Green Light with Chris Long - Action Bronson in The Fish Bowl

Episode Date: June 29, 2020

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Let me tell you what I did to her before. She likes Lucky Charms. I don't, but I like the marshmallows. So I dumped the whole fucking box out, took every marshmallow out, separated them, put that in a Ziploc bag for myself, put the other cereal back into the box. So when she went in, oh, it was a fucking war in the house. It's a crazy time, and we're all doing what we have to do to get through it. Two big things for me, this podcast, and we've had a ton of interesting guests of

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Really thrilled to welcome all birds to the greenlight pod. Go check them out at allbirds.com, the tree dashers. He doesn't need much introduction. Action Bronson. You've seen him cooking, painting. rapping, doing a whole host of shit, being a stud softball player at the CC Sabathia. The quintessential stud muffin. The quintessential legging out, doubles, and tearing your MCL? I don't know what it was. Yeah, it was the MCL. It's still there.

I got the PRP treatment and everything. You need, I got a place in Germany. You got to go. Stem cells? Yeah. That's what I need. Frankfurt. Don't fuck around.

I know you'd like to like buy local. Yeah. You've gotten some surgeries in Queens, but maybe we can just expand. I mean, listen, they, you know, they do plastic surgery in Jackson Heights on the roof. In Jackson Heights on the roof. Yeah, there's another word for that, too. So I want to talk about softball. You texted me and said, I said, how'd the game go?

You said I had an intangible game. Can you describe what an intangible game is? Well, you know, it's hard to put your finger on exactly what I did. I've had some in football. I had some, I had an amazing, I pitched four scoreless innings until Andrew Jones hit a bomb off me. But at least it was Andrew Jones. I got Sheffield out. Yeah.

He popped up very weakly to the mid, you know, the infield. Yeah. Yeah. My first at bat, bat in practice, I jacked one out. And then my next at bat hit one right up the middle. Then the game started. And, you know, my first at bat, right down the line. out of the park foul

a sigh of release I hear the crowd go oh and I was like so then I get hit by the pitch I take my my bass on balls in a celebrity softball game

I'm shrottin down the first base Johnny Damon comes up next bro these names bro it's like smash he smashed one out of the park it's straight out of like you know one of your songs I know really

I feel like I've definitely will this into existence? I mean, talking about the Yanks, like, when I was a kid, I was such a frontrunner with them. Like, I picked them because they won. But eventually, and I've never heard of this happening, I abandoned them because they were winning too much.

Wow. Yeah, dude. That's grown up of you. Yeah, it was mature. But the tradeoff for me was when I abandoned them, I really became like a rabid Knicks fan, like in the late 90s and then the crash. So in the last 20 years, what's the bright spot for the Knicks?

I mean, it's been since 2000, in the finals or 2001 or whatever. Latrell. That's the bright spot? I mean, since then? Yeah. I mean, being able to go, being able to go to, no, being able to go to the garden, I love Mello, but I feel like he was given a bad, I'm not really bad, it just didn't

really work out extremely well here. I agree it didn't work. You know, I mean, it was good for a couple of years, you know, it was, after LeBron made that decision and we got stodomized. and it just, things weren't the same. Yeah. I feel like the energy got sucked out of, of the garden, you know, kind of it was like, damn, LeBron turned us down.

We can't get anybody to come here. It's just been shitty. We haven't been getting the best product that we deserve for a long, long time, man. It's just upsetting, but always support the next. You can't really give up any team. No, you can't. I mean, like, what I think of it, like, taking an emotional break. Like, I'm still here for you guys.

Not that they give a fuck as a fan. I'm still here for y'all. And when shit gets good again, I will elevate my game. But I can't, I don't have the emotional stability to, like, ride it out as a fan. Like, as a player, it's hard. As a player, it's like, it's survival. But as a fan, you have a choice. You can opt out.

Yep. And so for me. You can watch Graz Anatomy. Which I never did. But, I mean, like, for me, it was a Jeremy Lynn period. It was Lynn Saturday. You went crazy. I had the T-shirt jersey and everything.

A couple of months. You know, when you get the T-shirt jersey, that just means you're, you're not fully committed. Oh, there's no doubt. So like that was where- T-shirt jersey is like beginner status. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Right, I kinda like this guy.

Who's your favorite Nick of all time? Mm-hmm, man. I mean, I was chilling with Oakley last night. Is he up there? He's very up there. Okay. Oakley is like, you know, in New York, you always tend to go to the,

you don't want the glamorous player, you go to the hard nose, get it done, come in the middle, he's in a fucking Steven Seagal, you on the floor, you know? And he would. He really would. I mean, he would fuck you well. He took out Nick Mangold yesterday.

Like, like, like, first base, he hit a ground ball. He's running to first base. He just tackled Nick Mangold for no reason. It was amazing. Was it hostile? No, it was a fun one, but he knocked him. It was a fun. He knocked of all pro center to the ground.

So, so it was a fun spear? A fun spear, yeah. Okay. It was, there was some intention behind it, but he had a smile on. But I would argue like, you mentioned Oakley, like, he's a quintessential New York Nick. But like the best Knicks of all time, none of them were like sexy picks for favorite player. Like if you were a Ewing fan. Of course. I mean, Ewing. I love Mark Jackson. I love Derek Carver. Starks. Starks. I loved Allen Houston at one point. I mean, Mason, we used to,

I used to get my haircut where Mason got his because I loved him so much. Yeah. And it was in the neighborhood, you know. Yeah. And he was cool. Cuddies and Queens. He was cool. Fire. I mean, I wish I would have met him. We didn't mention Alan Houston. Alan Houston. Chris Childs was a banger at one point. It was you. Latrell, L.J. Childs, one of my favorite, one of my favorite references was you on the Freddie Gibbs song. That same night.

The next remix. And you talked about when Chris knocked out, or he didn't knock him out, but he had him, he had him like swaying a little bit. He three pieced him. So. That's accurate. It was Sunday. It was Sunday.

It was Sunday. It was Sunday. It was Sunday. Well, I was in the Hyundai. You want to know, the worst thing about having a Hyundai back in the day is the night before Brett Favre was to play his first game for the Jets. I'm at the store up the block from my house in the Hyundai. I leave the car running as I do all the time. I'm in boxers because I'm up the block.

I go and buy a set for life and a Dutch. I'm in there scratching a set for life oblivious. and two little fucks jump in the car and steal my shit. I should have known that was going to be the... No shit. That was going to be the beginning of Farve's career as a jet. Did you find them? Never.

