Green Light with Chris Long - Anders Holm! Workaholics, Acting with Robert De Niro, Hollywood, Writers Strike & Swimming

Episode Date: June 23, 2023

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for more information today. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. Gotta be fresh. It's a workaholics episode today. We've got Anders Home. Chris and Macon are going to fire some questions at Anders Home. He's going to talk about the workaholics. Alex's house, writing the episodes, hanging out with a good crew, meeting all the guys,

how porn was a small influence on some of their early videos. Then he's going to talk about some of his other movies. He's done some serious work. He's shot a couple of movies with Robert De Niro. He's done some very goofy comedies. He's been in some serious dramas. He's going to talk about Hollywood. He also gets into the writer's strike with a pretty interesting take.

It's a special Friday drop. We appreciate y'all joining. Please enjoy Anders and have a great weekend. All right. This is a long time in the works here. Anders, welcome to the show. Hey, what up? Yeah, we met the first time online telling your mom jokes.

That was the first time I ever met you was on Twitter. I don't know how many years back that was, but like I forget how it started, but we were just like three dudes that were just going to each other's throats on Twitter. Yeah, I think it was that Kyle had like just hit me up and like, yo, I'll beat you in a swim race. out of nowhere. And I was like, I don't know, maybe he will. He's like fucking 10 years younger than me in 6, 8 or whatever. And I was like, all right, let's figure this out.

Let's get this going. And like it just never came to fruition. But like the trash talk turned into mama jokes. And I want to say it went on for years. It was like three years of mom jokes. And then one day it was like everybody just went home. Like we forced gum. We were all like, I think I'll go home now.

And they just stopped. Yeah. But I do. I felt like, I was like, am I repeating myself? I would even be like driving around like, that's a good one. I got to pull over. Let me just get this one out real quick. Get this one off.

You know, and they were bad. It was like your mom takes guitar lessons at Kmart. Right? Or like, whatever. It was just like, not things. Your mom's got one tooth named Michael, you know. And like all the cool people online were like they'd pass through the thread and be like, I don't get this.

Right. And they just keep it moving. So right. But we stopped. And we had like connected and we were like, we got to do something, man. I got to get you on the show. You want to come on because I guess you watched some of our shit. And this is the admission.

We watch some of your shit. Okay. We've never actually committed to watching workaholics front to back. So I feel uncool in that way. but I've watched hours of workaholics on YouTube.com. But you've seen an episode? Yes. Yes.

Our friends have seen episodes. Our friends love the show. We just wanted you to know that off the top of the show. Like, I think you might have something here with workaholics. Because everybody in my group text is fucking psyched that you're coming on. Great. That's huge.

No, I don't care if you've seen. Basically, I was like, have you, you're like, I haven't seen it front to back. I'm like, if you've seen an episode, or just like a scene of Adam almost dying doing something like you're up to speed basically that was the entire series okay good yeah i wanted to get that yeah i wanted to get that out there because it's hard to interview a guy that's as interesting as you and like not know the show front to back you know you make a reference and i'm afraid i got to do like the fake laugh thing and i thought you were like workaholics fanboy you came in here and you're like i haven't seen all of the show so i feel i don't

if I should feel better or worse now because I thought I had a wingman. No, but it's a credit to the writing because in college, we graduated in 08. Like it's pretty easy to understand the context of a tight or a loose butthole. You don't even need to be going front to back on every single episode. Yeah. That's how my parents explain it to their friends. Yeah, you too. What is the workaholics?

What's the workaholics fucking, you know, I saw you guys on an interview talking about how people, I think it was Conan, and which is awesome. Like, I mean, going on that show, it would be amazing. Yeah, legend. Homeboy was saying that, like, or actually you were saying, somebody rolled up to you in traffic and just awkwardly hits you with the, like, tight butthole line. And I got to feel like if it's not, you know, like that's not the one that strikes the best chord.

It's like a little too chalky because even no. I knew that one. Like, what's the right workaholics, you know, one liner that's going to tickle your fancy? Like the deep cut kind of thing? Because like a tight butt hole, you know, when you're in public and you're like, you know, you're at Disneyland with your kids and someone's just like, tight butt hole. And I use my name on the show.

So like people come up to me saying my name. And my kids are like, do you know them? And I'm like, nah, but tight butt hole means a, it's a thing we say. They're like, what is my dad's life about? Yeah. But like, yeah, a deep cut?

I don't know. A lot of people, um, we had like a lot. So like, I was a swimmer in real life and then my character on the show was also a swimmer. So like, I was really putting the sport of swimming on in like the only possible way you can,

which is like not quite cool, but kind of something a person did, right? And so there's a scene in an episode where like I talk about fighting these grown men who just showed up at a house party we threw and we're kind of like commandeering like the girls and the drinks and we're like, who the fuck are these guys? And I'm like, they're looking at me like I didn't go 20 point in the 53. I will roll up on these dudes. So a lot. And by the way, my co-stars, Adam and Blake, they're like, what does 20 point mean? And I'm like, don't worry about it.

It's just something swimmer's saying. It's 20 seconds in the 50 yard free. But we just say 20 point because it's like whatever. And so dudes will shout out like, yo, I want 20 point. And I'm like, they don't even know what it means. You know? That's a deep cut, isn't it? Yeah, that's it is.

The swimming references, the dudes would just have to be like, this is a good one. And I'd go, yeah. And then I would kind of like gauge on Twitter that night when the episode dropped. by like the amount of swimmers being like oh my god the way you said he had good underwater's you don't know what that means but i know it and they know it no it was kind of a fun thing to do for the show with uh the swimming thing you were a bad boy huh you didn't last i rocked a boat yeah i was uh enjoying extracurricular activities a little too much yeah was that uh was that what's going on on mifflin street or mifflin block is that how you got uh in trouble up there

you know it wasn't mifflin but mifflin for those who don't know so i went to madison wisconsin for college and mifflin street block party once upon a time was like essentially a humongous throwdown where people are just like trashed on the streets uh and i know people from new orleans are like yeah that's that's our lifestyle but like you know this is a college and it's just going off and like it's a ton of houses uh for about four or five blocks and every house has like like 10 kegs and it's just like going off and the police kind of looked the other way for a day. It's like varsity blues. But no.

So what went down was like one of the earlier weeks of my junior year, we were doing a case race, the swim team, two guys do a case as fast as you can. And then we hit the bars and I had a couple too many drinks, walked outside, walked over a parked motorcycle that somehow I just didn't see there. and then got like clowned by some dudes that were all together and then I just kind of swung at the close actually the dude pushed me and then I swung and the rest is legal history and we're not gonna get it. Damn I didn't have fight on my bingo card. But I ended up it was a holiday weekend, spent a few nights in lockdown. Oh.

Missed some like like the opening swim like dinner thing. and my coach was like, where were you? I'm like, uh, jail. He was like, oh, yeah, okay. So like, you're off the, you're off the team. We can't be rocking the boat like that. Yeah. So yeah, that was, those were the days making big mistakes,

paying big consequences. Some character issues there. Well, the nice thing about early aughts and discretions is that they've now been expunged. Yeah. You know, there's a lot wrong with this, this country. The legal system, though, for affluent white people. It's great.

We're all right. You won't find any record of it. Did you swimmers just vigorously hook up with each other? Was that like a horny sport? Because I feel like there's a very Olympic sport. Not at every school, but at our school, we were coached together with the women. So like we shared coaches. And then, yeah, there were definitely.

couples who hooked up like week one freshman year and then like the last week of senior year they were like I can't do this anymore we have to break up and you're like oh but they like just got in their mode locked in they're like this is my girl this is my guy um but yeah there was a little bit of like oh like you dated that chick last year now you're dating this one and she dated him and now she's dating that dude and a little incestuous I had I had a girlfriend now wife outside of the team so like it wasn't uh wasn't a problem yeah one time i hooked up with the swimming gal and this is a true story uh this was college meg if you're listening uh and it didn't go far but she smelled like chlorine like strongly smelled like chlorine and also oh yeah she wore

it's a lifestyle she wore the speedo as like the underwear i didn't get past there but she was wearing the Speedo like out to the bar. What? Yeah, dude. Like a women's bathing suit or she had a men's bathing suit on as underwear? Women's bathing suit. The multicolored speedo brand, you know, you swimmers wear that stuff, you know? And I was just, I didn't know.

