Good Hang with Amy Poehler - Selena Gomez

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

Amy hangs with actress, singer, and entrepreneur Selena Gomez to talk about the fake orange peels in her home, working with legends Steve Martin and Martin Short on ‘Only Murderers in the Building,��� and the adults who ride their suitcases through airports. Host: Amy Poehler Guests: Selena Gomez and Martin Short Executive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-Berman For Paper Kite Productions: Executive producer Jenna Weiss-Berman, coordinator Sam Green, and supervising producer Joel Lovell For The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson and Aleya Zenieris; audio producer Devon Baroldi and Nick Kosut; video editor Drew van Steenbergen; and booker Kat Spillane Original Music: Amy Miles Order Sephora on Uber Eats today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. We are very excited about our guest today. It is Selena Gomez, the multi-talented, incredible businesswoman and comedian and singer who is just a total delight. And we're going to talk about a lot of fun things today. We're going to talk about her incredible business and her success as the founder of Rare Beauty. We're going to talk about only murders in the building and working with legends and being one herself. We're going to talk about about Tejano music, her favorite kind and music that she listened to growing up. And we're going to get to know her grandmother's favorite recipe. All of that and more in this episode. But, you know, we always have guests tell us about our guests. We always talk well behind our guests back and have someone special to talk about them. And today we have, well, one of my comedy legends, a person who came on an early episode of this show and who a lot of people don't know has totaled my car three times.

Martin Short. Marty? This message is brought to you by Apple Card. Each Apple product like the iPhone is thoughtfully designed by skilled designers. The titanium Apple Card is no different. It's laser etched, has no numbers, and earns you daily cash on everything you buy,

including 3% back on everything at Apple. Apply for Apple Card on your iPhone in minutes. Subject to credit approval, Apple Card is issued by Goldman Sachs Bank, USA, Salt Lake City Branch, Terms and More at AppleCard.com. Get up. What do you say? All I ever wanted was a really good hey. Hi, baby. Thank you for coming back. I was just saying. Hey, by the way, I loved our show. Me too. It was such a hit. Nothing was funnier than when you called me a motherfucker.

Where are you? I'm in Toronto. Oh, fantastic. You know, I think I told you I went to Canada a lot in the summers, and it was always cold, but is it warm there right now? Do you know, it got insanely hot because we're spiraling toward the sun. Yeah. And it got very hot and very humid. No, the late got to be 81.

I know you don't believe it. That's good. And I know you'd still call that a cold plunge, but not for Canadians. Have you cold plunge since we talked? No, ma'am. Oh, well, I can tell. You can tell by the skin? I can tell by your disposition.

Very fiery. You know what? By the way, fuck off, okay. We're going to talk to Selena today, who I don't think I've ever really met. Really, she's absolutely lovely. I know, and I want to tell her, you know, this part of the show is like talking well behind somebody's back. Who are you talking to, brother? You.

Like you're talking to? Oh, just me? Yeah, you're the person I'm talking to. Do you think this was just me calling you? You have to let me know when we're recording, because if we're recording all this. We're recording right now. What? Okay.

I'm glad I'm talking you about Selena because I remember when we were together, I said, what's it like working with her? And you were like, she's great. Like you said, she's just a doll. And I remember thinking, oh, it's so good to hear because that's the vibe I got from her and wanted it so much to be true. But I do feel like you can tell a lot about somebody by how they work. Yeah, I mean, the thing is about Selena is that she is just an old pro.

I had never met her the first day we shot. And we had zoomed and it was because of COVID. You know, you just have to zoom all the time. And as I'm driving there, I'm thinking, what is Selena Gomez going to be like? What if she's a nightmare? What if she's mean to people? It's kind of rude. Like I knew if she was late, 40 minutes late every day,

Steve would say very good one season. I don't care how big a success I'm not doing it. Yeah. And so right away, I met her in the makeup room. And she smiled at me and I went, oh, we're fine. Yeah. And she's just been a dog.

We've really, really become very, very close. I just adore her. I'm so happy that she's getting married to this fabulous guy, Benny Blanco, who's just one of the great, cool guys and funny and loose. And she adores him. And I don't know. I'm just thrilled for her happiness. and I'm thrilled to get to work with her every day.

Yeah, well, you know, I know that she gets asked a lot what it's like, like what she's learned from working with you and Steve, but what have you learned from working with her? I knew everything. Yeah, it looks like nothing. Looks like you've stopped learning. I learned you can, like, order an egg with caviar on it

and not be a shame. It's important. Caviar egg. You never gave yourself permission to do that before. I didn't. And I don't know what I was waiting for. First of all, I don't like you. But secondly, it was, I'm me.

And you know, that's my new book. I'm me, Cohen. I deserve this. The actual working title is I is me. I did a special once called I'm Martin Short goes Hollywood. A little bit of bad grammar is the funniest thing in the world. So funny. So funny. Now, do you have to have extra security because you work with Selena, like on set and stuff?

Because you guys shoot in New York a lot, which is not fun. Yeah, yeah. She has a security person. We have a security person. But what's amazing is if we shoot on the street, which is not often, but certainly happens a lot. That doesn't make any sense. Not often, but happens a lot. Anyway, you know, Steve and I are working and doing a scene, they might be night. nine guys there kind of disinterested for about 40 minutes and then they walk away. And you never, ever see those pictures. When Selena joins us, there's about 120 paparazzi and they're there all day. And I'm sure they're just waiting for her to fall or stumble or mean, you know, that would, therefore they could, you know, make more money from it. So she's just been, that's been her life.

