Good Life Project - Eve Branson: The Adventurous Life

Episode Date: July 24, 2014

You may recognize the last name of today's guest.Yes, Eve Branson is the mom of legendary entrepreneur, Virgin founder and adventurer, Richard Branson. But she's also very much a force of nature in he...r own right. In fact, it's easy to see where Richard got his legendary sense of possibility and adventure from.Eve is a multi-time entrepreneur, former ballet dancer, military gliding instructor for the Women's Royal Naval Services or WRENS during World War II, flight-attendant, mom of three kids, philanthropist and founder of the Eve Branson Foundation and now author of a new book called Mum's the Word: The High-Flying Adventures of Eve Branson.I recently had a chance to sit down with Eve to explore her remarkable journey. The conversation ranged from how both her and Richard turned dyslexia into a "different way" of working in the world and even an asset to how she became involved in improving the lives of women and children in Morocco. Common to nearly everything she's accomplished is an indomitable spirit and a lens that says anything is possible, no matter what anyone else says.Enjoy the conversation! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Good Life Project, where we take you behind the scenes for in-depth, candid conversations with artists, entrepreneurs, makers, and world shakers. Here's your host, Jonathan Fields. I'm Jonathan Fields, and this is Good Life Project. My guest today is Eve Branson. Eve Branson is a force of nature with what seems to be an insatiable desire for adventure. As a young woman, Eve disguised herself as a boy to take glider lessons. She enlisted in the Wrens to help the war effort in World War II,
Starting point is 00:00:43 acted as a dancer in London's West End Theatre, and then as a flight attendant. Retiring from her airborne adventures, at least temporarily, she married the love of her life and then raised three stunningly accomplished kids, including Virgin founder Richard Branson. She's traveled the world, written articles, novels, children's books, and now a new memoir called Mums the Word. Eve has also been a lifelong advocate for child welfare. She's a founder and director of the Eve Branson Foundation, which provides training and entrepreneurial skills to local communities in Morocco. The Apple Watch Series 10 is here. It has the biggest display ever.
Starting point is 00:01:26 It's also the thinnest Apple Watch ever, making it even more comfortable on your wrist, whether you're running, swimming, or sleeping. And it's the fastest-charging Apple Watch, getting you eight hours of charge in just 15 minutes. The Apple Watch Series X. Available for the first time in glossy jet black aluminum. Compared to previous generations
Starting point is 00:01:46 iphone 10s are later required charge time and actual results will vary mayday mayday we've been compromised the pilot's a hitman i knew you were gonna be fun on january 24th tell me how to fly this thing mark walberg you know what the difference between me and you you're gonna die don't shoot if we him. Y'all need a pilot. Flight Risk. So, it's so wonderful to be spending some time with you today. You come from, after reading your book, it seems like a lineage of incredibly adventurous women.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Well, it's been a very interesting life, put it that way. Yeah, tell me a little bit about, because it sounds like your mom and grandmother, there's been a tradition of adventure taking. Yes, yes. I think women have been a bit crazy, all down the line, yeah. So, and when did you start to sort of be inspired by this adventure or spirit? It sounds like it's been from the very beginning.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I don't know. I mean, I think because I'm not very literate and it was terrible at school and all this sort of thing, I've had to make my way in a quite different type of way. So it was, adventure was really to the fore and anything to do with learning was put in the background. So talk to me a little bit about this, because from what I understand, you're dyslexic. Yeah. And what's so fascinating to me is that I've had so many conversations
Starting point is 00:03:19 with many entrepreneurs and artists who have achieved extraordinary things who are dyslexic. And in an odd way, I wonder if there's a relationship there in some way. Yes. Well, you see Richard's dyslexic. And I think you sort of see something very clearly. On the other hand, you have a real old muddly mind apart from that time. But you've always got this clear, I know exactly where I want to go. And that's, I suppose, being dyslexic. But apart from that, you're in a muddle. I'm always in a muddle.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Right. And I guess to a certain extent you have to find other ways to get there that may be not traditional. So maybe it takes you down a different path. That's right. Yeah, completely. So your different path took you to dance. Tell me about this.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Yeah, well, because I was so hopeless at school and everything, the one thing I adored was dancing, and I managed to get up to the advanced grade in my ballet. It was classical ballet. Everything was fine, but they found my big toe was too big for my next toe. So I couldn't get up on my pointe shoes properly. The career ender with that. That's the end of that career. Okay. I had got as far as to advance to star
Starting point is 00:04:36 A.D. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, but that wasn't the end of your dance career, though. Well, then I had quite a few stage performances after that. So it helped. It did help. Right. What was it about dance that drew you?
