Green Light with Chris Long - 49ers Eliminate Eagles, Josh Allen Advances & Caleb Williams' Comeback | NFL Wild Card Reactions

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

NFL Wild Card Weekend is in the books (nearly) and the fellas break all the action down. Saturday's games were all time with Bryce Young and the Panthers giving Matthew Stafford and the LA Rams fits all day. Then Caleb Williams and the Bears executed yet another 4th quarter comeback against the Green Bay Packers. Sunday saw Josh Allen and the Bills move on over the Jaguars, Brock Purdy and the 49ers eliminate Jalen Hurts, AJ Brown and the Eagles, and Mike Vrabel and the Patriots send Jim Harbaugh and the Chargers packing. Want to find out why everything fell the way it did and which teams have the advantage heading into the Divisional round? Tune in. (00:00:00) - NFL Wild Card Reactions (00:07:35) - Best & Worst Flights (00:17:20) - LA Rams Beat Carolina Panthers (00:31:30) - Chicago Bears Beat Green Bay Packers (00:51:30) - LA Rams at Chicago Bears Divisional Lookahead (01:02:25) - San Francisco 49ers Beat Philadelphia Eagles (01:30:00) - San Francisco 49ers at Seattle Seahawks Divisional Lookahead (01:30:30) - Lil Duval Talks Jacksonville Jaguars (01:41:00) - Buffalo Bills Beat Jacksonville Jaguars (02:06:45) - Buffalo Bills at Denver Broncos Divisional Lookahead (02:19:20) - New England Patriots Beat LA Chargers (02:46:25) - Locals Landline Presented By Zone (02:52:30) - BetMGM Moments (03:23:30) - Houston Texans vs Pittsburgh Steelers Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Also, check out our paddling partners at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Appomattox River Company ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. Green Light's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, where you can catch all the latest GL action: If you want some Black Friday merch, check out our sale:https://greenlightpodcast.shop/?fbclid=PAZnRzaAOR1RFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA8xMjQwMjQ1NzQyODc0MTQAAad3Jup6i1N2qH77pK8eUeSbKt2Y0OXMldIw1dRTq_xDRuY3Ctp99Qj4pfyGAw_aem_w9tp_XwGL-ZptFIHvlrM1g Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Robert Sala is coaching himself, is coaching himself back into a head coach's job. He's about to get a bag. Getting a bag. Kevin Petulow, Mr. IQ is too low, I've got to, Cio. And that is goo. He does have to go. Not wrong, Rick. Rick, thanks for the call, man.

It's a tough draw for the Jags because they played that man. You know who that man is? It's Josh Allen. I ain't on front. Josh Allen made me a believer this week yesterday. That boy the truth A lot of wild card action for you And there's still more to come tonight

Super wild card weekend Extending into Extending into your Monday evening We will not be live streaming that That tonight I'm going to take that time to watch with my family And we're going to pray That I don't have to leave them

For a period of six to eight months And walk across the country I was thinking about it You probably do it quicker than six or eight months you're the fastest fucking walker that's true ever that's true like just in regular situations you walk very very fast i'm a fast walker william hayes likes to remind me of that when he whenever he comes in touch look at this motherfucker but then i read a article that it's um it's like unfortunately it's like a longevity thing so i'm here for a long time it's good yeah well

i know a guy who ran across america in 79 days no way 79 days he's wearing a 15 pound weight vest as well really oh yeah but did in 79 days so walking back in paris wait wait wait like what do you mean don't tell that's my family around america across america across across yeah that's crazy um well i hope that doesn't happen that's just where i am tonight like it kind of feels like we're gonna it's gonna get close i would like for it to get close at least you guys were saying that last night yeah i don't appreciate that i understand it'd probably be good for the show. No, but I don't know how you chose.

I don't know if it's fate. Why it's the Steelers? No, I don't know if it's fate or what it is, but I don't know how you chose. You show me your two-year-olds bracket, and she had Pittsburgh going pretty far. I know. I don't know how that was chosen. I don't know that she knows about that whole thing, because she was bummed. I left the house today.

What if I was like, hey, I'll see you when you're three. You do. You stand to gain hokas for life, as Nate pointed out. No question. That would be an awesome. Whatever happens, we're going to be okay. Bo's in studio today. Hello.

Right here, as always. No one's in front of a green screen. Oh, let's go. Cowboys running around doing something in Tanner and Aden. Aden's here too, and Charlie's in the back. It's just a fucking... The gang's all here. Sausage Fest in here.

Have we ever had this whole gang here? No, I don't think so. I don't think so. Look at that. Look at us, guys. Wildcar weekend is exhausting. It's a lot of football, but it's a lot of fun. I thought we're going to start with Saturday in a second

because we're just going to do this thing chronologically. It's pretty interesting. It's pretty interesting who's left. Like, you know, like who had this on their bingo card? Not a... I mean, a lot of the teams, yeah. Like, Rams, I feel like we all kind of thought the Rams would be here. I thought the Packers would be here last stuff.

Yeah. The AFC has just been such a fucking crap shoot, man. I don't know, man. That's been the hardest to predict. It's, we said, hey, defense is the currency and all that stuff. But it feels like we are like an upset away, maybe an upset or two away. And the bills aren't even dogs in Denver. But if the bills beat Denver and if these are all big if,

if San Francisco beat Seattle, then it's like, like the game in, we're going to talk about the game in Chicago this weekend, whether not factoring in and we'll see, I mean, whether's inevitably going to factor in, it might take 40 points to win that fucking game. Yeah. So, I mean, like, if you like points, you probably like these playoffs. And you got the NFL really won this weekend because you had every game come down to, except for Sunday night, or was that Sunday yesterday? Except for Sunday night, it came down to the last drive.

Every game. Roger Goodell. is just wildcard weekend playoff weekend one for one bro you're one for you're one for one and honestly hey college football playoffs starting to be pretty good i know sig went belt-to-ass on dan landing the other day and you know more often than not you get the blowouts in that tournament but you've had some good football games and i think hopefully it's not a good football game um a week from today i would love to see indiana just wipe the floor with miami really i don't just really like sig i like i like I like sick too, man, but the, it's just so hard as a Wisconsin badger to like root for that team.

Like, I think if it wasn't, if he wasn't an Indiana Hoosier, I'd be rooting for them nonstop. But like, dude, we used to beat the fuck out of them. Like, we beat them 83 to 20. It'd be like what I was watching. They were so bad. It'd be like us watching Duke win a national championship. No, but Duke is good, though. Well, Ruben Bain is my, you know what I mean?

Indiana's good. Rubin Bain is my second cousin. I know, he's your second cousin. I got a, I got a rule for, I got a rule for family. You got to. Have you guys spoken yet before? in this game? No, I haven't. Like, I don't, I don't want to just pop it. You should hit him up. You should hit him up and be like, hey, nice to meet you. I'm your second cousin.

He knows who I am. Feel like you owe me something. It's funny enough that he was at, he was at the 48-0. He was a baby. That's crazy. With his whole family watching me at UVA, us at UVA. That's crazy. At that game because that's where his dad went and that's where he's from. So 48-0-0-0. What year was at 0-7? Yeah. And one of the best pass rushers, collegiate pass rushers on the planet, he's drawing comps to all types of studs. He's going to be a great pro. He was a fucking baby. He was an infant when we were playing college football. He was a baby. Baby, bro. We're getting old. We're getting old. Right. You know what's not getting old is giving out best flights and worse flights. Where do we start? Who wants to start? What a dog of the day? Oh, a dog of the day.

Dog of the day? Sure. It was a dog of the day. Peep this dog of the day. Sick him. So this dog, this is in West Virginia. This dog right here learned how to sneak out of its own cage and then open the door to where it was being held and escape. No, no, no, no.

Escaped. It's a good dog. Just check this out. Watch this dog. Bro. Oh, is that the lock? Oh, I can't get out. I can't get out.

It's always a dog. dog holders. No way. That dog comes in the studio. It's raising the IQ of everyone. A lot of dogs this weekend won outright. Yeah. So this is the year of the dog.

Representative of what we saw in the NFL. Be terrified if I see that dog. That's a good boy right there. It's only people with dogs that can look at a dog and just assume it's a good boy. Like how to have you? Not if you have Willie. It's literally. It's locked up.

It's locked up. It's probably not. a good boy right you see willie on the bottom right of your screen good boys until proven not good boys good boys bad owners yeah all right all right let's um best flight worst flight okay who starts you start oh i'll start i'll start i guess it's the buffalo bills you know that was a that was a legacy game for Josh Allen. If he doesn't win it, they're going to have his fucking head on a stake at ESPN. Dudes were camped out. They couldn't wait. Shame. They couldn't wait. And, you know, I think sometimes I get a little hyperbolic because that's the nature of the business,

but the guy's incredible. And it took everything beating that Jags team. It's a very good team. It's a very good team, very physical team. They majored everything, and that had to be a sweet flight. They had to be a sweet flight. I'm not, what's he doing? I just cut to him. Yeah, you cut to him? That's a good cut. I'm not even going to do it. I'm not going to do it. It was just obviously clearly the best flight.

Probably clearly the best flight. I got another good one. Okay. Unless you want to keep on this victory lap here. But I'm going to go with Rams, you know. Kind of a little bit of a nail bit of a nail biter against Carolina, but they lost there previously, flying back to

the West Coast, back to their comfort zone. Hot shower. Yeah, hot shower, just in. Pissing rain. Fucking, yeah. Long flight celebrate a little bit. That's one, you know, Saturday, maybe an extra day off, that kind of thing. Yeah.

33% of the chat thinks I will be walking across America. I want you all to go put your mortgage on the Steelers winning the Super Bowl if you're so confident in that. This would be an amazing clip if they did win and you put that in front of it, what you just said. Best flight. I'm going with AJ Brown getting the fuck out of Philadelphia. He's gone. Left the locker room without talking to the media

and whatever flight he is getting on for the offseason, I guarantee you he is going to be happy. And I'm sure it'll be for him the best flight probably up the year, especially how that game went and whatever that was on the sideline and just all, I can just imagine his social media

and just everything around it right now is just like, let me just get as far away. People sending him books on how to leave Philadelphia. That was bad. That was bad, but he wasn't the only one. We'll get to that. I mean, that was bad.

And I got some shit. because well i mean you know you got to wait sometimes to digest it to unload the truth sometimes you know people say you can't tell the truth during the season because that's you know you're hating or you're doing this that and the third we'll talk about that in a little bit want the truth i don't know if you can we only have room for one hater on the show chris who yeah i know right there's no hate today i'm not hating on anybody i'm just telling the truth i'm calling

balls and strikes bro you bro you it the biggest haters on this show low key is between Bo Allen and Nolan Mert. Oh, come on. Like, it is Nolan Mert. He just knows how to do it the right way, and it's just a lot quieter than everyone else's hate. You're just talking about. No one was just giving you some shit.

I love you. That's crazy talk. All right, worst flight. Okay. Worst flight. Look at how they're all ganging up on Nate. Hey, worst flight, uh,

worst flight. I give it to Justin Herbert. You know, I, I can't defend him after that game. I can't, you know, everybody at the adult table, as I put it, we're all like, now we've got to whisper. People got to go underground and be, like, we're like an opposition party now. If you're like a Justin Herbert truth, you got to have like a fucking secret handshake or something. It's fucking midnight. You got to fly all the way back to L.A.

You're sitting there. I mean, you got hit a million times. I'm not absolving him. of any of it because we will talk about that game as well, but that, that charges flight had to be brutal. You had to hear a pin drop. Yeah.

So what is, what is, um, Harbaugh say he likes to watch on the plane? He, he used to talk about watching the movies on the plane. Watch some goofy ass- What movie did he watch on the way back last night?

Um, just something like, something about a tough decision where you have to fire your friend. I'm saying mission impossible. Save him private. Are you? Final. Maybe.

Maybe. it's funny you say that i'm a piggyback my worst flight was going to be the entire um chargers o line yeah it's bad um just for one just flying across the country for the playoffs and scoring three points is fucking terrible though i i just like yeah and and that's terrible it's just bad and then just the age of social media just being any of those o' linemen on that long gas flight if you have Wi-Fi just to like have your mentions just blowing up just blowing up with just hey you guys are getting your fucking QB killed like you guys are trash like how do we have the worst and then the PFF stuff is just like how does the chargers have like from PFF standards

the top worst linemen yeah when it comes to ranks like for the NFL and they're out there Some of them aren't even supposed to be out there. And we're going to talk about there is nuance to this thing. But I want to get out in front of this. There's just no way I'm going to say, hey, there's nothing Justin could do because there were things he could do. Now, was it going to be impossible? Nearly impossible? Sure.

But you had to make the plays that were there to be made on the field. And we will talk about that in a minute when we get to that game. I'm not going to kick-glove the guy. And I'm not going to be the guy that's been waiting all year to say, oh, the guy's a piece of shit. he can't play quarterback. But the truth is, if you want to defend a quarterback like that, it's a tough day to do it after you miss the few but available opportunities that you had to make plays.

Listen, Drake May didn't have to play, you know, lights out to win that game. It wasn't a game you had to score 30 points to win. There were some throws to be made. He couldn't make him, but he was certainly under siege. And we will talk about Greg Roman and the issue they have there with the offensive coordinator because it's past time. Yeah. Okay, so.

I got a worse flight. Worst flight. Worst flight. It's a short flight, but it's probably a pretty bad one. Matliflor, after the Packers just fucking tricked that game off against the Bears. You know, you're flying back to Green Bay. You get kind of snubbed a little bit, you know, with the whole handshake thing with him and Ben Johnson. There's clearly, you know, there is a little bit of, I don't know, competition there, a little rivalry, whatever you want to call it.

But that's kind of been a little bit of a media narrative. and then you get on that flight and you fly back to, you know, Appleton, Wisconsin, and the whole time just thinking about how you fuck that game up and pissed away a big lead. And now you're watching Ben Johnson give you a firm handshake and then sprinting away from you to celebrate with his teammates. No question. I was really impressed with this video not making it to the, you know, mainstream. Yeah, this is crazy. Not a lot of people saw this.

I couldn't believe that this is real life. Wow, Ben Johnson with the right hook. Just laid him both out in the celebration. Perfect. Perfect kick to the chest. Was it a kick to the jaw. Oh, God, he got a jaw. Straight to the jaw. Sweet chin music.

And then that Packer's assistant has to keep his guard up. You know, you just part your head coach get kicked in the face. But you have to have your guard up. The best thing about these videos. Is that some people in the chat believe this happened? No. Is that, is that I feel like both of them, both of those coaches seeing the video. And I can see the Bears coach just like,

dying laughing about it. And then the Packers coach being like, fuck this bullshit. Yeah. Like, I'll fuck him up. Yeah. Like, what is this? This isn't realistic.

I would definitely kick his at. No, I would, I don't know. I don't know. He's kind of yoked up, dude. He's taking a shirt out for a reason, you know? Yeah, he's putting that work. I'll be like, I'll be like, hey, chat, GPT, reverse this fucking video.

Yeah. Somebody of the chat said, Hey, Grock, is this real? Because that's what a lot of people, That's how a lot of people live their lives now. Fuck, Grock. Grock be wrong as fuck. Grock.

I would punch Grock in the face if I ever said. Right? He'd be loud and wrong. I would Kyrie Irving Grock. Oh, my God. Supposedly they just released. Can you pull the Kyrie Irving video up where he assaulted the robot? Yes.

So those robots, supposedly they just released 300 of them in Sam Fran where we're going to be at. Oh, boy. For an experiment to see how the people, the public react to them. and they're just those little things that Kyrie kicked over they're just walking around. We're going to, yeah, we're going to Palantir country, bro.

We're going to be in, in AI surveillance land. Look at this shit. This is what Kyrie Irving thinks of, I got mixed about Kyrie Irving, but this is probably my favorite thing he's ever done. Can I push it? Ah!

The way he wound up. The camera guy. getting right in the face trying to help the robot up nice helping the robot up i didn't mean do that oh my god okay all right all right so with that in mind let's start Saturday shall we um Rams Panthers and we got an absolute classic me and facts watched it um at the bar um and I'm getting old man one night out really it really spent me this weekend dude you were out even later. Hell yeah.

You said you had a martini at 2 a.m. Lighty martini at 2.15 a yeah. I was in REM stage. I got out of there as soon as the pack collapsed. Okay. Rams Panthers. So if you're a Rams fan, you come out of this game, it is case in point why you trust Matthew Stafford.

It's why you think he's an MVP. It's you give him the ball last. He's going to deliver it. it's the it's the magic of Sean McVeigh it's the hey we're going to Mumpfield we're going to fucking Colby Parkinson with the catch of the year right thus far for for the Rams like putting them up in this game obviously closing it out you know with three three four plays consecutively to end the game but I thought the story this game was you know the Rams playoff experience their resilience that's the word right now resiliency um

their ability to take punches. You saw a couple quarterbacks and two of the best of them this weekend. Matt Stafford and Josh Allen, I believe Stafford had the ball down in multiple points in this fourth quarter or late in the third into the fourth. Two drives they had to answer. And Bryce Young is going right up and down the field

and doing the same thing, which I think is if you're a Carolina fan, you come out of this game, you say, hey, even if you were skeptical of the guy, he certainly earned that option with a performance like this the way people wait playoff performances listen I got no problem if you want to hold

I've been hyping Justin Herbert up all year if you want to hold the playoffs against him that's perfectly fine that's your prerogative and I'm going to have to sit on my hands until the next time he gets in the playoffs and say well I can't really argue with you on the playoff thing no matter how hard the road was right and all the factors that mitigate

what happened Bryce put them in position to win this game. And that's a season veteran team. Now the defense, as good as Chris Shula is, and as good as the front is, the back end is really lacking. And I think that's what you're coming out of the game. If you're a Rams fan going into the Chicago game,

we'll talk about that game in a little bit. You lose a Kellogg Witherspoon. I think that's huge. I mean, he's your big corner. And coincidentally, you're playing a team, like Chicago has got some big pass catchers. That matters. I didn't think Lake was great in his return to action. I think they've kind of duct tape it a little bit with the guys in the back end.

But they have the horses offensively, as you can see, to win a game 34-31. And it's crazy to me because in the first game, all we said was, hey, Carolina, fun story, got the win against this Rams team, and they did it by forcing turnovers and confronts. converting on fourth down. They really didn't do that in this game. You know, certainly there's a block punt, right? And that was huge. And Rams special teams have been an issue all year long. But they limited the run game. Part of that was, I think Carolina said, hey, we're going to let this guy, let's go see if he can win the fucking game. Let's let Bryce cook a little bit. And he did. The third and three to Coker in the corner of the end zone, he throws that ball when he's,

he's not even out of his break yet. So those are the types of things you want to see. I think Carolina's a year ahead. That building hadn't been in that position since Cam Newton was there. You could feel it. It's an awesome atmosphere. Only critique of the Panthers is you should have wore silver pants. But I thought they had a lot to be proud of.

But the Rams, man, it's the veteran kind of we've been there before mindset, having to go on the road, being pissed off, finishing the season in kind of a fucked up way where Cardinals made you sweat more than you wanted to. You lose the game in Atlanta. And now, honestly, that whole thing's going to, if they don't get to the Super Bowl, it's going to come back to bite them because two years in a row,

you're going to have to play in the divisional round and possibly have to do it in weather, where Stafford's not great. You saw him get his hand hit. I don't know if that's, and, you know, I could hear everybody who's watching the game. They made such a big deal out of that, man. I don't think that was anything.

I mean, listen, Stafford's tough as fuck. He's, but he's what, like 38. He's had the back issues. He was living in a van during camp and all that good stuff. Like, I understand. It seemed like, you know, there were points during this game where he was uncharacteristically off rhythm. Like, I was surprised, especially coming out of the half, like third quarter,

fourth quarter. Especially outside the numbers. Yeah, and that's not like him, you know. So I can understand why, you know, the broadcast has shown his hand and all that shit. But it just felt to me like he was a little, the team, I guess, was a little deflated by that people. who could drop head into the half and got a little out of rhythm and kind of had some doubts creeping in and shit like that. I don't think he was actually injured. I don't, you know,

like he's been, he's played through so much shit in his career. Remember the clip of him literally tearing his shoulder out when you play for the line? Yeah. Are you injured or are you hurt? Right. And he would tell you, and he would tell you, I got my hand dang it's no big deal. Yeah. The guys on the broadcast are trying to color in what's happening. And I think Greg, who, you know, he's certainly one of the smartest in the game. I thought he did a great job that You know, he went on an incompletion streak that was about as long as any he'd ever had. Yeah. And, you know, I think with Stafford, there is a built-in kind of people are tired of.

Some of these quarterbacks are perceived to get a lot of excuses. And before the Super Bowl, you got to remember, there's a whole decade of everybody saying, guys, really good, you got to give him a chance. He's been in Detroit. And people kind of got tired of that. So whether it's Josh Allen or Stafford or any of these quarterbacks or Lamar, you're always going to have people that are fading those quarterbacks. And when you watch a game like that and the announcers are giving him an excuse,

it probably didn't sit well with a lot of people. Yeah. But when you hit your hand on that helmet, I'm just telling you. That bitch is hurting right now. That hurts. His hand is hurting right now. No question. When you graze your knuckle on someone's helmet or face mask in a game,

It's just one of those things that linger. And it's probably equivalent to like stubbing your fucking toe really bad on the corner of your bed. And it's like, it's something that it's like. Peter Griffin thing. Yeah. It's not, it's not devastating like in the moment, but it hurts and you know it happened. Well, only they know, you know, is a residual swelling or they can try. And they got a great training staff there and the whole thing.

