Good Hang with Amy Poehler - Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Berner

Episode Date: April 29, 2025

Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Berner are in a nonsexual marriage. Amy hangs with the hosts of Giggly Squad and talks about the origins of their friendship, the best way to beat a panic attack, and why you���ll never find them running. Host: Amy Poehler Guests: Kim DeSorbo, Lenore DiLeo-Berner, Paige DeSorbo, and Hannah Berner Executive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-Berman For Paper Kite Productions: Executive producer Jenna Weiss-Berman, coordinator Sam Green, and supervising producer Joel Lovell For The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson, Belle Roman, Francis X Bernal Jr., Caroline Jannace, and Aleya Zenieris; audio producer Kaya McMullen; video editor Drew van Steenbergen; and booker Kat Spillane Original Music: Amy Miles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hi, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang with me, Amy Poehler, very excited about our guest today, Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Burner, two great women who make up the podcast Giggly Squad. You may have listened to them on there. You may have seen them all over your social media. You might have met them in the Bravo reality show Summer House, which is great, and one of them is still on it, and the other one is long gone. But we are going to talk about really fun things. today. We're going to talk about stand-up comedy. We're going to talk about female friendship. We're going to talk about pimple patches. We're going to decide what is the best medication for anxiety. So keep listening. Check it out. And we always want to start every episode with people that know our guests or is a fan of our guest or has an idea of what they think I should ask our guest. And who better to talk about two young wonderful women than the mothers of these wonderful women. So we've got Lenore and Kimberly, Hannah and Paige's mothers joining us today, who were so delightful. And I could have talked to them all day. So let's hear what they have to say.

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We do this thing on Good Hang where we check in with people who know the guest or who are fans of the guest or who want to tell me questions they think I should ask the guest. And we thought there was no better people to talk about Paige and Hannah than their moms. I would say that's probably true. They played Radio City. What is it like to see your kids playing Radio City? I still don't believe it. No, it was unreal. It really, I just, we pinched ourselves.

I'm like, this can't be happening. I remember when they booked it, I just thought, you're like, I couldn't believe that was happening. And then they sold out the first show and added a second show. And then I thought, oh, no, they're never going to sell tickets to a second show. And then they sold out the second show. And I thought, what is happening? Right. And we get nervous.

them but we don't tell them like when nor is exactly right when i'm like you're adding a second show for radio city what are you not slick no way are you going to sell that out what was it like being on tour Kimberly you went on tour with the girls where did you go how long were you there and what was it like i love it i mean it's just you know i stay i don't go out on stage or anything our husbands have gone out on stage but um i i just stay in the background and And I'm just really there if she needs something, you know. And it's nice to be with the girls. And I love watching.

I always say the best part of their show is when they're first together, whether it's in the green room or they're getting their hair and makeup done. Because when Hannah and Paige are together, it's like no one else exists. And they're just, it's a show. I like always say to my sister, oh, you have to come when they're getting their hair and makeup done because that's the best part. Right, Lenore? I mean,

Yeah, it's the warm-up act. I think their bond is just incredible and so needed in today's environment, really. I agree. I feel like their genuine friendship is really nice to be around. I think that's what you like so much about them is how genuine they are as people. But then their friendship and bond with each other is why you keep coming back. Yeah. You know, and Lenore, what was it like to have your daughter be on?

on reality TV. Oh. Honestly, I don't know how Paige has hung in there so long. Let's just say it wasn't a good fit. Right. It was not a good fit for Hannah. Yeah, stressful. You know, she jokes about how, you know, she's an athlete.

She's very coachable. And so you put a producer in her ear and tells her, oh, you know, do this. It'll be great. Do that. She's like, tell me how high to jump. I'll do it. And then she doesn't realize she's making a disaster for herself in the edit. To Hannah's credit, I always say this.

If Paige went through what Hannah did on the reality part of it, Paige would have moved back home and you would have never seen her again. And really, I say that to Paige all the time. Like, I am so impressed with Hannah's perseverance. And, I mean, she blew everyone out of the water. You know, just having a Netflix special. Like, come on, who, you know. He's a fighter and she's very competitive.

So that you couldn't take away from her. I'm wondering if there's a question that either one of you think I should ask them. Anything you want to know doesn't have to be big or deep. It can be, is there anything you think I should ask them today? Are you pregnant? I'm kidding. Okay, I'll start the podcast by asking them both that. I think, though, a great question is, like, are they enjoying?

themselves. Right? And, you know, what do they enjoy about it? Well, I am so thankful that you guys gave time today. I think they're going to be thrilled that we got to talk today. I mean, now you're making me think I should always talk to everybody's mom. Because you really do get a sense, really get a sense really fast. I'm sure you feel this way too. When you meet somebody's parents, and the only you get, when you meet somebody's parents, you're like, oh. now I get it and it's either a now I get it I understand why they're so great or sometimes it's now I get it why they're so fucked up well right maybe you should have the dads on no it really means a lot that you both gave time and I'm excited to talk to them I think they're so great

and the stuff that they've built together I think is an indication of the strength of female friendship I think it's you know it's a natural resource female friendship and the way it drives the world and the way they talk about it and model it is really, really cool and special. So thank you both. It's really nice to meet you both. Really, it was an honor. I never was this on my bingo card pages. I know.

Amy Paul. I'm like, what? Huge fan, Amy. We love you, Amy. Oh, thanks, you guys. And you both sound exactly like your daughters and you look like they're older sisters. You do, look, Jen X all the way, babe. You definitely are favorite.

They're the mom giggly squad. Thank you so much. Thanks, thank you. Bye. This episode is brought to you by Degree Cool Rush Deodorant. I'm a big fan of people owning their mistakes, like how last year Degree changed their Cool Rush formula and men were mad.

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How to Giggle, which we're going to talk about. We have to say thumbing. That's a good, we should bring that back. We're thumbing through it. Yeah, we're thumbing. You know, I have so many things I want to talk to you about today. I am huge fans of both of you, and I love your podcast, and I love your friendship, and I love you individually, and together as a unit. Oh, my God, see? Thank you. That's actually the only credit we need. Once I heard she listens to the pod, I was like, we can retire.

