Good Inside with Dr. Becky - The Thoughts New Parents Don’t Say Out Loud

Episode Date: April 28, 2026

If you’re pregnant… just had a baby… or love someone who is about to become a parent… this episode is for you! This is a preview of Rattled—a brand-new podcast from Good Inside, created for those early weeks and months of parenthood, when everything feels new, intense, and a little disorienting. Each episode of Rattled starts with a thought—the kind that shows up at 2 a.m., the kind you don’t always say out loud, the kind that can make you wonder if something is wrong with you. In this preview, you’ll hear from two parents: Caro Chambers—writer, chef, and mom of four—on the moment it hit her:“Oh… my whole life has changed.” And Leah Smart—executive coach, podcast host, and new mom—on experiencing intrusive thoughts during pregnancy and postpartum, and what they actually mean (and don’t mean) about you. If you’ve ever had a complicated thought around a baby… or worried about what your thoughts say about you—you're not the only one! Subscribe to Rattled; new episodes every Thursday. Learn more about Good Inside Baby. Because the best way to care for a baby… is to care for the person holding the baby! Thank you to our partners for making this episode possible: Ole Henriksen: Use the code DRBECKY30 for 30% off the Banana Bright+ Eye Crème LMNT: Get a free 8-count sample pack with your purchase at LMNT.com/goodinside Hiya: Use the code DRBECKY for 50% off your first order Good Inside is growing up! Listen to The In-Between Years with Dr. Sheryl, for parents of teens and tweens! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

For years that good inside, we focused on the huge changes that parents go through when they're learning to work with toddlers and young kids. But as anyone with an infant can tell you, the ground shifts hard before all that. In the third trimester, in the weeks with the newborn, in the stretches when everything feels bigger and closer to the surface than you expected and it all feels like it's going to be like that forever. And nobody prepared you for what's happening inside your body. and inside your head. At Good Inside, we've started building something for that. The first piece is a new podcast called Braddled, a show for when New Parenthood shakes you.

Every episode starts with a thought that doesn't quite make it into the group chat. Thoughts like, why don't I love this? I miss my old life. Why is this so boring? Why didn't anyone warn me about the fine print? And even,

What if I hurt my baby? We named the thought. We sit with the guest who lived it, and we work it out together. And there is even more for new parents coming from good inside later this spring. And I'll tell you about it on the other end of today's episode. Today I want to play you two excerpts, one from each of our first two rattled guests.

First up, Caro Chambers. You may know her from her cookbook and her substack. what to cook when you don't feel like cooking. She's a mom of four. And in this clip, she tells me about a 6.30 a.m. morning in Carmel, California, when she woke up and realized, nobody told me this would happen. Tell me a little bit about who Caro Chambers was before your first baby. Ooh, okay. I did whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted. That's who I was.

I mean, chef's kiss about pre-child life. Okay. And at that point in your life, pre-motherhood, paint me a picture, like all the details, it doesn't even have to be the most representative of a moment before having kids where you were like, I felt really productive today. I felt really worthy. Like, I got something done. Oh, great.

Okay. So a worthy day pre-kids was like I had a morning routine that I would actually stick to. Like, I used to set an alarm, you know, wake up. have cup of coffee, exercise, get home. If I, like, was exercised, bathed, hair ready to go for the day by 9 a.m., I was like, I'm crushing. Like, this is, today will be the best day ever. And just to stick on that, how many reps do you think your body had? Oh. Of doing that and associating that with worth and productivity before you had a child. That's such a great, yeah. I mean, how old was I when I had my first kid, 29, I would say I started doing that, like, as a young professional living in New York City

at 21. It was like, wake up, exercise, get showered, go to work. And yeah, so nine years of... Yeah. So I'm going to make up nine times 300. Let's say you did 300 days. Nine times three is 20... This is like 2,700 reps of doing it. It probably going according to plan because there weren't that many variables and then your body learning that was productivity and worth. I have a feeling we're going to circle back to that. Okay. Okay. Anything that you assumed would just come naturally when you became a mom? All of it? I am not like a big, like I'm not like a planner. I'm extremely opposite of type A. I just kind of roll with things as they come. And I remember this baby being here and like I felt like a broken shell of a human you know, like my bladder was all messed up and my boobs were crazy and everything was so messed up

in my own body that I remember just looking at this baby and being like, they're going to let us take it home? Like what? I don't know how to do it. Like, I don't know what to do with this thing or what it wants when it cries. And I felt extremely overwhelmed by that at the beginning. Like, there is so much that happens in your own body and that I had no idea about. Like, I was like, oh, you have the baby and it hurts.

