Green Light with Chris Long - Aidan Hutchinson! NFL Rookie Year, Lions Outlook & Dan Campbell. UConn Wins Natty, Caitlin Clark & Angel Reese.

Episode Date: April 4, 2023

(2:20) - UConn Defeats SDSU Handily for their 5th Title in 25 Years, Kyle Long Wins Tatty Champs, Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese and Jill Biden's Invitation (21:46) - Aidan Hutchinson on his Rookie Season, Dan Campbell, Improvements for Year 2, Billie Jean Dance, Rookie Dinner, the Lions Offseason and Beating the Packers in WK18 (44:31) - GL Softball and Best Trash Talking Memories (1:05:41) - Succession Episode Two Best Quotes (1:13:42) - Mailbag: 5 Finger Discounts, Ways to Die and Weddings Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b   Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42   Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1   Green Light with Chris Long:   Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Next Step. In Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey, and Virginia, call 1-800 gambler. And at Michigan, 1-800-270-1-1-7-1-7-1-7-8-9. Tennessee, y'all too, 1-800-8-9. Welcome to the Greenlight Podcast. We've got Aiden Hutchinson on today. Chris and Macon talked to Aiden about his first year in the NFL, his biggest plays, what he's gearing up for in year two, Dan Campbell, what makes him so exciting,

and how much fun the Lions have on and off the field? March Madness is completed. We have a national champion. It is the Yukon Huskies, and they were not challenged on their way to the throne. Chris, Dr. Fax, and Kingston do a little breakdown of the game, reminisce on a few bets lost and commiserate with Kyle as he thinks up a good tattoo

for his tattie champ's loss. We also talk about the Women's National Championship, the trash talk that came out of that game. We end things with a succession episode two recap and a little bit of a mailbag thanks to y'all for answering. Now, y'all please enjoy the show. All right, congratulations,

is you con you motherfuckers low key going to blow them out yeah you were right the whole tournament um I bet San Diego stay big tonight kind of because I was like hey fuck it I'm on the precipice of losing all my football funds from the fall which was nice to feel that way for a while

like I was good at this and then I was like you know what I'm just going to put it all on the line on the Aztex because Kyle my brother, if Yukon wins the national championship, he has to get the tattoo. He was the last remaining tattie champs. Yeah, so I just wanted to ride with Kyle.

I'm not blaming you, Kyle. But I took, so I took San Diego State plus eight. Okay, bad bet. That was for big. I figured San Diego State and the over or the under, not going to both strike out. I had the under bought to 134. Okay, there's a minute.

left in the game, Ucon's up 16. I have largest lead under 16 and a half. The whole game was flirting with 17. There were multiple 16 point leads. They got the ball up 16 with a minute to go. Kingston says, Yukon's gonna dribble this thing out and take the shot clock violation. And the guy with the braids, lo and behold,

is like, nah, fuck it with three seconds ago, I'm gonna go air Jordan. Point one seconds when he got fell. Yeah, when he decided to drive though was three seconds. It was like he was in the air for a long time. The ball was. That was a bad beat. And then he missed the front end of his free throws.

And it all came down to the second one. It hit the rim. The under could have pushed. Could have won the 16.5 point under bet on the biggest lead. It was just, it was a meltdown. It was a disaster. And it was a shitty game. Shitty game.

Never was close. Shout out to Yukon. It was never close because Yukon, they were just a bad matchup for, everyone in the tournament this year. Like they had a big that was very active. And on both ends of the floor and tonight he was too much. And he was the X factor in the game.

And San Diego State, they had a big, like for in size-wise, they had a big. Menta, they had him down there. And I just feel like I'm not taken away from Mensa, but he didn't play the game that. He didn't play big. He didn't play smart. He didn't play the game that you want to play.

It's the championship game. You're playing against one of the best bigs in the country. I feel like your game should have been elevated a little bit more. But not to take away from Sonogo, he played at a level that I just think that it made mental look the way he did. Yeah, well, that guy, Sonogos made a concrete. There were a couple times where I thought for sure if somebody was going to be able to box him out or front him up and he just would not move.

Dude, the guy's 6'9, so he's not some giant NBA lottery pick. but the fucking guy had heard him compared to Kofi Koburn. I don't know if you liked that comparison, but I think Kenny the Jet made it. So I'm off the hook if it's not a good one. But in that, I mean, he's got that old school center type thing going. And he was skilled, though. He was more skilled than Coburn.

If this was the mid-90s, he'd be a top five pick. So that guy was too much. Then they had a fucking white guy who was 7-3. Altering all these shots. They were hitting every three-point. Making everyone. Like, you know, San Diego State had multiple four-minute spans, like five or six of them where they didn't score. They went 11 minutes without a field goal.

The first half. It can't win. And I felt good about it at that point because I was like, okay, they're only down 13. It's called gambling delusion. Yeah, you're right. You were like, it's okay. I was like, yeah. How many teams can go?

Honestly, I want to congratulate San Diego State because how many teams can go 11 minutes without hitting a bucket and be down 13? Right. And there were some national champions. I mean, so congratulations to San Diego State on that distinction. Four stretches of three plus minutes. It's a miracle the game was that close. Props to Ladee.

We got to get props to-Ladie stepped up. He stepped up and he played hard. Yeah, he gave him a little bit of presence inside. And they still gave the people in San Diego a moment. They'll never forget Lamont Tremel's game winner in the final four. Yeah, it was amazing. Question for you guys, if you're a company

investing in these basketball players, don't you think some of those women's basketball players from the weekend like Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark might be getting bigger checks? Absolutely. I don't think I don't think Caitlin Clark is ever going to have to pay for a dinner again in Iowa for the rest of her life. She could do GMC events in perpetuity there and make bank. But think about if you have.

Angel Reese, earlier you were talking about 50,000 followers going into the weekend. Now she's at a million. Yeah, exactly. Like that you can monetize that. Price just went up for her. No, but you know what? Price just went up for all. Honestly, the amount of attention that Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark are getting,

the price of all women's star basketball players are slowly going up. Yeah, it's like, free agency. And at the end of the day, as bad as all this other stupid controversy stuff is going on, it's good that it's being talked about because they're both all-star players. Yeah. And it's just shining a light on women's basketball, which is ultimately good overall for all. Here's how big the women's game is right now.

We weren't even talking about that buzzer beater yesterday. You know, it was like Iowa LSU, which was a blowout. I mean, it was, they had Iowa at arm's length the whole game. Over 12 million people were watching at one point. It was a great game. I mean, even though it was a blowout, it was like LSU's bench, the whole thing. The refs, the refs marred the game a little bit, but yeah. But yeah, you're not even thinking about the buzzer beater in the final four.

So we're going to talk about it later in the show. But I, you know, like I just was so bummed that, hey, you've got women's basketball on this grand stage and it's getting so much attention. And we've got a race war on our hands over fucking John Cena. Tony Ayo. The Tony Ayo started. He was the first one to do this because when he was appearing in the G-Nit videos when they first were popping, he was on the run.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was one of his dances. Even though it probably wasn't the best move for him being on the run. Oh, no. It, it wasn't. He ended up getting caught and doing this time. So I thought John Cena started the race war.

But that was just so unfortunate, man, because, you know, like we've got these two gals doing the same damn thing. And I do think there were some people who probably didn't see the elite eight and got blindsided on Sunday when they went to tweet. They thought Angel Reese was classless. Yeah. And they were like, fuck what? I walked right into that one. I mean, this is the classic keep that same energy. Yeah.

It's templated for this situation exactly. I do think there's some people who probably don't like for sportsmanship. I'm from a generation where people talk shit. Yeah. And I'm fine with it. I'm fine with them playing off. The girl from South Carolina. That was my only gripe was, you know.

And so like my whole thing is Dawn Staley, like after their team lost, she talked. And everything she talked about and how she didn't want her team to be portrayed is what the fuck is going on now with Andrew Reese. And it's, and it's bad. And it's bad because a lot of people are trying to be, they're trying to be clueless to the fact of that that's what's happening. And they're trying to be like, oh, that's not what happens. But media, they just take a chance to villainize certain people when it's not really credited. And it's just like, like you said, it's, you got to, everyone has to keep this. same energy. If you're going to be upset about something, be upset about it all the way around.

You can't pick and choose. You can't pick and choose. And if you're not, just move on. Exactly. And I think that's how I feel is like, I'm like, man, let's talk about the basketball game, man. Yep. I had this fight with my sister because she's not a, she's not a Moki fan. And so like by that it's just like trickle down. Like she doesn't like LSU. She doesn't like this. And I'm just like, yo, like that's not fair to the girls. You like used to be a player. Like you could not like the coaching. That doesn't mean you have to like automatically in your head like program yourself to be like well like everything they do is amplified. It was a weird situation because mokey, bad character. Yep. We were supposed to be rooting for Angel Reese in the aftermath of the game.

Everybody loves Caitlin Clark, but it kind of feels like by proxy she's like some villain when both these gals are just, they're competing. They're competing. Yo, they're competing. It's what, It's what on the other end for NBA, we love our NBA players. And it's so funny. Like, I've seen a meme. And it's like anytime anyone says anything remotely bad to Clay Thompson, he does that. And like, and we love that. And they show that on TV.