But what was he? 11 for 26. 11 for 26. Yeah. From the point he hit that hand. No excuses. You got to, I mean, had they not won the game, I'd be chalking this up to another. Hey, as good as he's been, there are the moments.

You know, I said this last year down the stretch in the regular season, he wasn't great. You had the three-pick or couple-pick game against Atlanta. I lost track. Yep. You know, and he will miss balls sometimes, but he was, he was deadly in the middle of the field. You know, it definitely was more of a spot that he was working. And Devante Adams was, was, I'll call it Rust. You know, I think the targets for him, they weren't very efficient.

It was that whole shot and cover two and that he overthrew it a little bit. You know what I mean? And like you just kind of think to yourself like, you know, if Adams isn't coming off a hamstring injury, that's probably a, you know, a perfect ball for him. Yep. It just seems like he's, I don't know if you want to call it knocking the rust up. Like he's just getting up to speed a little bit after coming off that hamstring injury. And I don't think he was as much of a factor in the game.

I mean, he played pretty well. He had 72 yards of five catches. But I feel like he'll be more of a factor. No question. Kind of, you know, division around. And we'll talk about division around in a second. I just, I just, the Rams are going to have to clean up penalties. They had a lot of them.

What's the deal with Dotson? Because he's got to, he's got to be out there. Well, the thing that I want to kind of talk about too, Chris, is like, I wouldn't look this up because I was like, man, 31 points. Like, I like Bryce Young. I like the Panthers. I think they've quietly been a, you know, a good team. But I'm looking back. dude the Rams defense hasn't given up 31 points you know anything near that much at all like

they gave up a bunch of the lines and a loss I guess they gave up a lot to the Seahawks a couple weeks ago but it just feels like their defense lately has been a little more leaky human yeah their special teams have been a problem all year yeah defense has been low-key back-end leaky was that jirr versus bull rush we haven't seen that well well this is the week right i mean you know you talk about the the bears not to get too into the preview the bears the bears are down a tackle i mean well the panthers were down a tackle too i think they lost they lost they lost the quantity which is huge the first series without his tackle exactly yeah and and so yeah like again i think the rams are flawed defensively like you can't put them in the category of

i thought coming into the postseason obviously houston in my opinion the best defense followed by denver and philly um new england made a case last night and eight chargers up there, but I don't put the Rams defense in that category. The Rams are going to have to score to beat people. Right. Thankfully, they're built for that,

but, yeah. So anyways, and Sean McVeigh's optimistic to have Dotson on Sunday. That's big. That's definitely going to be helpful. Oh, and the Rams, if they get in trouble,

they can always put Pook on defense. No question. No question. That's the biggest play of the game. It's the biggest. It's 2420. Bro, that interception, like,

that ends the game, probably. 2420. It's going to be a pick. A pick and they would get the ball under 20. Puka turns into a DB. Bro, perfect. What you teach your DBs to do

if you're in a situation like that, if you can't get to the ball, you play through that receiver's hand and dislodge, try to dislodge his hand from the ball any way you can. And he did that perfectly. And, man, what a difference

that game would have been. Whether they still would have won or not, it would have been a whole different scenario to end in the next. That was huge. That was a huge play. So yeah, you had the Rams moving on, the Panthers going home. Listen, I think the Panthers are, you know, they're a well-coached football team. That team played above themselves this year. Obviously, we talk about the offense a lot, but I thought Avera did a really nice job. What else? My worst sheet should have been. We haven't done it yet. Oh, my bad. Oh,

it was worse flight. Okay, yeah, never mind. Save it. But I just, hats off to the Panthers. Shout out to Darren Bates, Coach Bates. He got some airtime. He got a ton of airtime. He gets airtime all the time. Can I get someone to shout out from the Panthers? Sure.

Derek Brown, man. He's a beast. I'm going to take a league while you stroke him, pause. Defense how they're better than, you know, we kind of thought. But I think he has been in an elite interior defender this season and has not getting nearly the amount of love that he should. I mean, he wasn't all pro or a pro bowl, anything like that, but like go pulling his tape from the Bucks game especially,

but there are times during this season where teams literally could not run the ball because of him. And he lines up, like, you know, as an interior defender, you've got your kind of guys who are like nose guards where they play, zero, shade, two-eye. Then you've got guys who are like three tech, and then you have like your ends, like your five techniques, your big two-gappers.

he plays all across the defensive line. He's super, super fucking good. Are you team Bryce Young? Bryce Young, prove it. Yeah, I think they extend him. I mean, actually, I think they just pick up his fifth year. You're talking about the Prince? Yeah.

I think they pick up his fifth year. Yeah. I think it's fair. I'm a huge fan, but I think it's fair to, you know, to say, and I think he's the type of guy, dude. Well, they're still building. Yeah, you can't take him away from Tet right now, because, him and Tet, like, Ted had a real good year. They got a little thing going.

And they have something. Rico. He's got more pieces. Exactly. Who's up for them? It's like Chuba Hubbard up. Like, who? I haven't got enough far.

Yeah. I guess we're getting out of our skis. I haven't gotten that far. But the one thing is, I will say, they need pass rush to round that group out. Ed Rush. I think they got two corners I really like, right? They got big physical corners. You know, if you can, I thought Scorton was really good.

Humann me yelling got some good snaps this year. I think both those guys are pieces of the puzzle. But, you know, to find that home run hitter outside would be big. Need a Batman. You need a Batman, dude, you know. So I think that... I am Batman. That's what Scorton's trying to say.

My job isn't done yet. Yeah, so we'll see. I mean, somebody said, go get Mac Jones instead of Bryce. You got to realize, man. I don't think Mac Jones looks like a couple different guys. And it's always case and point is like, you know, we talk about surroundings. and who your coach is.

You know, Kyle Shanahan is a pretty good place to Bryce Young in that office. Josh McDaniels. You know, and then when he was with our guy, Doug E.P., they didn't click and it looked totally different. So I think you're underestimating how a lot of guys would have looked in that offense. I really do think you are.

So anyways, yeah, Rams, a big win, you know, veteran playoff team win. Going on the road. Probably pissed off. They have to go on the road. and again, this is going to be a theme because we're talking about this again in a second, but Packers Bears, dude, I got to say,

hand up, I thought the Packers were going to win this game. And I still feel like... Bear down. I wasn't wrong in a weird way because they did everything but finished a fucking game. And, you know, after the game, you say a lot of... You say a lot of things about, I've never seen a Packers team like this,

or I've never seen a team like this. I've never quite seen a team like the Pac- Packers team. And then you get Packers fans that will remind you, hey, man, we see this every year. I don't know that you do. I don't know that, like, some of the things that happened to this team down the stretch are like factory of sadness bullshit, dude. Like the two Bears games alone. Yeah. This is 21 to 3. And I'm going to get, get there and give the Bears a ton of credit. Chris Long, situational specialist. Dude, it was bad, dude. It was like, I was, I was, And I really enjoyed my visit to Green Bay.

I think Matt LaFleur is a great guy. I think he's a good coach, but he is not coached his best football this season. And I did not think a lot of it is on execution of the players, right? There was a lot of execution moments where they fell short. But to lose a game like this, 21-3, we're sitting at the bar and somebody said something to the effect of, like maybe on TV, We, you know, this would be something as unprecedented as 283. And I'm sitting there like, and I'm on the Packers and I get the Mr. Crabs vision. Because I'm like, damn, I was there.

Like, I know it's possible. This is worse. This was worse than 283 in the Super Bowl? I think it, no, no, no, no. No, I'm talking about from like a game management perspective. Not the where the game was, what it was for. Yeah. 21 to 3.

Tom Brady came back. 283. Now I know Caleb Williams is a fucking stud. And we're going to do an exercise at the end of this thing where we rank the quarterbacks left in the playoffs. He's going to be up there. He's going to make some people mad where I'm going to put him. Yeah. But I just, and I don't mean making Bears fans mad. I mean making other people mad, maybe. But it's his first fucking playoff start. And it's Ben Johnson's first fucking playoff start. And what did Schaefter say about LaFleur?

They're working on a new deal. Yeah. So, I mean, Green Bay, you got Matt LaFleur next year and maybe beyond. They scheduled this meeting, you know, talk about his future ahead of the game. And then he's got to attend that meeting, presumably. And you've got to defend that bullshit. I've never seen anything like that. Yeah.

Because the quality of play down the stretch, there were so many things. you get the Bears two for six on fourth down you get multiple drops on the last drive the re-drop was a killer yeah the the Christian Watson play I haven't watched it again yet I thought he turned it down I thought he turned down the smoke with the game on the line bro well BTJ action and if you want to be the guy like you can't do that that so there's multiple plays the last drive where you know you know the Bears have basically done it again. They've come back because at this point it's not luck. This is what they do. What is it? Games now? Coming into the game, I talked about the self-fulfilling prophecy of playing the Bears now. If you get out to a lead on them, it's in your head. This is

what they do. And they did it again. It's not coincidence. There's something about the quarterback and the coach and this team that allows them to do this shit. But the fatal flaw, the Packers in this game is and it really came back to bit of me you saw it all season obviously execution not having micha parsons the defense looks you know like totally different and wyatt you know and and the cooper injury i started texting people as soon as i have it go this game's about to fucking change cooper going down but the biggest thing is if you can't run the football with the lead and you got to back like josh jacobs shame on you seriously and shame on you if you get a delay of game out of a fucking fucking timeout and shame on you if you're out of timeouts at the end of the game you get a 12

men in the huddle there were things that happened to them that weren't even their fault like the injury 10 second runoff down the stretch the team's fucking cursed you won't hear me talk about the packers again in any serious light until they stop playing like this like next year i'm not i don't know who i'm going to pick to win the north but i'm going to be it's going to you're going to be hard press to see me do it again and pick this team to win the north because it feels like this is who they are king of the north it's it's like and for packers fans to say hey we've seen this every year i mean i believe you feel this way every year but the way that game ended unbelievable and mcmannis you know so many these games come down to kicks you get iced you miss the kick

you're missing kicks it's just man like you're you're playing an outdoor fucking division man you gotta have a kicker they can knock down kicks there were so many things as 25 points in the fourth quarter yeah how'd you like to be jeffley and be like i'm riding that momentum into my fucking head coaching interviews so but that i mean that is a team thing that's a team stat in my mind you talked about their inability to run the ball like with josh jacobes it's it's honestly like their lack of commitment to actually running the ball possessing the ball and killing the clock i looked this up dude they had 38 offensive players and seven runs only in the second half that's to me a huge that's a travesty in the third quarter when they're up 21 to three

they had 11 plays and only three runs and dude he's a beast i don't know like it's just frustrating but they can't run the ball i know that's the problem but even personnel standpoint up front they're not physical enough yeah but i think you still need to just the game where the game is at like i i think you still need to be committed to it just to eat the clock you know sure Sure, but part of it is you don't want to just eat the clock playing this Chicago team because if you give them the ball back in the second half, this is the one thing they've done this year. I mean, they've done a lot of good things this year.

I thought the defense would be, here's who I really want to say, hey, hats off to, because I said this, and I quote, I said, I think the Packers win this game because I think they're like sitting, they're walking around going, we owe them one. And I think the Bears defense is exhausted. And it's reasonable to say that coming off the last two games of season when they're out there the whole fucking game. Dennis Allen in the second half of this game, turn the heat up on love a little bit.

And I don't want to say, listen, I know we do the thing with the quarterbacks in the playoffs. What's 94's name from the bear? Booker was, yeah. He's good. He's a good player. He's also lowered his head again. Yeah, he did. I thought he was going to get another one.

I was giving him some fucking leeway. Yeah. They were letting him play out there, period. He was nice. Binking. He was binkin' love long. But, dude, you got, don't tell me Jeff Hathley can't keep 25 points off the board in the fourth quarter. Dennis Allen's out there working with not too, too much personnel-wise defensively, especially when T.J. Edwards goes down. So you're both down a linebacker.

Yeah. You know, you're down C.J. Gardner Johnson. This team has survived off turnovers. You're not even turning the ball over. Yeah. And you're just not able to move the ball if you're the Packers. I thought Dennis Allen did a great job. And what I was going to say was, actually, I don't even know what I was going to say.

What I was going to say is the damn bears, they just got this hit factor about them. And so they didn't run out of gas. They actually put the pedal down in the second half as they've done all year. And it's kind of counterintuitive because you think about a guy with a great script, great game plan, great offensive coach. You'd think they would start faster. But it's been the adjustments. And also teams that get in these, they play soft cup.

They play off coverage. They let Caleb eat up, eat up the field. You got to challenge these guys more down the stretch, especially if you get a lead. That's the one thing looking ahead at the Rams game where you're like, okay, if they, if the Rams jump them, the Rams can run the ball. You know, nobody thinks the Packers were going anywhere this year, but it's a shame they don't get a playoff win because they tricked it off. The Bears deserve a lot of credit too, but if you're a Packers fan, you got to be

fucking livid with your team. You got to be livid with your team. Because it was all right there. You know one famous Packer fan that was very livid. Who? Lil Wayne? I bet he was. And the Bears players retweet and trolling him online is so great. It's so great. So I'd just say the Bears, Caleb Williams, and okay, what I was going to say is this, Jordan Love, because we're doing the quarterbacks in the playoffs thing. Every time it's QB win. it's reactionary and and I'm going to fall down somewhere in the middle on all of it and try to just call balls and strikes right I don't think this game's on Jordan love there was a period in the middle of the game where I thought he needed to manage the game better yeah ironically

he needs to be a better game manager you know we always say like when cam newton calls a guy a game manager it's like a slight and it's kind of gotten a little out of hand where he's like a drake bay is a game manager I'm like all right but I think Jordan love he's got one of the the biggest arms in football, he makes some of the best throws on the field, any given Sunday, but when it comes time to manage the game, and this is also an offensive coordinator critique, they don't do it. And the multiple grounding penalties are killers, man. You know, when he gets pressure in his face sometimes, as athletic as he is, he can kind of look like a young deer. You know, he just kind of like can't quite get his feet under him. And with the other guy,

And I think Caleb, I think Jordan loves a fucking stud, right? The other guy, you can't, he has one of the most innate talents in the national football league. He, I don't think he, he can get the ball out of bounds from anywhere. It's cringe. He can get it over the line of scrimmage, out of bounds from anywhere. It's like hard to get him to ground it. It's hard to get him to sack. His, his arms like a fucking rubber band, dude.

And his whole upper body, like his balance, his boys, his, uh, I mean, dude, Caleb Williams has. those straits where you just see him you know little glimpse of them like you're not seeing them as much as you want to but like you know the jump man throw whatever the fuck they're calling it oh my god dude like my girlfriend's asleep on the couch barely watching the game happens to like look up during that she goes oh my god i'm like yeah like even people who don't know shit about football you know like see that and are here's what else i saw and this is for people that question this with him i've never fallen for that with him yeah i i i didn't know that he'd be this good you know i i was a proponent of you know

like hey man it's not going to be that quick like you're you're not going to get there that quick yeah but it's two years and you're in the divisional round here here's what with a new staff too you know new staff which was a god sent between the years he was a fucking leader in that second half dude he was a demon on the sidelines he was on people's asses he was getting people hype Yeah. You know, he rolled his ankle. He was tough. I just, you know, all the, oh, West Coast kid can't play in the cold.

He's too soft. He paints his nails. He was fired up even in the first half. I looked when he was getting after a burden for not breaking the hell out of him. Yes. Yeah. That was great. That's leadership.

That's Tom Brady stuff. Yeah. I'm not saying he's Tom Brady. But I'll be damned if he doesn't have as much arm talent as anybody in the NFL. Agreed. He just needs to cite that fucking that scope in a little bit. You know, he wasn't consistent at, in the game, but somebody just said six PFF big time throws us the most in a playoff game

this weekend. All year. Yeah. You know, so, so to me, if you're a Chicago fan, you are a year ahead of schedule, but you don't know it because the quarterback's playing so well. And I think the coaches are doing such a good job. Dennis Allen defensively, Ben Johnson offensively. Caleb's, I had one of my buddies from Chicago who's a big Caleb doubter. And you know have yeah I've been talking I'm all year I've been telling him all year I've been telling him all year you see that throw you see that throw you see that throw we're sitting at the bar Saturday night he turned to me goes that was a nice fucking because I got to say yeah he this guy really might be special yeah and and so I'm not

one of the ground floor Caleb people um where you know his third year at USC I'm like yeah yeah tank for Caleb but his year I didn't fall for the okie dope watching him coached by Shane Waldron you know I think most people watching him saw that man if he could just cite that thing in and he's still got some sighting in to do he can be as good as anybody's league it's like him and lovelin now like love and he fucking that's he had dude he's a monster he looks so good out there he's from he's from iowa michigan michigan oh that's what college he was yeah where's he from Colorado He's from Colorado.

Idaho? No, Udaho. Idaho. That's what it is. Goldendale, Washington. He went to Gooding, Idaho, or he went to high school in Gooding, Idaho. He's from Washington. But he's from Washington.

Yeah, he's one of those guys. He's from all over. He's from all over. He was a fucking dog. How many catches he? Like, 12? But also to, you know, Jeff Halfley, man, like, you know, maybe get the tight end covered at some point. So there's, I just think.

exceptions 15 targets i think the packers it's so funny because the packers in that denver game i go back to that game a lot for a point in that at a point in that game i think we all sat back and said this is the fucking super bowl team you know you know those moments during the season where you're like that team could be the team yeah and the packers had one of those and it it was like it was half of that game and then i mean if they had laco bro micha parsons getting hurt and christian watson fucking Pat Sertang going Puma on Christian Watson, landed on his collarbone. Yeah.

I know obviously he came back and everything, but that game totally changed. And it felt like since then, this team's become a factory of sadness. Yeah. So, you know, okay, you want to keep the head coach? You're definitely going to have to make a change on special teams. Yeah.

They got to work on that O line to. The offensive line has to be pre-tooled. We get into the playoffs and you talk about how, like, it's so much more about your weaknesses and your strengths. I think that's a great point. Like getting ahead, and it felt like the Packers were going to need to jump the bears to be an advantageous spot in this game. But they couldn't maintain that league because they can't run the ball.

And that group, they've invested a lot of capital there. Jordan Morgan was a first round pick. Belton was a second round pick. So it's kind of like that interior group. They lost Elkin Jenkins during the season. That interior group, there's a lot of regression there this season. And they got to figure that out. going to the next year if they want to be able to run the ball you cannot win in the playoffs if you

just if you just can't up front right it's really hard to do that yep it's really hard to do that i'm trying to think of a team that you trust that you know like if you have it a lead a if you're in short yardage you know how deep is lafleur's bagged on the on the third and twos and the fourth and twos you know not being able to run the football um and so we're going to talk about i mean like jordan love is not one and three in the playoffs. But when I look at Jordan Love, I think he's better than that. Yeah. And I looked at that game and I still think he's better than that.

And honestly, he was good. He was good in this game. The middle of the game, though, and part of this is on the play colors and part of it is on everything we've discussed with the front and with the run game. Part of it is managing the game for him. It is the last piece is getting in sync, you know, when you're not pedal to the metal, right? you know and obviously one of the biggest injuries that we haven't even talked about them is uh tucker craft yeah changed their whole deal offensively but the the the thing that was

going to sink them in this playoffs they got no pass rush and the secondary the corners we talked about them all year season basically ends on was the slot wheel he just ran right past valentine so uh again bears it was the uh we were looked at this for a while it was like a screen yeah screening go kind of it was actually the same exact kind of the same exact kind of we'll get to it but the um kinkade scored on kink it was a good it was a pile on with it where lloyd's passing it off gets caught with his head turn you're just putting a guy in such a bind you know i mean like you got to make a decision you better be right yeah if you're the db there uh i have a question for you though chris yeah ben jonson because obviously like you know we see all the

creativity you know we saw fucking o lineman run a skinny post which i kind of loves that's masturbatory a little bit yeah i felt that way um but it did seem like it seems like in the beginning of the games he's almost trying to like do too much or like he's really reaching and and the reason i'm saying that is because in this game they went forward on fourth down uh four times in the second quarter i think he you know probably got the sense that it's going to be a shootout if didn't have the most confidence in his defense you know what i mean had more confidence in his offense and so he's going for it but you see these scenarios where like like this was our hemingway game like i'm watching this game i'm like what the fuck

I'm okay with, and this isn't revisionist history. It was like during the second half of the game, we were watching, and Kev, our buddy was like, why is he going, why isn't he kicking field goals? Or maybe it was you saying it. I was saying that. And I was saying to myself, like, because your defense can't get stops. And I thought, you know, holding the ball for eight minutes to start the game, that's how they want to play this game coming up, you know, because if they can control the clock a little bit,

you know, you hope that maybe you can force a turnover to, that's kind of what they've lived off on defense. I do think, though, the challenge from as bad as the Rams have been from like a details standpoint, like they have not been on the details. This is a real pro football outfit coming in with one of the best coaches on the planet. And, you know, they have their issues in the secondary and that sort of thing. Yeah. But they're going to, they're not going to go through these lulls.

