Good Hang with Amy Poehler - Marcello Hernández

Episode Date: October 6, 2026

Marcello Hernández is going to tell us what his deal is. Amy hangs with the 'SNL' star and talks about being a bad texter, why working is bad and weird, and being really good at taking compliments. Host: Amy PoehlerGuests: Sarah Sherman and Marcello HernándezExecutive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-BermanFor Paper Kite Productions: Executive producer Jenna Weiss-Berman, coordinator Sam Green, and supervising producer Joel LovellFor The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson, Belle Roman, and Aleya Zenieris; lighting director Caroline Jannace; audio producer Kaya McMullen; social producer Bridget Geerlings; video editor Drew van Steenbergen; and bookers Kat Spillane and Paige GarbariniOriginal Music: Amy Miles Brought to you by PayPal. Learn more at https://paypal.com/payin4 Switch today at https://www.Visible.com for just 25/mo. Or get the premium Visible+ pro plan and save $10 on your first month with code HANG.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Heart rate accuracy based on Apple conducted study August 2026. Visit Apple.com slash HR accuracy. Hello everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. Very excited about our guest today. It is Marcelo Hernandez. You know Marcelo from S&L. He is a great stand-up. He's a real charm machine.

and we love Marcella. We have so much fun in this interview. We're going to talk about so many things today. We're going to talk about soccer. We're going to talk about summer school. We're going to talk about the fact that his mom decides who cuts his hair. We're going to talk about he's bad at texting. And he's going to try to constantly and consistently compliment me through this thing.

And I'm going to really, really fight back. So we're going to have a good time today. But before we talk to Marcella, we always find somebody who knows our guest, who wants to speak well behind our guests back and give me a question to ask them. And we are back with our friend Sarah Sherman. Sarah, a fellow cast member with Marcello at S&L and a real peach.

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Check out with the flexibility to pay now or pay later and split your payments with pay in four with no interest, no late fees. Shop now with PayPal. Pay in four subject to approval, learn more at PayPal.com slash pay in four. PayPal Inc. NMLS 910457. Wow. For people that are listening and not watching, Sarah just popped up on her Zoom with a Marcello screensaver. She's in between two gorgeous pictures of him.

So, lady. Do we buy you a drink? Look at that punum, as one would say. Isn't he so cute? He really does have a real puppy quality. Do we have the same hair, by the way? He would, by the way, kill himself if I said that. Sarah, you know that I like to compliment you

and you like to deflect. I want it. I want it today. That's what I want. You have great hair. Thank you. I do go into getting a haircut and I say, do your worse. So I'm glad it comes out good.

Sherman, it is really good to see you. I miss you guys. We miss you. Our time together on the pod was so fun. still talk about it, but Marcello is probably the cast member I feel like I kind of know the least about.

And tell me when you, when you guys first met, how, how you were already at the show? I met him on the show. This fucking brat shows up. He is going to be so

fucking mad that you guys got me for this. He's going to be like, could have gotten Kevin Hart, Spascha Manascalco, Adam Sandler, and you got fucking Sarah. Our relationship started because I'd be up all night on writing night, like, writing like a maniac. And he would be like, chill, dude, relax. You're good, man. Because I feel like I'm a very, I'm like a homework girl. Yeah.

And, you know, having someone reflect that bad, having like a fun guy. Yeah. With like major puppy dog energy being like, you can relax. You can take it easy. sis. It's funny that you say that that is like when I was thinking about what I want to talk to him about. Like he definitely always looks like he's having fun. It's very like little little brother energy like you guys let's not forget that this is fun. I would die without him there because he he's always having fun like writing night at 3 a.m. He's him and Cam Patterson will be like doing like

backflips. They'll put like all the chairs in on 17 together in like a big tower on top of like the writing table and like do like backflips over them but he's really um he's very munchy like he's very you know like he's he's really tight with his mom you know he know he's like such a good guy because of how like well he takes care of his like family and like you know uh the little brother energy is like because he cares like he'll call me like on a Wednesday at 8 p.m. like during a hiatus when we're like you know I'm like lying on my couch like rotting and he'll be like, all right, bro, what clubs are you doing tonight? Like, are you getting up there? What are you doing? Come on.

And I'm like, I'm lying down watching X-Files. And he's like, let's hit the cellar. What do you put your avails in? Do some shows. Like, he's like weirdly, like, encouraging. And he, like, he'll, like, telepathically feel if I'm, like, feeling kind of, like, shitty and, like, activate. Does stand-ups do that for each other? Where they kind of, like, encourage each other to keep getting up and trying new stuff?

Marcello does. I feel like most stand-ups are such fucking bloodsuckers that they're like, hope nobody else is getting up. Totally. So they can hog all the stage time. I want to talk to him about the fact

like he was a really good soccer player, like really cares about sports, like has a good connection with a lot of, like he's hosting the ESP's, all this stuff. Like is like a jock. He's a jock. In a way where,

I think, I can't believe I'm going to be complimenting him so much. I'll get to you. He, he's a, it's really great at S&L because he is like kind of like a team player in like a real way. Like he's really good at like involving people in bits and like, and sketches. And like he, you know, he gets everyone's voice really well and he's really good at including other people in his bits. And in a way that's extremely generous in a very team player way, even though he is a standup. And because he is a jock, he's really athletic.

like physicality like is unbelievable. He did he did a Sebastian Manuscalco sketch where like Sebastian is like a lawyer. He does like a backflip in it. He does like a back handspring like a Russian teenage gymnast. He did a backflip in like a Jack Black sketch too. He's like he's physically unbelievable and like light on his feet and like doing backflips. You know. So many backflips.

I can't explain it. Like that's what he does. He is like a newborn puppy who just like popped out of the womb, did a backflip. But then like, you know, he'll come to my office at like 10 p.m. He's like, I'm wearing Thai food. Do you want anything? And I joked like, yeah, give me a beats pill. And he got me one.

What's a beats pill? A little speaker. He's just like, he's just generous like that. It was like four minutes ago he was giving me a wedgy. And now I have like a $300 speaker in my office when I was kidding, by the way. Okay. What question do you think I should ask Marcello today? I had like three questions.

Okay, great. One, what's your fucking deal, dude? Two, oh, are you going to stay not answering my text? Look at your phone, Marcello. I have experience with that. Marcello is really bad at texting. Because he's, well, I have his location on. So I'll be like, why isn't he fucking texting me back?

And then I'll look at his location and he's doing like a children's fundraiser in Costa Rica. I'm like, okay. Okay. Respect. Respect. Respect. And I always know where he is at all time. So he can never betray me.

My question is he is a very inherently social person and gets like, he gets very energized by other people. people. He's all, like, he literally kind of like can't be alone for more than five seconds, which is why he's so fun. Um, but legit, he's an amazing joke writer and he's extremely productive and prolific. Like, he just put out an hour of standup. He already has another. He's constantly touring. And I just like don't understand when and where he has the time to do that. So I'm like, it's kind of a bad question, but I'm like, I literally want to know. when and how is he writing jokes? Yeah.

