Green Light with Chris Long - Arthur Smith! The Falcons Offseason Upgrades, Boring NBA Playoffs & GL on the River

Episode Date: May 23, 2023

(3:12) - Chris and Macon talk Matt's good deed, review the Killers of the Flower Moon trailer, why the NBA is boring and Big Ben's big reveal to Kenny Pickett (19:06) - Arthur Smith talks Bijan Robinson, Kyle Pitts, Drake London, Desmond Ridder, upgrading the defense with Jeff Okudah, Calais Campbell, Bud Dupree and the 2023 Falcons season outlook (1:03:04) - Dr. Fax talks some conspiracy theories and the upcoming GL trip to Philly in Chris' RV (1:09:58) - Green Light River Trip brought to you by Appomattox River Company (1:30:25) - Mailbag Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at paddleva.com to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b   Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42   Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1   Green Light with Chris Long:   Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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today. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. Arthur Smith stops by Studio James. We're graced by both Macon and Aid today. First of making kick the show off, then we go right into Arthur Smith. He talks to the Falcons 2023 NFL Draft class, headlined by B. John Robinson,

going to use him, how he's going to fit with Cordero Patterson and Kyle Pitts. Also everything they did to bolster that defense, all the signings like Callais Campbell and Jesse Bates, trade for Jeff Okuda, Bud Dupree. And then Chris comes in for a little fun. We do a quick mailbag. We talk the river and Nate's trip down to Appomattox River Company to get set out with a couple kayaks, some gear, everything for the river they had and we got it. Nate also brought his conspiracy theorist hat.

He fired off some takes. We asked him a few more. So you'll stick around for that. And please enjoy. You'll hear about a little trip to Philly that we're taking in Chris's RV. Pray for us. Can I tell you guys what happened to me today? I lost his job.

I don't know if this is good for pot or not. But I was- Max, more sex? I was walking back along the back parking lot. And I saw this lady distractedly like back into this other car, dented really bad and pulled out. Stop it. And I got her license.

plate. Really? So I wrote a note to the car owner with the license plate of the lady who peeled out. Okay, so the question is that a code break? Vigilante justice. What Matt did? Yeah, I think it's the right thing. Karma's coming back. Karma nice. What kind of car was it? Oh, uh, the car that got hit? The car that did the hitting. It's like a midsize SUV. I got a good look at that lady. We locked eyes blue. Blue? Blue. Like a navy blue? You don't have make a model? What'd she look like? Middle age. Sharon.

I need a race. Woman. Race, please. Hispanic looking mid-30s. Whoa, Matt. Jesus, Matt. Jesus. Come on. Oh, my God, dude.

Seriously about this? I got a hello. Okay. Do your hello. Well, as you may remember, the hello comes after the name of the place. Oh, okay. That's where they're filming.

of the flower moon. One of my favorite film. Yeah. Okay. I can't call it. Is he doing that for the role? I think he gained a ton of weight for that movie called The Whale.

And it's hard to get it off. I'm not calling him fat in like a bad way. It's just he's bigger than he used to be. What is this, Flowers of Osage Mountain or something? Killers of the Flower Moon. I mean, I'm supposed to be fixated on Robert De Niro. I'm supposed to be fixated on Leo's

bad accent. it's making point out as well but I'm looking at Brennan Frazier Hey I'm here for the Brennan Fraser career renaissance Another guy whose face goes Out and in is Jesse Plymonds Who's also in this film looked to be a rather thin-faced Jesse Plemons

What'd you guys think of that trailer Because you hadn't seen it before today I think if you take Scorsese's name off it You take the actor's name off it It's not going to bring anybody to the theater I think because you're seeing Scorsese and because you're seeing DiCaprio De Niro at all

you're thinking it's a great trailer. It's going to be a good movie. I trust all the people in the movie. I don't need the plot. There's no plot. Brosef, I read this one sentence on the internet and I'm all the way in. In the 1920s, all right? Members of the Osage Native American tribe of Osage County, Oklahoma are murdered after oil is found on their land

and the FBI decides to investigate. Great film. Who are the wolves? Scorsesee? Yeah, they're talking about who are all the wool. I think the murderers would be the wolves. So, yeah, I can spot the wolves. They all lack melanin.

Right, yeah. Okay, so yeah, yeah, yeah. Brendan Frazier put on a fat suit for whale, and it was controversial. Yeah. Is what I just read on Google. Because it was like Ableist or something? Man, I don't even know.

It was a fat suit? Yeah, well, there is a movement within the acting world to have people portraying someone. For sure. It looks like that. I agree. But what if that big person can't act? Yeah, it's come on. And like talking about Robert De Niro, like he lost 80 pounds to play Raging Bowl and then gained it right back.

Well, you know, that's happening too with Harrison Ford. And they're going to redo, I guess, what, Indiana Jones? Yeah, there's a... And they're deaging him. So, like, it's CGI and he's going to be all young and sexy. And Scorses is the... one that really got that started with the Irishman De Niro and Pacino who would you like to see deage like give me a franchise that you'd like to see rebooted because you know by a de-aging

I was thinking like well you go I don't know why the name Jeff George came into my head but I just think you'd be a great quarterback if you could de-age him you want to de-age Jeff George oh that's a different direction than I was thinking I don't make any sense at all John Wayne D.H John Wayne Cowboy You say jiff or gif? I go jiv. I don't even know who John Wayne is, really. I sent two John Wayne GIFs this weekend. You don't know who John Wayne is?

Not really. Like Westerns, yeah? All right. How about Brandy Love? You could D.H. I'm guessing by the sound of his laugh, this is a pornographic actress. I was singing Terminator with Schwarzenegger?

You know? They do that a little bit in Terminator Genesis, make him look a little bit. Terminator Genesis. Yeah, it's trash. Is that like back? to the miners? Kind of.

It's like they go back to the 84 timeline all over again. Major League. Yeah, go back and do major league. Yeah. That's good. Well, that was Yooker. Wild thing. Yeah, that was art.

Reed, I know you're a big PGA guy. Did you see the club pro Michael Block think that ace yesterday? Blocky, blocky, he dunked it right in the hole and I don't think he realized it. No, that was so cool. Because he walked down the fairway. He was like, did it go in? It went in. And his cat, he was even, he was range finding it.

He had a range finder just to make sure it dropped right in the hole. He does look like Ricillo. That's what you pointed out. Two S's, two L's. And he looks like if Blake Bordles and Ryan Rassillo had a baby. Which I don't know that we can rule that out. No. Well, biologically.

Well, I had a good point. But yeah, he does look like Ricillo. And by the way, Rissila was just at the Combine in Texan me. He's like, I'm with your twin. He was with Larry Nance. Oh, very cool. Say hello. Great.

And I guess Larry's aware of the... Oh, that warms my heart. Very good. Yeah, Larry Nance Jr. and me, inextricably linked. Yeah. The NBA is down to its final four, and both series are 30. And I got to say, like, when we went into these conference finals, eastern and western, I'm always thinking, like, big business, and I'm thinking to myself, like, the NBA has a rooting interest here.

for sure. I mean, Celtics, Lakers. I mean, this would be like if Dallas was hosting Tampa and the Steelers were hosting Jacksonville. And Roger Goodell had to watch Jacksonville and Tampa go on to win and play in a Super Bowl. The market situation in Denver and Miami,

there's big markets, like Miami. Medium. Big market. Medium market. Thank God. Jimmy Butler's there. In Denver, medium market. again in the NBA. Remember I told you to bet a sweet. You did. And I bet the series and I almost bet, I almost bet nuggets by more than two and a half games.

But I got really nice futures lined up. I have a big future for the nuggets to beat the heat. And I also have a big future for the heat to win the whole thing. So either way, I'm going to be in the plus column. But like this has just, I mean, it's been a great playoff.

The conference final. suck. Will the finals suck, Matt? Because when I texted Ryan Rosillo a couple days ago and I was going to bet Heat Money Line, which I did over a course of a couple nights, he was like, I don't know, man. Boston's really talented. They're much more talented. And I'm looking at, you know, Denver and I'm looking at Miami and somebody could say the same thing who's going to guard Yokage, the whole thing. But like, could that be a series. It definitely could be a series. The one factor with the NBA always to keep in mind is injury. Like at any time. Denver, like, they're one guy away from being pretty thin.

So if they stay healthy, I really, really like their chances. But that injury possibility is always there. But yeah, I think Denver's probably going to win the finals. And get Joe Missoula out of here, huh? I mean, he always talks about how he watches the town four times a week. He got these sweatshirts printed that say, like, whose car are we going to take? I guess now they're asking, like, whose car are we going to take to the airport? Yeah, they're taking a fucking Hawker 800 to Cancun.

Yeah. How about a T-shirt that says, how do you like that? them apples. How quick can Jimmy Butler get that printed since we're just jacking off Boston you know cinema for clout? Yeah get Joe Missoula out of here get the Celtics out of here and another thing is the uniform situation is not great well Denver is screwing everything Denver's fucking everything up could you imagine if Miami went back to Tim Hardaway's and Denver went back to the Alex Englishes yeah they have the best jersey in the league if they just wear the Alex English Nuggets jersey.

The best in the whole league. Just do it. It's up there. But they're not going to do it. Speaking of that, in the NFL, and we do have Arthur Smith on today to satisfy your NFL needs. We got the Giants wearing the 1980 throwbacks twice next year. And it would be really cool if the Eagles could wear their Kelly Greens

and kind of coordinate this thing. Like, you know, the whole World War. one, let's play football in the trenches on Thanksgiving or whatever was Christmas. Same thing here. Like let's, you know, let's get Brian Davel and Nick Siriani on the phone and let's, let's make this happen. Call me a purist. I do like in the NBA, the home team wearing white, the road team wearing their color. And then I felt typically the home team's wearing their color, the road team's wearing a white. There are some exceptions in sports that, occur regularly like USC UCLA in football they'll go with the with the USC red versus the baby

blue of UCLA I would love the Kelly green um uh uh uh color way et cetera but I prefer the giants be wearing the mismatch navy blue lid with the blue jersey and the and then the eagles and the white uni with the silver and Kelly green yeah an old carol car mic yeah that'd be gorgeous yeah that'd be great yeah That would be great. NFL news. We are in that part of the year. I just saw a ranking of the top 75 quarterbacks since 2000 in college football. Where does Bryce Young land on that list?