They found the car in Long Island burnt. Why'd they burn it? Is that typical here? Yeah, but why'd they burn it? They crashed into the side of someone's house. But it was burned, like, would they be driving it on fire? You know it would be tight if we did a thing where, like, we take you back to... Reenactment?

No, reenactment would be tight. we could do a dramatization. With the scene. With the scene, but then we can take you back to the house that you crash into to like make a man, or that your theft. I don't know where they crashed.

It was somewhere in Long Island. I never had to go ID. Can we pull that? I didn't have the ID the body. Well, they fucking, they destroy a lot of police records nowadays. So I don't know if they're going to have your Hyundai. I'm not trying to go into a picture.

Yeah, we're not going to this. Let's keep me away from that. You set me in. Let's keep you out of there too. I'm the Walter Payton man of the year. You are. Thank you for your service. Yes, thank you for your.

So you just always got to thank you for this service. Another, another next thing. So you remember exactly where you were. Like, you know how like sports. Like you remember where you were when certain things happen. And, and you mentioned, you know, I think in an interview that you, your favorite team was a 94 team. I mean, it's, it was the greatest, it was the greatest feelings, you know, because we were almost there. Yeah.

You know, you're almost there. And it's the quintessential next team. There it is. That exemplified New York City at the time. And did you remember that day and that week what was going on? I mean, I know because I've watched back, but that was the OJ thing. All the OJ stuff was going on. It was Ramadan.

Yeah. It was lots of craziness was happening. You know, Elijah won wasn't eating. Yep. You know, he was playing. Which is insane. Hungry. Yeah, it was out of control.

How do you do that? It's really, it's next level. But it was like kind of like inception, though. It really was. It was like inception because you had the Knicks, you had, it was the Rangers as well, right? The OJ's White Bronco, not that for a little double entendre there. The Rangers.

Rangers were playing at the time too, because it was all around. Yeah. You know? There's a whole documentary on it. Yeah. Did you see that shit? Of course. It's pretty sweet.

One of my favorite things is to watch docky series. I don't like, I like, I like real shit that's happening. Like good stories. mafia, any type of shit like that. So best one, best docucus series off top of your head then. I mean, there's one that I really enjoy called the 7-5. It's not a docu-series. It's just a one-off about these cops from the 75 precinct, which is East New York,

dirty cops that were running drugs and all kinds of shit. Rayliotas, just totally Rayliotas. A bad lieutenant shit. Yeah, Harvey Cattell, listening to Mike and, Mike and Doug on FAA. Mike and the Mad Dog and, you know, it was like, it was the series, L.A. versus the Mets in 88. And he shoots the fucking, he shoots the radio because Darrell hits the home run. Hey, another over. I don't know.

It wasn't 80. It was in the 90s. It was crazy. That reminds me that since you're talking about baseball and the radio, that reminds me a scene in the fan. Do you remember the fan? Oh, with, uh, with Snipes and De Niro. I don't remember it as well as I should. He's going, he was like.

the whole premise of the movie was he was a super fame. Of course. And he actually... Wesley played for the Giants. Did you see the rain scene? Do you remember the rain scene? I do remember the rain. Vaguely, I have to re-watch it.

I'm gonna watch it today. How the fuck did they play through the rain? That was my big question about that. It was bullshit. What about last Boy Scout? No. You were talking about that pill, the painkiller? Yeah.

So he popped a mouth full of those. This was Billy Blanks. He had the gun on him. They handed him the ball. He's the running back. They handed him the ball. He just shoots every. defensive player coming at him.

How did I see this? But Damon Waynes. Oh, I need to see this. Come on me. He was the star quarterback who was sniffing coke. No shit. It wouldn't be the first one. Bruce Willis.

Oh, Bruce Willis. Come on. Without hair, obviously. His hair was just gone. No, he had like weird hair. He had like, yeah, 40-year-old hair. He was hanging on. Yeah, for dear life.

But it was a good look because that's his look. Yeah. But, yeah, I love shit like that. That was kind of like any given Sunday before that, any given Sunday. like the realest side of football. I have never seen somebody get on top of an escalate my decade in the league. And I play with some crazy motherfuckers.

I mean, crazy. But I've never seen somebody get up on top of a truck and chainsaw it in half. Just do the craziest you can think of. The stereotypes, bro. I'm like, people are like, you guys live like that? I'm like, no, not really. I mean, maybe the single guys, you know, they're the young guns. But I've never seen the escalate chopped in half.

And if Al Pacino gave a speech, which I thought was one of the best speeches in movie history, sports movie history. But if a coach gave a speech like that, we would boo him. Because, like, we're not in the locker room. Like, you know, we're getting ready to go out and play a fucking game, dude. Like, I don't want to hear the coach talk for three minutes. Yeah, stop with the full shit. Jeff Fisher used to say three words and send us out. So, you know, let's go kick some fucking ass and then we're gone.

So you always have to add a little curse in there. If curse has always hype people up. You can't say let's go win. No, let's go win, guys. Yeah, let's kick some fucking ass. Fuck out there and go fucking smash somebody in the fucking head. Smash somebody in the head. You talked about drugs just a minute ago.

You talked about pain killers. So I didn't know that you were like not gold. I'm not addicted to pain killers. No, no, no, no. Okay. Gold's gym guy. Back in your muscle, like muscle bound, like bodybuilder. Let's say, let's say I was on the verge of being muscle bound.

See, you were it all the way? I mean, I wasn't, I was Jack, but I wasn't ripped. Yeah, you were, yeah. I was mass. Yeah. I was mass, you know, like the combine is, what, 225 bench? Yeah. I would do that 35 times to 40 times, you know, like throwing it in the air almost,

because we were stupid. What we were doing? I had nothing to do at that age. I was jabbing myself with all kinds of fucking trembleone and... What's trembleon? Trembleon, don't act like you don't know what that. I swear. Bro, and here's the thing.

Sustinon and Winstrel. I know you heard of Winstrel. No. Winstrel is giving... But you hadn't heard of a tort all. Yeah, I have. Which is... Oh, okay.

It's a magic drug. That's the only way I play football. And there's also a magic drug called Dilaudid. Oh, I know Deloaded. Yeah. So that's what I've taken before with the surgery. And it's kind of like shooting dope. I would imagine, you know, that warm feeling and you're like, ah.

Yeah, yeah. Even though you're really fucked up, it just makes you forget you're hurt. The shit, what's the shit that... What's the shit that... He'll heal you. What's the shit that, uh, talking about surgery and anesthetics? like the stuff they give you right before you go out, it's like, I can see why. Oh, yeah, of course.