Because also he might, I have a feeling, because I've asked him this before, and I think he was just like, shut up, you know, whatever. But it is like a serious question because I have a feeling he writes a lot on stage because he's so like physical and like gets really energized by an audience, but his jokes are actually good and well written. You're making a good point, right? Which is that sometimes when someone's not always, but like when someone's doing physical stuff, it's like a vibe.

and if you read it on a page, it wouldn't really feel like a crafted joke, but you're saying he can do both. He has legit, well-written jokes. You know, and he always kind of makes this joke, like, at SNL. You know, he's like, you know me, like, you know, I'm like a bad sketchwriter or whatever. Because, you know, you just get into like a way at SNL

where you're like, you've decided you've called yourself something. Totally. Like, you know. Totally. When you did therapy on me, like crazy, when I was like, I'm not a good actor or a performer. you know, whatever. But he'll be like, you know, like, I can't write it.

But it's like, then when he actually puts his fingers on a keyboard and writes, it's hilarious. Like, he is a really good writer. And all of his stand-up, it's like really tight, good. He's set up punchline jokes. So in my head, I'm like, so he's writing it down. But I'm like, when, where? I love this question.

Because it, it, I think that there's a, underneath it, there's just this idea. of like figuring out what we're like allowed to say about ourselves. Like what do we actually, what would we dare to say we're good at basically? Right. Hmm. That's good. Yeah. Come up to think of it.

I did ask a good question. Now the Jen Exeter and me wants to know, how did you get his face in the Zoom screen? And how do you do that? Listen, I'm a professional and I'm also a magician as well. So magician never reveals the secrets that she does really well. Shermy, I love talking to you. I wish we could do it every week. It's so fun.

Thanks for doing this. I think he's going to be so happy. Are you guys seeing him now? Yeah, he's coming in and he'll be here in like a half an hour. Tell him I said, up yours. Thank you so much for doing it. Okay, love you too. Talk to you soon.

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and network management details. Woohoo. Wow, Marcelo is here and he has a gorgeous. Do you have a... gorgeous flowers. You have like a huge vase. Marcella? I can maybe put it in you.

This is for you. They remind me of you. Sunflowers? Yeah. You've written so many people's life. Wow. And I think it's the least I can do. Well, let's get started.

Why is Marcella bringing me flowers? Why do you feel the need to bring me such? Thank you for these gorgeous flowers. Of course, I'm sensing a weird energy. Like you're not so happy about the flowers or... I'm so happy, but I feel like... Put them on the floor. I feel like this is some kind of Mia Coppah.

What's happening? No, no. Mia, Mia, happy. Mia, I'm grateful to be here with you. You came... And so many people, they give people their flowers. You know what I mean? Oh, you're getting...

Literally. They're beautiful. You came in very shy. I know. Dude, it's so good to see you. And yes, I do have a Mia Copa. If people are wondering. Do you?

I do with you, yes. What is it? Because you texted me and I didn't answer. I took too long. What did I text you about? I don't even want to think about it. It's a big mistake. It's one of my largest regrets.

No, I'm getting to know you. And what I'm realizing is that you're not a great text. No. That's okay. No, but I'm working. Yeah. I'm doing the work and I'm big on a... Wait, did you just catch a fly?

Not a fly, no. I did not kill an animal. It was a flurry, something. Like a fuzzy. Yeah, fuzzy, yes. But no, it's so bad. Does it bother you to be a bad texter? Yes.

Do you actually care? I care a lot. You do. Especially when like, especially when it's somebody like you that I'm like, I can't believe I, Like, you texted me. Like, I think about it often of like, you worked your whole life to get to a place where an Amy Polar could or would text you. And then you have the balls.

Ghosted. Ghosted. The gonads to go, sorry, I didn't see. Who are you, a friend from college? Sorry, I didn't see this in time. Also, your response months later was like, oh, I was so tough. It was something like, I haven't had any sleep. I haven't.

I know. It's tough. I apologize and I got here on time. I really appreciate it. Wait, you rode here? I rode here on a bike. It saved me nine minutes on the commute. People should know it's very hot out today.

With the flowers. One hand, I risked my life. That's a lie. But. Wow, thank you for that. I sent them in a car. They're beautiful flowers. Yes.

Shout out to my assistant, buddy. You made your assistant ride a bike with a flower. No, she's in the car. She's in the car. She's in the car with the flowers. When you're riding a bike in New York City, so you have people be like, hey. Sometimes. I like that.

That's my favorite type of interaction. Hey, hey. Marcello, yes. You can ride away. Marcelo, there's so many good things happening. First of all, congratulations on being like almost a vet at us. I know. Like you know, you know, like you're in that sweet spot.

Oh, God. Right? Where you know how it works. Like you're not terrified anymore. Right. There's people that are newer than you. Yes. Like it's a nice, nice place to be in.

Yeah. It's also, yeah, I'm not so confused anymore. Yeah. I know the schedules and stuff. Yeah, because it is a weird place to work and it has its own set of rules. And like now you kind of know it and you like people know you. This is so surreal to be talking to you like this. It is crazy.

You have to understand it. All right. All right. I know that for you. You're like, I'm just Amy, but you're not. Well, you... You are a force of nature. Dude, I was watching all of your...

Every award show that Amy... Dude, you are... You're so funny. You had a guy massaging you. You kissed him. That guy was Bono. Yeah, Bono's massaging her and kissing. I'm very Hispanic.

And then you... You had the thing with George Clooney where you're like flirting with him. Oh, man. So freaking good. The hoodie, one of the great gifs. Oh my God. Is that how we say it?

Because I never know. GIF, Jif, doesn't matter. Great. Okay, well, this leads me into my first question. Okay, great. Because what I got from your special is so funny, so great. You crammed it yesterday. I crammed it.

Loved it. Thank you. You are like a product of like a matriarchy. You have grown up around women's sisters, your mothers. It's a huge part of your life. Yes. And your comedy. Oh, yeah.

I don't know what it is. I think it's, um, the, The hang with the boys is so funny. I laugh so much with my boys. But a hang with women is just so... It's funny, but it's also like mentally challenging. And emotional. You're learning about yourself.

I have a lot of lesbian friends too that I really connect with. Yes, they like... Because I'm a lesbian in many ways. Say more. Do you know what I mean? Because I grew up around women, so I'm kind of a woman in some ways. I get jealous. I get petty.

I do. I get jealous and petty. Yeah. My girlfriend has to deal with that. I do. I get weird. I go, I didn't like that. I say that sometimes.

I go, I didn't like that. I go, when you did that, I didn't like that. Oh, I love that. And it made me feel bad. And I hope that. In the future. In the future, when you are in a situation where you could do something like that, that you'll act differently for my sake.

I talk like that sometimes. That's really good communicating, by the way. My mom has really. trained me. Have you ever been a therapy? A little bit. I've experimented. Okay. Sports psychology I liked. Oh yeah. I want to talk about that because you are a big, you're a jock.

I'm a jock, yeah. And you know, I can tell from the way that you like, like you love a team. Oh yeah. And like that is the thing I have to say like in figuring out like what to talk to you about today. Like I, when I was around you and got to be at SNL when you were there,

you can tell right away the people that like to have fun And I know that sounds so stupid and simple, but it's easily forgotten at any job. Right. It's like, okay, I got the job now. And then all you think about is, like, losing the job or the job sucks or the job's hard or whatever. You forget the fun part. And there's something about you that really radiates a lot of fun.