Sorry, I'm not going to click on that article. But we did get Big Ben on a podcast with Kenny Pickett. His own podcast, right? His own podcast talking about we should have Ben on for a home and home since we're buddies with him from that Kenny Chesney concert. Yeah. I'm sure he remembers. But yeah, like Ben got into some hot water because and when you read the headline, it says like Big Ben didn't want Kenny Pickett to succeed. When you watch the interview, it's obviously couched with like a lot of love and like, hey, I root it for you once you got going. But like initially when somebody's succeeding you and you've been there 20 years, you don't want that

person to sound like presidents. Well, the president will always say like I wish my success are the best, but in reality, do they? Probably not, which is fucked up. And I think that's a code break as a president, not to root for the next president, no matter what. But I don't think it's a code break in the NFL. I think Ben's saying the thing that a lot of guys think. Like, a lot of guys think that.

And I might count myself in that grouping if I had more of like a legacy to defend. Your job as an NFL player is your condition. to eliminate the competition. Now, I was nice to rookies. I definitely tried to bring them along, but I didn't think it was a necessity. And especially after you leave

and you're sitting on the couch and people are going to compare you to this guy, that guy, especially at the end of Ben's career, he took a lot of shit for his ineptitude, rightfully so. I don't think the first thing you're rushing to do is buy a Kenny Pick of Jersey. I just, I don't see the big deal in this whole thing.

How different is it from Ryan, Tannahill saying he's not, he's not Malik Willis's, uh, mentor. He's like, I'm not here mentor. See, if you'll remember, I didn't have a problem with that either, you know, um, the sound bites worse than, than anything. It's just, it's something to drive a wedge between you and a teammate. But at the end of the day, like, if we're being realistic, like, especially Ryan Tannahill and Malik Willis, because while Ben's on the couch, he can, you know, Kenny can't take his spot on the couch. Like that's secure. Malik's competing to take

his job. And a year later, you can remember the whole Malik Willis craze for a week when he made three plays in preseason. We were like how many weeks before he takes Dan Hills job? And now they're talking about training Malik Willis. I think it's just interesting to look back at that in retrospect. But

I have no problem with what Big Ben said, especially in the nature with which he said it. He was talking to Kenny Pickett. You know, telling the truth. It's hard to get mad at somebody for telling the truth about the way they feel.

So many people lie about that. And we do. We do. We do. I'm a sucker because like the first day that Derek Barnett shows up and I'm in Philly. I've talked about this at length like him getting drafted and me going there and you know like it's a rotation.

It's not quarterback. But you know, I'm not immediately rooting for Derek Barnett. But after a day or two, if you like the guy, it's hard not to. And I quickly became his big as. fan and it's just one of those things is kind of ingrained in football players and competition athletes that you you have to compete with everybody even when you're

not on the team I am rooting for every single other real estate agent to fail yeah right I'm not at all discriminating based on age agency say a divorce happens not gonna happen. We love our lovely wives. Yeah. But then hopefully they love us too because obviously they could leave us. But I'm hoping she's she winds up with Quasimodo. Right. You know, like I'm hoping

she winds up with Brendan Fraser from the whale. Yeah. You know, I'm not, I don't want Brad Pitt. Unless Brad Pitt's got a micro, you know. Cash app. The easy way to send, spend, save and invest with friends. Cash app helps

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Every Thursday of 430 on amp, check us out. It's a Taylor Heineke mentioned in the Arthur Smith interview, which you'll hear right now. I really like Arthur Smith. I enjoyed talking to him. I've heard amazing things about the guy. And I really do think in a division like the NFC South, there's gains to be made. And they have accrued some really good talent, especially offensively.

You talk about like tight end wide receiver, running back, Bijan, you know, you've got Kyle Pitts, you have Drake London. They have really stacked up some nice young players on the offensive side of the football. Defensively, they brought in some reintroducing. enforcement. A lot of mixture of veterans and guys from indivision, you know, guys that they're used to playing against. I'm really excited about the Bud Dupree signing. See what he's got left in the tank. Calais Campbell's obviously a veteran. I love the guy from New Orleans. They picked up. They're going to be better this year. Jesse Bates and Jeff Okuda. Jesse Bates, Okuda.

Yeah. So reinforcements are on the way. This year is going to come down to Ritter. I don't know. I don't know. Success this year, Ritter's going to going to have to step up. And he might be the guy. We'll see. We just don't know yet. We'll see. Hey, self call here. Okay. I said five of their first six were at home and then then he hit me that the ones in London. Well, it's on me, you know. They're going to be the home team in London. Good job getting out ahead of it. That's what I meant. But wait, wait till you hear what he said about London. We might have to go to London. Right. If that thing happens. Okay. So enjoy Arthur Smith. And on the back end, we'll have Dr. Faxon for a couple of minutes to do a mailback. Talk about the

this weekend. We had a nice trip. In his new boat. As a green light staff, most of the staff, well, some of the staff, we had a smattering of employees there. And softball team members. Softball team members. Congrats to my nephew Chase, graduating UVA law school. Yeah. Bigups.

Congrats. You know, with all the degrees kids get now, you could have skipped that and come to the river. Well, even this cat Chase himself said, you know, maybe a Ph.D. Like, what are we doing here on this? earth. We're just living and dying. Might as well stay in school my whole life.

Nah. Said, you got it, pal. I think the other way around. Next time, that blue kayak loaded up for you. Yeah. And he's got his son hoodie now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got all the, all the ingredients, man. Just need to show up, you know, one of these, one of these Sundays, okay? We'll get them on the river. All right, here's Arthur Smith, and then stick around for a second on the back end. All right, this is a treat because we haven't had a lot of Falcons people on and a guy that I've heard so many great things about.

We were just talking offline. We got some mutual friends. Coach Arthur Smith, appreciate you joining the podcast. How are you? Great. Appreciate you guys having me on here. It's good to have you, man.

The first thing I want to do, we just had Dan Campbell on and we do something called a layup line here where we pick a song to pump up the podcast a little bit. It doesn't always have to be a pump up song. so we did a little research on you. For Dan, it was like, hey, Metallica or Skinnerd, give us a Skinnerd song. For you, we did some digging, and we found out that at least when you were in college,

Bruce Springsteen was maybe your favorite artist. Is that true? Yeah, I like the boss. I mean, that's always a solid, non-controversial one to go with. Yeah, so do you have a favorite Bruce Springsteen song? I mean, it depends what time of the year. I mean, if you're trying to get the, you know, summer, I mean, you can certainly go born to run, I guess.

But any of the other, you know, certainly there's plenty of country songs that I don't know you could use as well. Okay. Well, it is just about summer, so we'll go born to run. It's a good choice. Safe choice. Safe. Yeah. And by the way, your new quarterback, Taylor Heineke, when we had him on, we figured because of where he's from,

he would know something about the Alman Brothers, and we teed it up for him to pick an Alman Brothers song. he had never heard of the almond brothers. That's a shame. Can you rectify that situation? I'll try to do that. Okay, good. Coach, I want to start with the draft, man. You guys have been picking up some really nice, young, talented players over the last

couple of years. And some of the free agents you got are my personal favorites. Like, I love Bud Dupree and Bates is a hell of a player. On Yamada, like a bunch of guys that jump off the screen. And it looks like you're putting together a pretty good nuclear. but the running back pick and Bijon Robinson obviously a special guy I think you look at this position and we devalue it but what made him an exception to the rule and is there a rule with you in your history always having good running backs well yeah I think with Bijon he's a

he's a different kind of running back I mean that's that's the thing similar to how you know we've used Cordell Patterson yeah but they don't just fit in that certain box and then we've done the same thing with certain tight ends. We'll do it with John O. Smith, who we had in Tennessee. We traded with New England to get John O'Nood down here. Because I always use the analogy, Kyle Pitts and John O'Smith are both listed as tight ends, but they can play so many different spots.

And feel the same thing about Bijon as we do with Cordero Patterson. They're very different players of Tyler Alger. And the thing about Bijon that stood out is, and I've used this analogy, he's a home run hitter. And it didn't matter what scheme Texas ran. You know, from the hand in the ball in the backfield where they're running gap or, you know, mid-zone, wide zone, whatever you wanted to call it, he was a home run hitter. He was a great yards after contact player with really good balance. And then when you spread him out, he's played in the slot.

He had that background and some of the 7-on-7 stuff he did out of Tucson, Arizona when he came out of high school. He did it at Texas. So, I mean, he's a unique football player, and the more you looked at it, I mean, he's a guy that can get the ball across the coal line. So we'll take guys like that anyway we can get him. Yeah, for me, as a defensive lineman, I had nightmares watching this kid's tape because of his ability to bounce. I mean, every play can go to the sideline. And I know that is that an important thing to you as well? It is.

I mean, I think, Chris, as you guys, you know better than anybody, when you're playing late in the year, those guys that can break tackles, I mean, they're a pain in the ass to play against. It's why Tyler, Alger, if you really look at the second half of the season last year, and Tyler's a different yards after. contact player. Those carries, they add up. So we're excited about, I think we're going to be pretty unique offensively, but that certainly helps. I ran into Howie Long in the wild a couple weeks before the draft. I said, hey, how are you doing Big Howe? He said, the kid from Texas is the best player in the draft. I was like, all right. He did. Non-Secretor, just like, he loves that runoffback, man. I'm curious with Tyler, who had a great year, do you give him a phone call after the pick is made and say, hey, you're still a big part of this.

We're going to do multiple different things. Absolutely. You know, I always try to be direct with our players. Certainly, I would want to know. And some people think, all right, well, you don't have to share that, but I feel differently because I do want Tyler to know. I mean, this isn't a player that's going to replace them. Yeah.

You know, a lot of people try to use the Derek Henry analogy. I got asked a lot after the draft, which is ridiculous. I would never ask somebody to be Derek. What Derek did for us in 19 and 20 when I was in Tennessee is rare. And I just, I don't believe, you know, in comparison to players like that. And I think with Tyler, I think the way the season goes, I mean, if you can get about 1,100 plays on offense, you're averaging about 65 snaps a game over 17. So if you try to split it down the middle, which we'd like to be more balanced, I mean,

it's a lot of carriers you've got to distribute. And last year, Marcus took a lot of the carries. You know, we were heavily, you know, we ran the ball quite a few times. And quarterback run, which we'll still lean into, but Marcus was different. So Marcus took a, you know, he supplemented a lot of carries. That won't be the case this year. So when you have other guys that carry the ball, that helps. When you had a Derek Henry is one-of-a-kind kind of guy,

I feel like every year is, like, media members and his former player, you're sitting there and you're like, is this going to be the year? he takes a step back, you know, the attrition catches up to him. Was there a conversation that was ongoing in that building about like the net usage and was he included in that? And I bet you the answer would be he wanted the ball as many times as possible. He did. And, you know, every team I've been a part of.

I mean, you're always conscientious of that and, you know, what the trends are and certainly with the player, you know, where he's at, you know, I think Derek is a throwback type of guy. I mean, you go back and look at it. Chris, I don't know how you felt, or maybe you feel now when you see some of the, all the advanced metrics of people trying to monitor the GPS tracking, the load management.

