 and then going in and laughing I mean a great example of that is one of my favorite characters and sketches at us and I'll ever which is T.T. and Mario. So for people that didn't ever watch Titi and Mario, how would you explain who T.T. and Mario were?
Starting point is 00:07:18 It's great. Thank you for asking me. T.T. and Mario is a duo from your childhood past that is so, they sing the most beautiful love zones that are so raunchy and disgusting. They think they're very loving. Yes, they're romantic. They're married couple with children. They've been together. for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:07:43 And sometimes, one might say that sometimes they need the music to make things fun again. And what I love about them is they always start so beautiful and so romantic. And then maybe 10 or 15 seconds in, they start talking about each other's booty and how tight it is. Yeah, there's a lot of booty play involved. And T.T. and Mario serenaded you in the hospital. That's right. When Archie was born. That's right.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I want to talk to Keenan about it. it was so, it was like if I could have picked two, I couldn't have picked two better people when I was in a postpartum haze to be singing at me from my TV. Then you guys, it's funny, I'm excited to interview Keenna because there's a lot I actually don't know about him. He's, he's more of a coyote. More of a coyote. He's more of a, he's more of an observer and a mirror than he is sometimes. a sharer. Do you have any questions for me today that you would like to hear Kiki talk about? I mean, we're different ages in terms of like our influences, but he was so like well formed
Starting point is 00:08:54 when we met him. Like I want to know what he was doing. I know he was performing as a young person, but like how did that, how did that get in there as like, oh, I know when I'm when I'm big, I'm going to be this. Like, how did those influences create the Kenan that we know? Because I feel like he came out like this. I can't imagine him any other way. I also just want to know, like, I know you're going to ask him about, like, how do you keep it fresh, Kenan? Totally. I mean, I'm so curious about, like,
Starting point is 00:09:29 what do you not go to or do anymore? I mean, after 22 years of the show. Oh, my God. Like, you know. How have you, like, bypassed? Yeah. How does the system work? for you. Yeah, I'm curious. I feel like he might actually be experiencing like the like the dream of S&L because if you've been there long enough to be like, hey guys, I'm going to have to go this way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:56 It's probably the dream. I know. It's probably why would you ever leave? It's so fun. If you ever like he figured it out. Yeah, he cracked the code and I want to know what he cracked. I think there's gold behind those doors. But like little Kenan is always what I think about.
Starting point is 00:10:16 And I'm also, and I didn't know Little Keenan. And I'm curious, like, I guess I equate it to when we were little, like we would do plays in our living room and things like that. Like, was he just the guy who made his friends laugh? Was he the guy who was like, because he's always been so steady and so funny. Yeah. And it feels like, like, where does that charm? come from. Okay, so I'm going to ask Keenan about Little Kiki, which we all know. Little Keenan is probably the cutest kid we've ever seen. On earth, like hands down. And because I like
Starting point is 00:10:50 knowing if that person knew that that person was going to be the person we know today. And I feel like it's a yes. I feel like that guy always knew. I feel that way about you too, Maya. Like, I feel like seeing Little Maya on a home movie, like singing into a microphone. you knew that too that's all I wanted I just wanted a microphone and the laugh with my friends yeah
Starting point is 00:11:16 and look at you guys singing together about putting whipped cream on each other's business that's all I want for America for them to put whipped cream on each other's business all we want is for Valley Fudge
Starting point is 00:11:30 to make a comeback honestly yeah don't you love this angle I mean I picked a great angle my neck looks like you actually look great. What is it say in your shirt? Oh, Rory's place.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Oh, it's my favorite restaurant in my high. Maya just dropped the phone down her shirt by accident. Oopsie. Yeah, exactly. Oh, no. Oh, no, it fell down my pants. Do you kids want to see what happens when my phone fall? I feel like relaxed and smiling because we're talking about Keenan. You know what I mean? Totally. I love you. Love you. Bye, Mama, thanks. Bye. This episode is brought to you by Subaru. There's something about being on the road that has a way of leading to those unexpectedly memorable little moments.
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Starting point is 00:13:04 How are you? doing. Are you going to wear your sunglasses the whole time? I'm not. I knew that would be a thing. Well, no, because I was going to say I'll put some on too if it would make you like it. I don't have any, but I could wear some. I would like them off because I want to see your beauties. Of course. It's good to see you. I just feel
Starting point is 00:13:21 cool when I wear them. I do too. I feel cool. Okay, what did you mean? But look at this. Come on. Okay, let me explain it. That is for you. Keenan brought me a pizza, a slice of cheese pizza. I think it's an artistic expression of the pizza rat. Oh, it's pizza rat. I think so.
Starting point is 00:13:40 There's a rat riding, a slicer. This is the first time I've had a fake food that moves, like in any way. This is great. And it almost reflects us, because I feel like we're such fun kind of like life lovers of like a good time. It just reminds me of like us as characters. Keenan. Enjoy. And then you have to kind of.
Starting point is 00:14:04 You gotta get it going. Well, here we go. You just pull it back a little bit. For those listening, we're pulling it back. And then it goes. We'll pull it back a little stronger. Come on. And you can't break it.
Starting point is 00:14:17 So long story short, I went shopping and I thought of you. I saw it and I thought of you. And I've been holding on to it before I even know I was booked on here. No way, Keenan. Just fingers crossed hoping that one day I would get to come sit in the throne. Okay, well, I'm going to put it on. Oh, my God. You know, we got to add it.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Thank you, Jenna. I'm going to put this on my wall. Oh, look at the placement. Front and center placement. That is, that's Super Bowl placement. That's Super Bowl. That is... You're going to pay a lot of money for that placement.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Oh, man, the best. Keenan Thompson is here. Hi. How are you doing? I'm great. You're doing this on both coasts? Yeah, we get to do it in L.A. and New York, which is the best. You just get to do it wherever you are.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yeah, and convenient for, like, guesting people, I'm guessing. Yeah, really can be in. Good job. Congrats on the golden. Who gets a gold for a podcast? No one does. Exactly. That's why you're such a gangster.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Exactly. That's amazing. Congrats to everyone, you guys. That's really cool. Congrats to podcasting. Yeah, way to go podcast. Come on Spotify. Do you have a podcast, right?