Oh, yeah. And you love being part of a team. Oh, yeah. Like, you like the team to win. Yeah. And I don't like to work. Like, in a very positive way. I work very hard in my life.

Yes. But I don't like to work. Right. Working is bad and weird. So everything but work is always usually my goal when I'm working. I got a scooter. My girlfriend had a foot injury. She had a scooter.

I got her a new scooter. And then the old scooter, I took it to work. Now there's a scooter at work. Now, if you got to go to the bathroom, you jump on the scooter. That's fun. You're there in a couple minutes. Now people are scooting up and down the halls. That's fun.

That's fun. God, I love that. Sometimes I do seal. Do you know seal? With that long table that we do table read in? I do seal. I run through that hallway. And then I seal.

and see if I can get fully across. Okay, you know who did a version of SEAL many, many years before you is Jimmy Fallon. Of course. That's my kind of guy. Yeah. That's my kind of guy. He is.

The other thing that I love about not working or like trying not to work is, this is like, maybe this is a sick thing for me. Yeah. But looking in the eyes of someone who's trying to work, who you are not letting to work, the frustration. It brings me joy in a way that's dark.

Yeah. And then they'll do it to me sometimes and then I can laugh and understand it. Okay. You talk about, okay. It's just you have to know sometimes. Yeah, everything here is fake. I love with something, because you imagine how dirty I would get with syrup. You know how syrup is so gross and it stays on you forever?

Yeah, but that doesn't. And then you just get the joy of trying but without happening. Sorry. You, okay, you focus up. Sorry. Okay, so you... Who wants to have some fun on the Amy Polo show today? You're trying to work, aren't you?

You're trying to work, girl. I have some questions I've prepared. No, grazias. Hello, I'm trying to work. What's over here? Your phone is dirty, girl. Look at that thing. Dirty-ass phone, Amy Polar, on the 115 floor of the spot-dust-by building.

Crazy. This is an old phone. Doesn't even work. Doesn't even turn off. It's turned off, you dumb ass. Because we're recording. Of course it is. Meanwhile, my butt's vibrating.

Listen, you do this bit in your stand-up, which is so funny to me when you're talking about your mom making you dance. What I love about it is not only because you love to dance. I love to dance. Yes. And I like, I wonder if you have a relationship to your, like, you love to move around. Oh, yeah.

You, like, you're an energy guy. Mm-hmm. And from a young age, you were that way. Did your mom know that you were that kind of kid from an early age and she would get you in sports and moving and dancing because she knew you had to, you had to get it out? Yes, 100%. On 100%. My parents' goals always throughout my life was to get me tired.

Does that make sense? Yes. So all the activities I ever did. We're always with the ultimate goal of will he go to sleep. Yeah. And it was tough because there's a lot of batteries in here. You understand? So I started playing baseball.

And then baseball, I was in the outfield. And first of all, pants, right, in the sun. Like, so hot. For what? And long socks. For what? We're in Miami wearing pants in the sun. This sport doesn't make sense.

Yeah, people don't know. You grew up in Miami. Yes, of course. So I was playing baseball and the ball would never come to where I was because they had me in the outfield. And then so apparently, according to my family, remember doing this, but I was doing cartwheels in the outfield and playing with insects and stuff. And so they took me out. My mom said, I got to take you out of baseball because you're

kind of making us look bad as a family. Too much downtime out there. We're Hispanic. You're half Cuban, half Dominican. They were like, this kid will be good. And then you're a nuisance. So then I did soccer. And soccer is a perfect sport for a child with ADD that's unmedicated and with a lot of energy because the ball never stops moving. Oh, so much running. It's so much running. You get home. you are tired. And so soccer became my love. Yeah. Because I was like, it's a constant thing.

I would get so exhausted on the field. Yeah. And then my parents liked it. And then I played that, you know, until college. Yeah, you were a really good player. I was good, yeah. You went to college to play it. Yeah, I did.

And like when, what was a, first of all, what was your position? I was in the, I was a winger. Uh-huh. Which is the guys that have to run all the way up and all way up. A lot of running. A lot of running. And when you were, you, you mentioned your dad is Dominican, your mom's Cuban. Yeah.

I love when you talk about the differences culturally between those two things. What is like the, what are the biggest, I know they're stereotypical, but they're oftentimes very true, like the difference between those two cultures because you're in the middle of both. The food is pretty much the same. Cuban is more salsa. And then Dominican Republic, they do merengue and bachata. So bachata is one, two, three, stop. One, two, three, stop.

And then salsa has like a crazy, my foot goes there, your foot leaves. My foot returns your foot leaves. It's more like math. And then the way they talk is different So like for example In Cuban Spanish There's like a Oh jeez what's

What we're saying Is that we're saying Wow wow wow like that And in Dominican Republic It's a little higher and faster So it's like And we're like We're not a type of person

That we're like We don't met them If there's problems I want a problem I want to say And then the Cuban are like No baby I don't I can't tell me to you

I don't know or something that I'm going to reflection negatively so I'm going to get to me going to be like

no, I'm going to be like, no, I'm going to get there. I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to

but I'm not a lot of the difference. But what's so amazing about that is you're making music to me because I can't

speak Spanish and the the Dominican music sounds like New York. Of course. Because so many Dominican

is in New York. Fast. Yeah. And the Cuban music sounds like Desi. Right. That's what we, that's who we knew. When we were growing up, Desi Ernest was the only Cuban that we were, like we knew. Did your family watch, I Love Lucy or care, or did your parents of any, like, did they care about Desi?

Do you, did you? My mom's personality can be very Lucy sometimes. Uh-huh. My mom is like, my mom would always say, my mom came from Cuba and it was difficult because they took her stuff. You know, Cuba, the communist government. And so when she came to America, she really leaned in to being American. For years, she would tell us we're all going to change our last name to Smith. Yeah, yeah.

Because she was like, I'm American now. I don't want to be Cuban anymore. Yeah, a lot of people wanted to assimilate. And they didn't want to be, like, she was so, like, sad and embarrassed of what happened in Cuba that she wanted to be fully American. So she would say stuff, you know, like, blondes have them are fun. And I am just a dumb blonde. Like, she would say that all the time. Right.

she just thought it was, you know, being American was that. Yeah. And she loves, I love Lucy. She loves, like, you know, having fun. My mom is like, my mom has a little bit of Yorkie energy sometimes. And then also she can be very tough and hard. Yeah. And, yeah.

Okay, but I want to talk about your soccer part because, okay, you're getting, how do you get to college with soccer? Girl. So the other thing, too, is the pressure of your friends. Like, you always want to look good to your friends. and to your family. And so I was like, I need to play college soccer because I've worked so hard at soccer.

All my friends know me as a soccer guy. So if I don't play college soccer, that's bad. Right. So I emailed every school. I was sending emails. Do you have recruiters come and see you? I edited my own videos. I did play in all these tournaments.

