Green Light with Chris Long - Baker Mayfield & Patrick Mahomes Dominate + Seahawks Roll Jaguars | NFL WK6 Reactions

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

NFL Week 6 action IS IN THE BOOKS! A wild slate of football action, highlighted by the Sunday Night Football matchup between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Detroit Lions. The Chiefs seem to be all the way back, at least on offense, with Patrick Mahomes commanding one great drive after another to move past Dan Campbell and the Lions. It was not without incident though, as the game ended with a Brian Branch and JuJu Smith-Schuster dust up in the middle of the field. In other parts of the country, Baker Mayfield continued his superhero ways for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, leading them to a victory of the short-handed San Francisco 49ers. The Seattle Seahawks get back on track with a solid defensive performance and another explosive performance from Jaxon Smith-Njigba. And the rest of the slate was wild, absolutely wild football. (00:00:00) - Intro: WK6 Reactions (00:13:43) - Kansas City Chiefs vs Detroit Lions (00:37:30) - Denver Broncos vs New York Jets (00:52:05) - Seattle Seahawks vs Jacksonville Jaguars (01:06:10) - San Francisco vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers (01:25:22) - LA Chargers vs Miami Dolphins (01:35:17) - Carolina Panthers vs Dallas Cowboys (01:42:15) - Arizona Cardinals vs Indianapolis Colts (01:52:05) - LA Rams vs Baltimore Ravens (01:56:20) - Pittsburgh Steelers vs Cleveland Browns (02:05:35) - Green Bay Packers vs Cincinnati Bengals (02:01:20) - New England Patriots vs New Orleans Saints (02:31:20) - Las Vegas Raiders vs Tennessee Titans (02:35:45) - Green Light Phone Line (02:44:50) - BetMGM Moments (03:10:20) - MNF Previews Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Also, check out our paddling partners at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Appomattox River Company ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. Green Light's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, where you can catch all the latest GL action: Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Chiefs are going to be scary. And now it's not a future thing. It's a right now thing. Duwan Jennings, to me, that's a football player. You got to feel like you're about to go get right when you're going into Carolina. Not anymore. Yeah, more. The bucks to me have looked as good as anybody with pieces missing out there.

Dude. Seattle and Jacksonville was a great football game. Or not, it was supposed to be a great football game. What's up, y'all? Yeah. Hello Hey You know what I look like last night

After all that All that bad football Finally we had a good game Late at night last night You know what I looked like in the fourth quarter Of that game? Tom Moore Seriously

Did you see that picture When they zoomed in on Tom Moore yesterday? Yeah That's what I looked like At the end of the Chiefs Lions game I'm here with Tony was like How fucking old is he

And Jim was like He's an octogenarian. He's not helping. It's not helping. I have no idea what that is. Guess who's back? Jamal Dean. Oh, my God.

There's Tom Moore. Unreal. Pull him up. God bless him, dude. Tom Moore was born in 1938. Yeah, dude. He's still in NFL side lines. That's incredible.

I got to look through all my coaches and teams I play for. I don't know why I feel like I played on a team. He was maybe. You probably did cross her with Tom Moore. Look it up. Somebody see if Nate was with Tom Moore. He recognizes him. Him and Vita have a bromance in Tampa.

That's absolutely hilarious. Vita puts him on his like social media all the time. And Tom Moore has no idea what it is. You know? He's just like, what are you doing, Vita? Get me off on your screen. It's so funny. Snap face.

He's calling it snap face. No, I, um, a conversation, just being able to like ultimate fly on the wall. was Ernie Adams and Tom Moore just trying to talk, just talking ball. Trying to talk. They would just go. Yeah, they would go. But who do you think, like, it would be incredible to find out who is forgotten.

Because you know the adage, like, this guy's forgotten. Forgot more football. Yeah, yeah, right, right. Well, who knows more ball? Yeah. How old is, yeah, Tom's got him by at least a decade, I'd say. Yeah. But, but.

A real life for in the business. That's a decision to be like, I'm going to coach football forever. I'm sure. and I think we've talked about this with Tom Moore before. He's probably got a wonderful family and, like, you know, grandkids and the whole thing. But, like, you're definitely picking football. Oh, yeah. You're just like, you know, fuck all the other stuff.

I like being here doing this. All right. I like being here and doing this as well. That was an ugly, ugly slate. The Sunday night football game saved the slate. I'm here with Dr. Fax. I got Nolan. I got Cowboy Reed.

I got Bo Sevis on the Zoom And I got Tanner back there Behind the machines That's this that time of year though The what time of year The Mercury is in Gatorade This is when This is when everything gets crazy in the world

I feel like that's why we got bad football Why do you say Gatorade I mean It's really like the Mercury is in retrograde That's what you like saying Gatorade Yeah That's what he said on the show when time Okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I felt like I heard this before. It hits better. It hits way better. It hits a little bit. Mercury's and Gatorade. Hell, yeah. You see all the, this is when all the crazy stuff happened.

We're waking up to people hearing that people are retiring. Dude, that is nuts. I feel like we always have injuries in the NFL, but like I feel like this year, it's like, is it, I don't know if it's technically up the numbers, but it just feels like it's a lot. Dude, it feels like it's a lot. We've got a couple of early retirements. I guess we can just. really quick start to show off with this. I was going to wait until later because we're going to get Sunday night football in a second.

But I broke the news to Eagles fan Nolan Mert earlier today. We were sitting there looking at our respective games. And I said, hey, I just want to read this post from Zadaria Smith. I knew this day would come. And in case you're living under a rock, you're about to get broken some news. Zadaria Smith, I knew this day would come. But now that it's here, I'm feeling so many emotions. I had never expected.

Who would have thought that a kid from Greenville, Alabama, with just one year of high school football experience, would go on. That explains a lot, dude. Anybody that plays, like, one year high school football and then goes to college to play football is, like, destined to be great at football. It's just a rule. No bad habits.

Would go on to play professional football in the NFL for 11 incredible years. This game has given me the opportunity to meet great coaches, compete alongside some of the best players ever, and represent some of the greatest organizations in the league. football has transformed my life and my family's lives forever and for that i'm forever grateful this career is taking me across the world from earning my first passport stamp to visit countries i only saw on maps to helping me start a foundation gives back to my community uh there's a i mean it's a lot longer than that and it's really well written and i like the use of paragraphs indentation

the whole thing like honestly a lot of guys just you know they say fuck grammar it's one sentence and yeah well yeah this dude i mean one of my favorite players of my post playing career watching Zadaria Smith. You know, he was, he will, and we'll get to maybe like what it means. But I loved him as an edge rusher. I loved him as a floater. He would float around, pick, pick a guard to pick on. Like, he was a power player.

He could get on your edge, the whole thing, disrupt in the run game. Just a total stud. Love the celebration. He was a very original, unique player. and underrated, in my opinion, very underrated. Got to go to the Pro Bowl a couple times of his career, but very underrated. And it didn't work out in Philly. I don't know what it is.

I suspect he probably just lost the love for the game. He's playing well. I mean, on a win-rate basis, currently the Eagles' second best pass rusher, second most productive pass-rusher. Now, if we wanted to be salacious, we would say, God, you know, I tweeted earlier to be like, I don't know what's going on up there because that's not usually a good thing

when somebody's, like, randomly retiring. that's not me trying to like stir shit up i'm not gonna i'm not gonna take it any further than than uh than just saying hey congratulations on a great career to zara smith the new thing is retiring during the season that really wasn't as much of a thing when i played that's a that's a that's a new like that's an obvious red flag right what to retire during the season like red flag for the team for all parties involved like meaning red flag after a day night game exactly Yeah, like red flag. I had to come in on Monday and Zee was like, ah, fuck this.

Yeah. Well, maybe he didn't love it anymore. For many years, coaches said, hey, if you don't love it. And that's what I mean. And then players started listening. Since when do we listen to that, though? Well, since lately, no, you know, so I'm not, listen, on the day, one of my favorite players retires, I'm not going to, I'm not going to do the thing where I say, hey, like, you know,

stick it out to the end of the season. Like, it's just a different league than it was. and um okay what no i was just saying before before we move on i said i was trolling a few eagles fans this weekend and i said this is the week that the implosion starts in that locker room it starts and this is the first step i think well no comment because i'm gonna i'm gonna let no like i'm gonna let the i'm gonna let whatever happens on the field you know i'm gonna let whatever happens on the field kind of play out and and then we'll make our determinations off of that i'm a little too close the product to, you know, to tell you how I feel about the situation.

You know what I'm saying? Like, we'll see what happens. They've got a really big test this weekend against the Vikings. Eagles didn't even play. Found a way to garner some headlines this morning. We're going to move right along. I can't win with the fucking Eagles. Big Z are welcome back anytime.

Yeah, dude. Next week, maybe you need a week off. That's fine. Yeah. Come back next week. Yeah. Get your head right. See you next Wednesday.

Yeah, exactly. but honestly not a great sign so especially because you know you are thin at edge rusher and this is a statement oh my gosh we're just quickly and statement from a president of football operations chad brinker chad 7580 words to say we just fired the coach i'm not going to read that whole thing t l d r brian callahan got fired And I hate to hear that because we really enjoyed our visit to Tennessee. And I think, you know, Brian's a good dude, at least from sitting down with him. And maybe a little bit in over his head.

Not the first time that's happened in the NFL. But, you know, Tennessee's not going to fuck around with this thing. They got a rookie quarterback that they think is very good, although half the world right now thinks he's trash because they're looking at box scores or they're looking at Aaron throws. and this guy's been sacked at an alarmingly high rate. He doesn't have a lot of weapons outside. I think we knew that coming in this season and just not good.

If you're a coach and you just got fired mid-season and you probably won't get like another job to next year, you're just chilling, you just going to taking a big trip. Bro, I'm smoking pot all day and playing Madden. Like all day, dude. And I'm going to be busting people's asses on Madden and just rubbing their face in it. You know, like,

didn't Cliff Kingsbury go to like Thailand or something like that? Yeah. Yeah. Peter Schroger was like, he's in Thailand. I just heard from him. With buyouts and he's getting paid not to work, you know? Yeah, exactly. That's probably where James Franklin's gone, right?

To Thailand, you think? 49 million can get you a long way in Thailand. I think from knowing a little bit about James Franklin, there's not a lot of room in his life for anything but football. So I don't think he's the type of guy that's like, yeah, let me get away and go to Thailand. yeah seriously i mean that as a compliment to him um all ball that guy's all ball but um so anyways we we we had a it was a shitty slate of games and again a reminder that the NFL is king because

uh that had everybody sitting like you know like half of america didn't get up yesterday you've got international game in the morning you know 13 hours dudes are getting hemorrhoids sitting there fucking all day watching National Football League, wire-to-wire coverage, 9.30 a.m. to midnight, basically. They have subtly moved in on us, like on our Sunday, our Sunday.

And I don't mind it. I'm like... When you got time for morning service anymore? You used to be able to go to the morning service. I thought it was faith family football. Right? Like the 8 o'clock, you could at least go to the 8 o'clock service

and get your church in. Dr. Facts. And be home by noon to get all the football. They just brought the Sunday service in the multi-view. that's a great point i was going to say that's why you can stream on your phone you bring your phone to you're sitting in the pew and that's a great call bow you got four screens for a reason product coming out soon slow down roger goddell he is i mean they're taking over um and you know like this feels like this is what the future of viewing football is going to be like all because they're

doing the international thing nonstop and when i was a player i hated it but now as a fan i'm like you know what love it love it because the more standalone games, the better. Stand-alone games allow you to actually watch the game, like 100%, and not have to go back and re-watch it. Like, you know, the way we cover the league, we got to watch four at once or two at once. Or, you know, and then you go back and re-watch, and like, I only need to, thankfully, watch Jets, Broncos one fucking pot.