Starting point is 00:15:23 I did a podcast for a long time with a buddy of mine. Yeah. What was it about? It was just two black guys existing in America. You know what I mean? With a love of like, you know, Hollywood and stuff like that. So, you know, he's kind of a director. Yeah, I listen to podcasts.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I listen to yours. I just caught up with the Lonely Island because I did a guest appearance because of the Reba episode. Yeah. And then I was like, wait a minute, let me look at how long they've been doing this. And I went back to the beginning. And it is a long ride. And God bless those guys for just showing up. And they're so funny.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Showing up, barely showing up. Barely showing up. It's hard to get all four of them on the line. Oh, it rarely happens. And it's such a treat. Totally. But they're coming through, like, such good memories, you know. I know.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I felt the same way. It was, like, really good to go back in time. And we have so much to talk about Keenan because we were on the show together for a lot, like six years. Six years, which now is, was the big, it was like the first six miles of your marathon, basically. Yeah. When did you depart? I left in 2008. Yeah, it was like a five year because I started in 03, so.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Well, I mean, getting to work with you Some of my most favorite times And I want to talk to you about it today Because you're so attached To so many important moments in my life Thank you. And likewise. Like I talk about my sisters all the time. Like I consider y'all like, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:48 such to like get out of my room kind of like But also like straighten up and don't come like playing games. That's why I was like I was ready to take my sunglasses off. It's not a game. I'm like your bossy-older sister. Let me just analyze. Are you going to keep those on the whole time? Are you going to wear your sunglasses to mom's birthday?
Starting point is 00:17:08 Yeah. Yeah. You're so right. We do have a very, there is a very sisterly quality with you and a lot of the women that you performed with during my time. Yeah. And then you've, like, you've gone, your family dynamic at SNL has changed from, like, younger brother to, like, elder statesmen. I'm like grandpa at this point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Yeah. Yeah, I'm Gramsy. Hey, Graham, Grams. Good morning. Everyone's like, shh, Grandpa's feet. I know. Grandbram is sleeping. Grandpa's feet.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Grandpa's feet hurt. Don't tell us. Let's just do less for grandpa. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to take you back in a little time machine to little Keenan. Because the teeny tini-tiniest little version of Keenan knew pretty early that he wanted to be a performer. You're one of three kids. you're the middle.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah, but my sister's my half-sister. Okay, got it. Just for technicality sake. Got it. That's why we were 14 years apart. Okay. So were you then, were you the baby then? I was the baby.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Okay, that makes more sense. Yeah. That makes more sense. Just reckless and fearless, you know, and just a strange, like, you know, kind of ignorant confidence, if you will, you know what I mean? Do you remember the very beginning? I feel like a lot of performers have this feeling,
Starting point is 00:18:25 like they remembered that sparkle that they got when they got like attention or looked at. Do you remember that, like, early time? I mean, I talk about it all the time. It was the gingerbread man, you know, like in kindergarten. Yeah. I'm like in the graduating play, but like I was a gingerbread man. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:41 Like, I wasn't the stove. Yeah. So it wasn't awakening because in rehearsal, it was just like learn these lines and like this got to do this thing or whatever. But once I saw people there, and then I recognized my mom and my mom was smiling. And, you know, she was so happy and, like, excited. And it just made me, like, perform. more and then like, you know, the audio of hearing laughter, like after something I said, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:19:03 oh, wow, what is this? Totally. I can remember that feeling too. Like the feeling of just like getting, feeling a little bit taller when you were, when people were looking at you. I mean, look at us and that. We're still just fishing for laughs constantly. It feels so good.
Starting point is 00:19:18 It's so embarrassing, I know. God bless. But it's so true because, and I read that you were, you were a toto and that's what I'm saying. I got really hooked on trying to do something that gains laughter. I just wanted to put those away because they were OCDing me a little bit. First of all, these glasses are gorgeous. Thank you. Those are Gucci glasses.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Of course they are. And I get it now. I get it what you mean about being able to talk behind the sunglasses. Yeah. Do you think I could pull off, and we'll get to your life. Eye contact is intense. Eye contact is intense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:54 And you can pull off anything. No, but you can pull off sunglasses on the red carpet, right? That's cool as shit. I have made it a thing to where, like, I'm just fine with if they're mad about it or not, because I feel like Jack was the coolest and he never took his sunglasses off. And I'm like, that means you don't have to. But wouldn't it look like I just recently had eye surgery if I was like. Only in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Right. And then you make it a thing. Once it's a thing, it's just like, oh, that's her artistic expression or whatever kind of, like, excuse you can get away with. You're so right. Okay. I just want to get back toto for a second. You played Toto. I played Toto because all the parts were taken.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And I was like, well, nobody's going to be the dog. And this is a church play on the south side of Atlanta. I'm sure we didn't have many, like, terriers to choose from. So I was like, I'll do the dog. Like, why not? I just wanted to be down. There's a lot of people I've talked to that have been in the Wizard of Oz in different ways. What did you bring to the role?
Starting point is 00:20:59 Well, this was the whiz. Oh, excuse me. It was fantastic. It was even more fun. Yes, the music and everything. And I brought tenderness to the role when Dorothy needed it. I remember, like, cuddling up to her and, like, the whole church being in it. You know, there's a small, like, maybe like 100 people, maybe something like that.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And to feel all of them acknowledged my performance in that way was, like, Yeah, it's addicting, you know? Yeah. And then like there's a moment where everybody, like, runs to the back of the church when the scene is over to set for the next scene. And, like, I've been crawling around on all four, so they left me. And I was just like, oh, snap, like, they're all going. And I can't go.