And then the school in Ohio, John Carroll, and the school in California, Occidental. They both wanted me to play there. And they were like, you know, we can figure out some sort of academic scholarship. And then my mom said, you can't go to California because you'll be too far. and I don't know what you will do

when you are that far and if I can't go see you easily that'll be a problem. So she didn't let me go to California but she let me go to Ohio and then right before I went to college my senior here, my drama teacher asked me to memorize a monologue

and you had never performed before. No, I learned a John Leguizamo monologue and a monologue from class action and it was... John Laguizamo used to have some really great... Mombombo mouth. She calls me chocolate eyes. I call her my albino beaver. It was

crazy. It was about a Cuban commandant boy meeting a white woman at a hotel and falling in love. And your teacher recommended that you do. Really interesting. So they saw something in you. He goes, if you do this, I'll get you out of school for like three days. I'll take you

to Tampa and you'll compete in this thing. Wow. And I went and I won. I was the best monologue contrasting monologues. Because it was funny because it was like the first one was about the first one was so sad and very real about a gang member

that hit his gun under his bed and his little brother found it and shot himself. And so that's the first monologue. And then I go, he shouldn't have done that. He shouldn't have gone into my room. And then I get up. Hello. It is me, Ramon, the Cuban cabana boy.

And then you get into this thing about having sex with an old American woman. But it goes to show that people love to laugh. They love to laugh. And you got to do that one second.

You can't do that one first. And so when I did that, I felt like, oh, I like performing. I like being in front of people. That was like the first time I really felt like this was cool. That was cool what I did. You must have when you were younger, been told a lot like you're funny. You're like a good performer or a cello. Like they must have known that you had this extroverted personality.

In school they call that excessive talking mischief. Exactly. That's right. We have a lot of people in here talk about like the one, there's just like one or two teachers that said, hey, like Ryan Coogler was here and he had a professor like encouraged him to write a screenplay. And like people that just say like you should,

you should try this thing. I see something in you. And I get so much joy from taking teachers to S&L. I've taken quite a few teachers to S&L. So this guy, the first guy that taught me how to write a script is this script guy named Bob Noll at my college. And he told me,

what's your favorite comedy movie right now? And I go, I love the 40-year-old version. He goes, I want you to write that movie, but change something about it. And so I wrote the 40-year-old virgin, but the main character is a woman. Uh-huh. Apart for a woman.

Thank you, Marcel. You're welcome. Well, I have it. You would be perfect for it. Oh, my God, we should make it. And so I brought him to SNL and he got to hang out. And then I had a theology teacher who Mr. Fronzie is based on.

that she's like You know My body is full of alloy because I was burn From my toast until my head And Angie And so I love her And so I brought her to SNL

And then the coolest one was So my freshman or sophomore year I took a fundamentals Of Shakespearean performance class And there was this guy Bow Smith and his partner Tom Roche And they were this lovely gay couple And they were so fun and cool

And they'd had this class And they'd like You can perform whatever you want and then one day everyone's going to try some Shakespeare. And so people were doing, you know, monologues from famous movies, you know, Wolf of Wall Street or whatever. And then one day he noticed like everybody was acting kind of like soft. You know, like they weren't really giving it up for him.

And he goes, and he's like, you know, in his late 60s at the time maybe. And so he goes, well, if you're not going to show me what I want to see, then maybe I'll show you myself. And he's in his late 60s and takes off his tie, puts it down, takes off a necklace. Put it down and gets up. And he goes, I will be performing King Lear. And he just goes, he goes, he gets on his knees, he starts screaming and nah,

just goes crazy. And everybody's like, oh my God. And then it changed us completely. Like everyone started to really give it to him and perform. Right. What did you do? I did, oh, I did a bunch of crazy stuff in his class. I did whatever he wanted.

And then I started performing my stand-up for him. I would write a little stand-up and do it in his class. And then I took his class again. And then they were let go from the school, the two guys. And it was heartbreaking because I was like, you guys are the greatest. I just want to see you be good and whatever. And so now all these years later,

the college has called me back. And they're like, what do you want to do? You should do something for the school. And I go, okay, great. Let's start a scholarship. So I started a scholarship at my school at the college I went to and it's for kids that want to do what I did

and it's called the Bo and Tom scholarship by Marcelo Hernandez. And so now all these scholarship recipients so far we've had two, they meet with me and Bo because Tom has passed and they meet with me and Bo and they get to meet Bo and he tells them all the stories

and he's a fascinating guy and I found him in Cleveland, Ohio. Yes. So I have so much love for those teachers. and also the teacher that told me to memorize that monologue, he came to SNL with his wife and his son. I gave him a full tour. So I love, the full circle moment.

They must be so... Of like, that is priceless. That's awesome. Have you? Did you have a teacher? I had a few. I had a few, like a lot of English teachers that told me I was a good writer.

Or like we had a really good drama teacher who, like, we just put on really good productions in our school and stuff. I feel like my teachers came a little late. or when I, like, started improvising, doing sketch in Chicago, like, teachers who, like, basically just, like, treated me like somebody who could do this as a job, which I never thought I could do. And you, um, you've never, you founded. Yeah, okay, but. Hold on. Okay, no, no, no.

But did you ever do sketch? An institution. Did you ever do sketch? You're the founder of a comedic institution. Does that register to you? Okay, Marcella, back to you. many opportunities you created by doing that? Do you know how much

you gave back? We're in college with you now. We're back to college. Like, because there's so many people that have been good comedic actresses and that have done great shows and have grown. But how many of those people have founded an institutes

for people to grow and come out of? How many alumni? Okay. Have you to thank? Okay, so listen. I mean, it's just something to behold. Let's go back to Ohio. Did you ever do sketch, speaking of sketch and improv? Did you ever do it?

God, you're impressive. I mean a fascinating woman. Marcelo! Sorry. Just I'm impressed. I apologize. And let me say, your computer's banged up. The phone is all dirty.

Leave me. You should be in a castle. This is so jenzy. in a castle on a throne with a brand new computer. You know, I do agree. I do agree. Give her the new stuff, man. Give her all the new stuff.

She's got dense on the computer. I feel like getting into Sebastian. You are a little getting into it. The computer looks like it was thrown off a truck. Pick it up, Amy Pohn. The phone looks like it has been in the mouth of a toddler. it's sticky it's sticky

it's sticky oh my god Marcel I'm sorry Sebastian we interviewed him it was so fun we did it in front of a live audience

I need to stop doing him because he's so fun to do I bet you're so good at it also you've got really got his physicality down I love it and is it true that you did like a back handspring when you did him

or like a back flip in some crazy stuff I want to talk about that. Thank God. Okay, but just... We're in Ohio. Okay, you quit. You quit soccer.

You're like, I got to do stand-up. Was that sad? Yeah. With the team must have been bombed. They were bad. They were bombed. And more disappointed in me for giving up on them. Because I couldn't do both.

I was doing a lot of stand-up. I won an amateur company. I got good, like, I didn't get really good fast. Yeah. But I got like, okay, very fast. Yeah. Because you're a hustler. You know how to...

Yeah. And I was doing a lot of sets. And then I won an amateur competition, $500 to host at the funny stop comedy club in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio. And I go, oh, I'm the real deal. Yeah. And then, so I had to quit because I was like, I want to pursue this. I think I could be good at it. What did your mom think?