So, or Brown's Vikings last week. But there's a good one next week in London. It's the Rams and the Jacks. So anyways, man. Kevin Kernick in the chat. What's next? A non-English halftime show? What are we?

We're attacking the churches. Don't do this. Don't do this right now. Oh, man. Kevin Kernick in the chat called 930 to 1030, you know, an all-day football watching, couched, not cooked, but couch. Couch, man. That's what we all are, dude.

You call. And, you know, the faith family football, man. my kids barely see him last night i did the live show they come up dad can we come up they're sitting up there and i do the live show uh sunday night so check that out if if you don't know about it and you you want to watch but um you know waylon and luke are supposed to sit on the couch and i'm i'm over here like talking to the and i i have ADHD so it's hard to focus and uh all the sudden i hear like swish wish wish wish and i'm like what the fuck is going on i look over and my six-year-old's doing the floss dance, which I can't even do with my hands right now.

But he's just staring at me doing the floss dance. And I'm trying to break down the Jags game. And I'm like, I had to like break character and be like, hey, you can go back with mom now. So my kids, they don't even get to see me anymore because of these international games. All right, let's start with the Sunday night game, shall we? I'll just say this. It became apparent to me early in this game. And the injuries matter. Lions fans, I will give you that. I'll you know, I bust y'all's balls a lot. But when I told you I gave out the Chiefs, the injuries were at least part of the reason I gave out the Chiefs. And, you know, I haven't gotten a Lions game wrong yet this year. So take it up with management. But I gave out the Chiefs because of the

injuries in the secondary to the Lions. I think the Lions, this is a really quality win for the Chiefs because of who they beat, in my opinion. The Lions, and I said this last night, I think the three teams that are playing the best right now in the NFC, because I left one out, I think it's the Bucks, I think it's the Lions, and I think it's the Seahawks. Those three teams in this little small window right now

are playing the best. That could change, it ebbs and flows all year. So this is a really, really big win for the Lions, and it became apparent to me on that first drive, that it was all about time of possession, keeping the ball out of Patrick Mahomes's hands. It's a beautiful drive, obviously ends at the goal line, but it was gonna be about Red Zone.

It was gonna be about money downs, and I thought the two biggest moments in the game were obviously Detroit on the illegal motion, which was discussed after the play. We can get to that in a second. And the fourth and two where St. Brown drops the ball. Because at that point in the game, you're 10-6, you've got the football, you can go up 17,

or Kansas City can take the ball back and go two for one, which they did. And there were a lot of moments in between those moments, but those two moments to me were huge because they kind of defined the game and the way it was played. And Kansas City jumping on an opportunity for situational football and getting that score before the half and then coming out of the half and getting points. It felt like the Amman Ross St. Brown drop just from that point forward, them being able to go two for one there and the lines not seeing the ball again before half was uh it put them really behind like you said that wasn't a game script the lions wanted falling behind 10 um even though they came out

and were able to put together a scoring drive in the second half um on the heels of that the lines needed to stop defensively that couldn't get it um then they go three and out and they're back and looking at that 10 point um advantage of the chiefs again so um i think the the lines like we've seen them come from behind. We've seen them win in the drop back passing game. It was more about the chief's offense in this game, being rolling and being able to just maintain that commanding lead all the way through the game and be productive all four quarters. We've said this over and over again. The chiefs are going to be scary. And now it's not a future thing. It's a right now thing. So like, you know, board up the windows and, you know, batting down the hatches because this offense is going

to look as good as looks since fucking like 2018 yeah um because rishy rice to come back this week we talked about the effect that worthy has on the run game on the screen game on stretching the field vertically horizontally and uh you know they they found guys like thornton along the way you know through the through the the growing pains and so you know i think uh even with simmons out last night that was one big injury that came up late it would an injury he was in california on a personal issue, which obviously our thoughts are with him and his family or whatever's going on because that's never a good thing when all of a sudden on a Sunday, you hear the guy's not even in town. He's back in California dealing with something.

But to be down that tackle against, you know, just a total stud in Hutchinson who, you know, like the godfather of offense, I don't know why you would ever leave Noah Gray on him. And somebody was like, well, that kind of, that was on Patrick. and then Bill Barnwell tweeted, which I love was like, Noah Gray was moving eight and a half miles per hour backwards. Next Gen stats figured that out that like he was, he was, he was, you know, he wasn't speeding in a school zone, but he was, he was moving towards Patrick at an alarming rate.

That's what happens when you leave a tight end on a guy like that. And, you know, I don't love booting into Hutchinson, but generally I thought the game plan was great. And for Kelvin Shepard, I thought keeping the points down through a lot of game and just giving your team a chance, he's not going to get the credit because they don't come up with the win. But like there were a lot of guys down last night. And they found a way to be competitive. So that lion's grit is always there.

And there were moments where like it looked like hell defending Jared Gough on that second drive. Like the protection was great. And one of the themes that's going to come out of this game is, where's the pass rush for the chiefs eventually you get there on fourth and two dana and jones win but he was ripping digs like it's his fucking job because it is and he throws that ball as good as anybody in the game the one to la porta the one to jamo yeah you know if you give them the time to do that they're dangerous and there was a moment before that that fourth and two where i said golly they can't stop the run either remember gibbs got lost in the crowd yeah this is a game that could easily go either way yep

But the Chief's offense is just in too good a shape, and Spag has eventually got a few stops. Yeah, and specific to this matchup, you mentioned Shepard having his work cut out for him. They were in base personnel over 76% of the time last night. That's a really tough place to live because of those corner injuries, and that's a really tough place to live against this Chief's offense because what they do, you know, even before getting, you know, rice back presumably this week, they have so many guys who can create after the catch and they force you to tackle in space. And even when those plays aren't there early in the down,

now you're looking at a scramble drill situation where it's tough on the communication. It's even worse. And it's, I mean, nobody can cover. No, I'm really, I'm really impressed with Jack Campbell and Chanel. Those two guys, both. Those two big athletic guys, old bes, dude.

Chanel, do you see a shemaw on Amin Rosset and Brown on like, absolutely in the flat? Yeah, second and eight early in the game. That's how I was like, yeah, I'm in around might be a little dinged up.

You know what I mean? He didn't quite seem like himself between the drop and then I think he's dealing with a little bit of an ankle injury. But anyway, Leo Chanel is a dog. And he's actually, I think those two players, Jack Campbell and Leo, like pretty good comparison there between the two of them as far as like size, physicality and kind of like, you know, what they bring in the table defensively. I thought I actually had like Leo, he played phenomenal, man. And I was surprised that the lions didn't try to just mash. the ball a little bit more offensively. I thought that they would. I mean, they damn near a rush for 100 yards, but it just seemed like that was going to be maybe a little more of an emphasis for them going into it.

And I was surprised. Now, some of that is just kind of because of how the game went. But it just felt like that identity was missing a little bit for them from me. Yeah. And if the game played out differently, I think they might have been able to run the 150 in that game. I mean, Kansas City. quiet has kept the defense is a little bit of an issue.

You know, the pass rush is just not like outside. And Dana had a great rush. I mentioned that on fourth and two. Omenah who eventually got home, but like when skippers out there at tackle, and God bless him, dude, because he did a great job with just, you know, hey, keep your big body in the way.

You know, just don't get beat fast. And, you know, if you get beat, get run over, make it slow. And that's eventually what happened to him. But I thought, you know, I thought, you know, the guys inside, for the most part, held up okay against Chris Jones. He got Ratledge on some up and unders. And obviously with the game in the biggest spots, you expect Chris Jones to make those plays. So it was a redeeming game for Chris Jones just to make the big plays in the big spots.

But it wasn't like, you know, it wasn't like he just took the game over. This game was a game that was on a razor's edge for a while. and it was going to be like in every possession counts game. And in a game like that, and golf was fucking amazing, and he is an amazing thrower of the football. But like Mahomes just gives you so much from a mobility standpoint in a game where there's going to be like possessions are at a premium. And so when you've got it, it's fourth down, it's fourth and two,

we're going because we're afraid of the lion's offense and we can't just punt the ball back to them. That type of game, when you have a quarterback that can go sprint right option, that can get you out of trouble that can scramble i mean we saw some instances last night where you're like oh that's vintage mohomes and right and what makes especially against uh he's especially dangerous against the base like you were talking about uh no one you know what i mean because like those dudes they the chiefs it feels like they just got an influx of speed recently obviously with worthy and you know rice coming back that's a bad matchup with mahomes on the edge

and then dude i'm always surprised by his speed but i'm always surprised by his physicality as a runner That sounds like a joke or like me being tongue in cheek, but it's not. You saw Collins were salivating over that hit that he took. And he's like, oh, here's a guy you can do it with his feet and then almost get a first down. He's still like three yards short. But like he took a couple shots on that run. And I'm just always surprised by his like toughness and athleticism out of the pocket, man. He got a weird style of running.

We all kind of know that. But like he really is effective. Dude, as soon as he did that last night and there's so many instances of this where could he run over Mustafa at the goal line like last year in the San Francisco? go game you know like what he does on the sideline is not a barometer on how tough the guy is i get real tired of like people who don't play contact sports never have you know calling him a bitch or what have you because on the sideline he plays a game okay that's some gamesmanship i don't love it as a defensive lineman we try to tattoo you on the sideline and then you know we'll pick up the pieces later and figure it out but like in the middle of the field the guy turns into like

I don't know a guy with a leather football helmet on seriously looking like him tibah out there at time no I mean one thing you can't say about this guy is he's soft and I know that you know the whole country wants to hate my homes and and you know call him names but that dude's tough and when you do shit like that it really earns the respect to your teammates and you know after the game we got to talk about that in a second here but but listen I got a soap box moment get Mahomes quarterback 13 or 32 off my television screen like get it we're talking about legislation what our kids shouldn't see at school what they shouldn't be learning about like should we have political ads on television I want the PFF scores off the TV as bad as I

want political ads off the television because like God forbid there's somebody watching the game who doesn't know who fucking Patrick Mahomes is right they're going to be badly misguided brother 13th best quarterback in the league. I mean, if I was not Nandi, and maybe he earned it this year, but I would fucking sue. I'd be in Chris Collinsworth backyard, dude. You know what I'm saying? I'd be at the window. Like, what the fuck?

You can't do that. It's crazy to me that every second night. I make comments about the PFF grades too. I think it was last week or maybe the week before. He's like, I just don't know what the hell they're looking at sometimes. How do you have a guy who's grading somebody and you have no idea what he's being coached? every single player is like seeing those comments on social media just be like yes spags yes it's it is it was gratifying to hear spags say that very very gratifying but the end of the game the fight

we were in there last night like fucking we were in there last night looking at it like like john boy we were breaking down all 22 we were bringing down let him fight we were trying to figure out like who was who i think we got diving into ross it was moulet it took us a long time to figure out who who who was like doing the, we call him Groundhog now. Yes. But it took us a while to figure out that it was Millett that like burrowed into the pile of people. Like, and then came out in a dude in a hoodie for the chiefs just big boyed him and like tackled him. And then Millette's like, what the fuck?