You know, Stafford did this. It's a different kind of lull, though. Like, their lull is not making plays, not Rams. They're not, like, turning the fuck over the ball. So this is going to be a hell of a football game. And, again, we're looking ahead to this game. We know the weather yet? I looked at it.

It was a chance of snow, 40 degrees. Fuck, yeah. You know, you might get some weather, which, which, it's so funny, this kid from the West Coast. Yeah. Kind of becoming, you know, the talk of the town in Chicago. Mm-hmm. And he's doing it in these, in these, in these bad.

bad weather games late in the season. And it's something to see, man. And so, you know, Stafford coming in, he's got to be really on his game. Maybe it's the wrong game is going to be big. Maybe it shifted. Aaron Rogers was the West Coast quarterback, and then he went to Green Bay. Yeah. And became a legend in the snow making passes and big plays.

Maybe Caleb is a good one. I don't know that where you're from really matters. You know. People always try to, they try to do that. Like they say when guys are from Florida, they can't play in the cold. I don't know, dude. I'm from Minnesota. I play for the box, and I was like, holy fuck. Exactly. It's too hot for me, bro. It's real feel.

That's on every, like, everyone's different. And I guess you can, like, it's crazy to say that weather doesn't affect people and it's that it's a mental thing. Because sometimes it's not. It can get cold enough or hot enough where it's not all mental. Some of it is physical. And you sometimes have to get used to playing in it. And when you're on a team like Chicago or Green Bay or Buffalo, like you kind of get used to practice him in knowing how to get your body right. That's what I think is.

It's like you know your routine and how it changes when it's fucking cold. Hey, guys, just Vass up. Philip went to D'Matha. So originally. He's from over here. He is. But even so, your Rogers example is a perfect one. I don't think it's a big deal.

Like I really think it's about where guys play and practice more. Yeah. Like one of my worries in the Buffalo game was, hey, the humidity down there. These guys are out there fucking practicing orchamping up. Yeah. And you can see some guys were cooked a little bit. They were tired. Yeah.

So, you know, I think one of the biggest, I think one of the biggest issues this week that we're going to circle, there's one injury on both sides of the ball. We're going to talk about this game coming up more in the preview show. But I think the tackle issue for the bears and the corner issue for the Rams. You know, I talked about Witherspoon, but Ozzy had to leave the game, right? He's done. He's done. So, you know, and Benedict would be in there. Luckily, Benedict's played.

Yep. And luckily, Caleb's the guy that can get out of trouble. And, you know, in his ability, here's another thing. That field late in the season and into the playoffs is a little bit of a tough surface. Yeah. So you talk about. You've got to tell me about it. Right.

That surface took my fucking ACL. Yeah. Too much stuff is the crazier thing about it is, and this will probably be a story, like, there might be an event going on on that field during this week. No question. Like where, like, in your head, you'll be like, that's crazy talk. That's even a possibility. But right now, I think that field is owned by the public. It's owned by Chicago.

It's like they're parks and wrecks. Like, I think the soldier field is like part of that out there. So if someone really realistically wanted to rent it for an event or big concert, that can happen. And that happens throughout the year. And then you have a couple of college games that are played in there on a Saturday, turn around the field for Sunday, and you get to week 1920, and you see the results. So mixed in with all the weather. So when you think about weather, here's another guy, and we're going to get into this game in a second.

You know, Fireball California, I don't know how warm or cold it is. out there, but it's California, right? That's where Josh is from. You talk about a guy who's had to play in inclement whether his whole career in Buffalo. You know, you brought up Aaron Rogers. I bet you if you went down the list, although I do think there probably is some credence to like, hey, Southern people don't like the cold and shit. The quarterback thing, I bet is more of a mixed bag than you think. You know, I bet there's some guys that, I mean, Brett Farr's from Mississippi. He's from fucking Mississippi. You know, he played his whole career. in Green Bay. I do think it's about, you know, issues like hand size, you know, they can definitely

factor into holding on to wet football, you know, gripping a football in the cold where it's a little bit slippery, more slippery. But yeah, I think this weekend's going to be huge. And Matt Stafford's, you know, went a long way. It didn't rain as hard as we thought it was going to rain Saturday, which I think it was a blessing for Matt, because in all these games, we remind people that he's not as throwing a wet football or in the cold. This weekend's weather's going to be interesting. One more injury to look before in that game, too, is T.J. Edwards is going to be after the postseason, too.

The backup linebacker in there. You know how the Rams like to work that middle of the field. A tight-end game. Tight-end game's huge. I mean, you talk about a team that Puka, that sits in 12 and 13. Here's another thing is like, if you're downbackers, you're going to have to play light.

You know, you're going to have to play light some. You're not going to put that third backer on the field. So Bears run game out of nickel. Well, I'm talking about the Rams run game. Right. I mean, bears might not be able to play base against 12 and 13. So they're going to run fucking all of their McVeigh, wide zone, duo, wide zone, duo, duo deep shot, you know what I mean?

Play action. One of your something interesting I read too is Sean McVit's 15th playoff game, this upcoming one, 15 different opponents. Oh, really? Yeah. That's crazy. It's like a scoreagami of the schedule. They haven't, supposedly McVeigh and the Rams haven't been great in Chicago.

I only remember one of those games, I think. That was the Vic Fangio. It was one of the Vic Fangio. It was a Vic Fangio game in like 17 or 18, and it was pretty low scoring. But I saw that something like 0 and 2 is a very small sample size, and some of those things are kind of dumb. These two teams, between these two teams, which wide receiving core do you like going up against the opposing secondary?

There's Adunzei more in burden against the Rams secondary or Puka, Devante. Well, it's interesting because when I think about the Rams, I mean, they have better receivers, right? But I think about the scramble drill. Scramble drill against Caleb Williams, these guys have to be really, really good. Luckily, they're not going to play man all day, but they have to be really good with their eyes. And they've got to be good plastering down the field. And the rushers factor into this whole thing as much than anything. Like rushing smart, rushing with power, but not getting too heavy, right?

Because Caleb will. Especially with the injuries to the Bears all line. Yep. Yeah. I think that I'm probably more confident in the Rams receivers to produce just because of the strength of the Rams pass rush as well. I think they can kind of cover up some of the inconsistencies in the back. That's right. You know what I mean?

Yeah. But they have to rush smart, man. Those dudes are aggressive. Like, me interviewed Byron Young. Remember he was talking about like, beat me there, beat me there? It can't be a game where it's just about, hey. You got a page rush. Oh, hey, we're seeing, we're seeing red because we got a backup tackle or that sort of thing.

You really have to, you have to rush as a team. Rush them smart, yeah. You have to rush as a team. The thing that's so impressed about Caleb, man, I know we've been glazing him, as I say in the chat. He just won his first playoff game, all right? Let's fucking glaze him. But he can roll out to his left, too. No, yeah.

Like, you know, like some guys. It's another reason, though, that the fucking, when we talk. about that you know people think i'm taking a shot at jared golf when i say this i think lions fans who god you hate us we're going to catch a stray here no i like jared golf but the playbook is like two x you know it's with with with caleb for ben johnson i mean the i just play so much i i put so much on a quarterback's ability to make off platform throws in today's NFL and that seems obvious but it's not just about how fast the guys is also how the quarterback can make an off platform throw when he's jogging or backing up or the pockets dirty like there's all types of off

platform throws Caleb can make them all the throw he made to beat um the bears the first time yeah he's got people falling into his legs yeah he's it's a he's a fucking jugs machine he can he's got every club in his bag he has every club in his bag he has every club in his That's what's so cool, though. And he put English on the, oh, what did you hit there? Like a little, I don't know, Reed, like what, a little... A little flop? One of those that got like 27 degree clubs or something.

Yeah, yeah, and you put a little movement on it, you know, a little, uh, you shoot a little fade, shoot a little fade, add some backspin, a little draw. And the old Tiger Wood video game, that's the shit that gives you a thumb, the blister. Yeah. Trying to get that extra... Show me that one more time. Trying to get that extra spin on the analog controller. Hell yeah, I know, yeah.

I remember we used to play Tiger Woods all the time. VJ. Sing. We used to play Tiger Woods all the time. That shit was awesome. We need to bring that back. Great game. And fight night.

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have packers minus one that's one and one eagles minus that's one and two bills tis that's one and two bills team total under 20 over under 20 and a half so one and three and then uh cam little over points he under he's one and four yeah one oh my god i might get back in the fucking driver's seat and yeah the only one you'd you'd miss so far is the chargers the charges the charges is blind spot i thought the guy was incredible i still think he's really good but he hadn't he can't do anything in playoffs evidently so because like fourth quarter Caleb yeah i'm trying to be like fourth quarter, Caleb, man. I can't lose this damn competition. It's all I got.

Making is 3-1 right now, though. Oh, gosh. What's he got tonight? He has the Texans team total under 20 and a half. You bitch you. You bitch you. But no, no, no, that goes in, because you just want a lot of Texans points, like 24. Yeah, I got the under 39. Yeah, yeah. And then, yeah, yeah.

Which that under, that total's gone down. I think so. I think that total's gone down. Perk Rogers tonight. Somebody said Chris cares more about beating, Makin, and Steve, then he actually does gambling. Absolutely. Currently sits at 38, the total. I can have a bad IRL. 38?

Yep. I can have a bad IRA weekend, but if my public picks are good, like, and I don't have to deal with the, you know, I'm happy. Okay. All right. So we got another game to talk about? What's this next game? Ah, man, we don't need to do all this. Oh, we don't.

Okay. We don't need to do all this. Oh, we don't. No, we're not going to do all this. We could do it all. I just want to open the show by saying, or open this show, because the show really starts now. I am not, okay, I just want people listening to this show to understand something. I love the Eagles, okay?

Love the Eagles. I'm going to be an Eagles fan my whole life because of what that organization gave me. And my favorite colors green, my kids love the Eagles. I've had some friends that continue to play there, but maybe not anymore. I don't know. Like, I just, it's hard for me to get behind a team that I don't really like. And I never liked this team offensively. Defensively, I fucking love the team.

That defense was incredible, and I'm sorry they wasted your year. But that offense, and I told you all season, now I gave out the Eagles. I can't pick the San Francisco 49ers. We started the live stream. If you're listening to me, I said, don't lay the points. whatever you do do not lay the fucking points are we shocked zero shock here

okay why is it that when you watch the bills live stream we're jumping up and down well because me and facts have like a longstanding thing coming up the game why am I just sitting there during the Eagles live stream because I kind of I'm prepared for this you feel like you're watching this or you're reading a you know a book they already know the ending to

we knew the ending to this book all season And I went back and looked today. I was on the Rich Eisen Show early this season before I didn't do it anymore because I just got too busy. Part of that was also because they kept aggregating me. And I don't like being aggregated, especially with Eagles takes. Like I ended up like I'd go on the Rich Eisen Show and then they put me on like ESPN NFL and collab. They'd be like, hey, you want to collab?

Yeah, I want to collab when the Eagles are three and one. And I'm saying like, hold your horses. Yeah, I want to collab with you. I want to broadcast this takes so a bunch of people can tell me I have CTE, which ended up being what half the fucking comments were. Because I said, this team cannot expect to go play in a Super Bowl. I don't care if you're three, four, and one if you're not consistent. Because in the playoffs, you have to win four games in a row.

And of course, people said, well, we just won four games in a row. Okay, I need you to be realistic. If you play half of a football game consistently all season long, and you lead the league in three and outs, eventually that is going to catch up to you. We said coming to this game, the magic number was 23. It ended up being,

for the Eagles, it would have been 24. They didn't hit it, and I think all bets are off now. And I think now we can really talk about this thing in a way that, and one of my least favorite parts about doing this job, honestly, one of my favorite memories

was last year getting behind that team because I believed in that team. and you know saying hey they're going to win the damn bowl it doesn't matter they're going to be win one of the best teams of the fucking century in my opinion and i stand by that this team was not that team and what i hate about the jobs sometimes is getting up here and having to fucking tap dance around the truth and i won't do that in the future i really won't um this team was bound to go either one and done or lose the second game of the playoffs. And a lot of it is obviously the offensive coordinator,

and we can talk about that. But I just want to take you through an exercise. What if I told you before the game? 49ers pressures, 24% rate, lowest in the wild card round, 2.8 seconds time to throw. I'm a pass rusher. That's an eternity. Eagles run the ball for 140 yards at wind time possession.

36 to 24. Niners run the ball for 75 yards. Purdy throws two picks. George Kittle leaves with the fucking Achilles in the second quarter. What do you say and happens in that game? Eagles fans. What do you say happens? I would think you'd say, oh, well, it sounds like we won the game.

You didn't, and that's the problem. That's the problem. Ran into Robert Sala. And both those coaches are incredible. Yeah. Robert Sala. Robert Sala is playing himself, is coaching himself back into a head coaching job.

He's not to get a bag. Getting a bag. Bro, because, like, just from that game last night, bro, like the amount of injuries and just puzzle pieces, pieces and placements that they've had to move around and do to keep that defense together. Yes. And to hold the fort.

And they might get Fred back for this game. I think it would be. No, I think it would be one more week for Fred. But it's one more closer. It's incredible. They're getting a chance. The guys that are out there playing for this defense. Now, listen, I think the young slot player stout is going to be really good.

We were early in the season. And I love Lenore. Again, I thought Mustafa, he's a fun player in the box. Like, he'll come down there and Phil. And, hey, listen, I thought one of the most impressive things about this game was the Niners are down to a nub at linebacker. They're bringing up. Hendricks, baby. Kendricks.

Eric Kendricks. Year 11, 12. Great player at one point. Still evidently a good player. He's been there for like two weeks. Okay? He's been there two weeks. He made a lot of plays for them.

Wallow. Anybody knew who the fuck that again? We're not talking about the podcaster. We're talking about the backup linebacker and those guys played pretty well. I thought Robert Salah had this team ready to play. I thought Bryce Huff played well. Yeah. Okay?

And you know, it's good for you, man. Because if you played in the NFL, everybody's been there where you say, hey, like, I got written off. They think I suck. Revenge game. And he played pretty well. I mean, it wasn't the star of the game or anything, but I'm just giving some love to that defense.

The offense knew we got to hit some big plays. And credit to Kyle Shanahan knowing where on the field and went in the game to pull that seven-year-old trick out of his fucking bag. That's the same play they hit on New Orleans seven years ago. It came out this morning. And Jennings, obviously, anytime you play a wide receiver that was a, was a quarterback at any point. Somebody told me he was one of the...

Not just a quarterback. Tell me. He was like one of the top and they showed the people from his class and like coming out of high school. Like he was fifth. He was fifth. And everybody knows when he touches the ball that he could throw it, especially with the depth of that reverse.

He was above Burrow, which is a fucking wild deal. But it was a dime and he got fucking crushed. And McCaffrey tracking that ball. I got an easy. catch for McCaffrey either, man. If it wasn't so painful, it's probably one of the most beautiful pictures of the entire playoff was there down at the pylon. McAfree. Bevel. Over his head like that, like Willie Mays and just, you know, on the road at the link, like this was such a big boy win for them. Shanahan's a great coach. They couldn't run the ball, but they stayed at it

and they hit in cuts. They went at Quignan, who by the way, recovered great. Two picks. I'm talking about in the second half, I'm saying, put him in the ring of honor. He's going to be, he's one of those guys that's going to be that good for that long in an Eagles uniform. But they were not afraid to go at him earlier, early in the game. And the safety play wasn't great. We can talk about that for the Eagles. But I think the Niners just the, the wherewithal and the playoff experience. Again, it comes back to playoff experience. I know the Phillies got it, but the Niners have it to, and they've been going a long time. And this was just such an impressive win by them. Brock Purdy throws two picks, but with the game on the line, he's not a robot.

And he's layering balls in the middle of field and he's taking chances. Okay, and I know that like we're going to talk about the Eagles quarterback, Jalen Hertz, and everything. But, you know, sometimes I always sometimes wish he'd take more chances. Yeah. Right. And so, Niners, great fucking win. Gigi's Niners. You deserve that thing.

And nobody in here shocked. And I think that's the shame of it. because while the Eagles were never going to be the team they were last year, every team's different, and we know how hard it is to repeat. You heard guys talk about it at the podium last night, they were good enough to be better than what it ended up being. But as soon as you could see, the offensive line not playing at the level they were last year, it kind of becomes, well, everybody now has to make it happen.

I think a lot of people thought for a long time a lot of people were the main character on this offense. The main character on this offense through all these runs has been the offensive line. And so now you're talking about a future that maybe doesn't include Lane Johnson. I don't know. I haven't talked to Lane the last 72 hours. I haven't talked to him. I check in with Lane and that sort of thing. I don't know if he's, I don't know if retirement's on the table or not. But I'm saying at some point, we've been talking about it for a couple years. You've got to draft as a replacement. Okay, Juergens made the Pro Bowl. Did not have a great year. Landon Dickerson up and down with injuries, right? You've had a lean on debt pieces.

all of a sudden, you kind of see how the other half lives. And so that's why we can sit here and talk about the coordinator. He's got to go. First things first. Kevin Petula's got to go. Nothing against the guy personally. Being an offensive coordinator in the NFL is really fucking hard. And do I think that some of his shortcomings were related?

Shady McCoy, I'm not going there because I didn't hear that directly. But like when you watch, you're kind of like, well, he has to know this is the dumbest fucking offense I've ever seen. Like, maybe there are some limitations that are informing the decisions. And you could say, oh, well, we saw, you know, Jalen's had X amount of coordinators. I'm sorry, I'm taking

the kid gloves off. You have to be able to play better than that. And, and the head coach, I'm going to be honest. I got... If your O.C., do you want that job? Just seeing, like, the race show. Yes. Yes. I want that job. Look at the roster. Yeah. Tom Munkin's

sitting there like, yeah, let me take that fucking job. And I'm not saying you've got to find a new quarterback, but what I'm about to say is this. Or a head coach. After a performance like that, it's kind of like, I kind of want to be like, what is it that you two do here? I'm talking about the head coach and the quarterback because all I heard was the offense is going to turn it on. The head coach picked that coordinator. He was with him in Indy. You know, it was supposed to be a continuity play.

I'm sure at least part of the decision was made with the quarterback in mind. You have to be able to, and AJ Brown drop balls. Luckily, it didn't come down to the AJ drop. They got a fresh set of downs. You had the whole field to work with. You got beat. You scored 19 points on the defense. Quite frankly, we're at a boying because there's not a lot of great players on it.

And so everybody shares in this failure. And I'm not going to sit here because I have. friends in the building or because I want to take my kids the games and fucking lie about what I see. I don't know how the head coach or the quarterback this year helped them separate. And that's a hard truth. Not saying they have to find new ones. They're both gamers. They're both winners.

I sat here and defended the guy at every turn, Nick and Jalen. but if what you got is, hey, they're winners, then what happens when you don't win? If you say, hey, well, you know, it's just about winning. What happens when you lose six games or whatever it is in the regular season and then you lose your first playoff game? And it's two out of three years now, okay? And I know they've been to the bowl twice.

And I know expectations are high. But I do not like what I see with this offense. Yeah, Chris, the thing to you... I'm not going to bullshit you. That's all I have to say. Right. And I mean, I agree with you. when I think about the Eagles offensively,

you think about all the, you know, the ingredients of a recipe. You know what I mean? Like, let's say you're trying to make something. You have fucking a prime piece of beef in Sequin Barclay. You know, you have all these different pieces. And then when you put it together, like the final product, it's just fucking, it's just so mid, you know, like with the, with what they have, the talent that they have offensively on the roster,

for them to, you know, score only 19 points against the very depleted 49ers defense. it's just so frustrating, especially even like, you know, I was kind of holding out hope, like, oh, things will be different in the playoffs. Like, they're going to do some different stuff. And you just saw the same shit that we've seen all year. And so to your point, it's like there are still a lot of great pieces in there, like some, you know, aging out a little bit and the nature of the NFL, like the roster is going to change. But some of those core pieces that are really good are still there, I think if you just

mix it up with something, like a different offensive coordinator, like they can really get back on track. But it's just, it's such a. And with the quarterback that you have, because you've seen him run an offense at a high level, but the point I'm making is the offenses that he was running at a high level were the monstars, dude. Right. The fucking monster. You need to get a coordinator who's going to be able to kind of elevate, you're saying,

when you can't have a dominant run game and a dominant offensive line, who's going to elevate the time? I need more pre-stap motion. I need more under center. All the things I've been harping on all year. I need more play action. I want, when you watch the Eagles offense play, it looks like a different. sport than some of the other offenses. And so we'll find out fast if it is the coordinator or if it's the quarterback next year. Right. I'm not saying, hey, you got to go find a different

quarterback. It's both, man. But I think it's always a little bit of both. And, you know, listen, I fucking, I love watching that team last year. I loved watching them two years ago. There are just long enough spells, even in those championship seasons where you see kind of that stagnation in the passing game right where i'm like hey man eventually everybody has to be talked about and here's the thing i'll ask you a question you can't take anything away from what the what the guys on this team have done including the quarterback jalen's what 27 28 years old uh yeah about that he'll be you'll have to you'll have to uh extend him at what age he he's he's up in yeah like 29 no one's at the land he's at the land

No one's at the link right now. Reporting from the link. If you had to extend him and say two years, project the physical tools out. Right. Part of his game is that really frustrates me is he vacates pockets a lot. Yeah. He'll vacate a pocket, but he doesn't have the wheels right now.