when you have the baby. Like I was like, oh, yeah, you know, you scream, you get the baby out, and then it's over. No. Like, you've only, you know, sometimes that is only just the beginning and that I had no idea about. So I don't, I think I felt so selfish in those first weeks because I thought about myself, like, all the time. Like, I thought about, oh, my gosh, is, why are my boobs so engorge? Why is this happening? Why is that happening? Am I ever going to pee normally again, like, why do I keep peeing myself every time I laugh? Like, is any of this normal, normal, normal? And I had no idea that any of that was coming. So I think I pictured this cozy little bubble with a baby. And really, I ended up thinking about myself a lot. Yeah. The baby was

the subject. Yes. Like, no one told you to think about you. Yeah, that's exactly it. I imagined thinking about the baby all the time, having these like cozy, cuddly moments with my husband and the baby. And yeah, it really felt like I thought about myself a lot more than I thought I thought of it. Yeah. I want to know if you can take a moment to think about a night, a morning, whatever it was, that's still now for that first child, like, you can still remember. Okay. So I'm a sleeper. Well, I was.

I used to be a sleeper. I really slept in this morning, and I was like, I used to do this. Like, I used to actually do this. All the weekends, I would, like, really sleep in. And I remember very specifically, you know, once the newborn starts to, like, kind of figure out when they want to wake out. for the day, you know, like, they go from just sleeping every two hours to, like, having the smoke where they actually, like, open their eyes and they're awake for the day. Yeah.

And it's usually around, like, I don't, I think, two weeks. I remember, like, at 6.30, this baby was, like, awake and needed, like, to be taken care of and attention. And I was like, oh, I've completely changed my life. Like, I have completely, like, I did not think about the fact that I now, like, I don't just get to sleep if I want to sleep. Right. And I don't just get to go to the gym if I want to go to the gym or, like, I don't just get to go to gym or, you know, whatever it is. Like, I have this thing to take care of all the time. And I remember so

specifically, it was like when the baby, like, woke up for the first time. Where were you? In, I was in Carmel, California. And I was in bed. And I, like, so specifically remember, like, at first you can always kind of nurse the baby back to sleep, you know, or bottle the baby back to sleep. And then, like, all of a sudden, you know, I'd feed him and he was still awake. And I was like, oh, no, this is like a different, this is a whole different beast. Like, now, what am I supposed to do with you? Yeah. I have to, like, entertain you. And so you're in bed.

It's dark outside. Oh, yeah, it's dark outside. It's winter. It's winter. But, okay, it's 6.30 in the morning. Sixthirty in the morning. And you're not someone who's like the 6.30 rising shiner. No.

No. And so even for the first two weeks, maybe there was a call out from your baby, but you're like half awake, half a sleeve, just like nursing back to bed, and then you kind of go back. It's like kind of, did that happen or not? It's like a little half conscious. Exactly. But this was different.

This was different. This was like that moment when all of a sudden the baby stops being like this squawky newborn and starts being a baby. And like all of a sudden they are like awake, rise and shine for the day. And you're like, oh, I wasn't prepared for that. Yeah. We're here together now.

And so if I, I don't even know if this is the right word, had a camera or like, it's been recording inside your brain, that first morning at 6.30 when this happened, when you're like, this is not going to be. according to plan. Yeah. What am I hearing? What's the thought?

Oh, well, I definitely remember having some very, like, big thoughts. Like, I remember thinking, like, I've completely changed my entire life, and, like, no one really warned me that that was happening. Like, I definitely remember thinking, like, was I, you know, was I actually ready to do this? Like, was I ready to change 100% change my life? Have somebody else depending on me all the time. But yeah, I definitely remember just thinking, like, whoa, my full life has changed and was I ready for this? And no one told me.

Yeah. Like, I feel like I signed a contract without, like, there was some fine print in there. Like, they snuck it in. Where was this? Yeah. Exactly. And just the language you just used really strikes me. Because when I think about, like, I picture, I remember is probably like three weeks in.

And I remember my sister-in-law coming into my room. I was like, you know, feeding my baby, and she was just, like, very innocently, like, how's it going? It's like 4 p.m. Yeah. And it was, you know, it was the fall. So, you know, it was that 4 p.m. like dread. And I was like, it's not good.