I don't think. And she does have security on the streets, we all do, but she is so lovely with them. And they've been in her life for so long. And the only time I ever saw her get a little stern is when they were a little abrupt to like this 14-year-old fan of hers. And she never do that. Yeah. You know, you can't fault her. Yeah.

You really said, okay, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what's really bad about it. You can't, there's no way to. And the other thing I do want to talk to her about today is, I mean, she's the founder of a hugely successful business. And, you know, just because we've all grown up with her, I think people think she's younger than she is. I mean, she's a 33-year-old woman running a billion-dollar business.

We once compared each other's net worth. And I told her what my net worth was. and she went, oh, that's so cute. It's just adorable. You guys both wrote it on a piece of paper and just slipped it to each other. I went like this. Wow.

And she went like this. You know what? It's amazing. I've never seen her. I mean, she has literally like, I don't know, 490 million Instagram followers. I've never seen her overrun by it all. collapsing from the pressure of it all

and so a question for her might be is it ever overwhelming and too much I also think another thing to ask her about her music you know she's this massively successful singer-songwriter and but I don't think I ever asked her in detail enough for real early influences

and what was the first song that she fell him up with. I love that. On set, is there singing? When Jane Lynch was on, there's always singing. Yeah. Steve sometimes will bring his banjo. You know what I say about the banjo? Banjo makes people who play the jug say,

really? But anyway. But no, there's not a lot of singing. There's a lot of gossip. It doesn't have to be true. Yeah, just make it up. You know what I heard. Okay, I'm going to ask her about her early musical influences.

That's a good question, I think. And I do want to talk to her about her successful business because I do think that, you know, not to get too heavy, Marty, but in our patriarchal society, I think we like totally, you know, we don't treat female-run businesses, especially by young women, especially in the beauty space as a serious business. And it is crushing everything else. When I look at not only what Selena's done, but what you've done and what Tina's done, I find myself very proud of you, ladies.

Well, that seems weird and patronizing. Proud of us. I am proud because... Why, you're a moody. My dad? No, I just feel like, you know, because you could just be saying, you want cream in that coffee? but you're not. This doesn't feel good.

I'm trying to be as kind as a condescending guy can be. I love you. So much. I remember God, but I will repeat it a mummer off. Oh.

It's from the S&L 50th. Oh. Don, God, I can't wait. My phone is standing by. Actually, you have my cell. Yeah. You have mine.

It's what? Call you? I don't like to talk on the phone. Can you just text it to me? No, no, no. It's too long. Oh, my God. Kids, what is wrong with the phone with you kids?

I don't like talking on the phone. A phone call feels... First of all, we're not going to... This isn't going to be the length of Shoa. It was a brief little story. To me, a phone conversation. phone call is bad news. Like, why am I on the phone?

No, no, no, no. But it's this, and I, again, oh, my God, I so don't mean this condescendingly negatively. But is your thing about the phone because you really don't like it or because you read, Share doesn't like the phone? Well, you know that I try to not like anything

that Share doesn't like. I know. You know how I do. I know. I would, you know, it just snap me. Just Snapchat me. Okay, I'm not, you know what, this is too boring. I'm not giving you this information.

I can't. Shit, okay. I'm calling you right now. I'm calling you right now. Okay, hanging up so I can get this. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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Order Sephora on Uber Eats today. Offer ends October 30th, one order per customer. Additional terms apply. See app for availability. Delivery fees may apply. Selina Gomez is here. I kind of wanted to start today by saying like I feel like so many people talk to you about the past. They want to talk to you about things that happen. But I want to stay in the present. Yes. And to talk about the future. I know. Because your present is. pretty amazing right now. Thank you so much. Congratulations on the past couple of years. I appreciate it.

Yeah, it's been wonderful. I didn't want people. I genuinely appreciate you saying that because it's, people are going to think I'm permanently anahdonic of just not enjoying anything in life. Wait, what's that word? Anahonic, meaning unable to enjoy things. Wow. And I really wanted, I really loved this era.

Yeah. if you will. The past five years have been wonderful. Super creative for you. Yeah. It's just been a gift that keeps giving from only murders to rare. All of it's just, I can't, I have to pinch myself sometimes. We have a lot to talk about because you're running, you know, you founded, created and you're running a billion dollar business, two billion dollar business. You have a huge hit show in the air. You have the love of your life. You've got, like the past couple of years have felt like they've been this big, joyous explosion of things. And I always like to ask people, it's like, if this was, if your life is a book, what is the

title of this chapter? Oh. Gosh. Can I pitch you some ideas? Yes. I would say something like really simple but poetic, like, the best part yet. Oh. Or the best is yet to come.

The best is yet to come. Or the best is here. The best is here, babe. Oh. Or what is the best? Let me tell you. 33 and feeling free or whatever. But I want to speak to you as a person talking to a deeply successful entrepreneur.

I mean, you are the founder of a gigantic successful business that, in my opinion, like, does a lot of things, gets a lot of things very right. When you were a young person, what was your relationship to makeup and beauty? Did you have a house where people were doing that? Did you? Yeah. It's actually interesting because my, my Nana was all about self-care as far as, you know, taking good care of your skin. But my mom was a makeup artist. So, yes. And she worked at Mac. So she had like... She's at the counter. Yeah.

And I love it. You know, like I think she would give me all of her products that she was done with. And she would do them for photo shoots in Dallas, Texas for like little things. And it was really cool. So, yeah, I remember playing with it a lot. I wasn't allowed to wear it out. And I'm glad considering the pictures I see now. I just would stick on all the colors.