Starting point is 00:21:37 So I stood up as a dog and ran. And that got a laugh. I was just like fucking swinging on that one. I love it. I don't mean to be, like, comparing your story to mind. But I had a similar experience. I was Dorothy. We had a real dog.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Yeah. And there's a moment in the scene where Dorothy's supposed to have a tornado. Like the tornado is supposed to come and she's supposed to go, Toto, Toto, where are you? But I was holding the dog. I was like, this is,
Starting point is 00:22:06 we didn't go over this part. So I put the dog down, walked a few feet away. And I said, Toto, Toto, where are you? Big laugh. Huge laugh. Because everybody watched you process that
Starting point is 00:22:17 and you stuck with it and committed to like continuing the work. Like, man, improv is the greatest, coolest thing I wish I would have gone to one of the schools for. I know. You have, you, you, you feel like, like, from that era, from that, like, style and family. Yeah. And did you know any actors growing up? No.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Not at all. It was such a distant dream. The best I would have thought would be, like, a commercial, like a national, like a public, you know, when I was starting to book those in the beginning, you know, Sonic, like, whatever. Yeah. Like, I thought that was kind of the, you know, the mountain I would be on. And was it your mom that was taking you those mostly? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:57 And she was just like down. My mom's so dedicated. She got a job at the Alliance Theater School so I could take classes. She got like a side gig there, like, as a, like, answering the phone or like some kind of like office assistant, you know what I mean? So I could take classes at a discount or whatever it was. Like the acting thing, I just, I just loved it. You loved it. I mean, the theme, I feel like of today's talk and you, Keenan, is like, you, you've,
Starting point is 00:23:20 feel like everywhere you arrive, like, is the, like, timing is so important in your life career and in the way you perform. I think you have the best timing of anyone I've ever worked with. Oh, thank you. Your timing is incredible. The way you know how to play moments and the way you know how to play life, because life is its own game. You have to figure out how to play.
Starting point is 00:23:44 And I'm just in awe of your timing. Oh, man. And so. I guess I'm the second one to start crying. Shout out to Seth. Cry, cry. Oh my God, Seth. So easy to get that guy.
Starting point is 00:23:55 The best. The best. But because of that, I look at your life and your career, which is still, we're in the middle of it. We're not. But like, and the way in which wherever you are was where you were supposed to be at the time. And weirdly enough, it's always felt that way. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:12 Like, I've never been, like, overly personal. Like, the SNL audition was extreme. But, like, on the way to that, for some reason, everything felt done. already. Like, I already have this job. Like, I already have made my friends, you know, before I even, like, met all that cast. I was just like, I feel like this is mine to do kind of thing. Yes. Yes. It was like, that's exactly right, Kenan. It's like, it feels like every opportunity for you felt like you were meeting the opportunity when it was meeting you. And when you were, I mean, you were, you were on TV when you were, what, 11, 12, doing like movie
Starting point is 00:24:50 reviews. That was like a real job. Yeah. Like when I first like was dipping my toe in the water, we would like kids going along with the news anchored to this new like exhibit at the zoo. Like it was like about dinosaurs and they did like a little mini special about that. Like that was like
Starting point is 00:25:08 the beginning. So I was like this is just playtime. We could be in the zoo after hours. Kind of like that's cool. Right. But like real news for kids I was like oh snap I have like an ID badge. Like I get to like tap it. A little briefcase. To have that so young, it just pointed me confidently in the direction of like, this is kind of what I feel like I should be doing. And then all kind of kismet stuff started happening. Like, my first review was the first Mighty Ducks movie.
Starting point is 00:25:33 No way. Like almost a year to the day I got to audition for the second one and ended up, like, making it in. And then the director knew the producers from the Nickelodeon shows. And they, like, connected me to that. So that audition, I was real cocky. You were like, hey, guys. Hey, old friends. What do you need?
Starting point is 00:25:53 You need a Jamaican? I got you. It's interesting because you look young. You still look young. Thank you. Isn't it nice to now, that's a compliment? And likewise is what we're supposed to be saying. Well, I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Maybe with the sunglasses on. Put the glasses on. Put the glasses. Would it be weird if I wore those glasses a cane and like a boot and went to a red carpet? Well, that's when people are starting to worry. Yeah, and like a wrist, like one of those. They're like, what, did she fall down on the beach? and half my face is sunburned.
Starting point is 00:26:26 But you, but you had a, you have and had a baby face, but you definitely had a poise of someone much older than you. Like, I'm curious if you've always felt your age. I mean, a lot of kids who are acting at a young age, especially like making money for their family and being around adults most of the time, but you had the kind of pleasure and privilege of working on a show with a bunch of other kids. Yes. So you were with people your own age pretty much.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Yes. Do you feel older or younger than your age? Like, what is your soul age? I've always felt like an old man. Like, I feel like I came right from something that happened in the 70s and I stayed kind of like connected to the 70s. And I don't want to like, it's my favorite era. And like, yeah, I feel like Torres energy just, you know, capitalizes on that.
Starting point is 00:27:17 And I'm very relaxed and just chill and like. Don't want to be that. Not too loud. Please. Everybody just, everybody settle down. Please. Like, I can't handle it. Like, when people like loud talk me in restaurants and it's just love.
Starting point is 00:27:31 But when they shout my name, I'm like, please. Yeah, you don't like that. I know that about you. And your influences were like that too. Like Richard and Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy. Just the black, zaggotte, zeitgeist, basically. Yeah. Of that era and then onward.
Starting point is 00:27:49 And then, of course, as I got older. looking backwards and learning your history kind of stuff. But I love like, you know, the black exploitation era and like diving back into those sounds and those words and like having fun with it. Because it's like, you know, playing in your dad's clothes, basically. Yes. Did you guys watch as a family, like stuff together? Were you a laughing family?
Starting point is 00:28:12 Like were you a comedy family? My dad is the joker for sure. Really? He's the joke teller and he does really well. He's like a room pleaser when he does that. I remember like at my grandmother's house, he would have my grandma like almost like peeing her pants, like literally. And this is my mom's mom, you know what I mean? So he really doing a dance kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Is he a frustrated performer? I don't know. He's a, he's a Gemini. So I think he does a lot of things well. So, you know, he was like he drove like NASCAR kind of cars. He was in the military. He was a mechanic, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:47 You know, amazing, like real estate person. Like, made history in Atlanta for kind of desegregating, like, listings and stuff like that. Really? Yeah. So, like, he's a very cool dude. And on top of that, yeah, loves to tell a joke. And then my mom has this, like, secretive kind of sense of humor, like a little prissy, because she's, like, the older, she's the oldest of seven, you know, and they come from kind of,
Starting point is 00:29:16 it's actually called Forest Virginia. So you can imagine there's lots of trees there. Not a whole lot of buildings. So she comes from literally the forest and, like, kind of had to be a little more, like, suited and booted. But, yeah, she has this, like, sneaky little laugh where it's just like, oh, you like to laugh at the naughty. Look at you being naughty kind of thing. So for me, I have a little bit of both, but I'm not really like a room gatherer unless it's like a fixed performance. No, you're not.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Like, you're not looking to win the room. Yeah, no. No. I mean, I would say that my experience with you is that you are a little bit more of a three-point shooter. like you wait for your time and you like to observe. You like to see how people are playing. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:29:54 I like to Steph Curry it a little bit. And like when it's time to turn it on and just like take over the game. And you shoot it. You do like a no look on your way out. Oh yeah. Like I know that's going in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Yeah, yeah. It's definitely your style. And it's rare to have like a career before you reach SNL. Yes. Like and not always helpful. No. It hadn't gone well.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I don't think for anyone at that point. I was like, I just want to do whatever because this writing thing freaks me out. So you guys tell me what you want. And it took five years before I wrote something that was like my idea. On the show? Scared straight was like the first thing that actually made it on the show, if you will. Well, you know, we brought up Eddie Murphy and I want to talk about what it was like to do that sketch at the 50th. But what's your early memories of Eddie Murphy?