You know, and she didn't, she was younger than me, didn't have kids. And a little, she's like, oh, okay. Like, then anticipate this conversation. But I picture my moment, which on the surface is different than your moment, but there's one moment where the stories you tell yourself are so big. Yeah. Am I cut out to do this? Like, do good parents feel this way? Like, and I feel like that moment's truth felt like the forever truth. Like, I was going to feel this way forever. That feeling in brand new motherhood is so terrifying and suffocating. It's still like, I'm going to feel this way forever. It also, it keeps going, right, into toddlerhood, like, oh, he's going to act

like a little dementor at dinner every single night. Like, those feelings continue, but there's none as raw as in brand new motherhood when you're like, oh, I'm going to feel like I'm not cut out for this or whatever it is. Yeah. Or he's going to scream at 4 p.m. every single night for 30 minutes forever.

Yeah. Feels so intense. It is. Safficating. Whenever I say that to a new parent around like the forever truth, they're like, I know. That's, and that's why it feels so awful, I think, right? Yes.

Because if something felt awful, but then your next thought was, but I won't feel like this forever. Like you're like, oh, I'm immediately able to deal with it. And the newborns go through so many stages, right? I remember being so addicted to the Wonder Weeks app with my first

because it like kind of tells you your baby's just learning to open their eyes so they're seeing the world, so it's like overwhelming for them, whatever. It tells you these things. Since that first baby, I've backed off of that and just been like, this is a moment. This is a phase. It might be an hour.

It might be two weeks, but like this fussiness is going to pass. This like inability to fall asleep without me being attached to them is going to pass. I had such bad postpartum anxiety. Like I got up and checked on his breathing 20 times a night. I had like all the monitors, the outlet on his foot, the, you know, camera looking down at him. Like I had all the monitors and I realize now that that was perpetuating the problem so much for me. Because I felt like if I wasn't looking at the monitors, then something bad would have. When the solution kind of becomes the problem?

Yes. Yeah. Yes, because I'd be, like, out at lunch, having really nice time with a friend, the baby would be perfectly happy. And I'd be like, I'd got to get home. You know, in 15 minutes, he's going to be overtired, and then he'll never fall asleep. And I, like, wrote this. And then it would be up all night. And then I'll never sleep, and then I'll turn into a monster tomorrow and da-da-da-da.

And you really psych yourself out. And you tell yourself these stories of like, if this happens, that'll happen. And it's usually not true. Yeah. When we're in hypervigilance mode, right? Everything could be a problem, so everything needs a proactive solution. Yes, God, that's exactly. I'm happy here with my friend, but this could mean that.

And I got into, like, optimizing moments where my baby would be on a play mat. Oh. Perfectly happy. Oh. And I'm like, I'm going to go at this thing. I feel like now when I see him up, I was like, when the baby is happy, sit down. down. Drink your coffee. Call your friend. Like, no, I wish I didn't. There's so many moments I have to go to your baby. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Nobody tells you how much of the early

weeks is just trying to figure out what actually happened to you. The next interview sits in a similar place, but with very different texture. It's with Leah Smart, a writer, an executive of coach and a first-time mom who came on rattled to talk about something a lot of new parents quietly carry and almost never say out loud. Intrusive thoughts. Jarring. Terrifying thoughts. Like, what if I hurt my kid? I know that's a hard sentence to hear. And it's a real experience for so many new parents. In this clip, Leah walks me through what actually happened inside her body and brain when those thoughts landed. And then we talk about what's actually at the root of it. Listen for the moment where Leah names that directly. And then we reframe the whole thing

together. This back and forth is what rattled is built for. Here's Leah. I want to actually kind of zone in to a day, to an hour, to a moment where, I don't know, you just still remember. Something feels It gets shifted. It rattled you. Tell me about a moment. When I was about five months, I started having panic attacks going into the subway. And I lived in New York for a long time. So this was a new thing for me.

And so I was diagnosed with perinatal anxiety. I saw a maternal psychiatrist, which was, you know, it's funny. I've dealt with anxiety a lot of my life, but this felt different because I was pregnant, because I didn't know how it would impact the baby because it felt a little more shameful because no one had ever told me. I only knew about postpartum depression, honestly, was all I'd ever really heard about. So I was dealing with that.