Because for a second, I was like, that was a guy. No, it was not a guy. I mean, and like, she was strong. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's, that's, well, you know what, though? You're, you're, yeah, probably can now, dude.

These girls are fast. Fucking, you're just in the lifestyle. I mean, you know, like, you, why are you taking the suit off? You're just going to be back in it in like three hours after class or whatever. Two hours after the bar. It's such a, it's such a dirt dog sport because you're doing two hours in the morning. Then you're probably going to go to the weight room outside of that. Then you're going to classes or whatever.

Then you go back for two and a half hours in the afternoon. Like you don't even shampoo. You're like, why? This is a waste of money at this point. You know, and these poor girls who are trying to like keep their, maintain their nice long hair or whatever they got. Like,

it's an uphill battle for sure. When you were kicked off, what happened to your physique, you know? Not having to burn the calories anymore. What happened? So for the first year, I kept training on my own because I was like, I'm going to get back on it.

I'm going to get back on the team. And so it was fine. I actually got way bigger because when you're swimming, you're just burning tons of calories. You can eat anything. It's very hard to put on weight. So I put on weight and I got like super strong and I didn't really lose my shit until the next year when they're like, no, you're not coming back. And I was like, well, I'll start drinking. also I was like underage and so I couldn't I mean I could drink if I wanted to but like I couldn't

go out and drink because then like if I got carded or caught or whatever I was on like probation right so like I pretty much just like locked it down for that year and just started writing movies actually at that point did I hear you say this and you know I was trying to lead you into a trap to talk about man boobs that you said you got man boobs oh yeah so like when I swam I was like chesty you know like I had like taught pecks you know most swimmers are pretty lean up top and then now like as a man I'm just as a grown man it's just like some flappy daffles dude it's a fucking battle dude it's a battle and I was gonna say I was wondering if you got any tips for the guys out there that are trying to get fresh with the with the man boobs because

because it can be hard. You know, some of these little guys can wear these cool little designer t-shirts. I've never been able to do that. I have like borderline man boobs. Yeah. Like not quite man boobs. Yeah. That's why I'm wearing soccer kits these days, bro.

They just rest easy on the chest. Because it tightens up your game a little bit. Yeah, it does. So you got any tips? Like, how did you navigate that? I mean, uh, it does. As soon as I cut calories, like eating wise or whatever now is a grown-ass man, they go away pretty quick.

I got a buddy who's a strength coach who played football at Wisconsin, and he was like, decline bench, man, decline. It'll tighten it up down there. I'm like, okay, all right, decline bench. I've heard the same thing. I've heard the same thing. I've just too late. And they're soccer kids.

Yeah, I'm like, what I'm like, am I putting on like a lot of weight or am I doing a lot of reps to like bring it back? You know, because I don't want to build muscle there because then it's like it's only going to become something bad down the line. you know what I'm exactly right you're exactly right and you did the commencement speech at wisconsin um you know russell wilson j jay watt anders home like uh how was that were you nervous like you you got to do a lot of shit that would make me nervous but i remember i did it at virginia and i didn't sleep for like three days you know i never get nervous for a football game

that was as scared as i've been because you're standing in a room full of people who are much smarter than you as a football player you got into wisconsin on your own accord. Yeah. But for me, it was fucking nerve wracking. Well, no, I swam my way in.

And this is what I have to tell everybody who's like, these football players don't give a shit about math, academics and da-da-da-da. I'm like, guess what? I didn't, I was a horrible student, right? So like,

I think I graduated with like a two, four, six or something like that, which is not like stand. The swim team is like engineers, business school, everybody's super dialed in. But for me, like,

yeah, it was a struggle. So going there was like, hilarious. But yeah, I was nervous, man. Like, not nervous. Well, let me just say this. I, like, wrote all my stuff and then I ran it by one of the writers at workaholics. And I was like, what do you think? Funny? Like, this good? Like, that hits, right? That kind of thing. And he was like, yeah, trim that, maybe take that joke out kind of thing. And I was like, all right, cool. I'm ready to go. But yeah, I had to do it four times because they did it inside the

basketball arena which they like split it up so it was about like 3,000 people four different times. So like morning afternoon on Saturday, morning afternoon on Sunday. And the first time I got up there in front of those 3,000 people like heart pounding. And I'm like, chill. Like what? This is, who cares? Just be funny. Just do your thing.

And I just like blazed through it in like 15 minutes. and then like each subsequent speech was like a minute longer a little looser having more fun with the audience like the last one was garbage but the third the third one is pretty good yeah yeah i did it i did it here and then um i think ed helms did it the next year and i was just out in l.a for the uh for the willy uh 90th birthday party thing and i was backstage at this little like vip area which i had no idea how i got back there but i was five feet from Ed Helms for like an hour. And I almost was like, hey man, we're part of a fraternity.

But I felt like I might come across like a fucking nerd. Do you know Ed? Would that have been a good move by me to come up and start a conversation? 200% should have done it. He's the nicest. Damn, dude. Damn. And I feel like Ed, I feel like we locked eyes.

And he knew. He knew we were part of the fraternity, but I didn't come over. Yeah, no, he probably would have loved that. Because like, that's specific. That's not like, excuse me, um, in hangover. Like, were those your hands on the piano or like, would that like CGI or a stunt guy? You know, you like are coming like very specific. No, he's a super nice guy.

He would have loved that. Chris, you talk about Virginia Anders is talking about Wisconsin. Anders. Did you know that Tulane University is expanding? You know, hey, the universe is expanding. What do you mean? Why? Oh, to what?

Like a different conference? What are we talking about? Four Lane. Four lane. Now we're talking. Yeah, he tells that joke to everybody that comes on the pod. And every time he does it, my heart just sinks, dude.

I haven't done it. He'll talk to like Michael Irvin, the first two minutes that Michael Irvin's on the pot. It's been 18 months since I've done it. He comes on strong, dude. You know what I love that he didn't laugh. Yeah. I know.

Because everybody else acts like it's fucking funny. It's not funny anymore. Do you understand the joke? Yeah, I got it. Moving on. This is so good. No, you know what? I'm not, I'll say this, and it's probably been a detriment to, like, just my life is I'm not a big laugher.

Thank you. I'm more of like a, oh, that's funny. Me too. It's not funny because imagine you're a podcaster and your co-bo doesn't laugh. I know, I know. It's tough. But I've gone on, like, other comedians podcasts, and I watch it before, like, I go on. And they're just like, yucking it up laughing.

And I'm like, not that guy. so like when I go on it just has a vibe that seems like we're not having a good time but I'm just like what am I like a just going to laugh at everything like it's not like because some people it's like it's like a nervous tick almost where they're like I'm going to fill the air and make this person feel good by laughing because I'm just laughing and I'm laughing and I don't trust those people just laugh I just fucking what he's saying is he found it very funny he's just not a laugher yeah well what what like comedians and podcasting man like honestly strong joe i gotta be honest dude i really love y'all's podcast i mean that sincerely and as somebody

who has a podcast and every time we thanks man we stop i'm like that fucking sucks because nobody wants to hear themselves talk um especially not me and um you know it's really hard to like for us who are not comics we're not like people that can fill dead air naturally like the sports calendar is long there's days we got to make shit up i feel like uh it's really hard to to to believe in your work. The podcasting, does it come easier to comedians and writers? Because I feel like that's y'all's wheelhouse. I almost feel like it's unfair.