Starting point is 00:30:40 Because for me, I'm older than you, but not by much. But enough that when I was watching SNL, when I started watching SNL, it was Eddie's. year. He was 18, 19. Same. When do you remember me, when seeing him. But that was kind of me watching from down the hall when I wasn't supposed to still be awake kind of stuff. You know what I mean? And I remember hearing Hot Tub before I actually was able to watch it. Right. You know, just like trying to just be, and I just remember being in PJs, you know what I mean? And like watching my dad just like laugh. I think he was still like my mom was
Starting point is 00:31:14 asleep. He was just like the only person up. How's it dark? And you just see that like blue. flashing air, the glow. And like, yeah. Isn't it funny you have memories as a little kid of like when your parents would laugh really hard at something? It was like you would look at them like, what happened? What happened? What's funny? And it just imprints on your brain immediately then forever what you think is funny.
Starting point is 00:31:35 It was always fun getting to a place where like we could share laughter together in the same sort of sense of humor like with my dad. You know what I mean? Like once we started like quoting coming to America to each other and like. Certain moments. It was just such a dynamically fun time because it was like our little thing. You know, like we played pool. We quote coming to America.
Starting point is 00:31:57 You know what I mean? And it's like a dad and two brothers, basically. It's really cool. It's kind of like when you're saying like that it's reminding me that like for some families, comedy is sports. Like that's how you connect. Is you talk about what you think is funny.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And like, and I know that you loved Eddie. I know that you love Richard Pryor. And you also love Chris Farley, who you got to work with. Can you tell us about that? And Jim Carrey. And, oh, and Jim Carrey. Super duper fan of Jim Carrey. And I emulate him, I think, more probably than anybody as far as, like, microperforming goes.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Like, I feel like he performs every possible, like, syllable kind of thing in his physical body. It's wild to watch. But Farley is just a full buffalo. You know what I mean? And like he was just so dynamically funny, not just falling down funny. Like he had some quips that were incredible. Yeah. And sometimes his performances were just like he's the only one that can do that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:33:03 So he came to all that and did that. Like it was the greatest day I've ever seen because I was like, that's a true pro. That's somebody that doesn't need because they would tell us and rehearse us a lot because we were kids kind of thing. he came in and didn't need any instruction at all. He was playing a ketchup chef that likes to put ketchup on everything. And, of course, my character likes to put chocolate on everything. So it was a battle. And they had this eight-layer chocolate cake because we were celebrating something or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:34 And, you know, Nickelodeon likes to make a mess, but they like to shoot up until right before the mess and stop and, like, do that part a few times to make sure they got it, if you will. Right. And they really politely asked him, like. Please. And, you know, take one after we got, and we got to that point, destroyed that cake. Like, it was nothing. Like, I think on purpose, because they tried to tell him to do something. And he, like, beat the cake up to where there was, like, there's no way we're doing a second take of this.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Jumped in the car, jumped in a limousine, and was gone. Like, they have showers. You're like, we got showers really. I'm fine. Cald off a little bit, still catch up in his hair and was out of there. And I was like, now that's a gangster. That's a professional gangster. And so damn funny.
Starting point is 00:34:23 And so nice. So nice. So nice. Never fronted on me for being a kid or anything. Just came in and we was like, let's get to it kind of thing. You know, I think I'm sure every young person feels this way. They remember the people that like treated them like peers when they were feeling when they were. and they remember the people that were dismissive of them when they were young.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Because we really do act, especially with young people, like they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Or like, we're always doing that to them. And like I have a problem with like people's boundaries. Like I learn hard lessons with that because I'm just very like outgoing and kind of like, we're fine with this, right? You're fine if I just keep tapping you on the shoulder like you know me kind of thing. And some people put you in your place and you're like, hey man, stop tapping me. And I was like, oh, snap.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Like, I'm sorry I crossed that line, T-C. Like, Magnum P-I-T-C. I was so excited to be next to him, you know what I mean? Like, that's what Nickelodeon did. It put us, you know, in proximity to a lot of very famous people kind of thing. I was just overly excited. I'm like, isn't this great, my man? Look at this.
Starting point is 00:35:29 This is an awesome thing. He's like, hey, man, stop tapping me. And I was like, oh, oh, my God. I overtap T-C. But what you're talking about is, just like straight up like etiquette on set that a lot of people when they arrive at SNL not only have not ever been like on TV but often have never been on any kind of set. And there is an etiquette to your point how you approach people, how you, how like how to be a
Starting point is 00:35:59 professional. And like I, Keenan, you are such a professional in the way you approach your work and the way you deal with people. You're really, really smart. And you've, you have a a lot of experience and you could feel it immediately when you arrived at S&L. But when you think back on those early days of learning about what it was like to be on a set, what was like the things that you learned, what were some like takeaways that you still think about, like, what you try to bring to other sets? First, thank you for all of that. Second, free stuff was the first thing I noticed. I was like, I'm in the right spot. I'm in the right spot. I, I knew it.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I knew if the price was right was doing it, I knew everybody was doing some version of that, whether it was snacks or drinks or whatever, whatever I needed to ask for it. A little Wendy's, little bacon cheeseburger meal. Can I get that? I'm like, absolutely. You can get that.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Don't even take your wallet out. Fantastic. I'll do whatever. We'll be here 19 hours. You know, how many more time? You want to jump in the lake? Am I supposed to jump in the lake? Whatever.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Yeah. And that was definitely like a check, check that box, but also the size of things. Like when I got on the Mighty Ducks and saw like a movie set and all these trailers and like so many clothes for everyone. I'm like, what are all these clothes for? All the different scenes in the movie, they got to wear different clothes. I'm like different clothes. That's crazy. Oh, it's a lot of pressure.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Super pressure. I didn't know how to escape. Okay, let's talk about Mighty Ducks because you are one of my, you. You're one of my friends that skate the best. Thank you. You're an incredible ice skater. A lot of people don't know this. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:37:45 And I pride myself with that because it's not like a big known thing amongst the black community to just ice skate like that. You know, like there's only certain people that do it. There's only certain couple few people in, you know, in the NHL or whatever kind of thing. You know, New Yorkers or people in cold climates kind of do it around Christmas time kind of thing. Just, you know, kind of like going bowling, if you will. I remember. I have a very clear memory. to get good at his heart.