Yeah, we're done. What is there to do? It's only downhill from here. That's for sure. I'll tell you it is. We're going to talk about that, about how life goes downhill. No, but I talk to your moms, and, you know, so we have this thing on Good Hang, where we talk kind of about people behind their back

in a good way I Oh, that's very different for us She's like, your mom's had shit to say But they are so great They of course Love you so much What if they were like

The girls are monsters This is an intervention A lot And they had they had questions That I wanted to start our interview with Because I thought they were really important pertinent questions for the both of you Hannah Lenore wanted to know

are you pregnant and Paige that's a wild question and Paige Kim wanted to know um are you enjoying yourself oh that's such a her question two extremely difficult questions we can get to them later but they're hilarious questions no easy done not pregnant and not having fun not having a good time no but I I will say yes I'm having a great time like in the past year Hannah and I I feel like our careers have kind of taken a turn, but I would not be having this much fun if I wasn't doing it with Hannah. Like, I don't know if it would be the same experience at all.

I mean, I know it would have. It's a little Stockholm syndrome, what you're hearing from her. Okay, so for people listening, like my mom, who might not know Giggly Squad. Yeah. Can you guys quickly tell us how you came together? You're doing your podcast Giggly Squad, but how did you first meet and how are you?

you a team. Do you want to go or you want me to go? Okay, I'll begin. Also, by the way, we are in a, like, non-sexual marriage. So if we have the kind of interactions, like half of America, we're in a partner. Yes, the most of America. So we, and let me know if I'm overstepping Hage, but we're like, we'll talk about this later. You embarrass me in front of Amy. You embarrassed me in front of Amy. So, talk about that. So, anyway, giggly. We'll be sleeping on the couch. We're just trying to not explain what Giggly Squad is. People are like, they don't know what their own podcast is. No, Giggly Squad, it stemmed from Paige and I both got casted on a reality TV show, which was crazy. It was never what Paige wanted to be an entertainment reporter, I wanted

to be a stand-of comedian, and we found ourselves on reality TV, scared, alone, worried, but we like had this trauma bond from it. People liked our friendship, which is weird. It's weird for anyone to comment on you when they don't really know you. Totally. But for some reason, in the reality TV Zike guys, they were like Anna and Page are entertaining and relatable, I guess. Yeah, and I think we, like, obviously, we didn't know anything about reality TV. So, like, we would watch it back, and we would be like, oh, we feel like we were funnier, like, while we were filming, or we feel like people aren't really getting our friendship. I go, they definitely cut the best punchlines, but that's fine.

Because we'd be in the bathroom and we'd be, like, to the camera guy, like, hey, why don't you come with us, we're going to, like, really run a bit in the bathroom, and they're like, we don't care. We didn't realize that there's a basic. I don't have room for this. Yeah, there's a basic storyline, and they have to cut down to 42 minutes, and Paige and I are going on these callbacks, and we're, you know, there's nothing to do with the plot. And we're like, oh, that's definitely going to be in the show.

That was hilarious. And, like, of course, it's not in there. And then all my interviews, they'd be like, we need you to be angrier. And I was like, I don't even remember. I was drunk, so I don't know why I'd be mad. But fast forward, COVID hits. Yeah. And we're FaceTiming.

Everyone's depressed. Everyone's scared. Again, more trauma. And we're both home in our parents' houses. and we're like... With Lenore and Kimberly. Yeah, and we're like 28 years old and we're like, so what's going to happen

to us? Like, are we going to get married? Are we going to like start a business? Like, what's going to happen? Like all the COVID thoughts. Are we going to live? And so we would FaceTime for like four hours a day and we'd be like, we're funny.

Like, this is funny. People would think we're funny. And so then we were like, okay, let's just go on Instagram live. It was like the time when... That was a thing. That was a thing. Well, I'm a weird, like I have weird, blind spots about all that stuff because I just started doing social media like a couple years ago

because I was on I know it's no it sounds so beautiful I'm so old Amy we are so envious of you what is Instagram when I saw you on Instagram I was like oh no I know say goodbye to your innocence it's so true like I really and and but I know about Instagram live I think I've done a few but I never but it was a weird tie yeah it was very weird I remember the first time we went live Justin Bieber also went live and then we created John Mayer so we created a beef we were like they don't support women in the arts and they knew we were going live at this time and then they went like it was such a weird time it was so weird and so we went live every single night for three months 10 p.m. 10 p.m. for an hour that's how giggly squad started it was just the two of you just the two of us talking and it was

we were diligent 10 p.m. we were going on and people sometimes we'd mix a cocktail like and so it started where we'd have like 500 people watching then the next night it was like 2000 and then the next day it was like 5,000 and we were like wait this like what's going on and we had no like structure yeah no structure right and then nothing was happening every day what were we possibly talking about but we were in the yeah we were in the comments were so funny it was like this community of of women and gays that like wanted and just like curious straight men who which is the most dangerous kind of straight man yeah we don't want to be curious no no no no who are bored no some bad things happen no no are you bored go answer an email

So they would like comment all these funny things and we were like what is this community of like girls who were so funny and silly and it was this light and then We had to go film SummerHouse summer house and we had to stop doing the lives because we were locked in a house and then the world kind of opened up and we were like okay I guess we'll make it a podcast But like we had no like going into it we were like we should start a podcast together so it just kind of naturally happened I should have to debate I was like because I had been podcast for a bit. Right. And I was like, Paige, you should podcast. And she's like, I don't have a face for radio.

You can do that. That sounds like something you would do. We're going to have to build it. She goes, I'm not made for podcasting, but. I was like, have you seen my bone structure? That's such an insult to me to sort of run. I remember I haven't explained to her what podcast is. It's funny.

When I started this podcast, I'm like, oh, we have to shoot it now. Like now, I just had somebody come up the other day and say, oh, I just watched your podcast, which is like, it's kind of crazy how that's taken over. It's a different. Your clips are everywhere right now. And you've got to have those clips. You've got to have those clips. That's why we're not allowed to have too long conversations.