It's so easy when I turn it on. You guys are just going. Yeah, I mean, look, I've known those dudes since 2004 or something like that now. So, like, I mean, we know what we are to each other. We turn the dial up a little bit on the podcast as opposed to like when we're just hanging out and being ourselves. But it truly is just like us shooting the shit over Zoom because we can't really see each other out anymore.

We're like we're working. Somebody will be in Atlanta working. Someone will be up in Vancouver. And it's just like a good way to catch up and shoot the shit. And also like reveal stuff and argue about things in ways that like, because we're, we're very different. I'm actually probably maybe like the black sheep of the crew. like Kyle

Newichick who directed most of the episodes of Warcoholics and Blake Anderson who's got the long hair they grew up together they've known each other since they were like nine they met Adam in junior college out here when they were like 18 and then I came in on the scene

four years after that I think so like I always had like my girlfriend my now wife like I didn't live with them they all lived together we just have different vibes about things but the like comedy respect is there where I'm like these dudes are hilarious right and like hardworking and when you move to L.A you try and make sure you don't like link up with flakes or like well this dude's super talented it's too bad we never know where he is and we can't like

rehearse our sketch comedy oh my god you're describing my co-host you want to talk this out oh yeah you were the flake you flaked out oh the flake we're the flake he is the flake I like to stay home he doesn't like doing the calls before the show he just comes in and and and hits it out of the park you know he's that guy hey well it sounds like you've made it your personality so that's kind of like a way to like work it's a bit you know it's a bit i don't know that it is a bit though it's life yeah it's you but it's hard to tell where the bit stops and where you know like normal you begins um i love blake bro he's like he's fucking hilarious i'll just watch his four box. I was watching the video the other day of when he went on Ellen. And I was just crying,

dude. Uh, him going on the, uh, Cincinnati news station and fucking being, what was he just, was he black out? Oh yeah. Like the Warriors had won. So I think he was out till four, woke up at six for a six 30 interview. And then the dude was trying to like give him some guff. And he was like, what are we doing? Why am I even on this? Like, I know I got to promote. this movie but like what do you want from me? Yeah. The guys are like, oh, you're eating a donut?

He's like, it's a bagel. He throws the bagel. I mean, look, he's a go hard. Yeah, yeah, he has a go hard. He's a go hard, man. Who do you think's got the, like, I know I listen to a lot of comedian podcasts, y'all's included.

Who do you think has the, the best one, you know, of your peers that you're like, I really like, you know, I like their work. on screen or writing or whatever, but they really shine in that podcast and share. Man, I don't, you know what's weird? I don't listen to that many comedy podcasts. Yeah. I like listening to, I'll just say who I like. I like Andrew Santino. I think he's always funny. Yeah, he is funny. He has one with Bobby Lee called Bad Friends, and I think he has

another one that's just him, like Cheeto, Santino or whatever. Yep. But that dude just is always funny. I like those dudes on Flagrant, the Flagrant podcast, Andrew Sholes. Yep. And yeah, yeah. And Alts insane. And Akash Singh. Those dudes are funny. They're also like up on it. Like they do it every week more or less, not live, but like they drop shit like when it matters. Our podcast, sometimes we'll be like four weeks ahead talking about shit from forever ago. You know what I mean? Yeah. And they do it like right when the news is happening. And they have like, they take hard stances and big takes on stuff, which is always fun.

I like smartless that your guy from the rest of the development on there. Arnette is on there. I think that's great. And I love the concept of that show. Yeah. Yeah. I mean like we interview shows are like, you know, they're evergreen because like every week you're like, oh shit, Keanu Reeves is on. Oh shit.

Like, Paul McCartney? Like, I gotta listen. Doesn't matter. It could be anybody. They get the fucking craziest guests, though. Yeah, they do. You know what I mean? Like, it's wild.

Yeah. So I got a little bit more respect for the people who, I mean, I guess most podcasts do guests, but like, I like to watch ones where like they riff for quite a while before the guest comes out. Yeah, we hate doing those. You get a sense of what they are and then the guest drops. Yeah.

Yeah, they're hard. It's harder. I want to know who you guys are. This is easy. Give me a little bit of that. Just talking to somebody on Zoom is easy. I could do this for two hours. But when you got to start like talking about the Zion Williamson situation, you got to start talking about Omaha.

You got to start. Yeah, it's fucking, it can be boring. How about like comedy and crossover? You know, like there's a lot of guys and gals who have kind of like made their money. being funny and then they take a hard right turn and they star in movies where they're more serious or you know I think about Jim Carrey

like some of my favorite movies period or Jim Carrey being fucking serious like how hard is that and is that something you've ever considered doing and I know you've probably done it I mean but is it something that you ever have to contend with doing more permanently yeah so like I think

I have done some drama and I'll circle back to me but like the Jim Carries and like the Will Farrell's the world who have like they just take over right and like they're the funniest people in the world like straight up i think at a certain point they're just kind of like sick of being funny wondering if like they're taken seriously at all you know what i mean um and then also at a certain point like the not for everybody but for almost everybody like unless you can pivot to a different comedy take like the the jigs up right like people can see where you're going with it they know like the cadence and like there's very few people who are like always funny with that same thing that they've

always been doing like somebody like bill murray um who did like kind of man of the party that kind of fun guy at some point like pivoted to like the curmudgeon as he got older right and it was like oh a whole new slew of like movies and ways to see bill murray you know and like um also like just the challenge you know like people get bored they're like okay i can like run around and be an idiot for like 20 million dollars again or like i can do something that challenges me and is interesting and not so just kind of easy because it's easy for these people people were so funny they might be killing themselves and like putting an effort but like it's easy, you know.

And yeah, so I've done some drama. I did a movie called The Intern with Robert De Niro and Anne Hathaway where I had to be like dramatic and cry and all that kind of stuff, which was super duper embarrassing because just couldn't do it. I was like, blow the like menthol into my eyes, please get them going and then we'll call action. But I'm also doing this Godzilla show for Apple TV Plus that comes out later this year. I saw that. Where I'm doing more drama.

And it's, I'm, I'm kind of like the light drama character of the show where I've got like a sense of humor. My character has a sense of humor. But there's moments where like, you know, we're getting chased by Godzilla and monsters and all this shit and people are dying and I got to get there, you know. Have you seen a cocaine bear? No. Is it great?

Dude. It's better than I ever thought it would be. I mean like I didn't know if the Godzilla movie was going to be all serious or if it was going to be some comedy but like the monster comedy genre of movies which is like really hard to pin down. I thought I felt like it was the 90s again. I felt like like comedy good comedy movies were back like when I walked out of that theater. It was fucking awesome. You should see cocaine bear. Check it out.

You mentioned yeah, you mentioned the crying scene. how did you end up crying? Because I heard a story about De Niro. Who was he telling Sebastian Manuscalco? He was telling him how he cries thinking about his kids. And I don't know if you could actually trigger that from something so serious or if you had to think around it. So like this is the like short, long story of that movie is that I was like, all right. And I think it was like my first day on set, maybe my second where they're like, hey, we're going to be doing that.

crazy scene where you break down and cry. I'm like, fuck, okay, just me and Aunt Hathaway, who's like Oscar winner and a total G. Like in my audition with her, like I went to New York and like got in the room with her and like ran the scene. And it's like my line, her line. And then in the action, it's like, you cry. And then her line and she cries. And it's like, boom line, boom line. It says I cry. Not happen. she says her line then she just starts crying and I'm like fuck you know and then they're like okay cut good good good good yeah let's we're gonna pick you or whatever and I'm like oh great and she's just like Kleenex we got Kleenex here nice good girl I'll see you I'll see you on set so anyway on set

I'm like all right you couldn't bring it in that audition you're bringing it today and this is like a sad this is a sad thing is that I had a friend who passed away like like near that time and I was like I'm gonna pull up a picture of my guy and just like think of the good times and that kind of thing before um the scene and I'm kind of like over in the corner and I'm looking at my buddy I'm like god I can't believe you're gone this is crazy died young uh like in his early 30s and then I was like he would clown you so hard for doing this right now and then I just started like laughing. I'm like, okay, we're putting this away.