Dane time. Anytime he hits a long three, he does this. And it's just like, at the end of the day, why is it marketable? And we love it for men. But for women, we're all up in arms. And it's like, holy smokes. Like you can't be doing this Only some people are up in arms

There was a collision course coming I mean because some of these tweets Uh were just I mean you would have thought This gal punched a baby Exactly Um and all she did was was exactly What Caitlin Clark did a fucking week or two

It's an event they'll talk about Like in the sociology of sports Going forward and years later And it's just like yeah Like people trying to like personally attack her And then like dig like dig into the story And like it's just certain things. It's like, yo, like, calling her, like, what, Oberman, whatever his name is, calling her a

fucking idiot. I mean, Keith Overman. I think that's a lot. And then coming back to say, I don't even watch women's sports, I don't even know anything about it. It makes it even, like, and the way people are backtracking and, like, explaining herself, I feel like they're digging the whole deeper, and they don't, and they don't even realize it. I like that Shaq told him to fuck off. Exactly. And then Shaq told what you call it. Overman was probably like, oh, he said some, He said some shit to pornoid too because pornoi had some had some slick shit to say. You can't, like when you put that much English on it, you can tweet negatively about an athlete. But when you put that much English on it, people are going to ask questions.

Exactly. And the fact that people still don't understand that, that's really the issue. It's just like people just feel like, no, I can say, I can say what the fuck I want to say. Or they might understand it and do it anyway, which is even worse. Exactly. And that's more of the point of that that's how someone in my position or someone like right now on Twitter that's African American and they might feel a certain type of way about what's going on. When you see someone like that tweet tweet that, you know what's going on. You know you're tweeting this for a reason.

Like you want to get the reaction. And just like you're saying, probably you don't care. Like the negative reaction you're getting, you don't care because the people you care about. they may feel the same way or like who really knows but it's a it's stupid because at the end of the day move on at the end of the day we all love sports and the women's NCAA for the first time ever had the most best ratings their ticket sales are more than the men's and realistically like I think everyone could say it as good as like this championship game was for the men's the women's state the women's bracket they stole the show this year

Schedule the rematch right now, next season. LSU versus Iowa, make that a regular season game. It would be one of the highest feud games we've had. It would probably go through the roof. It will probably go through the roof. And at the end of the day, as much as it's negative right now, I think when it all boils, dies down, this is going to be one of those things that, like, well, for women's sport,

it's probably iconic. Like, people remember this. I feel like at least for a little while. Like, it's not something that people will forget, So, and I think this is true. Jill Biden said that she's going to invite Iowa to the White House as well. Okay, Jill Biden said that after, it almost felt like an noted white first lady. Or it was an onion article.

Yeah, that's why I was like, is this real? Joe Biden was like, hey, after watching that game, I just want to, I just want to invite Iowa over for dinner to. You know, like, let's invite both teams. No way. And it's just like, come on, Joe. No, she didn't. Yeah, like, come on. And they're actually going to do it?

No, they're not going to do it. I don't know. They can't do it. They better not. They do that. Oh, my goodness. Is it because Iowa's a swing state and the elections coming up?

No, it could be. Which is fucked up. Which is crazy. But they're politicians, man. You know, that's how they are, dude. But do you take it? Do you go? No.

Like, if you're a player, like as a team, if you're a captain, do you come and like, guys, we can't go. It's a terrible move. Terrible move. It takes away from LSU. It also, it's like, it's uncomfortable. It feels like you got gifted something. It's bad politics on the other side also.

Yeah. What you're talking about? So Joe or Jill said this. Jill. Jill. She was at the game. Okay. Okay.

But you know what? But did she, I know some of these people that were complaining about. Did she have power like that? Jill, I don't know. Not technically. Okay. I know some of these people that are complaining about Angel Reese are tied up a pretzel over this because they don't like participation trophies, but they like the White

Iowa women's basketball team. But they don't like the Democrats. So like Jill Biden's what's kind of woke tactics is this? Swing voters. Yeah, and it might just be about the swing voters. It definitely is. Wild. That is wild. That is wild. And if they can't get the whole team in, for real, for real, if Jill gets Kailan Clark in there, that'd be enough to spark the uproar. Even if she gets, if Katelyn Clark ends up taking a picture in the White House between now and next season,

I think that ends up. Iowa turning down the White House. If there was a pay-per-view event of Angel Reese playing Caitlin Clark one-on-one, do you think people would watch it? Name a boxing match right now that would do better. They would make so much money. Can they do that with that?

NIL like YouTube circuit. I think they got a hold of them and did an NIL. Yeah, maybe maybe we should try to, we should try to. Caitlin Clark minus 150. What'd you say? I said Caitlin Clark minus 150. I think she's a little favorite. No offense.

I think Angel Reese is a great player. Yeah, no offense. Yeah, it sounds about white. Yeah. I think that would be way more exciting than. Yeah. Maybe right now more exciting than Jake Paul and in KSI. That whole thing.

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Oh, I made a trillion dollars on this fucking gimmicky. sports beverage probably. What am I going to do with my money and my time? I think I'll go get knocked out on paper view. That's what's wrong with the world right now. Everybody wants a piece of this attention pie. No, you're messing it up. They built a YouTube. You can't say that because you never know. When we build green light into a multi-billion dollar organization, then you're going to want to maybe make an energy drink. You never know if you got bored. No, but my question is why go fight on YouTube. I think they're bored. Okay. Like, I think they're bored and I think it's like it's competitive. Jake's been fighting his ass off. It's, it's something to be competitive in. You got

beat. You got beat. Decision. Yeah. By Tommy Fury. Yeah, I'm a real fighter though. Yeah, I know. I know. Yeah. Anyways, we've got Aiden Hutchinson coming on. Did record earlier today with Macon. It's too late at night for Macon. So night shift here. You know, Kyle walked out with a couple minutes go in the game, thinking about what kind of Yukon tattoo he's going to get. I vote Calhoun portrait because I think it's just kind of gangster looking. And then, I mean, like, could be Whitey Bulger. I don't know. But I think also like a Sonoco logo with Sonogo instead of Sonoco would be pretty tight.

Does it have to be a basketball related? No, it can be anything with Yukon. So he said he might just get Husky, the word husky written. Randy Hetzel, please. He's a terp. Here's Aiden Hutchinson. The NFL drafts coming up. Have you all been keeping up with the potential prospects?

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first pod. What was the, what was the deal, man? Was there anything that surprised you about, you know, NFL life or kind of developing as a pass rusher at the next level. Yeah, you know, I think that first year was, it was a big evolution. You know, it was a lot of learning. I mean, you know how those rookie years go. And, I mean, coming in, my first game was against Philly against that old line. So that was definitely, that set the standard for me, you know. And then kind of all the other old lines I played after that, you know, it was,

obviously Philly had one of the best old lines of the league. was to be able to compare, you know, even a mobile quarterback like Jalen going against other quarterbacks. It was, I thought it was a really good first game. But kind of even my evolution through the season, man, learning so much, they finally let me stand up and stuff towards the middle of the season and stuff. And that, you know, we talked about this last time I was on here, how I felt that I had more vision and I could use my God giving talents a little bit better.

And, you know, it showed the first game. I think I had two sacks against the Cowboys when we had made the schematic change and other changes to the defense. And so, yeah, you know, a lot of ups and downs. But, man, I learned so much. And it was such a great year. And we ended it on such a great note as well. So, yeah, man, I just, I can't tell you how fired up I am for a year, too, though.

Give me some advice for a player. that might be going on hard knocks his rookie year coming up. Like, what are the do's and don'ts that you came away from? By the way, you did really well. That's when I was like, bro, this guy, this guy's got it. Because like to get up there and sing, was it Billy Jean? Yeah. And actually like to dance a little bit and to get like rave reviews,

I thought that was great. Give me some do's and don'ts of hard knocks for any players that might have to do that for the first time this year. For any rookie, anything, any, any, rookie song, rookie dance. My only advice is, or my only thought going into it was I refuse to get booed on that stage. You know, I was, I'm never, I'm never a guy who's going to go up there to, to give the crowd a bad performance. So, um, for any rookie out there, man, all, all I'm saying is just whatever, whatever you're doing, whatever song you're doing, all they care about is that

you're doing it all out, you know, and so that, that was my mentality going into it. And, you know, even Hard Knocks being there, all the cameras being out at all times. Honestly, I thought it was kind of fun to be able to, you know, click on there every Tuesday and watch the production of all that. I thought it was pretty cool. One of the teams that's eligible to be on Hard Knocks this year, and maybe you could put your vote in because the four that are eligible, because it's based on like you can't have a new coach,

you can't have, you have to not want to playoff game in a certain amount of times. There's only like four. it's the Jets it's the who else is it Matt do you remember well one of the teams is the Jets the bottom line is the Jets have maybe Aaron Rogers coming to town a guy you played against last year would you think the Jets would be a pretty entertaining hard knocks team or is there some a team that you could think of that would be better no I think the Jets

would be a perfect one you know I think they have a lot of rising stars on it and obviously if Aaron ever goes as he as he has he declined declared yet that he's going to ask you like you guys this division's wide open anyways you guys were competitive last year but if he's gone that that leaves a pretty big power vacuum or guys on the lines kind of like following along with this story and are y'all as confused as I am? Honestly, I feel like there was so much buzz going on with Aaron Rogers about two weeks ago and I haven't heard anything since and I don't know honestly I don't even know what's going on I I mean we were two and o against the Packers last year. So I don't have, I don't have anything, you know,

bring him back. I'm all about a little competition. I know he's going to bring it and stuff. So honestly, if he goes, if he doesn't, I'll still be here. You picked that you picked that man off, dude. That was crazy. That was I did. I did the first. You're pretty good with the ball in your hand, too. Like you look mad to. Yeah, dude. It took a little getting used to, but I got a couple more interceptions to get a little more used to it so yeah what what what was it like learning to pass rush like obviously I didn't have really long arms coming out and I know you don't have like those like 40 inch arms right some guys have and so my question to you was going to be did you notice the length of some of these tackles and like as you as you adjusted and evolved like did you work

on ways that you could get longer kind of without having that that maybe elite length that's some people talk about some of these prospects having. And then turn in the corner also. How did you learn to turn the corner tight at eight, seven, eight yards? Because that's a skill that I think it takes rookies a while to get. Yeah, you know, I think, I mean, a lot of it week to week. I mean, you're playing that there is no drop off in talent. I mean, obviously there's some elite tackles out there.