Starting point is 00:04:54 About dancing? Yeah. Well, I liked the stage. As some found out, I quite enjoyed being on the stage in London. So I had quite a few of the top shows in London. And that was interesting. So this little dyslexic woman,
Starting point is 00:05:11 she was in His Majesty's Theatre and the Prince of Wales Theatre. So that was... My family were in Devon, so they didn't know what I was doing. So they're miles away. So I got away with the goodness knows what. Ah.
Starting point is 00:05:29 So you're enjoying life as a dancer. And there was, at one point, it's in your book you write about this, you found yourself living on top of a serial killer? Yes. You've got to tell me. I need more information about this. That was a little bit dramatic. I mean, luckily, with my family tucked away in Devon,
Starting point is 00:05:52 I had one of my girlfriends, a Monsignor girlfriend, and we took a lovely little muse flat in London. And we were absolutely chuffed. We thought we had hit the top until the police knocked on our door and said, excuse me, do you know who's in the news flat below you? So we said, no, he's a sort of funny man,
Starting point is 00:06:15 but he's all right. He comes up every so often and talks to us. And the police said, well, you know who he is? And we said, no idea. He said, well, he's a serial killer, and we're just about to... He kills the women in the bath. He puts in acid bath. I mean, that's one way of killing women, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:06:33 So we weren't put in the bath, luckily, so we got away with that one. Talk about a knock on the door. A knock on the... Did that make you at all nervous about either living where you were? Never gave it a moment's thought. I mean, just because we got a burnt murderer below us,
Starting point is 00:06:54 I mean, if they hadn't murdered us, we'd have gone away with it. Right, it's kind of like in New York City on any given day. You never know who's around you. From there, you... It seems like you have this spirit that starts as a kid saying,
Starting point is 00:07:11 okay, the traditional path, schooling is just not working for me. But there's something indomitable in that you seem never to focus on what you can't do. And that showed up, so you embraced dance. And then you eventually joined the Wrens during the Second World War, I guess. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Tell me a little bit about this. Well, I couldn't think. I was too young to join up. So I thought, well, how could I do something to help? So I joined the gliding and so I thought I'd become a gliding instructors so I dressed up as a man and went to the gliding school and I said them can I please learn how to glide so I can teach help teach the little boys because you couldn't be a woman to you had to be a man okay so there I was dressed up as a man, you know, got my little cap on.
Starting point is 00:08:07 And they said, well, yes, all right. They never didn't. They winked. I think they saw through me. And so I learned how to glide. And that was fine. I taught the little boys. And it was all right.
Starting point is 00:08:22 It was my turn to go high because we had only one person in the glider. And I took off and went higher and higher and when I got really high I had to release and being me being me released when my nose was up in the air and of course I got in a spin and came down like this and I could sort of see these chaps down below thinking oh my god now this work she's going to be caught nub She's going to crash. And luckily, I pulled the trigger just in the right moment. So all was well there. Got away with that one.
Starting point is 00:08:53 So did you have a desire to go up in a glider again after that? No. I think I changed my tune. They now realized I was a woman and not a man. Right. And from there, you also, it seems like, though, that you had a fascination with being in the air. I did. I did. The next thing is, I thought, because the war was, you know, I was a wren during the war,
Starting point is 00:09:25 and life was quite interesting, but time to do something else. So the war's over, and I decided to become an air hostess, and then I could see the world a bit. So I marched to the... Found somebody who'd let me in to tell me when I could join up, and marched in and said I could speak languages, and I was a nurse, and terrible. I mean, all lies, but they took me on. And so I found myself then as a mare hostess.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Okay, so we're detecting common themes here. Fraudulently talking your way into certain experiences in life. Yeah. certain experiences in life. What is it that's in you that just says, this is what I want to do, I'm going to do it. I don't care what the rules are. Well, I suppose if you're not very intelligent, you have to sort of get away with it somehow. I don't believe.
Starting point is 00:10:24 There's not a fiber of my being that believes the first part of that sentence. There's clearly a large amount of brilliance in you. I don't know what to put it down to. I mean, it's always, I have this rather naughty streak within me, which I think got away with quite a lot. So I think, I don't know, I did get away with quite a lot. So I think, I don't know. I did get away with it.