I don't want anywhere near it. No, no. I don't want to ever go through that shit again, you know, like injury is not cool. I hurt my knee. I had that plasma replacement shit. One of the worst things I've ever gone through, fucking two humongous men had to hold me down. I'm screaming for seven minutes. The pain would not go away.

I'm so it's like. After surgery? No, it wasn't a surgery. They just, they draw blood. They place it in this spinner. It separates the plasma from the hemoglobin or whatever the fuck. Obviously. And then they extract the plasma and put it back into your knee.

Yeah. And it's like somebody is ripping your whole fucking knee open with like the jaws of life. Oh my Lord. Heavy duty feeling. But steroids. They were amazing, man. It was like, you know, it was easy to sell, easy to use. Who even knows if I was shooting olive oil or not?

I could have been shooting fucking Chris Crowe with my ass. I don't want to like what area. What area of town do you go to for steroids? What borough is the best borough for steroids? Is it queen? Well, to be honest, it depends on the gym. You know, I was in a steroid gym. Yeah.

You know, like, and then I went to another steroid gym in the Bronx where Victor Martinez, as an IFBB Pro was like fucking jacked out. I think he came in. He was like third in Mr. Olympia top for him. But he was, you know, from that area. and there was all kinds of shit going on over there. So it was just always readily available. Were you more angry on Roids?

Yeah. That shit's real. Of course it's real. So you're more aggressive, everything. Your balls shrink. Your dick gets a little bit bigger. Really? Then it reverses.

So there is a positive. Then your balls hanging. Your dick's just there by accident. You know, it's like, what is this? Why did I do this to myself? The moment you're standing in the mirror and you're like, I look a little better. I look a little.

I'm like, I'm kicking my dog, My ball's shrunk. I'm just like, I walk in the house. Definitely are emo. You're emo. So you're emo. Yeah, yeah. There's emo situations.

And I have emo tendencies anyway. Me too. I don't want to like, I don't want to like fucking. Like if I'm riding this wave, like I don't want to do that, you know? Like it's not worth just a little bit more math. It's really not. I've learned that. And, you know, I just pushups and all that type of shit is better.

In my career, I've always valued like staying clean, which like I got a dad bod, bod, bro. Like I'm a big guy with muscles, but like some of these motherfuckers in a league are just jacked, bro. But I never wanted to cross that threshold where I took something. It's so risky in the lead because you could take something that's not even banned and it can cloud the test and then your legacy is ruined. Like to me, you fail a test. People are always wondering, especially like the white underachiever guy. Like if I get popped, like they're all going to be like, well, he would have been nothing without steroids.

And, you know, so I thought about HGH once coming off injury. Like it crossed my mind for a second. I was like I was at a real crossroads in my career, having my best years of my life. You know, 40 sacks, four years. I are two years in row. Lost all my muscle, everything. And it crossed my mind, but I can never, I never could imagine doing it.

Mushrooms or acid? What do you like better? You know, acid's pretty amazing, but you can't turn that off. You can't really turn mushrooms off either, but I think the amount of time that they both affect you was pretty fucking next level.

So I like to hit the DMT. I've never hit the DMT. Well, DMT, 10 to 15 minutes of intensity, like, tremendous, unbelievable, earth-shattering feelings. So it's quick. Universe-shattering. Well, you don't know if it's quick or not.

You feel like it's forever. So, dude, like, my thing about DMT is, like, is it one of those drugs that, like, unlock something in you that you don't want unlocked, like a Pandora's box? I don't know. I don't know if I have anything that I don't want to unlock everything. It's like Mortal Kombat.

You want to keep unlocking the characters and unlocking stages and shit like that? Unlocked sub-hero. Then reptile and then fucking- Goro. Goro was sick, but my favorite was raiding. The raiding is shooting lightning. He was the ghost. That character was based upon a character

on Big Troubling Little China. Burr Russell is underappreciated. I agree. Actually, I agree. It's not something I'm like, it's not an opinion I shared like on a strong level, but I agree. Well, hold on before you get to your next level. and my boy used to play hockey with his fucking son. Really?

In Beverly Hills. Really? They play hockey in Beverly Hills? Pretty good, apparently. Really? They have all the equipment. Well, those kids are probably so fucking rich. They're going to figure out a way to get a rink in their backyard.

Yeah, they have. They built a rink. There's no job too big. I mean, if I was a figure skater, I'd build a rink. Yeah. And you like figure skating. You've talked a lot about it. To be honest with you, that was one of the,

most watch sports in my house because my grandmother that came from very far away, you know, my Albanian grandpa, she loved figure skating. Right. I don't know what the fuck. Favorite figure skater? Hmm. Of all time? I mean, Aksana Bayou kind of exploded onto the scene.

I love a good Scott Hamilton flip. I'm slightly familiar with these names. You know Christy Yamaguchi. Yeah. You know the controversy that happened between how... It's all the moment. Did you, did you, well, no, not that, but the Tanya Harding. Tanya Harding.

Did you see, did you see the movie? I actually happy to really enjoy Margo Roby. She was awesome. Yeah, she's good. I thought it was too light. It could have been darker, but she did a great job because I like dark movies. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I was hoping to see it a little more raw.

Like my cousin Vinnie? Yes, yes. And I like you. Yeah, you referenced that we stick out like. Yeah, anywhere I go, I stick out like a sore thumb. That's his life. But you're good anywhere, though, at the same thing. time because like you have a lot of crossover.

I feel like being from New York, you have a little bit of, you know, you're around so many different types of human beings. You kind of have like a little step ahead. Yeah. On social activity and how to, you know, handle different types of humans. You talked, we talked about everything. Obviously, the drug that everybody likes talking about is weed. I mean, you got your own like apparatus.

It's no longer. It's not, it's not a drug. Well, you know, it's, it's, it's the universe's gift. It's a plant. and we love it. We both love it. I was reading about it, you know, and reading about the fact that you you vape most at night.

Does it settle your thoughts? Do you feel like you're buzzing all day so much with creativity and your mind's going, you're doing all this different shit. It's hard to settle down at night. Is that why you smoke? Like, why do you, like, what's the application of besides you just feeling good? I mean, it's been something that's been in my life for so long now.

Yeah. Now that you've asked me, why I do it. It's because it's something that's ingrained in my DNA and something in me that brings me to it. Like we all have a cannabinoids, you know, circulatory cypacist them in our bodies. I don't know exactly what it's called

some endocrine type of shape. Endocrinology. There is. Like we're talking endocrinology here. Obviously. So why would we have these receptors if it wasn't meant for us? Yeah, you're right.