We've got to stop a quick. You're right. For 45 seconds. I'm just going to throw out a bunch of words. These are not my glasses, by the way. I forgot my glasses. She just stole it from a random person outside. But when you went back on Summer House after all that talk,

you must have felt psyched that you knew each other so well. Like you had gone from, you know, you had had a season, right? And then you shut down because of COVID. Two seasons. Two seasons. Then you shut down. And then during that time, your friendship grew. So you came back in knowing, like, oh, I'm with my friend.

We kind of always were like that. Like, oh, I have a friend. Because we were both new at the same time. So we already had that bond, like, that first day. And Hannah and I truly are so different in so many ways. But our humor is the exact same. So from the day we met, it was like, this is my best friend. Yeah.

Look at me getting dark. But I keep going, I'm starting to get dark. But I think you might understand this. In any kind of trauma you're going through, the only thing I've ever been able to control is laughter. So like in reality TV, there's multiple scenes where like I'm sobbing about something and then I'll try to crack a joke because it's the only thing that I can control. And that's something that I think Gigoo Squad is about is about taking your life less seriously

in spite all of, you can't control your relationships, your job, any of it. But we can choose to laugh instead of crap. And I think it's the elevator. To me, like, that takes you from the basement as, like, the fastest. If you can find a way to go from crying to laughing, it's hard, but it's a huge, like, it feels kind of like the fastest way to remember that life is a dream and that nothing matters, if you can get there. But it's, and it's with people that you can do it with people, like you can do it with people

that you trust. And it's kind of what we've been talking about, and this podcast is, it's so dark right now. Everything is really tough. And I just want to do for my own mental health and for others to do what I do in my personal life, which is to talk to my friends and laugh. And have a good hang.

And have a good hang. Everyone needs that one person in their life where it's like you can call them and they make you feel better about anything. It's like a spouse or like in my case it's Hannah. Like truly if anything happens to me like online that I'm like deep in I'm like, everyone hated my outfit. Like, you know, something, like, stupid.

She's like, this is the worst thing's ever happened to me. No, I'm like, I'll never financially recover from this. It was a sparkly boa. I'm like, they don't get it. I'm like, they don't get it. No pants is actually really in. Like, I can call a hand and say anything. And she really does, like, bring me back down to earth.

And, like, I will then, like, laugh at something. And then I'll be on to the next thing. So, like, I really feel like everyone needs that one person. Yeah. Where you can just call them. We also were going through very unique things. Like something would happen with reality TV that you can't talk to like your mom necessarily. I mean, you can and my mom's like, why did you do it?

Yeah. But Paige would be like, yeah, I did that last week and this is how I got through it. Yeah. So we've just had unique experiences. But Gigli Squad has become us talking about just the mundane, I think, and girls have connected with it. I bet you get asked a question like Tina and I used to get asked us all the time, which is what are you two fight about? Yeah. Nothing.

we've literally never and we work together too like the podcast is obviously a business so like will we have like business phone calls yeah like kind of it's not like we have like a set time where we're like let's talk business we've had like other people definitely try to get in the way of our friendship which leads me to the acon song nobody want to see us together but i don't matter no the fact that you had to break out into song i can't believe i just did that in front of ebos so embarrassing also that was definitely a copyright issue no also i'm i don't know this song. I'll send it to you after. I'm going to change your life. I do know Acon, I know who they are. But there's this kind of level of, there have been moments where people have tried to kind of

turn us against each other, which has like made us stronger in a way. Yeah. The only thing we've ever fought about is she has to stand on a certain side and it's so diva that it's I can't. We literally did the Vanity Fair Oscar party and my dress had like a

side and I was like, Hannah, I have to stand on this side. like my dress and she was and she looked at me in the eye and she goes I'll literally die that was the first time I ever stood up for myself and I said sorry she's okay she was a limited two model yeah she's got all good sides and all I wanted was to feel confident yeah on my day and one of my sides happens to be deformed and you're seeing it right now I disagree yeah I disagree there's a little just more fear going on there is a little bit but I know what you mean though a woman knows what what her side is and I wasn't going to solve the dysmorphia in that 10 minutes I was like you know it's so funny you brought that up because it means you still haven't moved forward from it

because that was weeks ago yeah well that's the thing about comedy is you have to depend you have to decide how much you're going to care yeah all the time when it comes to performing because I was a tennis player tennis was really like you're a winner or you're a fucking loser like you can't walk off the court you can be like I played well you're a it's a it's a it's a intense competition but tennis like I really dealt with like very result oriented so when I started doing comedy I was like oh this is art like I can I could be authentic and raw and if people don't like it's subjective it's subjective that's you're projecting on to me and and I'm so lucky I'm getting paid to be goofy where tennis I really felt like every day was judgment day yeah so comedy

I've kind of retrained my brain to be like you don't have to be mean to yourself like you were with tennis. So I, because I feel like I've lived a couple lives before comedy. With comedy, I've been, I've been really nice to myself. And I think, I hope other people can do the same if they're being mean to themselves with, like, how they're doing in their careers. I think that what you're saying is really important because so much of being funny is being relaxed. And it's like less about content. Yeah. Not to shit on comedian. Let's do it. I don't like when comedians take it so seriously.

I'm like, if the audience laughs, you did a great job. I can make it myself like this. Let's be serious. It's like when you're in a comic club and all of them. She's like, okay, get out of here. This isn't a port-a-pot with Amy Pollard. But the, but. I'm mortified.

But when you go backstage and all the men, it's usually meant. Sometimes women, but it's like with their headphones on, like pacing, going over their set and it's like, I saw your set. It's okay. It's not that great. It's okay. They're like pre-gaming to Eminet. It's pretty tough to talk to stand-ups in general. Oh, yeah, because we have the improv world. Because they are just always performing at you

and they're also either having done a set or about to do a set and they're just trying to figure out what went wrong and so they're just staring at like right past you doing their bit and it's tough. Every now and then I practice my bits on page without her knowing, which is super annoying. That's a very stand-up. She knows.

I started, I didn't get a microphone. Because my thing is a page last. I'm like, you make me light you in five minutes. What are you talking about? But I have become aware that like it's really annoying to constantly just be wanting to take laughter from people. And there has to be this vulnerability. It's annoying.

Yeah. It feels like, you know, you have to be. be aware that sometimes people feel like your audience rather than, you know, but do you, what is your relationship to being funny because you're very funny? Okay. My whole personality has been built out of spite because when I was younger, my brother is so funny. His timing is great. He's so smart.