And with that for me came something called intrusive thoughts, which is your own fears of the things, basically, that matter most, triggering your brain over and over again and getting you into this really high anxiety mode. And these are, you know, these are tough moments. So I also just want to be thoughtful of people who've experienced them and maybe you're just hearing right now what they are. But I found so many women after I'd had my baby in my mom's group.

I'm on the committee for a mom's group here in the city. We're like, I had these thoughts. What if I threw my baby out the window? What if I saw a knife and then I hurt the baby? What if I hurt myself? I mean, you know, the what ifs can spin out of control. And what you learn is number one, you're triggered by what matters.

If I have an intrusive thought that's like, what if I go into a church and scream something blasphemous, but I'm not religious and I never go to church, it'll pass through my mind. If I have an intrusive thought that's about this tiny little being that I just gave birth to with my husband, who I love, and I'm making up that I'm the only person in the world who's ever had these thoughts, it will push you into a different zone,

and it can just create more anxiety and create distance between you and the baby. So first of all, thank you for sharing, even all that you've shared so far. And I know you know this, but just naming these thoughts, like, what if I throw my baby out the window? You're not the only one. People listening have had that thought. And it really is the story we tell ourselves about our thoughts that determines kind of how we feel after, right? But before we get to all the ways that you learn to tell yourself an understandable,

grounding story. Were there hours, minutes, seconds that you, at that time, that you couldn't find that story? Oh, my God, yeah. I mean, I had intrusive thoughts before I was pregnant. Before, so it got worse, right? Because something even more important is being put into the story that didn't exist

when I was, you know, single or when I just met my husband. But yeah, oh my God. I had, I can remember. certain days when I just had space. And so, you know, I do my morning routine, but that was over by 11, right? So by 11, I'm like, all right, you know, what am I up to? And often, again, as I mentioned,

my husband was gone on the weekend. So it was up to me to kind of figure out what I wanted to do, and some days I just wanted to be on my own. But some days, I was on my own and spinning in intrusive thoughts and going, oh, my gosh, this is scary. and I had to figure out alone, before I even saw a therapist,

what it was, what they were. So what is that spot? Like, just, okay, what if I'm just gonna start with one? What if I threw my baby? Yeah, yeah. Is it, does my heart start racing? Is it, do I start thinking about it? Do I then start saying, what kind of mom has those thoughts?

Like, if I'm inside your brain and body, what's going on? How could I think that? What's wrong with me? The more that you spin it up and you keep going, oh my god, I can't believe I just had that thought. What does that mean about me? Am I okay? Am I normal? I'm not normal.

And it's that whole thing just keeps going. And so the more that you spin that up, the worse it gets. It's like telling you not to think about a pink elephant. Right. We're all thinking about it now. You know, so it's the challenge is that... But I guess the difference with the pink elephant is, if I had a preconceived notion,

that thinking about a pink elephant meant I was a bad, awful person. Exactly. Then thinking about a pink elephant not only becomes consuming, but it becomes, it almost starts to inform how I think about my identity. Oh, there's that thought. I become so scared of the thought. The last time I had the thought when I was putting the baby down

for a nap, and am I gonna have the thought today when, right, we become, I don't know, does that be? Yes. Okay, so tell me. Oh, my gosh, yeah. It's the, like, obsession with the thing. Yes. And the obsession is what creates the spiral, And really, the obsession is about the fear of something happening.

It's not wanting it to happen. If you don't want it to happen, and you combine that with the fear and the anxiety, you're going to make it big because of how much it matters. And that was the biggest turning point for me was, the fears I have are actually about the opposite, wanting the opposite. So, you know, if I fear for my baby, or I fear, you know, like, what if I hurt my dog, you know, whatever.

I love my dog. I never hurt my dog. You are not your thoughts. That's right. And you do not, you don't even act on most of your thoughts. What is it? Like, I don't know if the number is still 87,000 thoughts a day. Most of them are, you know, repeated, and most of them are negative, and most of them are

about you. And so we have a lot of, a lot of thoughts throughout the day. But most we just kind of let pass through, like clouds. And when we really care about something is, when that moment is the moment you get, like, trapped. So I had to go find my own answers. And then the days I would spiral, or the times I would spiral, I would use the things I'd found and go for a walk

and listen to, you know, a book about intrusive thoughts just to remind myself, oh, this isn't real. So there's a couple things I want to break down. I don't know why, but it's a helpful comparison to me. I'm thinking about, I happen to not be, too scared of flying, but I know a lot of people who are. And I'm thinking about being on a plane and someone thinking, hope the plane doesn't crash, I hope the plane doesn't crash.