You know what I mean? We don't have cocaine receptors. That's not built in our bodies. We don't. You know? And although these nostrils are pretty enormous, like nothing's going up there. Nah, there's not. I can't get anything else.

I've sniffed sugar before. I don't want anything else. As a joke when I was like eight. Yeah, fuck that. So once you find a drug, like for me, it was like I had a lot of problems sleeping, obviously the pain aspect. Yep. And just like some social situations at first that you're like, oh, these are just better.

The edge is off. And I have ADD and all that shit, so it's nice to, like, just have something to calm me down. And nighttime is, but, like, in our league, we get tested once a year. It's so arbitrary, bro. Like, it's like, it's just saving faith. It's kind of ridiculous that people get popped, right?

Well, I used to think that until I started smoking a lot. And then you know you just can't stop. And then I was like, well, no, you just start pushing the limit. Oh, you're like, nah, nah, I've waited another day. You're like, oh, man, I had a buddy that said he drank five gallons of cranberry juice and he was good. three days, which is bullshit. Of course. But usually you go about a month is what I think, the way we like burn and whatnot.

But like in that month, though, you start picking up, I start noticing I'm popping more pills. I'm popping more, you know, Lunesta, Ambien, you know. See, that type of shit, I don't take any of that type of thing to Lunesta. That kind of, it gives you those like, you pretty much dreaming while you're up. Yeah. You know, you're like loose. It's like weird. And, you know, for sleeping, I never really had an issue.

I just smoke till I sleep. Yeah. And I start early and I don't end till late. Right. And from my mind, it's just always going. I kind of have to slow it down sometimes. But then I speed it up. I'm kind of fucking with myself.

It's a little bit of a different balance, but there are different thoughts than you have that you're sitting around knocking on high. Like your mind, like, if I'm sitting around, like, trying to be creative, prepping for this interview, like writing about, like, because I write some, like, I'm not going to do that high necessarily.

But there's another side to like, I want to get high to get more creative. So my right brain's thinking one way and then my left brain's thinking the other time. So, I mean, like, if you can mix the applications, it's great. But like for you, when you're writing, I assume you probably smoke, you don't?

Yeah, of course. It's so ingrained. So it helps. So it's so it's, I don't know if it helps, but I know that it definitely makes me feel better. It puts me at ease. So is there something, I guess what I'm wondering, is like somebody who has to go up on stage and recall,

and you have tremendous recall. You have recall, you know, when it comes to you to, to movies and sports is obvious. Yeah, all kinds of songs from everyone. But think about you've done album after album and mixtapes and you go on the road and you've got to recall them. Can you be high on stage or man, no, you smoke on stage.

I have my mind high. Yeah. And I'm all good. You're good. I'm always out of my mind high on stage. There's no chance that I could go out on stage. I mean, I could do anything in any way possible in life's way. Yeah.

I could live in life's way. Right. But I like living in my way. You know, I like living the way I like living. I like smoking. I like fucking being high. I like my eyes halfway closed. I like the feeling of it being a little bit, you know,

I like passing out at any time I want. That's a nice quality because I'm not the type that could, without weed, I could never just, I can't fall asleep accidentally. Last time I fell asleep accidentally, you know, without Bud was probably a kid. Like I wasn't the, kid in the car on the way home from school that's like just gonna you know come out so I

need something to kind of chill me out but like what about the like the downside for me if I had to pick one downside is is is the Monchies bro well I mean I got the same problem hey just a little you you wear it well yeah I'm just I'm a little taller a little bit like but like so so for me I know I got some foods that I love like what are the foods that like you like you can't have in your pantry because it's going to be I try not to keep any time honestly I try not to keep anything in the pantry yeah no cookies no bullshit no nothing

because those are all gone in one day yeah it says no it's the way it's always right yeah think with everybody you try and eat one and it's just the fucking whole pack is on the floor ripped up the shreds like a dog that goes through garbage bags exactly right I mean like

you're not going to have one Oreo yeah and you know I live with my my soon-to-be wife Congrats. Thank you very much. And, you know, that shit makes noise. Yeah. No, I know.

You know the fucking cookie pack is always very loud for some reason. I know. I know. Like, they don't make it a silent cookie pack. So everyone always knows what you're doing. Oh, he's in the cookie jar again. And they shame you too, man. It's shame.

I have sitting there like, what? She comes, what is this? I'm like, what the fuck? It's a cookie. And the worst part. That's no longer with any cookies in it. Well, the worst part, and you got kids, right? So they got some delicious foods.

I know. So you fucking... Let me tell you what I did to her before. She likes Lucky Charms. I don't, but I like the marshmallows. So I dumped the whole fucking box out, took every marshmallow out, separated them, put that in a Ziploc bag for myself, put the other cereal back into the box. So when she went in, oh, there was a fucking war in the house.

Just pure. I said, I don't know what happened. I don't know why they don't know why they don't sell that shit just the way. They do. But I had it, you know, had to fuck with it. That's so funny, bro. Can't have these marshmallows. I have their mind.

Imagine pouring out and it's just the fucking little brown pieces of. No, that's the garbage one. That's the shit. Dog shit. Yeah, they feed that to the goats. They do. They do. A food I struggle with is pork rinds.

Mm. If I got pork. Kris. Lots of crispy things. Krispy. Crispy, if there's a bag, you know, I get home from the bar and I've had a couple beers. You mix the IPA with the pen and you get max and munchies because you get the beer munchies. And then, uh...

It's all about mixing things also, right? Like finding certain concoctions that work for you. Yeah, yeah. Do you get the, like, so now you're like, oh, you've been a cook, you're chef for a long time. So I'm really a cook, to be honest. Really? What's the difference? A chef is someone who I would imagine worked their way.

up through the ranks of in the kitchen and spent extensive years eating shit. Yeah. I spent some years eating shit, but I never made it to an executive chef, you know? Right. Like in a real kitchen, like where you work like with, in a real restaurant. I worked in other places like, you know, that I was able to just do what I wanted. Yeah. It wasn't really the best situation, but it was also.

What's, uh... I'm a glorified executive cook. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. I mean, that's, that's, because I like how you're, you're not taking too much credit. No, I can't. I'm not a chef. I'm an executive cook. Right. Um, but I mean, you still had to do some of the menial shit, right? You were working, when you hurt yourself, you were working with, for your pops. Yeah. What kind of place was that? I mean, it was a, it was a beautiful place, you know,

it was a staple in the neighborhood, Forest Hills. Yeah. And, uh, you know, they were doing Mediterranean stuff and all kinds of shit at that time. So it was good experience just working with Mexican dudes that really, the thing I learned most in that kitchen was speed. Right. You know, tasting and making sure everything is good, but with speed. Yeah. And stress. Oh, big stress.