And he's just drifting out of the pocket and trying to, you know, have someone, like, in that final drive, I think it was like second and 10 or something like that. And that's kind of what he did. He like he drifted out of the pocket towards the throwing arm towards the right side line, trying to find something down the field. And it's like, you know, it would be nice to see him tuck that and run. I feel like five, you know, three or four years ago, he would have. And that's, I think, to your point, Chris, someone in the chat said that, this was a while ago,

said that Jaylon Hertz is going the Russell Wilson route. And like, I kind of laugh initially. It's not a bad point. No, but you know what? Russell Wilson, there's people think he might should be in the whole. Hall of Fame for what he's done. Jalen, you can't take anything away from what he's done. Winner. But we are talking about right now. Yeah, we're talking about right now. And next year is going to be a big year. If he's the quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles, let me ask you this

question, chat. Are we going to be allowed to question the quarterback? If you're two years removed from a Super Bowl, what is it? You know, because in NFL buildings, we don't say, hey, but he did that a year and a half ago, remember? What have you done? You got a whole year a tape that says, and first things first, got to get Petulah out of there. But I want to see him grow in a way that I don't see a lot of 28-year-olds grow.

You kind of already hit your growth spurt. I kind of want to see the growth. And part of the growth is playing on time, processing quicker, that time to throw it can't be predicated on because you're going to be living in a post-lane Johnson

world. You're going to be living in a post Jeff Stoutland's All-Stars world. Dallas Goddard's going to be probably on his way. They're going to trade A.J. Brown. They probably do. Post June 1, they probably trade him. And I would, honestly, because, and I got nothing against A.J. Brown. You don't think I'm going to get to A.J. Brown here. Some of the Jalen people are like, oh, you're not going to get to A.J. Brown. I love A.J. Brown. I think he's been an amazing player in this league. And I even like some of the sentiments that he came out with earlier this year because they were a lot of the same things that I was talking about, which is it

ain't about winning in fucking September. It's about projecting the brand of football we're playing into January. And he, you know, he wasn't the best messenger maybe, but he was trying to send the right message. But what you can't do is drop some of the balls he's dropped down the stretch. You can't come up empty in big situations down the stretch. Now, the ball, the deep shot, middle of field closed, that's a tough one. Yeah.

Like this is a nice play. I think it was Siegel. Nice play. going to be tough to catch that football. I even think the shot versus man coverage that happened almost immediately after would have been a tough ball to track and make. On the right sideline. But I do see things with AJ's game where all of a sudden he's a little bit

stiffer than he used to be. And, you know, the things that I see are on some of the balls where he has to bend down and get, you know, pass his low, you know, adjust late. He's still a fucking problem. But if he's a problem, I'm not talking about in the locker room, But if he is a problem between the quarterback and him and they choose to keep the quarterback, then they probably do need to trade him. They have to make a decision, right?

And I don't know what you get for him. So, yeah, I mean, like, I don't want to fall into the trap of because it's a team I played for because we're in the, you know, it's a big market or, you know, it's the Eagles and we ride the wave with them. We're not saying burn it all down. What I am saying, though, is this is a moment of truth for them. It really is. and anybody that says it's not,

then you're just, you're, you're being a fan. You're being a fan. You're not being level-headed or reasonable about it because I did not see the quarterback play, the offensive coordinator call, or the head coach coach well enough this year. I didn't see it. So, you know, you can take that for however you want it,

aggregate me, fucking put me on a quote board, tell me I hate the Eagles. I'm just telling you, I love the Eagles when they're good, but when they're not good, I'm not going to sit here and cry about them. I'm going to tell you how I feel. You know, I didn't expect this team to go all the way. Chris, so obviously we're looking to the future a little bit with the Eagles because we're at that point of the season.

They're out of the playoffs. Everyone in Philly's kind of looking towards the offseason and next year. We've talked mostly about the offense. You got to like, you know, I guess a little bit of silver lining is personally. I feel pretty fucking good about where the defense is at. Now, I think safety play was a little suss yesterday. Reed Blankichick did not have his best game. He had a critical penalty that negated that sack.

I think that was like one of the final drives. I think it was the final drive. And then he kind of inexplicably dropped CMC on that Joanne Jennings touchdown. Other than that, I thought the defense was really good against a tough Kyle Shanahan scheme. But like looking forward, I mean, there's a lot of, there's a lot of fucking talent defensively. And Vic, I mean, it feels like they really came into their own, you know. So like if you're looking for one bright spot, I guess, for the, the birds.

Defensively next year, it feels pretty good. Dude, Vic Fangio's great. Howie's done a great job. I mean, like, all the, I think Jaylick's Hunt is going to be a star in this league. That's my only concern. Some of these dudes that are playing well, like Morrow, Hunt, you know, Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis are going to be up for money soon. You can't pay everybody.

That is my only concern. There's a window, which is, it's almost like the team flips where, you know, it was an offensive line dominated team for a while. Yeah. You know, defense. I mean, even our defense, we were a really good defense. everything yeah but we weren't to the level of these guys you know top to bottom back end to front back end i think you got two all pro corners and the whole thing like no way now it's a defensive

team yeah and so how do you build your team out well if you're a defensive team one thing you can't have is a bunch of fucking three and outs right like if that's how you're going to be built yeah like i don't care if you got to win low scoring games but the stagnation the inconsistency you know people laugh at me when i say you can be you can afford to be bad but not not consistent not consistently bad. You know what I'm saying? Like, you can't just constantly be three and out because the defense just gets used to be in sudden change or not sudden change in this case. And that's the thing I was going to say. I'd like to see Jaylin take more chances. Yeah. And maybe it's, it's maybe with him, some of it is he's just protecting the football too much, which is it's a fucked up thing to

critique somebody on. But sometimes it feels like watching this offense, they play things so safe. Yeah. And I always talk about he's as good at. deep ball throw is anybody in the league. Patrick Mahomes, anybody, right? I had somebody laugh at me when I said that earlier this season. So I don't just shit on Jalen for a living. I think there's a lot of really good things he does. Some of those throws are safe for him. There's also no creativity to the fucking offense, man. There's no creativity. The route concepts, there's a bunch of fucking stop routes. If you play zone, if you play zone match, if you play men. Four berths on fourth and 11 against quarters, it's like, what the fuck are we doing? What are you doing? There's nowhere to go with

the ball. What do you want from them? So yeah, I want to give them a chance, but I think that year puts him behind the eight ball. I think it does. I think it's fair to say that. And absolutely, Petulah's got to go. Got to go. Got to go. Bye.

See you. Can we make a little, just maybe briefly a little wish list for offensive coordinators for the birds? Cliff Kingsbury. I think some people aren't watching the same season. Oh, what are you saying? I said Cliff Kingsbury. end of list he said wish list for office coordinator i watch the fansky jalen's the qb jellin's the qb jailin's a qb okay he said munkin earlier munkin makes it munkin munkin would be great i would have to

think balsmore tries to make that work though munkin watch them go hire greg roman uh what are you saying the chat chris people are watching a different game well you know i think the disconnect with people it's crazy the the the anchor the the the the the anchoring bias or whatever is nuts from some fans where it's like hey man you know like this guy's not going to be your friend whether it's a j brown or jaylin hurts or you know Kevin petulow they're not going to be your friend you know you can call it how you see it and you know like i got a lot of respect for everybody that wears that uniform it's not easy this isn't a personal critique at no point are we sitting here saying this guy's not a good guy this guy's not a person i can tell you from

experience. There's nobody in the locker room that is more critical of players than themselves. They all know. Like, they know. They know. There's nothing personal about this business. So anyways, Niners, incredible win. As you can see, you kind of, you kind of, you kind of did the thing. You, dude, Kyle Shanahan's the coach of the year, man. I mean, it's him and Braves, right? Yeah. That's who it is. Like, Sean Peyton, you know. Liam Cohen. Liam Cohen. Cohen, I mean, he's definitely up there, man, but fucking Seahawks coach. You just, yeah. See, again, here we go.

You know, it's people going back to, I would love it. Hertz ball in both Super Bowls he played in. No shit. He was incredible. Yeah. He wasn't incredible all season here. He wasn't incredible all season here. And unless you got a way to get the roster back to what it was offensively,

because part of it is in the second half of this game, okay, I'll get it. I'll give you the first downs, the first downs in the second half of this game, they run duo for eight yards, play action incomplete, outside zone, TFL, Juergens gets run over, power TFL. This is confounding here because part of it's like, you know, you want to put it on the offensive coordinator. Well, you got power blocked up nicely. My lot is pulling in the hole in the bubble side and Tank Bigsby runs out to the perimeter. And the fucking frame ends with Fred Johnson and Milata doing this. So there's bad ball being played on the field by the players too, right?

And their names are not all Jalen Hertz. But the point is you get the credit, you get Super Bowl MVP. When you win the Super Bowl, when you score 19 points on the backups from San Francisco at home, you're kind of up for being critiqued. The backups with weak ligaments. And the fans exiting the link last night kind of had the same sentiments about Petulow. Yeah, you got to play this guy real quick. This young fella.

Sam, the legend. unmute the stream and I got a loss oh no you probably would have rather had coal huh yeah probably I'm feeling two of two things

A I want A.J. Brown packing his bags and I want him somewhere else that is not here I love you A.J. But like you can't make those drops in that game and I also want Kevin Petulow flipping burgers at like

the local McDonald's or something I don't get it Whenever he's an offensive coordinator it's like he's flipping burgers one side he's cooking one half he's cooking and the other half is completely raw. Yes, this was a huge luckdown. That's probably one of the more reasonable Eagles fans after the game too, huh? Yeah, the hamburger thing was pretty clever.

Definitely the most sober. He was cooking. Cut off the front, he said those tickets were his Christmas gift. Oh, really? Yeah, so he said, that's what I got. It was a playoff loss. Well, that's fandom, man. That's the thing.

You know, fandom is riding with the wins and the losses. So, you know, it is what it is, man. This organization has been incredibly. incredible over the span of a decade. So not all going to be Super Bowl winning seasons. And to the people that said I had CTE earlier this season, because I doubted the offensive ceiling, I just want to say, how are you doing? Are you guys straight?

All right. Let's talk bills. Three and one of my, CTE doesn't affect my locks. I think I'm, what am I on the season? 62% or something like that. We don't need to do the math. You're up there. I'm up there.

Yeah, yeah. Before we go to the bills. Before we go to the bills, any preliminary thoughts on a- We're going to the bills at some point? The Niners Seahawks match up this week. Nineers, Seahawks. This is going to be a tough one for the Niners, man. But they're kind of like the Bears in that I'm like,

can you really tell them what they can't do anymore? Like, I can't tell this team what they can't do. Yeah. I thought Sala did such a good job. He brought some heat. brought a little bit more pressure than you were used to, which I thought was... Oh! Oh!

Look who it is. Speaking of living my best life. Duv- Hey, I had to come on, because... I had to come on because Chris was talking... Can you go so here? Yeah, fuck yeah, you can. Oh, yeah, because Chris sent me that...

Sent me he was smoking packs of us, mate. Yeah, talk shit to all them. They've been talking shit about the Jags. They couldn't wait for this day. I brought Duval on just for you. Nate. You had a teammate here. They couldn't wait for you. I ain't going to front, bro. I ain't on front, bro. I was hurt in the bitch

because I had in my mind. I thought everything was lining up perfectly for us to go to the Super Bowl. I had in my head, like, I was like, everything's making sense. This is our year. No, I'm hurt. That's why I was hurt. Because I had, I had booked my flight

to San Francisco and all. Well, no, you still need to come out to San Francisco. We'll be out there. Come on, ma'am. The reason why I'm hurt is that I've been the biggest Cam Little fan and that miss kick just like him little part like that that miss bro that kick is is the difference in the game it is it is just like from him like the amount of shit I've been talking about how good our kicker is and why like he didn't make the pro bowl the longest right I talk so much shit I showed him so much love on social media and everything

if we he fall out here too where I be why I be on wakeboard and this shit wait till I see him again. Man, so I tried to get Deval on here last week, and he was like, man, my internet's not so good. You probably should have come on last week, but, you know. Yeah, I can't even talk shit this week. I just got to check this ever. Hey, do you remember what I text you this weekend when you said, well, what did you say? You said, how are you feeling about Trevor now?

Do you remember what I said to you on January? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're talking about what you said? I said, I know Trevor's in there somewhere. That third quarter, like I told you, I don't know, I don't want to talk about him on here. No, we don't have to talk about it. I'm just glad to see you, dude. I'm just glad to see you, man, and get you on the podcast, man.

Fuck. God, what was I going to say, dude? Yeah, where'd you watch the game? Were you at the game? Yeah, I was at the game, man. And I ain't going to front. I got to give it the, Buffalo. Their fans is the best fans I ever seen in my goddamn.

I'm like, the motherfucker. They are. They are. They are. all filled up, just of them. Were they cool? Who? The Bills fans. Were they okay? Were they cool?

I don't know because I didn't go downtown after we lost. But I know they had downtown on a lot. The funniest shit was I sent you that picture with the cigar. That's what I'm talking about. You called me smoking some Jaguar pack. Smoking the Jags pack. And then Nate's like, yo, look at what Duval just posted. He said, if you try to text me or call me today,

We're not fucking friends anymore. I missed the cutoff by five minutes. I was hurt for real, man. I don't think everybody in Jacksonville are hurt. We're just trying to look good at, look good being hurt. But you like Liam Cohen. You think the future's bright. I do like him good.

I ain't on front when he first did that dude. Oh, oh, my God. It's over. It's over. But then Sap, you know, I mean, Warren Sapp, he hit me up and it's like, nah, y'all got a good one. Y'all might go to the playoffs this year.

And shit, he was right. He was right. And they better get off that, that nice reporter lady's ass down there talking about she shouldn't have said what she said after the game, big enough. That's a,

that's a black woman. You know, shit, that's how I got this far. Having them type of women in my bed. Right? You're going to do it, Shuggle. Right, exactly. Yeah.

She had interviewed me before. Yes. And they are so mad at her. Like, real reporters. You can't take that time to say that and not ask a real question. Man, that lady sounded too nice and too pure-hearted. And on the other hand, he looks like he needs to hear it too. Exactly.

As hurt as everyone is, we have to take a step back. It's hard to right now just close to the game. But, bro, we had 13 wins. How many fucking wins did we have last year? It's just you got to step back. And we already won. Exactly. I take my head off to y'all players because I don't know how y'all talk after defeat like that.

ain't no way here, I'm gonna get on the interview and talk after that, which I guess you gotta get paid, but I'll be like Marshawn Lynch, I'm just here to get paid. AJ Brown said, I'm not talking to anybody yesterday. AJ left, AJ Brown left. You can lose. I mean, you can leave. Get fine.

You get fine. Hurt your pockets. Man, that shit. I know. That's why I said I took my hat up for y'all because, man. Like, after yesterday, ain't no way in here. I would have talked to them. I would have fucked up.

I wouldn't win viral. All right. So what we got to get from you is your Super Bowl prediction now, now that you can kind of. Shit. Oh, shit. I ain't on front. Josh Allen made me a believer this week yesterday.

That boy, the truth. He's nice, dude. I tried to tell him that here's a little bit. I tried to tell him. But, um... Okay, Buffalo and who? I think Chicago and Buffalo. Wow.

That'll be nice. Some city's going to be happy. That'll be nice. And then Jacksonville will be next up next year. You know? That's my other horse, so. So. I say Chicago's my other horse, so, you know.

He's got another horse, too. I mean, I play for both teams. I play for both teams. Like, you know, so. Okay. I'll go, you know, I got to, I'm going to pull for Buffalo now, and I think it's Buffalo and, golly, I hate to say this. This has really put me on the spot here.

I think the Rams. That's what I was going to say. Buffalo. I got doubts, though, about Buffalo if they see Houston. Yeah. I don't know if San Francisco is going to get out of this weekend because they got to play Seattle. So when we come down to Jacksonville next year,

will you hang out in the pool or do you not do the pool? Is that that pool is not? The pool, it's over. I think this is our last year in that stadium. Oh, yeah, because, oh, yeah, they're displaced and they're playing in Orlando, Nick. Nick, I think yesterday was our last game now that I think about. Damn, dude, y'all were so distracted by thinking you were going to the Super Bowl

You didn't even do like, hey, this is the last game at this shit hole in Orlando for the next year. Let me ask here. That's two years. 27, 27. Okay. No, but one, I think the year in between, are they renovating? I think that's when it's renovating. I was there yesterday.

It was a whole, they put some steps. Okay, okay, okay. Duvall, hey, if you could, if they called you and they were like, hey, man, we're going to, you get to design the stadium with us, what, how, how would you put in that? that stadium. Little Duvall's perfect Jacksonville Jaguar Stadium. And it's not in London. You actually keep the team, which I know is not a foregone conclusion.

Shit, it already looked good from the rendering their shoulders, but... Damn, what would I put in that? I wish you... Damn, me think. It's a good question. I know, all right?

What would I put in that, the pool would have to? I probably... See, this Jacksonville, I could probably put a strip club in that hole. Hell yeah. Yeah. We got to get some better holes, though, man.

I know. I know you got to probably. Hey, man, I got to get out there to Montana, man. Yes. Come see us this summer. Fax comes out there every summer. Maybe we can link up there. We'll link up in San Francisco because you still got to come to the Super Bowl, right?

There's some money to be made there. I don't want to come. I'll be out there listening to people talk shit to me all day. I'm not doing that. I promise you, if you come out, we won't talk any shit. We'll just let you be. Not you. I know.

Not you. I'm talking about when I go out and about. Yeah, you're right. People probably. Duval, how about them Jaguar, boy? I ain't trying to hear all this. How about them? Well, dude, hey, I just want to get you on the show.

We wanted to check you out, man. And we're going to come down to, um, we're going to come down to Camp Duval. Yeah. Got to. Yeah. Got to. Come down to Camp Duvall, man. It's chills.

go fishing or good hunt i don't know if y'all can say that on here but yeah yeah we're good why not facts will catch all the fish in your pond dude yeah i'm trying to i'm trying to come you know what i still ain't caught nothing in my shes i see him but i still ain't had to i just just just catch the bitches uh well that's where he comes in that's funny this guy knows that's like chris chris don't fish in his pond i've caught i've caught fish in his pond no i just when my kids want to fish will fish but i'm not really I mean, if I fish, I'm going to be out there deep fishing and want to catch something just to catch for, but that shit, the workout, though. Yeah, that sounds pretty good.

Yeah. All right, so we got Camp Duvall. You come see us in Montana. I'm glad to finally get you on the show. This is a really good segue into the breakdown of Jags and Bill. So you called it at the right time, bro. It's good to see you. For sure, for show, man.

It's all love, man. You know I fuck with you. All right. All right. All right. All right. how you cut this shit on however you want man

you just hit the X it ain't no X on this bitch on my I ain't got the app I'm on the internet you could help us break down Chargers patrons no I'm good let me get off

let me get off now y'all try to make me work all right all right bro hey man that's a that's great that's great I know some people in here

were like number one who the fuck is that he's one of the funny motherfuckers on the planet little duval comedian uh big jacksville jaguars fan uh i think i might have gone to one of his shows maybe like 12 years ago i was longer in that maybe it was me and like king dunlap and a couple guys i forget where we were we had to be in like florida and after the show we we bonded over our love for toyotas me and him like he was probably like who the fuck is this white guy and then we start talking about toyotas and we're like going man i'm

I love the FJ 40s. He's like, what about the 55? You know, like, we were really into it. So we kept in touch, but we'll get him on the show in the offseason for sure. Best thing you said was he wasn't on the app. He was on the internet. He's the fucking man, dude. I love that guy.

So with that having been said, maybe we should just roll right into Sunday football, Bill's Jags. First off, I would say this, Fags. No. What's he? I don't know. What is that? This is a flyover game, right? Let's just get rid of. Look at the Jags home. It's gone. Yeah. Back half of the show.

The Jags. Look, you got a bear's helmet here. Wow. No, I will say this. Jags fans, I give you a lot of shit proxy through my friend Nate, but it's an exciting future you got. You know, I'm always going to be a little skeptical about the quarterback, you know, like as if, as if you let your wife stay after she, she went home with some guy, you know, you, you know, you're always going to be looking over your shoulder. That's kind of how I feel about Trevor Lawrence. But otherwise, that is a fucking crazy ass metaphor. I get what you're trying to say, but it is a crazy matter. It's a crazy metaphor. Whatever it is. Think about, he doesn't trust it. Give me a better metaphor. Why you got to,

just take it down a little bit. Don't do my quarterback like that. It's like your boy, like you're in a and he doesn't, you know, he doesn't back you up. Try to think of a better one. Your buddy, like. No, if your buddy doesn't back you up in a fight, like, you're like, you're, you're, I'm not hanging out with him anymore. You're just skeptical. But there are dudes who are like, you know what?