I know that term gets thrown around a lot, certainly in the NBA, and then you go back and look at people that played in your dad's era and the Walter Payton's and the Jerry Rice, I mean, you go back and there's great, NFL films of that and their work ethic. I would think Derek, you know, what Derek did to get himself ready for the season, I wouldn't count him out. I think what he does is pretty unique and special. He certainly doesn't try to hold back. With Kyle Pitts and, you know, your background,

I mean, one of the things I loved about what y'all did in Tennessee so much was the play action naturally was a big part of what y'all did. And it was a nightmare for a defensive lineman trying to transition and and kind of get a read on what y'all are doing does adding a running back like this and I know you already have some forces in the backfield but just can you continue to lean into that a little bit and with Kyle Pitts and being a tight end technically is there more opportunity for him you know off of that run game yeah absolutely I mean you go back and look at his rookie here you know where he broke a lot of records he had over a thousand yards receiving now we were a little bit different with Matt back there, a quarterback. And it's funny how people forget, you know,

be one thing if Kyle was still riding the hype machine, you know, coming in the league when we drafted him out of Florida. But Kyle did have a really productive rookie year. And then last year, he was fighting through some things and he still had a large impact on us winning. Certainly there's things that we all could, you know, improve on. And the thing is, but Kyle, he's wired the right way and I think certainly this is going to be a big year for him and he's got a bright future. But it does. It is kind of comical, Chris, sometimes you look back and kind of the way society is. Sometimes I joke, I think we're living through the most technologically advanced era in

humankind, but probably the most, you know, uninformed era of humankind too. People's attention spans are so small and there's people, you know, there's all the stuff's at your fingertips, there's no context to anything anymore. And I mean, that's kind of certainly if you look at Kyle. you know, his rookie here, certainly he made some big plays for us last year. We missed some opportunities, but we're excited. We're excited to, you know, when everybody's out there and where this offense can go. And then you get a guy like Drake London who is a lot of fun to watch.

I like physical receivers, I guess. And this kid, you know, didn't test, you know, traditionally well when it comes to like, oh, he didn't run like X or Y or Z. what was it about that decision and what went into that calculus like do you not focus as much on the numbers when you look at a guy's combine if you really love the player like how did that go down well you take it you know all relative there's certain things with with drake he was coming off the ankle injury yeah and so he was kind of he was late working out uh we were able to go work him out privately at USC which helped yeah but go back to the tape, you know, there's certain guys, I mean, you know, you're not going to make a four-seven guy, it's not going to become a four-three guy when you use the old analogy. He's faster with the ball in his hands. But that, from that four, mid-four-fours to high four-fives, I mean, if you go back and look at AJ Brown and Derek Henry, they weren't, you know, sub-four-four guys,

but they run away from a lot of people the last couple years with the ball in their hands. Yeah. And they did that in college, too. And then Drake, I got another guy. Yeah, he may not be the 4-3 guy, but he made a lot of explosive plays at USC, did it inside and out. One of the more competitive players have been fortunate enough to coach, and then you could see that basketball background, too. He's got great spatial awareness. Good feel for in the zone. Yeah. Coach, really important question. Do you like your uniforms? Which one? You talk about the gradient red. Yeah, which one's your favorite? Let's start there. Yeah. And how do you all pick? Did the players pick?

with y'all because you know fish used to Jeff Fisher used to come in and be like what do you all feel like wearing today and the old lineman wouldn't want to wear all white because they said they look fat and you know there's just the whole thing going on in the building yeah we got to turn those those end about this time of here about what jersey you wear uh-huh now they'll let you wear the the throwbacks three times and throwbacks

with the red helmets and so we'll do that and then so then you pick obviously you can control the home jersey but you can't control the away one. Right. I know this will be unfortunate, you know, people will be upset about this, but we won't wear those red gradient jerseys this year. Wow. Breaking news. Breaking news. As long as you wear the throwbacks, coach, throwbacks are beautiful. Oh, my God. Did the players get a say in that? I always talk to them about the paint colors and, you know, I'll ask some guys, but as you know, Chris, you ask 90 guys, you're going to get 90 different opinions at some point.

Exactly. Exactly. You get paid to make a decision. So, yeah. Well, I'm switching over to defense for a second. I mentioned Bud Dupree. One of my favorite players, I thought he didn't get enough credit in Pittsburgh and really in Tennessee either. What goes into making that decision? What void does he fill for you guys? On Yamada, what did you see in him?

I know that the D.C. came over from New Orleans and you probably got a pretty good book on him playing him in division. Those guys you brought in Bates, him, Callais, Bud Dupree. what was the calculus with infusing some of that talent? Yeah, I just wanted to, we wanted to obviously get more stout on the defensive line and be able to rotate guys. I mean, I think back to that Super Bowl you won in Philly, and the way you guys platoon that D-Line.

Yeah. I think that helps, of course, of a 17-game season. We've asked a lot out of Grady Jarrett the last two years, and even Lorenzo Carter last year on that side of we got back. I mean, he'll play a ton of snaps for us. We'd like to be able to rotate guys a little bit more. So when you're, that's the plan. We feel good about our depth there.

And you mentioned it, I mean, Bud, you know, it doesn't matter the scheme. When you're an edge player like that, I'm sure that was probably maybe somebody brought that up going from the Rams and when you were played in New England to Philly. I mean, you're an edge guy. So Bud's very similar. And he could set an edge. Certainly been one of the better. be the power guys I've seen in the last couple of years.

And then when you get, you can roll Callais and Lorenzo Carter and Arnold Evacati's another guy. We drafted that we expect to take another step. And then Interior with David, another guy, obviously being in the division, we were well aware of David. Ryan's got a lot of, Nielsen's got a lot of history with them. And one of those guys, too, when you play them when I was in Tennessee or didn't, you know, our first year's Atlanta, guys, you can tell when you hear the old line talk about certain guys. we're excited, David, it's a falcon now. Yeah, exactly.

I'm sure the offensive line feels that way, but it's complicated during training camp. Yeah, so defense, what's going to be different? I know you had D&P's last year, Ryan Nielsen's coming over. What does that scheme look like and what are going to be the cornerstones kind of like for, you know, a falcons defender in 2023? Yeah, well, we were certainly trying to get bigger along the lines of scrimmage when with Dean being here, and I really appreciate everything Dean did for us. Yeah, I mean, we were, I mean, when we got here, I told Dean this, I said,

we're not going to be able to spend a lot of money. We're going to try to, you know, develop our own guys the best we can. And there's a lot of veterans that I'm very appreciative of that came here on one-year deals and, you know, we weren't able to re-sign them or they may have been the last year of their career. and those guys did a lot for us. And this year, obviously, when the cap room opened, we were able to go out and spend a little bit more. But when you're talking about base 3, 4, 4.3,

as you know, when you're playing a lot of teams in sub-offense, you're going to be in a lot of four-down fronts. We'll still be a lot of five-down fronts. At the end of the day, what I'm probably not going to get into on here is the scheme part. But what you ask those guys to do, whether you're playing five-down or four-down, and if you're trying to ask certain guys the two gap or not.

I mean, to me, that's the difference in the traditional whole three, four, where you had a zero nose and two fours and people are playing a lot of shell defense, asking guys the two gap up front. And there are certain things we may or may not ask guys the two gap, but that, to me, is the biggest difference when you're talking about three, four to four three, because, I mean, how many different under fronts did you play, Chris, in your career? Well, I mean, it's, I played a lot of different schemes, and under, we played a little bit with Greg Williams,

and then, you know, you mentioned New England. And it was funny because, yeah, I was an edge guy. But then they were like, oh, by the way, you're going to play a lot of three this year. And I was like, I'm sorry. They tell you that when they recruited you that on here. They told me that week three when I think it was Jamie Collins got traded, I think. And then the whole scheme changed. And it was like, I came into work one day.

I was like, okay, I'm going to be working out with the detackles a lot. But yeah, I mean, you bounce around and, yeah, teaching the schemes, the fundamentals. are the same, right? But it's just different positioning, different hand-down, different pressure key. It's the repetition of transitioning from one scheme to the next. It's just reps.

Yeah, that's the thing. I'm excited. I'm excited about the depth we have up front and the possibility is where this team's going. Yeah, yeah. No question. You got the schedule that came out. I mean, you know your opponents for a while now,

but I think, you know, some people are like, how the content consumers, We already knew who they played, and now it's about whose social media team can come up with the best schedule release video. Do you have a say? Do you have to lay eyes on that schedule release video before? I know you probably saw Tennessee's this year. The Chargers have a pretty famous one. Yeah, you don't.

Where do you have? Do you have a say in that whole thing? Not really. I mean, I don't get that deep in the weeds on that stuff. Some people, you know, they'll lose their mind over. You know, the way the media landscape's changed, I mean, the teams now, I mean, they're media apartment, they're enormous. And so if you got worried about everything that's written, I mean, I'm not doing my job.

Yeah, you won't have time. No. But, you know, the thing I think you try to make sure is nothing that, you know, it's just absurd that's maybe classless, but I'm not a marketing person. So I try to just stay in my lane as best I can. when the schedule was released were you happy to see Bryce Young in week one,

Jordan Love in week two, as opposed to week 17, 18 because they're not going to have that many obviously reps under their belt and you see five, one, two, three, four, five out of the first six at home. Do you like the way

it shook out for you schedule-wise? I think the most important thing to me is the travel and the logistical planning with that part. We're going to London in week four.

We're not taking the buy. We went to London two years ago and took the buy. It was a week later. Those are things I care about more than, you know, I know people make a big deal, but we've all seen rookies

that come in week one and they light it up. I think if you go back and look, I believe Cam Newton had a 400-yard day passing. You can fact check him here. I think it was against Arizona. You're right.

And, you know, we played them when I was in Tennessee, it was a couple of weeks later. played pretty well and got up on them. And, you know, I don't, I don't know. I mean, that doesn't concern me as much. Some people get all unnerved if it's a new staff and they don't have enough film. But I don't, that doesn't concern me as much.

But the travel logistics is what I care about, how to plan out, you know, when your buy is. And that stuff does matter to me. What week is y'all's by this year? We have it off the top of my head. I know it's November 19th. I believe it's week. Is it 11? 11, which is a good spot for a buy, I feel like.

That's kind of sandwich in the middle enough, you know. We also got, Chris, we didn't get a Thursday night game. So, you know, I know a lot of people make a big deal of that mini buy, but I just try to take advantage of the fact that we don't have to cram for that short week. Yeah, that's the hard thing, right? What goes into trying to get your whole game? As a player, I used to, we're not worried about it, especially the D. Lyman. I'm like, okay, we're running over.