But, you know, when you have Salsa playing in the background, I'm watching UFC on a little baby screen TV that my man Carlos, the dude who used to watch the dishes. And handyman, you fucking stole the cable from up the block. I did you really? So we got UFC. I mean, this was Spike. We got. So this is the old.

PBS, yeah. This is literally when ultimate fighters started. They got the kimonos. No, no, that's, yes. Because that shit was my favorite. I have all those DVDs, the early ones. That shit was my favorite. It's cage fighting early.

Hoist Gracie and Ken Shamrock, Dan Severn. They will fuck you up in a costume, bro. For real. They don't even need to like be. The geet is a crazy thing. The geese. If someone comes out in the geet, you know that they're not to be fucked with. You know that they're gonna either choke you out or do a weird karate move.

Yeah. I mean. They're not going to box in the geek. They're not going to box you. And you're going to try to box, but they're going to be like... Well, boxing does... It does cancel out jujitsu sometimes. If you get hit in the face, you can't get an arm lock.

Right. You know, so if you blast someone as hard as you can and keep hitting them, that's kind of a jujitsu deterrent. You like kung fu movies? Not as much, but I mean... Because I'm not that... I want to know more... I like Bruce Lee.

Yeah. I saw a lot of the old. you know faces of death type of shit yeah um i'm i'm i'm more like a bronx tale yeah i'm a michael keaton guy also your school keene woodbine you've worked with scorzzi deniro was just me and denero on on the camera and how was he he was a gentleman and a man do you know who you know who you were i don't think he knew who i was but they were telling him scorsesey already knew well maybe he did but he was just he's fucking rob deno neer was he care did you see uh the gosseng movie yet first man she checked that out but i did see some shit that made me cry what was the one with

mcana hay interstellar oof my favorite one of my favorite movies of all times she made me cry a lot i was on the plane coming back from morocco yeah emmeritz had that fire yeah started crying like a baby yeah i had hash in my butt cheeks bro and there were points in the movie i didn't even know why i was emotional i was just emotional something struck a chord something struck a chord when he's like fucking blasted back. The books are moving when he's, oh, come on. I don't know. I don't understand what's going on there completely,

but it fucking makes sense. Everything is flea treat. How about when he gets out of the, when he gets out of the spaceship, my favorite part of the movie. He goes to that world with the big tidal wave and shit, and he's got the people in the spaceship waiting for him. He's like, I'll be back in five minutes.

And he's back in five minutes, but it's like 40 years. And he gets back on the 30, and they're like, we've been waiting. So long. I'm like, bro, that is deep.

I don't know. They didn't get in their chamber. No, they didn't get in their chamber. They would have fucking stayed in the chamber, man. They should have listened to Matt. Matt Damon. Yeah, so fucking, well, I didn't like the Matt Damon movie. I didn't see that one.

Yeah, it's not as good. The space, Mars, Martian. Yeah. Was that like a runoff of that one? Well, I think if you look at it, they were kind of this. Similar. They were big blockbuster, like,

space exploration movies at the same time, like a year apart. And I think to me it was a dichotomy of like two types of fans. Do you like the grittier movie or do you like, you know, the Disney's Martian movie where he's in the greenhouse and he's, he is the one-liners and he's telling jokes. Like I prefer the darker one. And so the Scorsese one that I wanted to ask you earlier is he's got so many

fucking good movies. We were looking at it earlier arguing about this. What's the best one? Or your favorite. I don't want to say best. You know, he did Pope. of Greenwich Village? No. I mean, I love Raging Bull.

Raging Bull is heavy duty. The departures, heavy duty. Raging Bulls, it's dark. It might be too dark for me. I mean, he was a dark man, apparently. He was really good in Fight Night. Did you used to play Fight Night on the video game? Nah.

You could hit people with one punch in Lockham out with Jake Lamont. It was unbelievable. Lock Tyson, Holyfield, all of them out. Good fellas. I mean, good fellas is tremendous. I really love it. Departed. Yeah. I really love the departed. Yeah. It's a good fucking movie. Absolutely. No, it's one of my favorites. And Scorsese was, I think, also involved in Boardwalk Empire, which I really

enjoyed a lot. Boardwalk, you liked that. I think you talked about the dude with the mask in one of your songs, did you not? No, but thanks for the idea. Well, the scene on the beach, I misunderstood. Remember the guy with the mask when he just shoots everybody up? Yeah. Yeah, he was my favorite character. Yeah, he took the man. He had the fucking thing. So that's a good idea. So if I ever see one, then it came from this interview. He did Gangs in New York. Gangs of New York was amazing.

Great movie and weird for its time. Like it was just different. Like it was kind of like watching fucking, what's the Western series on HBO? What's that old Western series? No. Deadwood. Did you ever watch Deadwood? Never watched that.

It's kind of like written in a little bit of like a playwright way. Taxi driver. Taxi driver. I have it's phenomenal. Wolf of Wall Street. Tremendous. Shutter Island, which I thought was fucking awesome. Did you see that one?

No. You need to see Shutter Island. So I wanted to run through some music shit, because we've done all this and we haven't talked about music. Of course. So I went through my favorite fucking songs, you know, some of my favorite projects of yours. And what I love about it is all the sports references mainly,

but also just like you got a reference rich catalog. Like, I feel like with your verses, there's not a lot of dead air. There's no like, I'm not just why I'm just take off words. Every word has to mean something. And that's why I like it. It's like, it's almost like having a conversation with somebody like, like, that has similar interest. And you're like, oh, he just, yeah, let me.

And then you pause the song and you get on YouTube and you're like, I need to see that scene again. Or I need to. Exactly. It's as visual as visual could be. Yeah. You know, setting scenes up. So after you hear it, you'd have to go run to YouTube. Oh, shit.

This is what you just meant. That's crazy. My mind is... No, it's cool. And it's always good... It's good to add in laughter and shit. I always like... I was like comedy in the raps.

Comedy and, you know, just saying things that are off the fucking wall. Yeah. Well, White Bronco, latest project. I'm late to be like, it's not a promotion, but I just like talking about it. No, it's all good.

Fucking... You could always promote that. It's shorter. Mm-hmm. Right? So do you do that on purpose? You know, keeping it real Spartan,

trim all the fat, Well, I feel like I've always done that. Yeah. You know, sometimes, all the Blue Chips projects, there were a lot of songs. They were like one minute, one minute, two minute, three, you know. You've got a lot of single verse, one or two verse songs. Well, sometimes that's all they calls for. Yeah.