Yeah, maybe we should stay together for the kids, you know? Yeah. The yoga, the jihitsu instructor, you know, but then you go down the road a little bit and you're like, I can't stop thinking about that time. Are you the same person? You know all that couples therapy that Liam Cohen put us through? Are you the same person? But you're always going to be like, man, I haven't gotten to Texas.

It's 1 a.m. You know, she says she's out with her girls, but she don't have her phone with her. You know, that's how I feel about Trevor Lawrence a little bit. So anyways, can I get to the compliment? Yes. I think the Jags from a football team standpoint are as good as almost anybody in the league. And this was, as I said, coming to this game, the bills winning this game, it felt like the winner of this game could go to the Super Bowl. Absolutely.

And it's a tough draw for the Jags because they played that man. You know who that man is? It's Josh Allen. Okay. And honestly, this was one of the most fun games to watch. Because we talk about like teams going back and forth, okay, answering. and it comes down to a turnover at the end of the game. Josh had two chances down points in the fourth quarter.

He delivered in both of those situations. That's the solace I would take if on the Jags, man. Jags are starting a chapter. The bills are like seven years into this thing. You know, where they've been in the playoffs a million times. This is their first road win, but they've won a playoff game in six straight seasons. You know, so like this is a battle-hardened group. and ultimately

you know they got it done so there's no Jags shouldn't feel like losers in this thing and honestly I think there's a lot to build on with Trevor I just you know I just thought that like I thought in this game it came down to quarterback play man because Josh

I add it up I know I've kind of been a little bit what's the word where you're where you're coming at somebody your confrontation conversation with some fans that are out there because I always get shit when I say this.

I think he's the best quarterback on the planet right now. And, you know, he could have a week off and get beat by the Texans or, you know, play shitty in the rain against the Eagles. But when it comes to playoff football, which is the thing that you want to gatekeep people like Justin Herbert or Jordan Love about, this guy's as good as anybody that's ever played in the playoffs statistically. I'm just telling you, those are the facts. The thing you got to do is win the big one, and now you've got a chance to do that because you're looking at the dance floor, and it's a little bit clearer than it was, you know, last year. And so coming to this game, it was supposed to be a big legacy game for him. We'll add this to the fucking legacy then,

everybody on ESPN, because he delivered when it counted, which is what he always does in the playoffs. I mean, so anyways, another great playoff performance. Team played tough. Team played really So many big throws I think the throw to Shakir with Lloyd bearing down on him Blitz bearing down on him was just unbelievable Some of the he was he was the good version Yesterday whereas like he didn't make any bad

Decisions with the football There weren't plays where I was like oh fuck You know tuck it away like you you're You're holding on to it too long and and part of the reason Was you know while the Jags have a very good pass rush unit It's hard for those two edges to do it all themselves in pass rush And you know what's crazy what that we really needed Travis Hunter on defense this year we really needed a guy to stick on a number one or when a guy like Shakir is the only person that's like to statistically hurting you in that game like hey strap him up yeah like fucking strap him up and let everyone else beat us and I just feel like we didn't really have that like we didn't have that and just like you're saying it look into the future like I love the Jags and

but just this year in that game it's Shakir killing us but also too I felt like at the beginning of year when we were losing games the issue was like all these games we start these games off with the script and running the ball get into the ball out of the back field finding ways

and when it's working for whatever reason when we're winning like we want to go away from it like bro like at half time Liam Cohen really like literally tells the sideline reporter yeah we're getting eight yards to pop on the ground right now. We're great in the run game and we abandon it.

So it's just like I agree. I get it. You maybe you get lost up in the game and the flow of the game and you're coaching and you have your notes and things that you want to run. But it's just like, bro, like, hey, like with the, when you're up, Intians is doing great. Bacials doing great. Like running.

And I feel like there was a couple of spots where maybe they tried to, try. to get a Trevor Lawrence run in and maybe it wasn't the right time or maybe it didn't work out the way it was supposed to. But I just felt like we shouldn't abandon the run the way we did. I totally have an explosive runs. Three point two yards before contact. And like the Bill's defense, they've been banged up. You know, Ed Oliver's been injured like their defense has been shaky in the run game at times. I agree with you completely, man. It's like, stick with that, bro. Basial four four curious, 51 yards and then ETN Jr. 10 for 67. The exact. exactly what you're saying, dude. They try to go to Trevor Lawrence

in those critical moments and design runs. Like, think about that one fourth down that we would hear from 30 minutes. That plays the biggest play of the game. 100%. Because, okay, he called the, first off, he called the turnover. I don't know what made him say. We're going to force a fumble right here.

On a kickoff. But buddy. It's like a 40-year kickoff. Who was it? Ray Dave. How you're talking about? 22. Who fumbled the ball?

Yeah, 22. Ray Davis. Ray Davis. So he fumbles the football in the kickoff. You're down seven. three at that point. If they go in and score 14 to 3 because of the way the fucking run game was going, now the bills have, I would say this about most teams, I'd say it was curtains, but the bills have come back in the second half as much as anything in the league. Yeah, for

sure. But that was huge, and it was all shin, right? It's shins down, so it's the right call. But I just want to say, like, and what about that stupid AI fucking spotting being wrong? And saying it was the first down. Which one? The AI. being a yard off on that play. Oh, it was crazy. The virtual spot. When they first showed it, I'm like, yes. Is it the first down, Grock?

Yeah. Hey, Grock, is it first down? I'm like, yes. And did they show it again? And you guys are like, wait, that's a fucking yard off. I'm just so, I just want to say I'm so impressed with, because obviously, that game felt like a big game in our building because like we weren't going to hear the end of it. Never.

Literally never. I was nervous. Why do you guys think that? It's not, bro. Bro. Bro. If the Jags would have won the Super Bowl, like, yes, you guys would have never heard the end. Oh, if Josh Allen would have lost the Jags, bro, that's like nightmare fuel for me.

Oh, for you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You would have been on my head, dude. He popped a fucking confetti bomb that he got from like a fireworks stand when the Jags scored their first touchdown. It like, it was like, you know, dogs were, it had to put the dogs inside, you know, like my ears were ringing. It was crazy. I actually, hold on a second.

I'm so glad I got to pop that confetti thing. So am I. I'm telling you. Because I saved the confetti. I got the confetti. I told you my most prized possession. It's not Super Bowl rings. It's the confetti that I scoot with my own hands after I was on two Super Bowl teams.

And I was down there, put it all in a Papa John's. Hey, GGs. And, man, I had to get some of this confetti. So I'm going to put this in a shadow box with my other confetti. You know what's great, though? What? No, my team being good. right now in the way it's the roster they're out we'll see you again i mean in the future this might

we will this could be the start of a trilogy like that's what i'm saying this might be something that everyone's looking forward to hey i expect you guys to be back and i expect you guys to be back well that's because that not me i you know but but i do expect them to be there every year they win a fucking playoff game every year so i just say this in a game where you know Gabe davis goes down in this game you don't have a ton of wide receivers anyways we thought the tight ends would be a big part of the game and maybe from a resource allocation standpoint it was for jacksonville but they did not target the tight ends a bunch until you hit in k for that critical touchdown at the end of the game of course you you know we talked about it earlier running him by um who was it lloyd there and he's passing it off

and it's just you see that play a lot in the red zone today's NFL the high red and and josh made some big throws, but I thought Kalil Shakir, who's one of my favorite players on that team, there were so many important, you can really tell how much they trust him when they needed a drive start. Or just to get to third and manageable. They were, it was third and, uh, third and six or whatever like that with time was winding down. Yeah. I threw him that screen, you know, and then right after that, it was the fucking 10 yard tush push. All day yesterday, you fell forward for it. The 10 yard push, you have to admit, was kind of badass. That was sick. Unreal. Yeah. Like, that's kind of like Josh Allen encapsulated the irony

of that whole thing is. They fucking they were chicken shit enough to vote against the tush push. Shaw McDermott I saw that. That's beautiful. Four times yesterday. Chicken shit and the game comes down to tush push again this year. They fuck it up last year with the game in the line against Kansas City.

I hate to be this guy. Be the guy bro. Don't stop being the guy now. It was fucking off sides. Maybe so. The Eagles lost on a damn. Hey, nobody was set. They They weren't set. San Francisco wasn't set when the Eagles lost. Yeah.

Do you see that last play? They weren't set. And I was a holding on number three. Yeah. There's missed calls all day. So, I mean, like, I just, I look at this thing as, this was a heavyweight fight. I need cooks to catch the ball. The miss before the half was really costly.

They could have got a two-for-one there. They would have been up 16 to 10 or something like that. But it could end up rushing. That defense, though. I'm not talking about James. I'm talking about, I'm talking about Brandon. who's had some drops. Remember, he caught it kind of with his midsection.

He did a pretty big game. And I still don't think he dropped. I still didn't understand that. I don't think he did either. I don't think we got the right angle. I don't think we get every angle that they try to show on TV. Like, that's the only thing I can say. I don't think he secured the catch before the ball made contact on the ground.

But I think we missed an angle that when he looked like a catch to me. When he caught it, I think the back tip. Maybe they hit the back tip. Yeah, it hit the ground. But. I've been glazing Josh, and we should, right? Because I've got to take the opportunity because y'all going to dunk on me if they didn't win. And there would be more chances.

They played Denver this week. Denver could get him. You all be like, so he sucks. But I'll just say this. Glaze camp. I was just about to say. No. Well, Camp, they did a great job stopping the run.

That's a tall task and something that Denver's really going to have to do. And I kind of worry for you all in that regard. But the defense at Sean McDermott, I always say Sean McDermott has little guys playing big. He had, and I mean that in stature, but I also mean guys that you don't expect to play big, right? Shaq Thompson played his fucking ass off this year and continues to be a big part of the equation for them. Matt Milano down the stretch, who, you know, I thought was one of the best backers in the game a couple years ago. He's kind of falling off a little bit physically, but down the stretch this year, he's played really well. And, you know, you think about the backer play, Rousseau was big for them.

I got all the respect in the world for for Trayvon Walker and Heinz Allen. I actually think the best defensive end on the field yesterday is Walker by like, you know, like a healthy little margin. Rousseau played the biggest. Rousseau was the most productive, right? And I thought that was big, like, because Bosa wasn't a game changer in this game, that Jacoby Myers fucking crack toss was unbelievable. They took away Jacobi Myers.

You know, he wasn't tremendously productive. They took away Brenton's. strange they kind of own the middle of the field right which was a big battleground in this game and um tray white i got to tell i got to tell you the god's honest truth i love tray white when i think of tray white i think great player for a long time in the league but in his current version when he's on the field i get nervous and and this year like it's a little inside joke i call him i was calling him like pirate pegs because because sometimes it looked like it hurt for him to run like he's at that stage in it. I was there. Rob Ninovich used to be like, you got those cinder blocks on today.

Trey White kind of had those pegs. No ankle flexion. Yeah, he's just kind of like he's, but yesterday, I don't know if it's a thing where a lot of times like vets late in the year, the coaches start taking more care of your group. You practice a little differently. He damn near picked a ball off on the seam. If he was 26, that's going the other way. That's a huge one. That's fourth quarter, right? The tip that led to the second pitch. huge. I thought he played big for them, man. And here's the only thing I'll say about the secondary

that I would like to see Cam Lewis out there over Hancock or whatever his name is. Howard Hancock. Yeah. That guy, listen, nothing against him. I'm a big Cam Lewis fan. And I know they have roster allocation kind of concerns that have persisted all season. I don't know what the Harrison injury is going to be.

But I would rather see Cam Lewis out there. He's playing some big games for them. he's made some big plays um i would rather see him um and especially when you consider that like denver's not really a run the football team and so um praeter also deserves some love in a game where i thought the biggest fucking advantage was cam little and his mate's like fuck cam little um praetor's fucking my age dude and he's dealing with a quad he scored nine points in this game you know i i think they they took a penalty backed him up and he still hit the kick. So I this was a it's not just about Josh Allen a lot of it's about the team man that you know

this defense is much maligned but they stepped up and held a group that was fucking torching people down the stretch. We let them off the hook. Let us off the hook. We let them off the hook. One more thing on the bill's defense I thought that did really well looking back through the tape. You know Trevor Lawrence he benefits immensely from having the answers to the test pre-snap from a coverage standpoint. I don't know how many different zone coverages they got to from man alignments. Yeah.

He had no idea. He had no idea what the coverage is going to be because they're in man or man keys pre-snap every play. Big game McDermott's spot. You know where you just play possum all fucking year. And all of a sudden you got this great game plan. The skies is where incredible.

Because the biggest issue with Trevor is and like that's my biggest thing in the beginning of the year and before they turned it around was snapping the fucking. ball under fucking three seconds because you're trying to make these last second checks and you don't have the time to. And it's just like when it works, like it works. But when it doesn't, it doesn't. Like you got to have the guys on the right page and the Jags. We went back to having pre-snap penalties and this little things that at the end of the day, three point game, like that ends up being

the difference. And hey, real quick, Parker Washington, dude, he's a fucking. dog. Mr. Washington. Like, he's going to be there. Here's another thing. They didn't really punt him the ball. Oh, and I see what you call it too. Hey, this is one thing, too.

I don't want to put this out there, but. Put it out there. Kind of put it out there. Independent, independent neurologist, bro, let me get that job. Let me get that job. And I know, like, as a player, you never want to come out the game. And it's just like, oh, you're soft if you do and whatever like that. It's just like, they're just pick, I guess, I don't know if they're just picking and choosing or what the baseline test, if they're different from when we played.

Like, I don't know what's going on in the blue tent, but we didn't see it. We thought it was a leg injury. Did you see the video of the Parker Washington? The first play? It was a concussion. Yeah. Like, he laid down. We thought it was his leg.

No, I know. Yeah, he laid down. And he came back in the game. and I'm glad that he played well and nothing else happened, but there's instances in a lot of these football games, and they try to say that they have people who come and they look down and they take guys out at the right time,

but I'm realizing, like, when you're a big time, when you're a star on the team, I feel like there becomes like, what state are we in? There's leeway. Because there was times, I feel like, Josh, there's a lot of times when quarterbacks get tackled, and Josh in the Houston game a year ago. Maybe they should stop zooming it.

Bro, maybe they should stop for NFL's sake. They should stop zooming in on quarterbacks or players when you see their head hit the ground. The announcers are the worst part about it where like they'll zoom in on a guy and he's snoring and they'll be like, I don't know. It might be a stinger. Could be a shoulder. Let's wait a second. That literally happened with Mike Evans. Remember Mike he pulls hampton and broke his collarbones and he got smack.

And Buck and Akeman are on there like, they're like, I don't know. Like, I don't know, he's breathing funny. Yeah, he's snoring. It's literally out cold. But yeah, it's just, that's one thing that I don't know. Like, obviously, player safety and, like, I mean, like, you don't want your favorite player or the star to have to come out of a game. But it's just when it does happen and they do choose to take a player out,

it just always makes me think. Like, when you see these situations where you're like, yo, that dude definitely probably. I just want to color something in because, you know, Taco Tom, he's going to get a car. Purple Tunnel Syndrome, fucking Mavis Beacon here trying to hate on my boy. Not hating on my boy, but I understand what he's saying. I like Josh Allen, but he's not close to my homes. We're talking about the right now, bro. I wouldn't have said three years ago, hey, Josh Allen's the best quarterback on the planet.

That's subject to change every year. If we did this with pass rushers, do you know how much it would change? It'd still be Miles Garrett. If you did it with wide receivers, yeah, I mean, since Miles has been in the league for the most part. But if you did it with wide receivers, it's a year to year. You know, it really is. And, and I mean, the one guy's, I know he got hurt, but he's not in the playoffs. And he hasn't played his best ball in two, three years.

I think he would tell you that. And, you know, if you're doing the QB wins thing, this guy here, look at, okay, can you pull this up? What? This fucking thing up right here. Stop it. Stop with the telling me, well, where's the Super Bowl? I've watched every fucking playoff game he's been in. And this graphic.

And yeah, he's my favorite quarterback. I'm sorry. Okay, I'm a fan like you. Dude, he's fucking tough as now. You hate me because I'm like you. Okay. Total yards game. 311 first, all time, QB rank.

Russian yards, 668 first. Touchdown to interception ratio, 6.25. I'm sorry. That's a crazy ratio. He has torched people in the playoffs. And all those numbers have gone up since yesterday. That, uh, that graphic update that graphic. Update the fucking graphic.

update the graphic put a away playoff win on that graphic too and no one's saying your favorite quarterback sucks unless you know your favorite quarterback somebody yeah like I don't know unless it's too but the point is unless you're Browns fan listen I know you hate the guy

if you you know but but he's pretty pretty damn good at the position also like dude just look at the way he elevates his entire team around him you know what I mean like they are not they don't have the same talent as you know the Eagles offensively, especially at wide receiver. I mean, you just see how

fucking tough he is, how he I don't know, man, it's impressive. He's getting fucking hyper-extended his knee trying to, you know, run it in on the goal line, and then he's push pushing for 12 yards, you know, when the game when it really matters, it's like, how can you not fucking love that as a football fan? It's great.

That's kind of like... Do you remember when Josh missed that kick? Anyways. Go ahead, Reed. No, you. A couple of things. on the injury for uh injury front obviously Gabe Davis after the season um twin left ACL uh Sean McDermott shared that today he got shavers you got shavers you have

shavers you have chaf savers and you might have Curtis Samuel who will return to practice this week as will that at Oliver at Oliver 20 one day window open I saw that that's so big that's huge but I'll tell you I'll tell you this the Curtis Samuel thing I swear Curtis Samuel at some point is going to be big for them. Ever since he showed up, I'm like, man, like, get him the ball more. I don't know if Bill's fans feel this way. No, but how about this? Ty Johnson was in a boot coming.

Yo, what the fuck is up with Darius Lay? So if the bills, wait, if the bills end up winning a Super Bowl, does he get a ring, technically? That's hilarious. He does, right? Because he's on that roster and he's not showing up. He gets a fucking ring. I don't think he's on, is he on the roster? They keep on the roster.

They have the right. Isn't he on the reserve retired list? You figure out what's going on with Darius Slay, I've got to pee again. No, isn't he on the reserve retired list? Yeah. He's. So you can't play from that, right? If you have to get activated?

If he wants to play, he's playing for the bills. But he could immediately play theoretically. Yeah, that's wild. And he was on the sideline of the Eagles game. He's just like, yeah, that's so wild. And it's just like for me, being a player, like, I mean, Slay has a, he has a Super Bowl, right? So, like, it's not, maybe it's not like that burning desire to be like, oh, I need a ring. But even if you didn't want to go to a team, it's just like, if they're in the playoffs, it's like, why not?

Like, it's just like, bro, like, what's the worst that can happen? Like, what you're doing now, you could do with another Super Bowl ring, possibly on deck, and then you could be like, I don't want to play in Buffalo. I don't fully understand it, frankly, because, yeah. Because technically now, if he went out there. He's not getting a ring. He's not. What if he's just at the parade?

That's just out of principle. Yeah. Bro, what do you mean principle? No, he shouldn't. Something that. Nate, you can't give a guy who refused to play a ring, bro. If he's technically on the roster, I wonder how that works. No.

Like, because like if a coach, if a guy, if you just hate a player. It doesn't work like that. I also don't think he would ask for the ring. Yeah. And Slay. Hey, Slay, dude. Hey, Darius, you've been on the podcast. go fucking join the bills

is too late no he's on he so he's on their reserve did not report list right now so why don't you report dog well he said it was cold as hell in buffalo when asked for a reason why he did not report sleigh your funniest cold

as cold as hell in philly at the game i like slay a lot and and uh I don't know if he could help him or not but uh dude you got a chance to do something fun here bro you know you get um a couple of those things man uh can we look

ahead to the back-to-back thing like like possibly Milton Williams join the ranks of the bills can't get a home game right how many cold yeah so that's what I was going to say I think one thing that's a little bit of a damn shame is uh you know it's kind of thought it'd be fun just you know from a storytelling standpoint and just tie up you know high mark stadium with a bow if the charges ended up beating the Patriots last night then the bills would have a home game and the final season that'd be pretty cool but I thought it'd be like that's just that would be a little story they already did the thing you know. But can we look ahead to their game in Denver?

Because I'm really excited about this football game and then we can bury the Chargers. I think for the bills, in some ways, it's a really good matchup. In some ways, I'm nervous. Reed, you can certainly chime in. But I think, number one, I think you can run the football. I think the bills can run the football.

They couldn't do that yesterday against that group. I also think you like some of the matchups out of the backfield, you know, as good as Drake Greenlaw's been since he's come back. You like some of the matchups with the tight ends. I don't think you like the matchups outside very much. But you have shown at different points in the season, as good as they are, you can beat man coverage playing this team with scheme. Getting Josh on the ground is going to be a challenge for this group.