She was excited about it. She was like, I think this is what you're supposed to do. She also never understood soccer. She's like, it's too fast and people kick you and I don't want you to be kicked. And then my dad was like, you shouldn't quit. I think you could be a good soccer player. I stepdad was also very supportive. And then when I quit, this is like a balls dropping moment

is when I quit, I was crying and I told the coaches I quit. And they were like, great, we get it. You know, obviously we'll miss you on the team. But we're not going to tell the team. You are going to go downstairs right now. Clean your face up, do whatever you have to do. And then go tell the boys that you're quitting the team. And so I was like, I'm so sorry, guys.

I just got to. I want to do something. I do comedy. And I just think you guys are going to do great. And I'm just sorry. And I love you guys. And then I just had to shake the hands of like 27 guys. You had to good game it for those guys.

And like, most of them were like, that's so weird. And then, you know, a couple of them were like, I love you, buddy. Good luck, whatever. Yeah. But that also lit a fire under my butt. Yeah.

And then you, just for laughs is what gets you the SNL audition. Just for Laps is a comedy festival. You go up there, you do really well, you get seen, you get the audition. What is your audition story? Everybody has an S&L audition story. What's yours? So, dude, I've never been so nervous.

I was hosting at the stand comedy club almost every night at the time. I was a host. So I realized that you could get way more spots on shows if you just host. You could do your stand-up. And it's tough because you're doing a cold open, but you can do stand up.

Way more times than you can just do a spot if you say I'll host. So I was like, I'll host everything. And then I get this thing for JFL. I go to JFL. It's my six minute set. If you watch it back, I'm shaking. Like if you just watch it, like, focus on my hands and stuff. I am fully

like shaking up there for the whole six minutes because I was really, really scared. I had to look myself in the mirror before and be like, you just got to do this. You got to do this. And then after that, I got the Estinal audition. I go to the audition thing.

I do a bunch of jokes about how my mom escaped communism and that I can't complain and that whatever. And then I call my mom after and I go, I don't know. Because they didn't laugh that hard because it's at like UCB. And I think some people there, they don't think cosmic communism is that bad. And so I feel scared that they think I'm like some right wing nut.

And she's like, it's okay, Marcello. They understand your message. It's okay. I'm like, whatever. Then I got the call back. And then I, I got the call back and I put headphones in

and I listened to Always Be My Baby by Mariah Carey, but by brass tracks. So it's like a lot of sacks. It's so good. And I'm blasting it in my ears while I wait because they make you wait. And on repeat over and over again, the same song.

While you're in the dressing room. At 30 rock. Yes. And so I'm in there like this, back to the door. And then the only thing I hear is at one point I hear and I turn around

and a woman has been there for like a few minutes trying to call my attention Sam Minor who's a talent on the talent team and I was like oh okay sorry and then someone told me I had to get makeup on and I was like I don't think so and they're like oh you should get some makeup on

and then I got some makeup on and then I went out first time ever getting makeup on probably yeah for sure and then no one laughed somebody coughed And then my mom, I call my mom and I'm like, I don't know. Notoriously quiet. Cold room.

Yeah, cold room. And then that's it. And then a few weeks later, I got the call that I got the job. And I was like, this is awesome. Where were you when you got the call? Do you remember? Yeah, I was like at my apartment, my friend's apartment that I was living in. And I called my mom and then we cried for a bit.

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Is that true? Do you identify as Gen Z? No, because I'm too close. I'm not far enough removed from the immigrant struggle. Yes. To like truly enjoy my Gen Z. life because you had this great thing that I saw when I watched the show which I do quite often where you say like millennials only care about money yeah boomers only care about money

millennials are like where's the money don't skip over gen x everybody does gen x boomers only care about money gen x is like should we only care about money millennials are like where's the money and gen z is like what is money right and so i am like You're the where is the money? I only care about them. I'm a boomer. So you're a boomer. I see.

Because I think Gen Z plus immigrant struggle equals boomer. Yes. I'm a young boomer in many ways. Young boomer. I didn't get to have mental health. Right. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

So that's a boomer vibes. You're right. And my mom is probably a boomer. What's a boomer? No, your mom is Gen X. Your mom is my age. But my mom is a boomer because of the immigrant thing. Well, when you say the immigrant thing, it's like because you're first gen, you just feel this need to like, you just cannot complain about the same stuff that can't complain.

Nothing is real. Everything is just. But what about you is Gen Z? Because I think there are a few Gen Z things. I'm really good on the phone. I mean, I can do whatever you need on the phone. Except for texting. I can reset everything.

Except for texting is bad. That's a Gen Z thing probably too. Big time. Not answering. There's like a non-judgmental vibe sometimes Gen Z that you can feel where they're like, whatever, do your thing. Yeah. I have some of that. You do you. I feel like that.

And my sister is like definition of Gen Z. Uh-huh. She's younger than you? Yeah. But she's an architect. And she's now doing interior design. And she's so quiet and so reserved. And then, but also she has her moments with her friends where she like is like fun and talkative.

Yeah. But she's like in our house. She's like the quieter one. Yeah. And that's my, that's a theory my mom has that if the first child you have is insane that the next one will be quiet. She says that. That's probably a story. The other day we went to my friend Lily's house and her baby is so nice and sweet and quiet.

And she goes, that next one is going to be a disaster. And I think it could be real. Do you have, how many do you have now? I'm two, two boys. I met your boys. You did. They were very excited to me. They were cute boys, dude.

You got some good boys. Well, you know, they're at the age now where they're watching S&L and they want to see people that look like them. They want to see people their age. Right. And they want to like, you know, there's nothing like, even if you're on SNL, your kids just don't want to watch like classic old other just like I want to watch people that

look like me that's what S&L is about is this feeling that like young people are in charge over there your relationship with like Maya and Dratch and it's so cool and so awesome Dratch makes me laugh in a way that I can't even explain

and the way that she laughs her laugh is priceless it's like magic and the headphones thing who's the best laugh oh I know the headphones It's like, I can't. It was so good. Fucking so good.

She's like, I can't, I can't figure it out. It's incredible. I owe Dratch so much money for that. She's so funny. Domingo is a huge hit. Like, congrats on having a recurring, like, you need something sometimes. I had nothing to do with that. God gave me that.

God and Kira O'Sullivan and Jimmy. They gave me that. Kira O'Sullivan and Jimmy Fowley, great writers at S&L, like so important to that show. Right. So many monologues. right, so many pieces.

And why do you think, is it, why do you think that sketch just took off? I mean, is it just the bad singing? Yeah. What is it that makes that so delicious that sketch? I think Ariana Grande is so good.

Yeah. We watch, like watching her at a table is mind, it's mind blowing. Yeah. She sings so crazy. And then her doing it bad is so hard.

Yeah. To like sing bad. Yeah. On purpose. and she does it so good it's so funny so that that gets you through the first part of the sketch

and like the girls were so funny Heidi and Ego and all them coming in after her so funny and Sarah and everybody and then and then at the end they're talking about this guy the whole time and you're like all right

well now there has to be a reveal and then I come out like in a little goate and like a version of my hair and then I sing what I still feel is a very catchy tune. Yeah, catchy tune. Of just...

da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-d-d-d-d-d-d-vento. And then I think that's what happened. It's not just a catchy tune. It's a very popular pop song. It's huge. One of the biggest pop songs of our time. Some could argue. Some could argue, yeah.