Right. That thought doesn't make the plane more likely to crash. And that is such a good example of clearly you're thinking about that obsessively because you don't. You want to spend alive. Right? Right. Yeah. Right.

And so if I bring that back here, I think maybe the difference is it feels so charged with this, maybe it's going back to what we started with. you must only have happy feelings about being a mom now. About life, about everything, exactly. And so I just want to add it because I think it matters. I'm thinking about the person listening who took a really long time to get pregnant. Maybe a lot of losses, you know, fertility struggles. Yeah.

And then the baby's here and they have the thought. Oh. I haven't thought of throwing my baby out the window. And I'm thinking about, I spent, X amount of what kind of person, right? And what I love about your framework is, first of all, with our thoughts and the things we say, the truth is rarely in the words.

Like, when I say to my husband, you never help with anything. And I don't like, anyone knows if he says, well, I took the garbage out yesterday, I'd be like, this is like not a discussion. We're not going here. Trust me. Walk it back. Because what I want him to understand is I'm overwhelmed with Beth.

That's it. And so I just think, and so when I think, I'm going to throw this baby out the window, you're saying, that's not the real thing. The real thing is, I love this baby. And it's so precious and vulnerable. And it's in my control. And that's new. I've never felt all those things at once. And my body is kind of telling me, whoa, you care a lot.

This is new. you're figuring this out, right? And how that got translated into words, just like in an argument with my husband, gets a little tripped up. Yeah, they say like the topic is never the topic, right? So it's like, what's underneath? And you just said, you're like, this is me saying,

I need help. This isn't about you don't do anything. This is I need help. And so there is like a, I mean, everything comes back to you, right? It's like, as we're talking about, about people who are maybe frustrated with others because they have what they don't have. It's like, it's really all like, I'm throwing this thing onto you,

and then, yeah, I'm getting it mirrored back. And it hurts. And so I have to find a way to get it out without continuing to feel uncomfortable. Yeah. I want to ask you a question about those moments, those intrusive thoughts. How was or was not your partner involved in those,

you know, did you share them? Did he know? How did that go? No. I have the, I'll tell you what this was like, and then I have a really absurd story about it. But I am someone who, the reason I can see her and talk to you about it today is because it's processed. And as someone who like cares a lot about self-development and I do seek help and I do want to learn and I do want to understand, I want to do all of that. But I can't share until something has moved through my body and I can talk about it without going, oh my God.

Like even just now, when I was starting to tell you, I felt my heart race little, I was like, ooh, I haven't talked about this in a while. Yeah. Right? And like, it is processed. And, you know, and I'm gonna have another baby soon. And so I might be challenged again.

Maybe not. I don't know. But I am, and sometimes to my own, like, my own peril, I mean, that feels aggressive, but is I like to do things alone. I like to go to my therapist and work through something, and then I can come back and I can talk about it. Work through the mess. My mess is privately.

Yeah. And then I'm going to share it with you. Yeah. When I get to that next step. I clean up my side of the street and I don't really share what that looked like before until it's clean. That's Leah Smart. And this is rattled.

It's the show I wish I had when my first kid was a newborn. And it's the show I most want out in the world now. If you listen to these clips and felt something light up or just crack open, I want you to do two things. One, visit and subscribe to the rattled podcast feed and listen to the full episodes. The link is in the show notes. And two, send rattle to someone, the friend who's pregnant, the sister-in-law who just had a baby, the co-worker in the third trimester who's been a little too quiet in the group chat. And yes, please don't forget the dads and the dads to be. And one more thing I promised you at the top.

we have a lot more coming for new and expecting parents at Good Inside later this spring, a home for the baby years inside the Good Inside app, sleep support, lactation expertise, feeding guidance, workshops, tools, stuff for your partnership and for you and a whole community talking about their challenges and wins, honestly, each and every day. And it's all designed around one core belief. The best way to take care of a baby is, to take care of the person holding the baby. If you want to be the first to know when good inside baby fully launches,

I really want to be able to tell you and you can find that link in the show notes as well. Until next time, place your feet on the ground, a hand on your heart, and remind yourself, even as we struggle on the outside, we remain good inside.

I believe in you. You've got this. And I'll see you soon.