He just, like, knows when something's going to hit. So my dad would always be laughing at my brother, and he's, like, five years older than me. And I started to get so frustrated. I was just like, dad, I'm all so frustrated. funny and my dad was like well haven't made me laugh he goes you're beautiful yeah like you're beautiful you can't read stay in your lane and I and so I would get so annoyed he's older and smarter and older and smarter but my brother always loved comedy so like I would always watch stand-ups I always knew who like famous comedians were and so then just like over time I think just hanging out with my brother

and my dad like I got certain timing yeah but I was never like outwardly funny like I don't think in school anyone would have described me as like oh she was like so funny in class it really wasn't until I met Hannah that I feel like I was more open about being funny yeah like my friends would say yeah like she's funny sometimes where now I'm like if you don't think I'm funny I hate you like then you don't get me then you don't get like right my personality how people can be mirrors to you like yeah surround yourself with people that I mean your dad now is like page you're hilarious how do we not know But a lot of friends I'd be with, like, they don't want you to be funny or that's not how they see the world.

But I could never do stand up the way she does. I think she can't. I think you could. I just have to say, I don't think women should say anymore. I could never do anything. Yourself. You're so right. You can do.

I could do it. I don't want to stand. I don't want to stand up there. She doesn't want to stand for more than 20 minutes ever. With no chair? Get a grip. That's her. In this economy?

You could Dave Chappelle it and sit with a cigarette. I would love that. That's exactly right. The jewel. A mango jewel. Just get an IV while you do it and sit there and just get other things done. You get your nails done for three hours a week and you can't stand once a week. Actually, that would be amazing if you got your nails done.

That would be amazing. That is stand-up. I'm like, I have to fit it in. It does. It takes a while. I really relate because Tina and I are on tour and I want to talk about your tour. And we have, I pushed her. I was like, let's do stand-up.

And Tina was like, we don't really. really? And I was like, but we do. And also we can. And also, let's just keep trying it and try new material and use this section to try new stuff. Well, with us, with our tour, we do a lot of improv, but then whenever a joke really hits, we keep it. So it's basically like you're doing improv, but then being able to save everything that works and doing it again. It's just such a different, it's a different form of comedy, but the hard port's done. You're funny. I'm always so suspicious of when people start gatekeeping stuff as being really hard. I mean, with the exception of like science and like real heart stuff like math things that you have to do in

school for more than five years are we respecting science on this pot yeah okay we believe in science and I said it for the first time of that like I would have never even thought to go on a tour or even been or said like yeah I want to do this if it wasn't for Hannah being like page you can go out on a stage and like be funny what do you like and not like about being on tour I always say like the beginning like before we go out on stage when we're in the green room is my favorite part because Because that's when we're just, like, waiting to, like, go do something. It's so funny you say that. Your mom's brought that up.

Really? That, like, Kim being on tour, she was saying the best part. I always tell people, the best part is before you are on stage. And it's just the two of you getting hair makeup, just, like, getting ready. It's like we're waiting to, like, go to a party or something. Except every now on the page started this thing. She likes to show up in, like, her sweats. I'm an athlete.

She used to look like she's practicing. She's like, let's not get dressed. up until right before but I'm not organized so I show up with my sweats and then I take out my backpack and I'm like I left my left heel in the hotel this is really really really really and I forget clothes all the time where pages are perfect outfit this describes tour we were in Denver we had just started our tour I know we're about to go out on stage in like 15 minutes and I'm like no I think I'm I think I'm having a panic attack my hands are numb I'm crying I'm throwing up i'm like yeah no i'm having a panic attack hannah's trying to like play spa music in the

background she's like found on youtube spa music and i just put it at her face hey is this helping i'm like not at all i'm literally in the midst of crying tears are running down my face i realize that hannah has forgotten her shirt that she's wearing out on stage so she's gonna wear like this silk pajama shirt that like the venue had given us like this merch i can't even speak and the only I can get out is you can't wear that shirt on stage and she looks over at me and she's like you're having a panic attack and you're going to tell me what I'm going to wear luckily I had like a t-shirt in my bag that was like extra whatever and I was like put this on she put that on her outfit was fine and then I got out of my panic attack like that but that's a great example of like you're she got

you so after a lot of beta blockers and dan and let's also she facetimes her mom because she's like hena this isn't working on facetim and kim so I'm just listening supporting and all I hear is Paige, stop. Page, stop it. You're fine. Yeah. Paige, you're fine. She hangs up. We start dying laughing.

We were like, your mom just told you to stop. She's like, panic attacks aren't real. And that's two generations of women. She's like, back in my day? Yeah. We sucked it up. Okay. Well, that is true.

We never even had the word anxiety. Yeah. And you did S&L. And we had a high school boyfriend who used to get stomach aches. And we were like, huh, I wonder why. And he would just be up all night. No, you realized it was because of you. And we worried.

the second you broke up he's like my stomach feels great he's like he totally went away and I was like okay I wonder what it was and he used to be up all night worried about the future get stomach aches and everyone was just like I don't know I hope you fix that it was no discussion you bring up relaxation a lot in this episode I was wondering because you've dealt with some of the most high pressure

live performances in energy entertainment period. Do you have any advice for us when you feel like your career is hanging by a thread and you have five seconds to give something funny? I've never taken a beta blocker and a lot of people have told me about those. I would be worried it would slow me down. Yeah. Okay, so here's the thing why I like it. It's not for anxiety. It's for blood pressure. So like it doesn't do anything to your brain. She's a drug pusher. No, I'm a jerk pusher. Because I am very against Xanax. I don't like the way Xanax makes me feel. You have to really, really be careful. Yeah, I didn't like that. Where when I took a

beta blocker before I went out on stage, it just took away my hand sweating. So that's why I like it. It's good with physical reactions. You know when you're so over-prepared for a performance, but you know your body's going to turn on you right beforehand and you're going to get the shakes and your lips quivering.

Beta-blocker, for me, I've taken, it just calms your heart rate, so I feel more normal but not your brain. It depends on the first. I took it. Did I take it? I didn't take it for Fallon. I took her for my Netflix special. Yeah. Great special, by the way. Thank you.