Putting this away. And then I called for the menthol stick. And I was like, just blow it in my eyes. But since then I've... It really is a thing. I've gotten... I've thought of things that I can conjure that do trigger it for me.

And I'm going to keep it secret so that I don't blow my wad. And then I'm like, I'm set and someone's like, you're going to think of that thing right now? Good luck. And I go, fuck you. God damn it. you know that's good with with the workaholics uh one of the interesting things i was reading about the show was like you guys were shooting in the house and then like i i kind of wonder how hard it was to to live where you work those three dudes lived in the house i live with my wife girlfriend yeah yeah and i was i was like the grown-up dude i wore like shirts with collars

and people thought I was organized and I'm like, I'm a fucking psycho mess. Like, what is happening? But so here's the deal. It was fucking awesome because they got rent paid for for two years until they moved out to their, you know, bigger paycheck house. And then like, I'm up in the morning, like, showering. I got to like commute to their house. They wake up when like dudes start setting up lights in their house. They're like, hey, Adam, wake up, we got to get in the room and set up some lights.

And he's like, all right, I got to shower. You know, like, amazing, the best. And, like, the house gets cleaned by the crew. I mean, it's also, like, probably a fucking nightmare. But, you know, they were, those guys were 26 at the time, 25 or something like that. Like, they don't care. No. And you wrote in some pretty messy shit.

Some of the stuff I've seen that I really liked was the food fight. the food fight episode, which I thought was awesome. And then the beef jerky situation you had going where your dad was supposed to be with the house. And I guess I think Adam's like pissing on the carcass of the cow in the bedroom. Do you have a guess how much that house is going for on Airbnb right now, a night? No, but I think it is like an attraction. I think you can like rent the Wargaholics house. I have no idea.

It's four bedrooms, I think. Is it 600 a night? No. No, no, no, no. It's 215 a night. Well, actually, sorry, let me take that back. Golden Girls, their house, which is a comparable house, architecturally, and the whole thing, is 215 a night. Yours is 200 a night.

So I was just wondering if you thought it was too low. That's comparable. I'll take that. The Golden Girls. I mean, I guess it is out in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, that's location. near the city like they're the private airport I was going off of like that's true this is true yeah this is true so yeah I guess the true big baller shot collars can fly right in right

into the workaholics of the golden girls who would you say you are that's a good one I think oh shit I like this I mean I got to be rose she's got the Scandinavian background she's an idiot you know that's that's me basically yeah yeah it's a dumb scandy um like with the show you writing the show and like shouldering that burden is it a burden like and does that affect sometimes the relationships momentarily when you're like fuck dude i had a vision for this you want to go a different way with it like how does that whole process go and and is it a pain in the ass at the end of the day it's the greatest thing in the world it's amazing right because like

I mean, I guess I could equate it to like when you draw up a play and it works exactly as it's supposed to work. You know what I mean? Like we're just drawing up place. We're like, yo, what's something people have never seen before that's going to catch them off their rocker? Like, what can we do that's different? How can we film it that's different? What's a funny story that's relatable that people are going to love and be like, oh, my God, that's me? and then like as you like ratcheted in so that's just like story you just start like big like

what's something people are into or we're into that we want to like set an episode in that world or in or in that scenario for the day then we kind of build it out and we're like how does it get more complicated get worse how do the stakes get higher how do we ruin it for ourselves and have to redeem ourselves you know and then we kind of build like the outline of what the shape of the story's going to be And then you get in and you just start scripting it. And then you get to just like sprinkle it with jokes, right? So jokes are like the last thing.

They're not inconsequential, but like if the scene's not good, like the jokes will just kind of not land. Yeah. But if the scene is good and like loaded with the story that you set up, the joke will like really land. So yeah, then you get to the set and sometimes you throw stuff out and you're like, this isn't really working how we thought it would that thing you just said is funny why don't we build off of that for a second and then the tension will come from this new argument we just discovered here which will spill over into us going to talk to our boss and we're like hitting each other under the desk based on that you know what I mean yeah so yeah you're constantly just trying to mold and sculpt and take things and

and make sure that they're funny to you because if you're not laughing like why are you doing it you know Did you end up in ruts sometimes where you couldn't write? Like, and it was a struggle? Um, yeah, sometimes. Sometimes you're just like, maybe you're even chasing the wrong thing. Like, we would get caught up on like, all right, what's the drug episode going to be for this season? Because our drug episodes were always like a good one. We do like shroom episode and then like the cocaine episode and then like every drug episode.

And so it got kind of like a thing we thought we might have to do and less organic. but yeah you get you get in ruts with yourself and then you also don't want to like bite any other show yeah that's done something similar like right community you're always sunny or the simpsons has done everything right like shows that were your contemporaries you're just trying not to like do the same thing as them um so yeah you but like with me and the dudes like we would find it we would just dip back into our bag of 90s tricks and references and like you know be like what if we found a laser disc of the warp tour and like took it to fucking I don't know so you know yeah yeah we would just try and crack each other up would you would you method act during the drug episodes over

no we only I only smoked weed during our finale oh right on the roof for the last episode and we're like lighten up some bowls or a joint I can't remember what was but Adam says like out loud you know in a meta way he's like oh this is real weed and we're like yeah yes this is we're smoking real weed as like the camera pulls away from us that's good um i got to get those guys did before but yeah yeah yeah i've been saving you don't want to be stoned yeah well yeah well it's rough go ahead go ahead well no i um you smoke a lot of marijuana yes in here on the set because sometimes it knocks the edge I think it's probably different than acting. You know, some days you're not in the mood to talk about whatever we're talking about day to day.

Right, right, right. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. To be stoned on set, I would just be a fucking mess. Because I just am like a dude who lokes out. You know what I mean? I'm like in the couch, Indica, whatever they say. I'm just out of it. So, like, would not be on my game.

Did you have any odd jobs while you were writing? Did. I mean, totally. when I moved to L.A., the first job I got was at LaCost on Rodeo Drive. Oh, sick, man. Which was sick. Nice. They got sick clothes.

The discount was wild. I was like the man that Christmas. I came home like, ho, a scarf for you, mother. Three polos for you, my brother? Father, two sweaters and a fucking pair of socks. like killed it.

And then like decided to stay home longer. Because you know like retail like around the holidays, you got to be there because people are like returning stuff. And then my parents were like, well, you just stay here longer. I was like, I don't know if I can. They're like, just change your flight. And I was like, all right, let me just tell them I can't get back for a couple of days. And then when I got back, they were like, so you're fired.

Yeah. So I was only there for like four, five months or something like that. Was that the Lacost callback from about my father? Weren't you a LaCost model or something in that? I mean, it comes full circle. I mean, I looked like one. Jesus. Yeah, you do. You do. That movie's insane. I played a crazy person in that. You do. You do. You got a face, man. You got a face. That's a scene I saw too where you had your modeling, your modeling shot. all laid out on the counter at work and the boss walks in i fucking that shit was funny adam was

pissed off uh oh and it's just me like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah people thought those are my real head shots and i'm like no i took those for the show like can i can i tell you who you look like dude um you kind of look like if if you know when dave chapelle would do white face yeah you kind of you kind of you kind of got almost feel like one character was inspired by the other a little bit. I like that. Yeah. I like that.