And so I think that it was just a perfect storm. and then I think it's very S&L for the audience to reward the guy that did the least. Yes, yes. In the sketch. It's called that. Did nothing pretty much. Came in for three seconds and that's the thing. But I'm just going to, I'm going to praise you for a little bit because. Please get ready, get ready, Marcel.

Founder. Because that is a perfect example of. You enter that sketch having fun. Like you're enjoying it, like we're enjoying it. And you're like ease in coming into it. And you do this with most of the stuff that you do. Like you don't let us forget when you're performing. Like, can you believe we're all watching this?

This is like comedy. Like how do we all get here? How did you get in the audience? How did I get? Like it's very, very infectious. Like I always say like I always want people to seem relaxed. I don't really care if they have the best jokes or if they're the funniest. I just want them to seem like they're having good time and they're relaxed.

and I can. Nothing makes me more stressed than when I can feel like the mirror neurons of like someone else's stress. Yeah, I feel that. And you've always do that in the show. You act like you've always been there.

Like everything is super fun. Yeah. And that's the power of fear. Interesting. That's the power of fear. What do you mean? How do you fake it? You're so scared, probably. You're just so scared of it going wrong

that you're like, if it goes wrong, I'm going to go wrong, swinging to the raft. Right. So, like, I just go absolutely insane. My biggest note at dress is calm down. Because there's some stuff you guys haven't seen where I really lose it out there.

Yeah. Not, like, in a bad way, but like... You push it. Oh, yeah, there was a thing about... There was a thing that we did that... It came out on the show about... With Coleman Domingo where he's a teacher. Yeah.

And he's like, nothing matters. Come up with a number. And I'm like, 11... FlebMt. and then he's like, and who would be, who would be, you know, a number bigger than Flew? Whatever the question was.

And then I get up and I go, 112. And I did it so big that all the writers were like, Marcel. Just, just, please, just stop. And that's a note that's chased me my whole life since kindergarten. Just bring it down.

But that is my favorite kind of note though because the opposite is way worse. Yeah, right. Well, I can't do the opposite. I can't. You have done so many funny things on the show. Your stuff with Bad Bunny has been so funny in Pedro. So grateful.

So much good stuff. Who is your bad bunny? Who is the person that came to the show? We'll get to me in a second. Okay. How long are we going to be here? Let's do like four hours. And then you find what's good.

But do you feel like, like you're funnier and that's... What's up? That's a timer up there and that says how long we've been going. You over an hour? Yes. No. So I have so many more questions.

I want to hang out. I'm not leaving. How about that? What will you do? Turn the cameras off? Okay. But bad bunny, wait. Do you think you're funnier and...

Do you think you're funnier in Spanish? Yeah. Okay. Do you think in Spanish? I'm fast in Spanish. Fast in Spanish. And you write in Spanish? Sometimes, yeah.

So I've been doing stand-up in Spanish. I've been doing a little touring in Spanish. Oh, that's cool. And it is so fun. Yeah. My family, my girlfriend, my dad, they think that I'm better in Spanish, which is offensive.

What do you think is the difference? Just the facility of the language? I guess. I think Spanish comedy is interesting because it's developing. There's so many good young comedians that are doing it in Spanish. Angelo Colina is one that travels with me or has done, you know, shows with me.

Laura Bolivar has done a picture shows with me here. Santia Spinoza, Pedro Gonzalez. And Sophia Rivera, who's a Nina de Ribeiro, who's a Mexican stand-up, who really was like a, like, she's a titan of stand-up in Mexico. And she's a woman, and she's, like, broken a lot of barriers because she was the best and the biggest and is. and I find that the reason that those stand-ups like her worked so well so early on is because stand-up in Spanish for years like Alvarez Gades and legendary like Latino

comedians in Spanish in Dominican Republic we had like Boruga and Ho Chi and there's a bunch and they did like long stories with a big punchline or it was political it was like SNL where you dress up like a political guy and you go bra-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-and-and-and-so. And so when you do an American style of stand-up, punchy, observational stuff, I think the audience is, it's a refreshing feeling. Yeah, yeah. And so I feel that when I'm, like, doing a Spanish set with all Hispanic people

and we're all laughing, and especially today when Latinos are going through a lot, and we just get to be in a room and scream in Spanish, it feels very powerful. Yeah, Pedro. And I'm so lucky. I'm saying, Marcella, like, in general, the cast right now on the show is, like, really putting the variety and variety show. Like, everybody's very, very different. And there's a vibe that's, like, everybody's kind of bringing the stuff that they can bring. And watching you guys do that, it was very, very exciting because the show, you know, needs to feel like it's a reflection of the time.

Yeah. And that is, like, and there's... Latinos are having a moment. We're having a moment. Let us have a moment. Do you ever have an SNL stress stream? Have you had any? Do you have a recurring stress stream?

Yeah. What is it? It's not getting to the thing. Like not getting to the floor. That's too far. That's mine. You're too far or too late? Too far, too late.

Yeah. Running down the stairs. Have you almost ever, did you almost ever miss one? No, I've never missed a, have you? No, but I almost did once. Yeah, missing a cue. Yeah, like, no, like I was in the beginning of the sketch. Oh.

And I was almost not. out there. Oh. Yeah. And Jenna's like, you know, screaming. And I'm coming from a place where she can't see me. So it was even more nerve-wracking because I was there and she didn't know yet. She was looking for me.

This is on the live show. Whether it was live or dress, I think it doesn't know it. It doesn't need to be. I definitely have been, I've gone out into a scene with the wrong wig where I've been the wrong character. And then I've come out and I've been dressed a certain way. And then I was like, and then I looked up and I was wearing the wrong wig. we had to like switch it in like five seconds.

Oh my God. So exciting. But those are the kind of things that like, but yeah, your dream is that you don't make it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and I wanted to tell you that. Yeah. I've been hanging out with Jody so much.

Oh, Jody McHuso, who runs the hair department at S&L whose voice is an inspiration for Bronx beat. Sweat of weather. Sweat of weather. And so just getting to like, she cuts my hair. She's the only person my mom lets to cut my hair. Wait, hold on. Yeah. Your mom is in charge of who cuts your hair.

Yeah. Did she used to cut your hair? No. She's always taking me to the person that does it. Okay. And then Jody has done it very well, so she's like, Jody can do it from now on. But hearing her so much has like,

like I've been at SNO long enough where if you guys didn't do her voice on the show, somebody would have because you're with her enough that you're like, oh, this is just she's exactly that person. She is. So you're telling me. It's so good. It's so, so good. Okay.

So speaking of. the people that you work with who love you. Right. And one of them is Sarah Sherman, and that is who we talk to today. And she said you would be bumped. No. She was like, he wants Kevin Hart. He wants us to talk to, you know, other people, but you got me and we got her.

And we love her here. And she loves you whether you believe it or not. And her first, she had a couple questions for you. First of all, she spoke so well about you. Really? Yes. That's the kind of person she is. Yeah.

She just talks good behind your back. Yeah. And to your face. Into my face, it's violence. Well, into your face, she said, yeah, because her first question was like, what's your fucking deal, dude? Really? That's her first question. What's your fucking deal?