But I feel like the baseline for offensive linemen, you know, that talent level doesn't drop. And you talk about the long arms. And, you know, to be honest with you, I didn't, I didn't feel it, you know, entirely. You know, I think in college, you play some guys with long arms, but they're still underdeveloped. So, but when you get to the NFL, they're more developed and they're more savvy. But honestly, I never, that was never a point with me where I was like, I was like, kind of struggling because I was like, damn, this guy's got long arms. I can't get separation.

That was never the case for me. And so, yeah, but it's, I mean, I think, I mean, example one would be, would be Lane. I mean, going against Lane week one. I mean, that was, he's so long, but he's so powerful. And he's got those little, those grippers on. Underhand punch, too. Right, right. And so it's really for me, the biggest thing going week to week was, was kind of styling my game plan around how they shoot their hands and how they

set and stuff like that. But I never, never really crossed my mind with, with arm length and like, I mean, you know. What, what was there a move that you, uh, that you picked up that you didn't think you had in your, your toolbox, like that you learned in the last calendar year? Yeah, I mean, I've always been trying to implement the spin move in my game. Yes. I and I never could hit it. And I, because I never understood like, I never understood when to, you know, I just spin in a little phone booth, you know, but it's, it's all about the timing of it, I've realized. And I kind of picked that up. And honestly, I just ripped it in one of the games and got a sack off of it. And kind of never looked back. And then I started implementing some outside spins, some inside

spins because naturally, you know, I grew up. I was, I was a dancer. You know, I danced for about three years. So I got that little rotation. So I figure, you know, might as well make some use to it. Talk about James Houston and having a bookend and how important it is to have the young talent you guys have on that front because it is a fun group and I don't think he got enough credit either last year for the production that he had. Yeah, no doubt. I mean, it's just the more the merrier. It was kind of like that at Michigan with David Ojoabo and myself being a two edge guys. and now, you know, James really like emerged out of nowhere last year. And it's, it's like, I mean, that's only going to help you win more games, you know.

And ultimately, that's the goal is to get a ring and to win that Super Bowl. So, you know, if I'm not getting there, James is getting there. If James is, I am, and it's kind of the same dynamic as me and David Ojobeau back at Michigan. But it's exciting for sure. The Lions start one and six. They finish eight and two. more importantly, it looks like a cat just walked across the floor behind you. Now, are you a cat person?

Are you also a dog person or just exclusively a cat guy? And how do we feel about Hasbola hitting his cat? Yeah. Hit his cat? Yeah, dude, you miss this shit? I didn't see it. I'm more online than you. That's not good.

No. So I am an animal lover, man. I love animals. And so when I was in college, I wanted to get a dog, but it just wasn't, this is my senior year. right, but I could, it just with the amount of traveling and they're so high, a lot of dogs are super high maintenance, just you got to take them out. So I grew up with some cats. So I bought some little kittens at the shelter. They're three months old. And, you know, they, you don't have to take them out, but you get some free snuggles at night, you know? Yeah. And, you know, they might

randomly attack you as cats do. Also important, what are the cat's names? Cats names are Midian and Momo. Midian and MoMA. So I got two of them, but they're not brother and sister. but they're they're kind of bonded together all right talk to us about dan campbell and his caffeine addiction uh how's it like being around that guy all day is is is his is his energy what it looks like throughout the entire day oh yeah i mean every team meeting such a treat man being being in one of those i mean being a player i'm just happy i got the privilege to be sitting in on some of those meetings because he's pulling some analogy out and, and, you know, reworking it into some game time scenario. So, yeah, man, I'm all about it.

And what you see is what you get with Dan Campbell. Did you notice, like, as the year went on, situations where the player in him came out? Like, you know how you've got coaches that never played in certain scenarios. They might not know the right thing to say. But I know that one thing that he has as an advantage is his experience. that come out at different points during the year? Yeah, you know, it does. It does.

And it kind of gives you a different insight. Like, you know, for example, I think we're sitting there near late end of the season when we were on fire, you know, on this wind streak. And he kind of, we were in the team meeting and he was kind of just like, well, boys, you know, a lot of you guys may know this, this could be the only shot right here, you know, that you'll ever be able to make a run in the playoffs, make it at the Super Bowl, because he understands, you know, how few and far between, you know, you can have a great team and lose in the, in the divisionals and the playoffs. And then, you know, that great team never gets to see it. But we were so on fire late in the season.

And it was one of those things that I think we all believed we would have made a run in the playoffs. And having that kind of coach's insight, just kind of telling you that, you know, this could be the only opportunity to get to that Super Bowl. And I think we all understood that in that moment. How would you classify Jared Goss's personality? Because he's a guy that's been criticized before. You know, like I've always been a big fan of his. I think he's handled every situation the right way. And it was really great to see him get a little bit of credit this year

because you guys had a good football team. But he was a big part of that. It wasn't like you just had so many weapons that you plugged him in. And it was a system. I thought that he made some really nice throws. but as a leader, what's this guy about? What's he like in the locker room? Yeah, you know, Jared's one of those guys that he seems laid back, you know,

when you see him. He's kind of the Cali boy with the, you know, he's kind of got that demeanor about him. But man, he's got so much attention to detail. And I've walked into the quarterback room a couple times. And just to hear them talk as I like to hear, you know, how those guys think and stuff like that. And, man, the way he breaks stuff down with defenses even, I mean, it's no wonder why he's picking defenses apart, especially last year, man. He had a great year, and it was fun watching him. And, you know, I think he doesn't get the credit that he deserves a lot.

And he's a guy's a stud. Were people excited to see James and, you know, get healthy and score that touchdown when he came back? And, like, was there buzz around the facility, around the? this guy, like wait until he kind of gets out there. Oh, yeah. I mean, it happened right as he scored that touch now. We're all sitting there on the sideline because we know how fast he is. And I mean, he was still not 100% coming off that knee. I mean, those ACL guys are not 100% until, you know, a year and a half after. So, so yeah, I mean, we're all sitting there on the sideline, just stargazing and really excited about about next year. The internet says you were

born in Plymouth, Michigan, went to high school in Deerbourne, Michigan, went to college in Ann Arbor, Michigan. You work in Detroit, Michigan. Will you be retiring to Kalamazoo or Saginaw? Yeah, like where you go, where's 40-year-old Aiden Hutchinson? Who don't do it? Forty-year-old Aidan Hutchinson is going to be somewhere in northern Michigan, we'll call it. We'll go, you know, Traverse City or summer. There's a lot of NFL guys that go up there in their summers. Yeah. Like a guy used to play with Brent Selix up there. A few guys, they say it's beautiful. It's like...

Northern Michigan in the summer, you can't beat it, you know? Yeah. All right. I got 5DNs since 1988 ever drafted second overall. You ready? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Julius Peppers, Chris Long, Nick Bosa,

Chase Young, Aidan Hutchinson. Yeah, that's good. It's not a question, though. It's not a question. 35 years, only five, only five dudes at that spot. Did you feel the pressure being, you know, like high pick, hometown kind of thing? Like, yeah, I bet you had a lot of tickets. Right, right. Oh, yeah.

Every week, dude, I bet people were coming out of the woodwork on you. Yeah. No, it was ridiculous. But honestly, I had my mom handle all of it. I said, mom, you got the ticket situation. You talked to the lion's person. But, no, I mean, I did feel it a little bit at first, but I feel like, I got into a little flow state where I kind of, I mean, I was off social media.

And when you're all social media and like you don't know what people are saying, I don't really care. It makes you not care, you know? And I was kind of sitting there and you kind of, you know how the NFL season goes. It's just week after week, very kind of repetitive, get your Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. And it's like, I didn't really give a shit what people were saying, you know. And I may have had a not so good game.

And then, you know, obviously I. could think, oh, yeah, people are probably talking some shit about me right now. But I'm like, I guess what? I'm not going anywhere. Well, there's a lot of stat watchers. Yeah, there's a lot of people that just watch the box score and shit and they don't watch the game and they're watching the ball. Right, right.

You can have a game where you got five, six pressures and you were whooping somebody's ass and you were good in the run game. But unless they see that sack, which was good because you, because you had your big multi-sac games. You had a really great number for the year. What was it, seven and a half or eight? It was nine and a half. Nine and a half.

not to have sacks so you're knocking on the door a double digits that's a great year but you know like sacks come in bunches and you can go through these slumps where you're in your head about it and you're looking at the fucking internet like that's not going to help you never were a name search or were you did you ever name search i i did when i was probably like a junior at mission but once i hit my senior year and like i played my i played like a great game against wisconsin feeling great and then i go and search my name people are talking shit about me yeah i got to get off this dude. It's like it's as a D.N. It's that life. It's like you could be playing your best ball. Like my best game technique wise was a one sack game. But I had the three sack, the two sack,

the two and a half. Like like all about like it's just ridiculous. The life of a D.N. and sacks are such a tedious and delicate thing that things need to go perfect for. Yeah. And then also like you could have a three sack game and fall into two of them. And people are like, you played the game of your life. And I'm like, my. I played better last week. I know. Like my first sack against the commanders was I was on a, I was, I was, I was, rushing as a three type, but I was doing a little loop containing rush.