I was having a lot of like panic because I felt like it was a make or break career moment for me and I blew it out of proportion in my head. But I've never experienced that level of performance before and stand-ups never recorded. So I just went to a dark place in my head. I'm like, what if I blank? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I feel like my anxiety tends to come after I do something. I get a little kind of zoning. before and then after I get very fluttery and nervous and it's a little bit like was that good did I do it like I kind of check out I disassociate which our Jen is really good at it's really healthy yeah um you know like just float above your body yeah and get out of your body and then when I'm like sucked back into my body that's when I get shaky after something more than before something it's almost like I get the the after shot your adrenaline comes down yeah yeah did I say that right did I disappoint everyone was it good

do, yeah, did I even do it? Like, did it even happen? Oh, so we're dark, really? Yeah, if you guys try this associating? What planet are we are? Just me, just don't be there. I don't even remember the 90s. Yeah, I think you guys are trying to be too present.

Like, you're trying to be too in the moment. Be out of the moment. Be out of the room. I do think because our generation is so aware of mental health, we're always trying to like, be like, okay, this is anxiety and this is PTSD and this is OCD. And a lot of it is true. but then there's a moment where it's like, and now let's, how do we cope

to not let it beat us and not let it suppress who we want to be. Well, I think, and I'm sure, like from your athlete days, like there is a thing about your brain and, you know, everyone has different capacities for this. So I realize that, but there is something about your brain where if you start to tell your brain something, you can trick your brain for a short amount of time

to get the thing done. And yes, if you start labeling the different, like anxiety, OCD, this is this, this is this, it's happening again, you're starting to tell your brain, like, we have it. We're doing it. We're doing it again. We're here. We're doing it again. There is a little trick. Sometimes it works for me where being excited and being anxious are the same physical symptoms, physical feelings. So if you say, look at how excited I am rather than how anxious I am. It isn't help when you're like at the dentist or something. And you're like, I'm so excited to be at the dentist.

They say a little bit of anxiety, especially in sports, is good. And it helps you actually perform at more focused level. So a little anxiety is important. Like if you're ever not nervous before a gig, I get a little nervous. I'm like, someone's about to be Lucy Goosey. Yeah. Yeah. That actually helped me when we were on tour, like

after my first panic attack, and then I would take a beta blocker before. Like, I'd be like, shoot, I hope it doesn't happen again. Hannah would always say to me, like, it's good to be a little nervous. You care about what you're doing. And that truly would, like, calm me down. Yes.

She'd also push me out on stage. I would literally launch her, like, bunt kick her onto the stage. She'd be like, you're adrenaline, we'll kick in. We hope so. Here you go. Go ahead, honey, you got it. And also, doesn't it help you?

Because taking care of somebody is a great distraction. Oh, I wasn't the problem for like the first time ever. But I was like forgetting my shirt because I was so obsessed with like, is Paige okay? Well, you might have a little ADHD because you said you forget your shoe. I wish you didn't say that because I could talk about this forever. But it's all she says to me. She's like, well, I suffer from ADHD.

And I'm like, I've never seen a doctor. I wouldn't say suffer. I would say I thrive. You live with it. I thrive. I'm like, you've never seen a doctor. You've only been given TikToks about this. And so I really need you to not, to stop bringing it up.

You're right. Everyone on TikTok tells me that I have it or that they have it or we all have it. Yeah, it is. I mean, but that is how I diagnose most things. Yeah. I'm like, no, you just want to sleep an extra hour. you don't have ADHD, you literally just press snooze. No, I told my other friend, I was like, I think I have ADHD, and she was like,

yeah, everyone knows that about you. And I was like, no one told me this whole time? You know, Kim from Paper Kite, she had a really, one of our producers, she had a really great thing where she said, you can tell you have ADHD if someone says, we have to leave in five minutes or we're going to miss the flight, and someone says, all right, let me just take a shower. That's her. That's the only time I start cleaning.

I'm like, this cup shouldn't be here. We have to leave in five minutes. It's like, great, let me take a shower. And it's like, what? Yeah. That is, that's a good indication that maybe time is more of a concept. That's so true. You always do, you always have to go to the bathroom when we have to leave.

Yes. I also will, like, leave the shower just shaving one leg and find out like two days later. But these are all the things that make me beautiful. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely special and beautiful.

And then what, and then is there anything that you have, Paige, like, when I make a mistake? Yeah. I feel like for me, I, I think maybe this is because. of reality TV, I'm very quick to want to like defend myself of like, oh, no, I didn't make a mistake. You're just not seeing it from my perspective. And like what I meant to do was this or what I meant to say was this. And I feel like in my 30s, I've not mastered at all, but I've worked harder to be like, and not everyone is going to like me. And I don't need everyone to like me. I don't like everyone. I thought you can say, I don't like me. Yeah, well, that too. I'm like,

imagine hating on me and I'm at home hating on me so I feel like I've had to like overcome that of like not everyone is going to like you and not everyone is going to think you're funny and not everyone's going to love your outfit and that's okay because you think you're funny and you like what you're wearing and so that's been like a struggle I think reality TV like brought that up because really like the human brain I'm not supposed to see 200 people commenting how much they hate me like I'm not seen that has no context yeah like I'm not supposed to As a human, I'm not supposed to be able to read that. No.

And there's like this new thing on TikTok where it's like, we were never meant to see ourselves. Like mirrors were like invented. Like we were never supposed to see what we look like. Yes. And I feel like that with being so public and like social media, we really weren't supposed to see how people feel about us. And so I think that's how. And you heard that saying what other people think of you is none of your business.

I was about to say our new thing is saying, it's on my business. It's a fantastic way. Right. And I mean, but when you're on a show, like you're still on Summerhouse, like, that's hard to. Because you have to talk about people in real time. You have to hear. And then for a year after, like, you don't get to move on until a year after. Because everyone else is seeing it. Because people are like talking about who you are as a person. Yeah. And I'm like, no, no, no, let me explain that one moment. And it's like, no, no, I don't need to explain that one moment. No one care. Yeah, but being misunderstood is, it's painful. It's painful. But I really feel like people who want to misunderstand you will And people who want to understand you will And that's like how you get a little piece with it Do you ever talk about, do you ever clarify things about the show on your podcast? I've never said, I've never said what actually happened in my last season.