And that, you know, it's like not every piece of art has to be, you know, the Picasso, the Mona Lisa or, you know, there's other things that you see in moment. It's just fucking scribble. Right. Oh, my God. This is gorgeous. You know? Yeah.

Sometime, that's all it is, is a couple strokes. Yeah. A couple strokes of the voice and that's it. Sometimes it's a more, you know, more thought out, elongated version of that. Yeah, because there's two ways to do it. I'm sure, I mean, there's a bunch of ways to do it. But when you're trying to do commercial music,

you go for a formula. Yeah. When you're doing art, you do what I do, you just do what you want. Yeah. Which is cool, and you've never been a slave to the industry, which is cool to me. But I did, I did.

signed with Atlantic Records and I gave myself a shot a couple times. Yeah, but I also did shoot myself in the foot a couple times, you know. But you're not like, and I'm not familiar with the, the, when you were independent, when you, I'm like, I'm not on the technical side of the industry. I'm not a fucking expert on that. But like, to me, you seem like a guy who's just, I'm going to, I'm going to keep my integrity personality-wise and do what I want to do. And also, you do a lot of shit. Absolutely. It's almost like you don't want to be limited to one thing.

Exactly. You know what I mean? And that's what these people want. They want you to be limited. You know, they don't want you to express your other interests. Those aren't beneficial to them. Yeah. But I'm not doing anything that's beneficial to somebody else except my family.

And for me, I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I couldn't express myself in the way I really, in the way I really feel inside. And you don't, like, you know, one of the things I wrote down was like, I couldn't find a song in your catalog that I thought was like, a pop type song you know what I mean which is cool and like a lot of people like you could you know it's a lot like building a media company or like fucking

or doing a show like I could have you on here and try to get you to say something that's going to get clicks and get views you could release a garbage song that's going to shoot to the top of the charts that's below you and you see what you say there it's usually garbage it is it's usually garbage yeah I mean I will go as far as to say

my most commercial yeah hit baby blue with me, Mark Ronson and Chance the Rapper, I would never, ever, ever classify as a pop song. Right, it's, but relative to that determination.

If you, if you compare it to a lot of the other things that I've done, it's more poppy. The song to me, at least my favorite song that's popular of yours is Easy Rider. Easy Rider's on the pregame playlist. Thank you for the auditory cocaine. you know a couple cups of coffee some some easy rider a bunch of other stuff some pastor troy just like

fucking raging but that fucking pastor troy's a big choice oh yeah that's a big one yeah i like that oh yeah um fucking pastor troy's probably more you know i got some pearl jam on there of course 10 one of the most classic albums of all time got to have some eddie eddie bro release i like the slower shit but the reason i like easy ride is because like it's quintessential good production and like sampling and like some rock and roll influences, which I love about you do rock and roll shit. Of course.

What was the deal with that, with the production of that song? I'm sure you've talked about it, but to me I didn't know. Nah, I don't, I mean, I don't really think I've talked about it. This is, I'm gonna tell you exactly what we did. I'm really into like 70s Turkish psychedelic rock. So I just put together a bunch of songs, went through all of them

because I wanted to rap on something like that in that vein and two and a half minutes into a song you just fucking hear that that but it wasn't in that you know he pitched it up a little bit and fucked with it so that's Turkish rock yeah that's a

that's a Turkish song and honestly the record is like fucking two grand it's a rare record it's a legendary joint I had no idea so we took it off YouTube. It had like 30,000 views. Put it back on YouTube after we fucked with it. Yeah. And now it's easy, rather.

Dude, that's unreal. It's crazy that that's the world we live in now. We could take it directly from YouTube sampled and then put it back onto fucking YouTube. Dude, it's wild. And I love samples. That's the reason like... But there's live instrumentation on there too. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. My man Kurt. Yeah.

demolished that solo at the end. The mixture was just oh yeah the guitar oh it's unbelievable I was like literally it was it fit the video perfectly like the video was dope

you know and then the reason I love I love because I grew up enjoying New York hip hop so I love samples and like when Dipset was like awesome bro you can't like forever that's a pretty tremendous one just like we were riding around

listening to Dipset non-style Purple. That was all of that. Purple taste. I mean, the purple haze. Purple haze, yeah. All, you know, let me just say this. Dipset was a major part of my life in the 2000s.

Yeah, I liked. Like, I was driving around thinking I was the fucking man in a drop-top little beamer that my father had. Yeah. Listening to dipset, two humongous men, me. There was always two big men in the car. Yeah. It was crazy in a little Z-3.

Z-3. You like little cars. Nah, I don't like that. It just, that was what was around, and it was a drop-top. There's not a lot of trucks here. I'm into trucks. I like driving a fucking Grand Cherokee Laredo. Okay.

Normal. You should see my land cruiser. You might like it. See, I was looking at a land cruises also. But I got a 1990, like a 4-runner. Remember the old, like, boxy? Of course. Yeah, so.

Those are the big deal now. So sorry, I was on, I was on samples. I love Sample. No, fuck that. But that's the way. I like Land Rover's. I was just looking at a fucking LR4, because I like those.

Yeah, yeah, they're cool. Other discoveries or... So the LR4 is, is it acceptable for dudes? For me, I think so, because it's a rare one. Yeah. It's more those, it's like, you know, the LR4s, they don't make them anymore. Yeah. And when you fucking hook them up, it's ridiculous.

That's the way I feel about them as well. It has the safari window. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not a mom car. Yeah, my wife drives one. An LR4? I think it's the LR4? She's a rebel.

Yeah, she's a rebel. But sometimes I'll like kind of saw. Are you trying to put down my LR4 dreams? No, not at all. But like, are you talking about which LR4? Is it, what year is yours? I don't have one. I want one.

What year do you want? Maybe 14, 15. Yeah, so she has an LR4. So she does. Yeah, it's the LR4. Yeah. What color? Okay, this is a cool.

This is the cool part, bro. And I hate, you know, Meg, she's out here watching, like, we're here. You know how much I like action and we're talking about you. So there you go. you're a big star but we got so she loves so she loves her truck and she don't want to get rid of it because um and it and like i'll catch myself like kind of looking at it like maybe i can like buy her a new car and just like slide into the lr 4 you know that move but she then one day was like because i'm matt i'm matt green matt army green my rover one time and it was it was awesome black out

the wheels yellow calipers and so she fucking copied me yeah she got matt green on the lr4 and it looks fucking sick, dude. Telling you. So I'm a little jealous. Should you put rims? No, just spray them flat black, which is the kind of military look. It's cool.