I'll take that with like, especially like the hair that I had on workaholics where it was like combed over. Yes. Yes. I don't know why. I like that. He had like the blonde mustache, right? Yes.

Yes. It looked a little Scandinavian. I love that. I had a colleague today. I saw, I sell real estate for a living and I had a colleague today. She gets a kick out of. this gig and asked who we were interviewing,

and I said, Anders Holm. And then she says, oh, workaholics. And I say, yeah, somebody else says, show me a picture. I show the picture. They say, oh, hot park ranger vibe. Oh, wow. Which I don't know if there's a better vibe than hot park ranger.

No, I like that. Tall, tall socks, the cats are just kind of poking out of it. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. The shorts are short. Yep. You're excited to be a work. Camelback situation happening.

It might be a camelback situation. Authority figure. Yep. Uh-huh. Yeah. Like rough hands, you know, that kind of thing. That's good. That's a good review, though, honestly.

It could be worse. You know, you talked about Godzilla and Titans. I know you're doing a Muppet thing. You just did a Muppets thing where you were a voice. Who did you voice over? No, I played a human. I played a human actor character. Okay, cool.

So this will still work. Muppets Mayhem. Okay, Muppets Mayhem. Okay. Because you're going to make me do voice. No, I wasn't going to make you do voices. I was going to ask you to play Merry Fuck Kill with Kermit, Fawsey, and Gonzo. Okay.

Okay. Yeah, I'm killing Fossey right off the bat. Why? Not for me. Not my guy. Just, yeah, it doesn't really stand out to me as a guy I want to hang out with. I'm Mary Kermit. I feel like Kermit's got like kind of like an emotional.

like this is a guy you want to be in the trenches with and then gonzow that knows that knows bro i think we're knowing i think we know where that's going i know exactly where that's going that's going right up the pooper well you did you did a really good scene uh you did a good scene with risaria dawson where she was doing something down there i've got experience with this i thought you might say um I thought you might say Gonzo actually. You made a sex noise in that scene. What went into that creative process for you? Dude.

First of all, the movie he's talking about is called Top Five. Chris Rock wrote it, directed it, starred in it. It's super fucking funny. And Top Five is a reference to when you're talking about rappers. Who's your Top Five? And that's kind of like an ongoing thing throughout the movie. Rosario Dawson The scene is like I'm playing her boyfriend

Who she suspects is Cheating on her with a guy And she finds out And out of like revenge Just for being somebody who cheats on her I keep I keep to preface I keep asking her to like finger my butthole And she's like

Okay like I'll do it and it's like Becomes my thing I'm like as soon as we get home from dinner I'm like hey let's just the butthole thing and she's like what's what is going on here so then she finds out i've been shooting on it with some guy and so i'm like hey let's do the butthole thing she's like yeah okay and she takes a tampon out of a purse and covers it in hot sauce and then shoves it up my ass and uh i go crazy because apparently that hurts that burns i didn't go method on that but to make this scene i'm i'm wearing what's called like a cock sock it's

essentially just like a bag for marbles right that you just put your junk and your trunk all in and you like cinch the core that's how they do it otherwise butt ass naked and bent over and rosario dawson herself is just looking at my bear asshole no way and i've known her like for a week now or just maybe even a few days at this time and uh i'm like hey just tell me it's it's okay back there she's like yeah not bad you're good you're good you know I'm like I'm like I'm like you know what toilet paper what's the situation you just I've never seen no unless you can like look in the mirror upside down you jump on the counter of the bathroom but dude it's I was like just are we good she's like we're good

don't sweat it I'm like all right great so very close quarters so that's how they do the that's how they do soft core porn is toxic Like the things I was watching in high school, that's cock socks. Yeah. No way. Yeah. I presume. I presume that's where I'll end up someday.

Well, John Hamm was a fluffer. Everyone's like. So he knows. John Ham came on and his odd job was a fluffer. Did you know that? What? Yeah, dude. Before he hit it big, John Hamm used to get the people ready.

Tell me more. Yeah, he used to get the people ready on softcore porn sites. I don't know what goes into that. I don't know if they have like a duster. That is what I imagine they walk around just dusting people's sacks. Shit like that. Like what? Just like a little feather.

I don't know. What goes into being a fucking? He's got it all, huh? Yeah, he does have it all, I hear. Yeah, yeah. You know what's funny about comedy and drama is that like he's super funny, right? Yeah. But he's also like very good in drama and stuff.

And a buddy of mine and I were like, man, like, he must have been like a huge dork in high school who like blossomed. Yeah. And so then we Google John Han. Google Images John Ham High School. And the first picture that pops up is the most handsome football player you've ever seen. Just I fucking this camera like, hi, I'm John America. Yeah. Like, it's insane.

I'm like, okay, so I guess he was cool in high school too. He never blossomed. He was just always the man. Yeah, he went to, uh, he went to high school at John Burroughs where my wife coach PE. Thankfully, my wife coach PE in 2000. and 10 not when he was at the school because I wouldn't let her go into work as a student or a staff member but yeah no John Ham's super cool in St. Louis it's in St. Louis. He's a St. Louis guy. You know who else went to Burroughs, Ellie Kemper? Yeah. Yeah, Ellie Kemper. And I met her at the Super Bowl.

She was like the nicest person in the world. St. Louis girl. She's the best. Yeah, St. Louis gal. What do you like, okay, we've talked about the cock sock. This is the meat of the interview. This is what I wanted to get to sex scenes. And like, yeah, okay. Yeah. And, well, you know, if you were a laugher, but then, but then, you know, it's the making out. It's the making out. There we go.

Yeah, yeah. The making out, um, and like the kissing and like having to pitch that to your significant other. Like how does that go? I don't know if you've had to do that. I mean, I don't know if the butthole scene qualifies, but like, you know, hey, I got to kiss this hot babe at work. How does that go?

Yeah, it's not great. Um, it's not great. When you talk about on podcasts, doesn't like help. Yeah. Yeah. She's like, she's also, she's been, um, she tries, I mean, she tries to listen to things I do. Um, but like, I think she's been on set for one.

Yeah. What up? Emma. What up. Um, best. He was telling me about you. She was on set for Mindy Project one time. So I think she kind of did see like, oh, this is like just a bunch of guys with cameras and

lights and like somebody's holding a microphone like right over your faces like she sees that like we're creating this thing and it's not real when you watch it you go oh this is a steamy scene you don't know that like the person you're acting with like just ate enchiladas from lunch or whatever you know and all that stuff that goes into it um so yeah and like you know you're just trying to be like cordial to the person and like you snap in a character and so you you're you're pretending to be like loosening into it and all that stuff. But like the last thing you want to do is be like, yeah, I'm fucking into this. And then like they call cut and you're looking at them like pretty good, right?

And they're like, you're creeping me out. Like that was me pretending. This is not real. Like we get paid to do this. So yeah, it's it's, I mean, I'm sure in the 80s maybe shit was wild. I don't know. But these days. like you're clocking in you know what you're doing yeah it makes me feel for the porn actors and

actresses because it's kind of the same situation you know that's different right it looks really glamorous yeah i've been told it looks really glamorous but the same thing with the enchiladas and all the other stuff and like they got to stop and they got to start and the whole thing like it's not what it looks like yeah yeah i mean yeah you definitely try and like brush your teeth before you uh do those scenes um that kind of stuff. Maybe you do skip the ancillas, but you don't know. You don't know what's happening.

You never know. Somebody might be like getting over a head cold. Who knows? But I expect more from the porno industry, to be honest. If you're just there to fuck, skip the enchiladas. Yeah, for real, dude. For real. I mean, but people got to eat.