We've never spoken about Summer House. We've never, we don't honestly because when we started, we were like one of the first podcasts to come out of Bravo. I think maybe there was like one or two. others and they were really adamant of like this is not a bravo podcast do not speak about bravo and we were like totally fine with us like we weren't going to anyway we wanted it to be more pop culture and so now people are kind of surprised if they find us from bravo because they're like they never talk about bravo and it's like well we weren't allowed to in the beginning and now like

yeah it doesn't really go with who we are and like what we talk about so it's actually better that way yeah i mean it definitely does you're practicing what you're saying which is you just kind of letting go of things that you can't have control over. Because then it would be too in the wee. It's too much. Also, it's funny you brought up mistakes because I feel like, I don't know I'm going to speak for you, but like I

really have just failed upwards. Does that make sense? You've been fired so many times. And I love, every time. And I love sports quotes. And I'm sorry to say this, but we're going to ask me. We need to ask you to leave right now. I manifested it accidentally.

But not to do like a Georgia. quote but like they say like of all the shot. Why, Timmy does a Jordan. Timmy wants to be like Jordan. You're like Jordan. You're like Jordan. Yeah. Timmy. Charter Ray.

Okay. So he, need to stop. So I have ADHD. So he, um, he missed like a ton of the like shots to win the game. But people don't remember those. They remember the one he made. Well, you know what? Yeah.

You don't worry about doing a Jordan quote. I'm pretty sure that was when you didn't do a Jordan quote. It was win dress. As I was saying it. It was. And people. It looks me in the Iowa. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take was Wayne Gretzky and not Jordan.

But I bet Jordan did say something about shots. But I'm sure they're friends and they like each other. So it's all fine. Okay, I'm never going to say a quote again. With that said. And Obama actually said, grab your hockey sticks, kids. Marilyn Monroe, you miss 100 shots.

Marilyn Monroe used to say. Audrey Hepburn. Audrey Everett said You miss 100% of the shots you don't take Wait, can we also tell them We misquoted Amy Poehler in our book We also didn't ask permission Did a full quote with Amy Poehler

Said it wrong Wait, that's actually so funny Because my brother literally saw the back And was like, you didn't ask my permission And I was like, what are you going to sue me? Oh, because your brother has a quote on the back of the book Yeah, but I like wrote it like four him We got some fun quotes in the back of our book

my sister isn't that funny that's his quote I wrote that but we didn't like wrote it did you not think it did you not think it okay you talk about pop culture

on your podcast because of that I want to just throw things out to you speed round tell me your thoughts and opinions there's no wrong answers here okay okay like the last thing I did

she got that wrong but hopefully you do better this time incredible okay Veneers I don't think they ever look good Never? I think maybe there's like two people in Hollywood where I'm like, wait, they have really good veneers

but like a normal person who can't afford it. Do you? Oh, they look great. No, you wouldn't know. Because you obviously have access to a great doctor. The normies out here shouldn't get them. Too big, too white. Too big.

When did you get them? Well, I guess or consider veneers. I had a chip too. okay and um when I went that's the story you're going with she goes I was in a bar fight yeah I got um I broke my nose in a car accident and um I have a science infection and I hit a tear and I yeah I had a chip tooth when I got on SNL and I thought no big deal whatever like that's hilarious yeah yeah exactly like who cares and then I saw myself on camera and I gasped

I was like oh no like I look and so I got my teeth fixed I got veneers when I was on SNL so you would never know just two but I have them. If you didn't get into Hollywood, do you think you've gotten veneers? Wow, that's a good question. Maybe not. I don't think so. I think like, you know, where I came from in Massachusetts and like, I don't know if I, I think I would just wouldn't mind my chip. But seeing yourself on camera is a different. You know how like people hate hearing their own voice, like even in a voicemail. I'm like, imagine watching yourself on TV. You're like, that's what I present to the world. It's a, like, it's crazy. It's a real mind.

Okay, so you've got to be careful at veneas. I get nervous when people shave it down and they have little like nubs. Yeah. That makes me nervous. I think that that doesn't happen as much anymore. I think they've really taken it back. They don't go such a shoot. We don't know the science by that.

We don't know anything about veneers. We don't know anything about it, but we hate them. And I also have to say both of you, if I may, you both have great teeth. I think you're going to say you both need them. So that's crazy. I have a doctor. I'd like to talk to somebody who does. Dr. Keene, Beverly Hills.

Um, you both have great teeth. So talking about veneers with great teeth isn't really fair. Yeah. True. Okay. Some of us don't have great teeth. Gell nails. Yes.

Yeah. Okay. Yes. You love them. We love them. We love them. But you're taking off of them. That's the thing.

You just let them grow out. I was just going to say we never take them off. We never take it off. We just rego. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um, how do you feel about running?

From what? What problems are you running from? Yeah. Who are you running from? What? We can do. Pilates. That's a workout laying down with BDSM equipment. Actually, I'm going to... We're not running.

The only time I run is to get away from a man. Okay, how do you feel about people who love dogs? Okay, you did that. You did, no, that was mean. You did on purpose. No, why? Do I notice it? Because we're cat people and people are, it's very controversial. Oh, okay, right, right, right, right. Okay, people who love dogs, I love dogs. Yeah.