Yeah. Like Millette looks shocked that that happened to him. And he's like burrowing under a lot of people. He burrows under and gets fucking clobbered in the nose. Like crazy dude. It's like why did you dive in the bottom of the. file but but but juju got pieced and juju comes out with like a bloody nose and shit well well well overdue for juju i'm sorry juju for as many ticot as many ticot dances and logos you've danced on

and you have you have done in people's faces and like look i'm not i'm saying yeah he deserved it but what's funny to me about this whole situation is when you do these type of dances and you taunt people in your face, you have to know that at some point, someone's not going to accept it, and they're going to hit you in the mouth. And when he got hit in his mouth, he tried to flop. He tried to flop after the game, the first initial hit. And it's just like, and then he kind of like realized that after you pull it up here so we can see it. We don't have to, I don't want to get sued. I think, I think he realized like, hey, this isn't during the game. So I can't get a penalty and get the satisfaction that I want and he's like oh wait I got to go do something about this and then gets rolled

up dog it was chaos in there I mean you've been in a football fight yeah I mean that that was kind of look at it look at that look at that well yeah it took him a second and then he tried to run at him but hold me back and then look no but he wasn't saying hold me back no but like why do you go at him you're not really trying to fight look at this what do you mean you're you're coming straight at me while one of your teammates is holding me and you still let the dude grab your face mask and the position like do something I don't know bro I think he's trying to come at Brian Branch

but but Pacheco's run an interference unintentionally like there's no there's no target to strike Branch just was like absolutely OD after the game and it and there was some extracurricular shit during the game and I'm sure there was shit from the

Chiefs to for sure and I was a lot of frustration in this game like I know people think that the Travis Kels see DPI was late, it clearly was either DPI or holding. Clearly, okay? I don't think that was a catch.

That's why the chiefs hustled up to the line to snap the ball. We see that all the time in football. If the chiefs can see it, so can you. So be mad at the coaching staff. Okay. And the other thing on the goal line, from the people that are in the know that explained to me, like, this is something that happens all the time. Like, I'm not an NFL official.

This is an illegal motion. They can huddle. They can talk about it. there was that shit. Temperors were flaring. There was Aiden Hutchinson hitting Patrick late, which I totally get because I think that, I think two things happened there. I think he got kind of pushed into Patrick.

And I think he thought Patrick maybe, maybe, uh, pump the ball because the ball came out so weird. Like I don't even know if. To me, that's not cheap, though. Like that's, you can say whatever you want, but like there's tons of, you know, roughing the passers every week. Like, he's just trying to compete and play. That's what I'm saying.

right now. Patrick Mahomes he got called for it you know what I mean right but I and Mahomes my homes didn't see it so like to him it felt like the dude just took four steps and cleaned his clock so he got up pissed like kind of like what the fuck dude like you like I thought I thought we you know we weren't like that and then you know like in the end zone branch kind of when when Mahomes scored that touchdown branch kind of came across and this is a little thing but like kind of came across and hooked him and gave him that little extra shove and then my homes pointed at him did the you know his because could be taunting. But, you know, at the end of the day, this was a chippy game. And after the

game for Branch to do that, here's the thing. You can get mad at us for, for taking, you know, taking a balanced stance on this thing or not motherfucking Mahomes for X, Y, and Z. But like, your coach, Dan Campbell said after the game that Brian Branch's actions were inexcusable. So take it up with, with Dan Campbell. Because that and long those lines, Chris, I was going to say, like, it was really, I was really impressed with Dan Campbell. Like, he gets this, you know, know he's a meathead and he gets a rep as a meathead and we joke about how he eats three pints of ice cream tonight and stuff like that but like the bottom line is he fucking cares a ton about his players and he cares a ton about his team and he was incredibly well spoken and i thought

the way that he handled that situation to me was really impressed i think it would have been really easy for him to not do that and uh i don't know that's kind of that's kind of what i took away from that's like this is a dude cares a ton about his players he you know walked a fine line of saying the the right things while still admonishing one of his, you know, good players. I think he handled it well. He did handle it well. And, and listen, they have a tough culture there. Like, we all know these teams that I've played on certain teams that played on the edge. Like Jeff Fisher's teams, we were known for playing on the edge. And some people would even call us dirty sometimes. And then Greg Williams is our D coordinator. And then we're like, fuck, you know, like.

Yeah, we're a little bit. Yeah, a little bit. But, and a little, like, you know, playing on the edge is good. Yeah, for sure. But you can hurt your team here. because there will be there will be suspensions possibly coming out of this fight you think suspension possibly yeah there were punches thrown and and i don't know who it's going to be um but dan campbell's in the business and winning football games and like winning on the edge playing on the edge like that's what we want to be we want to be edgy we want to be like we want to be motherfuckers dude like everything about the lion says like tough ass team but it was interesting to see dan draw the line in the sand and be like hey we're not that team though um which which is

cool. I mean, it is cool. It is cool. So I got one thing before we move on here, Chris, it's coming up in the chat a little bit as I'm monitoring it live here on my second monitor, but I am also a little bit surprised about the fact that Dr. Fax didn't bring this stat up, and that is that there was zero penalties called on the Kansas City Chiefs in this game. Do you have a lot of thoughts on the NFL refs just in general for this entire slate in this entire year? And it's one of those things that I just have to pick and choose when I'm going to spaz on them. And I don't know if this is the game I particularly want to be upset about because whenever the Kansas City Chiefs play, it's one of those things where benefit of the doubt

is going to them. I don't know why. And I don't know if I watch enough games to have my have my mind be skewed a different way. But Patrick, certain guys get calls. And I think that the Kansas City Chiefs are definitely one of them. But NFL refs as a whole, and then, you know, and an independent referee that's at the game explaining what's going on, the NFL as a whole has to do better with that. Because you can't have me watching the game and have a guy on TV telling me what a call is and what's supposed to be going on. And then the complete opposite happens like in front of our eyes.

Welcome to football. Like it's just, but when did we do the study last year? It gets bad. We did. We did. And I came home from. from Philly when we were up at the birthday bar and I'd put like the house on the fucking bills

and they lost the chiefs and there was a whole tush push thing and I had been, you know, had the chiefs back all year because like there isn't a lot of data that supports that they're getting every call. It's a self-fulfilling and I fell into it after that game

because I'm like I had the fucking because I don't hate the chiefs but for a night I hated the chiefs because I was on the bill. You're on the other side of the, yeah. So you're just constantly looking for it. Dude, I watch football all day. People miss calls less than right.

And I'm sure the chiefs get a little bit more leeway than a bad team for sure, dude. I think it's just, I don't know. I think it's a chance. But the chiefs, this thing is just a clock. There was a misholding call on one of the bucks touchdowns yesterday. I mean, you know, it's clear as day. The calls in the Patriots game, those phantom calls. Did you see that?

Bro. With OPI on digs. Bro, there's a lot. There's a lot of stuff that's going on. now with the refs and that's why i say yeah it's too crazy to have to um what what to have to to coach up the refs or like look at their plays or grade them but something has to give like something honestly has to give and i just feel like as a viewer it's just it's crazy if you're a viewer for a first time if you're a better for the first time and like you lose a bet and it's like you

really don't have an explanation why i like in a what call did you take issue with last night The explanation is availability heuristic. It's just that we see the chiefs in these big spots so much more. So much. No, everyone else. And we get all the angles. When I watch Seattle, Seattle and Jacksonville was a great football game.

Or not, it was supposed to be a great football game. But Seattle and Jacksonville, like, that's the marquee 1 PM game. Like, it looks like it's shot through a Hubble telescope, you know, compared to what I get on Sunday night. Like, the fucking, the Sunday night camera. angles the you know the the microphones the the analysis the availability of the top officiating crew or got it's just and when we see a team so much that we do hate i don't hate them but people hate them i like i get it like eventually you're a human being dude you're here there isn't a fan base on twitter that doesn't act like a little baby after a loss your fan base too whoever you are

whoever you are, your fan base acts like a bunch of little bitches on the internet after you lose a game. Yes. Jags? I like that. Absolutely. No, you're not. We'll see. No, you're not. We'll get out of, man. It's a Jags thing. I can't wait to get Dexter Lawrence.

Yeah, no, we're realistic. Nothing can't do anything wrong yesterday. Oh, no, he did a lot. But, well, go read about him on Jags Twitter. Hey. If you, listen, here's the bottom line, dude. Here's the bottom line. Everybody acts sour grapes from the,

lose a football game. And the Chiefs win a lot of football games. They have customarily. They're the new Patriots. They're on TV all the time. That's it. And it doesn't help when they get, you know, like what you were saying, they're on TV, but they run the plays that are right on the line and they all go to the rafts and put, you know, one yard, one yard, one yard. But it's really hard to figure out because like for the Chiefs, you know, everybody must want to see the Chiefs, right? Like, so the league's pushing them forward. But the Eagles, oh, we're just not getting any calls, right? You You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm just going from team to team. Nobody wants to see the Eagles in the Super Bowl.

The Eagles are pushing themselves forward. This year. They edited the Eagles out of the script this year because of the calls we saw on the like what are we doing, bro? Like, play the game. Everybody is just turned, everything has turned into this like every call only goes against my team. Like, come on, dude.

Every media personality only dislikes my team. I mean, that is kind of true for the Jags, but we can talk about that earlier time. Jags, we don't get no calls. you remember that passing a affairs call last week it was clear as clear as day and everyone's like oh what what happened we gotta go we gotta go we gotta go to the next game

we gotta get to the real the main event yeah let's talk about the good shit let's talk about the Hemingway game Hemingway's whiskey the drunkest I have a proposition before we get into this so we're calling this the Hemingway game because it's the drunkest game this game was played in London I propose that we call it the Winston Churchill game

you know was he a drunk sitter oh yeah old iron sides those could be the Winston Churchill game this this this this this time love it okay the Winston Churchill game Jets bronco watching the Jets offense is like watching tectonic plates like just sitting in a fucking field and what watching them yesterday was like watching something that doesn't move very fast and like unless you if you squint you it's it's It's like watching the sunset, but not even that fast. You know, like... Like a glacier move.

A glacier. I heard you talk about a glacier earlier. I was talking about the patch receivers. The patch receivers were like glaciers. The Jets' offense is like tectonic plates, dude. You know, like, I'm going to need a million years to see them, like, really move the football. Honestly, dude, I saw Justin Fields passing chart yesterday. If they, you know how you fish on the banks of the Rivana River?

Mm-hmm. If they had... If they did a casting chart for you, it's the same fucking chart, dude. It's the same chart. One over here right by the line of scrimmage. One over here, right by the line of scrimmage, right by the dock. One right here. One right here.

One right here. It was not a pro offense. After the game, Fields was quoted as saying, there's 11 games left. And Lindsey Jones on X said, that sounds like a threat. oh my god it's getting fucking late early in new york man and they lulled us to sleep with this quiet off season we got rid of erin rogers you know ding dong the witch is dead erin glenn he's so fucking cool and he does seem cool and he was a great player and he did a great job in detroit last year and like everything's great we haven't heard any bullshit out of this team and then they almost

beat the Steelers. And then he did the Merton Hanks down the sideline. And then ever since then, dude, they've just looked totally hapless. And they still fumbling the rock. They're still turning the ball over. I had tweeted during the game.

I was just like, because I was generally, I don't know why, I was generally rooting for them to like to do something good to maybe come out and win this game. And then the fourth quarter I tweeted, I was like, damn. I was like, Jets fans, y'all go through this every week

and shout up my guy Hoodie Allen who's an artist he responded right away and was like yes and it's just like for some fan base that does have to get really really tough to be invested

in a team and just watch them because they should have won that game they had chances but you look at the stats pro this guy Hoodie Allen white rapper and a Jets fan his life is not easy and they didn't even turn the ball over because that call got overturned, which was bullshit.