Show some professionalism. What about, what about Conan when I saw that he said that you guys had, there were some porno origin plot lines? in workaholics is that totally a bit? When we were a sketch group, just doing internet sketch stuff, we did a spoof of bang bus, which is like a bus that drives around,

picks up girls. Oh, we're familiar with bangbuzz. For sure, they fuck. So we did a spoof where like, we're talking to camera, we're like, yo, what's up? Our favorite porno site is bangbust.com. We're going to try it ourselves.

So we get in the minivan that I drove at the time. We cruise over. We pick up this girl, who was a friend of ours, a very funny comedian. And she gets in and we're like, here we go. Cut to dead silence. We're all super nervous driving around. Like, so did you have an accent?

I thought I heard like a, she's like, no. We're like, hmm, okay. And then it's just like, time marches on. She's like, yeah, I'm right up here. We're like, cool, yeah, pull over. Okay, great. Hey, take care. Okay.

And she closes the door and we're just like, we could have bang that chick. And it was funny because the video's kind of funny, but the funniest part of it was that we loaded it on YouTube, and it got the most clicks out of anything we ever made because it just said bang bus. And then all the comments were like, you guys are losers.

I would have fucked her six ways from Sunday. And you're like, I'm sure you would from your fucking parents, investment or whatever. From your Twitch chair. I mean, we've always been deep in a porno comedy. Cash app. The easy way to send, spend, save, and invest

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and, you know, like, in general, when you get on a set and you're working with somebody like that, do people tiptoe around that person? I'm sure there's some guys that are cool, some guys that aren't as cool. Maybe there's certain rules, like you don't sit in that guy's chair, you don't eat his enchilada. Like, what's that like working with A-lister's and what's Robert De Niro like? You definitely don't sit in his chair. But, like, if anybody sits in my chair, there's going to be some bows through. No, like he's he's a kind of guy who like it goes with no saying like this is Robert De Niro, right? Like when he steps on set, everybody's looking, right?

But he's not a guy who steps on set and is like, I'm here, let's do it. You know, he's such a collaborator. He's like warm. He always has done his homework and he's not a guy who like outwardly expects you've done yours. He knows you've done it because you're in a scene with him, right? but he'll go off the page and improvise a little bit, which is always fun. I've done a comedy with him and then like a light drama.

So he got to see like my wheelhouse. He's like, oh, on this comedy I did with Sebastian Man Scalco, he's like, you're way different in this movie. I'm like, well, good, great, because that means I have some range and I'm not just the exact same guy. And then the thing that I took from working with him the first time was that like he's not in charge

the director's in charge and he's like what am I doing like tell me what to do you know he'll do his takes and then they'll be like can I get a little bit more of this you got it can I get a little bit more like that you got it like he's the paint they're the artist or the brush or whatever you want to call it

like and he doesn't have to be you know what I mean like somebody of his statue could be like I think we got it I think like I did it the way that it should be done and the way you're suggesting it's not good like he's in their hands and i was like if if deniro can do that like i definitely can be like a guy who's like i don't know if i understand the suggestion you're giving me but like fuck it i'll try it yeah sure let's do it let's go maybe you use it maybe you won't yeah so he's coachable i mean i figure there's some actors and

actresses that probably burn pretty hot and eventually get hard to work with and that that kind of word goes around. Yeah. Well, it's interesting. Like, that, if you aren't willing to try something, I think it comes from an insecurity, you know, but then it can also come from like a distrust of your director. And so, like, I trust a director until I see something that like, that breaks the trust or I'm like, well, I don't know if they know exactly what they're doing, you know, but I've had good luck just being like, all right, let me just, I'll try it. Shit. Who knows? Who cares? Maybe it'll be, maybe I won't even be good enough to do the thing they want me to do, but I'll try, you know? Yeah. So yeah, if you're not willing to try, like, what do you, why are you there?

Yeah. You got it all dialed in. Like, that seems so boring. You're going to come here and do exactly what you thought you were going to do and not like step outside of the idea of what you thought you were supposed to do or capable of doing. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, and each director is probably way different. Is there like a period when you get on set where you haven't worked with a director where you're like feeling that person out like the first couple days?

Like what the fuck is this guy or gal about? Like, and can that be a little bit of a tightrope? Yeah, I mean, I'm not like a guy who kind of like tests directors. There's some actors who you can tell are like testing the... Oh, really? Yeah, where they're just like, I'm gonna see if I can kind of shake them up, catch them off their toes,

they interact with other people like yeah just to see like what they can get away with or who's in charge at the set um because there's some actors who you know again it's like you're exposing yourself so it's to to do this kind of thing like it can be in you can be insecure like all of us everybody can be insecure in these moments but it's how you um how you bring it with your co-stars or your director or this or this you know fucking makeup people like you can blow up at like the lighting guy or whatever it is when you're not feeling great right like i try and just kind of project um openness and fun and i'm also not a guy who's going to sign up for a movie where i play like a fucking murderer yeah it just doesn't seem like a good time to no i don't think that's your

lane show up and be super serious yeah yeah yeah what about what about have you ever work with a method actor who's like taking the shit really serious and you know they come on set and you're like well he's not all the way with us right now like he's he's homeless in his mind or something like that i don't well not really i did one night on a movie that i you can't even see my face i play like a police officer that pulls over uh this car in a movie called uh inherent vice yes i was going to ask you about that yeah love that movie yeah yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, apparently, and I don't want to like speak out of school, but like my agents were like, hey, Paul Thomas loves workaholics. And I'm like, what? And he's like, yeah, he's like a huge comedy fan, obviously. His wife was on SNL and all that. And he loves your show. And like, I auditioned for the master and like didn't get it because I was God awful. And then I auditioned for Inherent Vice. And I think he was just like, just bring him on set. So then all night I'm filming one. scene with

Joaquin who just to circle back to the like method actor was kind of in character but not and I had met him once before and so I got kind of like a moment of like hey what up but then it was back to kind of work brain yeah and then

Martin Short was there which was fucking just like unreal funniest dude ever and all night I'm just like fucking with a flashlight in the gun like get out of of the car. And I don't see Paul Thomas Anderson.

He's like at the monitors kind of directing from there. I'm working mostly with the AD who's like, got to get lower or like whatever. I'm like, all right. And then the end of the night, he comes out. And he's like, what up, dude, thanks for so much for coming here. Like, do you want to have some whiskey? And I'm like, and it's six in the morning. We filmed all night.

And I'm like, absolutely. And like, we shoot the shit for like five minutes, whatever. He's like, all right, man. Thanks for coming by. I'm like, for sure. And then I just like went straight to a diner to get breakfast and was like, unbelievable, just worked on a Paul Thomas Anderson movie. I had like a little bit of whiskey with him and shot the shit.

So good. I didn't realize he did the master too. Yeah. I love the master. I'm still not sure exactly what it's about, but that's my kind of movie. Yeah. I feel like that's a movie you can watch a hundred times and realize it's about something new every time, you know? Every fucking time.

About my father, which my producer, Matt, watched last night and absolutely loved. He was dying laughing. He was dying laughing the whole time. He doesn't trust you. Especially when you got hit with the tennis ball. Yeah, yeah. There's like a butthole scene.

Classic. Yeah. They were like, so you're the butthole guy, right? Great, great, great, great. Get in here. That's fun. How do you reconcile this? Because when I go to watch a movie,

I do admittedly go to like rotten tomatoes, which is a fucking high brown snobby thing to do. But I think a lot of times they get it right or at least they're in range. You know, you look at something like that and the audience loved it. It was like the audience was like 85% or something. So it's a success and everything I've heard is great. And then the critics don't like it.

How do you feel about, you know, something like Rotten Tomatoes getting too much pull or, you know, is that too inexact to science? And how do you respond to criticism, you know, when you put out a project? Because I feel it's got to be pretty personal. Yeah, I mean, it can be because, look, I value critics, right? But I'm also like, who are these critics? And what are they critiquing, right? Like, are they critiquing the acting, the writing, the directing, the story?