I foster senior pets all the time. Get that on. clip that people who people love dogs I love people who say they hate cats yeah I don't like that's not nice that's not nice they've never had a cat they don't know it's always the dog people they're like I love dogs but then scruffy scratched me when I was four I hate cats I hate cats and it's like cats just want your consent I you're right it's people think it's okay to say they hate cats that's yeah it's horrible I love cats PR though like I love that they're hated publicly because like that's their vibe yeah they like they like they like they like they like that if you hate cats you hate women and now we've said it i wasn't going to say it i said it

and now we've gone there on the pod when you're talking about traveling how early do you like to get to the airplane to the airport for flight okay that's another reason why i think we're pretty compatible we have the same flight time we're very big on boarding time we like to know the boarding time and we like to be there an hour before it boards i also am very lucky where i live in new york I'm 20 minutes from LaGuardia So I kind of roll out of bed That's great The world's best airport

And I'm besties with the clear people I get high fives from them They're like, no, no, good luck this weekend And I They're paid to bring you in You don't think they care You don't think they care Those clear people are passionate

They are your name They look at my soul The screen says your name That's how they know it They didn't remember it But They get paid for every person That goes through

They go Minneapolis You know everything about me me they're like I'm looking at your flight information ma'am so yeah we're the same we keep each other yeah we're a pretty similar traveler oh that's really important it's really important okay what about avocado toast I think avocado ruins a lot of really good things really this is page's hot take she's page the people are going to be so mad I know I think that I don't know what year we were like let's throw avocado on every sandwich but I wish I paid attention more and stopped it because I don't need avocado on my turkey sandwich. It was gorgeous years prior. It's

been a turkey sandwich forever. I don't need it now to be turkey and avocado. You don't have a mature palate. Just say it. Do you have like a baby palette? Like a little kid palette? No, don't listen to her. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I will try way more things than her. And what do you do? I will try. I feel like I eat way more things than you. Like try way more things. Not true. You eat Mexican food and that's it. I do get hyper-fixated on a meal.

And if I like it, I'll eat it for a couple weeks. A couple years. Then I'll change. You've been having changed it for seven years. Look, I don't recommend it before a show. That's all I'm going to say. What is your favorite kind of sandwich? If you can have a perfect sandwich.

Bacon, egg and cheese. I'm so New York. On what? Ooh, good question. anything, but like everything bagel, roll, just baking, just baking cheese. Perfect sandwich would be like prosciutto, mozzarella cheese, a little olive oil and vinegar on like a hard, like good baguette. Spoken like a person has their real teeth.

I can bite into that. Can you not bite into stuff? Well, you have to be careful when you have an ear. You have to go a little slower. Like you don't want to get, you don't want to come up on an apple too fast. Got it. Because they do, they can pop up. Yeah, they can pop up anywhere.

Okay, and the last one is women who ask men to marry them. Picking your partner is the most important thing you do in your life. I'm not just willy-nilly waiting for a guy to spring it on me. I'm sitting down and having a serious discussion if you want to spend the rest of your life with me. Yes, and the bigger thing of like, what do we expect, like expecting to be chosen? and waiting to be chosen rather than choosing. It's complicated. But also, but also, I do think there's a thing sometimes where, I mean, and, you know, straight cis marriage is a whole other conversation.

Like, who cares? Boring. No, it's very boring. It is. It's not cool. It's chugie. Getting marriage is chugie now. Yeah.

Are we still saying chugie? No, that was chughey with me. It's funny because we also talk on the pod, like, obviously Hannah's married. And so, like... We don't like to talk about it, though. It's very off-brand. It's so crazy. Why she just expose me?

My husband, I'm like, what? You have a husband? We say boyfriend. But, like, we talk about how, like, people expect you to look the best you've ever looked on your wedding day, and then, like, you'll never be that skinny or pretty ever again. Like, this is your one day or, like, it's the best day of your life. And I remember Hannah's wedding, she was like, this is a great. day but like I've had better like you know like I've had a day like when she filmed her

Netflix special she was like this is truly the best day I was high on beta blockers but it was an amazing day I think we're in a generation where it is like a little it's shifting a little bit where it's like okay your wedding day and your marriage isn't the best thing you're ever going to do your whole life and that's really put on women yeah where it's like this is the best you're ever going to look this is the best weekend you're ever going to have everyone's here for you this is the last time that's ever going to happen yeah so like the whole proposal thing and like a girl doing it to a guy there's a he hasn't said that he likes you then that's why you're doing it i feel like well i do feel like what you what you to speak about a lot and i feel like is that's what kind of

what i mean about the freedom that comes from the women that are coming up behind me is that the the discussion about how gas lit we are all the time yeah that's that's a kind of it, the discussion in real time about how we get these crazy mixed messages all the time and it's like push and pull back and be this way but say what you want but it's like

constant. I mean being a female comedian is a fuck you to the system. They don't want you to call people out, say things that are out of line, make people uncomfortable. That's what we do as comics. Make you think, take up space. That's why I love being a female comedian.

And yeah, we get pushed back a lot. But that's, like, what are choices. This is the life I want to live. And I also think it's so cool you talked to our moms before because generationally, they only had so many options. I joke that icks are popular now because, like, back then, you barely had a credit card. You couldn't have an egg with your husband.

He literally couldn't divorce your husband. It was illegal. Yeah, he starts singing happy birthday at a restaurant. You're like, la, la, la, la. Nowadays, if a guy gets like a little baby spoon, like me do my stand-up, a little baby spoon eating an ice cream, you're like, yeah, divorce. I'm taking all the money that I made. Yeah, like, get out of my house.

And I'm taking the money that we never share. Okay, speaking of laugh, before you leave, I'm asking people what they're laughing at these days. What do you, like, look at, read, go see. I mean, I know you make each other laugh, Hannah. Hannah's text messages. When Hannah really goes off, here's the thing. Can you share a text message? This is when I know.

No, she's smart. She does voice notes. This is when I know. I know. I thought that was a boomer thing. Voicnotes are... Oh, we love a voice note. But they disappear, and then you can never love a voice note.

This is what I know... We would be in jail. Yeah. This is what I know Hannah's husband isn't in the city. Hannah's voicemoting me like crazy. She's like, and then I figured this out, and then I saw this and oh my God, I haven't brought this up to you. My mom will be like, you've been voice noting page for two hours.

Pick up the phone. Yeah. But that's invasive. I don't like the phone. I don't like to talk on the phone. No. And I don't like when people FaceTime me out of the blue. Yeah, that's aggressive.

But I think you guys don't mind it as much. We don't, but we are respectful of each other's boundaries. We're respectful, but once, if one of us does FaceTime each other out of the blue, it is the first thing we say when we answer the phone. Like, oh, okay. What's going on? Yeah, someone must be dead. But that's why there's not more female pilots because we don't like a dispatcher in our ear.

We don't want to hear it. Text me. Yeah, I know where I'm going. Thanks. Thanks, I know we're going. Stop mansplaining how to land the plane. Wait, we also started doing this thing because, like, we stay in hotels all the time with each other. They're, like, anytime one of us has to go to the other one's room, we think of, like, a line we're going to say when we open the door.