I'm good. but y'all were scrambling, like the coaches are, you can see it on their faces. It really throws off the routine. What goes into that Thursday week? Yeah, I've done it in so many different ways, you know, different staffs. I mean, I think another thing where it comes back to is the travel. Yeah. You know, where are you at?

Where are you at that Sunday before the Thursday game? And then if you do have to go on the road, how far is that travel? Because it is like cramming for an exam, you know, certainly from a game planning perspective. and then, you know, trying to get, I've done it so many different ways, and it's like, is, you know, how you handle that money night, if you haven't walked through that night or you don't, is that the difference? I don't know. I mean, at the day, the day, you know, once it's kicked off

and if you guys are ready to go and how you execute to me is more important than anything. So, no question. We don't have to worry about that this year. Coach, I didn't know this about you. I'm, like, the only person under the son that didn't know this about you until, like, last year that like you're part of the FedEx family i know you've talked about a lot probably a guy that didn't need to do this um i know you've discussed this but like what goes into you know the process of making that decision like i want to give my life to this

profession that that really is hard hard work uh when i know uh you would have been fine anyways but that's not how you're wired Well, I mean, I think it's a, you know, first off, I was lucky as hell to have two great parents. Yeah. And, you know, I think the biggest impact that this game, you know, has had for me in terms of a lot of it was passed down from my dad. And I don't know if you felt this, you know, obviously you grew up with a, you played the same sport as your father. Yeah. Obviously, a very successful career.

But there's something about football and the lessons it teaches you. And that's always my dad. My dad was a, you know, a Vietnam Marine did two tours, and he either wanted us to play football or my brothers, and I'm one at 10. So I've got an older brother and younger brother. We all played football, at least through the high school level, because he thought it was a game that could teach you a lot of lessons and about discipline and things that, you know, you wouldn't otherwise learn.

So it was either, you know, kind of wanted us to go in the military or play football to have that kind of structure. And the thing, Chris, you know, it's, I don't know if you felt this way, It didn't matter where you came from, but it is a profession where they keep score. It's not a perfect meritocracy at all, but it's better than most professions. And I love the fact that you go out there and compete. You know, it played as long as that good. It played, you know, through college in North Carolina.

You made a lot of great people on the way, and it doesn't matter whether you're from, you know, inner city, Memphis, or you're from the middle of nowhere, Montana. There's nothing like the bond of a locker room and then going out there having to prove yourself. Coach, were you at Tar Heel on October 22nd of 2005? Final score from Penin. Yeah. UNC Shannon, Virginia 5.

Yeah. Oh. Oh, my God, dude. In the SEC history, I would put that down at it. 2005, huh? Yeah. Seven to five. Yeah, I remember that game.

I do. Because you got loaded on defense. We were good on defense. We had a lot of pro-body. I'll grow love the pro body types. We had the pro socks. We had to wear our socks up and all that stuff. So yeah, I remember that game.

Well, another thing is y'all, y'all took Ronald Curry from Virginia. And you know the domino effect that had on our program? Because I guess you want to explain it? It was Ronald Curry. Ronald was committed to Virginia, changed his mind on signing day. And in the process, tech snapped up.

Michael Vic, you heard of him? Yeah. Yeah. You guys didn't get anybody out in the Chesapeake area. No, no. But you also play with Ben Johnson, or was Ben there? Yeah, Ben was on the team. Yeah.

How psyched are you to see his success? He's one of my favorite coaches in the league, and I'm so happy he stayed in Detroit. Talk about Ben a little bit. I know it's not the question you get all the time, but... No, he got upset at me. Somebody asked me, I think it was in the Combine two years ago when he got the job in Detroit. I love Ben. He's one of the smarter guys I've been around.

and a genuine, great person. And he was a couple years younger, and Chris, I don't know what was, you know, with some of the guys who are younger than you, I made a joke and he got all upset because I said he couldn't take a snap. So he was so nervous when he was a young guy in there. But really smart, smart player, obviously he's been done a great job in Detroit. We'll see them week three. Yeah.

But yeah, looking forward to it. But I'm really happy for Ben. So one or two FedEx questions, have you received a fine via FedEx? Because as players, no. It's like when we say, hey, you're getting to FedEx, we know what that means. It's like somebody's coming for your money. Okay, the next question I have is, how long did it take you to realize there was an arrow in the logo? Well, I remember when they rolled out that new marketing plan, when I went from Federal Express to FedEx.

Yeah. Somebody told me that day. So you knew the first day. No, right away. like three months ago. It is funny when people see it for the first time, you know, people that have known for a long time,

that they just realize it. That's a major aha moment. And then the other one is, I hear you have a sister who's a producer, possibly, uh, in, in movies or TV.

And maybe you could shed some light on this, like castaway is one of my favorite movies. I don't know how FedEx people feel about it because of the plane crashing, right? Uh, I gotta sign off on that. What, how did,

how did that come about? How does, Tom Hanks, is he like, hey, I'm thinking I want to do FedEx? And then y'all are like, I don't know. What's happening in the movie? I don't want to butcher the story completely, but I think the basic how that thing started, and we could fact check this all,

so maybe this would be good editing or I just look like a buffoon. We're wizards, man. Either way, I'll tell the story as I know it. So the guy that wrote the script was a guy that had served in Vietnam. and I believe he emailed my dad about the storyline. And I said, you know, basically it's like, sure, as long as you, you know, make it or doesn't make the company look horrible with the, you know, the way that it made the plane crash. So then there's more to it because at the time, Senator Bob Dole was trying to raise money

for the World War II Memorial that's on the National Mall. And, you know, it was kind of slow going. So he asked my dad to help him raise money, you know, from the business leaders around the country to give money. It was the only, I didn't believe at the time, but then you go back and you look at it, there was no memorial for World War II on the National Mall. And so he went around and tried to help Bob Dole raise a lot of money.

And obviously Tom Hanks, that was a passion of his, saving Private Ryan. He obviously did the Pacific, which are both incredible series on HBO. So Tom took the job. My dad and him kind of struck a relationship, and I believe Tom helped him also push the fundraising over the goal line. And then my dad was nervous. There was a scene in there, and he always jokes that it's supposed to be five minutes.

It got cut to about 10 seconds. But he was worried about who they'd cast to play him. So he had a little small cameo. I don't know if he gets any individuals. Oh, that's cool. So that's kind of a lot more to it. And one of the cooler things, and I've gotten the experience a lot in my life, was being there when they dedicated.

that memorial, I believe it was Memorial Day 2004. And a lot of, there was still a lot of the living vets for World War II. And that was a hell of an event. And one of the more powerful things I've witnessed. But yeah, there's a lot of history behind that story. You said you're one of ten. Who's your favorite sibling? That depends on the day.

Yeah, I got the same. No, we're all still really close. We stay in concert communication. A lot of us have got young kids. We're all raising kids. It's comical sometimes, you know, just hearing the stories. How does that work? Because if you have all those siblings,

a certain percentage of them are probably NFL fans. Do they have favorite teams? Like, who was your favorite team growing up? And is it kind of evenly dispersed among the siblings? And then do they have to convert to Falcons fans and Titans fans? Well, at least pretend like they're big falcon fans now, which is good. There's a big contingency that comes most Sundays. And now it's fun because it gives us a, you know, my dad always says it gives a, you know,

it's been a reason for people to, you know, to get back together on Sundays. And that part's been fun. I see them more now than I used to. Yeah. You know, growing up in Memphis, you know, we didn't have a team. I was, it was all about, like, favorite players. Yeah. I did, you know, the ironic thing, I did like the Raiders.

I was a huge Bo Jackson fan. I don't know how you felt Chris. I love Bo Jackson. I met him. I got to hang out with him in my kitchen. I was like a little kid. It was amazing. Yeah, it was awesome.

Yeah. Love the Raiders, man. Yeah, no. But the burning question I have about your time in Tennessee is three head coaches go. You stay. I know what you'll probably say, but how did you survive all things? Three, like, what is it about you, man? You got something going.

An agreeable fellow. Yeah, he's got something about him that he was sticking around in Tennessee through all that. And, like, how hard was that? Was it stressful as hell to see all that change? Because when I was in St. Louis as a player, I went through four head coaches, five head coaches, and, you know, eight years. And I know it can be hard to get your footing. Yeah, a lot of it, like anything in life, all timing and luck.

Yeah. I think a lot of it helped to the position I was in. I got to Tennessee. Mike Muncheck was the head coach, and so thankful I worked for Munch. I was actually on the defensive side when I got hired there as a quality control. I flipped over to offense

and drawing the protections in the run game for Munch taught me a lot. If you ever had a chance to spend any time with him, he's one of the, one of those humble guys I've ever met, another guy that's got a Hall of Fame Busting, Canton, Ohio. You know, Bruce Matthews, was an O-Line coach.

But I probably helped as I was cheap because I was under contract, whatever my title was, assistant tight-in O-Line by the time Wizz came in there. Essentially, he kept me to do a lot of the quality control stuff because it probably wasn't worth getting rid of me to bring somebody ounce in. And so I was able to do that, and Mike Malarkey became his assistant. So the way that whole thing worked out, Mike bumped me up. And so him taking over his interim. certainly benefited me

and I know a lot of credit to Mike and then when Mike Vrable came in his coach in the tight ends he led a couple of his interview and we had a lot of mutual friends and obviously thankful he kept me yeah

Will Compton did he fuck up scout team a lot did he make the look was he in the right gap on the show team well could sabotage the scout team There's guys when you, and it taught me a lot. You know, when you run those show team cards,

you come to really appreciate certain guys. You know, I think it's on full circle. It's part of the reason that we signed Brandon Copeland. And Cope got my first year in Atlanta. I'd always love Cope from his early days in Tennessee, and I always thought he was a smart player. And you never know the relationships, you know, when you cross over with people.

but Compton's got to be in the bottom five of one of the biggest. Scout team sabotage guys. I've been around. And how surprised or not surprised are you that those two have a big successful podcast now? Like, did you see that looking back? You're like, yeah, that makes sense? Yeah, it's certainly unique that they've both hit it as big as they have. I actually remember Will, you know, pitching that.

to Taylor. They were sitting in the cafeteria one day. I just remember him. It had to be sometime in 2018, and I give Will a lot of credit. And maybe, you know, like a lot of people, he's just dumb enough to have that right amount of perseverance to fight. Yeah.

Is there a player on the Falcons right now that you think could have a tremendous podcast? After they're done, no get any ideas. On our roster, Ryan Newsel. Okay. The O-Line had him, I guess his Instagram handle was Newsflash. And so as a rookie, he used to give a news update, never tell him about the O-Line Room. So we started doing that with a team meeting.