Starting point is 00:38:12 And I have a very clear memory. They used to let us at Christmas shows at SNL. It's the best. Do they do that anymore? They haven't done it. Damn. They've got to do it. They used to let us, I mean, talk about free stuff, talk about perks.
Starting point is 00:38:26 On the Christmas show, we'd be like, good night. And then they'd cut to like maybe a bumper. And we'd all get to run downstairs. What would we do? Gotta get there. There would be like a golf cart all of a sudden inside the hallway sometimes, like for people just like zip down there. Some people would be down there already. But if you're in that final thing, kind of thing, and then we would wave good nights on the ice.
Starting point is 00:38:46 And we'd be in the Rockefeller on the ice rink. Underneath the Christmas tree. Yeah, at Rockefeller Center. And just us at one o'clock in the morning. And I go down there and I see Kenan. And Keenan is you are skating forward, skating backwards, skating sideways, doing the thing to shoot in the moon. What are you doing? Doing 45 million tricks. Thank you. And then I was like, duh. Because I was fresh off of learning it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So how hard was it to live? learned for you. Very.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Because I remember, like, I was just talking about this the other day, like, roller skating and going to, like, roller skating rinks is what we had in Atlanta. Yeah. Like, I was busting my ass constantly. You know what I mean? As a kid, but you don't feel anything as a kid. You know, I just feel the knots later kind of thing. But I remember, like, both feet up falling all the time, you know, like, all the time.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Yeah. So, sure, I put it on my resume under special skills that I could roller skate or something, like, roller skating, you know? But, like, I never in a million years considered hockey. I wanted to learn, but after that first day of hockey camp, which was on my birthday, my 15th birthday, I wanted to quit it all. Oh, I bet. I was like, I want to be an actor. I want to be an actor.
Starting point is 00:39:53 If this is what it's about, like, thank God my mom, didn't let me quit. She was like, no, go back tomorrow. Kept going back and back in, like, eight weeks on both movies. You learn how to skate. Yeah. Do you skate? Do you find ways to skate now? Do you look for it?
Starting point is 00:40:09 Yeah, it's great. Skating with the family, you know what I mean, at Christmas time. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. They both are good little skaters. They are. Do you watch any ice skating during Olympics?
Starting point is 00:40:20 Yeah, I mean, I watched the figure skating, yeah. I watched the girl with the three-tiered, you know, kind of hairdo. Yeah, Alyssa Liu. Is that her, yes. I know she's from Oakland area. Yeah. How dope was that? Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Unbelievable. Just because of how casual she is. Yes. And like she's just chilling, but like the thing she can do on the ice, bro, I give her all the medals. Like, it was wild to watch. Well, she. That in hockey, I guess. She reminds me of when you perform because she was very relaxed and you get, and like when we're watching her, we're like, she's good, she's good.
Starting point is 00:40:57 And the nerves, like if you can figure out how to channel your nerves. Oh, man. So what were your nerves like when you were auditioned? for Estenal, you're 23, which is still really, I mean, in the context of the show, I guess it's not so young, but just feels so young. When I watch your audition on SNL, there's a small moment that is, Sandberg did it too when he auditioned, where you take a moment before you start and you go, oh, my God, SNL. You said it, like, to yourself.
Starting point is 00:41:33 And Samberg had a similar moment where he was just like, you could tell he was like, well, But it was very inviting. It was not like this person is like cannot handle their nerves. It was, it felt like what you do so well, which is you like zapped yourself to the present moment. You're like, here I am. I'm here. Yeah. And it's like I have to call it out because if I don't, it would be like it didn't happen kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:41:58 So I have to like put it in the words that like I recognize that this is crazy. It feels like also just a way to secretly kind of. quiet your nerves. Like, just to be, say it. Finally putting that seatbelt on. Like, remember in Fight Club when he's just like, you know what? I'm just going to get crazy with this and let this stare and we'll go. I'm just going to let it go.
Starting point is 00:42:22 And I just like let my mind just start rambling. It's so, my audition is so rambly. It's crazy. I mean, it's not. And I think I've told you this story, but I watched your audition from a, we were filming mean girls. Did I tell you this story? I've told you this story.
Starting point is 00:42:40 And Lorne had the auditions. He was watching them on the plane. Private. Private. PJ. We know somebody that got money. Our friend got money. And probably the first time I had ever flown private.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I don't even remember, but I remember. And it was during Mean Girls and we must have been flying back from the set because Tina was there. And Lauren was there. And Lindsay Loewo was there. Incredible. And we watched your audition. That's crazy. And we were all like, he's incredible.
Starting point is 00:43:13 And Lindsay was like, I love him. And I remember. And I think at the time you probably already had the job. But it was, the one thing I remember, more than the content, which you realize very fast, nobody cares about the content. Like you think the content, the jokes, everything is so important. You can have the best written material in the fucking world. you get the best jokes in the world. If people don't feel like relaxed, happy to see you,
Starting point is 00:43:42 drawn to you for whatever reason, it just, it doesn't work. It's like, it's this crazy chemistry thing. The craziest part of casting. Yeah. Like, casting is such a, like, shout out to, you know, casting people that, like, do it well because it takes a whole lot of, like, well, thanks for coming in, but, you know, we'll get back to you. and like being able to, they're like nurses.
Starting point is 00:44:07 You know, just give you, help you through the awful news. We're going to give you a shot. It's going to hurt. Yeah. Or like, let's try that again. Yeah. And this time do everything different. Oh, I mean, yeah, they're like, maybe this time try to be like a normal person in the world.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Like what a normal person would. Yeah, oh, that's a good note. And then you do it and you still like didn't like check those boxes. Did you have fun? Yeah. This episode is presented by Amex. You know that move where you refresh a ticket page over and over like somehow your persistence is going to impress the internet? We've all done it during meetings, waiting in line, while recording this, maybe.