Starting point is 00:10:47 So you spent some time on planes. And then, but then, and with some bumpy flights too, from the passages that I've read of yours. Then you fall in love? Well, then it was pretty dicey being an air host in there. It took us over a week to get from England to South America. And I was having the time of my life, of course. We spent a lot of time on the ground.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And over the Andes I went and came back. And then I'd met my husband by then, who was a rather dishy cavalry officer, who'd also just got demobbed. And he said, well, now look, I'm afraid you've got to stop being in all this danger. I'd better marry you, then you'll stop it, won't you? So I thought, well, okay, I'd better do that. So, but that was the end of the air adventure, but it also seemed to be the beginning of an entrepreneurial adventure for you. What did I do?
Starting point is 00:11:55 Well, I mean, obviously there was, you know, that was the start of your, you know, being a wife and then a mother. Yeah. And I want to explore that too. But it seemed like you were also, even then, like you were always building something on the side. Well, I had to because my dishy husband, I'm afraid, was of course, fought the war and had no qualifications. He was supposed to be a lawyer, but he hadn't got his finals.
Starting point is 00:12:26 And we, of course, start Richard on the first night of our honeymoon. Now, I wouldn't advise anybody. And so then there was no money. So I had to struggle because he had to learn to be a barrister. And it was up to me now to have a baby and to have no money and to find a house. And so it was quite a sort of struggle. Right. But you started your own business on the side.
Starting point is 00:12:55 I had to. I mean, I had to. I didn't know how to. I was unqualified about anything. So I thought, well, if I cut up a pillow and turn it into three cushions, that might make money. I'll make two cushions profit. So I started doing that. Of course we had feathers everywhere. That didn't last that long, but it worked. Right. And as you said, you started a family at the same time that you started as a wife. Yeah. So Richard was born within a year?
Starting point is 00:13:27 Well, yes, yes. Yeah, he was. So then we had Richard, the baby. And it wasn't long. So then I thought, well, I better have a go on making things and selling things. I couldn't do anything else, and I didn't even know how to do that. But I got away with being a bit naughty again. then of course I had another child and that that was just one over the odds indeed. Right and and then and then a third? And then of course I did wait a little while before the third.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Right and and it it seems like also that your adventurous spirit has been passed down to your children. Well, I think Richard's picked it up all right. So I've gone through hell following him now. Yeah, and talk to me a little bit more. I'm curious how, because on the one hand, and I'll share a story with you. When I was younger, I liked to rock climb, and I would travel around the world and climb. And I was in heaven, and I was very adventurous and a risk taker. And my mother would be at home just waiting for me to call
Starting point is 00:14:33 when I got down at the end of the day. And she loved the fact that I was very independent, and I loved to do these things, where at the same time, it was very hard for her. And I'm a parent now also. And I want to instill that same sense in my daughter. But now I get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:52 The only difference is that, unlike your mother, I had to be with my... He wanted me, actually, to be with him and my husband wherever he went. All these dangerous things, we always were there. He seemed to need, because his wife didn't want to do it, why should she? But I wanted to, and so by doing it, every minute I would write to take my mind off when he was really dangerous, because he has gone through quite a few very dangerous things. Yeah. So then writing for you became an outlet. Everything, yeah. I never thought I'd publish or anything,
Starting point is 00:15:31 but thanks to Holly coming into my life, Holly Pepe, that was the first time that I thought, well, she said, come on, you've got to publish this. Yeah. So that's the first time you published, but it seems like you've been writing and keeping journals for... Always.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Always. Yeah, yeah. What is it about just the process of journaling that's meaningful to you? I think if you're an artist, you want to paint. If you're a musician, you want to use your instrument. And as a writer, you just have to write. I mean, it's just
Starting point is 00:16:06 something that, that's about all I can do now. And I love it. I love it. But I couldn't paint and I couldn't play the piano. But I think I sort of can write. Yeah, no, because it was incredible reading your book. Just the detail of the stories and it was just to have that. I've often thought I should start to journal myself because I'm a writer, but I don't journal. And most writers that I know do journal. And I've thought that to be able to even just
Starting point is 00:16:37 have that to look back on, to just turn open a page and remember, I think would probably be pretty meaningful. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you're not dying with nothing. You're dying with your story behind you. But you don't do it for that reason. You just do it because you have to write.