He'd give a random newsflash. His delivery, and I'd be one of the better ones I've heard in a long time. I like this guy. App State. Yeah, he's an unique character. He tells a funny story. Maybe we should call him. Anybody's high school highlights?

No, we can, yeah. Ryan Newsles' high school highlights? highlights? Well, he was telling, he was a tight end coming out, and he was at App State, and he's got a unique body type, too. He's about as wide as he is tall, and he's powerful. They say he's one of the better, like, you know, country club athletes where he's got to pick a ball now, tennis and golf. Yeah. Because he is very coordinated, but he kind of looks like at that Barney Rubble look, I guess. I'm seeing him all fresh face in high school right getting interviewed his river high post game highlight yeah we might need to call this guy he

might be a budding star get the news flashed yeah we get a news correspondent down there in Atlanta coach you were there with John Gannon yeah were you guys there together in Tennessee what what makes him what makes him tick and how excited were you see him get that job in Arizona yeah John and I shared an office for two years no way Yeah. So yeah, that's how you survived the first two firings. You were, you were, you had bunkmates in the office. Okay. We did. And, you know, funny story is like if his contract, he and I were both through that whiz and on transition and he kind of left us in limbo. And then Mike Zimmer got that job. And John's contract had run out and mine hadn't. And, you know, John was offered to stay within Minnesota, offered him a job and sent the slip in. So he, you know, he was. left and that's why he didn't stay in Tennessee. But John John's a funny guy, unique personality.

I mean, a lot of people think he has that false enthusiasm. That's who he is every day. He's a little bit of a renaissance guy. He likes football, weightlifting, and then Italian fashion. It's comical. He had me for the overlap. was strong there until Italian fashion. I know. I mean, it's bizarre, but he hasn't changed in that regard, and he's himself, that's for sure.

If you could give any of your friends, I'm sure you have had to do this in the last couple years, but like advice on what's the biggest jump from being a coordinator to being a head coach and like everything you have to manage, what do you think are the biggest challenges? Certainly, I think it helps when you don't skip steps. I think, you know, the experiences I had in every step along the way, I think sometimes people get, you know, guys are getting jobs younger. And I'm certainly, I benefited that, but I don't feel like I skipped any steps. So you have an appreciation how everything works, you know, from the ground level.

And I think going through being a coordinator certainly prepares you for being a head coach, just having the responsibility, being accountable, you know, in those pressure situations. and set up a call sheet and the play call, then getting to be the head coach, I think regardless of age, is the emotional maturity. Because every day there's going to be a new adventure. And the impact you have when you walk in that building, you know, if you let things bother you, you can impact a lot of people's day.

And so I think that emotional intelligence or emotional maturity is paramount, regardless of your age, and that's probably the biggest advice. make sure that you understand that every day is going to be a new journey. And you've got to be prepared for the unexpected. All right. So at this point in the interview, Macon is about to ask the most awkward question of all time.

We mean at this point in the interview? We're inside the interview. Are you serious? Yes. This has never been done before. No, this is the first time. We're incepting the interview. So I just want, maybe should we do it after the question?

I like you hear. I like you know what we're talking about. I like the inception. This is never going to be more. overhyped the the terrible nature of the question. Oh, I think that'll make it all the better. And I say we do it.

Just people at home, do you think he got where Makin was going with this? Because for five to seven seconds, I was like, this interview just went off the rails. Does Arthur Smith understand the question? Yeah, that's all you need to tell us. Okay, back to the interview.

Now, you hadn't skipped any steps. Do you think you get that Atlanta job if your name's not Arthur? I don't think any thing that helped, I guess. You know, it's, so maybe it helped. I don't know what the monetary value was on the contract. Oh, yeah, there's two Arthur's there. You don't see an author.

You don't see a lot of owner and coaches in lockstep. No. Like that. Yeah, my new thing now I'm lobbying for, maybe y'all can help me is if we can win in London, I'm trying to figure out how to get knighted. That'd be cool. And you can have a round table.

I think, you know, so I'll present it to the British media. I fell flat when I brought it up last time we were over there. I'll try again. Let's do it. If you get knighted, we'll come to London. That's great. You have to put Sir. You can't just, tell them all it's Coach, it's Sir.

Yep, Sir. It's pretty obnoxious. That's pretty damn cool. Well, Coach Smith, soon to be Sir Smith. Appreciate the time and hope you come back again, man. Good luck this year. We'll be pulling for you all. I appreciate it, Chris.

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He was like, he's a real, is it not? Hitching Chris on it. So we just pick right up with Nate and Bigfoot. So your hypothesis was, Bigfoot's real. And then you were saying that you think that are people with like reverse alopecia. Like, yes. And there's people in the world that who have that way. But the shack-sized people.

You're saying there's enough shack-sized people. who have reverse alopecia and live in the wilderness. It's kind of think about it like this. It's kind of like Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones, you're watching you're going through all the seasons and then when you see those fucking giants

you're like, you're like, what the hell? Like right or wrong? Right. You're just like, and then you're like, okay, there's probably only one of them and then no, there's just a whole community of them living in the wild.

So why can't that be Bigfoot? You think it's people. That logic. I don't know if it holds. Everybody's out there just like, oh, walking around looking for edible flowers. They don't accept us. They're going to use this as experiments. So if they come near us, we're just going to scare the shit out of them.

No, because if it was people, people would get caught by now and get captured. No. Because they'd get too greedy. They'd try to scare you up too good. And look, the one thing that they're doing now, they try to get integrated with humans, the beef jerky commercials. They're starting. See? I'm telling you, bro, like, hey, we'll give you a little of our culture if you guys leave us the fuck alone.

I was actually thinking about this. AI is going to ruin Bigfoot. Like, AI is, it's over. Like, there's no more like, hey, that could be a credible photo. It was, like, way harder to fake. You'd have to, first, in the 60s, imagine, like, you'd have to make your own Bigfoot suit. Like, there weren't novelty costumes. Damn. So they got to. So if you were to, you know, in the 60s, And then, like, you actually had to take the picture. The whole thing, you know, the famous one of that guy, that old grainy photo in the 70s. Now, just going to be able to...

Bigfoot on the fucking Adobe. I made Bigfoot on Adobe. Okay, give him another conspiracy. Birds aren't real. This is a Dr. Fax segment. Birds in Manhattan aren't real. They're saying birds aren't real. Who's saying that?

Government saying... That's a conspiracy. Yeah. Government conspiracy. Who says that? Who says that? York I believe the birds in New York the most of them they're the cameras and drones you got to pay attention but like like that's the last thing you pay attention to

when you're in Manhattan or and you're in New York City is the pigeons yeah I'm always paying attention to the pigeons those things are the size of fucking chickens dude you know why because people are feeding them oh you think it's because there's a that's what they want you so are they manned yes they're so they're man though yes little people in there throw you off. Trackers. Trackers.

So Peter, Peter McIndo is 23 years old and he started spreading this idea in 2017. He had an article in the New York Times. And McIndo stayed in character, pretended he was a true believer, or said he was a true believer, insisting media interviews and online that birds aren't real. His band says,

surveillance drones. His band says birds charge on power lines. Hey, this guy's on to something Okay, my needle's moving a little bit on this guy I told you, bro. No, but like birds aren't real in all caps, size 72 times they're roaming on the side of my van. He's had a,

they've organized real life protests, he's bought real life billboards that says birds aren't real, and they have a staff. They have multiple people on staff. I'd like to have this guy on the show. We've got to bring in Mac and Doe. Can we have them on the show? Give me a cone.

Have him on the show, and we'll execute a pigeon right in front of them. Dissect it. Just execute him. No way. Explain this. You know that's how Wichico started his, you know, that's how Tyson started his boxing career. No, we're not killing a pigeon. How to respect for Mike Tyson. Yeah.

Seagull, though. I hate Seagulls, dude. Yo, seagulls are scared. No, actually. You got a friend that chases me with bread whenever we're on the beach. We've seen a few, what, offsprays? Ospreys. Yeah, those are kind of scary looking.

I'm not going to lie. and then when I was down in Tampa, I guess those are seagulls, right? Are pelicans? Pelicans are fucking scary. Like, I watched the pelican dive, like in front of me, like, from my hotel, like, and...

Are they real? What's that drone doing, eating a fish? Yeah, exactly. No, no, no, no. You know what I mean? If you're going to be a conspiracy theorist, at least, like, no, I'm out. I'm out on this.

Like, no, no. The charging on the telephone pole, that sounds really cool, though. Birds in New York City are fake. I think that's where the most surveillance that they need. Who's doing it? The Chinese? No, NYPD.

The hell. Well, then why are they running around beating people up too? Wouldn't you just let the birds take care of everything? Not hiding it real well. You're doing all this. They have all the real footage that they can just make it go away. Yeah. You think Area 51 exists where we have made contact with aliens?

Unquestionably. Have alien spaceship. I don't even know. Like, it's not even a question. anymore it's like this shit's real and now they want to everything's a fucking weather balloon or everything's a drone but here's my thing though like why why is it so easy to be like yeah aliens are real but not fucking Bigfoot like think about that well that's a good question give me a second like think

about that like Canada's huge dude oh yeah well they have a lot of woods and for I don't think big foot is I don't think they're chilling me answer that let me answer that more succinctly I think you don't think I think there's, you don't think there's a question of space. Chilling in Montana. You're in Montana all the time. You don't think if you're a big foot that you could comfortably live there and not be bothered with the type of people that are in Montana.

Just think about that. Realistically. Yes or no. I think somebody would find a big foot, dude. And why would there only be two big foots? That's the question I'd pose to you. Why would there be two big foots? No, I'm just saying, what would it?

How do they procreate and pass their lineage down? If there's two big foots in the largest state in the continental U.S., what, do they cover a territory of 5,000 square miles? Because who knows that it might be a big cover-up? Because people probably do hunt them. And then when it gets to the radar, like, hey, I found a big foot. They send in that men and black team, hey, we're not putting this on TV. We're not doing none of that.

We're not raising awareness for reverse alopecia. Telling you, bro. Not today. Telling you. Let's head to the river. courtesy of Appomattox River Company. They've got us covered on the river all summer. It was only a matter of time before Greenlight went down to Farmville to visit Appomattox River Company.