I think for the bills, your Achilles heel is obviously you can't stop fucking nosebleeding the run game. Yeah, but Denver doesn't. doesn't run the ball. Exactly. Yes. And I think about like changing the picture and playing zone defense and I don't know. Like to me, optimistically, I think they can win this game because last year they played this Denver team. This Denver team's better this year, but how different is it? Not terribly different. And the running backs out of the backfield, that's what killed us in the game in the in the playoff game last year. That's a daggers all day.

They went for 15. So hopefully do some of this. Oh, shot. Yeah, exactly. And hopefully Drake Greenlaw can, you know, put a stop gap to that a little bit. But the Broncos are getting J.K. Dobbins back in practice this week. So fingers crossed, you know, he'll be good for the game. That's huge.

We get, you know, J.K. R.J., Jaliel, a little running game. But one thing that's going to trip the Broncos up, trip us up is, and this might be, you know, it's a little 4D chess by Brandon Bean. everybody before the season and mid-season were like, why didn't you get a number one wide receiver? Why didn't you get a number one ride receiver? They got a number one ride receiver. Then PS2 would have somebody to take away.

They wouldn't have them anyway. So now they just have a bunch of wide receivers. And PS2 is like, oh, no, what am I going to do? Right. It's 4D chess. It's really wise. It is 40-Jex. Josh Allen is their number.

Yeah, yeah. No, it's, again, like, I've seen teams that can rush the pass and bring pressure make them look silly. I do like the matchup of Dawkins and Brown, or Dionne Dawkins and Brown against these edge players, though. That'll be a fun one to watch. It's going to be a fun one. I think Spencer Brown had some tough downs yesterday with Trayvon,

but honestly, the body types that they are, you can run the ball at them. You just got to watch out for the, you know, the penetration, the knifing into the back field. Those two edges yesterday, like Trayvon, he's a hard. got a move. They kick him down a three technique. Yeah. You know, he can play a four-eye. Like, but the teams

that can bring pressure, the teams that can blitz and and get on Josh fast, sometimes that makes him do some stupid shit. And I will say this, though, I went through this last week. The games

where they played their worst, they didn't have Kincaid. You know, you look at the Houston game, that might be a blueprint for Denver. Isn't the Denver defense somewhat weak against tight end. Yes. Yeah. In the course of the season.

I remember seeing that they're like 27th or something a couple weeks ago and I don't know if that's changed. And that might be where PS2 plays into this game plan. This is a big time 12-person game for. And they'll do that. At the end of the, it was actually at the end of the Broncos Chiefs game when the game was on the line. Kelsey's in the slot.

That's where they puts their tan. They'll put him wherever the most important matchup is. Yep. So if you want to do that, then I kind of like, I like the Shakir matchup. Can I tell you a concern that I have? It might be a matchup like Samuel.

It might be a matchup. It might be a back out of the back field. You remember some of these high scoring games that the bills get into, it ends up being like, hey, it's a back fest. Yeah. Where it was like Detroit a year ago or whatever it was. I feel like Ty Johnson had a huge game, ball game. And what's going on with him, by the way, with the...

He was down for this game. Probably be honest. Yeah, I don't know if we had an update on that yet. We'll see. Zade Barron. and Jake Juan McMillan are going to be big for the Broncos taking away, they're trying to take away Shakir and the back to the back. Riley Moss and Keon Coleman, that little matchup there.

That's going to be a fun one. Oh, Keon Coleman, man. Big catch yesterday. One number to keep in mind with this game is you guys were talking coming into this game for the bills this week about pressure rate versus sack rate. Sack conversion rate. It's basically the percentage of your pressures that turn to the sack. The Broncos are second in the league and sack conversion rate, 26% only the Browns slash Miles Garrett.

Miles Garrett. So, you know, Josh is arguably the most difficult quarterback in the league to bring to the ground, but if there's any group left that can do it, these guys are the best shot. It's also a stat that implies coverage is tight. Yeah. because as a rusher who had a lower pressure to sack rate high a lot of pressures but yeah and part of that's my fault but part of that is also the fucking secondaries I play and guys rushing as a unit too and guys rushing as a unit and you know and step up and escape but I'm just telling you

from experience if your guys are back there and there's a safety valve quarterback's going to find it you know and in Denver when you play Denver late in the down and you see, you pause the fucking film and you're like, where would, where would I go with this football? There's nowhere to go. Guys end up having to eat it. You can make plays. Okay. Here, I wanted to say this.

This is the one concern I have for the bills. I rewatch that game, the, the Jags game this morning. Yeah. It was a physical fucking game, man. And so for the Denver Broncos to get that first round by, that's huge. Huge. And then play, imagine you're the bills, right? You play down and, like, they're a physical team.

The way they win is by running the ball, play action pass. Josh Allen just being fucking physical, being tough, and they kind of like willed themselves to victory. You know, you play that game in Jacksonville. And then you go play at mile high, which is a tough place to play, especially late in the season in the playoffs. You're beat up. You're coming off. You know, that's a bunch of flights, physical after a physical Jags game. Like, that's a little bit where my concern is like, you know, you saw Josh, he hit his hand.

He hyper-extended his knee. The knee-hand was nasty. Yeah. And like, you know, him, but also, you know, collectively the rest of the team, man. That's a physical fucking game. They're beat up. High on Saturday, too. It's not a Sunday game. It's Saturday. They got less time. That's a tough one. I think that factors in heavily. So can I read you? So, um,

Saturday, all those high hippies getting hyped and rowdy for a football. They don't care what day it is. They're high. Yeah, baby. We going to both leave any day of the week. Move this pod to Denver. So right now the line, uh, the bills are favored by a point. If the Broncos closes underdogs, it would be the fourth time in the last 40 years as a, that 18. off a buy in the divisional round isn't listed as a favorite. Those three previous teams of the 96-97 Panthers, they were plus three and a half against the Cowboys. They won.

The 2011-2012-49ers, they were plus three and a half against the Saints. The Niners won't. The 19-18 Eagles were plus two and a half against the Falcons. The Eagles won't. I'll say a couple things. I'm saying that. I totally know I'm jixon myself. It's also a small sample size.

Very small sample size. And I was on one of those teams. Yep. The other thing I would say is you probably are going to close to the favorite. I think so. I think the sharps are going to come in on Denver. Yeah. You know, Buffalo just had their Super Bowl.

Well, I don't know. I feel like especially after this weekend, Vegas is going to, they're going to lay a little money on Josh. You're like, hey, we can't go against this guy anymore. I don't know, man. I don't know. I feel like Denver's got, again, I don't, I'm not just sandbagging or stacking the deck for the day they lose, but I do think Denver's got, Denver's got a better team. If you put Josh, no disrespect on to Bo Nix, if you put Josh on the Broncos. Some take it.

No, I'm just kidding. I feel like they're going to win the Super Bowl. Yeah. All right. So it, no. No, I agree to that. I agree. If you put Josh on the Broncos, they're winning the Super Bowl because their defense is fucking nasty.

I guess I was thinking of it in terms of offensive lines. Offensive weapons. Yeah. I think the Bill's offensive line and the Broncos offensive weapons are. I think they're offensive like, you know, their top guys are like relatively equal. I mean, Sutton, I don't know, man. Sutton's a real number one. Yes.

That's really the only one who's a problem. above the rest, but I think between King Caden should here. I think, obviously, Cook, having the best running. Yeah. But here's the thing that also factors in. It's kind of like when Jalen Hertz got hurt last year in one of the games and the Eagles all of a sudden had a hard time running the ball. Yeah. Okay. Which is, again, what I think Jalen, that's a big part of like Jalen's effect on the game is if he can't run the ball, it changes things. If Josh woke up tomorrow and couldn't fucking move. Yeah. I mean, he's a really good quarterback, but a lot of everything they do is affect. by having to account for that extra guy. Right. And I think Cromer's a great offensive line coach.

I think they have a great offensive line. But I think Denver's offensive line's pretty fucking good too. Two all pros. Yeah. So I don't know. It's a stupid thought of exercise. But the point being, I think Denver is a really good football team. And I think by the end of the week, it could flip.

And, man, the Saturday thing's big. Yeah. Saturday thing's big. That's huge. Saturday's big. What's the other Saturday? other Saturday game is Niners Seahawks.

And so timing isn't nailed yet, but Bill's Broncos and Niners Seahawks are Saturday. It's going to be the night game. Yeah. West Coast game. Yeah. And then Rams, Bears, and then Steelers or Texans at Patriots, those games will be on Sunday.

Damn, the chat. What's making me nervous is the chat's all in on the bills Saturday. Yikes. Somebody said the bills in the Jags are the same team. Oh, Nate did. I was like, I don't know. Nate, did you mute me? They are. Did you block me, Nate? You did? God, that's so funny. I was wondering why I couldn't see your comments in the show. There was like three shows ago. Three shows ago he blocked you. I don't know, man. This is going to be a great game. All due respect to Denver Broncos,

so I think are fun as fuck to watch. It's, Courtney Sutton. Sutton's going to have a little want to drop a little revenge from last year. He had a couple drops in the big spots. You know, we jumped out to that big lead, seven points with Bo Nix hitting Troy Franklin. And I think we got a little something to say. Is Josh Allen losing to Bo Nix worse than losing to Trevor Lawrence? If he lost to Bo Nix, I would probably frame it as not losing to Bo Nix. Yeah.

I'm trying to imagine the circus. And it probably has a lot to do with that defense. You know, is it worse? No, because the unrelenting shit talk would be less. Like Reed would be like, a good game. You're going to be outside my house. It's better for us. He's actually been a Broncos fan for longer than one season.

Oh, that's why you get blocked. Yeah, exactly. Bo. Both keep saying that. but like he's blocking him it's not blocking bro he puts out false narratives oh i put out false narrative oh i do that uh you jump teams all season oh i'm a bucks fan no i don't even like the we don't need to go back here i'm a english fan dude sunday night football so buddy so here's me okay i just glazed one of my favorite quarterbacks here's a guy this year that i said was playing

the best quarterback relative to what he had around him and that's justin her Well, it wasn't good enough. This was not good enough. Okay, and I just, like, it's kind of funny because you're addressing a room full of people. I have no idea what you look like. I have no idea who's your favorite team. I don't know how many Chargers fans are in here. I don't know how many Herbert haters there are, how many people that think he sucks,

how many people think they're good. I'm just going to be as honest as I can. I don't know where to start. I'll start with Herbert, but the blame is shared. Here's where I think he could have been better, because I think there's a big story coming out of the game. And I don't want anybody to be like, man, you took a while to get to Herbert, your favorite quarterback. I just got done with my favorite quarterback.

There weren't a lot of plays to be made in phase in this game, and the offensive line was atrocious. But there were multiple opportunities to win this game or to draw close in this game. And he didn't make him. And a lot of them were off script. And so if you want to be one of those dudes, which I've been saying, hey, he's got all the tools to be one of those dudes. is he playing like one of those dudes in the regular season? And I know that he's 0 and 3 and you had the terrible collapse against Jacksonville,

which I don't put it all on a quarterback. I maintain that that was a, man, that's a whole team thing. I know that he was awful last year against Houston. And I looked at this game twice now. And Patriots are a good football team. And defensively they made them look silly. but there were plays off schedule that Justin could have made and throws he could have made to put them in this game.

And the second play of the game, McConkey would score. McConkey would score. That's circulating. I am almost to the point where I don't look at like, you know, tweets or highlights. I turn the film on blind, truly trying to give the guy a chance.

I'm not listening to the, I'm not on Reddit. You know, sometimes I see how fans are doing on Reddit. I turn the game on the second play of the game. I'm like, Bacocki scores. If his eyes are downfield, he scores. And it's a field goal ball game for 45 minutes. And so it wouldn't have taken 30 points to win this game.

Was it fair that he's in this situation with Greg Roman calling the plays or that offensive line? And Chris Collins were at one point last night was like, you know, he's got to make a play. You know, it's not even about the offensive line. The next snap, it was like a wall of bodies, dude. It was like a damn broke and a bunch of Milton Williams just fell on him. And then there was the chase on hit, which was so violent. I mean, it is bad up front.

And it was hard to operate. And when you look at the sideline, there's not a lot of guys open. But once the play broke down in the second half multiple times on the right sideline, if you want to be one of those dudes, I didn't make the rules up and I didn't design the 2025 chargers. I didn't get alt hurt. I didn't get fucking Rishon Slater hurt.

I didn't get the two running backs hurt, but it is what it is. I'm just telling you how it is, you got to hit those throws. Chris, I think the biggest... You got to hit those throws. And I know it would have taken one or two maybe to pull you within a score,

but you got to hit those throws. those throws. We can get to Greg Roman in a second because I think if Harbaugh brings him back, that's questionable as fuck. And I'm a Roman fan and everything, but I didn't like the way he called the game at all, at all. And the offensive line's got to be retooled. But Herbert, for his part in it, has to play better. You're 0 and 3 in the playoffs right now. And I went to bat for him. I still think I'm going to shut the fuck up until he plays in the playoffs. again, and I'll believe in him then if he's got a full deck. But until then, people can say whatever they want.

Like, it's hard to beat the allegations when you're O'N3. This is something I saw. At present, Justin Herbert is the sixth quarterback to be winless in NFL postseason with at least three losses. Herbert ties the Colts, Bert Jones, Patriots, Steve Grogan and Saints Bobby A. Bear at 0 and 3. Only the Bengals, Andy Dalton, and Giants and 49ers Y-A. Tittle are worse at 0-and-4. Herbert was previously tied with 13 other QBs who were 0-2, including Mitch Trubisky, Ken O'Brien, Scott Mitchell, and others. I hear you. It took Stafford a long time,

and Josh Allen, you talk about playoff losses, but I showed you the production, and I know he's had a tough draw with the defenses, but you got to make those play. plays. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I was really disappointed with Herbert after that pick, the tart deflection that I think they started on like the like the 20 or something. Like they they had good field position to start and those are only three points of the game. I think it was second down. They called a design quarterback run with him and it looked like he had some space, man, and he just got stuck, you know? Yeah. And it's like you see, you know, he's going to draw a lot of Josh Allen comparisons, especially that game was on, you know, right after and all that kind of

shit. It's like, I just would have liked to see him fucking go through the guy. Like, he's a big, Justin Herbert's a big man. You know what I mean? I think Josh wins that game. Yeah. If you're asking. No, I know. I'm just saying like I was disappointed to see him not score on that, on that design quarterback run right there in a critical moment after after a takeaway. Yeah. They started that possession and goal to go. Yeah. They were right there. And they went three and out and kicked a field goal, right? Yeah. Bruel. They went, the charges went 0 for two in the reds. zone, which was significant in this game because the Patriots are real good in the red zone. 30.

So that's where you lose the game. And when Greg Roman sits there, what we got? Nolan's at the Jag is that Everbank Stadium pool. Oh, God, look at him. He's in the pool? Well, I'm swimming. Swimming. So listen, I just want to be really clear for y'all.

This is me, this is me. Hey, there's some people waiting for, hey, what do you think about Herbert? Again, when he's in it, when he's in the dance next time, I hope that he's got his tackles and his running backs and they're better. But one thing you're not going to have is Jesse Minner. Yeah. Because he's going to get hired away and this defense was great. I think the Greg Roman thing is it's a travesty putting any quarterback in this offense. Third and two in the red zone, you can't run the ball. That's pretty obvious to me early in the game. Yeah. And you just bury it into the belly and then kick a field goal, dude. And I'm all for like feeling the game and

saying, okay, this is going to be a field goal game. But to me, when you get down in there, saying what Nolan just said, hey, they're not, you've got to be more aggressive. You get three quarterback runs, whether they were called or not called. You end up running the ball three times your first time down there, and then rolling them out. Sure, do I feel for Herbert? But I'm not going to argue with the trolls all of next year. I'm going to wait for the playoffs and hope he can do what he hasn't done so far in this

career because I think he's got it in his body. but does he have it up here? We'll see. It's hard on anybody to play behind an offensive line like that. He was getting killed last night. And do you think that because he played 17 games against that offensive line and he got hit as many times as he did, that has to factor into his when he's looking,

when he's trying to progress through his reads and he's looking down field, that has to be in the back of his mind to where he has to look and see, hey, double-checked if somebody's on his back and he might miss an open guy down the field. For sure, your eyes go down. And that's the point with the early Latmanconchi play, which, and he picked up like 10, 11 yards on that play. But like, there's an explosive there.

And the stuff on the right sideline, which I'm not accustomed to seeing him miss those throws, which to me, like, if the game had ended 1610, and he didn't miss some of those throws rolling right or latent it down, I'd have said, hey, I'd be sitting right here saying, hey, they get the worst fucking offensive line I've ever seen. I mean, the Keenan Allen drop was bad, but the pre-snap penalties were crazy. Guys are rocking out of their stances.

Look, they never played in the NFL before. I got all that. If you want to be one of those guys, though, it's not always going to be perfect, right? And we're not sitting here giving Jalen Hertz slack. I'm not giving him any slack, and he's won a fucking Super Bowl. So I'm just being as fair as I can. Do I think Justin Herbert is a better quarterback? I do.

Right now at this very moment, I do. but I'm not giving Jalen Hertz any slack. I'm not going to give Justin Herbert as much slack. I got to call balls and strikes. Now, to the other team, the Patriots, they're an adult fucking football team. It's a very Mike Brable football team. Surprise, surprise. Milton Williams makes a big difference.

You could see that last night. I mean, I mean, and you kind of get in this game where it becomes one-dimensional. once you're down two scores. And it was like the floodgates open, and a lot of it was Milton closing that game out on fourth down is very very on the nose for him because I think he's been as big a piece for this defense. He had two sacks.

I mean, they didn't call it, but the one that he was, I think he was trying to knock the ball out on Herbert and just fucking drilled him right in the helmet. He ended up going down on that. But like, dude, he's disruptive, man. And their run defense has been very good earlier in the season. and then they lost Milton and it suffered a little bit

and then just getting him back for the playoffs is so, so big and I mean, let's, you know, just talking about the Patriots, the Chargers defense is fucking good. Yes. Like, they're good. Yes, they've been good. That's why their defensive coordinator is going to be gone.

They're going to have to replace him, you know? And so people are like, oh, Drake Man only scored 16 points. He looked fucking good, though. I mean, like, I think the one thing I was really impressed with him is just taking what's there with his feet. Like, he had a scramble. that was shit man 37 yards yeah that was critical i don't think he played that well i don't think he played that well that's the MVP so that's the point is like yeah all it takes a couple throws to beat

the MVP you didn't make them yeah i know it's not just you drake drake made the throws he had to make and i'd be as fair as i can on this yeah but i mean like yeah just small things like the the what they were backed up and got the ball to remandre stevenson for a big like stevenson's big that was huge got caught the blitz and they dropped He played really well. Like the moment didn't, like it wasn't his best game, but the moment didn't look too big for it for Drake May. He looked like he belonged.

And I thought he did, you know, well enough, especially this feat is where I was impressed to. Backed up. They made some big plays. That third down to Hunter Henry, it's nine to three at that point in the game. Urban Schweld backed up. There was also a play at midfield where they're up nine to three and they can make it a two-score game.

And I think at this point, if he gets sacked, it might be second and 17, and he gets out of the sack. He picks up the first down. They're at the 40-yard line. Like, you know, I, listen, I'm not taking anything away. I, the left side of that offensive line might be an issue going forward. Yeah.

I mean, that's a really good group they just played. Yep. But if you play Houston this week, oh boy. Like, that's going to be tough. That's going to be tough. I think Will Campbell would make a fucking fun, like, I'm not. Phenomenal guard. You're trying to move into guard.

I'm trying to figure out a way to say this and not. good tackle he's a good tackle i think he would be an absolute fucking 15 year all proa guard like just his i don't know his strength you just saw him get moved a little bit on brushes don't get me wrong like those rushers for the chargers are really really good and i'm not writing off will campbell at all or anything like that it wasn't his best game but damn man i look at him sometimes i'm like you are you would be a fucking dog in the inside yeah yeah i think like to your point about menors defense bow with what they do so well in terms of taking away the big play it was this felt or like coming back to the the golf club analogy earlier we used with caleb like for drake

this was a chipping-weds cutter game yeah did just enough yeah enough what they need to do especially the dump downs to the backs like you mentioned and while we're talking about their defense i want to give fucking tire tarts and love i think he is so good he's been really good all year talked a little bit about that batted ball that led to the short field that resulted in the Chargers field goal. But other than that, like three pressures, two TFLs. Prior to Sunday's game on defense, this was a stat Nolan gave me. They had 26% rushing success rate with him on the field, which is a fucking big jump. He's just a stud.

They got some really good players in their defensive front seven for the Chargers. I'm very interested to see who they end up with as a coordinator. because all roads are kind of pointing to mentor leaving but you just can't compare i know we're kind of going back but like you can't compare this setup because josh is such a pro oce yeah and they have what they've always had is safety valves intermediate passing game short quick passing game they don't really i mean that's not something they were doing last night i don't think they have huge playmakers though offensively like okay macaon he is he number one i guess no you know I don't think so.