Like, we have to have a bit going into it. Totally. I was wearing a tie. I think it was before we met you and we opened the door and I was like, I'm selling you insurance. And she was like, I just puked her. She said something. No, I was like, I think I'm pregnant. This is the thing.

Life is sad. So if you don't have a friend making you laugh, what are we here for? 100%. And what, so what do you, okay, so Paige gets Hannah's text to make her laugh. What makes you laugh? Paige doesn't really make me laugh that much. Imagine this is where she finds out. I actually don't really enjoy the pod with her.

No, Paige 100% makes me laugh so much. make each other laugh for what else okay like what TV are we watching and like what do you do at night or like I just watched Detroiters I thought it was the funniest thing ever yeah so funny Sam Richardson I love comics who are really different from me it's more I'd get more like it's more admirable because I'm like I could never do that so then I think it's really funny I love watching stand-ups who did I just watched two stand-ups this week I watched Chelsea Handler's I watch Bert Krishner's um honestly anything on tith. TikTok. Like, TikTok is funny.

Really funny. Like, TikTok is the only social media app where when I log on to it, I never click my own profile and I never click my notifications. You're not rewatching your videos to be like, was that funny? No. I'm never rewatching. We're on Instagram. I'm obsessed with myself. I'm like, my story is so aesthetic today. My grid has never looked better. I'm commenting at everyone where TikTok I really go to it to just laugh same I I I said this many times but especially in the pandemic wrapping back around in the pandemic yeah like that really saved me because it was lots of good comedy on you yeah you've been on TikTok oh yeah I I see you

commenting gassing up the girls well you're doing great also it was that hilarious moment where it was like everyone was leaving you know before we leave I'm gonna just tell a couple people that I you're so cute but there's so many funny people no there's so many funny people so many funny people i also as the creativity i'm like how did you even think of that that's hilarious the women are particularly so funny because i say that for female stand-ups it's hard to be in the clubs at night but that tic-tok is like a safe open mic yeah where girls can just like put their material out there's more funny women on ticot than there are men because i do feel like women are competitive with each other but there is a sense of like we feel safe with each other.

So it's like I know that my TikTok is majority girls. Yeah. So like when I put something out, I'm like, oh, it's the girls will think this is funny. So I think that's like where guys, I don't know, they don't have that relationship with other guys. Do you like making TikToks? Yeah, I love it.

Yeah, it's fun. I love it. And I feel like I just was on it for so long and really liked it that I feel like there's a way. I mean, my biggest fear was to come on as someone. like old lady being like like it the thing that drives me nuts are like people that are like I guess I should be doing this yeah and you're like beat it yeah it is actually like a culture of people that work really hard it's a lot of creators and it's it's all just comedy

in a different form yeah yeah yeah and having your stamp of approval legitimizes it yeah well I don't know about that but I love but I do love it and it is like it is chuggy and it is cringy like if I get it wrong but whatever who cares like Amy you've never made a mistake in your life also I can't wait to see you and Tina doing some TikToks on tour continuing well she doesn't love to do them really no so I always have to kind of convince her a little I feel like I'm the Tina I was good I didn't want to ask yeah you think so I think so because there's always a TikTok that handles like this is going to be so funny and I'm like get away from me yeah and whoever is the quieter one right yeah yeah I also just have to say shout shout

out to animals. Animals are the most effortlessly, like, I'll never be funnier than like a baby goat. Yeah. I've been trying to tell you that. You may look like one, but you're not. I go, I'm not following a baby goat. I'm not following them. They're effortless.

They don't care. They're everything we want to be. When we were on the Vanity Fair red carpet, we were the first to get our picture taken because we were literally there first. And so, like, me and Hannah are standing next to each other, and we just notice all the cameras go immediately off of us.

And we're already having imposter syndrome. And we're like, shoot, someone really famous must have walked in. They literally don't give a shit about us. It was a dog. It was a dog. It was a dog.

I go, I've waited my whole life for this moment and I'm losing to a dog. Was it a famous dog? We don't know. Was it a dog? We stopped asking questions. And then I saw the dog and I was like, I get it.

That's a beautiful dog. It was a lab. Grew up in a nice home. We were like, that tail blowout is better than that. Yeah. I'm like, how did the lab? I've got a Dyson Airwap.

And then it stood on the right side and it looked gorgeous. It took my job. It took your job. Thank you guys so much for doing this. This was so, so fun. Thank you for hanging with us, Amy. We love you. You know, I love you back.

And I just, I can't wait for all the big things ahead for both of you in all different areas of the business that you're working. And we feel the same about you. It sounds weird, but we feel like, are you just getting started? Oh, my God. Clip that. It would be such a great, fake title for this podcast. Like, just getting started. Just getting started?

Question mark. Amy Poehler, just getting started? Wait, why? Your face has to be like that for the joke. And then I'm like scales of justice and I'm holding like a baby bottle and like a tiny little grapstone. And I'm like. Just can't start it. I'm just

I'm hooked up to an IV. One of the sand clocks that just slowly going away of time. There's a guy. I'm going like, I'm like in a, I'm in a baby doll dress. And I'm going, just can't start it. And behind me is the Grim Reaper just waiting for me.

And Botox getting injected in the gym. The Grim Reaper. And I'm wearing pigtails, and I'm in, like, overalls? And I'm like, just getting started? Wait, it's a grimly person. All right, we renamed the podcast. We have fun here. All right.

Thank you guys so much. That was an awesome, super fun, fun, episode of Good, hang. I loved having the ladies here. It was a blast, and we talked a lot about a lot of things. And I love stand-up. comedy, despite maybe some of the things I said, the podcast, no, but I have great respect for it. And it made me think about the people that I'm watching. And I would, I would encourage everybody to check out Jordan Jensen if they haven't seen her work. She's a touring comedian right

now and really specific funny voice, just great with crowds, improvises all the time, deeply interesting, funny woman who, yeah, I just wanted to give a shout out to because I think she's great. So that's all. I never know how to finish these things. I never know how to end the podcast. So, okay, bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Katz-Belaine, Kaya Zanaris. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.