Good Inside with Dr. Becky - Don’t Pardon Me, I’m an Inconvenient Woman

Episode Date: March 25, 2025

In this follow-up to last week’s Calling All “Good Girls” episode, Dr. Becky dives deeper into embracing the role of the “inconvenient woman.” What begins with a simple “I want my coffee m...y way” moment evolves into a powerful realization: Identifying, owning, and articulating our desires as women can be incredibly uncomfortable. Dr. Becky encourages all self-identifying “Good Girls” to reflect on what they truly want for themselves and to embrace the inconvenience that comes with pursuing it.Do you want to learn more about how we're celebrating being an inconvenient woman at Good Inside? Check out the link here: https://www.goodinside.com/lp/inconvenient-women/Get the Good Inside App by Dr. Becky: https://bit.ly/4fSxbzkFollow Dr. Becky on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drbeckyatgoodinsideSign up for our weekly email, Good Insider: https://www.goodinside.com/newsletterOrder Dr. Becky's book, Good Inside: A Guide to Becoming the Parent You Want to Be, at goodinside.com/book or wherever you order your books.For a full transcript of the episode, go to goodinside.com/podcastTo listen to Dr. Becky's TED Talk on repair visit https://www.ted.com/talks/becky_kennedy_the_single_most_important_parenting_strategy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Okay, so this is part two of our series about what it means to be an inconvenient woman. What does that really mean? Now I just want to set things straight. This is not going to be an episode where I share with you my month long vacation in Bali away from my whole family to be an inconvenient woman. That's never happened. I don't think that's really accessible for most of us. And that is really, really kind of far away from the pragmatic kind of day-to-day that we all live.
Starting point is 00:00:29 I want to share with you something that to me is the essence of what I think about around being an inconvenient woman. And I just want you to take whatever you imagine and bring it down like 39 notches, okay? Because the story that comes to mind that I think about all the time is this moment in an airport that has to do with my coffee order.
Starting point is 00:00:56 And if you're thinking, Becky, are you gonna talk to me for the next 20 something minutes about your coffee order? You bet I am. Because in this moment, my whole past came alive. I think so many ideas around gender came alive. In some ways, the conflict between taking care of my own needs and taking care of someone else's
Starting point is 00:01:14 imagined needs all came alive. And I wanna dissect this because I think we have moments like this every single day. And if we, instead of running past this, kind of elongate what is really happening and how does our past come into play today and how can we shift things a little bit what do we have to get ready for and what do we have to question and reframe and learn and unlearn that's what we're gonna be doing today so I promise you something accessible relatable and very very usable
Starting point is 00:01:42 let's jump in. You know that feeling when you're going a million miles an hour, jumping from one thing to the next, you're trying to finish an email, and then you remember the laundry's still wet, and then your kid is shouting about needing poster board for the project due tomorrow, your phone won't stop buzzing, and oh, great.
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Starting point is 00:03:11 I can't have an iced coffee before I've had a hot coffee. Like I need my hot coffee and it kind of sets up the whole rest of my day. Okay, so I'm in line at the airport, I get to the front and this is what I say, hey, can I just have a medium coffee, just a really little bit of milk, right? Because just between us,
Starting point is 00:03:30 I really don't like my coffee very, very light, but I also like it with a little bit of milk. And I remember saying that because it's always my coffee order, just a little bit of milk. And I did this thing with my hand. Okay, I then kind of pay, I move to the side where they're kind of getting the coffees ready.
Starting point is 00:03:44 They're like, Becky, here's your coffee, I then kind of pay I move to the side where they're kind of getting the coffees ready. They're like Becky Here's your coffee. I get it. I open it up and it was basically white. Okay, I don't even know if there's any coffee in there I mean it was very very light Okay, I don't know if your heart is racing I Feel like My whole world came alive in that moment. It was kind of like this existential question came up and I'm gonna name it here because I remember it feeling really big
Starting point is 00:04:12 because it didn't just feel like it was about coffee. Am I allowed to want things for myself? Am I allowed to have something that I want to be a certain way? Am I allowed to ask someone to do something for me knowing it will kind of be a moment of inconvenience for them? If I ask for this coffee to be redone, do I have kind of the fortitude to tolerate the eye roll or the deep breath, sigh, that might come my way? What is everyone around me going to think if I ask for something to
Starting point is 00:05:07 be done again to meet my needs? On the other hand, can I make this work? Am I making a big deal out of nothing? Would other people react this way? And then the S word. Am I being selfish? Just like so selfish. Whole line of people. I really, really believe everything came alive in that moment. Now, I want to tell you what I did.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I just want to rewind because we all have so much historical context that goes into how we respond in a moment. When I was growing up, I was a really good girl. Now, I don't know if you listened to part one of this kind of two part series where we kind of dissect, what does that really mean? It sounds like a nice phrase, but ooh, is it more about kind of control and kind of restricting a young girl's
Starting point is 00:06:11 kind of movements in the world and the space she takes up? But let's just say I was that good girl. I didn't take up a lot of space. Definitely way back when, I don't know, I'm at a birthday party and I say something like, ooh, could I have a piece of cake with the kid's name on it? You know, you always want that icing and I get one without any icing.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I just would have said, all right, well, cake is cake, no big deal. Okay, so that definitely was my background. But something I've worked on from childhood to young adulthood to now very much mid adulthood is knowing that I'm allowed to want things and knowing that once in a while I'm allowed to have things the way that I want them. And then this is the kicker because this is the thing one day if I run a school I will