Probably not. You know, I'm just looking here. It's like three receptions for McConaughey. Gatson's pretty good. Three for Gadsden. Three for Allen. Two for Vidal. The problem is when Gonzalez is on the field, he erases somebody.

Right. And so Gonzalez, who's out with a concussion. That's what it was. And we'll see what happens. But like the break on the ball where he ends up with a concussion. Yeah. Like when you play a team like that, when the charges play a team like that, like it's going to be hard for them.

They don't have a lot of weapons. The offensive line's not great. again, Greg Roman. Greg Roman in the playoffs, okay, he's brought in to be a run game guy. Exactly. 30, what, 30 rushes for like 80 yards the last two years? Because they're a lot of dogs.

They don't run the ball. Yeah. Remember last year early in the game? They settled for field goals early in that game. And they end up getting the doors blown off him. I'm not saying it's all Herbert's fault. But what I am saying is he had to play better in those little spots. and Drake May, although I don't think he was great last night,

his first fucking start in the playoffs. I got to give him some credit. And he's 1-0 and the defense played great. Spillane came up after the game. Did you hear this thing? Yeah, yeah. Spillane said they're running. They're wondering what kind of coverage.

The guys are coming up to him and saying, we don't know what you're in. So you got to give CORE. What's the name? Zach CORE. A lot of credit. He wasn't even supposed to be a defensive coordinator. It's also an indictment on the offensive coordinator in L.A. So, you know, again, I think the pads are an adult football team.

They got a real serious defense of Gonzalez is on the field. They're great. I think more people will pick on Carlton Davis in the future, but they didn't really have the horses to do that. I think the backers can be got, but they didn't have the horses to do that, right? And I think on the other side, like, that was probably one of the most beautiful sequences of football when it was Henley on a blitz. Henderson clips his outside leg. He pirouettes. He's spinning to try to get to Drake May.

He can't get to him. It's just like, you've got just enough. And then just a lob over Darwin James and slow motion in my head. It was just like that was incredible. So the Pats, man, a lot of fun to watch. Tough football team, very Vrabble football team. I love watching Vrabble dab people up on the way back into the locker room. It's like, yeah.

So, I mean, you know, you can't take anything away from that team. To you, what's the most compelling matchup for the Patriots? The Steelers or the Texans? Stealers. Compelling? So you're saying, like, best game? Yeah. I think Texans.

I think Texans, yeah. But the challenges that they pose, if New England was able to beat them, it's like, wow. Yeah. I think Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, how many, who turned it over, like, six times. New England turned it over like six times in that game at home, which feels like eight years ago. We weren't sure who they were. And they almost beat them. I think they're in the red uniforms, right? They were in the red. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they turn it over a million times and they almost beat them. So I'm not saying, I'm not saying anything for sure. I think it's

going to be interesting no matter what. But, but yeah, it's going to be a long off season for people like me, again, who think Justin Herbert has what it takes. I'm going to have to whisper a little bit more. like I said I was going to puffing my chest out hey we're at the big boys table talking about Justin Herbert I'm still on him man I'm on him too but this isn't a are you on him you're off him I just feel like he's got no one around it man do you have any ammunition after that game yeah don't no no we can't say shit like he didn't play that well but it's like also I was I was really impressed with Zach here yeah core yeah yeah core yeah bro they blitzed him because I'm looking at this game in the second or sorry third and fourth quarters it just felt like they're in like

zero blitz forever. And Noel pulled this out. They blitz him 47% of the time, which was significant jump up from 32% at previous points in the year. So like I think to me that basically says like, hey, we know that Justin Herbert is the guy that we want to put him on a clock. We know their O line is weak. We want to make their O line have to communicate, you know, all these blitzes, these exotic or these zero blitzes. And let's put Justin Herbert on a clock and make him beat us. Oh, yeah, why not? That's exactly, it's the perfect thing to do.

And what you get is the result is you get, when they played Jacksonville earlier this year, Jacksonville just fucking owned them. Yeah. And this was the same kind of game where it just felt like they couldn't do anything. This was less. It didn't feel like they ever fucking even had a chance, man. It felt to me in pregame like they had a chance. Right.

Because I thought that he would hit more off-script plays. Yeah. It's a low-scoring ball game. You got to do the great things. And he didn't do any great things. I know I wanted so much more out of it. I wanted him to do the great things. He didn't.

It's okay. It's okay to like a quarterback, go to bat for the quarterback, for the quarterback to lose in the playoffs, and you just got to wait a year. I wanted the Chargers to win and then go to Denver and then have the bills get a home game at Highmark. I thought that would be so cool. But, I mean, I think the Patriots are also,

it's fun to watch Drake, May. Like, he just seems like such a normal dude. Did you see after the game, he said his whole family was in town? And he said he was going to be out with his brothers to, like, 1.30 playing ping pong? Let's go. That's cool. Drake's,

if the, if the chargers are to make a change at OC, is there anybody who comes to mind for you? Is a good candidate? Yes, I texted you at midnight last night. This is what I'm glad you. Hey,

midnight. I'm fucking passing out last night. I texted Nolan who's staying at my house. McDaniels to the Chargers. Yes. Mike McDaniel. That makes me wet. Mike McDaniel to the Chargers,

singular McDaniel. Yeah. Mike McDaniel to the Chargers. Okay. You want to run the football? here's a guy who's actually done it the last couple years at a high level you can bring a chan too yeah if mike mcdaniel ended up in l a also be hilarious because all the two of people that were like yeah her not as good as two a mcdiel would be like i kind of fucking like this this guy is like this guy's got it

all if not mcdaniel i think stefansky would also be good there i like stefancy's going to be a head coach it's so funny to me everybody's like oh because he was Meade Shador. I just have to imagine. Coach of the year two fucking times. Some people I've talked to are like, yeah, but like he hasn't been good. I'm like, yeah, they gave him Deshaun Watson to work with. And everything that comes with that and the roster depletion that comes with that.

I won a playoff game in Cleveland. He won a fucking playoff game. I just self-ish wouldn't want him to be an OC. I think it'd be very nice. Like, okay, you're a head coach of a fucking dumpster fire like that. It'd be kind of nice to become, you know, go back and be an OC. Maybe. I can imagine. I don't know. But I like Sifansky. I mean, what other names have been kind of linked? Can you imagine the personalities in that building? Can you imagine? In Harbaugh and McDaniel? That's like having like a, oh, mad. Yeah, like a hippie mom and a military father.

I believe that. Yeah. Like a military dad and a hippie mom. The locker room. That's a sitcom, dude. They have the same tism, like in the love football. It's a little different. Love of football and. A little different. It's a little different. They'd bring out the best in each other.

Harbaugh, I'd be like, who's got it better than us? And McTamiel would be like, we're one day closer to death. Exactly. It's yin and yang, dude. It's yin and yang. And honestly, I think the scheme would work very well there. X's and O's will be fired. They do have over $100 million in caps facing.

They're going to spend a little money. They're going to shore up that. offensive line and talking about new offensive coordinators. Go get a playmaker. Go get a tight end. Go get likely. Somebody said he ruined the Baker relationship with Stavansky. I still think, and to no fault of his

own, because he's a receiver, it just happens. But I think Odell possibly did that. Remember Odell was like super anti-Baker? And Odell had all the juice. Like he was, Odell, like, dudes on teams grew up watching Odell. Like, Odell is like a cultural

icon, dude. So like if the lock if the locker room hears that odell does not fuck with baker the locker room's going against baker at that point in this career i i don't think it was necessarily all stepansky i think it was baker getting hurt and uh i think it was also unhappy receivers but jim harvoe was asked after the game he was asked twice brother greg roman was the right play caller moving forward he said right now i don't have the answers we're going to look at it at everything it really falls on me that answers, brother. That we wasn't at our, weren't at our best tonight. I don't have the answers. I wish I did. We'll work hard. It'll be a new beginning. I don't have that answer right now. I know you're being very specific. We weren't good enough as a team. That's what we do. We win as a team. We lose as a team. That's a team in a better position. As you said, Jim Harbaugh, listen to, Chris, he's got the answer for you to have the team in a better position. It's Mike McDaniel. Yeah, it's Mike McDaniel. What about Dave's? Huh? Dave'll. Dave's, sure. But I, but Dave's,

You know, Dave's a little mean in a good way? Yeah. Like, maybe that would work. I don't know. But I don't mean to... The position of mean when someone's coach is mean. Dable can be a little, it seems... Just means he was on the Patriots staff.

No, no, it's a different kind of mean. It's like if he doesn't like you, you might, your confidence might hurt because of being around him a lot. I think the Daniel Jones thing taught me a lot. But also, like, Look at what, like, Stuyken did for Danny Dimes compared to, like, it looked like sometimes Daibel was like, the way I look at Willie, my dog. You know what I'm saying? Like, what the fuck are you doing, man?

You know, like, you just ate shit outside. We still got a place to live. Yeah, but you get, like, we- Feeding you. Oh, man. And Daible gets his quarterbacks hit a lot. That's another really good point. So it's, um, and I'll just say this.

I love Greg. I have a soft spot for Greg Roman. because some of my favorite football memories were on the other side of that thing when he was in San Francisco and they used to just fucking, they used to bring the gap scheme. Taking on kick out. Bullies. Yeah, I just loved doing it. So I was like, oh, he felt like football.

And he paid me such a good compliment. I love Greg Roman. He called me a rolling ball of butcher knives. Oh, that's good. I need to get that one framed. I love Greg Roman. But I don't love the way he's running this offense. It feels like it's a little dated.

It's a little dated. Yeah. Like calling me a roll ball of butcher night. No, that's fucking sick. I'm not that anymore. I used to, what was that? Fuck. Those games were like 60 minutes of inside run.

Oh, they were so fun, dude. I love when coaches, the best coach compliment is this guy's a war daddy. War daddy. War daddy. You hear that? You're just like, you know, the Grinch. They're like, his heart grew three times in size. Pretty much.

So an old head coach calls you a war daddy. You want to just. There you go. Yeah. So this, 2012, Roman received more chuckles at the press conference when he referred to Rams defensive end, Chris Long as a rolling ball of butchern eyes. I love you, Greg, but I don't know if you, I don't know if you're the right fit right now, dude. That's awesome.

He's affectionately known as G-Roe by his players. I really like G-Row, but you got to, somebody's got to answer for that thing. And I think that quarterback's pretty, again, you're going to say, well, what roof do you have? I'll just wait. I'll just wait. It reminds me of, like, we're going to have secret handshakes and shit and do like, like we're like um it's like gonna be McCarthyism and we're like communist you know don't say that shit too loud right now no i know i don't mean it like that like literally but

i feel kind of an effort for Greg roman man because it's like the vision that they had for that offense was just fucked from jumps early season with injuries o line injuries running back injuries and then the vision that you have that you're trying to execute the plan you put in place you're just flying by the seat of your pants on a weekly basis trying to figure out how to get it though. Here's the last thing. Patriots should be really excited about having a kicker like Boragallus because he's not right, Aiden, Aidan's back there, Pat's fan. He doesn't fucking miss. He's not been in the playoffs before. He didn't miss. That's a really good start for him. I also want to shout out Chazon, who has been a very good pass rusher for them. He was at Sack Summit this offseason.

And you could really tell he was working on his craft. And he's having to be a lot of. And he's a really good year. It's, Brable brings out the best thing got. Anthony Jennings, too. Seven pressures yesterday for Chase-on. That's a full day. How many pressures total? 37 total pressures, a 56% pressure rate. That's why I could not believe it when Harbaugh, or when, uh,

Collinsworth was like, he's just got to do something. Now, I know I'm giving kind of the same critique today, but not as flatly. There's some nuance here. That's a lot of fucking pressures. You just, if you want to be one of the guys, you've got to make one of those special plays. Yeah. They were there. There was a couple there.

So we'll put the charges to bed. Ring, ring. We've got the zone locals landline and zone is calling you right now. Oh, he thinks he's getting the call. With an ad read zone is calling. Oh, really? Somewhere over there. Okay.

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Kevin Petulow, Mr. IQ is too low, I've got to, Gio. And that is go. I'm over it. We beat it like a dead horse. I'm thinking about Dr. Facts and the Jad's loss. Sorry for your lost doctor. But my goodness gracious, Petulow has got to go. Go birds.

He does have to go. Not wrong, Rick. Rick, thanks for the call, man. You know, uh, yeah, it's tough, man. It's tough this time of year because, like, I'm sure Petula is cool as fuck.

It's just, and that's the chance you take when you coach football on national TV. Whole city can hate you forever, and maybe you're a totally good guy. Maybe you did your best. You put your work out there for everybody to say. Yeah, dude, but, you know,

that's the heavy as the head that wears the, the crown. Whatever the crown for me lately. You want to be like Bo, where you can just show up, take a shower, you know, nobody's evaluating your play, you know. Well, I mean, I did get a lot of

shit for that, but. I will say, I do feel for anybody, no matter what they do in their job, if a bar in Philadelphia puts their face on a golf simulator and allows patrons to come and hit golf balls straight to the dome. Is that what they're doing? Like this, right here.

Business genius. That's a genius. That's a genius. business strategy. Yeah, he, listen, he's gonna go. He gives him a little punk

at the end, watch this. Smashes it. But you know, it would be so funny though, that that fucking ball just ricochet

back in the person. Ring, ring, calling number two. Yeah, dude, I'm literally watching this past game. Literally, first quarter,

six minutes in the game, zero, zero. We're going to lose this game. And I've already decided I'm drunk

as fuck. I won't lose this game. We get it the best traffic possible. We're not winning this Super Bowl, dude. Like, it's over. Don't air this if we win. If we win, do not fucking air this shit. We'll not claim this, but I will tell my friends that I was on the pod.

All right, please. Tell your friends, you're on the pod. You're on the pod. Exactly. That was a. Hey, congrats. You got the dub. Aiden was in the bathroom at Christmas House leaving the message.

No, Aiden was feeling good about the whole thing the whole time. Remember May threw that ball? And here's the thing about May didn't play perfect. Like, you ended up with the overthrow to Henry at the goal line. I don't think anybody was, you know, that in phase open for Herbert all night. And then he's short at the sticks in the flat and they have to kick a field goal. but when he overthrew Henry fucking Aiden in the back of the room goes

Cookies That's so good The best threw was Mondre Cougies Let's go Mondre Aden's a very fucking good Pat's fan though He's like very knowledgeable

He's chill about it He's not arrogant about it He's fucking cool about it He understands he had the best run At the beginning of his life Of any football fan out there Yeah He knows what's good

Ring ring collar number three All right. Take three. I've been drinking, but I'm mad. I'm mad. Because why the fuck does that game just happen? Why the fuck? The steam sucks. So, nope, we're going to have a you take four. This caller called in six times. Shout out to him.

Is he calling about the Eagles? Yeah, that was about the Eagles. That was call number three of six. Here, let me put a positive spin on. on it for you. This was going to end. You just you save yourself a week or two weeks, God forbid,

or God forbid, you go to the NFC championship game and you think we're going to win this thing. We weren't. And then the other thing is it forces the Band-Aid to get ripped off. Because being an Eagles fan, like being a fan of any NFL team, is a lifelong endeavor.

You know, right? So there's next year and next year is even sooner now. And there will be an even bigger impetus to fix things, which is kind of what I've been asking for all year. Heading into the BetMGM moments. We've got a message from BetMGM, and then we're going to name the best flight worst flight.

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What are you doing now? The moments? Yeah, we're picking Best Flight and Worst Flight. And just to recap real fast, Best Flight, Chris had the best flight. Buffalo Bills. Bo had the L.A. Rams and Nate had A.J. Brown worst flight. Chris had Justin Herbert. Bo had Matt LaFleur and Nate had the Chargers offensive line.

Tanner, your vote for best flight. A.J. Brown. Jay Brown. Nolan. You know with the Buffalo Bills. That's unfortunate. I was going to pick the Rams. Oh, three-way tie.

Yeah. Everybody gets a point. Oh. Everybody gets a point. Give you, Aiden, a tiebreaker. Yeah, Aiden. Yeah, Aiden. Best flight

Bills, Rams, or A.J. Brown. A.J. Brown. All right. Boom. I was right. Let's go. All right. Worst flight. Take that, Nolan. Justin Herbert from Chris, Bo had

Matt LaFleur and Nate had Chargers O-Line. Nolan. It is Matt LaFleur. Worse flight. I'm going Justin Herbert. That is Matt LaFle-Fle-Fle-Hle. Hell yeah. LaFleur wasn't going back to

Madison B or was he? No. We don't know for certain. Well, yeah, yeah, that's true. We don't, we don't know. We don't know where that plane ratted to. Beville Conway. What if he just flew to the Bahamas?

I'll skip the exit meetings. Yeah, just fuck you all. He's like, fuck these guys. It's not even my fault. What if he just took the plane to the Bahamas? Everybody lands in the Bahamas. He gets off. Yeah.

They fly back to Korea. Yeah. I mean, that'd be fun. Stop. Um, Delval Conway. I got. Coimway, bare down going to Caleb Williams, wearing the cheese grater while grading cheese after breeding Green Bay in the playoffs.

We had some pizza last night speaking cheese. That was good. That pizza slap. And some lasagna. That lasagna was great. Yeah, you guys didn't clean it up. It's just sitting there. No, we got it this morning.

Yeah. Oh, you did? We had breakfast lasagna. Are you serious? Shout out to Chris's lovely wife, Meg. Yeah, we ate it all. You guys ate the lasagna that was sitting out all night? Yeah.

All of it. All of it. That's all of it. You know, there's little things about Chris that shows how rich you are. Why? Rich people like hate the thought of leftovers or something. I love leftovers. Yeah, but it's like, it wasn't left out that long.

No, it was just the principle of like, you guys come to my house. I buy you food. I pay everyone. And then my wife cooks. lasagna and it's you know you got the leftovers and then it's out and then this morning I walk in to get my stuff

and I didn't eat any lasagna and the lasagna's just sitting there it really has nothing to do with leftovers lasagna was delicious lasagna was delicious it was delicious. It got it. Phenomenal. But you know it's a rich guy thing? Come on. Bebble Conway. You rich

can I give my Bevel Conway? Yeah. They're like huge messes. Rich people don't like lasagna. Bevel Conway, my Bevel Conway is Mike Ravel's bloody lip at the end of the game against the charges last night. Fucking Milton Williams, huge sack,

walk off, basically, and then just to see how hype Braves was on the sideline, head button, Milton Williams, getting that bloody lip going around, going to the bench, showing it to him. What did he say? I know you'd say that. I know you'd say that. Bloody, I love you. Yeah. Like that? Yeah. So good.

Chris Bevel? it is the Atlanta Falcons announcing that they are getting rid of those awful uniforms those things are some of the worst things I've ever seen on a football field the Atlanta Falcons uniforms the last five years yeah they're pretty bad they're not as bad as the fucking digital bucks unies we wore no but they're not much worse they're bad these are really bad and they should go away and it was almost so shocking Cowboys going to throw it up. The Falcons.

It's the right thing. It's so the right thing that I'm shocked they did it. We've gotten to that point with uniforms in the NFL. They need to go back to throwbacks. That's such a dramatic video. Yeah, right. April 2026. Something to look forward to.

Yeah. Falcons fans. Kirk is going to look stuff sick. Don't get cute. Just go back to what you had. Don't try to create anything new. God, if they do some bullshit. Don't try to draw up a new play.

You don't know. No Wildcat in the Red Zone, nothing like that. What if their coach has a minute? No, and where are you invading? Next. I don't know what this is about. Okay. I'm not setting this background.

The people's president. Hold on, hold on. Congress, mongrish. Oh, there he is. All that leftover lasagna is running through you. You go somewhere. Go to do the pot from here. Bellwell Conway

My vote is Falcons new Unis Nolan A second vet Tanner Who cares Damn That's how I feel Rable Blood

I mean Rember bloody Yeah yeah Yeah it doesn't matter I thought we do a total tally That where the ties Come into play And

No no no Talk about ties around here Makin It'll pop up and say No it's wrong I fuck your face Fuck your face You guys

to me on Friday night. It's unreal. Saturday night, yeah. Uh, anti-Belva Conway. Chris? I'll let you guys go first. I got one. My anti-bevelcomway, we watched the Jags Bills game. It's fun. You know, we live streamed. On the broadcast, they kept cutting to that damn pool with the people in it. It was brutal. It just, you feel like you're watching a human aquarium of just fat Jags fans, you know, and it's the water just displays. It's, you know, and it's the water just displacing their bodies. They cut to a kid who was wearing pants. He was wearing pants in there.

That was awesome. Inexplicably wearing pants in the pool. I get it. Your child, you know, not trying to crush you too bad for that, but just didn't look good, man. Like,

give me some, give me some beefcakes in there, some little, you know, some Jacksonville hotties or something. I don't know. It's just a bad look. I love that the,

when you're not finishing with beefcakes. When you're on the field, you look up at that pool, the tropical smoothie cafe, sign is right behind the pool. That's geeky. Tropical smoothie? I just thought of a bad luck.

Nothing less healthy than tropical smoothie, but posing is healthy, dude. Pure sugar. That's the vitamin water of smoothies. There's some woman right now that's going to tropical smoothie every day to get her figure right, and she doesn't know how much tropical smoothie is trash.