You know what I want to do to it. I want to drop it and put it on fucking BVS's. Oh, yeah. Well, you want to drop it. I've never seen that before. Yeah. Just put them on big, wide, fucking, like, big eight-inch lip.

I can sell that. I can sell that. Try it. We try it out at home. So why did you reference Don Cheadle? Because it seemed like Don Chito was just to throw away in there. Was there a reference that I missed the reference? Come on. What was it? That I kind of resembled Don Cheadle.

That's the fucking reference. No, the throwaway was Tate Diggs. Another guy. No, Tate Diggie. The ladies they think you look. Why do you think you look like a good looking black guy? That's the irony. That's the irony of this. She makes you fucking crack up. When someone, when I tell somebody, when I tell somebody, yo, all the ladies think I look like Tate Diggs. I usually use Brad Pitt. Come on. You know, so your demographics a little different. I mean, no, I think I have everybody in Tate Diggs. This is universally loved. Stella got a groove back.

Yeah. Come on. You never forget Tate Diggs and that. And the women don't. Indiana Jones, you said it's better than Star Wars. I agree. 100%. The people on this set did not agree.

I'm sorry, fellas, but I'm sorry for your feelings, but. Indiana Jones, to me, does a lot visually. So if I'm thinking about a movie, how great it was. A lot of it for me is how many scenes do I vividly remember. Yeah. Well, yeah, like every single one of them. The snakes, when they cut the thing open, the snakes. I just a stay.

I just say. Khamah. Yeah. Shaptia. Exactly. And then they throw that guy off into the alligator pit, the big boulder. The one that really fucked me up was when the dude took the step in the other one. No, he took the step over the canyon in the temple of the Lost Art.

Yeah. And then he goes over to drink the wine and he becomes a hundred-year-old. Oh, he picks the rules cup. You never, God wouldn't drink out of that fucking. You know, why would he drink out of a bejeweled cup? He's a humble man. He's a humble man from humble beginnings. I agree.

He's from the Bronx. He's from the Bronx. He's drinking from the brass fucking cup. But yeah, there's no doubt about it in my mind that Indiana Jones is better because it strikes a chord with inside me. I like, I love the ancient aliens and the relics and all that, you know, that archaeology and the crazy mysteries of the world. Um, I was not intergalactic fire, you know, shooting and shit like that. I mean, it's kind of cool, but it's too long. You like the mystical shit.

I like more mystic, but they're like human beings doing ill shit. Yeah. In like real situations that I could relate with. Yeah, it was a little more realistic. Not that any of it necessarily. It's very relatable to me. But it's relatively real. You talked about a white deer.

My buddy saw a white deer this week. It's rare. What does it mean? That's just rare. I said I'm rare like a white deer with spiked hair. I'm just saying I'm quizzing you because the Native Americans, they had a, they had a meaning for it. What does it mean?

See, I didn't know this. Something new and big happening in your life. So if you see. I just fucking subconsciously do all these things. I'm unconsciously tapping into my indiginy. Your indigenous is that fucking word. It is. All right.

It is a word. You reference Tiger bomb. I can identify with that. Oh, I'm tired. I'm all lathered in it right now. Are you before shows? Are you Tiger Bomb? No, I'm not Tiger, I do have to Tiger Bomb, the hamstring, like the beginning back of my knee to up to the hamstring. So just the whole foot, basically.

Pretty much my whole body. The whole leg. Yeah, exactly. My leg is a short leg. I can't wear a high top shoe because all half my leg is gone. And don't get any Tiger Ball when you're low back. No, I mean, I like Tiger Ball. It feels so shitty.

I know. Like you get close to there or on the like smaller. Yeah. Or you don't want to, you know, back in a day, everyone used to do. You just put it on your nuts, don't worry. Put it on your nuts. You're going to die, bro. There's no worse pain.

That in the hernia you mentioned, probably. Well, hernia was less pain than being flicked in the nuts really gently. Okay, so it was like a war of attrition on your... Being flicked in the nuts very lightly is one of the worst pains in life. It's more annoying probably than... But it puts you down.

Yeah, yeah, it does. Put you down. Oh, like, you're not saying like a flick. You're saying like a back hand. It's called... It's called... A ball check. Cup check

Walcock Hancock Whatever you call it regionally in Queens You also talked about a guy When did you reference Angel Because this was You brought it up in here

And this is one of my favorite Conversations No I know way too many angels That can't be trusted I believe And if you're named Angel You're the furthest thing from that Yeah

It's because I just feel like A Queens Angels gotta be like a Virginia Chad You know Like I don't fucking trust Chad's Yeah, Chad is fucking addict. Chad is a no-go. But you don't really have-

No-fly zone with Chad's. Is there Chad's in Queens? Yeah. Angels. Yeah, the Angels. Angels might be a little bit more dangerous with a knife. Right.

Chad's the guy that's going to like just fuck you over with some, on some white collar. Yeah, some bullshit. And Angel, he's... You just can't trust Angel. You don't know what he'll do. Yeah.

Terry off Mr. Wonderful, one of my favorites. You say you're drinking juice like Jack Lane. Yeah. He's another guy. I got the Jack-Lane juicing, man. So talk to me about your juice and your health routine that you're wrong. You want me to talk to you about Queens infomercials?

Yeah, talk to me. All right. John Baystow. Yeah. Fitness Made Simple. Yep. One of my heroes. Yeah.

He has his own regiment 2.30 in the morning on MSG. You catch his commercial. When the games are over and you fall asleep, you wake back up with a remote on your Exactly. You wake up in the morning, you go to have a glass of fruit punch. Yeah. And you're like, I can start today. Yeah.

I can fucking. I'll start. It's all about starting tomorrow. I'll start. Or starting on a Monday. Because it's a clean slate. Right. I've always learned to start Monday.

Right. Well, don't start Sunday. Definitely can't do it on a, what are you talking about Sunday? No. Sunday's the cheat day. No, I agree. You do juice. I read that you like cold.

Yeah, juicing is fucking phenomenal. So tell me about what's your favorite. I like all the health. I love health food. It might not show, but I do. Yeah. I don't think it's nasty. I love, you know, a good almond shake with just banana and almond milk.

I like a good fruit moss. Right. Like Jamaican style. I don't know that. Yeah, they use like this crazy moss, Irish moss. It's a protein that's found in the sea and it's gelatinous. Which sea? Any sea.