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I had a blast. Took a little dip in the drink. Well, that was Sunday. You took a dip in the drink. But Saturday, tell the folks about our guy at Appomatics. Oh, yeah. Me and Reed,

we took a nice little trip from Charlottesville out to Barnville, Virginia. And we did a good time. in the car. Got a free fucking kayak. This guy comes, dude, the guy comes to the river

and I'd heard he got some free gear at Appomatics River in Farmville. And I was really psyched to hear that Vince was into the podcast. Those guys are awesome. He's the guy who sent his gear

before. He gave you and Nate a son hoodie making out a hat or two. We got about a dozen of those paddle VA shirts. Nate's wearing one right now. And when, when y'all went out there

and Nate, he comes back with this shiny, beautiful old town kayak, it's got all the bells and whistles. Like, I'm looking at boats right now. This would be like the equivalent of getting a yacht. Mind you. I just realized how good of a like brand. And I didn't know that it was like top of the line like kayak brand. It's like a Bentley. Until I got in front of like honestly, until I got in front of you and I really it was John Phillips. It was J.P. When J.P. came and was like, yo, this, this is this is the kayak you got? Knowing knowing how much he does out door stuff. I'm like, oh, this must be

a nice kayak or these guys are just gassing me just to make fun of it. Well, you wrecked the Bentley the first day and this the best part is like we all go out and we did like a 15 mile float. Had a great time on the James and Nate is

like circling my kayak early in the trip going, you got the old model? You need to get you an old town. And like he's shooting a commercial like with me as like a prop and I'm like all right do you ever just you ever just you ever just like just wait 10 minutes okay so this was the flat water Nate was cruising in the flat water so then we get to the the rapids short of Warren and uh I shoot through it in my perception

cut through it like a hot knife through butter and end up down there and I got a front row seat to watch the rest of the gang and I have a feeling that something might happen. So I fire up the old iPhone. And sure enough, Nate comes around the corner. And when I tell you, he took on the Rapids,

like he was a, he basically kamikaze at the Rapids, dude. He went as fast as he fucking could. The paddles were flying, he was not going straight. But he was going as fast as he could. It was like, I got to give him credit for like running to the fight.

Yep. And I'm kind of gym dancing the whole thing. like getting my Kevin Harlan on with JP who's you know Bath County Virginia I'm like you know John how you think this is going to go for him how's this break going to go not good coach and uh as soon as as he says that Nate hits second stretch of rapids and I go this is where he's going to dump and as I say that he fucking dumps you see that everyone out there oh they were hoping on my downfall let me tell you how it feels to be going through rapids the first time this isn't a Ben Rothesberger, Kenny Pickett's situation. You're my competitor. You're dogging my perception.

My perception's got 100,000 miles on it. Guys, listen to this. Me being the only black guy in the group to be about to, to be about to hit these rapids and looking over to your right, you see your group of white friends all standing on a rock with their cameras looking, just waiting or knowing the disaster that is about to happen. No, two of the white guys helped you. But we were a ways away. But imagine that.

Like man drowns on James River. Hate time suspected. Let me tell you, me seeing you guys all over there kind of pre-lapping and getting ready for this, for this fall and this crash, that's why I hit the rapids the way I did. Because I was like, you know what? I'm going to show them I can do this. So I'm just going to rip through it. And like you said, the first set of rapids I got through,

but for whatever reason, when I hit the second set of rapids, luck ran out. No, I like, I looked at something, I feel like, and the drop freaked me out, and it made me, like, try to, like, or maybe it was the fact that you were ripping a big old blunt, which you kept dry, so I got to give it to you there. Like you were, and we, I think we thought up the name. Well, I'll tell you.

Well, first, first, the first, the first, first funniest thing is his bags like he's capsized he can't get back on the kayak and it's it's upside down and he's grabbing for things and I'm seeing his dry bags floating down the river and at that point i say i'm got to go bay watch to get in but but before that point i'm just watching and what i didn't realize was you had dropped a mason jar full of blunts this mason jar right here okay so it disappears It was pre-packed and I had it in the little drink holder in my Bentley in the old town as a drink holder. So when I flipped, there goes the mason jar. No, the mason jar was actually in my chilling room.

But it was very smart. It was attached to a bobbler. It was attached to my chiltern. Which is really smart. Yes. Because this thing goes down the river. Now, fast forward 30 minutes, we go down the river and we find the thing. Reed finds the thing.

So kudos to read with the help of a local angler. Local legend. We didn't catch his name, but he was so named was so bummed about this. We offered him plenty of finder's fees. He turned it down. He was just fishing. But anyway, we saw him come.

Rob pointed him out. He said he came out of the woods, was hanging out down about 100 yards, 200 yards below us hanging out of the rapid. And he was there for a little while. And then he paddled away. We went down after chilling for a bit. And I paddled by this one spot.

and I see his chilling reel just sitting right up on the beach, right with, you know, laid out there perfectly. I go and grab it. Nate is just a static. Even though he had spare backwoods. Yep. He had like backwoods tucked everywhere, dude. But it's hard.

But what I realized, like you've seen, I had spare backwards, but trying to roll a blunt while you're already on the river with the wind blowing, it is very hard. That's why you prepack and you have blunts already rolled. That's where you had this aha moment. We had this aha moment where Nate was like. I wonder how long I could sit out here and like just just on my own and you know with my stuff and could I could I light my blunt like kind of like alone or or naked and afraid and you know he's clutching the backwoods but actually we can call it backwards backwards and it's Nate in the

woods with his backwoods he could bring a friend every time and we could do like sort of a naked afraid with clothes I like that. And then after being there, I'm already on the river for three hours. And me and your friend Rob, we were fishing, like throwing our lines in here and there. Jetboat Joe comes over and honestly, five seconds. Immediately he throws his line in the water and he catches a fish. He was like Jimmy Houston. He literally says, hey, y'all, how you doing?

Tom goes, oh, hey, Joe. And then boom, fish on. threw it and fish on i couldn't believe that so what is it about fishing that kind of makes you fishing i realize now that i'm doing it a little bit more i don't know what you like what i do is fishing but whatever throwing a line out fishing turns you into a hater really like if you're fishing next to someone and someone catches a fish yeah like you're low-key hating maybe it brings out the natural hater in you maybe but it's like it's like because it's hard to be compared it's not hard to be competitive, but it's just like, if I'm fishing anywhere and I've been there for like

an hour or so, and you, and someone comes after you and you chummed up the water and you feel like, oh, the fish are probably in my area now because of me, and they throw a line in and they catch a fish, that doesn't, it doesn't feel good. It's like somebody hitting the slot jackpot after you actually, you're right. It's like when Channing Crowder goes to the bathroom next to somebody. Dude, do you hear his whole deal? Does I look you up and down? He's so funny, dude. I love. I like channing crowder he's so funny he was like i like to look into a man's eyes when i'm pissing next to him you think he would do backwards yeah we should have channing crowder on backwoods bro he would he would crush it you guys would last like six hours no actually he's pretty country

he would he would last so anyways flow was great great weekend yeah appomatics river company has this massive warehouse where we picked out our boats it was great they've got nice rolls royces just like that Nate has and they've got quick perceptions just like you. And wait, I'm going to call a readout on air. Don't try to give the inflatable away after. He did try to pass the inflatable to my wife. I wanted to spread the love because Nate was like, oh, I'll get that one and I'll take the inflatable.

I just want to let everybody get some of this Appomattox River company because making got a hoodie, we've got some hats and hoodies coming for everybody else. What do you say? I'm joking. No, it's not mine. It's for everybody. Go to my house and pick it up. Come get it.

So the float ended, had a great time. I want to thank my wife, my lovely wife for letting me go on Sunday. I mean, I'm floating down the river and I'm just appreciating her. You know, she's got the kids at home walking around pregnant. She's got to come out. I'm upset that you guys didn't let me know the type of float. we were going on. A long one? Yeah. That was on me. That was my fault. You just have to come, come correct, bro. But like, I came correct, but like mentally, like no, actually, no, no,

no, no, no, I didn't because I would have had two more sandwiches. I was getting hungry. Speaking of sandwiches, bro, I got a sandwich from sheets and I am ready. I have always been like this sheets versus a wah-wah thing is totally blown out of proportion. First off, I don't go to the gas station to eat. I understand some people like to go to the gas station to eat, not unless it's like a local gas station with chicken or something good under a fucking heat lamp, which is everywhere in Virginia. In the south, but these people from up north and like north of Virginia, it's like Philly is obsessed with Wawa. I don't go in to eat. Sheets, same thing. People used to drive to sheets after the bar in college. Yeah. Bro, like 30 minutes away in Rutgersville, getting a yellow cab to go to sheets.

I live next to a 7-Eleven, so I just got six of those tequitos and just smoked them. But people are going to sheets, and now they're arguing over sheets and Wawa. And yesterday I had a grubhub order of sheets delivered. I was like, I'm being prepared. I'm ready for this long trip, sorry. And I'm going to grab a barbecue sandwich with pickles from sheets. I hear they got great artisans there. Well, not the case.

That was the ugliest sandwich I've ever seen. There was a little piece of, there's a little meat elbow kind of poking. through the bottom of the sandwich. The pickles were everywhere. The fucking, the, the barbecue sauce was just, it had enveloped the sandwich. And so I just put that thing in the back of the kayak and let it collect water.

It was not pretty when it came out. It was ugly. I gave it to the fish. But the bottom line is, I am team Wawa out of process of elimination. The sandwich I had was not up to standard. And I did a good job of preserving it and keeping it. Until it was time to eat,

I couldn't even eat it. So I'm team Wawa. Yeah, and wait until you have their food. You won't be impressed either. Not to cut off our potential sponsors. No, well, I'm not worried. This isn't about the money. You're going to get the honest take on this podcast.

Corporate instincts. You say you won't be like, you don't like Wawa's food? I do. I think Wawa makes a good thing. Also, also, I don't think we ordered the right thing. Like, you don't get a barbecue sandwich from sheets. You get barbecue sandwiches from Brownsville Market. Yeah, I guess.

You don't go. You go to Wawa, bro, and you make yourself a cheese steak, bro. Okay. You and I are going to get a cheese steak this week. I wanted to, hey, we're going up to Philly. We're going to be in Philly Tuesday and Wednesday, and we're going up to interview some of the Eagles. Eagle dogs.

And we'll talk to some of the Georgia guys. We'll talk to, I got an interview lined up with Kelsey. I'll see Lane, a couple of the Eagles executives, maybe I might get in the RV. and I want to say this, we're taking an RV up because it's hard to get people out of the facility to go to like wherever you are. So we're going to have an RV. It's going to be parked in the Eagles parking lot.