And it just was really fun for me to play with. And now my sister is got to be 13. I know. It's so weird, but she's awesome. 12 to 13 is an interesting bridge. Very. It's so weird. Even her getting her nails done sometimes freaks me out.

Yeah. And also I noticed that like 12, you're still kind of, you'll like dance around and be goofy. And sometimes something happens with boys and girls. It's not gendered where like you just start to be conscious of. of being self-conscious. And you just, I know. Well, that's what I was going to say is my 12 versus her 12. It is a vast difference.

And it makes me worried and also encouraged because I have, you know, trust in my sister. And she's a very sweet girl. She's very goofy still. So I try to like pull that out of her. Yeah. It's like you want to keep the goofiness going for as long as possible. And also that just is at any age.

basically, like, no matter the person. Like, you want to, it's a secret to life, but it's so hard to learn, which is if you can just have fun without worrying about what other people think of you. Exactly. That's the power, but it takes so long to learn. That's true. But she's been, like, you know, when you were joy, it was actually, I really wanted to ask you about that movie because I watched it with my sister and I completely sobbed.

Yeah. Because it is so factual how I almost feel like it should have been a requirement in school to watch that as a homework assignment because I'm so fascinated with the human mind and it would break my heart and my sister watched it and she started crying and it's, was that just crazy? Yeah, you know, I think what for people listening, I think you're referring, no, to Inside Out. Yes. And in the second one, are you talking about Inside Out too? Yeah, there's that, like, kind of heartbreak that happens when anxiety moves in. Yes. And suddenly the emotion of anxiety moves in.

And I have to say, same, no matter the age, you're either feeling it in real time as a young person. You're remembering that feeling as a person in your 30s and 40s or 50s or above. Like, you're just remembering that moment when your paint set, you know, got some darker colors in it. Definitely. And it's, I mean, it's part of growing up. Yeah. But it's, it's brutal. It is.

I just, but you, you, I mean, how is everyone a part of that movie, if you haven't seen it. I know, they're geniuses. I just think it's incredible and congratulations. Thanks, Celita. I'm going to make my children watch it. Oh my God, your children. I know. I want to be, I want to see her little babies.

I know, I know. I know they don't exist yet, but I can't wait. They do. I also want to talk to you about, like, tip. Typical day of you running your business because you have basically three to four full-time jobs. Yes. And one would be enough. And you have a lot of full-time jobs.

And, you know, the great Martin Short, I spoke to him earlier today because we like to talk well behind our guests back. And he's, you know, he's such so in love with you. And he was just saying, like, I never see Selena, like, overwhelmed. Like she doesn't do that thing, which is like, oh, I can't handle today, right? Even though she's got a million things that she's dealing with at once. What's a typical day like for you? Well, I love him so much. That isn't always true, though.

You're just hiding it. I think it's, I, well, you know, it's about, of course, typical answer balance. But it is. When I am doing only murders, it's, you know, it can be 12 to 14 hour days. And it's five days a week. And I have, like, my entire love and attention is focused on that. So when I do get to work on anything film or TV related, I kind of have to have all of my focus there.

Yeah. Does not mean that I am not answering emails. Well, text. I don't like email. Oh, my God. Marty. Marty. I know.

Marty. I wanted to talk on the phone. I was like, are you nuts? They've made, I've turned into Steve and Marty. We'll get there. But I've turned into both of them somehow. And you're talking on the, sending faxes. Yes.

And I don't. Using a file of facts. Yeah. I just, I'm always, if I have an idea or I smell something or I feel something, I'm super close with Joyce, who basically is my product go-to guru. If I want to create something out of thin air, she a thousand percent will go there. And it could be a complete failure. So you can be like, I touched this lemon today. How cool would it be to like have a lemon, you know, do we have a lemon scrub in the line that's interesting or whatever?

Yeah, I definitely will come up with things. What have you come up with it? You're like, that was good. Well, when we first started the company, I'd say the blushes where the liquid blushes have been my pride and joy because that was one of the most important, you know, moments for rare. And I think the texture and the way we'd play with it and all the colors, all of it feels like you're a chemist in a way. And you can just feel it and smell it even. And I was able to go to Italy where, you know, we did most of our products. And it's wild, you know.

Yeah. It's just, it's a whole process. You have tons of different people using the stuff that you make. I was really impressed, and I didn't know this, that you have easily accessible products. They're easy to open. Yes. Why was that important to you? And what do you have to do to make that happen?

So I have a few medical things, but I have arthritis in my fingers, and that's due to my lupus. So I remember before the brand, I was trying to open a water bottle. bottle and it hurt really bad before I was on the right medication. And we somehow inherently made the products easy to open. And then we realized, wait, they kind of have to be that way. And then we started to make every product with the intention of anybody who have dexterity problems. And I know that might seem like a little thing, but it's really not because it's actually so

helpful for anyone at any age to be able to use the products. And that's why we want to make them easy and accessible because it's important to me and it always has been. So even down to our fragrance, the pump is very easy for me to use. It speaks to the bigger thing, which is I've just been very, always very moved and impressed by the way that you allow your own challenges, health challenges, to inform your story and your product? Yeah.

Because it really makes people feel very seen. Definitely. And I think there's, you know, there's so much stigma behind so many different illnesses. I don't know. I've been through it, so I think I just know how it feels. And I really want everyone to feel as good as I do now, you know. Do we have the scent here? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I? Yes, please. Look, so this is my fake food wall. I really, really love this. We have some of this at our home. You do? Yeah. What kind of stuff do you hear? You recognize. Okay, already I'm loving this for a couple of reasons. Well, okay, basically we have orange peels that look so real and they're all over the house that people keep mistaking them as trash. And they're fake orange peels? Yeah. It's art. It's art. I love it. It might be my fiancé's choice. So, yes. Ben, he's like, we got to get these orange deals. It's like, they're the deal.