Because earlier in the game, literally the same play. Troy Franklin catches the ball, takes two steps, maybe, and fumbles. But it was a pass break up. He never really had possession. And they called that a fumble. They didn't even review it. And then they go and they don't give it the other way when when. Dude, the fucking football, a football hit a wire in London.

It's the only game on TV a week ago. Will Riker kicks the ball into the wire. The wire just like, do-do-do-do. And they don't do anything about it. So I don't think it's personal. I don't think it's like a Jags, you know, conspiracy theory to hold the Jags down. No, it's a marketing thing.

Like, you got to, you got to chill. Like, they can't make the issue more. You're like the Jaguars woman reincarnated. The one that's like, but you can't just have a newcomer coming and steal the show. That's like the level of conspiratorial thinking you're swimming in. No, but then back to the Jets, the pile on the Jets, bro, I've seen a meme that was hilarious. Hey, all of us in here theoretically had more passing yards than Justin Fields.

Theoretically. Theoretically, he had, he ended the game. I know he did. I know he did. I watched the game. The Jets, they should, you guys remember in college and high school playing, like playing triple option wishbone teams? how frustrated that was. Dude, let's just do that.

Absolutely. But they're not trying to win. I'm convinced they're not trying to win. And I'll say this, we were going back and forth on this earlier. For all the decisions that Aaron Glenn made in that football game, and I am pro Justin Fields, whatever that means. Like, I just want good things to happen to him. I feel for him.

I don't know that he sees the field. Okay, like I'm ready to admit that if that's a thing. Okay. But in that particular game, it was time to go to somebody else. else in the second half. It's just the delta between what winning football would have been that particular day was so far from what I was seeing on the field. And not to mention, you know, like it took till almost the middle of the second quarter to get to your 10th play in your script. So like you're still on the script at halftime. You know, like that's just not good. And,

you know, I know the coverage is great, but the time to sack, I'm sure by the end of the game was like 3.8 seconds or something like that. At one point it was like in the fives. Yeah, in the five. And it had me stretching. And I was like, maybe I would like to go, I'm going to just. I got those numbers for you, Chris. You do? 4.4, 3.8, 3.6, 3.4, 3.3.3.2.2.2.9.2.2. And 7.7.

9 times. It was a pass rushes wet dream. One. Nine times. So he was pressured. Fields was pressured on 16 of his 29 dropbacks. and on those 16 pressures, he attempted only four passes. Only threw the ball four times.

Dude, there was like a fourth down. Where are you going to throw the ball? Crazy. Hey, listen, if I die and I go to heaven, I don't know if I've done enough to go to heaven. You hear anybody say that lately? If I die and go to heaven, I think heaven for me

is rushing against the 2025 New York Jets on loop. I think it's waking up day after day, not being sore. like Bill Murray and Groundhog Day, except my alarm goes off and I'm like, you get to play the Jets again in front of a pack crowd, dude, on silent count or whatever it is, dude, because it's like charity.

And, you know, you pair it with the fact that, you know, like the head coach's decisions. And here's the worst part of it. What we should be talking about today if he had done one of those things right is the Jets getting a win in London

over a Denver team that just beat the defending champs because the defensive head coach got his defensive football team ready to play. really fucking well, which they did. And instead, we're talking about before the half, 40 seconds to go, let's take a time out, put Breece Hall in as the PP or whatever he was, which supposedly is abnormal for them. Did give away. And run a fake punt instead of running with your offense, which is a public declaration

that your offense can't pick up a yard. Your punting team actually has a better chance. Yes. And then take it to the half. Right. To the dismay of your very best player, Garrett Wilson, who, like, seriously, they should extract him like, like Denzel got that little girl in Mexico and man on fire. That's what they should do to Garrett Wilson. What was his name?

Greasy. Greasy? Yeah. Yeah. Somebody needs to go get him. Poor guy. That was a stunning sequence. It was stunning.

We came out of the commercial and Rich Eisen and Kurt Warner were still saying like, we have no idea what we just lost. What's going on? And then the second half of it. of the game, the second half of the game. We don't need all three timeouts. Let's just think about it. And then pun anyways. And that was the situation where you go.

It was a situation where you go. All right, Broncos fans are saying, hey, you haven't talked about us yet. You're only talking about the losing team. Well, you didn't earn it. Defense earned it. Defense earned it. Defense earned it.

Did they, though? I mean, they're great. Like, the Broncos' defense is great, but the Jets' offense is also absolutely. That was as close to seeing a minor league offense play as I've seen in the NFL. And like I played with some minor league offenses that practice every week. And I see him practice because I'm on the team like four times. Like that that's insane.

And I will say, I will say, I did not love Sean Payton's game plan. You know, like if I'm nitpicking, you know, what's wrong with the offense? Like, I don't know, man. Like, they start the game out and they're trying to get on the edges. And the Jets edges came to play. And so they're trying to get on the edges of the run game, trying to make the guys tackle and that sort of thing. And they just couldn't.

I thought like they finally found a little rhythm on that drive in the second half where Bo Nix, Miss Cortland Sutton in the red zone. Sherwood was Waldo. You know, if you can get somebody on 44, you're going to win. But late in the game, they started to spread them out a little bit. And I thought that's where they would have more success if they did, including gun runs. Like Jets' defense, they have not quit,

which I think says a lot about the team and maybe the leadership that Aaron Glenn provides, he's working on the decision-making. I want to let him learn because I do think he has a lot of intangibles. He's got Justin Fields playing quarterback for a team with an offensive coordinator that, you know, a former Jets executive texted a media member yesterday

and said, the offensive coordinator has to swim home. We're going to do worse flight. I'd like to do worse swim. And that goes to the Jets offensive coordinator, the Atlanta, Engstrand. How do I say his last name? Engstrand, yeah. Yeah. I mean, seriously, dude, fucking jump in and doggy paddle to fucking Maryland, man.

Because that is, that was one of the worst game plans. God damn. It was awful. Bo Nicks threw the ball 67 yards. In the air. In the air. Brickin' Don. He missed. He missed, but it was a man. But we were just talking about longest throws. That has to be up there. That was incredible. And then I want to say the Benito Certains CERTAN thing is getting into uncharted territory.

If we are talking about Benito as a DPOI candidate, go back and look at like the last corners, the corners that have won it this century. I think it was like Charles Woodson, DPOI in 2009. Clay Matthews led that team in Sacks with 10. It was a young Clay Matthews. Okay, they're going to have two guys with double-digit sacks, right? Like they're going to have one guy who's a DPOI candidate.

The runner up on that team. team had four and a half. Stefan Gilmore won in 19. Take a guess who led the team in sacks that year? And with how many? You'll never get it. What year? 2019.

The Super Bowl year where they beat the Rams. Like Manor or something? They could play lockdown man-to-man defense and unlocked everything. This is why the Stefan Gilmore year is almost the most impressive to me. No, it was Jamie Collins and John Simon tied with four. four sacks apiece. So like, you know, just the most recent thing, honestly, where you had two guys like this was like James Harrison getting DPOI in 09 and then Troy getting it in 2010.

But a corner and an edge rusher playing at this level, like you're getting an uncharted territory. It's pretty cool to watch. It's insane. And it's a symbiotic relationship. Yeah. Yeah. If you watch the Discovery Channel, you know what that means. Yeah.

And Cooper and Benito working with each other, like they meet at the quarterback. They are getting off the ball so fast. There have been four examples this season of a defense holding its opponent to fewer than 10 first downs in a game. Broncos have done it three times. So, Bo, to your, you know, did the Broncos earn it? Boy, have we earned it this season? Three out of those four, hot dog. Yeah, no.

I mean, like, hey, it's not the Broncos' fault that the Jets showed up and was like, hey, let's just see how fuck we can make the offense look. John Franklin Myers bowling, too. Just one more guy with the defense shut out. Probably one of, well, you guys can tell me what, one of the most underrated? I would agree. I would agree. Third in the league among interior guys and pass rush win rates.

Simmons, Malik Collins, who we've been, you know, praising the whole season. I was just about to bring up Malik Collins. Yeah. Malik Collins, who somebody needs to, you know, go rescue. Tampa. Yeah, we'll get there in a second. So anyways. And just the last thing on Bo Nix, I'm all in.

Two weeks in a row, a game winning drive. That's huge. Like when you need it. And the script, like his first, literally, I think it was his first 15, 20 plays, solid, that touchdown throw to Atkins, like, beautifully schemed up. He knew exactly where to go and when to go there. He's solid. Sean needs to stop being so cute.

It feels like when that offense is clicking. It feels like when that offense is clicking, they're fine in Ingram. Yeah. The last two games, they've started to mind them. They had the big Ingram drive in the second half last week, and he was the guy yesterday. because sauce was on Cortland, I think, a lot of the time. But then sometimes in the red zone, you're like,

how the fuck should you get Cortland on Sherwood? Right. And those are the matchups you get when you spread people out a little bit and make the linebackers walk out of the core and cover. And so, like, I like them spreading out a little bit sometimes. All right. Should we do Seattle Jackson on next? We're going to say hi to BetMGM.

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Shoot it out there. Tell your homies. Poo-poo! Tell your homies and jump on in. Show that shit. Yeah, because we're having a good time. You know what I'm saying? Okay, Seattle, Jacksonville.

McDonald's... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What? I thought when I talked about the Jagsville, we'll start with a chant. Yeah, I was waiting for that. Yo, see, this is what I mean about Nolan. This is what I'm talking.

mean about Nolan. Nolan is the reason why I'm going to end up hating the Eagles forever. Because Nolan rarely trolls anyone, but when it's a chance to troll the Jags, Nolan, he hops in with these little things. And it's like, come on, dude. Have you ever considered that it's maybe to troll you? No, but still. No, I get it.

No, I get it. I get it. And hey, look, the Jags, guys, we're still. We're still four and two. That's true. Like, what do you want? What do you want? We still can go, we still can go two more games where you guys would have to come in here and be like Dr. Fax is going to be here quiet.

We're not even at 500 yet, guys. No, and nobody said anything like that. And it's week six, but you got to know, I'm a Jags fan. But who said anything like you? We're not used to this. And we're good still. I think you are still good. That's what I want to say right off the back.

And I'm going to say like, hey, hey, fucking Newsom, get it together, bro. Get it together. We just rescued you. Hey, hey, we just saved you from Cleveland. We just said it ends up together. Don't make us send you back, bro. I get it. Your first snap.

It's not fair. It's not right. They throw a 60-something-yard bomb on your head. But look, J-S-N right now is honestly, if not one of. He's him. He is him. the best Y receiver right now in the league. He's Amber Fisher.

But he's very good. He's himathy shallow. So you get a little pass there, but after this week and you get your feet in the ground and everything, no more of that, bro. I think he's good. I think he's good. I think Liam Cohen's probably going to play that in a big meeting. Hey, Liam, I got, anyways, guys, I got a special message from a Jack's alum.

I was devastated, see? I was devastated saying that. Not on him. Not your first play in the New Jersey. Well, if it makes you feel any better, Tyson Campbell had kind of an iffy day as well. You know, but I'll say this first because obviously we're going to talk about the Jags a lot because there's a jags guy here. But like Seahawks fan, fans, if you think you're getting glossed over. No, Seahawks are not.

Who picked you to win the West? All right. So we love you. We love you. I think McDonald knows how to win on the road, 10 and 1. You know, coming to the game, the question was, What do you think? Because there's injuries in the secondary for Seattle, the whole thing.

Who do you trust more? I do trust Sam Darnold more. And yesterday that was on display. Trevor's not the reason they lost the game. Okay. Seahawks are the number one DVOA team in the league. Overall, they're number four on defense. They're number four on offense.