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Starting point is 00:45:37 surfed the last 23 years? I think in the beginning I became friendly to the process of it. Like I became a friendly, useful, like, tool, if you will. So, like, all kinds of people would, like, write for me because I was able to deliver. Nobody gave us this rule, but, and I'm sure you now tell people this. But if I could go back and tell people one thing, it would be try to do as well as you can and anything you're given. Yep. that simple thing gets people to just,
Starting point is 00:46:12 because everyone's nervous. Give me one word. Yeah. Or half a line. I love it. Yeah. What have you changed about how you interact with the job, how you've made the system work for you?
Starting point is 00:46:25 Yeah, I don't let it just keep me out anymore. It used to keep us out. Well, Keenan and I have had, Keenan and I have seen some. It's one of my favorite stories ever of us doing that bit. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Please tell us. Okay. Okay, let's tell this story. I totally... I need a drink. Let's take a drink break. Okay, so I'll start it. Keenan and I...
Starting point is 00:46:44 Okay. This was a different time. Before we had children. This was a different time before we had children. So we would go out a lot, Keenan and I and all of us would party a lot. Yeah, we would hang out. And we would hang out. It's New York very excited about being in New York.
Starting point is 00:46:57 And so there was a night of many nights, but there was a particular night where I was out too late. Yes. This is before I understood the sketch. I was just like hanging out. I didn't. I was still. And we were at a place called Bungalow 8. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Shout out to those kind of. Shout out to Rashida. Shout out to Rashida. Look, Rashida Jones turned always, my beautiful wife, turned me on to so many aspects of life. Literally the greatest. And she'd be like, hey, I'm hosting this club thing. And I'd be like, oh my God, what time? One a.m. sounds great.
Starting point is 00:47:36 I mean, what the. We're there. And like it doesn't close like the other places. Like it can kind of just stay open a little later. And then when you walk in, it's like, oh, you know. Bring an Amazon rainforest. And it's time to listen to music and drinks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:52 And like T.I. is here. Lots of people. Yeah. Lots of people in the building. So we went to Bungalow 8 and I was there and all of a sudden, guess who comes in later than me is Keenan. Yeah. Keenan comes strolling in. Strolling. And we had.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Somewhere. We had a 6 a.m. call. I probably had a 6 a.m. You may be a little bit later because ladies have a lot. It was first thing in the morning. We had to be up maybe two or three hours later to play. The Black Eye Piece. It was fantastic.
Starting point is 00:48:22 And I had to get in full, you know, spray tan as for a gig. I had a whole lot of wiggage to be where I am. Heavy-ass dreads. Heavy dreads. And it was, the host was John Heater. Okay. Who did not stay out late that night. No.
Starting point is 00:48:38 He was ready. Yeah, he didn't have an issue at all. But he's like Mormon, isn't he? He's Mormon, so he just chilled. Yeah, he chilled. He was a responsible person. He was responsible and he chilled. And he didn't even have caffeine.
Starting point is 00:48:49 That's how I was. And back then, those shoots used to be 10,000 miles away. I had not slept. You had not slept. Who else was in it? Who was our? I want to say Forte. Forte.
Starting point is 00:49:01 I just remember Forte like laying on a very hard floor. We were so hung over. Face down. and could not move or talk. And literally, they stopped traffic in the middle of a New Jersey highway. Yeah, for us to pretend to be the black eyepiece. And it was like, and rolling.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Like 10, 9 a.m. Like rush hour. And people were just like, what is that? Yeah. You had to be frigate. I'm going to fuck with my heart. And we had to dance. And Keenan was doing a bit that I will never forget,
Starting point is 00:49:32 which is he was taking phone calls from his past self, pretending to tell him to go home. Yes. Like, you are being unkind to yourself, sir. He's like, Keenan, this is Keenan. You got to go home. Yeah, what are you doing, man? You know, you know you have to get it where this is not good. Put it down. When you started, you mentioned this earlier, you and Jost were, what are your memories of being, of you and Joe's sharing an office? It was the best because we were so dynamically different, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:50:02 You know, like him coming from, like, Harvard and Staten Island and, like, me coming from, like, the south side of Atlanta. kind of thing. And, like, I didn't finish, I went to Santa Monica City College, you know, so I didn't even really get too far down to, like, college, college, like, sharpness road, you know?
Starting point is 00:50:19 So, like, I was still, like, high school educated, in my opinion. I learned a lot from me. We shared an office for eight years. Yeah. Yeah, because other offices would open up, but, like, we enjoyed that office so much and, like, I think being together so much
Starting point is 00:50:33 and then scared straight was born from that, you know, kind of stuff. And, like, I learned a lot. Talk about full circle, Keenan. And like, you see your fan of Eddie, you write scared straight. Forget about it. Colin, and then you do it with him at the 50th. What does that feel like?