Yeah. And Wentz just fell into my arms. Yeah. And I'm like, dude. At the end of the year, they all count the same. Yeah, you're damn right. Wins will do that. Wentz.

Yeah, my boy, Carson, will do that. How'd they hit you on the rookie dinner, man? Did they get you? Not bad. It was, honestly, it ended up being a, 11,000 total. And actually, we had a second rounder, too. So I ended up splitting it.

Oh, wow, dude. NFL's gotten soft. No, no. I mean, we got some good vets. The vets, yeah, the vets are getting younger. You know, you don't have these old dinosaurs. Like, when I came in the league, it was a bunch of, like, 35-year-old men, and they were just fucking mad.

Yeah. So our bill was like, our bill was like 30. Oh, was it? Yeah, and I had like 20 of it. Well, it's funny. It's funny. It's funny. A lot of the guys on our team have had, like,

traumatic rookie dinner experiences. So it's like all these guys have been haunted. But so like they don't want to rewrite that. So it's kind of, it was kind of nice with the vets that we have. There's one or two ways. You can break the cycle and be nice to the rookies or you can be mad that it happened to you and feel like you got to do it to the rookies.

That's what all the vets did to me. They were mad. How about David Montgomery, man? I heard you say that he was a motherfucker to tackle. And then how did you feel when you guys saw the news that, he was going to be joining your team. Yeah, I mean, the guy is just a little bowling ball, you know, and I missed a couple tackles that, you know,

I wasn't too happy about it at the time, but now I am happy that we got him. So I think he's going to be a great player for us. And, you know, I'm pumped. I'm excited about that, yeah. The eye black, it goes over the, sometimes goes over the left eye this past year, yeah? Usually it was typically the right eye in Michigan.

How do we decide that? You know, I was sitting there before one of the games and I realized that I don't want any like permanent eye damage on one eye. If I'm going to get eye damage or something, I'm going to even it out, you know? Smart. Really smart. Really smart. Scouting report is true about you. Smart player.

Any goals for the upcoming season before we let you go? Like anything you're working on or, you know, because I know year two, they always talk about sophomore slump, all this shit. You hear about the rookie wall. You hear about the sophomore slump. You've avoided the first one. How are you going to avoid the second one? and what kind of things are you working on? Man, I'm just better in myself and working on mobility, flexibility.

I'm working on getting as strong as I've been. And I think I've found some really good guys to get me to those places. And, man, I'm eating great food right now. It's, I think just being this, this be my first NFL off season. I'm just doing, I feel like I'm doing everything, you know, the right way. I'm, you know, just doing the right things in order to prepare myself for a big year, too. What is Aidan Hutchinson weigh today? That's the last question I have for you.

This morning, no water or anything, no food. I weighed 260. So I was, you know, that's a, I usually am around, you know, 260 to 265. Okay, there we go. Lean. Yeah. Leighton, Huffington, man. We love watching you play.

Hope you come back again soon and go lions. bro. We hope you guys take the division. Take the whole goddamn thing, bro. I'm excited to watch you guys. Hell yeah. All right, guys. Thank you. Good news.

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These shades have been rated five stars by over 200,000 people. Hey, softball is tonight. 6 p.m. We're playing one source mechanical. Fuck. They are 2 and they have some NFL blood on their team as well. Who? Do you know Russell Bow?

He was a center for the Bengals, Bills. Oh. He played in North Carolina. His sister's on the team. Hmm. Well, so, you know the thing, make, were you at the bar the other night when the guy from Pablo Sanchez came in? Yes.

So we met the real guys from Pablo Sanchez. I know I talked about this last week, which was a team that we're supposed to play soon in softball and I was at the bar and the guy comes stumbling up and he's like, we're going to kick your ass. We're coming from over the mountain. You know, the boys are coming from Waynesboro. He then gave me a tennis in. That was very nice.

And I was kind of intimidated to show up Tuesday. We're not playing Pablo Sanchez. We're playing a bunch of electricians, which is actually worse. We lose. We go to the bar this Friday. It turns out Saturday, it turns out the guys from Pablo Sanchez are not from Waynesboro. And in fact, the guy that stumbled up to us two weekends ago was a sub. So I think that that's a code break.

If you're a sub for a softball team, you can't talk shit on behalf of the softball team. You can't use we. You can't use we're coming for you. Yeah. Because your status on the team is uncertain. Somebody gets strep throat. Right.

You know. There's a lot of clarification required this weekend on what trash talk is appropriate. Yeah, you're right about that. You're right about that. So it's all appropriate. Listen, there's so many layers to this. First off, Caitlin Clark.

giving, you know, Haley Van Leth, the, you know, the John scene I'm totally fine with on multiple levels. Absolutely. Haley Van Liff kind of annoys me. Yep. Caitlin Clark does not annoy me. Hey, playboys. Yeah.

So what's interesting is that I'm Caitlin Clark. I'm her biggest fan, which is cool. It's a nice, it's a nice honor to wear. She's just terrific. Yeah. But I'll be honest with you. After the final four game, when her team starts, like, dog piling at center court and she's up by the scores table like look at me look at the name

on my back sort of thing doing the d-wade yeah like i'm not crazy about that just like i'm not crazy about the length of angel reese's taunting i love a good trash talk but i think short and sweet succinct efficient streamlined is always the better form of trash talk with the possible exception of like sam cassel doing the big balls dance like he could do that all the race. He could do laps around the cord, and that would be awesome. But I think if you keep it, if you keep it tighter, you're in better shape. It went past the point of, oh, she got her. That's pretty good, too. This is kind of annoying the length of it. Hey, hats off to LSU and their bench. I mean, there was a gal on LSU that was like eight for eight in the first half off the bench. Including a banked three right at the end of the half. That was the moment I knew I wasn't going to win the bet. But like, you know, um, Angel Reese, the only thing I disagree with her on is that playing that gal off against South Carolina was disrespect. And, you know, we allow this in men's sports. If there's one time to make up, you know, motivation and for it to be kind of like,

I don't see the straight line between your slight and the motivation. It's after a championship game. Like, I get it. Like, people make shit up to motivate them. I just wish you would have said I just don't like Caitlin Clark. Because obviously she just doesn't like Caitlin Clark. Playing a gal off who hit the backboard with 20 feet of cushion. Okay.

Seems like a sound strategy. Do it in the NBA all the time. You know, like it would be a stretch if it was your teammate, but to be like, yeah, that's my SEC sister. Like, come on. So my only thing was, hey, I think it's ridiculous that we're talking about two competitors, two great athletes on the biggest stage, doing a little trash talk.

I mean, I hate that that's the front page news story when all these gals put on a great show and vanquished Virginia Tech in the process. That was one of the biggest things. We didn't want Virginia Tech to have a national championship. Overall, it was great tournament for women's basketball, but the irony was that their refs can ruin the games just like the men's reps can.

And somebody had a conspiracy theory. They were like, hey, this whole professional wrestling pitting two gals against each other and thus two cultures against each other is a perfect cover for the officiating being absolutely dog shit. Dog shit officiating. It was bad.

And they could call a tech on Angel Reese at the end there. Like, I like talk as much as you want, but at some point the reps should probably call something. No, but like, honestly, I don't want to go outside today. We are talking about sports, so like trash talk is a part of sports. It goes deep back in our trash talking history. Muhammad Ali 1960s talking shit

I love it an artist you know we get the the AI stepover one of my favorite trash talk moments of all time you have you know

T.O. going to the star uh... that's a great one that might have been too far three in that game I think that was too far that almost started a fight it did start kind of a fight I mean a guy

had a 30 yard running star and just decleted him the thing about the star is it kind of transcends football. It's almost like religion down there. And that's kind of like taking the Eucharist and high stepping out the church. Like it's just, it's, it's, um, to those people, it's more than football. And I think Tio knew that. And I think it was brilliant execution. Reggie Miller, given the choke symbol to the Knicks comes to mine. Fair game. Yeah. I'm a Knicks fan. Fair game. Matumbo with the iconic finger wag that then got put back into his face. Then JJ started doing it after

for all the PbUs. So you mentioned Wade, Wade and LeBron like doing the fake cough to try to make Dirk because pretending as if Dirk was pretending that he was sick when he actually was sick. I mean there's so many great trash talk moments in the history of sports and it just

when it comes to the men this stuff doesn't happen as much where we just delve into these really, really 2023 conversations that listen these people obviously some of them are acting in bad faith online, but I do think

we're taken away from what was a great tournament. Hey Pimp, what's your proudest trash talking moment of your career? I can give you mine if you want of my career. Yeah, but it's probably not going to be as good as yours.

No, mine's not very good. It's the only one I can think of and it's pretty bad actually. But in some of the bigger tennis tournaments you'd have a chair umpire and had another cat arguing a line call. Cat thought the ball was in, the ball was out.

I called it out. The chair umpire agreed. Cat's going, we're changing over. Guy says to the chair, he just continuing to bitch and moan about the call. And then I said six inches. And he was like, huh? And I was like six inches out.

And I give him one of these, you know, about six inches. You know, thumb to pungy. I guess that's about eight inches. So I get about, I get about eight inches. And I said about about eight inches out. And I just kept it moving. You know, I didn't even sit down for a changeover, you know, you know.