I read that today. Maybe that's like maybe I got catfish. But to me, on paper, the efficiency that they play with, it looks about right. offense and defense in the top five. 33 pressure, seven sacks. A lot of people are going to tell you was on the offensive line. That's the narrative right now.

And I agree the offensive line looked like shit at times. Center got abused. There were times Little got abused. Dudes were taking turns. I mean, that defensive line from Seattle is, and I said this early in the year, they might be, if not the best defensive line in league, one of the best defensive lines in the league. We took Leonard Williams, Mafe.

You've got Byron. Byron Murphy. Murphy's got a lot of sacks Yeah he does He's got four and a half He's I think he's leading defensive Tackles in sacks And then the only guy

That I'm obviously forgetting his tank Who came back this week and ball it out So they are a bunch of motherfuckers to deal with And they play physical They destroy blocks And the one thing in this game was All right like the Jags We're gonna get to make those guys in the back end tackle

Like Emin Warray You know screen game early Seattle scared the shit out out of them when it came to the screens. I think they ran like two or three in the first quarter and then never again like two more the rest of the game. Yeah, on the game they were like five, five total for like 14 yards.

And when you stop the run like they do, that's part of the deal. So then you get them to third down and I think the big, the story of the game was third down distances 10 of 12 from long and that means third and seven or longer. And some of those were like 16, some more 15, you had self-inflicted wounds, you have penalties.

A penalty calls back a touchdowns. freak show touchdown but it calls back a touchdown okay here's here's the the key figure for anybody that's going to pin this solely on the offensive line and absolved their quarterback time to pressure was 2.8 seconds i repeat time to pressure was 2.8 seconds jeez you know what that means that means he's holding the ball a little long and part of that's because of the down and distance when i watched the game back i said yes certainly the offensive line got abused in spots but there's also a lot of spots where Trevor Lawrence can be a lot better. And if you're a Jags fan and you're going to wholly reject that sentiment,

you know, in the spirit of just dumping on the offensive line, which has to be better as well as the quarterback, then you're not a fan of the team. You're a fan of the quarterback. And that's what I hate that fan bases have gotten this thing where there's just these factions and it's like political. It's like, are you anti the quarterback? You pro the quarterback.

If you're a Jags fan, you want to see Trevor Speed is process. us up. End of story. And fix the offensive line because it wasn't good enough. But here, last week, I'm gonna fucking ball more. They need to run the ball more. But in that game, though,

part of that's about what Seattle did. Yeah, yeah. You know, and they're a hell of a football team. That's the thing. Jags are on a short week. They just won their Super Bowl. Nobody shocked that they lost. I'm not shocked that they lost.

And I didn't do the thing on Tuesday morning where I put the Jags in the Super Bowl. I'm not saying anybody in here did. I'm not even being funny. No, yeah. But I'm not going to do the thing where I put him in the outhouse either. You know, Trevor has got it, he's got to play better if you want to be one of those guys, if you want to be one of those teams.

And the offensive line obviously has to improve as well. It's not the only thing. Yeah, we just have, we have little things to do better. We lost this game realistically by a touchdown, I mean a touchdown and a two-point conversion. Just like the other games that we won, like it's a slippery slope with us. We have these close games where when you look back and you see what the type of penalties we're getting. and the timing of penalties we're getting. Like, hey, yeah, we're, we're, we have less drop passes,

but we still have drop passes and it's the timing of them. Brian Thomas Jr. had another drop pass that is just like, you know, if you catch that pass, we have a chance to go down and tie this game up. And that was a dime. Exactly. And that's what I'm saying. Somebody takes a turn all the time with them. And that's what I said.

It's either Trevor's fault or then it's something, he does something really good and it's someone else. Somebody drops the ball. And it's like, oh, like, give and pull. Like, who are we mad at or whatever? It's just that we have to get these things together. And then the lining up thing, to have a touchdown call back, and like for not lining up on the line of scrimmage,

that was brutal. That was brutal. I'm a Travis Hunter fan. But hopefully that's something that, like, it'll never happen again. But I see that coming up more in league this year that you see that they said the refs aren't telling guys physically anymore. if they're on the line, like you usually see the wide receiver. They don't, the reps don't have to.

The young joker move. Yeah, like they don't have to tell you thumbs up or thumbs up. Isn't young joker? Who was the wide receiver that? I think it was, yeah. What was his name? Kid areas, Tony. It's amazing how quick, young joker.

Isn't that his rap name? Yeah, yeah. That's a young joker rule. Remember he checked with the, and then the trick play came back? Yep. So I'm with you, though, Nate. It's just like the little details. And I think Liam Cohen's a really good coach,

but he has, he has, a ball of clay and Trevor Lawrence, but like there are some habits in there that you got to break. And I think his eyes go down sometimes, like, late in the down where, you know, something will come open over the middle, like whether it's a cross or late or like a dig and he just won't see it like where you say, well, that would have been a hell of a throw. Well, look at the throws that the guys on Sunday night are making. So like if you want to hold him to a different standard, that's fine, but you're going to get, you know, a different result. Like if you think you're a contender, the quarterback has to play like a quarterback that can elevate. And, and, and, and, and,

Thomas Jr. has to play better in that like, hey, there was one play where he got his, his cleats caught up on, uh, on, on somebody. I forget who it was. And, uh, it, it kind of looked like he didn't give maximum effort to go get that ball. And like, I feel for the guy because he's going through stuff, you know, mentally with the drops and that sort of thing. And he had a really productive game, but like these things show up too much. And I didn't think Liam Cohen's game plan was great either. I just didn't. Like, where were the hots against the blitz at times? Like, I, I just didn't love it. But talking about the Seahawks, okay, we talked about the defensive line.

We talked about the secondary filling in. JSN's a stud. Somebody texted me yesterday. It would be fun to hear you guys talk about how JSN gets open. Okay, the first thing is everything's off play action. So they create a ton of space late in the down, and it gives, and that's another thing. Watch the Jags go play action. Their offensive line doesn't sell play action.

You watch Seattle do play action. Things look married. And that's why we were so excited. about this offense coming in with Kubiak because the little snippet we saw early in the season with New Orleans, better quarterback, better players now. Okay. So when you have time, you have four seconds back there to hit a deep over, right? Or, you know, if he's outside, you have the time versus cover three that he's going to press that corner inside and then make the play on the comeback or the deep out. Like, and he can also beat press. We saw him beat press yesterday. You know,

like, you can play him in underneath stuff. And then, then you can run by your shiny new corner in cover four where you know just the safety's flat-footed and the corners just beat and you know so he has all that stuff but the offense allows him to break off these big chunks and he's got the perfect quarterback for it because the guy's got an arm yeah and and they're well coached and and that's what it is like why is js i'm going to lead the league in receiving yards possibly because every time he catches the ball it could be 30 yards because their offense is set up that way and and it's a lot of fun to watch watch and Seattle one of 12 on third down yesterday finding a way to win on the road

Trayvon Walker has missed when he's not out there really was he really is he's turned into I don't know if it's flip where he's the Batman and and and and Hines is the Robin but they're both hell hell of a player either side but they really do need each other yeah and the times where Walker hasn't been in the game and he can get any snaps as many snaps yesterday They just don't look quite the same. Yeah. And I also think some of the JSN production is also coming from, you know, quote unquote, getting open is can also be the ball being delivered right on time exactly where it needs to be. Like to your point with how well Donald's playing.

You know, I think there's probably a lot more site adjustments going on between those two than we'll probably appreciate where it's like, all right, here's how we typically say we run this route. But I'm in my stem and I can see I have outside leverage. so but they're right on the same page without having to say a word right and and the other thing is and it's it's obvious but like just to explain a little bit more is when you go and play action you know the linebackers second level of defense they're they're pulling them up yep and that that clears space for the digs the overs the you know late and downs if you're going to play man they'll run these crossers and and you know it just take it's too long to cover and so if the seacocks want to take the next step sundell had a really rough game yesterday you know bradford's been a little bit of a liability in

past pro like you think about buyers at the deadline maybe there's a there's a situation where they're buying from the uh cleveland brown's yard sale brought that up last night so um Seattle they got to feel like they're contenders yeah it's so funny to me because and nothing against the jags they made moves this week like they were contenders right like they're like we're going to get a a fucking corner like we just beat the chiefs at home on Monday night and they they played a team this weekend that hasn't bought yet and i think they're they're looking like that kind of team so um big win for seattle jacksville's still a good team i'm not saying they're not oh i don't on the record i just they for them to be contenders like i know they beat the chiefs last week and

that shows you a lot but for them to be real contenders the quarterback has to elevate his game 15 percent especially because from this point forward like copycat league you know i thought you talked about um with the seahawks defense it so well to me what it boiled down to was mcdonald created conditions where Trevor had to beat them and because of the inaccuracy and those kinds of things he wasn't able to do it so um you know take away the screen game you know the rushing efficiency wasn't there so everybody's going to try to copy that game plan a little bit and and force Trevor to win so somebody brought it up in the chat breton strange matters yep no question big time so you know they're not playing with a full full deck they'll be fine um look like that we're both fans of teams

where quarterbacks need to step it up right no no question which team is my team which team is my team which team is my team which team is my team well let's talk about his oh his team all right yeah i'm like bro i've been keeping it real it's this perfect thing quarterback for my team is fucking bawling man yeah yeah he can't even talk shit about him yeah can't even talk shit about him yeah he would be the John of my segue. Speaking of that, he would be the MVP right now. My NFC Super Bowl team,

the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Nice. Nice. But your Pat's pick is looking really. Oh, yeah. Looking really good. I was thinking about you this morning. I was watching that.

By the day. They call me crazy. I'm going to be unapologetic about this because sometimes, like, you know, people get upset if I, if I have, like, a love affair with the team in the NFC because the Eagles are also in the NFC. And, like, I think some people,

don't realize that like this is a national podcast so i'm not wip like i it you know the bucks to me have looked as good as anybody with peace is missing out the ass dude okay peace is missing out on the drive of uh of this ball game they're down to offense tackle three offensive guard five wide receiver five wide receiver six wide receiver seven and running back two and baker's been winning games in crunch time all year with that setup. And I just, like, you can't understate, and they can play better as a team.

That's the scary part. And Bo knows what I'm talking about. Like, they haven't taken advantage of all their opportunities. You know, there were balls where he was behind. Emika, a begbo. Early in this game, right after the Warner injury, they were trying to attack the middle of the field and he kept being

behind. Emika a big bow. And so, like, I just, when they get healthy, they're going to be fucking scary they already are and Baker on 3rd and 14 I said this last night I was like

I don't know what I would think if I walked by Baker Mayfield at the mall like what does he do for a living but it wouldn't be if I didn't know who he was professional football player he made some professional athletes

look like they never played football before in the pocket and out of the pocket on that play and he's been doing a lot over the past calendar year and a half really his whole career creative but I think he's been taking to the next level just he's being talked about like an MVP and I'm glad they are talking about

him like an MVP because he's playing fantastic and and it's just a good team win good team win for the Bucks Niners I feel for I feel for Niners too I mean they're banged up too he saw Fred Warner

it sucks it feels like there's been a lot of very traumatic injuries for star players in the NFL lately. But so that sucks for, you know, the Niners and Fred Warner. But talking more about the bucks, I think the coolest thing for me is like, I was actually with Bake on Friday night. I was talking with him. He was fucking cool dude. One thing that he mentioned to me that's like, I think flying under the radar a little

bit is just the strength of their schedule. Like, look at who they've played, who they've beat. Like the 49ers are not, they're not a slouchy team. They're four and two. I think they're going to give Seattle some problems in the NFC West Chris. They just beat Seattle at their place. They're going to play the Lions on Monday night. Then they got, you know, the Saints who played decent at time.