And you're like, okay, I'm afraid people are going to throw them away. Yeah, multiple people have tried. But, yeah, so can I show you? Yes, please. Basically, it's, so to lock it, it's just that little simple turn. Love. And what are we calling this fragrance? This is called rare a de perfume.

I learned that. But I just say it's my rare perfume. So you can do it with, you know, your hands. You can do it. However, it you feel like if you want to, oh, I was going to spray it right in my eyes. I can smell it right now. So I know. I just realized I overdid it.

No, no, let me smell. Let me take it in. It will definitely. Oh, yeah, it smells nice. It'll settle. I honestly can taste it. I'm sorry how many times I speak. I'm like, it's in my mouth.

It smells. You know, the very funny bit, which is like, you know, in the 80s, you would, like, spray your clone and then you'd walk through it. Oh, it's the gentle... Yes. You'd make it a thing. I think that's what I should have done. Okay. This smells really good.

Everybody here is like... We're waiting for it to calm down. Everybody likes the smell in here. It'll be here for a minute. And then we light it on fire. So we really do some pirate techniques in here. So I got to talk to Marty Short. Yeah.

And he... He was so nice, you know, he came on this podcast. Here's your first guest. He was like my first guest, him and Tina. And him and Steve, you know, are heroes of mine and I'm sure of yours too. And I grew up loving them. But I also have the pleasure and privilege to know that they're really wonderful to work with. And when you guys all started working together and, of course, the show is a big, giant hit.

And I said, you know, what's it like working with Celine? like she seems great but you know you never know and every report back has been and always has been like you're such a pro my pop ball used to say if you are on time you're already late so that means i get to places 30 minutes before or i've had my team has had to trick me because i show up so early but I like to be prepared and to say hi and not be rushed. The feeling of being rushed is very stressful. But then on top of it, I start working with Steve and Marty. And they really, you know, spearhead the whole, you know, they started the pyramid and everything happens.

And they just, they are so professional. They make everyone feel good. They lighten up any room, even if it's a serious scene. And that's a huge. huge inspiration to me. And it just, they've been working for so long. And if I'm tired and they're not sometimes, I'm like, whoa, okay, I can do this. You know, they've really, I've been very lucky to work with people who are, you know, punctual. And I, I just like it because I want everyone to work and have an enjoyable experience. I don't think people realize in our industry, like most

jobs you get in trouble if you're late or you get fired but in our in our industry in the music industry in the in acting and in television and film people sometimes just don't come on time right it's a really weird thing because in almost every other um industry you can't you can't get away yeah i wonder why i don't i i have theories i think sometimes genuinely like real Like, the magnanimous theory is that real artists, like, are often, you know, in their own kind of creative space. And, like, time isn't maybe their time management, maybe isn't their biggest skill. Yeah. That's a generous way to think about it.

And then the less generous way is, I think, to your point about anxiety, for some people, there's just, like, a struggle to figure. out the power dynamics and one way to get power is to make people wait. It's my worst nightmare. That's, yeah. I honestly would start crying only because it stresses me out. It's so stressful. It's also, I don't want to hurt, I guess it wouldn't be hurting people's feelings because they don't probably care like about me that way. But I think it's disrespectful. Um, no, it's not to say everyone live their life the way they want to, but for me, it just, I would feel like a puppy dog with my tail in between my legs a whole day at work if I made the crew wait even 30 minutes. I'd be like, I'm so sorry. I know. Like there's, I mean, we all make mistakes for

humans, but there are the few times that I've overslept or I, I cannot tolerate the feeling of knowing people are waiting. That's so nice to know that there's more people like that. Are you an early to airport person? No. Oh, I don't, I don't push it. But I do. I do. I don't like being... This is interesting. In an airport because it, it, like, is, as you can tell, I'm a very, like, anxious person in a way, but I don't know. It gets me, like, over-stimulated.

You want to kind of, like, keep walking right on to the point. And then get in my little, like it. I'm the opposite. Okay. I like to get there with plenty of. time. Okay. Go look at the gate.

Go look at the gate. You have to see. Yeah, I have to see the gate. That's true. Make sure it's there. Make sure it's there. Look at the plane. Look at the gate.

Very like airport dad. Love that. Go up to the person to be like, looks like we're taking up on time. Like I like to kick the tires a little bit. I love that. And have plenty of time to just like be a little hypervigilant. But I understand you, the airport is a nightmare. It's just, it's over-stimulating.

But I will say, if I'm at the Dallas, Dallas airport. I like to take my time. Ooh, why? What's it? What's the Dallas airport? First off, it's my home. Second, it's just, I mean, what a burger. They have the best restaurants. It doesn't even feel like you're at an airport. It's like. You could get lost there. I just want to spend time there. Yeah. It's, it's a very push and pull thing because it could be over stimulating. Sometimes I like to try to get my steps in. Oh, that's clever. I'm not always thinking too much about my steps. But if I can get. get them in, the airport is a great place to get them in. Now, have you seen the people who ride their suitcases? You can do that. There's automatic. Oh, I've seen adults. I've actually seen it. I do believe you can find it on TikTok or something. It is a grown, yes. I get it for the kids, but it's a little hilarious. And I don't need to be unfair, but if a man was riding his suitcase, that's a hell no for me.