It was only six inches out. That was it? Yeah, that's it. It's the only thing that came to fine. Okay. See, I think this is, this is why I posed the question to you, Chris. I think you're going to have the better answer,

but I wanted to give a little filler so you could think about it. I don't know, man. I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good at it. Like, I'm not terrible at it. It definitely has. happens in football. There's definitely some trash talk that I wouldn't share on the show. Brandon Brooks always tells this story. We had a guy named, I don't want to say his name, but he was a tackle

for the Eagles. And I whipped his ass in one-on-ones, just like training camp, you know, a bunch of people around one-on-ones, which is a really like, it's an alpha male situation because high tea. Yeah, the tea is really high during training camp. And that's like an oversimplified drill in it's important. Everybody's like, oh, all the reporters come over there. And, you know, you can win and lose in one-on-one pass rush, and it might not be a big deal, but people make it a big deal. Anyways, I dog this guy out. And I didn't say shit, but he walks over to the other side because he's also a left tackle sometimes. And he says, why don't you come over here and try that shit. And so to that, I said, I made $75 million on this side. I don't have to walk anywhere. You come back here. And there was a lot of

That's good. There was a lot of that. Yeah. And I almost felt uncomfortable I won so badly. Yeah. Nice. But we still tell that story. You know, for the most part, I like to have fun.

And my policy was I'm not going to talk shit unless somebody talks shit to me. And then the floodgates open. And I'll try to hurt your feelings. But like, you know, there was a miced up moment where I was playing the Broncos, God's team. and one of my brother's former teammates was to tackle, a guy I knew pretty good, and I was kind of, I was dogging him a little bit, and between the second and first and second quarter,

we're walking together from the 20 to the other 20, how you've been? He's like, man, he's like, I'm just, I suck right now, blah, blah, blah. The guy's like opening, I mean, like, and hey, I don't need to talk shit to him to feel that I have the upper hand in this situation. I know the rest of the game is going to be good. And I kind of comfort him.

And I'm like, hey, man, you know, keep working. There's, you know, it's a matchup game, you know. Today it's just not working for you. But you're a good player. That can be worse than trash talk. Well, people, people shared that a lot. And it almost made me uncomfortable because it made me look too nice, you know. So usually, though, I'll be pretty cool.

Then something will go down and I can switch pretty quick. A lot of those sacks aren't on you. My technique's terrible right now. No, it's not. Yeah, I said something nice. You were the one miced up. Yeah, I guess I was miced up. And no, I didn't do that to sound nice.

You don't want to sound nice on the football field. Like, you don't want, yeah, I don't want that to be people's takeaways. Like, Chris Long's such a nice guy and the charity. He must be a total fucking twinkie out there. You know, like, no, that's not the case. I just don't like being mean to people if they're not being mean to me. Can I come clean on something? Sure.

I totally made up the tennis story. Did you? Like 10% of the way in, I thought. I thought I could make it funny or cool. Really? Yeah. But you've told it to me before. No,

no, no, I lied about all of that. Previously, like you're continuing to lie about this story? I don't think that's a true story. You told me about it before. I don't know if I've ever,

if I ever played in a tennis match with a chair arm. Well, some, oh, we go ahead. We had roaming, um, because I did get,

yeah, yeah, yeah, I broke a racket and got a, yeah, got a point penalty one time. Yeah. But no,

I believe I made all of that up. That checks out, giving your track record. Yeah. You said that you're trying to hurt people's feelings sometimes. Sometimes. Did anybody ever hurt your feelings? No, but sometimes they can play mind games with you.

One of my D-line coaches was on another team. And the guy, there was a defensive lineman on field goal block or some are protecting field goal. And we got into a shoving match after the deal. And he's like, well, well, redacted said you're overrated. And I'm like, you know, and maybe he did, even though I helped him. him get paid because I had like double digits and all of a sudden he's got this great job. But like, you know, whether he said it or not, kind of annoyed me. Yeah.

I was just like, you know, the thing that annoyed me was like, I got a glad hand this motherfucker now. Yeah. You know, probably the guy just kind of said it to fuck with me because I would do the same thing. There's also a technique in trash talk where you try to pit the other, the two guys and the other team against each other. Right. And if they're really good and they're veteran guys, they're not going to go for it. Like, you know, one time Red Bryant came up at midfield and we got into a full before we played the Seahawks.

It was kind of a contentious matchup. And dudes were like bumping into each other shoving me and Red Bryant get into it. And first I'm like, sir, you know, this guy is fucking huge. I'm like breaking my neck to look up at him. His breath smells like, you know, like a giant's breath. just the whole and all I could think to do was was be like,

yeah, you're not very good. You know, I respect him and I pointed to like Brandon Meibang or something. And Meabang was like, we're not doing that. You know, and that doesn't fly. You know, there's kind of a code. You don't want to break the code.

Like usually you shouldn't talk about somebody's like family. Shouldn't talk about somebody's kids. And if somebody's talks about your teammate, you're then, that's also fair game, right? Like, they've opened themselves up. Sure. Yeah. Absolutely. And that's why you have like Fletcher Cox begging Brandon Graham not talk to Trent Williams. Right. Because it's like now Trump Williams is going to be mad at all of us. All right, here you go. Say you're playing doubles match, yeah? Yeah. You're serving. Yeah. There are two people on the other side of the net. One's returning and one's standing at about the

service line. You've seen this. Yeah. Now, if somebody's really shaded over to the team, like bouncing up and down, trying to get your attention while you're in your service motion. That's no good. Yeah. So what you do in that case is you try to hit the person with the serve. Now you hit the person, it's actually a point.

It's it, you know. So a little brushback. That's more of a brushback in baseball, which has quick games now. Less so trash talk, more of a tactic, more of an intimidation tactic. Trash talk mostly hurts when you, when there's true.

That one was true. No, I know. I'm saying it just popped into my head. Yeah, like when you know it's true, when they're pointing out, like they say you're kind of slow. And at this point, I was cool with Stephen Jackson, but we weren't tight. Like me and Steve were really tight now. But like. 39.

Yeah, one of the best. And I had pissed him off in practice because when he would get in a really bad mood, sometimes we would try to rile him up more. You turn to this Brahma bull. Dangerous. Like everybody backed up. you know but like one time i punched the ball out in practice or something and he was not in the mood and he was like yeah that's why you're a first round pick you haven't done shit this year and i was

like fuck duly noted you know and uh and i thought about that on the way home and all i was like damn dude like you know stephen doesn't fuck with me but you know then the next day he he comes up on solicited and he's like brother my bad that was just over the line and i i i I think you're a good player. It's just, I just was having a bad day. And at first, but there's a hint of truth to it where you're like, absolutely. Absolutely.

Like when you get pissed off, you're willing to say something that's like more true and cutting than you otherwise would. Yes. Which also it goes to show you, you know, when you talk about like, you know, I think that year I had like four sacks. A lot of these players, you know, the temperature in a building for a high draft pick,

Trayvon Walker's going through it. Kavon Tibido, who everybody's like, hey, what a big success story this year. I mean, people want to see him in that building probably be the guy. The standard is high, and the heat can be pretty high too. But yeah, trash talk with a little tinge of truth

to it can really hurt. Into this three-setter, it was a knock-down, drag-out, get to the net, shake hands. Kat says, good match. And I said, yeah, for me, you know, not so much for you punk that's good

yeah that's good do you make that one up yeah yeah that's a lie that's a lie probably more trash talk in my life in real estate actually than in tennis what's an example of real estate trash talk like what would you say to besmirch

someone's reputation um you know I'm the real estate agent that took a shit in the bathroom before we we shut up to that house yeah and we took the high road you know we didn't well we

We acknowledge it internally, but we didn't make him or her aware that we could smell his or her insides. Which is kind of a code break. Are you allowed to shit in a house that you're selling? It's interesting. It's a high wire act. I'll think of a couple open houses where nature calls and you just better hope the place stays empty. You know, I'm pretty efficient in that department. The thing my body is best at is letting me know when it's time to do that.

And we're in and out in two minutes. Yeah. For serious. Wow. So, yeah. I don't know that it's a, it's a code break more so than it's more so. It's just really, really exciting and dangerous game. Yeah.

I do a nightly bomb drop and I like to do it in the front hall. You know? Why the front hall? I feel like a king. You know, the front hall is not a very private place. 20 hours of the day, whatever it is, you know, at 11 p.m. You're kind of the king of the castle. You're kind of the king of the castle out there.

And also away from your wife, everyone. You could smell it. Yeah, exactly. And to be clear, it's the bathroom in the front hall, right? Not literally. Cowboys, I want to make sure. No, I'm not fucking, I'm not putting a cow pie on the welcome mat. I can't believe you all are going to face Russell Bodine's sister.

Yeah, that was, that was pretty funny. Reid said there was NFL bloodlines on the team we're playing softball coming up. I hope that's all on the pod. You remember Russell Bodine? Hopefully she doesn't do the You Can't See Me like all these other female athletes are doing. Just get JP to flip his bat.

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Check it out. Did you guys see succession list? We did see success. Well, I saw success. I did. I too. I thought it was weaker than the first. Oh, I liked it.

Stronger than the first? I might have thought it was better than the first one. Okay. Might have. Because we saw Logan, his character, I mean, bending and twisting in ways

that we haven't seen him do before. And like there was a revitalized vibe with him where he was all of a sudden, I have to compete with my kids. His kids were pushing him and making him younger. The way he was he was probing Tom to see if he could trust Tom. You know, he was looking for a new right-hand man.

He was leaning on everybody to see if they, and then when he went on the newsroom floor. Is 40 the same as 15. No? Ah, numbers got. But that was that presbyes where usually, And part of, part of me was like, ah, is he gonna, is he gonna flip out on this poor guy?