Then they have the Patriots, the Bills, the Rams, the Cardinals. Like that's a pretty serious schedule, especially like mid, you know, midseason. If they can come out in November, eight and four, I think that would be incredible with how banged up they are. Yeah. I think realistically it will be more like seven and five. But I mean, the bottom line is they're five and one. First in the NFC South. It feels like they have an incredibly firm grip on the NFC South and on the NFC as a whole.

And they're doing it without all their fucking stars. Like Big Boo, injured, hamstring, Godwin, down. Mike Evans, down. They just paid Luke Gettakee a fuck ton of money. He's been injured. Bucky Irving's hurt. Collager Cancy, their first round pick from a couple years ago, who's developed into a really nice young rusher.

He's out. So, like, they're doing it without all. of their major guys and you feel like they're just doing it on the grit and will and determination of baker which careful with the word grit copyright copyright detroit i believe they're calling it moxie these days so tampa's got moxie detroit's got grit okay well we got the moxie grit bowl coming up this week that's gonna be an incredible game who's the who's the who's the gm for the for the bucks uh jason light jason light that's that's who in situations like this this is that's who in situations like this who we have to start hyping up is GMs that know how to build your team that know how to build a team

and know hey if shit goes absolutely back crazy and all our starters got hurt what will we have what type of team will we have now because yeah it's a crazy thing to think about until that shit happens every year and yeah and to hear that baker is playing with wide receiver four five six or six five six seven and on a game went and drive and there's not saying that there's a drop off but making it work i think that should be applauded and and we talk about all these teams and you want to throw all these teams like a life jacket or a lifeline and be like oh well this person got hurt that person got hurt and then you see this situation and it's just that hey the bucks are winning and whether you know that they're not

winning with mike evans or godwin or all these regular names they're still winning Dude, yeah, to that point, Nate, like, so what I was going to say is, like, the offense, Baker's completely elevating all these wide receivers around him. Like, look at Tess Johnson. That ball. Tess Johnson is an MVP candidate. MVP. MVP. That's what's awesome about this.

He's going to be MVP forever. Yeah. That's his nickname. MVP, Tess. You guys got nicknamed. That is not an easy catch, man. Totally. Over the shoulder, the back half of the ball.

And then goes to do, like, a. fucking round off back Hansberg in pads. It was really cool. And then also like Cameron Johnson, I think Kate Otten's picked it up a little bit. And then, you know, we've been talking about the bucks offensively here for a good stretch. I don't give the defense some love too.

I thought Todd did a really good job of confusing Mac Jones, especially in like critical moments early in that game. Should have been a pick six. And then later in the game with Jamel Dean, Dean had a, I think, a sack force fumble too. And then I got to give Vita some love. Like Vita's been playing really well. He had one of those games.

It's kind of just a classic noseguard game where he had some incredible rushes, pushed Mack Jones around in the pocket a little bit and then flushed him to other guys who get the sacks and go celebrate like crazy. But Vita is playing really well. I think the defense has done a really good job. Dude, Vita is the best neighbor in the world. If you live next to Vita Vaya, like the property value goes up. Like everything's just you're going to get so much, so many good things are going to happen to you if you line up next to Vita Vaya. And what I have written down here, Bo is how many players in the league are more indispensable of their defense right now than Vita Vaya?

One of them just left. I mean, I'm biased. Yeah, Fred Warner. The other is Chris Jones to me. Talked about certain a little bit. Certain. I think without Aidan Hutchinson, the Lions defense would suffer a lot. It would.

I think the list is pretty short. But they played last year. The point is, I think Tampa. I think Tampa, when you look at their defense, like, there's kind of this thin veneer that's holding them together scheme and really good coverage behind it. Their coverage has improved a lot. And they had two corners down yesterday. That's another thing is like, you know, your two starting corners are down. You've got a young slot out there.

You've got to, you know, the safety play was great yesterday. But the linebacker play is not great right now. Yeah. And I think like, you know, when it comes to Dennis, I don't think he sees. the field and coverage. So, like, you know, ironically, as a smaller guy, I would think he'd be more of a cover guy, but he actually is a little bit better in the run game,

the way he kind of slithers through, and, like, he's got a funny way about him. But, like, they were just working that hook window. They were just, the middle of the field was all day yesterday. And to the point where I think they pulled him out for a second, we saw Dion Jones in the game. Yeah, Dion Jones is out there for a little bit, just to give you some numbers to support that.

Mac Jones yesterday in middle of the field, 15 of 18, 228, and a 105, It's not good. And we've seen Levante David's elevators you know, when you talk about like my dad always used to tell me about those. Hey, you've got these elevators, your mental

elevator is going up your whole career and your physical elevators going down. And this is your prime, right? Where their elevators are right here. And Levanti's mental elevators way up here but the physical's starting to go down, right? He's one of the smartest linebackers in the league and you see him do stuff

this year that you're like, all right, he knew where to be. Yep. but you know i have seen like a little bit of tapering off and so linebackers are concerned for them pass rush is a concern for them pull up where's read did reed leave can you pull up uh vita vea's passing chart that i sent you last night look at this shit you see those green lines there are bodies attached those green lines it usually two yeah usually too that's his route tree and yeah i'll pull up his coverage chart favorite thing is like fans that you know every week now take some route tree from somebody else and they're

like imagine if we sent our wide receiver of them like it wouldn't be the same you're your receiver's not yes or you know like but but imagine if your de lineman had this had this rush tree and uh and he just makes everybody better around him i mean like yeah that's part of the reason i just wish can't see was healthy too because he's those are two guys very different body types you know both very productive in very different ways. If you get him on the field together, it's pretty cool. I don't think Logan Hall is quite as disruptive

as Kansas would be, but that's, to your point, Chris, like I'm biased. I fucking love Vita. He drafted me and basically pushed me out of, or he was drafted and basically pushed me out of Tampa and I still fucking love him because he's that cool of a guy and that impactful on the field. I think he's not getting enough love nationally for how well he's playing.

No, he's not. And, you know, the cancy thing, I don't think people realize how good cancy had become. You talked about it, but like can't see it become this really good player. If they're going to be buyers, they need to buy on the defensive line. And, you know, it might be a tackle. We've thrown out Malik Collins. We've thrown out Zach Seeler.

This is a really deep group of players that seem to be tradable assets for teams that might be tanking, like the defensive line. You know, you look at like Jalen Phillips, you know, guys like that. Bradley Chubb, although there's a big number attached to him. You know, like you can infuse some pass rush at the deadline. And I would. I really would because if you believe that this team can win it all, and I do think they can, you have to add the pieces to keep that dream alive.

The exciting part, too, is what I was just going to say is, you got to feel like they're going to get better. As long as they can get through this tough schedule, you know, in mid-to-late October and November, and then come out with these wins, these gritty, these moxie wins that they're getting, they're going to get healthier. I think it's going to make them a lot, you know, continue, like more fun to watch.

You're going to get better, you'd think. Especially in the secondary and to what you guys are saying with adding pass rush, the secondary is going to, as they get healthy, they're going to get, that play is going to improve. And I think there are things that, you know, with Bowles, how creative he is from a coverage standpoint, they can protect those linebackers a little bit, get them more involved, maybe in the pressure looks as opposed to having to win and hook her windows and those kinds of things. So going into December, you said, I think, one, two, three, four, five, six. You got six games till December.

They're what, five and one? Yeah. Okay, I think they go four and two. So do I. Especially if they get some guys back. They can get to eight and four, though. Dude, the sky's the limit. Now, as far as San Francisco is concerned, I just do want to say this.

before we move on, what you got? Well, I think we're going on the same direction. I was gonna talk about the Fred Warner injury. The Fred Warner injury is a heartbreaker man. Like anybody who loves football has respect for Fred Warner. Like he plays the game with respect for the game, dude. Like the way he plays, the way he leads,

like obviously not everybody. Did he break that record yet? What record? Like the punchout, he's about to break the franchise record for like forced fumbles. I'm pretty sure he's gonna force another fumble at some point. but but that dude is like one of the most and we said it who are the most indispensable not you know

he's one of the best and one of the most indispensable players in the league and like um you know losing him's going to be big like you saw it when they go jet motion and get that touchdown before the half it's the communication and no one you know there's a ton of other situations where we saw in that game where you're just like have you guys ever experienced that like losing the green dot during the game oh fuck yeah yeah chaos yeah that's what it looked like that's what the tape But not only do you lose your green dot, in the first four plays of the game, he blew up a screen, blew up a run play, and sat in the hook zone with depth enough to, like, dissuade Baker from hitting, I forget it was a comeback or a dig, but like, it's just all three, four, all his skills are on display, like when you watch the Niners play. Like, if you pay attention to Fred Warner, he makes them better in so many ways. It's wild because, you know, they have so many injuries, but they're able to hold it together with duct tape because of Christian.

McCaffrey and Fred Warner and now you lose one of them. It's tough. It's tough to imagine. You got no pass rush and Fred Warner losing him behind it is really tough with a young secondary with certain guys that are playing for the first time communication issues. It's tough. Totally. There's an emotional tool. I think that comes with a star player, like a leader on your team getting injured in that caliber during the course of a game also. I think that's a tough thing to overcome. No question. A game-changed player like him, there's almost like a, I imagine a belief that like you kind of play with walking out in the field with that dude. And yeah, I mean, I asked you this last night, Chris, that injury is so critical for them that I wonder if it kind of changes the way they're thinking about whether they were going to be buyers of the deadline. Because before when you have Fred, it's like, hey, if we had a rusher here, you know, we could kind of keep things together defensively.

But now it's like, now it's like, do you really want to do that? Right. Like maybe somebody like we talked about, you mentioned Coon. Yeah, like Coon, it's like it wouldn't cost you much. It can factor in the rotation, but... I think the Eagles need to go after Jermaine Johnson. That would be great. I mean, I don't know what's going to cost, but like we've been... He came back yesterday and looked pretty good. It wouldn't have to travel far. The good thing is about the San Fran is if you want to try to look at this positively, like they still have a good record. And I feel like their coaches, like with the weak under their belt, I feel like Robert Sala is a good enough.

defensive coach to get someone in there that can do what they need to to still be competitive. But the 49ers as a whole, they're just a team the past couple of years. They've really been ridden with injuries and they've always found a way to be contenders. And like at the end of the day, when you have a year going like this where guys are getting hurt beginning the year, you don't really know what your team might look like when it gets to playoff time, all you're thinking about is, hey, we just start keep knocking off some wins here and there. If we can sneak in without anyone, like kind of figuring it out that, hey, we're still decent. All you got to do is get to the dance. I think this is one too many. They've got wins over

the Cardinals, the Rams, and the Seahawks. I think this is one too many. I'm not saying just for them to win the whole thing. Like anything can happen. And I got a lot of respect for Kyle Shanahan. Again, I would put him as a coach of the year if the season ended yesterday. But it's like, dude, the defense, they're struggling to rush the pass, or you lose your best player. Offensively, you've got to back up quarterback throwing to a bunch of guys that don't get a lot of targets customarily.

The one good thing is the offensive line, I feel like, has done a pretty good job in protection yesterday. The Bucks got to manufacture some pressure and beat a bit as a motherfucker, but it's going to be a tough room. Yeah, you got to. Yeah, but then you're going to have to outscore people. Yeah. You know, there were some situations that game last night

where you're like, ugh. And wide receiver, five, six, and seven. You know? One of them's got five broken ribs and four ankle sprained. Oh, my God. That's a wild deal. Yeah, that's nothing. I thought he was called,

I thought he was cap until there's some research and supposed to- Juan Jennings? Yeah. Let me say this about Juan Jennings. That's a fucking football player. Yeah. I don't, receivers, you know, they're skill guys. Yeah.