First of all, I'll tell you what my deal is. My deal is, I'll tell you what my deal is. Because I know this is not just coming from her. This is a big question. There's some new cast members that feel this. They go, what's your fucking deal? And I'll tell you what my deal is. My deal is that I was.

not given the opportunity to be soft in my house. I see. You're mean to be, my whole life, my family. I was short. My nickname in the house was Pulga, which means flee. That's my name in my house. I'm short, so they call me dwarf in my house. Enano means dwarf.

That was my name in my house. Okay? So if you are a little girl that wears rainbow clothes, that's your name. That's who you are. I call people, I say it like I see it. So, you know, Tommy Brennan is a good-looking kid. that he's good looking and that me might be dumb because that's what he looks like you say it that's a love language my love language and a lot of people they misinterpret it because i can some people can think it's mean

but i don't think that i think that's how my family talked to me jansy love short i just want you to know janzy love short guys why right why that's the question they love short kings out of guilt of what they've done to the shorts for years now they're trying to be nice and you know what now we don't care as on behalf of the shorts we don't care we don't care we don't care what you want to say to us, short king, like I need that. I taught myself to be self, to have self-esteem. Because you wouldn't give it to me. Okay.

Women in their bio talking about must be six feet to ride this roller coaster. Shush. You're right. You're right. They don't deserve you. They don't deserve me now. They don't deserve you. Now I'm supposed to say thank you.

Oh, thank you. Please. Okay. And Sarah's second question. Uh-huh. Why are you not answering my texts? We already talked about that. Sarah's just a complainer.

right and so and sometimes I can sometimes I do have the bandwidth but right now I'm too busy to be too bandwidth

but I will say this about Sarah I watch her on podcasts when I'm like bored I'll watch Sarah on a podcast Sarah has jokes per minute Sarah's always trying to do a joke you guys both are very

yeah she has so many you guys are both really quick she's quick I like her so quick and then she and sweetly her third question

was like basically like you have written so many great jokes. You have really well written jokes. You're a physical person. You have a ton of charisma. Like you know how to work a room. Like it's not a crime in front of anybody.

But you have really, really good left that take this compliment in. And you have really, really good jokes. And you are a very, very good writer. And she wants to know, like,

how do you see yourself as a writer? Like, do you see yourself as a writer? And can you accept that you're a good one? I don't know. But... You're not going to answer this question. I don't know.

I'm just like... I don't feel like I'm a great writer. I'm probably going to take a sketch writing class this summer because of that fear of like... Because also I just watched like... Because Sarah, a lot of the people at the show, they know sketch. Mm-hmm. And I came so hard from stand-up that I don't know sketch that well.

Yeah. And watching people like Mikey and Streeter and Colin and... Bowen and... And know how to like structure and heighten. And you, like all of the stuff you've done and Maya and all, like so many people that have come from, that came from sketch to the show that are so... Ashley Padilla is such a great sketch writer. And I'm like, athletically jealous of like that ability.

And I think that she's right. Like, I can write jokes. But the format and the character reveal and all that stuff is stuff that if it wasn't Jake Nordwind and Mike DeCenzo who have been like really with me a lot and Asha Ward is like I would not be I wouldn't get anything on because I'm just jokes

and so I'm learning I'm trying to learn more and more of like what that thing is but I think that's really cool like Sarah was on here she's now going in her fifth year and she was like So I'm going into my fourth year. Yeah you're a year behind her and it's like

that's when you start being like should I practice my backhand Like what's the thing like, like I've got on, I've got some stuff on. People know who I am. I'm like playing to my strengths. Now I'm playing with good people. Now I know how this place works. And then you can start being like, all right, can I start trying some stuff that like maybe I don't necessarily go to automatically?

But like it's cool. It's a cool trajectory of being on that show. And being an artist, basically. That's what a good artist does is they keep trying new things, seeing what works, like learning from good people getting better, that's what they do. Yeah. And what, like, you did the show. Look, he just, now he's talking about me. Of course.

Well, what am I to do? What am I to do? What type of psychotic person sits with Amy Polar and goes, let's talk about me? You have to be who? Denzel, if you're watching, I'd love to have you on. Yes, Denzel should come by. He would kill this. Oh, my God.

I would love to have Denzel. So, because you did the show, right? And this is something, by the way, that I have to ask you in person because I've been petrified to text you after our debacle. So you did the show. You had this, you know, obviously incredible transition into TV and you've done so many funny parts and roles and you've written and you've done it all. What, like, advice do you have for someone that, like me or like Sarah or like, you know, Ashley or even Bowen that just left the show? So many people that looked up to you and I've seen you as like a beacon of like, that is a funny lady that has worked hard and is successful.

What do you say to us? Let me ask you one question. After the show, do you want to do more, is the hope to do more like written stuff, more film, more TV and stuff like that? Yeah, then I would say my advice, if that was what you would want to do, is two things is like don't take anyone else's advice. Don't listen to anybody. I know.

It's always the person you really want advice from that says something like that. Well, you only know what's right for you. Just like, and I would say enjoy where you are as best you can when you're there. I just think that simple idea of enjoying where you are and not, I mean, I don't always take this advice either, but this idea of like, if I get here, then I'll get here. get here and then I get here and it's like and we can do that our whole lives. We can always be like, this is good. This is great. But like I want more sketches or now, okay, I've been on for seven years. Now I want to like it just never ends the dissatisfaction of our job. And that's motivating and that's

good. But I would say I think the real win is being actually where you are in life and trying as best you can to enjoy it. It's like the hardest thing in the world to do. But the few times I've done it, my whole life has changed. And what do you do when you're like, what is an example of you enjoying where you are? Like being like actually, well, the way it looks like for me. Yes.

I bet it looks similar for you is that I'm actually like looking around and laughing with the people I get to be with and not like the way. Worrying. Yes, just like being in my body in real space and time. I know it sounds esoteric, but as far as career advice, who fucking knows? Like in five years, we may have to do fucking comedy on the moon and TV will be on your phone and books will be a snack that you eat.

And like, we don't, like, who knows what's going to be in the, how we're going to make con. I mean, I'm doing a podcast. I know. So, like, what, you know, if you told me, I didn't even know what podcasts were. I know. And by the way, it's one of the best ones. Award winning. Crazy.

So as far as career, who knows. Okay. Yeah, whatever. Thank you. I do love you very much. No, it was. It was. I'm going to live in the moment.

I don't know how quick you're going to wrap up. Enjoy the moment. Yeah. Enjoy it. Yeah. Because like life is a dream and we're all going to die, you know? You played a game here with Fred. Yes.

What game do you play? You want to play it? I want to play it with you. Okay, which game was it? It's a game where you tell someone to pretend they're an expert. Oh, yes. Let's play it. Okay, okay.

Okay. And then they have. I can't wait. Okay. Okay. Yes. Okay. And I'm gonna, and I watched Fred and I loved his so much and he did a lot of stuff that I liked that I might incorporate into mine because it's so good. So maybe you go first. Okay, I'll go first. I tell you. So to remind people that didn't listen to the Fred Armisen episode, Fred and I, it's a great game where we play, well, I don't know if we play it, but we just, I made him play it.