And you're kind of... Yeah, that's so true. Or anyone who brings their own pillow. That's very stressful to me. Adults with their own pillow. Again, if you need your pillow for support, I understand. But if you don't... Why are you going to have it?

Okay, so back to Marty. So, Marty, first of all, what I find so interesting... I mean, you have been... This is a really deeply comedic role on a show, with deeply comedic people, and it keeps getting recognized by your peers and lauded by critics and, you know, people can't wait for season five, which is coming out this week. But you have been funny for a very long time. Oh, God. Thank you. That's a huge problem.

And you were very funny on Wizards. Thank you. I'm like, what? How have you seen it? But you've had the chops for a long time. You've had your, like, you've had timing, which is so much, so much, you know, is such a big. Yeah. It's, well, I can't even get this sentence out. This is how bad my timing is.

But it's true. Your timing has always been impeccable. Thank you. I don't, I am. It's because I grew up and should have probably been more outside, but I grew up watching Will and Grace, friends, of course, you know, Channel 33 would be Frasier after. Yeah. Who did you love, who were your comedic heroes growing up?

Oh, well, I mean, that's different because I feel like when I have watched, because I didn't watch, like, stand up. It was actually introduced to me when I was probably like 18, but just because I was this Texas pumpkin that just didn't really know. And I think the first one I ever watched was, I believe it was, see, I'm terrible. Oh, Allie Wong when she was pregnant. No way. That was your first stand-up special? Yeah. And I just completely lost it.

So now it's almost like a morning thing where I'll, like, you know, Benny will show me some of his favorite comedians. And it's actually, I have a whole appreciation. And, you know, obviously for Steve and Marty, knowing their. history and their stories. It's pretty inspiring. I don't know how other than just I watched a lot of TV and I thought about the timing. But I will say Wizards was so fun because I had the room to mess up and it's okay if it really failed and was cheesy because it was Disney. So it was fun. Yeah. Yeah, this was a bit scarier. Yeah, I would be intimidated to do a TV show with them. I have to say.

They're really deeply funny. And they're really good joke writers. They're very good. And they're material. Like, they're always searching for like the better joke. It is. They won't kind of rest until they get it. It's true.

Trust me. I will be right in the middle of them figuring it out. And I'm like, it's funny, guys. It's funny. Guys, we got it. I know. I mean, still, you know, when I work with them or people that are kind of like trained in that world, it's still amazing to me how you'll think everything is really

ready to go and people, you know, the best comedians will just keep going. Do you think up until the very last minute? That is something that I love, though, because it's so fun, but I must have heard their bits a hundred times that I could finish them. But so I just try to at a group hang, I'm just listening and I'm laughing again and doing the whole thing to just be like, wow. And it's the 20th time I've heard them. But it's actually so sweet because they've been best friends for like 35.

Yeah. Their relationship is really awesome. It's so cute. I love it. And, you know, having truly I looked up to both of them when I was growing up, they, I can't believe that I know them. Like I actually can't believe that they're friends of mine. Yeah. Who is someone that you can't believe your friends with?

Honestly, them and Merrill. Yes. I can't even imagine. Like my life is really weird sometimes because I, we have gotten incredibly lucky with people who love to just come and join our show. Yeah. We don't, you know, we want to create a space where people can have fun. So that's genuinely, I believe and hope that is the reason people like to come on the show because we just have fun. and you can be a quirky character or be whatever you want.

Yeah. So I feel like I lost track of what I was. Well, I was saying, who can you believe your friends with? Oh. I mean, alternate. But everyone, Dave Vine, I love Michael Creighton. I love Richard Kind. I'm sorry.

Bing Bong. He's one of my favorite. Bing Bong. I know. I'm too obsessed with your movie. But every time I see Richard Kind and I've gotten a chance to see him, recently, I have this reaction because of his voice because we never recorded together, but in Inside Out, he played Bing Bong, an amazing character.

And Richard is such a, like, big personality. He's so great. He's so great. And it's, but it's very, it's filled with a ton of pathos, like, you really feel big feelings when you're around Richard. Richard just makes me laugh. He doesn't even try. He's just, one time he had to walk down a hall and open a door, and he just, like, walked

all the way down, and we watched him walk past the door that he was supposed to open to go to the next door and knock. And then the other person answered from the other door and looked down the hole. And he goes, oh, well, I didn't know that. And I was like, yes, you did. We shot it like 15 times. And then do you guys improvise? Like, do you like, do we do have freedom takes is what we call them?

Oh, freedom takes. We called them on Parks and Recreation. We call them fun runs. Oh, that's awesome. I like that sounds more fun. Freedom takes. Yeah, freedom takes. That's exactly what Marty will say.

Okay, okay, but let's do a freedom take. And then we can have fun and do whatever and try things. It's funny when it's so funny and then it's hilarious when it doesn't land. Oh, I know. Because they hit it and then no one laughs and you're like, I have a good idea. I can't wait to bring it out on this freedom take. And then you do it and everyone's like, moving on. Yeah.

Oh, and it's happened. I equally get it too because they are, they're, very sweet to me, but they'll let me know when a joke fails. They're like, yeah, that didn't work. I was like, okay. I really appreciate it. They're pros. They will not say it's funny if it's not.

And, okay, we should take a lip balm break, by the way. Sure. I take a lip. Do you have your lip? Yeah, I do. Oh. What kind of bomb do you use? You don't know which ones?

Well, I mean, I'm sponsored by Lanesh. I see. Okay. But I could be sponsored by rare reviews. I'm not. You're hilarious. I want you to do what your contract is. But my contract as if I have a beauty contract.