But Joanne Jennings, to me, bro, I got a lot of respect for that motherfucker. He's a ball. I have to look that up. Because five broken ribs and playing wide receivers sounds absolutely crazy. You take your life into your hands when you put your hands up. You put those balls low. Exactly.

It hurts to breathe, right? It does hurt to breathe. It hurts to breathe. That's wild. You know, it's not a lot of fun either, playing with broken ribs and getting the slide to you? That's not a lot of fun either. You did that? Oh, fuck yeah.

How many ribs were broken? One, one at a time, two at a time. So, like, when you say that, like, is it like a fracture on one of them? It's like, it could be small. fractures small fractured rib still hurts like no no no no a broken rib i'm not trying to change it but yeah like when you hear that it's not like it's not like one of your ribs was completely snapped no nobody's playing with a snapped rib but if you if you don't if you've never heard that before i feel like that's what you mentally like their ribs was broken yeah yeah and they're still out there isn't that like

what you think if you're not like somebody that's never had a fractured rib i'll tell you another one is terrible it's a fractured sternum yeah that's the fucking worst dude that is the fucking worst that's way worse the broken ribs Kyle Kyle cracked one of my ribs you know this my brother I've told this story a million times I hear or what no fuck no that doesn't sound fun but no Kyle came up to to joint practices when I was with the Eagles or no I was with the Patriots at this point and he was with the bears and he was playing guard and I stunn inside and I cross face and I beat him clean as fuck and like you know Kyle's like I'm not gonna let my big brother beat me no way and he whips his giant arm around like the opposite arm and just clubs me in

the rib as I'm going to as I'm going to swim him like full speed like boom and I don't know if he had a brace on or something but it was like immediately like you know that when you get hit in the ribs real bad it's like it's like oh fuck and and uh and I felt it for like the better part of two months and it was it was Kyle it was my own brother dude so yeah it's uh it's uh sucks no sucks ass five of them one jennie's a dog dog um okay so now we're going to the flyovers early year first stop beautiful miami bro the shots of the fucking stadium and like the the beach and stuff well not a stadium because that's like a little further inland but like yeah the the shots coming out of commercial make you want to be in florida like yeah if you're a player you're watching that

you want to be there and then you get into the locker room you're like get me out of here get me out of here especially players only meetings and you're like oh my goodness yo first of if you even show up believe it or not the dolphins they had plenty of chances to win this game and they looked pretty decent their defense they looked decent on offense for what they did putting up points and staying competitive in this game. I think that their defense, Rassul Douglas is maybe, him and Phillips,

but I can't even throw Phillips in there because he missed the sack that would probably help them win that game. That's a tough guy to get down. I hear you, and he's wearing it today. He got hula hoop by him, though. He ain't the only one. Yeah, I know. And it's still bad for all of them.

No question. But, no, I hear what you say. But the dolphins, their defense, They have players and names, but I just don't know. The whole-defense's cheeks. It's bad, bro. And here's the thing that the Chargers are going to get all hyped up, and they should build, what's his name, had a big game.

Not Vildor. We were just talking about the bucks. Vidal? The fucking running back. Vidal. Yeah, yeah. Kamani Vidal. He had a big game, right?

But like, if you're thinking, like, if you're the Chargers internally, if a move was on the table, a move is still on the table, because that's the Dolphins defense. I'm gonna tell you what it felt like. Go grab what you call, if I'm the Chargers. Who? Go grab A chain. Yeah, exactly.

Everybody watching that game and watching him play, like, there's no good angle. The one he took it to the house, there's no good angle. There's no good angle, but he'll make it. But here's what I think watching that game. Can I say what I said last night again? Just the, you know, the reference is a little bit on the line, but it's just like it came out that way. I'm talking about I'm talking about the watching

rewatching the Dolphins and Chargers game and there are some good players on the field we've named them right I'm not saying there's not a lot of good players on the field but especially when you watch the Chargers McCawkey can play right Badal great game you know but like it looks like

21 other people were like I'd love to play a pickup game with an elite NFL fucking quarterback and it's like a make a wish thing dude like like like the quality of his play relative to everything else going on in the field it's so funny bro you know like i heard people say oh the you know uh jackson dart beat fucking um justin herbert no he didn't like go back and watch he's under siege they've got a guy

playing tackle by the name of bobby heart who i rushed against in 2017 or something and i was like yeah and he's been on 11 teams since like they've got guys playing up front for them that are just like they're not supposed to be out there respectfully and and and it sucks like because he is as evidence by the end of that game a fucking nightmare to deal with like a nightmare I mean to let Miami back in the game the one thing the charges have to clean up besides getting healthy and all that shit is they've got to fix the red zone yeah the red zone let the Dolphins back in the game, not scoring points in the red zone. But late in that game to make that play, for it to feel like it was over, you know, like the whole chargering thing that people

say like they're charging, they're charging. They were charging for a second. They were. And then Tua was Tua wing. Whatever is all. Dude, we got to get into that fucking for a second. Tua was doing what he does. And I pick at the end of the game, not that it really mattered, but in the grand scheme of things, it does. matter like Miami's like it's just how do you throw a pick on on on a a lateral play on on like a last minute ditch play it just it just it just it just looked bad in Miami and then obviously the biggest thing that coming out of this game is Tua in the media I've said it on I said it online a few weeks ago when I seen it in his eyes

he's not a guy they should do everything they can in their power keep him away from microphone to keep him away from a microphone I think he's at that point where maybe like his tolerance and his and his going up there to do be the company man and say the right thing I think that's out the window for him right now so I would try to keep him away from the media because everything he's saying I just think it's it's lighten the ignition in the fire in the locker room more in a bad way what he said beau if if it was somebody like an anonymous source that reported that they were having player only meetings and people were late and missing them you'd be like god this is really bad the only way it could be worse is if the quarterback is relaying that news

like yeah like to me they need to mushroom cloud the whole thing down there and i know i've said this for years and i'm not even going to do a you're dumb i'm smart thing but like Oprah dot jiff dude shrugging Oprah dot jiff i mean like it's it's exactly what the fuck i thought it would look like and the bottom fell out. There's no culture. Part of my take guys are geniuses about this. They're like, hey, Mike McDaniel, pull your fucking pants up, dude. You got you got Caprize on, and you're one in five, dude.

You can't be wearing capries. I think they ran some stat about coaches and caprice and joggers is him and Herring Clan, dude. Only one. You got a little less ankle. Like, it's the little things that matter. And I think Mike is a really good offensive mind. I think at a point, here's what I think. I'm just going to tell you, I think he's known that Tua wasn't the guy for three years now.

And he just had to deal with it because you don't get these fucking head coaching opportunities every day. And he's had to support his players and back him up. And, you know, but he was kind of, he was dealt in imperfect hand, dude, which is like, I've got all these fucking skill guys. And I got this great system in a run game. But like if the quarterback can't elevate the group, you know, eventually. or window closes and now look at the roster. The roster is terrible. And honestly,

Chris Greer should be shown the door before the trade deadline because, and I saw somebody talking about this, is like, if you don't show him the door, he might hold on to some of the players and try to win more games to finish the season. Like, it's got to be a fire sale dude. Like, go down the roster.

They've got to blow it up. It's over, bro. It's over. And I told you. It's over. And I told you. Yeah. By the way,

if Fitzpatrick is there. Phillips. Chubb, Waller. Somebody rescue Waller, dude. He can still play. I think Waller's right where he wants to be right now. Waller in L.A.? They got red zone issues. Waller in L.A.?

There you go. Yeah. Guys played in Vegas, Miami, L.A. True. And he's sober. I know. How about that? Guys are a fucking amazing human being, dude. It was crazy.

God bless him. I saw their stats. this morning, Tua's one in 15 in his last 16 games with teams versus teams with winning records. I know it's not just two, it's also the dolphins. But then he throws his team under the bus. Okay. But it doesn't matter because his kid still love him when he goes home. But he's not, you know, obviously it goes without saying.

I mean, but, but dude, he's not even the big problem this year. Uh-uh. He's not. He hasn't played, he hasn't been the huge problem. No, no, no. The defense is trash. Defense is trash. And they just don't, they don't pay attention to details down there.

install the details they don't pay attention to you know it's all like symptomatic of dude's being checked out they're checked out and it's Miami already in mecanoes you could exactly exactly the problem people book the trips to Miami they're in Miami they're in Miami they're in Miami so I feel it's by the late to the team meetings they're coming back from Greece and then a guy quote tweets fucking Tua yeah how great is that and everything with a grain of salt right everything but it's probably true got cut and shit get cut and get mad but this guy was like self-deprecating He was like for the whole three. And I missed that.

I missed that. Yeah. There's this guy. We pull this up, yeah. He said he was on the practice squad. He was like for the three seconds, I was in Miami.

He goes, I'm almost positive to a miss was late to a meeting. Like, while I was there. And somebody just pointed this out in the chat. And I said this last week on the Tuesday pod. McDaniel, this is from Tales of a Weed Smoker.

McDaniels took over the same team that Brian Flores has. And he's too soft. The players hated Brian because he held them accountable. They hated Vic Fangio. they ran him out of town. Brian Flores was too mean, and now I'm hearing reports that the Dolphins want more of an authoritarian

to be their head coach. Oh, my godly, dude. Make it make sense. You know, they just, they just. Make it make sense, Tua, for real. But those guys. Demented is, were some of the takes that I was reading

in the heyday of the dolphins. Demented takes, bro. I'm like, you guys are just nuts down there, huh? Like, it's just, Lemmings, dude. You know what lemmings are? They just run off the cliff. They just follow each other off the cliff.

It used to be a video game. They're like a little rodents, marsupials. Yeah, they just hop off the cliff. It's like how everybody did with the take that they were an elite football team or that he was an elite quarterback. Get out of here. Okay.

Next flight. To Carolina. Oh, my God. We did boys. Oh, my God. Charlie in the chat, I didn't say this. you see what charlie just said at the bottom can't see it that's pretty fucking funny there he said well he doesn't have the arm to throw them over the bus that it's a wild

that's a wild statement and i didn't say it okay boys panthers um this is an awesome game riko's revenge game as it were uh rico dattle finished about almost 250 yards from scrimmage in this game B-Bee. Outstanding performance. He's on a career-year trajectory, currently on pace to break his personal record in strimmage yards by a good margin. Offensive line was awesome in this game. Obviously, it's the Cowboys' defense.

The Cowboys have struggled against the run all season long, but 2.6 yards before contact per carry. That's unbelievable. And then Bryce, this is what we talk about with Bryce. Like, he's in a good situation when he's supported by a run game. when he's well protected, he made it look easy out there. And coming to the game, Greg Olson was talking about how the offense, they wanted to improve in terms of right now they're passing the ball,

best out of the gun, and they're running the ball best under center, and they want to kind of be more efficient out of both alignment. In this game, Bryce, 123 rating under center, 144 rating on play action. They didn't do too much gun run, but Dowdell averaged over five yards per carry when they did. So just a great performance from the offense, encouraging to see them make the progress in those areas that they're working toward.

George Pickens, Godly, Agent of Chaos. I mean, just when you think you've seen it all, he's like a reckless driver with the ball on his hands. There is a play. Without it too, sometimes. No doubt. There is a play where

he was holding the point of the football, running with the ball. I've never seen that before. Honestly, if my two-year-old daughter, June, was like a professional football player for a day and had George Pickens' athleticism. Like that's how she would play the game. Exactly. She's just a tank and she just does what she just flies around.