All sea. It's just sea water. It's just unbelievable stuff. It's like algae a little bit. Pretty much, but it's no flavor. Yeah. It's just like. like clear gel, banging.

Mix that with raspberries, all kinds of fruits. It's a power-packed drink. Do you worry about the sugar? We don't add sugar. So it's all not added. There's no added sugar in these juices. It'd be pointless.

Can you make me a list of shit that I can leave with and get healthier? Yeah, I got you. Because I might look healthy, but on the inside I'm dying. Well, I'm the opposite. I'm dying on the outside. But on the inside? On the inside.

I'm fucking. A pillar. A pillar of health. and excellence. You talked about Lelaine. I thought that was funny as fuck. You talked about Shippel Airport in Amsterdam. I think it's one of the best in the world.

It's, I mean, I've been in Shippel Airport for 11 hours straight. It kind of sucks. Yeah. Because it's gloomy. It's gloomy and it's also a weird color. Heathrow, if you just look in the shop, it's really nice. It's a nice spot. I mean, I haven't been to Dubai.

I'm sure Dubai has a much nicer shopping. area. I'd love to go. But if you're fucking caught up there, you need some sunglasses. You go right up in there. I go to Hermes to get a nice towel. I always buy Hermes towel when I'm in Heathrow for school. Got to have it. I like towels. Essential.

For sure. I like a good towel. So, a good towel. A good pillow. What's the point of the towel? Are you just sweating? Nah, it's when I... Oh, you're saying it's like... I was thinking like a towel you drape over. No, I'm talking about like a massive beach towel.

like shimmying between the cheeks to dry off. One really curious reference to me was Slash, and we talked about it. You're a Guns and Roses fan, right? I am. What's the best Guns and Roses song? Is it the song you're referencing? Is it November rain?

Is it? I mean, that's the most epic one, I'd say. Yeah? The most, it's a pretty epic song. And it's the best video of all time. I would agree with you on the video. Best video of all time. It's not the best song of all time,

but it's the best video of all time. I like Civil War. I mean, of course, that's crazy. Yeah. I mean, just, I remember going into my cousin's room and just seeing the red and blue discs. I was like, yo, this is fucking crazy. And then you put it on. What the hell is going on?

Just life changing. That was also around the time I found out about Altered Beast on Genesis. Yeah. So it was the same time. So playing Altered Beast, listening to use your illusion was a monumental building block of my life. Really? I'd say so.

That much of a turning point. I'd say so. So. You could be mine as one of my favorite joints from Terminator 2 soundtrack. Really? Are you kidding me? Okay. Yeah, I know.

It's a fucking heavy duty one. I know, the score. Edward for a long on the back of the thing. The entire score was just fucking. It's tremendous. I guess my question about references was, do you have an encyclopedia that you sit there and you're like, I write all these figures down, like,

whether it's Natron Means or Christian. child or somebody from the 90s and you just pull from them or do they just pop in your head? They pop in my head. Yeah. Natron means is a good one. Natron means will be a good one. San Diego Chargers. So I actually wrote a couple references for you.

You can tell me if they're dog shit, maybe we're used them. Maybe I've already used them. I don't know about this, bro. All right. Let's see it. So I think it would be really cool if you referenced Don Beebe. Don Beebe is a good one. I haven't referenced Don Beebe.

You could say that somebody was moving the white fast through Buffalo like Don Beebe. Probably won't say that I can figure it out What about Sean Landetta? Sean Landetta's a good one too Hang time I mean that's We're talking about one of the best punters

to ever live right Yeah he probably is Along with Johnny Hecker Of the Rams My former teammate And Ray Guy Ray Guy is amazing Let's talk more about

Who do you want to reference Who's like in your mind That you're like I gotta get this guy out In the next five years Well Kirby Puckett for sure I've already mentioned old and Polonis.

I've already mentioned Rvitas, a bonus. I'm thinking about, I've already mentioned Detliff Shremp dries in. Oh, I go through the Slavic players.

You've got to get all the Eastern Blocke guys. All the Slavic players. Who am I looking forward? I mean, Don Bibi was a good one. Don Bibi would be a good one. Great receiver.

He also caused the fumble of, what's his name? Leon Lett at the one yard line in the snow. Yep. Well, give me some other ones. I don't know, man. Like, you got some old Bimbo Coles.

My man already mentioned Bimbo Coles. Oh, somebody mentioned Bimbo Coles. Yeah, Rock Marciano. Oh, okay. Fuck. Well, I mean, like, Bimbo Coles is a good one. I'll give you a team.

You pick somebody you would want a reference. All right. From the 90s or the early 2000. Dallas Cowboys. Jay Novichick. Jay Novichek. That's perfect. Unsung Hero.

How about the Grizzlies? I mean, big country, probably all my men, Felipe Lopez. Oh, damn, dude. I didn't even have that poll in me. What about the Eagles for the Philly fans down south? The Eagles for the, I mean, probably Jaws. Jaws. Jaws?

No, you know, Reggie White's a good one. Yeah. What are there some good ones? Well, there's Jerome Brown. Yeah, of course. God rest his soul. Of course. Clyde Simmons.

Clyde Simmons was my coach. Do you remember Clyde Simmons? I don't. He was one of the guys in that iconic, D-Line with Reggie White, Jerome Brown, Clyde Simmons. How about let's go baseball? Let's go Diamondbacks. They beat the Yankees.

They did. That's when I stopped getting a Yankees fan to be specific. Luis fucking Gonzalez with the broken bat single up to middle off mole. It's a tough one. Yeah. You know, it's a good couple of Diamondbacks you could reference. Was Craig, was Craig Counsel on that team? Craig Counsel.

I don't think he was on that team. It was on the Marlins. Craig Counsel will be a good one. about Spreewell choking somebody? Yeah, that's, I mean, nature. Nature already mentioned Spriwell choking someone on the song with Big Pun and Nori, band from TV.

Okay, so you got a lot of-line. PJ Carlisimo has already been mentioned by Cam. I mean, there's so many, man. There's so many. It's all about the situational things. You gotta think about like Art Test and going nuts in Indiana. He was justified. I mentioned Mahmoud Abdul-Raw.

I saw that, yeah. A.K. Chris Jackson. Uh-huh. O.G. Bobby Jackson. From the Kings. Yeah. Bibby. Yeah, Bibby's.

Bibi's a beast down. Did you hit Divok yet? Yeah, Vlad. Smoking cigarettes on the sideline. That's what they did when my dad played, too. That's what I'm saying. Newport's on the sideline at halftime. Just a totally different time.

So, well, I appreciate it, man.