You know, Selena, my beauty contracts. What do you mean? It's hard to keep them straight. So I haven't used these because I want you to try this one. Okay. Oh, these are great. It just feels good. Okay, the reviews in, they're great.

If you just let them in. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. like it a lot. So let's get to Marty's question. Oh, good grief. Marty had a question for you. And it was a sweet one, I think, because, you know, he was saying, you know, he was like, I don't think I talk to Selena enough about her music, you know. And she's such a sweet. I know. It's such a cute thing to say. And I mean, also let's point out that both Steve and Marty on top of being, you know, comedic geniuses are also excellent musicians. That's true. But he, his question was very,

very, you know, sweet, which is basically like, just like, hold on, let me get it right. Oh, okay. So he said, like, who were some of your early musical influences and what was the song that you fell in love with early? Ooh. I know. Well, it was interesting because my dad growing up was a DJ. So I definitely remember listening to a lot of 90s hip hop.

But my mom was very creative. So when she would paint, she'd listen to classical music when, you know, other things were happening. She'd kind of go with the energy. And then on my dad's side, it was a lot of Tejano music. So I loved listening to all styles of music. What is it about Tejano music that makes it specifically that kind of music? How would you describe it to people who don't listen to it? I think, well, Linda Ronstat has an incredible album that is in Spanish.

And she, to me, since, you know, the days of Selena Gintanilla, who kind of popped, you know, made it like a pop version of it. Yeah. Linda's, I thought, was incredible, too, because it's so musically charged. Yeah. The instruments make everything sound so grand. And then you feel like you want to move.

That's one of the best feelings. And it just, just hearing her, I don't know if you've heard any of that album, but her, it's so beautiful. She's definitely like a voice of my childhood as well. Like her, my mom used to play Linda Rosella. And she's just an amazing singer. And you've, you've recorded in Spanish too. Yeah. Did your voice change when you sing in a different language?

It does. It's so weird. I don't know why. I only have one EP in Spanish in a few songs. I've recorded in Spanish for various things. And I don't know why. Yeah. It's so interesting. I can imagine because it's like, I don't know, it's, you're yourself, but you're playing a, you're just playing a different version of yourself, a character in a way. And it's, it's so interesting to be singing a different language. Yeah. It's really difficult. It's really, it's really funny to me. I don't really get it, but I like it. Yeah. And you are now living with a musician. Yes. Two musicians. Yes. What's it like in a house with two musicians?

Orange peels everywhere. Well, there's orange peels to go around. Yeah. And I'd say he's obviously, hands down, I hope everyone would agree with me. Musically talented in a stratosphere that I couldn't even touch, you know? And it's not because I'm playing down myself. I'm really not. I'm just saying I respect him as an artist, as a producer, as a song.

songwriter and everything that he does, he puts his whole heart into. I will listen to the same beats over and over and over. That's what I imagine is that he's playing a lot of beats. Yeah, he's creating things. I would like to categorize myself more as an actress. So there isn't any competition, I guess, not that there would be. The last album I released was with Benny, and it was amazing because I was proud of something and it was mine and ours, and it was fun.

But I think I really depend on him for any of the taste, playlist, that kind of stuff. Congrats on your engagement. Thank you so much. And I have to say, the other thing that I've loved watching you over the years, again, not knowing you, but just like being like, oh, cool, Celine is trying this. your cooking show I love a cooking show yeah and I love cooking and it was for me it was a new experience I didn't really start cooking until I was in my 40s I didn't really grow up you know I had a working mom we didn't have you know we didn't there wasn't a ton of I didn't cook in the

home when I was young and I had my kids I was working a lot I didn't cook as much and so I'm always drawn to people teaching me how to cook and watching people cook. You are too. What kind of? So the whole, this is what I, I love when people say, you are a chef because you had a cooking show. No. Right. But you like. The idea, yes, the idea and the concept of the show is that I simply don't know how. And I think over a few seasons, it's safe to say, I still don't know how. Because it was incredible recipes that were so intricate. And I think that was very challenging for me. Okay. But it was fun because I'd get it right. But it would take me five to seven hours to do it. But what I liked about it is,

you know, you're basically, to your point, you're watching somebody learn and you're learning with them. And it's a very nice gesture to be even behind the people watch. Oh, yeah. That's actually what I do with Benny. Benny feels, I don't know if he's. he'd like admit this, but he likes when I sit in the kitchen with him because he tells me what he's doing. And I think it's the cutest thing in the world because I'll sit there and I'm just like, now what? He'll go, so we're going to make sure these onions are fully chopped and I'm going to caramelize them, whatever. See, I don't even know lingo. He's like, I'm going to do this, chop the basil. And then he'd like, completely loses himself in cooking. And I love that.

I just think it's so endearing. Well, I think cooking. Well, I think cooking. Cooking is a good way, speaking of anxiety. For me, it's like a place to put anxiety. Yes. Because it's very low-risk, high reward. If you don't, if it doesn't work out, like, whatever, you can just order in or just tried. But if it does, you feel really good about yourself. You're very proud, for sure.

I enjoy cooking. I really do. I just find it very intimidating to do with many. Because he has, he has. he's so good. He's just really good at it. Yeah. It's almost just too threatening. So one time I made dinner for my friends and he got so offended. He was like, why haven't you done them for me? I'm like, because mine was frozen and then I added a sauce. He does everything. You're like, I'm dealing with the sauce. I can't take, I can't, I can't talk to you right now. But I try. What is your, what's a meal that you like that you know to cook and you cook? Oh, my nana's chicken and dumplings. It's a very southern. It's very good. It's biscuits and these chicken strip, just shredded chicken and a soup.