Or are they critiquing, like, what it is against other movies? Like, I don't know. It's interesting. Sometimes they come with a little bit of baggage to the movie where they're like, I don't like his style of comedy. And you're like, well, then you're not going to like this movie. So, you know what I mean? But like, if there's somebody who can watch it kind of with an open mind and go,

I thought it was pretty good for what it was, you know? And I don't subscribe to like the, well, this movie's not for you. Right? I just think that that's a fucking. So am I not supposed to like little women? Is that not for me? As boys in the hood, like not for me? Like, great movies.

You know what I mean? Like, yeah. If a movie's good and it connects on a human level, like, I'm into it, right? And that's what everyone's trying to do. So, yeah, I think that there is some accuracy to it. The numbers can't lie. But at the same time, like, I made a movie called Game Over Man with the Wargaholics dudes and it got, like, destroyed.

But, like, everybody who likes Wargaholics loved Game Overman, you know? But, like, yeah, some people get their dicks cut off in the movie. It's a little out there. So like, you know, not for everybody. I mean, it's run of the mill comedy.

What's going on with the workaholics movie, speaking of that? Because I know it was greenlit and there's like a delay, but I was saving my binging for the movie. I want to see the movie first. So that's why I've waited. Well, you should just start watching the show because the movie ain't happening.

No, it's a bummer. It's not happening? So, like, the industry. right now is just like in turmoil everything's kind of like merging buying and like trying to figure out who they are so we were with um under the viacom umbrella paramount plus is where this movie was going to be

and so we wrote a movie script uh we were working on the script and we were five weeks out from filming from production and we had like cleared everyone's schedule we got an actors lined up, we had started renting studio space. We were gonna start building sets like the following day. And when Paramount Plus came back from the holiday break, that first week of January, they were like, we've got a new mandate, we're doing bigger, more popular IP, global agenda.

Like that's what they wanna do. Big box office type shit. And we aren't exactly big box office. Like we're like a Cole classic or whatever. But also like we, the movie we wanted to make was not like the cheapest movie, right? Like the budget was going to be like us. And then the budget of the movie was going to be like 15 million.

And I don't think they wanted to spend that. So we actually did okay and we got paid for not making a movie, which is crazy. because it was like a pay or play deal because you know we all scheduled like all right we're off the books we can't take jobs right so we did fine but like it's a bummer for all the people we wanted to get back and see that like worked on the show originally um you know those people kind of got screwed scheduling their uh their careers at that moment for the movie and then it uh didn't come together but the script is crazy it's crazy it was going to be fucking i can't wait i believe it's going to happen i believe it's still going to happen if it doesn't happen in the next like 175 days they got to pay us again so we'll see we'll see if they want to do that yeah there's a lot of time yeah yeah this is like a bobby benia situation where you just keep getting paid for um uh do you have a favorite cult classic you guys you classified y'all's genre if it were a movie as being a cult classic kind of deal do you have a favorite cult classic

comedy man i don't know i think um if i had a cult classic uh Um, I mean, I feel like everything I liked is no longer a cult classic. Like I liked days and confused when it was a cult classic, but now it's just kind of like this on every poster. Yeah, it's huge. Colt classic. I mean, I like, um, I'm going to get you suck a occult classic or is that just a classic? Yeah, I mean, I think so. I think is, don't be a menace to South Central while drinking your juice in the hood, a cult classic.

Her is it just a classic? By the way. Is McGruber? Is McGruber a cult classic? Because I love McGruber. Yes. You know what I'll call a cult classic that's like recent? Grandma's boy.

Pop star. I haven't seen Pop star. You have to see Pop Star. It's Andy Sandberg and Akiva and Yorma that were like in a sketch group that went to SNL and they do all the music together, right? So they did a movie that's like a mockumentary about a Justin Bieber type guy who left his like hip hop group to become a huge star and like them getting back together and it just skewers all that pop culture bullshit but is also just like so so fucking funny and again just nobody's

yeah i'll check it out because i'm in need of uh i got a lot of traveling to do here soon right but um on about my father we're succession fans and we know carl's in the movie yeah we know you've worked with Greg Deegg before. Yeah. And how to be single. Yeah. What was it like working with Carl? I guess did it like coincide with the series where, you know, people are asking him like,

what the fuck's going to happen, Carl? Yeah. During press, it was like, it was like we, I did press with him and Brett Dyer, who played my brother in the movie. And David Rishi, who was Carl on succession, played my father in about my father. And we all did press as like, a threesome together and almost like half of it was like and David tell us about how succession ends and we would just have to sit there but like about my father's funny that dude is the funniest

I think he steals the movie and I'm not trying to like undercut Bob or Sebastian but dude and even just like after work going out for dinner and watching him do like bits with like the waitstaff who are like is this like a crazy old person who like doesn't understand what's happening and you're just like you know he'll be like do you have wet wet wet wet wet wet wet wet wet wet um wet water and they're like yeah we can get you that we'll be right back and he goes oh and uh one of those warm napkins thank you and they're just like uh-huh i don't know what's going on um you know but funnier than that because he's funnier than that um yeah and then uh gregg and then i also worked with the guy named Aryan who was in this show that I did that was called.

Oh, Stewie. Stewie. Yeah. Stewie. And he's awesome. All three of those dudes, Nick, they're all, I mean, obviously they're all great because they're on a great show. But yeah, it's fun to, like, have a foot in. And I actually need to watch the last couple seasons.

I haven't. Oh, we won't say anything. I fell off the truck. I won't say anything. Greg dies. Again. But we won't say anything. Yeah. All right. So, you know, we're talking about, about my father, like, you're a tennis guy in there. And I'm just wondering what the odds would be if you guys played each other in tennis because Megan's a former athlete. He's very proud of his tennis career. Did you play tennis? Did you have to take lessons? Were you, like, a good tennis player?

I had a brother who went down state in high school. So like I had a little bit of experience playing with him. And I went to tennis camp until like seventh grade and then I focused on swimming. Okay. Let's try to connect here. You have three kids. Chris and I are about to have our third kid, not together, but respectively. Yeah.

Is three the right number of kids to have? Yeah, because I'm a third. So like that's how I look at it. Oh, you're the third. I'm a third of three boys too. You're the baby. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm the oldest of three. Must be nice. What's going on with the, yeah, right? That's what they say. The middle child really gets it the easiest. Kyle gets it the easiest. We talk about that on the pot a lot. What's going on with the writer's strike, man?

I see you talking about the writer's strike on social. Yeah. You know, like you seem to be pretty entrenched in it. Explain, help us download what the hell's going on. So basically it comes down to compensation for writers and it comes down to like work conditions. So there's just been a lot of things that have been happening as television and movies have moved from theaters and traditional television like network writer cable to streamers. And there's a lot of like loopholes where these production companies, these streamers, are trying to make writers work under different conditions, whether that is, hey, we're only

going to do six or ten episodes, but we're going to sign you to a contract for a year. So when you used to work doing like 22 episodes for like the office or one of those network shows, you were set for the year. Like you were busy the whole year, you didn't have to worry. But now you work for 10 episodes. You've got an entire like half of the year that you're just sitting. there twiddling your thumbs like I can't take other income like no one's going to hire me because they don't want to be second position to another show that could come back out of nowhere

right um and then also just like the way things used to work and by the way I know business is evolved but like this is this strike is part of the evolution so the way things used to work is you would get paid X for um when an episode aired originally right and then it would air a and you get paid a little less than X. Then it could go into syndication and you would get paid all over again. And if it was a success, it would just keep syndicating year after year after year after year. And because they're selling ad dollars off of the product you created, they are making money. And so you are making money.