Starting point is 00:07:00 teach everybody is when you get your needs met, other people will be annoyed. When you get your needs met, other people will feel inconvenienced. When you get your needs met, you often will be met with a sigh or an eye roll, at least initially. So that's the second part that I think we have to understand because there's no pure beautiful moment that we can expect when we get our needs met. Okay, so let's go back to this coffee moment in the airport. I hate drinking coffee with a lot of milk. Like I knew that about myself. I think I had done enough.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I don't know, reflection around how do I like things? How do I want things to know? This coffee, I was going to have to dump out the whole thing. Then I have to get back in line and pay again or probably, you know, go to a different coffee place. I don't know, many, many, you know, kind of feet away just to not face the same person. And I just remember saying to myself, Becky, you can do this. You definitely asked for your coffee a certain way. You can speak up in a way to get your needs met and still be respectful to other people, right? By no plans to like throw the coffee or yell at someone. And it's okay
Starting point is 00:08:19 to want things for yourself. It's okay to speak up for what you want. And, and I think this is what really allowed, and I'll share the next part of the story, and it's okay for someone else to feel a little bit annoyed in the process. I think, and if I look back on my life years ago, here's what I think would have happened if I spoke up for my coffee being redone. Maybe I would have said it kind of timidly, and then I would have
Starting point is 00:08:51 been really hypervigilant. Like, what is the reaction of the person behind me? What is the reaction of the barista? And their reactions will tell me whether or not it was right that I asked for my coffee to be redone. I think, I don't know about you, I think I was almost years ago waiting for someone behind me to be like, oh, amazing, amazing job. That was the right decision, A plus. Or I would want the coffee person to say,
Starting point is 00:09:19 oh my goodness, you totally did tell me that. Of course you should ask for your coffee to be redone. High five standing up for yourself. And if they didn't do that, even if they did this years ago, okay. I would have been like, oh my goodness, that shrug. That shrug was basically a sign that I'm a selfish, horrible person.
Starting point is 00:09:38 And I held up the whole line and I shouldn't have done this and what's wrong with me. And now for the next two weeks, I will grovel by taking care of every single person and never doing anything for myself again. I really think I would have done that. And when I articulate it, you may be like, Becky, that is going really far in a certain direction,
Starting point is 00:09:56 but I don't know if I'm alone in kind of taking in data from the world in that way. And if I am, well, I guess I was the only one. So here's what I did. I said to myself that I could do this. That's actually step one. I think when we give ourselves permission to want something and we give ourselves permission to tolerate other people being inconvenienced
Starting point is 00:10:28 along the way, it's kind of like 90% of, quote, the work. Because now, first of all, I'm not surprised if someone seems annoyed, but I'm also not using other people's reaction as the barometer of my decision. I've already preloaded my body with kind of permission to want. I don't know, I've actually never said that before, but I'm going to pause on that because my body had a reaction to that. Permission to want something that benefits me. Traveling during spring break can feel tricky because we can't necessarily take time off work when our kids are off from school.
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Starting point is 00:12:13 because I think about this moment of panic where I see something go by in a grocery kind of store when I'm paying and I'm like, wait, I definitely just bought milk yesterday. I really don't need that milk. And I'm like, oh, again, kind of like the coffee. Do I say, wait, I don't need milk yesterday. I really don't need that milk. And I'm like, oh, again, kind of like the coffee. Do I say, wait, I don't need the milk? And then they need to get the manager
Starting point is 00:12:29 and I'm looking behind me and I'm like, actually forget it. I actually do want 30 milks that will expire, right? So it's like, we all have these moments. So concretely, what I said to myself was I give myself permission to get my coffee the way I want it. I'm allowed to drink my coffee the way I had intended to have my coffee. I kind of feel like I'm starting like a revolution in saying this because yes, we're talking about coffee, but it really does feel very big.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I told myself that. And then I did communicate respectfully when it was kind of my turn to communicate with the person at the register, I waited for someone else to order. And here's what I said, I said, oh, excuse me. I'm noticing my coffee has a lot of milk in it. I asked for just a little bit. Would you be able to pour out some of what's in the cup and then fill up the rest with coffee? So it's a little
Starting point is 00:13:34 bit darker. I said, I mean, if you want to know how the story ended, you know, it's really interesting. I can't remember if the truth was that the person kind of just said, sure, no problem, and just did it. Or if I just wasn't so hyper vigilant to that person's reaction, looking for any sign of annoyance. Like I wonder if someone else would have said that person looked annoyed, but because I had kind of pre-given myself permission
Starting point is 00:14:05 and gotten ready for a certain reaction, I actually changed the goggles I was wearing to see the situation. I honestly have no idea which it was. But I think because I had given myself that permission, my view of the situation shifted. Now, I know what you might be thinking. Okay, Becky, that sounds like a lovely story,
Starting point is 00:14:23 but the thing that would stop me from doing it is just guilt. I'd feel so guilty making someone redo my coffee. I'd feel so guilty having someone put back the milk and un-kind of scan it. And I know it's true, right? You always have to like put in the card and get the manager and they have to like type in the code. It's very complicated and it is a lot of steps. And you would say, I feel so guilty. I don't know if that feeling is guilt that we all say gets in our way of getting what we want. See, the way I think about guilt
Starting point is 00:14:57 is guilt is a feeling we have when we act out of alignment with our values. Now, in that coffee situation, if what I had said when I got it was, who made my coffee like this? I did not order light coffee. Okay, I think I would have felt guilty. Why?