No, he just started motivating the fuck out of him. You're all fucking pirates. Yeah. And you could see, that was one of the best speeches I've seen in the show period. And I really would put it up there. I don't want to overstate this. That was an elite motivational speech on a TV show. And it showed, I think, why Logan Roy is where he is.

because that was the guy that got him there. We've seen mostly this, this, you know, kind of like depressed older guy who's who's mad at his kids. I also thought the line like, you're not serious people, I love you, but you're not serious people,

is the truest thing he said the entire show. And so I just really like the... Like you were saying smack talk with some truth in it. Yeah, and they all just sat there like, oh fuck, that was kind of true. Kendall said that to Roman before. That's been said before. A serious person thing.

That's been said. That's why it hurt Kendall so bad probably. Yep. Because he was like, fuck. Oh, I'm not serious. Hey, Buddha. Nice Tom Ford. That was a good one.

Do you know that in Buddhism, your greatest tormentor can also be your greatest teacher. Yeah, there were so many great lines. I'm going to put aside several hundred thousand dollars and I'm going to dedicate it to destroying your life. That was great. That was great.

My favorite scene was Greg, talking with Carrie. It was amazing. Unbelievable. She says you were going to pull them apart like a piece of string cheese. Yeah. I thought it could have been better. I was really good enough for that that scene. What about what about buddy's laptop? You know, he couldn't open his laptop. It's just so relatable. It was lighter. It was lighter. I liked it. But but also there were some real developments. The amount of time they let that clip be up on the big screen before he could hit escape was perfect. It was like three quarters of a second.

But there's nothing worse. and when you've got something on your laptop. Uh-huh. And, you know, you can't open the laptop. Yeah. You know, there should be a setting that, like, suspends all noise. There should be a button on the top of the thing. Yeah.

Like close all files. Yeah. Guys name's Hugo. That's free. Yeah, Hugo. I love that character. Same. Glad to see him back.

Yeah. The Rebel Alliance? It's the Rebel Alliance. What's it like out there in those hills? I fucking love it. So good. I loved the karaoke scene too with the... In the private room. Yeah, Connor's singing.

But again, it was. Singing Leonard Cohen. There it was. It was light. And then it was Connor walking out and being like, I don't need any love. That's my superpower. And everybody was heartbroken by that. It's funny because the guy's like a side show. Yeah. But, you know, like there was a lot of...

There was a lot of heavier stuff. And there was also some light back and forth, which I really liked in this episode. Me too. Me personally. Fuck you, Greg. I want to be on. on TV tomorrow. ATM is my home. He was like, he was like, yeah, but what if she says? Fuck you, Greg. Yeah. And then, uh, and then, uh, let's see. This is an incredibly delicate piece of diplomacy,

Greg. It's like Israel, Palestine, except harder and much more important. And it was. Y'all want to hear something really funny that I say all the time. Yeah, go ahead. In real estate, sometimes clients will be like, hey, like, so sorry. I know it's a Sunday afternoon. and I'm like, you know what, nah, like I'm on call. Yeah. Like a doctor. Yeah. Just more important.

Yeah. You know? Mm-hmm. Because you don't go to a doctor with the biggest investment of your life. No, I know. Yeah. Yeah. So that's a funny thing I say.

A Conor line reminded me of, of, of, of something you kind of say. Uh, he wanted to go somewhere fun and real, away from the fancy dance, a real bar with chicks and guys who work with their hands and grease and sweat from their hands. their hands and have blood in their hair, dude. That was a great line, dude. That's Dirty Nellie's. It's a real bar. There aren't too many of them anymore

in Charlottesville. And you know, this being my presidential campaign, when I'm away from the pod, I want to be with the regular folks. Yeah. Yeah. So. I might be the fanciest Dan

in that bar. I have a collared shirt on my person. Yeah, so you came out. We watched the Final Four. well we watched the second game we were all there for the first game yeah I was with my children you came well you came out with your friend who's friends with Bono yeah I came out I came out my uh my Bono friend yep that was cool he's a great guy yeah I want to docks yeah yeah I don't people that are friends with Bono you can't really talk about right uh three suds um I like seven I was feeling it yeah I do have a grievance on it on the table yeah man you

walked in you were like hey what's up I talked to your boy and then you're like does anybody you to drink and I held up my Miller light that was empty like yeah me and you nodded and you're like yep got you and then you went to the bar you got two beers and you put them both down in front of yourself and drink them both well that's true I don't think I's it must not have registered clearly that was when I first entered yeah like you first sent in we said what's up and then you're like zambay need a pop I didn't see your I didn't see your hand motion I intended to get two for myself I would I would have certainly gotten one for you. That's my bad.

Let me send you $350 for your troubles. All right. I say, by the way, Ramadan, can't be that hard. You know? Oh, one of our friends is upset about all the anti-Christianity talk on the pod. Oh, really? Yeah. The pastor?

Nope. Bad back back. Oh, well, backy's going to be okay. Backy got really mad at me. Bad back, Becky got really mad at me because his mom. has been to an exorcism in Medjugoria, which I have no idea where that is. I just can't forget it because that's so cool.

Nice of Nazareth, I think. Yeah. Well, she's been to a real exorcism, and I laughed about it. Yep. And I was on the river on mushrooms, and he got mad at me. Stop laughing.

And he, you know, he turned it into, you're talking shit about my mom? No, I'm talking shit about it. I just don't know. Call my mom a liar? Yeah, you call my mom a liar? Yeah. I'm like, yeah, well,

You know, I'd like to have his mom on the pod to talk about the exorcism of Magigoria. Mm-hmm. I think that'd be great. We need to have somebody who's done an exorcism on the pod. We do. I was at a little kid birthday party yesterday. Backy was there. Yeah.

And then their family's talking about heading to church. It was Palm Sunday, as you know. And Becky's there in tennis shoes and jeans. And I'm like, we're going to church and tennis shoes and jeans these days. He's like, yeah, like way different. And I thought, well. to like Southern Baptist. That was like the biggest barrier of entry to me was the code and the tie and the 9 a.m.

Every day pretty much. They're talking about going on the afternoon and in a pair of jeans to church. We should do an in-house mailbag. Just start asking each other questions. How do you think you're going to die? Oh. Cancer. Yeah.

I asked somebody that yesterday or like at the bar Saturday and he was like, you know, I think, I think like a bear would be cool, like that sort of thing. And I was like, you know, it's going to be melanoma. Yeah, right. That's a different question. It's going to be something pretty like, damn. If I get Alzheimer's,

just let me do the pod. Just let me do the pod. I'm going to come and be, the pod every day is just going to be like, who the fuck are you? You know, like, it's going to be great because I won't have to remember this Caitlin Clark and Reese saga. We're coming here and talk about, Talk about living in the present.

I'm just going to pitch Randy Scott to you every day. Somebody's going to be like, Tate Frazier came on while you're on vacation. You know, I don't remember that. No, I mean, and that's probably how I'm going to go. I mean,

that was my guess. That or like some sort of facial cancer, you know, putting all these smoke stacks down the gullet over the years, you know? I'm hoping for a plane crash. Plain crash?

Are you, kidding me, dude? No. I just watched the MH370 documentary. Interesting, right? Spoiler alert. They don't know a fucking thing. I know. That's the best part. Who's there? There are all these... M.H.3...

Anybody. The Imnarsat, the fucking Malaysian Airlines, the Americans. Somebody knows something. The pilots are dead. Oh, right. I'm just saying, generally. Spoiler alert. They're in the oceans. Oh, as far as the investigation, nobody knows. Yeah, yeah. Russians. Like, basically, the whole

documentary is, like, like, basically, the whole documentary is, We don't know. Yeah, we don't know. Six-part document. I'm going to say three episodes. No, it's long. But you don't want to die in a brain crash, dude. I don't want to know about my death.

I don't want to die of like heart disease, cancer, something boring like that. That's bad news. It's not because it's boring. It's because it's long and painful and arduous and hard on the people around you. I can give you something that's three minutes quicker and a lot less traumatic than a plane crash. Okay. Overdose. Yeah.

No, because you don't feel sympathy. for the overdosers. Oh, you need sympathy. That's fair. I would feel sympathy for you if you did way too much cocaine. You would feel sympathy, but not like the general public. Who cares what the general public thinks you're dead? That's a good point.

Age matters. How old a guy are you? Like 70 something, late 70s. He's going to fucking Bermuda. I think if you overdose in your 70s, you get the sympathy. But that's just suicide. Well, yes, it is. Or it's also like, I'd like, I'd love.

like to try that stuff never did it i stick by my plane crash or train crash you probably to have a heart attack anyways before you hit the ocean that's the thing about these plane crashes you get to have like an amazing last moment with a stranger think how intense that moment would be hmm i'd be like somebody's tapping me to take my headphones off i'm like nope like where are you flying to Bose. That's the thing about, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

That's the thing about a plane. That's a good ad. Yeah. Yeah. Things going down. Wait, the plane is crashing and you don't even notice as you're watching. You slosh just taking apart. Noise cancelling.

There's a guy tapping you on the shoulder to tell you the plane's crashing. I know the plane's crashing. I'm just trying to listen to Bach. Is that a? Sure. Johann Sebastian. Yeah. Sebastian Bach.

Yeah. Bows, die in peace. Exactly. Admen. Mm-hmm. What a plane crash. Come on. Why don't they make the whole plane out of the black box?

Stole another one. Hey, hey, Matt. In-house mailbag, yeah? Hey, Matt. How's your social life going? Fantastic. Yeah?

Yep. Good. Go on. I've been hanging out, lovely lady, a listener of the pod. It's going great. She's a Philly, John. Mm-hmm. Oh.

A little long-distance relationship. I think that's about as much as you'll get out of me right now. Yeah. Auto-erotic is asphyxiation. That is a thing. Yeah. Not personally familiar with it. That's like a three out of ten.