Starting point is 00:17:01 And I've been lucky enough to lead a very interesting life because of richard then the apple watch series 10 is here it has the biggest display ever it's also the thinnest apple watch ever making it even more comfortable on your wrist whether you're running swimming or sleeping and it's the fastest charging Apple watch getting you eight hours of charge in just 15 minutes. The Apple watch series 10 available for the first time in glossy jet black aluminum compared to previous generations, iPhone tennis or later required charge time and actual results will vary. Mayday,
Starting point is 00:17:39 mayday. We've been compromised. The pilot's a hit man. I knew you were going to be fun on January 24th. Tell me how to fly this thing You know what the difference between me and you is you're gonna die Flight risk So you
Starting point is 00:18:08 Lead an interesting life partly because of Richard partly because Richard is who he is because of you. Right. You share a story in the book about, and maybe you can give me more background on this, wanting to, about the idea that children should be bold. Bold. Bold and not shy. Bold, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:18:32 And share this experience. Well, yeah, when they were little, my husband and I would not allow them to be shy. We said, look, if you're shy, you're just thinking of yourself. So we had to make them say the only way not to be shy is to put the other person at their ease. Do anything you like. Give them a lolly if necessary.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Do anything. But forget yourself. You would be selfish if you're shy. So it worked. And so Richard is completely unshy now. Which is so interesting because, I mean, I've always thought that there's, you know, either a level of introverted or extroverted. It's just you are that way or you aren't. Yeah, yeah. But your experience with Richard, at least,
Starting point is 00:19:17 was that he was, I guess, almost painfully shy when he was very young. Oh yeah. But now he's almost the opposite. Yes, he's not showing off. Some people think that because we've taught him that he's so good, really. He puts everybody else at their ease. And he's got, yeah, so he's good at that way. So he doesn't get ticked off with me anymore. But you're his mom to a certain extent. It's like the parent's job. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:50 You at some point also develop an interest in child welfare. Yeah. Tell me how this comes about. Well, I think I'm... Why does it come about? I had these various voluntary jobs and one of them was looking after children or poor children. But how does it come about that I'm working in Morocco, do you think? No, just your interests. I mean, where does this desire to sort of help and serve children in need,
Starting point is 00:20:26 has that been a common thread? Or was there an experience that moved you to become more involved in it? I don't know how. I was a JP, Justice of the Peace. And, of course, I had to deal with a lot of youngsters that were coming up before me who had got into trouble with the police. And one thing I rarely did learn, anything from 14 to 20, don't be too strict with them because they're going to get over their naughtiness by the time they're 20.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And so I learned a lot by being a JP, really. Right. And that, I guess, was another way for you to serve youth in a different way. Yeah, that's right, yeah. When do you become involved in Morocco? Well, Morocco was a bit of a mistake again. It's a very jagged line. I know.
Starting point is 00:21:30 It was, Richard was going around the world in his balloon. Now, these balloons were vast, much taller than the Tower of London. I mean, they were huge. So they used Morocco because early in the morning it was utterly still and a balloon fully blown up had to be utterly still. So Morocco was that way inclined early in the morning. So Richard was all dolled up, ready to go around the world in his balloon. And while he was getting dolled up,
Starting point is 00:22:02 I was taken up into the hills of Morocco and shown the most beautiful Casbah. And I thought, hey, it was for sale. So I thought, I must go and tell Richard. But meanwhile, of course, he was going around the world. So he no more wanted to know about buying a Casbah. But when I got down from the hills, the balloon was no more there. And what had happened, a jet had landed, and as it swiveled around to show the passengers this huge balloon,
Starting point is 00:22:33 the wind had gone under the balloon, and the balloon had gone. So by the time Richard got back, having changed, there was no balloon. Now, everybody was so sad but me, me. I thought now I can sell him my Casper and so that's how it happened. So that was the beginning of it? That was the beginning of a long story. And in your mind what did you want to create there? Well this is so exciting because I then got him at the breakfast table. That's the only hope and he was reading his paper. And I said, Richard, I found this Casper.
Starting point is 00:23:08 You've got to buy it. And shoving it under his newspaper. And he said, oh, mum. So he closed his newspaper. And he said, I tell you what, I will, on one condition, that you look after all the villagers around. And I thought, well, the village over the river, that'll be a good one to start.
Starting point is 00:23:29 So I said to Brahim, who was one of the managers of this hotel, Brahim, I'm going over to that village. I think they may need some help. Oh, he said, you don't want to go there. They throw stones at you. Right. Off I go next day over the river. Because for you, that's the invitation. That's it.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Oh, boy. It goes very soon. And I took a girlfriend, and we struggled up to this little village. And it was so poor. They had nothing. And I met Granddad going up, and Granddad introduced me to Granny at the top, and she gave me a mint tea. They're so hospitable.