It hit up Dom and I was like, hey, my man, can I call him Paizan? Me and Paizan, he took care of it for your boy. So the RV is going to be up there in the parking lot. I want to say this. I want to get out in front of it. This is not, we're not doing a busing with the boys thing. we're not copying busing with the boys first off ours moves

and this is my family RV and it's we're doing this out in necessity not to rich Eisen my boys is Rich Eisen's always like I'm not coming on the bus so I'll come on the bus when it moves but we've been on the bus we love the bus yo all love to them but like who cares like you know what here's the thing they copied Barstow vand talk so and Barstow van talk copy John Madden and fucking all the people I respect every time I respect getting in front of the narrative. In August, during training camp, how many times was, you know,

Jake Glazer had his bus? So you go on, it's for efficiency's sake. It's right outside the facility. And we'll be up there and we'll do some interviews. And so I got a brand new RV. So this is one of the most excited I've ever been about a fucking purchase. Because, you know, it's not so nice that I feel bad dinging it up. but we're going to log a lot of miles as a family.

It's a Thor. It's like 23, 24 feet. And it's a Class C for use at home. Class C, I don't know how you define that, but it's got like a queen mattress in the back, a, you know, a shower. It's got a bed above the bunk that I sleep in. It fit my whole family.

Wow. Okay, it's got an awning. It's got billet lights on the outside. It's got a TV on the outside. Something out there? Yeah. If you decide to sell it, I mean first up? Yeah, for sure, but I'm probably not going to sell it.

So basically, I'm psyched about having this thing. It's drivable. I don't have to fuck with a trailer because that's some of the most emasculating shit in the world. Like in a pinch, having to hook a trailer up, back up to a trailer. I'm not too bad at it, but I don't like being in front of an audience. You go to a campsite, a bunch of like people who are lifers. They're judging you. You're nervous about that type of stuff?

Oh yeah, major social anxiety. Saturday night, we get to the campsite, awesome little spot. I don't want to give the name of it. It's on a river because I don't want it to be booked up, but it's in Western Virginia, and we pull up there, and there's other campers, and then there's this group of old dudes who are like 60, and they're playing bluegrass down by the river, and they're right below our RV.

So, you know, I got to move the thing three, four times, because I got to hook up to power. I know they're down there like he's starting it again. You know, at one point, the levelers in the back weren't all the way up and they drugged the ground a little bit. And like, we didn't realize it. And I get out and,

you know, these guys are playing music down there. It is a fucking challenge. But owning an RV, you got to get the reps. And, you know, drove it.

I drove it. I'm pretty good driver. But yeah, the bottom line is, like, if you have a family and you want to take your family camping, that first camping trip in the RV is magical. But it's also like,

if I had a schedule and maybe we'll do this as a segment, but like a dad schedule, like the toughest, one of the toughest opponents on the schedule is a family camping trip, where you're the alpha that's got to handle all the fucking, the tech on the RV and the levelers and the slide out. And like, you know, hey, you know, preparing for the trip.

And here's the kicker. And this is when that game gets tough in like the third or fourth quarter, when Wayland starts running a fever and you're two hours from home. and you know we made the mistake and not bringing any Tylenol. And so like I got to drive home now at 10 o'clock with, I got to pack the whole camp up in front of the fucking bluegrass guys. And I got to clumsily back out of that campground and drive all the way home. So it was a really special trip.

RV had a good maiden voyage. Let's make it a good one in Philly. Now I got a wrap under my belt. We'll be, and I feel less pressure with you guys. Like when your family's in the RV, like the time I went to Montana and lost the keys and like my wife's thinking we're going to get eaten by fucking bears and shit. And it's dark and I had to go find a guy who had Starlink to call the woman who I rented the RV from to drive into the wilderness and give me like that stuff you feel like you're fucking up and you're letting everybody down. I'm going to have a lot of fun with you guys.

We're comfortable being idiots together. Yeah, we'll be fun. How many people does it take to get this RV started? We'll find out, but we're going to be in Philly, and we will enjoy every minute of it. We'll get some great interviews, so stay tuned for those. And you'll be wearing your sunglasses in Philly. Yeah, we've been wearing our sunglasses this whole segment, new Oakley's. They're cool.

You look like an outfielder. Yeah. Look cool. I feel like I need to hit a home run this last game if I'm going to wear these glasses. Yeah, you've got to hit a dinger. We're going to be able to block the suns. Shoot. Can we, I want to challenge you.

Home run derby, you and me. Oh, for content. For content. Like a softball home. Yeah, we can do it either. Well, we can't do it after the game, but we'll do like later this week or we do it before the game. Six o'clock game. Yeah, we don't want to tie ourselves out.

No, we will. But like, you don't think so? You don't think we'll tire ourselves out? The bats won't be available, will they? I have a bat. Is it regulation? Yeah, yeah. Same thing.

Okay. Let's do it. Cool. You and me. There was another competition that they had floated. We'll just end with a mail bag here. Which we need like 20 balls. I got plenty of balls.

Well, everybody. I'm a little nervous. Everybody shows. What's on the line? No. What's on the line? I don't know. You guys are just telling me about this right now.

Well, think about it. Let's think about it. Yeah. Okay. Well, I just thought about it last night and remembered. You know, I was like, you're not hitting more home runs than me, bro. Okay. We'll see.

You just like, now you can't take a running start. I'm just joking. Just making fun of your swing. I'm good. I'm ready to beat you, bro. I'm ready to beat you, bro. you. I'm glad, yo. Okay. Mailbag question. Which one of you could smoke more weed if we turned it into some type of competition? So me, I'll beat you in that competition. I don't think there's

anyone. And it has to be the same weed, same strain. No, I don't think, like, I don't think so. Like, and yeah, no, no. If we turn into a competition, no. What are the odds? What are we setting the odds at? Anyone in this office, I don't do not think anyone who's ever stepped foot in this office. That's wild. That's a wild claim. You can't even smoke cups. No, I can. I can. Like, that's what I'm saying. And you can't smoke blunts. I can smoke blunts are easier to smoke than cones. The reason you, you're always like, I can't even talk when I smoke a cone. Now we're on the mic, we're up here at the way ends. If it's a competition, yeah. And I got my mind right and I'm hydrated. So let's do that. I'm ready. Let's do that.

We'll do an Olympics. We'll do a mental and physical Olympics. Okay. We'll smoke five cones in one sitting okay right here and then go do the home run derby well not the home run derby but we can play categories the brains have a good little scrabble competition grabble we'll play scrabble you guys know you guys know trivia scrabble player you are not you have not beat me in scrabble yet and i have money he is good he's good at scrabble look look look he's good that's what everyone says when they get mad play me for money like you can't say i'm not that i'm not good that i'm not good at something when you haven't beaten me in it play me high for money I'll play you high.

Yeah, five cones. Yeah. Representing the five rings of the Olympics. Yeah. Six. Six. He has to bring his rich a car. Oh, no, we can play on a regular board.

We can play on the computer board. Like, whatever. Scrabble. Reflex games. Yeah. Concussion tests. Combine interviews. We just need to find a.

No, we're going to do this. Yeah. We're going to do it next week. Damn, it sucks. You got a week to train. You don't even have a damn Daveham. Busters in town or close. Gotta go Dave and Busters?

No, because I could beat you in any like video, like video games, whatever. That's where we need to go high. We need to go somewhere like there. But we also need to go right here and just see how we're talking. Yeah. How are we doing?

Bro, like, but what type of things are you trying to do? I don't know yet. Okay. But I know, I don't beat you. Huh? What are you setting the odds at? You guys, you guys, I, there's no way there's no way

anyone siding with you. Nate's the favorite, according to Matt, I think. Yeah. I don't know. It's weird. Like, I think Nate has more training. Yeah. But you do have like a weird doggedness about competition. Yeah. Like, I wouldn't put you too low. I'd say Nate minus 120, you plus 100. Okay. This content might not ever come out because you know what's going to happen. Chris might have a panic attack.

Oh, please. Might smoke. Please. Like, what the hell? We're not putting this out. Reed. No, we're going to be. We're going to be fine. We're going to be fine over here. I'm telling you. We're all going to. Would you do it in a time? Like, it's a time. limit right or just who can yeah we know we it's it's we we do the thing over a course

of 30 minutes in smoke yeah like and and and and then when we say hey game starts starts when the whistle goes off the whistle go woo yeah scrabble's like the only I'm trying to think what other games like show because like monopoly is kind of like

no we're not playing monopoly we're going to play categories we'll play scrabble We'll do brain games. What's Scatigory? You got to play that with a team or no? Scattergories, you love it. It's my favorite game. Great fun.

You have to play with a team, though, right? No, you play with yourself. Or you know what? Know what else is a good one? Like, boggle. Don't know boggle. Oh, okay. Okay, but fans, submit, listeners,

submit what should we do during these Olympics? Because it's happening. Okay. And then I need the afternoon. And you have what you call? I have them won too. We'll bring that. We have to take Rips,

to that too. Oh boy yeah sure I love that thing me too yeah I love that thing so so so maybe that's our half time okay that sounds good yeah so we go pre you know warm up is the the five and then and then half we do a student glass yeah all right you're higher right now no I'm not I've been telling you pass me cones for half 30 minutes oh sorry here you go feel like Reed yesterday go ahead asking Reed for beers

Reed took 45 minutes to give his friend of beer I can beat you there though I can beat you the mushroom Olympics yeah definitely not yo Matt stop egging on

saying what he's been balanced he sounds fun have you seen me ripped through a fucking rapid with on the booms you can't

I'm very capable on those things. Keep the shit together. I'm very capable. That's a good thing to hear because you know you're always thinking, does everybody think of them? I'm taking shrooms multiple times coming here.

You guys don't know if I'm trying. Yeah, okay. Like so. So that's the point. So I'm on mushrooms right now. Just joking. Yo, you're so funny. Which would you rather have surgically removed?

Your balls or the fingers on your left hand? This is easy. Yeah. All right, Nate, you go first. I'm going to turn into one of those oil things that just... I'm sorry to do this, but no fingers in my left hand, I still can manage. Oh, really? I could still...

You're getting castrated? Fuck yeah. What the... What do I need my balls for anymore? Actually. Actually. Bro, I'm on my big band victory tour. My little song, it's over.

No, we're in different stages of life. That's one type of cancer, gone. Okay? Also, like, I can play any position in softball. I can play fearlessly. I'll just be out there like, huh, hit me. Nah, you know why also?