It's the best cozy weather dish. That sounds good. It's so fun. I love also, you know, to like zoom out what was great about that show is, you know, it's just you enjoying food. Yeah. Because I love food. You talk a lot about making sure that you stay healthy.

Yeah. What is your, how is your relationship with food changed? Uh, it, it hasn't necessarily changed. It's broadened. Mm-hmm. And Benny has spoiled me a little bit. Mm-hmm. Because he's, again, not to talk about it, but like all the time.

But he would, he would take a recipe and turn it into something even better. Mm-hmm. So it's, it's really funny. I'm just like totally airing. him out right now. But I think he does this thing where he'll say, I'll say, wow, this risotto is incredible

and he'll taste it. He'll say, well, you know, I would, I probably would have added this, but it's very good. I just think if you put more and then, like, you see how this is set in and I just like to like stare at him because it's so cute. He's constantly tweaking it. Yeah. He always

says he can make it better. And it's not a lie. It's just the most adorable thing. He's going to be like, what? It's a very sweet, like making food for someone is a really tender act. It is a really loving act. It is. I just get sometimes stressed because he doesn't need to do it, but he reminds me, like you said, it's very therapeutic for him. At least I can speak for me where you just kind of start thinking about like, what do I want to make tonight? Okay. And your brain, you know, your anxiety brain, your squirrel brain needs to land on something and then it can land on a list and it can think about timing and it can think, and it like has to click-clack away on something.

And if it's just the meal that night, it can be really helpful. Yeah. And it's also done. There's something about finishing that thing that you were. It's a feeling of accomplishment. Yeah. And I totally get that. It's the same feeling as me watching like TikToks of people cooking.

Those are my favorite. Me too. I could just, I just appreciate it so much. much and then they're so interesting from different cuisines around the world and it's just really yeah that's that's me that would be my feed for sure do you go on ticot because that must be treacherous no so um actually haven't been on ticot that's great in i'm sorry ticot but no it's okay they all social media platforms i'm sure hate me at this point so i'm always like ah i don't know it's very you have 400 million instagram followers you

So, it's fine. I mean, it's fine, sis. Well, no, I'm just saying I get so, like, awkward about that because it doesn't, I don't, I don't understand it sometimes. It's just a very interesting thing. Because I, my experience with social media, I think, is that we may share a similarity, which is that I feel it's, like, treacherous, but it can be to your point, like, you can find ways to feel connection. Definitely. I think it's important for that element for me to have a connection with, you know, just my community. I'm not sure I'll always be that way forever.

But I think right now it's it's been a great resource for me to connect with people. I have not been on social media for a few months now, even when I post sometimes it's just to make sure it's like on my post and feed. and then I don't look at anything. Well, you've been very generous in sharing your life with people. Yeah, and I like, this is happening and I feel good about it. I like doing it my way, you know, and I think if I were to get into something, and I, oh, sorry, I'm all over the place. And I also just want people to know, like, if it didn't come from me, it's 90% false or anything. I just love being able to say this is where I am and I'm enjoying it.

and I'm willing to share that part of my life and maybe it'll change, but I enjoy it. Yeah. And then it leads me kind of to one of our last questions, which is basically energy, giving it, getting it. Like it sounds like for every person in their 30s, I would say it's one of the big lessons is figuring out, okay, if your 20s is like trying to figure out, you know, what you don't want to do and who you don't want to be, then you're 30s. become like, okay, let's give energy to the things that I want to have, bro. Of course. So how do you, how do you, what have you learned about, you know, self-care and boundaries and all this way in which you can be, you know, open about your life or you can share the

things that you're happy about and you can feel the love and support from people who have supported you, but still keep energy and boundaries. I definitely don't read anything. I don't have comments enabled on my, on my thing. my page, just simply because I want it to be fun for me. I don't need anything else other than just me wanting to share that with the world. Oh, sorry. That's my ride, guys. Wait, this is why Selena is such a pro, is that she just stopped talking during a siren. That is. You just like, you don't go looking for trouble. I don't think it's healthy. So I'll say on the social

part. If you're depending on it, it's really scary. But have a healthy relationship with it. I think it's important. But yeah, I don't let anything in that I don't need because it's not where I am. And you know, you kind of like spoke about karma earlier. What's amazing about the work that you do is you give a lot back. You give a lot of your time and you give a lot of your money and in many ways, you know, time can be harder to give than money. And you give both. And it's, you have for a very long time, like you toured with UNICEF for many, many years. You were an ambassador where our beauty gives a ton of money. I was really impressed with what you guys do with your. And that's also the community because one percent of our products. So it's,

again, it's people contributing to helping. It's awesome. Young people have access to mental health. When you are kind of one-on-one dealing with someone you've now been famous for a really long time and you have a lot of people who grew up with you and feel really invested in you. And that's energy, right? Like they want to connect with you. You feel that. I know you've been like extremely loving and very supportive of people. But it's a lot to be approached sometimes with a lot of energy.

So what do you say no to now that you did it before? Or how do you kind of like guard your own energy, your own? It's very difficult for me to say no to people that I get to encounter. It's my Nana taking in her 14th picture of my outfit. I'm like, I can't do this. I've got to go. I've got to make your dumpling. Yeah.

But I don't think, I don't know how to. How to answer that? Well, it's, I mean, maybe it's just become intuitive and also feels, may I answer for you? Well, let me, yeah, because I'm thinking. Well, because I feel protective of you because as a woman who is older and, you know, I think you're big, any woman in their 30s, I think is doing that thing where they're trying to figure out basically what is expensive for me with energy. Basically, you start.