Starting point is 00:24:04 That's all they've got is mint tea but mint tea we had and I said do you think the girls would like to learn to make things and I think she said yes I had an interpreter and so I said right I'm on so I thought from then on I'm going to help that village and no stones were thrown at me so I went back back. And from now on, I've got all these villages up there, and I'm trying to help make things for them, or teach them to make things, so they don't have to beg, or they can make their own money. So it's been very exciting, very exciting.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Yeah, so it's like you're teaching them the art of entrepreneurship, essentially. Well, what I didn't want is, all the Americans are so generous. I didn't want them begging. They wanted to make their own money, because they're proud people. And I wanted to help their pride. And so now they're all making wonderful things, and we're selling them for them. And the villages, the poor villages, are rarely getting on their feet and no longer so poor. So it's very exciting.
Starting point is 00:25:09 That must feel wonderful. It's very exciting, yes. And does that... The Apple Watch Series 10 is here. It has the biggest display ever. It's also the thinnest Apple Watch ever, making it even more comfortable on your wrist, whether you're running, swimming, or sleeping.
Starting point is 00:25:29 And it's the fastest-charging Apple Watch, getting you eight hours of charge in just 15 minutes. The Apple Watch Series X. Available for the first time in glossy jet black aluminum. Compared to previous generations, iPhone XS or later required, charge time and actual results will vary. Mayday, mayday. We've been compromised.
Starting point is 00:25:49 The pilot's a hitman. I knew you were going to be fun. On January 24th. Tell me how to fly this thing. Mark Wahlberg. You know what the difference between me and you is? You're going to die. Don't shoot him, we need him.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Y'all need a pilot. Flight risk. And especially because that wasn't really the original intention. No, no, it certainly wasn't. But I've kept to my word with Richard, and he's got the most beautiful Casper up there, so he's happy. And I think the last thing that was rather exciting, when I was a little girl, my father taught me to save some money.
Starting point is 00:26:35 So he'd give me 6p and I had to put 3p on one side and 3p to give away and 3p to save. And when I was out there a few months, three weeks ago, I went to the local bank and I said, look, have you got a better book that my girls can have so they save their money? And he said, yes. So I went up and I said, I've got a savings book for you girls. And they first of all said, oh, no, obviously they put their money under them to give it to granny or something. And I've just heard that one girl's got a bank book and and she's starting to save, and the others are going to cash on. So they're very little.
Starting point is 00:27:11 They only have sort of 20 dirhams or something, but it's a start. Yeah. Is there education in that part of where they live? No, they leave school at 13. Wow. So they can't write, or they certainly can't speak English or anything like that. Right. Is there even an opportunity to do that? Yeah, I've got teachers. I've got a teacher who goes and teaching them English. Right. Because it seems like, I guess, there are different vulnerabilities.
Starting point is 00:27:40 One is poverty and then education, you know, and there's money as a problem and just the education to be able to understand or to create the skill set or the knowledge to do different things. It's amazing. The intelligence is there, the fact that I'm educated as such. For instance, we've sent up somebody to teach them to make their own clothes, and they have to use a ruler, and they have to work out, so he has to show them on the ruler the measurements, and they're now starting to make their own clothes,
Starting point is 00:28:17 and they're, of course, thrilled with that. So they can. They've got the intelligence. It's just a matter of teaching. Right, yeah, and access to people who will come in and help. Yeah they can. They've got the intelligence. Just a matter of teaching. Right. Yeah. And access to people who will come in and help. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Yeah. And provide the instruction. Yeah. We've got a lot of teachers. CASBA also, when I think about other things that you've been a part of breathing life into, there's two other words that come rock the CASBA. Yes. So you've also created a foundation.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Yeah. The Eve Branson Foundation. And one of the big things that you do is this giant fundraising thing. But tell me more about just what the foundation is about. Why does it exist? What are you trying to accomplish? Well, we've got more than one village. We've got now, every time I find a village that has nothing, it's got to be completely,
Starting point is 00:29:03 they have no health at all, no electricity, no water, no gas. So according to how much money I can be given or made, I take on yet another village. But very often we then have to dig a well, we have to put electricity in for them. So it all takes money. So I have to do funny things to make money. And my next funny thing, do you want to hear what my next funny thing is?