It's probably a ten out of ten when it comes to like, you know, the actual experience. but you know you got to leave you got to leave that legacy behind not there's anything wrong with it something people talk about it's kind of like when I was younger and I actually was into that smut on your laptop I used to wonder hey if I had a heart attack that'd be a real shame because you somebody just walk in oh he's dead oh what the fuck yeah yeah no I've had a long-standing agreement with Kingston actually that he's to destroy all my devices upon my death.

Yeah. Just gonna walk into his house, be like, hey, Kate. Yeah. Ignore what I'm doing, just grabbing Macon's laptop. Now, to be fair, that was from a bygone era. I think I'm clean. Oh, I'm clean too. You can look at my, you can look at all my devices.

How would you destroy his devices? What's the very good question? Thank you. Probably should ask that way back when. Put a drill through the hard drive. It's the only way to do it. Smart. He walks in with a drill.

Excuse me, Kate. Sorry for your loss. Good morning. Gee! Hey kids. Meanwhile, I noticed the language you said you used to describe it when I was younger, which could be like two days ago. Hey, no, no, no, let me use this, uh, this language. Six seconds ago.

Yeah, explicitly. Many moons ago. Mm-hmm. When I, uh, indulged in smut. Mm-hmm. Okay. I'm a Christian now. Yeah.

Who likes taunting. Yep. I'm a little bit of a white whale. Okay. Like all taunting. All taunting matters. Okay. Um, seriously.

We've got a fucking race war going outside over women's basketball. All taunting matters. This country is fucked. We are fucked. We are fucked. Oh, this, this from a, there are some on the internet, a listener.

top three to five things you hope one of your friends never asked you for 3% That's funny I get that one That's really funny Yeah

You want to sit in on this podcast Oh friend Friend Don't want to I mean The occasional like move Can you move this? Shit I did that for you the other day

That was, you, yeah, you'd, you'd. Okay, hold on a second. You moved. Blair. Two small couches with me. They were like love seats. Yeah, yeah. While you were over.

Oh, that was like a week ago. Yeah. I was just bringing up that one because it was more recent. Yeah, I've, I remember when you had me come over and move all your furniture with you. Yeah. That was like an extended. Yeah. I have, um, also attending a wedding after 35.

Oh, I still like weddings. Yeah, but they're like always right in the middle. of when I'd like to be just not doing weddings. Being drunk and high somewhere else. Like on a river. You want to do like a river wedding? Totally good.

But all these people want to have all these warm. People need to do their weddings. After 35, you should have to do your wedding on like the worst weekends of the year. No sports. So marches out. A muscle loop.

Starting to get nice out. I don't want to go anywhere in April. You have to do your weddings in the brief period after the NFL wraps up. Like February, all February weddings. Destination or no? No destination. You got to do them like on Zoom or on a river. Or on a river on a river. You got married June 22nd. That's right. I want to be the first to wish my wife a happy anniversary. Hey, I'd be remiss. I'd be remissed. if I didn't wish happy birthday to your niece,

Kyle's daughter, April 4th. Thanks. That's good. Cox me. Turning one. Good uncle. Yeah. And,

I got my notes and everything. And Meredith, Meredith Gunter. Her birthday, April the 4th. Or 4. Anyone? Or 4. Read them from the web. This is from UMBC football.

How long can you sit in a car with someone without talking? Hours? A whole thing. ride? Yeah. Yes. Depends on the hearse. Depends on the person.

You don't talk at all. You think the guy driving the hearse is allowed to listen to the radio? Sure. You think so? He's not bothering anybody. That's interesting. He finds out. I wonder if there's a code.

There's a code there. I bet if you're actually in a processional type of deal. I bet they keep it quiet in there. Yeah. Because what if you're playing something that the person would have hated? Yeah. Like don't be driving me around playing, I don't know, fucking Jason Aldine. Right.

I think the sign of a broad. Of a good, hers driver. I'll be like Jesus in there. I'm back. You know? Which is ironic because Jason is definitely singing about Jesus. Yep. Maybe coincidental.

Pat's Tillman wants to know the worst landlord you've ever had. I've never had bad landlords. I have been a bad tenant because in college I was what you would call not responsible. And they would contact me and say, hey, your lease is coming up. We're going to show the unit. And so one day in particular, there was a big knock on the door. And I thought, oh, no, I had just awakened. And so I ran to the front door and they of course have a key and they're about to open the apartment and I just put all my weight behind it, which at the time was sizable.

And the poor person who's with prospective tenants like she can get it open like a little. She's like it's unlocked. I have no idea what's happening. And I'm just behind the door barring the door. And then this goes on for the longest three or four minutes you've ever experienced. And they didn't they didn't get through. they didn't bust through. Like, well, I'm so sorry.

We'll have to try again later. That's insane. Well, I mean, it looked awful in that apartment. It looked awful. I was barely clothed. There was food everywhere. It just wasn't going to work. They never asked what was going on.

They never found out. They thought like the door. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah, they didn't know. And I picked the place up and let them see it another time. You know, not like a bad person. I just wasn't ready for a showing. Defending your, your honor.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Are you going to see Molchad Doma and. DC. This was the Russian band that in January, I saw that they were playing on Saturday, and I said, I really want to go to that. Let's buy four to six tickets, me and the boys bus some tickets.

And then Saturday or Friday, I was like, hey, what time are we leaving? And they're like, for what? Three months from now. So it turns out that the show was in April. And I'm not going to the show. You've lost interest. No, that's a total wintertime show, dude. You think I want to go to them?

You're not going because of the show. month of the year? Eastern block post-punk show indoors in April the fucking trees are blooming. That's really funny. Is it this Saturday? Being there with a leather jacket. Can I grab those tickets off? Yeah. No, I'm not going to that show. Speaking of tickets, don't forget, we have the Grateful Deaden Company show coming up before too long. Yep, what's the date on that? Aren't they called Deaden Company? Yes. Okay, I'm a big fan. Uncle John's band. Yeah? Yeah, that's a song Code break, doing a number two in a public restroom

while on the phone talking to somebody Actually, yes You think? I'm uncomfortable Well, what's it matter? The guy's shitting either way. I don't like it. I think the code break is on the end of the person calling somewhere.

I don't want to hear you tooting the glute flute while we're talking about business. I don't even want to hear the echo. Wait, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think the question was posed like it's a public bathroom. I think it's fine if you're talking just to mask the fart noises. Yeah. Why are you having noises during a movement?

Y'all aren't doing this right. Yeah, we're supposed to have noises during a podcast like you. rank least to most difficult get a hit off otani score on yonis sack versus lane so i think scoring on yonis is the easiest correct correct you know yeah a little shoulder shake maybe i don't know hit him in the balls can throw up a lucky shot you'll make one at some point yeah i could yeah i could hit a jumper um then it's sack versus lane which is really hard very few people have done it but like getting a hit off Otani Mike Trout couldn't do it

but you know about you could you could start to time it up I mean if he's throwing you 500 straight balls yeah you would just start swinging every single time getting a sack off lane is the hardest one maybe I think so you only have a couple seconds with Otani you I think you just put the barrel of the bat like over the plate you know

it does say hit though more than just contact yeah right right you I would rather like take my chances on the base base path than swinging as hard as I could have put it in the outfield. You also have the quarterback part of that equation. It's not just getting past lane. You also have to

tackle somebody who's an athlete. Why do you hate the Rams that we've been over this? Like there's not a group of people that I feel less either way about than Rams fans. In L.A. I always get it from the L.A. people.

Yeah. Like I just don't. Remember there was like an old couple in St. Louis who would always wait for you after the games. Yeah, they'd wait for me after the games. They were great. Hope they're good. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, they used to drive like 16 hours to see our games. Unbelievable. Damn. Fucking 20 minutes was enough for me from their football. You could barely make it 20 minutes.

I don't hate the Rams. I'm going to explain this one more time. When I retired, when the Rams caught me, I went to a team that I won a Super Bowl on. So thank you to the Rams and Les Needs and Jeff Fisher. And then most importantly, the team left. So I don't really feel like I have a home in L.A. with the Los Angeles Rams. I think that's reasonable. Absolutely reasonable.

They abandon the city. They're going to call you yes, man. That's what they're going to say. I was a St. Louis Rams fan, and I'm not an L.A. Rams fan. Who do you like? When you say the Eagles, then they're really going to call. Yes, man. I'm coming around on the commanders again.

for each of you when's the last time you stole something and what was it? Ooh, that's good. I steal, I don't know, is it stealing to take the toilet trees from the hotel? It's ambiguous. I don't think so.

I don't think so. I don't think so. Any of that stuff, I think, is fair game. There was like a box of pastries here last week and there was one of those raspberry things in there and I took one. And I didn't ask anybody anything. I just kept it.

I took one. Those were for Nate Ebner. Oh, they were for Nate Ebner. All of them? You're trying to kill them? Jeez. When I was a kid, I stole something from a gas station. When I was like six, I took like one of those five, ten cent candies.

Back in my day, it was five, ten cents off the desk. And when I got outside of my mom saw that I had it, she made me go in, apologize. And then she, I mean, it was bad. Yeah, I told her I was going to call child services. Which I think she responded like, you are just a little fucking baby. Did you go on a stealing spree on a baseball road trip? No, what I did on a baseball road trip was, well, there were two of them that I got dismissed from. There was one in Florida where there was this kid and he was older.