I probably shouldn't say this. What? There's too much. Think about when you accidentally sit on your balls and you're like, ah, fuck. Oh, well, you still have your dick, right? You'll be like the dudes from, um, that was protecting, um,

the dragon The Game of Thrones Yeah Grey Worm had a great time Oh He pulled Misan What was her name? Misanai

Misanai He pulled Misanai With no Ghiblets Yeah I did wonder about that Like no giblets Yeah at his hand You don't have your hand

Have fun dude But But Jamie Landerster How you can roll a blunt With no left hand Jamie Landerster didn't have a whole hand for half to think about that he had balls and he had balls think about that

it was kind of his his situation i think it was a little better than gray worms yeah because us because he was still a great fighter with that one hand he figured it out he pulled checks he pulled a lot he pulled his sister which is crazy yeah but you know you almost get a hall pass respect but yeah no i don't think i'm getting my no bro no way i'm getting my nuts cut off no i'm getting my nuts kind of off. I'm sorry. I would sit easy in the kayak. You're a sicko, yeah. You're a sick of. What's the shame and not having any balls? Just a figure of speech. You know? Yeah. No. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. Is there a more poverty franchise than the Green Bay Packers right now? Oh, man. Yeah, because I, I looked at their rookie, the,

In that video with the Stetson Bennett drinking a coffee, it's all the rookies like at their, the rookie media day. Yep. By the way, some I'm wearing pants, some of them not, some wearing shorts,

like I know the guys in pants were super fucking annoyed. Because, you know, when they make you dress up for picture day, it's like a big production. Oh, yeah. But anyways,

they pan to the right, and there's this kid who I have no idea who he is, wearing number eight, and he's got a Green Bay jersey on, and I'm like, there is zero magic. in that brand right now. Yeah.

Like it just goes to show you how important quarterbacks are with how we associate like the brand power of a team. Like what kind of prime time games are they going to have this year? All of a sudden you're a team that a bunch of guys in Orange Camo own. Like you don't even have an owner. You know, you're fucking, the market is one of the smallest in the NFL. Be smallest. No disrespect because I think like the Packers,

You know, Scotty Trill, I just want to tell you, like, you know when you say no disrespect. I mean disrespect. No, it just means like, hey, sensitive people, hey, ears open. Because I'm telling you, like, I have great respect for what the Packers have done, and I love charter franchises. But it's going to be a tough stretch unless this kid's pretty good. Poverty franchise, I wouldn't, I can't say that they're the most poverty franchise, can I? The Oakland A's?

Well, they're going to Vegas. They're about to be stacked. I know. but the Oakland A's haven't met their Sugar Daddy yet. Yeah. You know, this is Richard Gear hasn't, you know. It's like Washington Wizards is a poverty franchise. The Wizards.

The Wizards. Underratedly awful for a long time. The A's playing a stadium that's made out of concrete. No one's there. At any moment, a chasm in the earth could open up, and there could be a giant earthquake. Right. It's like 2,000 people are at these games.

When I was in Jacksonville, that's how it was. That was before they got shot Khan. Yeah. Yeah, it was pretty bad. Before the pool. How bad was it? But I think the pool, like, it was pretty bad. The pool's kind of poverty franchise.

Yeah. You know, like, it's a little. I mean, it's like, yeah, it's like, yeah, it's endearing. It's endearing, though. I love it. No, it's not, being honest, like, yeah, I'd have a pool with a state. I'd have a pool in my stadium if I was, like, playing. If you're in Florida to a, it gets hot as shit.

It's just something that sounds fun. Yeah. It's a fun accessory. Jacksonville, I don't know, man. In the NFL? Colts? No. No, don't say that.

By the way, it reminded me a Jim Resei who plays music. I saw a video. Howie, my brother, was at a Santana concert. Nice. And Mark Davis is up there playing the drums. You know the drums that have the little balls on the end, the sticks. He's up there wailing away, dude. He was playing with Santana.

Mark Davis. Yeah. He's about to have an infusion of cash. Looks like Brady's going to be a part owner of the Raider. Yeah, it's true. Or crypto. Infusion of crypto. All right.

So, yeah, I don't know. Tell us what you think. Green Bay, are they there? Are they in that category? Fortunately, I think so. All right. Has anybody ever pranked you real bad and were you ever close to fighting because of a prank?

Yeah. David of Viborah. who's a good friend and it's a friend of the program as well. We're rookies, we were boys in St. Louis. And, you know, one night, I had Meg out there, me and Megger, you know, dating at the time. And she's living with me. And, you know, it's like Friday night. She's trying to sleep.

She's working. All of a sudden I get a call and it's David. He's outside. He's like, dude, can I come up for a second? I'm like, yeah, no problem. Whatever. Playing video games. He comes up.

I'm really stone and he walks in and he's got two chicks with him and you know like he's immediately I'm thinking like girls voices she's upstairs like this is not good yeah I'm like Dave what are you doing here he's drunk he's on the way to like whatever a party or something and he's like I brought you a present and he has me a pinata and I'm like man I'm really stone really are we doing this he's like I wish you opening up there's something cool inside and uh he he's he he has me proceed to put a blindfold on and try to beat the pinata up in front of these girls. And it takes me like 10 minutes. I finally open it up.

And inside is a bunch of like trash. And it was like trash that rolled all over the ground. This is it. And he's like, open up your eyes. And I open my eyes. and I'm like, now I want to kill you. And he's laughing. And the gals who I don't know are like,

ha ha, ha. And I said, get the fuck out of my apartment. And then I went back to playing video games. I forgot to clean up trash. In the morning, I got an airful. And who the fuck was downstairs? So, yeah, thanks, Dave. That pissed me off.

Oh, my God. And up on the screen, they have, Yeah, this is one of my favorite all the time. In 1992, Joe Carter played for the Blue Jays. Took this rookie's Jeep onto the field, and they announced that, like, somebody in the crowd and won his Jeep. That's his face.

Derek Dahlstein is Jeep being driven onto the field. Also, just seeing such a, like, a nondescript sport utility vehicle be some rookie got, like, he painted it. Look at how ugly the cars were that guys got back in the day, like, on their rookie deals. He's in disbelief He's like, hell no The best prank ever He's in disbelief

Great dude That's terrible to do before a game Because it's just like That'll take my like That'll take Like your heart Your stomach dropping From seeing that

And being like Yo this has to be a joke But then If you're not a joke in person It's just like Yo why y'all fucking with my car Like why y'all fucking with my new car You've seen fights in locker rooms

Happen over pranks probably Yeah like I'm trying to I've seen guys get really mad over stuff. I'm trying to think what I see like at the end of the day. It's not really pranks. It's like bullying. It's video game. Oh, video games.

It's video games. And actually, when we were in the Bears, we had a stupid game called Box them up, and that used to start fights. And what Box them up was, was at any moment, if you're walking in the locker room, you had to basically be walking like this. so that someone unexpectedly they would take a big box and try to slam it over your head. What a stupid game. Then when it happened, like when everyone would see it and they would yell, box them up. Do we have any boxes?

But the key is, it's like, it used to be like offense versus defense, but the key is, if you see it coming, you'll be like, watch out, watch out, watch out. And if you do this, then your hands would protect you from getting, what you're going. Reed just dumped out a box full electronics. We're ready to play this game. Dude, when we were on the bears. Oh, the weed mason jar. He did it yesterday.

He got Nate's weed wet. I'm going to get you before the end of this show. So you need a bigger box. That'll definitely start a fight. That's doing so. Cut somebody in the side of their head. Yeah. We had a, we had a game called Smack Cam, basically, that if somebody was walking around wearing issued gear, like anywhere in public at the facility, you were allowed to know. It wasn't a smack. We would, it was a handful of whipped cream. And it was just to the face. It was shaving cream, shaving cream. You ever do it to somebody? Yeah, we did it to people. And I had it happen to me when I was sitting doing a live hit like 7 a.m. So like they'll,

hit you up after a practice and be like, yo, can you come in early tomorrow? NFL network wants to talk to you. I'm really sorry to hit you because like, I know you don't like waking up early, but James said no and blah, blah, blah. So I said, yeah, I'll do it. So I came in because I had treatment

and I'm up there at seven in the morning and getting interviewed on a fucking live feed and Cortland Finnegan comes in like Spider-Man out of the back and just pies me in the face. And I'm on fucking national TV and it looks like brazzers. dude. Oh, there it is.

Oh, my. Yeah, look, see, look at him with a little skip. He just, look at him. He just skips in, like a little leprechaun. Fucking ruins.

Did you ever get him back for that? Well, I was doing an interview. I thought it was, no, I definitely got him back. You can get him back now during the interview.

He'll find out when he's doing the interview. But he, he's got to be wearing fucking issued gear. Oh. Which he doesn't do. So,

anyways, we had that game. You know, we used to, I've talked about pranks on here. We used to, Man, we, we, we, I built the houses around guys' cars. You heard about that one, right, Nate.

And then Kyle, when he was in Chicago, now he got kind of mad about this. They put a tarantula in his bed. Him and John Bostic. And still nobody to this day will admit who it was, and I think it was Peanut Tillman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But him and John Bostic, I remember, but they put the, they put the spider in Kyle's room. Like, I think he in his bed. But John Bostic, they put it in his toilet tree bed.

and the tarantula stayed in there the entire night. So when he woke up at four or five in the morning, he said it jumped, tarantial's jump. He said it jumped out of the bag. God, dude. Imagine he had slipped and just, like, broke his arm in the bathroom. Some things aren't pranks.

Some guys would do pranks, and like a prank would be, oh, I pranked him earlier today, and I'd be like, what did you do? And he's like, oh, I took all his clothes and, and froze them or I dumped all his clothes in the hot tub or I fucking, that's not a prank,

that's just me. I'm not going to lie. They did that to JPP when I was on Giants. We were rookies. JPP wasn't necessarily a good rookie whenever they wanted him to sing or do certain stuff. He wasn't really compliant

with a lot of like the rookie expectations. But I remember one day before an away game. traveling they put his travel suit stop in the cold tub yeah well that that's the classic and it was just like that's like a fuck you like and it was just like I everyone like the people who weren't a part of it like whether you were a rookie or not like you kind of felt bad because it's just like certain things you know everyone has their pushing point and you can

tell when someone's hit their pushing point and it's just like I don't give a fuck if I don't sing like y'all not gonna take this suit that I just bought for whatever amount of money and put it in the fucking coal tub I should prank making because he doesn't listen to the podcast he's proud of that i should prank the fuck out of him what should I do I used to want to get like a big sharper image like big foot statue no with sky mall and like put it in his yard or like you should take the real estate exam and then pass it and then get a massive billboard and then like start challenging him for listings. Oh, that's great. Oh, that is great. How do I get my real estate license? You got to do a lot. I'm sure it's like a day. Ormilla Soprano got it. You're good. It's not a day. I took it before.

You did it? I did the classes and I didn't take the what you call it though. Oh, well, I'm going to do it. You have time to take, um, after you take all the classes, you have time to take the actual test. Okay, look for me on the side of the road. All right, well, that's good. Everybody have a great week. We'll be in Philly eating cheese steaks and catching up with friends. Stay tuned for later this week. We'll find you a good guest.