Starting point is 00:29:31 Of course, of course. I suddenly say to Richard, Richard, I'm going to run a polo. I'm going to make money out of polo. So he says, oh, you can't do that. You can't possibly do that.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Anyhow, so I said to him, and last year... Which,, oh, you can't do that. You can't possibly do that. So I said two, and last year... Which, again, when you can't means just watch me. Definitely. So then last year, I got a team, just only the other two people and myself, and we got in touch with all the polo people, and we put on a polo match. We didn't make a lot of money, but we didn't lose money. That was last year. And this year we are doing it much bigger at Easter. So the goal of the foundation now
Starting point is 00:30:11 is to just serve more and more villages at this point. Well, yes, but even each village costs quite a lot of money to run because you've got to get the teachers, you've got to get transport there because there's no transport out there at all. And there's a lot of expense. I used to get quite a bit of money from Los Angeles. They used to put on a wonderful man, Tim Suris.
Starting point is 00:30:38 He used to put on a huge ball for me once a year, and that kept me going. But he had to go back to train for something. And suddenly there was no more money coming in. And so this is why I couldn't think how to make any money. And so stupidly, I decided to make it through polo. And that's my hope. So I'm really hoping to make some money at Easter with this polar match. Yeah. Do you have in your mind sort of the ultimate goal of this or is it just to every day be able to serve more people? Well, you get very fond of these girls and they are wonderful, wonderful people. I mean, the welcome I get when I go out there is worth every minute of all the work and the worry you've got. And they're unaware of the fact that it takes a lot of money to get them sitting
Starting point is 00:31:31 around that table and learning. But if they start saving, I don't mind. And they are now. So this was to me the most exciting thing because they're very shy for instance there's one girl with a squint and it's rarely she looks doesn't look very attractive with a squint and I managed to find a doctor who said now look if you get her to come to me I'll cure her squint and she's too shy she won't do it she just won't do it you see you're up against that type of thing, because they've never left the village, and they're never done it. You know, they are completely virgins.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Do any of them dream of leaving, or is this just the world that they like and know? Well, at the moment, what we are doing is, if they learn, because we teach them English, they have once a week. If they show signs of really learning their English, we try them out at the CASBA to learn to make the beds or do some very simple job there. And if they prove good, we're good at that. And then we take them on.
Starting point is 00:32:44 We're going to start employing them. This is all early days, but this will be wonderful. We've talked a little bit about, a lot about you and a little bit about Richard. You have two early kids who have their own talents. Yeah, yeah. One of them an artist. Tell me a little bit about that. Well, my eldest is Lindy, and she's a talented artist.
Starting point is 00:33:10 She now is sculpting heads and whatever she is. She can do pottery. She can do anything to do with art. She's really, really good at it. But the next one, which is about six years younger, Vanessa, she's an entrepreneur. I mean, she also now runs her own hotel in Marrakesh and runs a huge art festival every year, which the King's helping her over that now. So it's quite exciting what they're doing. So clearly they take after you.
Starting point is 00:33:44 No, I don't know about it. Well, because your husband was a barrister for a very long time. Yes clearly they take after you. No, no, not in a bad way. Well, because your husband was a barrister for a very long time. Yes, yes, he was. And you were the adventure entrepreneur. Yeah, well. There's a spirit that was handed down. He kept us down to life.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Right. I mean, it's so interesting to see that. One of Richard's newest or latest quests is space. And, of course, he named the first ship. He rang me up and he said, Mom, oh, God, what's coming now? He said, do you mind if I call the mothership Eve? So I said, no, I suppose not.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I'm okay as long as I can go up in her. And so I think, I hope I'm going to go up in my spaceship. Which would be pretty incredible. Is there any more news or information on that? There is definitely. It's going to be, I think, at the end of this year now. So it's coming on. That would be incredible.
Starting point is 00:34:40 So I take up my astronauts and off we go. As long as I press the knob at the right time and not get into a spin. Right. Well, just forget about the glider incident from the past. I think I best do that. I've been so enjoyable speaking to you. So the name of this project is called The Good Life Project. So if I offer that phrase up to you, to live a good life, what does it mean to you to live a good life? What is that for you?
Starting point is 00:35:11 My life's pretty good as it is. As long as you keep fit and healthy. I think it's a wonderful life. I mean, I can't fault it. But it's all a matter of health, really. And friends and being constructive. You must be constructive every minute of the day and night, even if it's sewing or knitting or embroidery or learning a language. As long as you've got something constructive to do, then you're happy, really happy. Beautiful. So that's my good life. I love it. Thank you so much. I really enjoyed the conversation. Okay, lovely. If you're looking for flexible workouts, We'll see you next time. new routines, new locations. What matters is that you have something there to adapt with you,
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