And it's a fabulous thing. So that like if you wrote an episode of TV 20 years ago, you might get a $500 check in the mail out of nowhere because it just played on some. network in Australia or something, right? So it was cool. And by the way, you got 500, but the network got X amount of money, more, right? So like everybody was stoked. But as things have turned global,

the syndication practice has diminished. It's a little bit smaller. It doesn't exist. If I do a show for Netflix, Netflix is global. So like, I'm not getting paid again when it goes to a different region. I'm just getting paid that one time and it's not even going to syndicate here in the States again.

It's just going to live there. So you would think that we would be getting paid more up front for that one thing, like that one time based on the fact that we used to get paid a little bit, not a little bit, but like what we got paid, and then you get paid more as they kept making more money. And so like, you know, these people who created like a show like Friends, sure they're richer than you could ever imagine but then on Netflix it was like a huge success and they don't get paid based on how much of his success it was 20 years later even if it was

the biggest show on the largest streamer which just seems kind of bogus right especially if it's like the thing you created and so we're just trying to um close the loopholes on that kind of stuff and you know there's also dirty shit like Comedy Central where workaholics was we have to get paid for full episodes right so what they would do is they would cut about three or four minutes out of episodes to make it like illegally a clip and then they would just play the entire seasons with episodes missing three minutes out of it on their website with ads playing making revenue That's wild. And I'm not making money off of that. So you're just like, you know, if you guys were just cool about it, like, and not so money hungry, we wouldn't have to do this. But I get it, you know, you want to stat cash. Everybody does.

But we want to get our money too, you know. Yeah, exactly. I mean, have you lost friends over it? Like in the industry? No, it's not even like that. It's not even like that. It's like. It's not a hardcore thing.

It's, it's, I don't make it hardcore. I'm just like, this is business as usual. What do you expect for me to just like, work for peanuts? Like, sorry, it's not going to happen. Just like I wouldn't expect producers not to be like looking for way more ways to like make money. But when you do it in like shady ways where you're like cutting corners, then it's like, what are you doing? Just we're all, everybody's making out great.

Why do you need to like ruin it by like screwing us out of something? And then there's the whole like AI thing, which I'm not truly concerned about because I just think AI is inevitable. And that's not a popular take among writers who were like, what do you mean? They're going to have robots writing for us. And I'm like, yeah, but if, and they will. And if they don't, they're going to do it in other countries and like, you know, it's, I think it's inevitable. So if they really want to open the floodgates to have chat GPT, or that type of thing writing scripts now.

They just need to be ready for the other foot to drop, which is that these AI things can also make movie posters. They can handle marketing. They can do scheduling. They can do their job just as easily. So like, you know, like if they want to make that bed, they're going to end up sleeping in it. And then we'll all be fucked.

And I think it'll come down to the government being like, all right, we can't really do this stuff. I think we'll be fucked because I, I don't think chat GPT can be funny. Yeah, it can. You think? Yeah, I've seen. Have you seen it be funny?

And here's another thing. And I don't want to sound like an asshole. But like writers are writing like little notes on their like strike signs. And like half of it says like, writers guild striking. And then the other half is blank for like you to write like a clever whatever. 75% of them are garbage. Like 75% of them are not funny. Right.

So like, it's as funny as chat GPT and 25% or 20% of them are good. And then 5% of them, you're like, Jesus, that's a fucking bullseye right there. Great joke. Yeah. But like, it's going to get better. It's going to get funnier. It's going to get more human, you know. And I know people argue like, well, it doesn't have life experience.

And it's like, yes, but as long as we're documenting life experience, which is happening more and more at an exponential rate, whether it's like writing or vlogging. vlogging or streaming, like, it's downloading all this information and idiosyncrasy and categorizing just like the human brain does. Like, we're not special. We're not mystical. Like, we just repeat things that we saw that we think are cool and then we do our take. It's going to be able to do that.

And, you know, it's only around for broadly for like six months or something, right? Maybe a year, chat GPT or that kind of thing. in 10 years like come on it's going to be insane it's going to be wild so anyway I'm less concerned about that yeah oh yeah and like school

like are my kids going to write anything no they're not going to write anything are you kidding me um and writers aren't going to write anything if you're a writer and you're not using chat gpT to get that first draft out like yeah wouldn't you want to be writing 10 screenplays at once instead of just that one like writers are

lying if they're saying they're not going to use it. Anyway. Yeah, that's true. Where are you on? Maybe Rassillo can finally get something off the ground. Right, Rissillo, yeah. Talentless Hack. Anders' 15-minute commencement speech was the fastest thing the Cole Center's ever seen.

That's a basketball pace joke. Oh, that's good. Oh, yeah? That's good. Very slow, slow, slow, slow basketball team. Here's a little factoid. Dick Bennett, the basketball coach. Yeah.

Played college football with my dad at Ripon College. No way. Yeah. Go check out the Hall of Fame at Ripon College. Dick Bennett comes to all the games here. Oh, yeah? Dick Bennett's son, Tony, wins national championships at Virginia. Yeah, we also play slow as fuck, so thanks a lot.

It is no joke. Yeah, so Anders, appreciate the time, dude. We told you we get you out by midnight. And I think we did it. So enjoy that, LaCroix. And I cannot wait to see the movie. Keyline deliciousness. Yeah, check out the movie.

Check out the movie and stay tuned for Godzilla King of the Monsters or something. I don't know what it's called. But they're going to have a crazy title for it, I promise. I can't wait. Thanks for coming on long overdue. And we'll see you soon, dude. Hey, man, just want to say, your mom, I was trying to think of one too and I couldn't.

Your mom eats caterpillars for breakfast. Oh, yeah? Yeah, I don't think that one's very good. It's not good at all right. Personally, why don't we kick this thing back off? Why don't we commit to kicking this thing back off? Are you even still on Twitter, like in this hellscape that it is currently? Yeah, for this, I'll get back on.

What about your mom's got a chip on her shoulder? or it's a it's a sour cream and onion wait and I did want to say about the two lane four lane joke you got to set up you got a punchline is there a tag is there a tag that you can add to that where it's like you heard two lanes expending it's going to be four lanes traffic both ways like a like another little third layer I've never never layered a third layer. Historically, it's been uproarious laughter. Because when people are laughing and you drag it out.

Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I really haven't had an opening to add a layer to it. This is the best guess we've ever had because you just put you in your place, you know? Well, it's like looking into a mirror, you know. Okay, yeah. You just, you're in your house and no last. This is just joke mechanics.

I feel like it would really stretch it out in a way where like you can live in it a little longer. because I feel like that's what you like to do. Can you give us tips on being funny because we're not? But, you know, like... Did you hear the Cole Center? Can you, yeah? Can you actually teach somebody to be funny?

Because I know you're like, you know, you write and you work with people. And I feel like you know that somebody's either got it or they don't. Or is there like a 20% gap that you can close with some people by technique? I think there's a 20% game. Yeah. Yeah, you just work at it. Really? like any muscle. Yeah, I think it's like, it's like any talent. Like if you got to be like a little bit

there, but if you work hard and you hone in and you kind of watch the people who you like or the people who people like and you go, wow, that person's like really dialed in in this way, like, why'd they laugh again at that part? You know, you just analyze it. You know what I mean? It's like watching tape, right? Yeah. You can pick up other people's tricks. Try it yourself. See if it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't. But you just try another thing, and if that works, it works. And then you move on and you've got like another arrow in your quiver or whatever. So I'm just saying, I think adding a little tag to it will really stretch it out in a more uncomfortable way.

And it'll double down on it in that you think it's very good. by the time your mom left Tulane place had become four lane traffic both ways gotta go there it is we gotta go there it is

and it's midnight on the dot guys thanks for having you honors appreciate you dude we'll see you next time okay all right brother Take it easy.