Starting point is 00:50:48 Shout out to those guys. Like, shout out to people that are like, like, Colin and Che are both like that. And I shout to Chee out so much because a lot of my favorite stuff that is like very silly and black and really, really smart, you know, is coming from him sharply, like Black Jeopardy and stuff like that. And when you and. Eddie did it for the 50th, what, what do you remember? But what was the little special twinkly magic moment when you did that? What did it feel like? So at the 40th was the night before was the first time I met Eddie. You know what I mean? And he just came to that like toast to Lauren in the rainbow room. So everything was like very New York magical because it was like in the sky. And he emerged
Starting point is 00:51:29 from a separate elevator from everybody else. And I'm like, of course. He has his, you know, specific way. And, like, I was like, that's really cool. I couldn't contain myself. And he recognized, you know what I mean? He was like, hey, man. Like, I was like, oh, my God, this is amazing. So fast forward to the 50th.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Colin suggests we do a scared straight and put him in it. You know, he had hosted, which was the greatest show ever when, you know, he hosted for Christmas time. And then back to Che put me in that monologue with him, Chris Rock Tracy and Dave Chappelle, like, what an epic picture. I'll keep it for forever. So at the 50th, they're talking about doing a scare. I'm like, I wasn't even planning on, I didn't know what to do because everything was
Starting point is 00:52:13 so last minute, you know what I mean? So I just heard that they wanted to do this. And I'm like, they're down to do this? I couldn't believe it. Like, Eddie and the goat, Will Ferrell? Like, bro, like, Will Ferrell is a greatest cast member we've had ever, I think, in many people's opinion. Yeah. So for them to be in my little baby sketch was unreal. That's so cool. Unreal. Yeah. Yeah. I felt that. I felt like I felt like you were a peer and a fan at the same time
Starting point is 00:52:42 with them. Super. You are a peer to them. Thank you. You realizing that moment was special is kind of like going back to our theme, which is you were really present in the moment. And the other thing I'm just going to say about you, Keenan. I just eat too much a humble pie to like not feel like. like a little kid looking at his hero kind of thing. Well, that's what I mean is, you know, okay, do you ever watch a show alone? I talk about it all the time on here, but it's a, okay, alone is a, is a, it's kind of like an adventure reality show, and it's about people who are dropped off in the wilderness, they have to survive by themselves and whoever stays the longest alone, and they all have
Starting point is 00:53:18 to hunt and fish and gather and all this stuff. Yeah. But what you realize is the people that last the longest are not the ones that celebrate the hardest. And they're not the ones that take the losses so personally. They stay somewhat relatively even. You bag a moose week one, you're not going to bag it every week. Right. Your shelter falls down. It doesn't mean because you're a jerk and bad things happen to you. Like you don't internalize. And I get that from you. You ride those highs and lows. Do you think that that's true about yourself? And have you always been that way? Yeah. And I think I kind of focus on that
Starting point is 00:53:58 a little bit, you know what I mean, just to make sure that I don't allow things to just carry me away. You know what I mean? Like, there's so much to be emotional about outside of the business. Like, the world is in, like, full chaos and has been my whole life, I feel like. You know what I mean? There's always been some sort of representation of a bad guy, if you will, or a bad, you know, situation kind of stuff. Yeah. And then the more you learn about the world is, like, how dare I even be?
Starting point is 00:54:28 bothered or upset about, you know, such minuscule things as a misaccomplishment in my career kind of thing, you know? So I've always kind of just been like, cool. Like if something great happens, great. Something bad happens. It's like, all right, pick up the pieces and like, let's keep it pushing kind of thing because you can dwell on it if you want and let it like suck you down a little whirlpool and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:54:50 But then where would we be and where would all the people that depend on me be kind of thing if I allow the darkness to creep in. It's true. But it's like a life lesson of like, can you be satisfied? Like the life lesson of can you be satisfied? Yeah. Is it really, you know, that yearning. I can easily be satisfied.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Yeah. I know the things I like and I'm happy when they're around. When you speak about, you know what you like. I feel like you love working with Maya. She's the greatest. And she loves working with you. Maya is just such, I never met such a dynamic force of nature. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:34 Just in pedigree and talent and, you know, the kind of person she is, the kindness she is. Like she's very maternal. You are as well. Like all four of my like original Trach and Tina, like my four horsemen, horse lady sisters are giant forces of nature. And it started with Maya, and like I'm deeply indebted to her for kind of pulling me out of the fog of Tuesday night and getting something done in my first week. And constantly kind of being that source of just funny combo or wonderful performer to perform things with. I mean, you guys are like instant family. Like you were a family in another life.
Starting point is 00:56:16 You immediately met each other and you were like, oh, you play the same way I play. Yeah. And also just I'm obsessed with songbirds. You know what I mean? It's an amazing talent to sit next to and just listen to her, just take off on some sort of, like, musical number or something like while she's just sitting there. And it's like, do y'all hear this? Like, she is amazing.
Starting point is 00:56:38 I mean, I always said this. You would be better than most of the professional singers that came harsh. And you too, Keenan. I try. But, like, man, what a cool thing to kind of, like, being close to kind of thing. And, like, I just, I love it. So the same with, like, you know, even, you know, know, up to the current cast and like everyone in between. And I just love our family so much
Starting point is 00:56:59 that I like being close to it. And like it's just, I'm not afraid of how it would be when I leave. It's just, I would much rather just stay, you know? Why not? Who's writing this rule book? Yeah, exactly right. Like, I'm up to 23 years. I know. Possibly starting 24 or whatever. Possibly. You know, like. It's happening. I mean, yeah, I know you're exactly right. What are the rules? And so we do this thing in the show where we talk to somebody. Who was it? So we talked to Maya. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:57:31 How wonderful. What does she say? She loves you so much. God bless her, man. I love her too. And we laugh so hard at how dumb and how fun the stupid shit you guys have done. It's the best. It's the best.
Starting point is 00:57:44 And we talked about Titi and Mario, which, you know, is my favorite. It was just the couple that is. Put your hands and roller skates. And? Flip you upside down. And then. wheel you into the kitchen, put whipped cream on your business. No, I was singing that on the way here.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Put whipped cream on your business. What a gorgeous lyric. God bless censorship. If it wasn't for censorship, the wordplay would be so less fun. You're right. Sometimes the guardrails make it way funny here and you can't say anything dirty so you have to say put whipped cream on your business. But Maya was talking, like, and also I just want to like say thank you again.
Starting point is 00:58:23 I know I've thanked you many times in my life, but you and Maya didn't want to one of the most tender, wonderful, like, funny and beautiful things for me in my life that when I rushed from set to have my kid and my first son, Archie and Hay, was in my arms and I was watching the show that the day before I was rehearsing, which talk about, like, feeling like you're in a crazy alternate reality. You guys sang to me from Update You and Maya, and with the TT and Mario flare, but not as filthy because there were children. Of course.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Yeah. Yeah. And I couldn't have chosen two better people to have that feeling from. And it was so, it was such a wonderful, beautiful, I really treasure it, Keenan. I'm so glad because it felt that way in the moment. And I was still so young. You know, I was just honored to be asked to be a part of a, like, this is such a moment for you, like a brand new mom.
Starting point is 00:59:22 And we watched you be pregnant the whole time. And we thought you were going to be. going to troop out the show. Like, it was a super surprise. That was the plan. You know what I mean? That was the plan. So it was like showing up on Saturday and it was just like hearing the news like Amy won't be with us. There was like all hands on deck kind of energy because you're such a pivotal part of the show. So you not being there was just like there's such a gap. We have to acknowledge this in some sort of way. And yeah, to be asked to do it was like this is cool. Like this is what makes this place, you know, an epic kind of place.