Starting point is 00:15:17 My value is never to yell at someone. My value is never to yell at someone who's ostensibly trying to help me. My value is to treat people respectfully, even when I'm upset with them. So if I had yelled those things, I would definitely feel guilty. But it's interesting the thing we say to ourselves. If I ask someone even respectfully to redo my coffee, I'd feel so guilty. And I don't think that's guilt,
Starting point is 00:15:45 because I doubt when you can tell me that what you're saying is my value is never getting anything I want for myself. Maybe I'd push it and say, I wonder if that value, even if you learned it early on, really works for you in 2025. But then I think it begs the question, well, Becky, I do feel really uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:16:11 So if it's not guilt, what is it? And let me just say right there, I believe you, there is this feeling of, my goodness, that person's redoing my coffee. And then we say it's guilt, but changing what we call it shifts everything. Okay? I think that feeling isn't guilt at all. It is our tendency to notice other people's distress
Starting point is 00:16:34 and say, oh, you're upset. Whoa, I'll take that from you. Take it from their body. And we say, I will put that in my body. I'll call it guilt, but I will take care of that feeling so you don't have to have it. That isn't guilt. That is taking ownership of other people's feelings
Starting point is 00:16:59 and metabolizing the feeling for them. So I want you to really think about that difference. I wish there was some kind of really snazzy name to call that feeling. I can tell you what I do in my own life when I say, oh, I can't do that, I feel so guilty. Is it really guilt? Oh, wait, no, I'm not acting out alignment with my values.
Starting point is 00:17:18 And so I just call it not guilt for lack of a better, more sophisticated term. Becky, that's not guilt. I'm allowed to get my coffee. And if someone else is annoyed, they're allowed to be annoyed. I mean, I don't know about you, but I feel a decent amount of annoyance
Starting point is 00:17:34 a lot of part of my day. I don't want anyone to purposely make me annoyed, but there's no way I was asking for my coffee to be redone to make the person inconvenienced, to make them annoyed. If that was the case, you know, we can have that conversation a different time. These were just two things that had to happen. I gave myself permission to drink my coffee the way I ordered it. And if the other person felt annoyed, that is okay to allow that person to have those feelings and manage those feelings.
Starting point is 00:18:09 We are so used to reaching out to someone else kind of on the other side of the tennis court and grabbing their feelings from their body and taking it into ours. That no wonder we have a hard time locating what we want and need. We are so filled up with other people's emotions. And so I allowed that feeling to be someone else's.
Starting point is 00:18:33 In some ways, sometimes I go like this, like, I'm going to give it back. Not out of cruelty, but just I have to give it back to its original owner. That wasn't my feeling in the first place. My feeling is struggling to speak up for what I want. I can deal with that feeling. That's enough on a kind of Monday morning. So I want you to really think about that when you consider speaking up for what you want.
Starting point is 00:18:54 When you tell yourself, I couldn't do it. It's just, I would feel too guilty. Is it really guilt or is it really this tendency that we probably learned around being a good girl to notice everyone else's feelings at the expense of our own and to take care of everyone else's distress at the expense of actually meeting our own needs? Okay, let's get to a point of action because I love deep ideas, but I really, really like more than that,
Starting point is 00:19:29 a deep idea paired with an actionable strategy. I really, really do because when we understand something and do something about it, that is how we have small shifts that add up. So being an inconvenient woman. Well, let me just tell you the truth. I love this phrase cause it makes me laugh. Oh, I'm an inconvenient woman.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Sometimes I imagine saying to someone, don't pardon me. I'm an inconvenient woman. But the whole goal isn't to be inconvenient. That's not like my number one intention. Who can I inconvenience today? No. There's two parts. What it starts with is not being inconvenient.
Starting point is 00:20:01 What it starts with, and this is your challenge today, is thinking about your, I want my coffee, I want it, moment. And then just knowing if you play that out, you will have to tolerate someone else's inconvenience. That's what it means to be an inconvenient woman. It's not really inconvenience first. It's gazing in and asking yourself one thing that you want for yourself first.
Starting point is 00:20:36 And second, tolerating the inherent inconvenience that always goes along with that. That's your challenge today if you seek to take it up. I can't wait to hear what you choose. Do you want to learn more about how we're celebrating being an inconvenient woman at Good Inside? Tap the link in show notes or head to goodinside.com for more.

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