We're never getting a fucking tropical smoothie deal. But we wouldn't want it anyway. We want a mountain dude, code red deal. No. You don't like them? He goes, you don't like tropical smoothie? This is a balls and strikes day.

We're calling balls and strikes. Hey! Tropical smoothie is tropical as Grock. Grog is tropical smoothie healthy? Tropical smoothies can be healthy. Classic non-answer from Grock here. Yeah, no, that was like Google. Made anti-bevel.

Anti-bevel. Hmm. All right. I'm giving the anti-bevel to Rick Carlyle sending Boogie Cousins selfies trying to recruit him in the past to join his NBA team. What the fuck? He was sending, he was recruiting Boogie, and instead of just sending the text, he would send a text,

and it would be an awkward text. selfie included in the text. Oh, man. Boogie Cousins said he'd send me weird selfies and say, I'm thinking about you and I really want to coach you. Oh, that's crazy. That's my dude. That's my dude.

I see him at 7-Eleven. Really? I saw him at 7-Eleven one night. Rick feels like he's kind of like horrible in the coaching sense. Yeah, this could be a boomer mistake. Yeah. For real.

Like, I can see it. Oh, it's definitely a boomer mistake. For sure. Yeah. But it doesn't make it. less weird. It doesn't make it less weird. Man, let Rick live, man.

I want to coach you selfie. Yeah. Chris, anti-bevel. Anti-bevel, God, I can't decide between, I think I'll go, I think I will go, I'm sorry,

Jags Teal, they should award the throwbacks. Right? Thank God. in the last week. Just this pile of a pile it on. No, I've just to be fair.

You've been piling out on us, man. No, and don't even don't, don't bite the cheese. I just don't really have one and you're sitting right there and I look at you and I think about the Jags. The Bears hasn't,

the Bears helmet hasn't sunk in yet. So I'm still associating with you with the Jags. I do just off the top of mine. Panthers, remember? I was going to throw in Panthers. Yeah, go ahead. Do it. I even look to see.

see like what Houston was wearing this this evening it looks like they're wearing all white are they wearing all white whatever you do Houston no no they're not wearing all white they should wear those psycho reds

like the all red yeah but they can't wear those because Pittsburgh I don't think you can in the playoffs but I'll tell you what they shouldn't ever wear those fucking H-town they're all white tonight I can't they're all white all white tonight okay they're fine. I'll do the Jags teal just because like man that could have lit. Jack's not wearing teal. Yeah. No, Jags teal is ugly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The throwbacks, the

throwbacks, the Clyde Simmons. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not winning. Tanner first pick. Jacks teal, jaggers pool, Rick Carlisle. Everybody's just to a. Gags teal. Oh, wow. Yeah, I really, I really, enthusiastic. Nolan. I'm going to the Jags. It's to the pool. the Bose pick Bo's pick Yeah okay that's where I am Yep

Jack's pool Really weird shots Yeah Yeah Just look It was like an Underneath angle Yeah

It was weird Who were these four Yeah Nobody wants to see this Like that pool could be sick Yeah You know

Best seat Best seat Nate Best seat Best seat Best seat Best seat Forty 49ers power facility

They probably The The The The narrative Let me hear you thread this needle. The narrative might hear change soon. If the 49ers keep winning, whoever wrote that substack.

Superpowers. You know, that person was like, see? At George Kittle yesterday, I'm like, bro. This is the problem with really smart people. They have no social awareness. And so, hey, and you know how football fans are, even if this stuff is true. If the 49ers, if they find a way to win the Super Bowl, they're going to be like, Like, keep that fucking facility right there.

Keep those power waves pumping. And let's go get another Super Bowl. So best seat. That's a good one. I'm still putting it together. I'm still putting it together. Can I do best seat? John Harbaugh.

John Harbaugh is watching. He's like, holy shit, half the league is going to be fired. And I am the bell of the ball. everybody that wants some like some fucking stability like i'm the classic stability guy there's a lot of openings there's i think this year might be up there as far as like i don't know how many not a lot of years you get double digits we're going to have what is this this right this is mike mac daniel yeah yeah that's my yeah that's pretty good but i think harball he's sitting there thinking like man i got my pick bro i got my pick

he's king of the castle and and he's probably he's the type of guy those harbaugh brothers are the type of guys that are like good my brother lost you know what i'm saying you'd know that type of brother i know i'm not that type of brother okay i'm not that type of guy no all right best seat chris you're talking about the coaching carousel the bell of the ball and the coaching carousel my best seat is mike macdaniel vibing at magic kingdom on a carousel. Look at him cheesing, bro. Oh, he's happy, dude. I hit the old enhance on that. He's, he's wearing like some Gucci sweatsuit. Is that a Gucci sweatsuit? Yeah. Just viving on the carousel with the shades on. And the best part is like, if you go to the other photo I say, you cowboy, this is a guy who's like

sticks to his guns, man. He is always wearing the short pants. Oh, he's got the short pants. He's got the short pants. He likes to have his ankles out, bro. Yeah. And he's getting some son at at Magic Kingdom. Incidentally, not too far from Tampa. So some speculation about that because they fired a Grizard. Probably interviewed McDaniel for that Tampa OC spot.

Bucky Irving go crazy. All right, that's my vote. Mike McDaniel, best seat. Be careful. You say that. What happened? Yeah, yeah. Mike McDaniel is my best seat.

Tanner, who's your best seat? Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel. I'll vote for McDaniel. John Harbaugh is sitting pretty. Good for him. That picture is great vibes. Awesome vibes.

Worst seat. I got one. We did a lengthy live stream last night. It's not going to be anything. Lengthy live stream, you know, at the long household. And Chris gets a call from his pops and they're chatting, talking football, all things football Sunday, wildcar weekend, yada, yada, yada. Chris's old man says, oh, what, like, who? Who's over there?

What are you doing? Chris turns a camera to me. So I'm here with Bo. I think Nate had left at that point. And Howie immediately starts laying in him. He's like, what did I see you doing at the Eagles game covered in Vaseline?

I felt like I was getting yelled at my dad. Like I was a kid. Let me ask you a question. Yeah. Whenever he starts with, let me ask you a question. I started to sweat, man. I was just trying to make some money,

Howie. Imagine let me ask you a question when you're like in trouble. Oh, God. Oh man, when I used to get to let me ask you a question, and like whatever you want the answer to be, bro. Yeah, seriously. Just fucking send me to my room.

Fucking. The best outcome there could be. So. Yeah, I got got out a little bit by Mr. Howie Long and rightfully so. I was vast up acting a fool at the link. And he, you know, he called me on it. So I respected, but it's a tough seat to being. Yeah.

Yeah. Let me explain to you, sir, while I was completely covered in Vaseline shirtless making a spectacle at the Eagles game last week. Money. Yeah, exactly. Worst seat. I'm surprised that's his worst seat. Yeah.

I'm surprised. Worst seat? Yeah, I'm surprised that's his worst seat because honorable mention for me, Worst seat, was yesterday sitting at Chris is out watching a live stream and having to hear all of those performative sneezing that all of a sudden is just, It's gone. It's just gone. That's interesting.

It's just gone right now. That is interesting. Sorry about that. God bless you. The worst seat, I'm giving it to Kyle Shannon who tells a story about sleeping on the bus to a game and thinking that he maybe got shot because someone threw an egg, a horrible egg and shattered the bus window where he was sleeping on the way to the game. When?

Yeah, what game was that? thing ever at some point during his coaching career he was playing a game of philly eagle story was in philly yeah on the bus he's sleeping on the bus he woke up thinking he got shot that's hilarious that's the most philly thing ever yeah that's classic you're like asleep going to the game and you all of a sudden think you're at the war that's fucking there was one time we they had construction on broad street or something we had to take a different route from the team hotel to the link on game day and they thought the fans saw that we were the opposing team

and I'm seeing kids no way dude people are like throwing beer cans out of us and stuff and it's like guys it's us it's your boys like I gotta tell you Buffalo was pretty rough and then I also remember ECU oh my God

ECU East Carolina that bus ride you have to do that opposing team to get into their stadium it's like I don't know if it's where their freshmen live or whatever it is there's just like a row of houses yeah and it's like everyone was there waiting with just shit to throw hamburgers hot dogs like whatever you can think going to that game they were thrown at our buses down there those people are nuts

Chris worst seat it's like redneck buffalo um worst seat probably is gonna be Hmm Hmm Yeah Worst seat I got it man can I just do it because I don't have one Nate during the Jags game I don't even mean it

I don't have one Go ahead It sucked it sucked for him You know he was so fucking out of it About the whole thing He was screaming for No I'm good I'm good

It could have been worse He could have been worse Honestly The only way Like I was just saying Because I got I bought that That confetti pop

and I was just like I hope I don't jinx myself and I don't and they don't score and I don't get the or or I would have had to use that popper on just a cam little field goal. I thought you had another one. He fucking missed and he fucking missed. I don't have one. Go to the next. I'm ready to do with it. Nolan, your worst seat.

Kyle Shanahan bus ride. Tanner? It's a great story. Um, both talking to how he was very funny to witness. I'm going with that. Agreed. Let me ask you a question. It was a...

Let me ask you. I'll just say, I'm glad I wasn't in Bo's seat at that moment. But talking about that confetti canon, just for everybody who wasn't in the chat, it really... Watch my reaction. A worst seat is all of us as Nate fires this thing off. Watch Reed silly ass in the background get scared. Dude, I got so scared.

I looked at Bo and Bo's like... Aren't you glad to use this for the first touchdown? I didn't save it for the end of the game. Dude, and honestly, you're honestly, you fired it off at the perfect angle because all this confetti floating down, like, in our face, like, perfectly in the shot. Look at that. I hadn't seen that. That's pretty fucking fun.

Amazing. Amazing for the age. Look at Chris. Like, what the fuck? I'm like, man, this is going to be a long day. Oh, man, Gigi's bills. Fucking bills. Oh, my God.

Hello man. Uh. I got one Hollow man I'm gonna say McManus you know he missed that extra point what was it 27 to 16

I think at that time when he missed that extra point and then miss that 44 yard field goal I mean that's just brutal man like I think that's a very different game you know if both of those kicks are are made I mean obviously like four points was the difference there right

So, that's a tough seat, man, especially on the road against a divisional opponent. And, you know, have that be the end of your season. Like, that's fucking brutal, man. That's, you know, he's thought about doing Matt Lafleur and everything like that. But this is just such a specific thing where you can see one player, you know, missing those kicks, really impacted that game. It's a totally different ball game if he makes those kicks stuff. And the 44-yard are like, fuck. Something about those 44-yard field goals, you know, at the end of the season.

It's been hard for kickers. Bad. Yeah. I, God. You know, it's so easy to just throw a name out there. Just so many people had a bad weekend. Yeah. I guess I'll give it to Herbert.

I mean, you know, I'm not trying to. What do you want me to do? I was looking at the Golden Globes to find somebody. I don't give a shit about that whole thing. Although Glazer was fucking hilarious right off the back. She was funny. Leo was kind of a worse seat. She hammered him pretty good.

Oh, she hammered him. She was like, yeah, you don't have sex with anybody of age. And he was like, God, that joke gets me every time. He's like, oh, shucks. I'll just keep dating 19-year-old. Weird timeline to do that. Thanks for the free promo. Thanks for the free promo, guys.

Nate, Hollow Man? Hollow Man. I don't give a fuck. I mean, Lo Hagan Fruit for all the Eagles fans I'm surrounded by in here,

Petulow, right? For sure, dude. Yeah. It got to be the Hollow Man. Yeah. Yeah, it's my vote, Reed. Boom. That's my vote, read.

Nolan? I'm gonna go with Mattis. Tough day to do that kicker. Yeah, I'm on McManus. That's a former Bronco. Sorry, Brandon. You got got, son. Boy.

Kind of crushing the mansion. Let's go. I know. It's a 5 to 1 to 1. Oh, Bo's running away with it? Bo's running away with it. Hell yeah, boy. STL Memorial.

I'm going to give it to Wilson, the guard from the fucking Patriots. I think he made the biggest play of the weekend that nobody's talking about, which is picking up that fumble. I think Henley's going to pick that up and go the other way with it 50 yards and all of a sudden that game is going to be sweaty. That was smooth. But that fucking.

that scoop was so clutch. I mean, chances are the charges just pissed the opportunity away, but I think the game would have got tight and sweaty. Pissing the night away. I get knocked down, but I get up again. Uh-huh. Who's turn is it? Yours.

Or Nate. They're bows. STL Memorial, I'm giving it to the thicker kicker, because without his three points, the chargers would have got shut out. And when's the last time someone got shut out in the playoffs? I don't know, but it's probably just not a good look, not scoring any point. Not a good look, not scoring three points. But if you don't know it or not, just that little bit of margin, if that score says zero,

It would have been a lot more harsher conversations going on and a lot different things being said, even though that margin isn't that far, and you still obviously played a shitty game, only scoring three points. But you making the thicker kicker making that one field goal, I feel like saved that team for a lot more. Oh, shut out would have been ugly.

Yeah. It would have been bad. Yep. STL Memorial for me There's a couple guys I mean Just fucking pick one

I'm gonna go Kyle Kyle Juice check Oh he was great Yeah It was tough Kittle goes down That's kind of your vocal emotional

Physical leader of that team It's fucking shitty Get that man A tequila And then Juice really stepped up man I feel like he's been a Swiss army knife For them forever But he was four for four

Especially on that last drive Kind of a security blanket there for purdy. What are these guys doing? Get some tough. This is Brian Robinson, Jr. on IG. A couple bad motherfuckers.

Hey, God forbid a white boy, get a little motion. This is hilarious. Yeah. Guys, chill. You too, chill. It's too fucking funny. Chill, chill, chill. The demolition man, shades.

Yeah. All right. I think we need a vote. Bo wins. he's going to win the whole thing yeah juice is my vote he came up big last night I was gonna Jared Wilson

Jared Wilson I'm gonna Jared Wilson oh you're not a fucking clean sweep oh darn it baj darn it d'n't it d'allin didn't want to vote

against the birds I get it okay was the last one's game ball that's the one which I think counts for four points this week that's what I heard that's what I'd do if if I'm like making uh no

let me pick my game ball first let me pick mine first give it to Josh Allen I'm giving it to Josh Allen not going to lie them calling the tush push and then wanting one yard and getting fucking 11 or was insane was not was absolutely that's a top five sports moment it's funny and it's funny now thinking about it and it's like I almost just Just even as a fan, like, people remember it and thinking that it wasn't a touchdown. I just almost wish that it was a touchdown. Oh. So that.

You'd have more time. No, no. I mean, just for thinking about it. Memorialize it a little bit. Yeah. The whole play together. If that tush push ended up being a touchdown, like how we all thought. Yeah.

Like when it happened in real time, I was just like, as a fan, you're just like, holy shit. Like that. All right, you got it. That was like a major like, you got it. Yeah. Because Josh Allen, I mean, obviously, yeah, he's amazing. And it sucks saying that because they beat the Jags. But if you're going to get beat by anybody.

He's a dog. All right. STL on that play was Osir's Torrance. Torrance. Yeah. I was going to put worst seat Eric Armstead. Yeah, Armstead was on a 12-yard ride. He's 6-8.

He's getting touch pushing into the ends. Yeah, dude, that's not fun. Like, make a mile. You want you to do a game ball, Chris? He just wrote Eric Armstead down for, he just gave the game ball to. It's so computer. All right, game ball. Bear with me here.

Outdoor football. Bear down. This wild card weekend, we didn't have a single game inside. And that is the biggest victory that America could have enjoyed this weekend. Preach, preacher. Football is intended to be played outside. You don't go to the rec center and play inside on Thanksgiving for your turkey bowl. yet we have to watch it inside every Thanksgiving.

But the one thing that helped this year is the fucking NFL couldn't control it. So the outdoor teams hosted playoff games. Let's get more of this every year, shall we? I love that. That's a good. This is a good one. And hey, real fast, the last playoff game that a team was held scoreless

was the Houston Texans in the 2016 NFL playoffs for the 2015 season. That's Super Bowl 50 if we're going by your rules. Lost to the Raiders? No. Loss of the Chiefs, 30 to nothing. Oh, yeah. Who did they play? They played.

Houston. Houston and the Raiders played maybe in 16 as well in the playoffs? In like the next season? I felt like I watched, no, the 2016 season. I feel like they. Oakland. Yeah, yeah, Oakland and Houston in the next season, it was 27 to 14. Houston won that game.

Okay. In the, in the, in the, um, 16 season, 17 playoffs. How does your brain do that? Like just, I know. That is. 2017, Oakland. I remember the most random shit. That's the problem.

All right. Bo? My game ball goes to allergy meds. I haven't sneezed once today. No, I'm just joking. We're all excited about that. My game ball. You guys got so many histamines.

Seriously, I was plugging him yesterday. I'm going to give it to Colson Loveland, man. He fucking balled out. He was, he had 15 targets, but eight catches for 137 yards. and then that critical two-point conversion at the end of the game. He looked like a fucking stud, man. Just to think about him, young player, kind of come to age during the playoffs,

especially with a young quarterback. Like, I'm kind of excited to watch that pairing in the future and, you know, this week through. So Colson Loveland balled out, man. Good shit, game ball. He gets Colson Loveland. That's my vote. Josh Allen.

Outdoor football. Ooh. Everybody gets five. Everybody gets five points except Bo. Aden. We need to break it. Aidan's breaking it. Chris, outdoor football, Bo.

Don't tell him who. Yeah, I like the elements. I'm going outdoor football. We love the elements. He's a New England fan. He's silver medal. What's the game with, um... I like yours.

I too. Outdoor football. With Wayne Brady, where the points never matter. Oh. When I think about Wayne Brady, I only think about this Chappelle show with Wayne Brady. Is Wayne Brady going to have to smack a bit? Angel dust.

C.P. Speaking of that. Okay. So tonight, we've got right now the, what is it, sitting there at three, still stubborn line. Yeah, three.

And the total is 38. Listen, I'm in burn the ships mode. I'll probably do some combination of probably I'm going to tease the fuck at it. I already teased actually. I tease the Texans.

And who did I tease this weekend? I can't remember. Indiana. No, I think I tease the Rams. No offense. They would lose and still cover. And Indiana. I'm tying two pro teams to Indiana.

So it's a seven-day teaser. But I kind of like the three-team throw Houston in there. You get through tonight, you feel like a winner. Rams just got to keep it relatively close. this weekend. Tonight's, tonight's game, you betting it straight up? You never bet it straight up.

No, I do. It's three. That's a lot of points on the road. Dude, listen to this stat. Steelers haven't lost a Monday football game in 23 years. I got it. I love it.

Something to think about. Tomley's just like, yada, yada, yada. You got it, right? Yeah, yeah. You still pressing that butt. My head of the dick should be an uncle. Now, now a lot of people

on the over from what I understand. If you got to bet something, I kind of would just bet the under, which, which I mean, you're protected on 37. You're protected on 38. And I really do think this game is about the big plays, so it'll be sweaty no matter what. Guys, I think that which I feel, I have a feeling, D.K. is going to have a major game. You think? Just because the way Rogers, like, kind of has been trying to spread it out or find someone else to throw to the past. Two games. Yeah. Forcing it.

And no one really stepping up to be like, oh, like, you can force the ball to me. He's going to, I feel like you have no choice. Burn the ships, right? Yeah. If you're going to force it to somebody. I think it's about, I think tonight, one more time, I think tonight's game is about shots. I mean, and I heard somebody else say this this weekend. I've been saying it for a week is like, it's going to be hard to make your hay as Pittsburgh just fucking underneath, underneath.

I know it's going to take a second and you got to hold your breath. but like you're going to have to take a couple shots and for Houston it's kind of what they've lived off of late in the season is these these fucking big explosives so gonna be hard to run the ball in Pittsburgh I like the under if I had a gun to my head and somebody was like you got to I would I would bet Houston over Pittsburgh because I just think their time's coming I think Pittsburgh's time's coming if Pittsburgh loses the night is Mike Tomlin looking for a job I don't think so at this cycle honestly I think there's too many, too many teams that are. A lot of teams already have legs up. Exactly. Too many teams that have a need that have had weeks to start the search, you know. So plot twist, Pittsburgh, you got the same coach next year. But the thing that might help with that if he does lose is the Rooney Rule.

Someone, some of these teams might be slacking and they have to interview. Man, if somebody's interviewing Tomlin, they're interviewing Tomlin. Yeah, for sure. No, that's what I'm for sure. And it's fucked up that the rule, yeah, anyways. So, yeah, I guess my prediction for the game is Houston. I think Fairbairn's going to have to kick two field goals. I can score two touchdowns.

I think it's 2016. I think it's 20 to 16. Good guys. Unless Jalen Ramsey picks six. And that flips that. God, that would fucking suck. All right. Thanks everybody for being here today, and thanks for being here yesterday.

Yeah, we'll be back for the preview show later in the week. Yeah, we will. I'm sorry it took so long. It's just a lot of people. We're out here having fun. Thanks to little Duval for joining. Yeah, that was awesome. Surprise guests.

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