They go, no, no, no. Big red no. Where you get a subject and you have to talk for a minute as if you were an expert. I have my phone. Years is dead and it's from 2004. I don't dare you. Okay. Okay. So I have to try and you have to try to be convincing. You have to be, you can't be like joking.

You have to be like you're giving a talk on this thing. Okay. I tell you yours. Yes. Okay. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Okay. Okay. Okay. You are an expert on corn. Okay. Three, two, one. Before you start talking about the individual varieties of corn, you really have to understand what corn means to America.

And what corn means to America is a sense of community. It means that we as a nation are coming together to create a crop that means we will be okay. Corn represents safety and security. Wow. And so the varieties of which I'll talk about all of them today. Of course. They in many ways represent our relationship to corn in general, how we've gotten to know it, how we've gotten to grow it. Right.

And how we use that incredible crop, which has sustained our forefathers. Right. How we've used it to find out about ourselves. Right. So let's get started first with... You got so good. That's really good. I felt like I was bullshitting.

We're all a colonel. Okay, now you go. We're all a colonels. Okay. You are an expert on the invention of penicillin. Okay. Count me down. Here we go.

So penicillin in many ways is... a reaction, right? Penicillin is a reaction to the effects of the penicillin before penicillin, alcohol, right? For many years, alcohol was penicillin, but what's the deal with alcohol, right? You drink it, you drink it, you drink it, you drink it, you numb yourself in the pain, but there's an emotional experience. The beauty of penicillin is that it gives you all of the benefits of alcohol, without the hangover and the emotional moments, you know.

And a lot of people don't know this, but in 1879, Jeffrey L. Sillen. Oh. He goes, he goes, what are we going to do, right? He figures this out. And then he goes, how do we get it in people? Something like a pen. and that's actually penicillin was

backwards also the creation of the syringe. Whoa, I did not know that. And that's a minute and 15. You had me until you said, and he goes. Jeffrey L. and he goes, what are we going to do?

I think I bet I was at a minute before that. But wow, corn, you were very good with corn. And thank you for. You knew science was not my thing. I went to summer school for chemistry as well. And I failed that. And he goes, what are we going to do? What are we going to do?

And that's one of the biggest questions in science. That is one of the biggest questions in science. It is one of the biggest, what are we going to do? Whenever something is an obstacle has arrived, every major scientist in history has said, what are we going to do? And so that's, you know, and I'll tell you what we're going to do here today. Wrap this up. A lot of people in the comments here live are saying, keep going.

We don't have live comments. You see in the comments. Hey, chat. I know, guys. I want to stay. Let the record show. It's like a lot. Oh, my God, a super chat.

500 bucks. 500 bucks if I stay. Thank you. Lizard King 45. Thank you, buddy. And then what are you? watching right now, listening to Who makes you laugh, Marcello?

How much time do we have? Not a lot, that's a fact. Just need one. One thing I'm watching. Okay. What are you liking watching, listening? I know you're a bit of a culture vulture. I can tell.

I do, I do love listening to you. I listen to you in shorts. Yeah, you watch it on your phone. All the shorts. I understand. To have a laugh, to have a laugh is, it's tough. I know. I try to stay, like, I almost try to like keep, you ever do that?

Yes, it's hard to, that's why I ask, because I'm like, I want to watch more comedy. I watch a lot of dark stuff and I need to like, is there a video? Is there a video that you play that you love? There's one, this is kind of... It's just on your phone? Yeah, it's only for me. I can look it up on my laptop too. To play it?

No, we don't have that capacity here. Oh, okay. I recently watched this video of a guy who can cry on command. And he's talking about how his... Is this on TikTok? Yeah, I'll show you. It's really crazy. And he's just crying because his tire is flat.

And it's like really intense. And I laughed so hard. Marcello, we... We gotta go. I know. It sucks. It's like when you go to your aunt's house and you're like, you're my aunt. And I love you and I like to be at your house.

And then you go, I know, but I have a life as well. And you go, okay, I get it. Send me back to where I came from. But I love visiting my nephew. I love when he brings me flowers. I did bring you flowers. They're big, too. They're absolutely gorgeous.

Thank you. They really are gorgeous. Thank you so much. Thank you, Marcel. You're the first person to ever bring me flowers on the show. Is that true? And I want that to go down in history. Thank you to Amy Poehler.

I'm so inspired by you. I'm serious. You have to do it to people all day long. It's almost like what you do at this podcast. And I think it's ridiculous to give people compliments because it sucks and it's weird and it hurts. It makes me feel weird when I get a compliment. So I like to attack with it.

I've noticed. And you don't like it either. Look at you. You don't like it either. No, honey, you're not going to compliment me. You're not complimenting me. You deserve it. You are powerful. You are smart.

You have a good family. You have created a world for yourself. You did podcasting for a week and then got awards. You are insane. Thank you so funny. At SNL, you are an example of how. supposed to be. And so many comedians in the world have you to think for the platform you gave them.

And I'll tell you, yeah, okay. And I just want to say a couple more things. And Amy Poehler, the longevity of what you've done to start where you started and then get to hear from S&L, they go, okay, she did S&L, now what? Now what? We're renting these lights. You're a savage on parts and wreck. Dying of laughter, dying of laughter, dying of laughter.

So sorry, myself. You create stars. You create stars. Think about the people on that show with you. you. It's Nick Offerman. It's Aubrey Plaza and you're with them and you're playing back and forth and the people are laughing.

We've cut the feed. Don't turn it off. Don't touch it. We've cut the feed. We've cut the feed long ago. Don't look at the clock. The clock's bright, blinking red. A woman just wrote WTF. And I say a woman because it's just this is what's here. I have a button under my desk and I just

pressed it. It's a security button. It's a security button. going to come in, aren't they? And you know what? I want to drag me out of here. Now I'm getting mad. Now I'm actually getting mad. You're getting mad. Okay. Yeah, it's time ago. Okay. Here my no. Let's hear my know. Okay. Okay. Thank you. I want to say a shout out. Quick shout out. To my mom, to all the Latinos out there. Keep grinding, baby. We are not going anywhere. We do need to leave. And that's, um, and, uh, you know what I mean? To my sister. My dad, my stepdad, all the man in my life. My uncle,

Babido, rest in peace. I loved you, and I still love you. You're really making people uncomfortable now. You're really talented. And my girlfriend is beautiful and thank you guys man. Wow. Woo, Marcel. Thank you. And you guys got to get

this woman in the phone. Thank you so much, Marcello. That was so fun and a wild ride and thank you for the flowers and so many hard laughs. And you know, leave it to Marcello to introduce me to a woman in comedy that I've never heard of. So for this polar plunge, I'm excited

to dig deep into the work of Sophia Nino de Rivera, who is an actress and stand-up, born in Mexico City, and who performs in English and in Spanish, and who is really, really funny. So check her stuff out. And thank you, Marcello, for introducing me and all of us to a whole other world of great people to laugh at and laugh with. Thanks for checking out this episode of Good Hang, and we'll see you soon. Bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons,

Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, Alea Zanaris, Bridget Kearlings, Paige Garberini, Bell Roman, and Drew Van Steenbergin. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell and Jenna Weiss Berman.

Original music by Amy Miles.