And I'm not going to say his name, but he let me borrow his ID to go get Swisher Suites. I was 13 at that point, and we were in Jacksonville. We were standing at the Sea Turtle Inn, which was great. I can still smell the sand and the tap water. I love those trips to Jacksonville. We go down there and get our ass kicked by, like, Bishop Kenny, and holes and all those, like, Major League Baseball Farm Systems in Jacksonville. And at night, I want to let a little steam off and smoke a swisher suite in an alley.

So I take the ID in there and buy the swisher suites. I'm getting ready to, and the woman's like, hold on a second. and let me see your ID and give her my buddy's ID and she's like, that's not you, you wait right here. There's a cop that pulled up right as I entered the fucking 7-Eleven and needless to say, it wasn't good for your boy. The cop did drive me back to hotel, white privilege, and dropped me off and met my coach,

who was a former UVA, a football player, and I'll never forget being on the elevator with him. And he said, I stuck my nuts on the table for you, and you just smashed it. Because my head coach hated me. And so anyways, I proved him right. And then there was another one where I was playing for John Grisham's operation down there, Cove Creek.

John Grisham, you know, the writer, calls this place home and loves baseball. And so he set up this big ballpark called Cove Cove Cove. Creek and we had all-star teams which I routinely made. And we were on a road trip to Atlanta and me and my buddies walked to a gas station. We were 14 and grab, I don't know how we got the beer because we were 14, but we got like 12 beers and we sat in the parking lot and drank them all, me and my buddy Steve Wickline. And then we decided to get on the telephone and call all the rooms. including one of our coaches who had to do the right thing

and drop the dime on us to the head coach the next morning. So I was on a bus ride back from Atlanta knowing that my dad was, my dad was waiting for me, picking me up at the ballpark. That was the longest bus ride. I'll give it to myself. I pulled the fire alarm at a Baltimore museum and, you know, everybody had to leave the museum.

And then the fire department came. Yeah, I was real little. It looked interesting. And I had to apologize to the firefighters. One field trip to Williamsburg. I found the movie Jade on TV, which is almost like soft corpillar. The gal from Men in Black, who was a smoke show, was in Jade. And I think the plot had something to do with her having sex a lot.

And so I was going up and down the hallway, knocking on people's doors. telling them channel 17 and that that Williamsburg trip is no longer so I've ruined a couple chaperones hate me yeah it was not great on trips well as parents are you guys going to chaperone some trips for your young children

fuck no no no no not a chance I don't want to be the guy I don't want to be the guy I don't want to have to deal with other people's kids You know, I really don't think I'm going to be good at dealing with other people's kids. But you have good experience. You know, you could pull from that one father who said the dog didn't poo in the pool, but I know a little boy who... Yeah, I also... Do you ever hear this story? Yeah. Yeah, when I pooed in the pool and blamed on the dog. And then the dad called me on at the next sleepover. I mean, it was crushing, dude. He crushed my soul.

A little turd floating around there. I saw, I can't, I'll never forget when I, I try. turned around and saw that thing floating like a brown buoy in the ocean. And I was like, fuck, that's me. You know? Couldn't hide the evidence. You have to turn around and see it to know that you had done something. It was like it was floating over by that little like filter thing. I was like go in.

Clutch. Yeah. You should have pushed it in. No code brown today. No, it didn't go in. Yeah. Needless to say. What are some of the best and worst things you've witnessed at a wedding?

Man, I had a buddy that got married and we knew it wasn't going to work out. So that was it. Just the wedding, you know? I was like, man. Good acting performances by you? It was one of those things where, you know, where they're like, hey, anybody in the crowd have a good reason. And we all have good reasons.

I don't know if you've ever been to a wedding like that. I'm not going to name who it was, but they're on to the next wedding now. So they need to refer to Article A of Weddings after 35. Only February, only on Zoom. Or on a river. Or on a river. I really love weddings. I've seen some bad toast.

Oh, I love a toast. Yeah. I love a bad toast, too. Yeah, you can't really go wrong. No, especially when I don't know the person. It's some gal from New Jersey or something. that I just met. I don't have a problem with watching them squirm up there.

I love a dance floor. They don't know they're squirming. Yeah, I love dance floor. I'm an introvert and I love a dance floor. Dance floor, it's like a safe space. Get you freak on. You can kind of do any dance move at a wedding. Yeah, shovel.

Okay, you got a daughter. One day I might have a daughter. What occupation you want her to marry? Like her to have her own occupation. No, I know. But like what guy, what's this guy do for a living? Or girl? Yeah, sure.

God damn it. God damn it. All right. Go, go, go. What a great question. Thank you. Veterinarian? A couple reasons why.

These cats, no pun intended, make bank. Yeah. All right. And you always have questions for a veterinarian. and you're like, fuck, it's Sunday at 8 p.m. Do I really have to go to the emergency vet? I wish I could call Joe, my son-in-law. Until one of your kids has an issue, like a high fever,

and then you're like, can you help? No, I only do dogs. That's a problem. Yeah. How about a doctor? But that's like on call away from the family sort of stuff. Vets have like hours, you know? If it's a weekend, you're going to the emergency vet.

What about the doctor from house, which is a terrible show. But he's just kind of, he just floats around. You know, hey, we need you. Okay, I'll make this one. That kind of doctor. You don't want her to marry someone British. No, not, no. I do.

Oh, you do? Yeah. So let's start there, British. British veterinarian. Okay. Wait, name. I'll give you a name too. Alistair.

George. George is a strong name. Yeah, it is. A British veterinarian named George. with good teeth and he's like he's uh

he's uh he's uh he's four years her senior you know they're both appropriate marriage ages yeah but like he's seen he's been around the block not like you know he wasn't no womanizer or anything he's a good guy yeah but he's seen a little bit of the world you know he's he's retired from the streets you don't want like her

marrying a virgin right that's where a lot of the problems come. I have a buddy though. The virgins they act out. They say get a little, little. Marrying a virgin is insane. Hold on. Hold on.

I have a really good friend who has only made love to his wife. That's it. And it's like an A plus marriage. He's a cool cat. No, you're right. There are some cool. There are some cool.

I also have a friend. I can speak to that. Like it might be, that might be the way to go, actually. be like a little taste of the the pie i want the whole i want all the pie not quite following along but no like he's not he's not like a wandering eye not he's set like you don't know what you want until you have a little something right well he had a little something he was like i'm i'm good here yeah that's what i mean yeah he's just there's a level of sewing the wild oats which i think would be

prerequisite yeah yeah yeah i was thinking like podcast producer Reed. Read be perfect. Reed. So when my daughter's 25, Reed will be 53 or so. I don't read. I'll do respect.

I'm good on having read. Oh, not read specifically. Okay. Guys got, got. Honestly, I might sign up for that right now.

Reed being my son-in-law. Yeah. Even with. I would not sign up with no offense. What the fuck? As any of it is my father. Some taken. Some taken.

Well, I'd rather be. be friends, then, you know, have like the pressure. We're going to have a great time. The biggest issue is you're being 27 years older than my daughter. Otherwise, I think we got it made in the shade. Yeah, that's, I'm kind of, and I'm trying to cut that, you know, the 27, by not marrying your daughter.

Yeah. And not being the son-in-law. But like, we like each other. We do like each other. We trust each other. We work together. Yeah, there are a lot of happy marriages that have 27-year age differences. They're all over the place.

Donald and Melania, 24? Emmanuel Macron and his wife. Oh yeah, Brigitte. 24 years. Catherine Zeta Jones difference. With Michael Douglas. There you, 25. There you go.

Bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. You know, Chris? Uh-huh. And you're telling me I could get a son-in-law with the integrity of a cowboy read. Yeah. I don't care how old he is. What's your favorite part of my... Wait, say it again?

Be happy to answer. Say it again? No. He asks, what's your favorite part of his body? I'm not going to go chalk and say calves. My favorite part of your body... Yeah. What's this right here? This muscle over your knee?

That's basically a calf, too. No, no, no. This one. Right here. Oh, okay. This is a VMO. That's a VMO? Yeah. Totally my favorite.

That looks badass. A VMO? Uh-huh. I don't know if that's an actual muscle. That sounds totally made up. No, it is. It's real. Your vastus medialis obli.

Yeah, pretty much. That is hot. What's your favorite part of my body? I know I'm not showing a lot of skin today. Probably your eyes, man. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. You do like green things.

Well, no, I mean, like, they're kind of, they're like dead eyes. It's funny. Like you're funny. Like you, the way you express through your eyes, like, they're beautiful. They're green. I have dead eyes. No, but like, funny people can like just kind of, like the way you just looked at me, the way you're looking to be right now, it's funny. I love it. I amuse you. No, you're funny. That's a positive. Okay. That's positive. Yeah, they're also beautiful eyes. Thanks.

Green eyes. I might trade brown for green. You want to trade? I kind of, yeah, I kind of like my green eyes. Okay. Just like I like your VMOs. Okay, this is the... Topso loves with dead eyes.

Why do I keep getting compared to Steve Buscemi? Crispin Glover. Bill Murray, okay. Bradley Cooper. Yeah, dude. There you go. Yeah. I have big teeth and dead eyes.

No lips Anybody else? I think your hair is great Yeah I know you like to wear the hat off Take your hat off Yeah You have great hair

Thank you Your hair is my favorite part Oh thanks Yeah I appreciate it I would agree Thank you Good jawline Yeah the other day

In that picture That I put on Instagram Yeah you look good You put a picture of me on Instagram Yeah Disgusting brothers Oh I

that is about as good as I can look in the studio that picture. You look good. Thanks. Cowboy, I thought her to follow up. Nothing important. That's the name of the podcast. Nothing important. There is a dead eyes podcast, by the way. Oh. I was looking that up.

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