Starting point is 00:59:56 And I felt very grateful to be involved in any sort of like moment like that, you know. It's very special, man. Maya's question to you was, it was basically more of like a statement, which is you're a fully formed. Little Kenan felt like he kind of came out fully formed. And I think Little Maya, too, the same thing. I think you guys saw that in each other. And I think her question was really like, do you think that's true? And I do think we kind of talked about, like, do you think you knew from the very earliest age what you wanted to do?
Starting point is 01:00:30 And some sort of way. And definitely in that direction, you know what I mean, of like, I don't know if sports is going to be it. Like, I enjoyed playing sports, but I didn't think I was going to be Bo Jackson. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. So, like, yeah, I think I had an affinity towards. my path kind of, and I always felt like it had already been carved in some sort of way.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it was just, you know, big destiny believer. That could have something to do with, like, faith and growing up in church and stuff like that. Yeah. But it just felt that way. And then I kept getting reminded of those things when those kids' midi kind of things would happen along the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:09 And I'm just like, I think I should just give over to the universe and just stay positive and stay ready. Yeah. Yeah. Well, where are you going? I'm just going to my daughter's little like summer play. Oh, God. You're going to, you're just going to your daughter's play. Literally across the street.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Okay, but what time is the play at? Where they're allowing the parents in at 135. Oh my God, we have to get you out of here. Okay, so we cannot, it's 130. Yeah. So let's go. And I've got to ask you one question. I'm going to put your glasses on.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Yeah, please. What are you listening to right now? Yeah. What are you, what's making you laugh? Yeah, what's making me laugh. What is she doing? What is she doing? What plays she is it?
Starting point is 01:01:46 I want to say, it's, it's, it's making you laugh. It's just their like sixth grade, I think, end of school. Did she want to be a performer? School year thing. Does any of them? Yeah, she's better at sports kind of thing. She's a little introverted. But I see it in her, you know, and she has her moments where she just hams it up, you know, kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:02:04 All right. We're going to get you to that play. Yeah. But what are you laughing at right now? What's making you laugh? I'm laughing at a lot of pocket. I'm watching my friend's work, you know? Like, whoever's putting out, like, new work kind of thing, you know, I just, like, I was
Starting point is 01:02:17 wasn't really aware of Sarah's like stand-up presence and I watched that special. That's special. So we- She's a force. We had her on. She is, that special is the craziest shit I've ever seen. It's the craziest. And I'm like, thank God because who else can do it, you know, kind of.
Starting point is 01:02:34 So I'm like, well, she's here for a reason and like, buckle up everybody because when she decides to like, let the train lose, it's gone. Like, it was great. Yeah, she's fantastic. And, like, that's one of the newer things that I caught on to. But like, you know, any and all of our friends that are doing stuff, you know, like Leslie Jones's special was fantastic. Like, Phennais is still out there killing. Phennazis out there with Tisha Campbell, which is what he got Tisha Campbell doing stand-up.
Starting point is 01:03:00 And it's really funny. Yes. So, like, yeah, I'm just, you know, celebrating all of our friends. Keenan, you always do. You've always been, like, laughing with us along the way and always, like, reminding us that, like, we won the lottery for getting to do what we get to do. A lot of the time, it is really a nice reminder and a pleasure to, like, take a look around, you know, and be reminded of the reach. When we're, like, flicking through the channels or, like, something pops up in the zeitgeist, like, thank you for Broad City, you know, and, like, for Paige and Hannah, you know what I mean? Like, just supporting, like, new people along the way and, like, constantly just keeping the vibe alive, you know what I mean, of fishing for fun times.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Thank you for always chatting out all us women. too. You always do that and we love you for it. It's unbelievable and it's undeniable. You can put your glasses back out for this last thing and we're going. I love it. I love that you're going to your daughter's play. Yeah, it's my sweetheart. Yeah. I'm so excited. And my other one had Field Day and her country to represent was Austria. So she had to learn about Austria. And listening to a seven-year-old talk about Austria is adorable. And I've seen the faces of these children and they are insanely. sweet and cute.
Starting point is 01:04:17 God bless them. And they're so lucky to have you as their dad. And now that you're a grandpa, we're so lucky to have you as a grandpa. Yeah. And hopefully I'll be a great, great before I'm out of here, like Morgan Freeman, you know?
Starting point is 01:04:27 Yeah, and I'm going to meet you on the red carpet and have also have sunglasses on and weirdly a, like a dog seeing eye dog. I think you want to start bringing a backup pair for people that I like. And it was like, all right, just just make sure. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:04:39 We'll get your zone. Kenan, we're so lucky to have, I'm so lucky to know you and it's so good to see you. Same. Love you. Thank you for doing this. So much. My pleasure.
Starting point is 01:04:47 My pleasure. And I'm so happy to see you today. Yeah, same. Thank you so much, Keenan Thompson. You are the best. You're the best, most wonderful person and so hilarious. And I'm so lucky to know you. And thank you for doing this.
Starting point is 01:05:00 And, you know, in these polar plunges, we usually kind of dig deeper into something that we talked about. But I just want to take a minute to just dig a little bit deeper into the fact that Keenan's characters on S&L, 23 years in, still kind of remain the characters that I call. quote on a weekly basis, whether it is T.T. and Mario saying, I'm going to put whipped cream on your business. Or it's Jean-Cajon, the French stand-up comedian who says Zootalores when he does update. Or DJ Dynasty Handbag, a character that he did on a sketch called Deep House Dish,
Starting point is 01:05:38 which was kind of like a Euro MTV show. And written by the great James Anderson. And he, character used to say bouquet instead of okay. And I say bouquet or bouquet or bouquet or whatever, however he said it. I say it all the time. I guess my point is, Keenan is like woven into the fabric of that show and my experience in that show in a way that's like very, very, very special to me and is kind of stuck in my brain. So my plunge today is to encourage you to keep watching his stuff past, present, and future,
Starting point is 01:06:22 and to stay in the present like Keenan does too. So thank you for listening to this podcast called Good Hang with Amy Poller. Okay, bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, Alea Zanaris, Bridget Kierlings, Paige Garberini, Belle Roman, and Drew Van Steen Bergen. For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss Berman.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Original music by Amy Miles.

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