Yes. protecting it it is and i think that'll happen more so if i when i have kids yeah i'll probably put more boundaries up for you know the sake of of the sanity of you know what that will look like i have no idea but i i just i feel like i owe a lot of people in the world any sort of smile hug you know, picture. So it's very hard. When I don't do it, I promise you, it's because I'm, I'm either really having a hard time dealing with my anxiety or I'm late. Like, that's usually, which I try not to be. But like if I have to go somewhere, but in general, it's, it's very, it's a lot because I love doing it. I think about it too much where I'll think about if I missed

that one person. It's so, it could get crazy in my head. It can be a little crazy making and it's, and Marty said something really sweet, which is like, you know, when, when you guys shoot in New York, you know, and there's whatever, you know, shooting in New York, just like living in New York is just you're constantly on display and people will, you know, take photos. And he said, like, Selena really understands that that's kind of part of the exchange and it doesn't really bother her unless anyone is rude to anybody. Oh, yeah. It's like, you get very a mom of it. I like it very, yeah. I actually, that was probably one of the pictures from season two.

Someone said a vile word to someone else. And it was a photographer, thankfully not a fan of the show. But I just looked at him and I gave him the finger and there's just one shot of me and he missed it. So he wasn't even the one that got it because I looked at him and I was just like, yeah and he like the other people started laughing and I was like I don't even care I'm just so I can't tolerate that kind of stuff but then they want that reaction so then I know they're baiting you but you know you're a human being I also I just one finger in 33 years like there's probably been a couple more we could probably find them it's fine okay so I always ask my guess this

what what stuff are you listening to right now watching reading that makes you laugh because it's not it's a it's there's a you've had in a beautiful couple of years and also you know in the midst of like there's a lot of heaviness in the world everybody is all we're all in different spaces and places and you've provided a lot of comedy for people who like really want to like your show provides that for a lot of people who does that for you oh well it's more so the experiences I have. I love, I love encountering silly moments and spontaneity because, you know, I don't have a lot of that in my life because I try to schedule everything. So whenever something is spontaneous or even just being on only murders, as long as we work, it's, those are the joyous, you know, making some. laugh or just having, you know, your partner laugh with you and, and you're watching a movie

together. It's... What movies made you laugh lately? A friendship. Oh, yeah. Tim Ra- are you Tim Robinson? Yes. It was hilarious. And very, it was so funny because a lot of, like, mixed emotions for people, but I was just like, this is just so funny because how, you know broad it is him and paul rhetoric and it and also tim romison is in like the best kind of insane i mean it's like where does he come up my kids are obsessed with tim robinson oh that's awesome and have you watched his tv show no oh that's what yeah that's what i need to get on you're gonna love it it's because i think you should leave i think it's three seasons okay it's so funny that's what i'll be doing now. It's, I love it. I love it. But I'm also a big, like, lately we've seen all the horror

films, so. Okay, you like to be scared? I loved weapons. Oh, yeah. That movie. Yes. Thank you. I know. I know. Oh, I just don't like to be scared. No, but. I heard it's amazing. About 70% of the people in my life loathe the fact that I watched it. I was like, that's a hell no for me. Yeah. No way. Am I going to the movie? Like, two tickets, please. No way. I know. I know.

It's such a weird thing. I do. I do. But I like things that are interesting mentally. Not a lot of gore. Yeah. You want like an intriguey, suspenseful. Yeah, give me the jump scares every now.

What's your favorite horror movie or one of your favorites? Oh, all time. What do you like? I would say. I don't know I really loved I'm trying to think Barbarian

Oh yeah The Conjuring The first conjuring Was really one That I'll never forget Because I was terrified If you don't watch it Then you never have to forget it

That's true That's true So I would say one of those for sure Yeah Okay Well I think you should leave is so great You'll love it Highly recommend

Watch one horror movie and then watch six episodes. Because that's how we do. You know, I do have to watch something nice after. Yeah, to cleanse. But no, I'm so, I have to. And you're not the only person. So I'm like, I need to have a new show to just laugh at.

Well, thank you so much for coming. I'm so happy that I got to do this. Thank you so much for having me. It's some pleasure. And truly congrats on all the good stuff that's coming your way. And can't wait for what's ahead. I mean, Future Only, Babe. Yeah.

Oh, that's the name of the book. Future. Future only, babe. Babe. Past is the past. Robots. Robots. Robots. Lip bomb.

Tech, all of it. Tech all of it. That's also your next chapter. Tech. Tech. All of it. And then just blank pages. And then you just have your grandmother's recipe.

I love it. Thank you so much. It's so great. Thank you so much, Selena. Wow. You're just a total peach, and it was really nice talking to you. And for this polar plunge, I just wanted, in the spirit of what Selena does, right? She just gives back, and she really tries to make sure that she's donating her time and energy to people who need it.

I just wanted to say that I've been working a lot with blood cancer united, and they help people, patients. who are dealing with cancer, all different kinds of blood cancers, and September is childhood cancer month. So look, you know, there may be some people listening right now who are dealing with it, who have experience with it, but there's just that moment when you really need support and love. And the people at Blood Cancer United definitely provide that, among many other things, resources, information. So I don't know, I just feel very moved by the way Selena uses her platform and an attempt to do that today, I would encourage you all to go to bloodcancerunited.org

and donate what you can. It makes a big difference, especially in these times. Thank you so much for listening to this episode. Thank you, Selena, for coming. And we'll see you soon. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler.

The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Cod. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Katz-Belaine, Kaya McMullen, and Alea Zaneris. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.