Run around, jumping around. Yeah. At first the whole thing. You saw the one where he's holding, you said that, who was holding the point of the ball. Tries to hurdle a guy. How about the one where he's like,

he like hurdles? I love his movie where he hurdles. And then he's like, fuck you. I don't know why I tried to do that. And like mushes the guy. He had another one where he tried to box. jump Mike Jackson. It wasn't a hurdle because he wasn't running. He just tried to flat foot

jump over a defender with the ball in his possession. Yeah, it's crazy. This is like dangerous for the offense. But then he'll take the ball like 70 yards like yeah like a slant down. Yeah, yeah. Nine receptions 170 yards and touchdown. Um, he had a great game and um, Panthers rushing defense just kind of last group to shout out. They held Javante willing, I mean, the Cowboys coming in the game. They've been one of the best rushing offenses. in the league. Hel Giovante Williams, the 29 yards on 13 carries,

Jaden Blue, zero yards on three carries. Derek Brown made a bunch of plays. Patrick Jones, getting edges set. Rose Boom, knifing in gaps. They did a good job there in that front. Dude, like Derek Brown, you mentioned him, him coming back, like their front looks great. Like, as far as the fundamentals

and stopping the run, I mean, like, beating the Cowboys defense is one thing, but like slowing down the run offense. impressive it's a good day at the office two weeks in row the the the the the the Panthers have held I think it was Miami to like 19 yards and then 31 yards this week like that's pretty fucking good couple weeks we're baits um bates yeah shout out of the it's all over the TV all over the TV Javonte Williams 31 31 on 19 carries you know and and and you know McMillan needs to catch the ball

that's something that's kind of popping up a little bit but he's going to be a stud I love that Dattle said before the game buckle up to his old team yeah and uh and then he proceeds to run for 206 and did you say this but he's the first player this decade to run for 200 back to back no i didn't say it's crazy holy shit that's crazy it's a crazy stat but bryce again dude like get off his back get off his little back get off his little back that guy can play dude get off my my prince get off the young prince Bryce young dude I love that fucking guy brice i'm i'm gonna be i'm I'm going to ride or die with this dude.

It's going to get to the point where I'm going to meet him and be like, bro. I'm like, all these years I've been sticking up for you. He's like, who are you? Remember how when Josh Allen got the MVP, he shouted out the guy who like works in facilities. Yes. Bryce is going to win the MVP. Shout out. Brise him with the MVP and shout out, Chris.

Yeah. It's too bad David Tepper probably hates me because I'd love to have Bryce Young on the show. But, yeah. I told you. I ran back like 10 rows to give him three. green light hats when we were leaving um new orleans who'd you give them to to bryce no way we were on the same flight and whether he left those hats on the plane or not or he might have you know i'm about to message Bryce right now dude might have I'm about to message him right now like hats like including

the be like you better wear that hat bro like the exclusive um Bryce if you're listening just just put it in your locker yeah right sit it in the locker tepper probably comments skated dude oh yeah I saw this thing that we just shared I know that was hilarious Bryce after after he tosses his government mandated pick. Oh, that's fucking hilarious, dude. It is true. It is true. It's like he gets it out of the way, dude.

You got to flush it. You said it yesterday. He did it. And it wasn't no fault to his own. No, that was a big moan drop. Yeah. And you said it. It was like, there's the, there's the Bryce Young early pick.

But also like, I also said go name search Bryce Young on X after that interception. And it is a clown show. It's just people putting, you know, the gif of like people putting the clown makeup up on like shut the fuck up watch the game and then tell me what you think don't just react to every pick you see on the score app is bryce's fault his ability to get i mean it was last week and it was this week on the touchdown his ability to get the ball from hit to up in a throwing motion quick trigger is the quickest i think you know we've ever seen it's so fast quick draw dude put him in a western so so james barrett says in the chat what's a fully realized kiler a hot start

and then ending the season with six losses. We don't know if Bryce is able to mirror that until the season is over. I don't know what you mean. And I don't know if you're comparing him to Kyler, but that would be the laziest comparison of all time. Because the guys play totally different. They really do. They really do play totally different.

Promise you. And I don't know if that's you saying it is or it isn't. But, you know, I'm not the smartest. So we got next. Oh, we got cards and holes. Which is a game that I. Of Kyler. Speaking of Kyler, yeah.

Speaking of the short king, he wasn't on the field. He was out in this game, Chris, but I was really impressed with Jacoby Verset, man. He looked pretty good. It was actually kind of refreshing to see this offense run, like, as design on tempo. Jacoby Brissette played pretty good, man. And let's remember that he used to be in Indianapolis Colt, but he had 44 pastimes. He had 27 for 44, but he had 320 yards. He had one pick that he threw on a short field that he wanted back.

but I think people, you know, I've been a firm believer that the Colts are the best team in the AFC South and I will continue to bang that drum, especially, you know, because I like to poke at Dr. Fax a little bit. And so people are probably wondering, you know, why was this game so close? The Cardinals have been banged up. Honestly, this was a pretty good football game. I actually was surprised. I thought it would be a little sloppier. Daniel Jones played pretty well. He had a 12 yards past. He had one pick on like a boot. I don't think he even saw

the defender. I'm going to blame the shadows at in Indianapolis for that one. It was kind of a weird surface. But he played well in the Colts offense just looked really balanced. Jonathan Taylor, Wisconsin Badger Stud had another

great day. He had a touchdown 123 yards rushing. I've been really impressed with just the Colts offensive attack. The way they're running bootlegs, way they're moving the pocket, the way they're kind of just driving the ball down the field. And there was a lot of that from the Cardinals, too. I don't know. Like a couple other things that sit out from me, like I said, I was pretty impressed

by the Cardinals offense. They are down a lot of their key playmakers. You know, we know James Connor got hurt. DeMarcato left this game also. So they're down to Bam Knight for their running back. And then Marvin Harrison, Jr., who's been playing pretty well. last couple weeks he had one of those head whiplash yeah i saw that that's scary that one looked rough yeah so he left the game i guess what i'm trying to say is uh you know the arizona

offense kind of rode tray mcbride and zay jones and a pretty like a just a pretty solid good game from jacobosette which made this an overall like a pretty good game to watch um it was pretty clean football game man not a lot of slop good game 31 27 i was impressed by the the the Colts winning this game. I think they're going to, it's just like, it's hard to win fucking games the NFL. People forgetting that. All right. So even when you're playing a, you know, two and three Colts team at the time, like to walk away from that from this with a win, I was, I'm still kind of impressed by the Colts. I like what I saw and I thought they looked pretty good. I also thought it was just interesting to see this Arizona offense without Kyler. That's

what I was most injured. I agree. Like they look really on schedule. Not yeah, like I don't want to give, I don't give too much love for the Cardinals. I said Colts won the game, but I totally agree with the way you put it, but it was like, it was almost like refreshing to see them execute plays as designed. Yeah. Like all season long,

you look at the Cardinals tape and you're seeing these throws they aren't taking or things like that. And I just, I was just curious. I looked at their success rate. Coming into the, coming into this game,

they've hovered around like the low 30s each week coming in to week six. And then this week they jumped to 43%. that that efficiency is right in line with you know even if you didn't see this game anybody who's listening you saw the chiefs play last night that's how efficient the chiefs were from a success rate standpoint so they they were right in line with those guys how tall was jacobby burset uh got to be six two and a half six three taller it could That's why I noticed a little bit. Yeah. He was dishing the ball in the middle of the field pretty well, Nolan. Absolutely.

Six four. Six four. Six four. Six four. Six four two thirty five. Dude, dude, Jacobi is a fucking, he's like a perfect teammate. He's a perfect, like, leader when it comes to like, hey, you know, you're in a triage situation and what this guy's starting games for you. And he can play, man.

Like, I don't know if he's anybody's, like, future. I don't know if he's going to get the Daniel Jones treatment at some point. But like, he can play. He's better than people think. You know, we said it Thursday. Like, this was a trap spot for the Colts. So good on them for winning it because the Cardinals who, when it came to actual football, like two weeks ago, they were up two scores in that game.

Yeah. You know, so they had done all the right things that put themselves in a position to win and they did boneheaded stupid shit. Like they're better than that team that lost that game to Tennessee. And they were also going to give their best because Gannon, again, who I thought made a mistake, put his hands on something. somebody got fine. It's not a death wish for the coach. Like, you don't lose your locker room if you handle it the right way. He came back on Monday. I'm sure he had a dope as hell.

Kendall Roy. But it comes down to like teams in the NFL when they have that kind of performance always come back and play better. And that's what the Colts dealt with. They, Colts are starting to get people's best shots. Yeah. Like, you know, it's pretty, it's pretty interesting. Is that, is that an indication that the Colts are for real? Like, like, Like we've been talking like, oh, maybe they might turn into the pumpkin. Is that an indication? Look at, pull up the call. I'll tell you when we're going to know the Colts are for a look and pull up their schedule.

But go ahead, Bo. That's exactly what I was going to say, Chris. Their schedule, I mean, I like the quotes. I like this Daniel Jones resurgence. I love. This Daniel, this Indiana Jones guy. I love Jonathan Taylor. I love watching him bulldoze people in space.

And he had a really good block on a couple of, couple of those JT runs. So I've been kind of, like, I like the Colts, you know? I just think, I don't know. We're going to find out November 23rd and November 30th. Their schedule has been easy. That's what I was getting at. That's four weeks stretch, Chris, that starts there.

November 23rd. And, and I think the Texans, you know, one of the things about the Colts, their offensive line has been so good. I don't know exactly how they played yesterday because that was a side TV game for me. Played well. They're pretty good. They're just solid. That group's really good.

But when they play the Chiefs, like we'll know a little bit more. And I expect that to be a good football game. Next four games at Chargers, home against the Titans, at Steelers, home against the Falcons. They can get off to a hot start here. I believe in the hot. I want to see the defense. The defense is the thing. Patrick Mahomes and that group right now, like it could be a little.

And they were downward, obviously, with the pregame. Holy gosh. Shit, dude. Yeah, that was crazy. I've never seen anything like that. Yeah. Yeah. And it looked intentional, but it wasn't.

Like, tight-in looked like he was trying to, like, Perry Tatum, but he was going for the ball. Did you hear about Richardson? Yeah, I heard about Richardson. Like, bro, I guess, see, in his locker, he was warming his shoulders up with an elastic band, and he had the band hooked to his hangar. And the metal part came back. The hang, to where you hang your clothes at in your locker. And he pulled it.

What the fuck are you doing, dog? But like, but think about how many times you probably done that. I've never done that. But I'm just saying, if you're a guy in the locker, that's how you warm up. I think if you've used that and it's never snapped on you, you probably think it's not going to snap. Yeah, but like the metal end is on the hanger, uh, the metal hanger thing. I, no, no, I think that the bar, the actual bar in the locker flew off. Oh, the bar flew off.

Yes, and at him. He broke his. Yeah. That's what I say you. Like, there's a lot of tens of things. coming off like, you know, his shoulders or whatever. Like, I don't know if I'm trusting that bar. But I'm, like, again, if you've been doing it and it's never came off, you probably have

that, you probably have that. Maybe an awareness issue. But I couldn't think about that, bro. Like, elastic. Did he see the field? Did he see the field? No, I mean, like, I, I, God, I hope somebody gets a hold of Anthony Richardson at some point, having nothing to do with this injury and, like, and, like, teaches him the game.

if Sean McVeigh had like two years with him I'd love to see what would happen but but you know this is just another bump in the road for him and it's so unfortunate because like trade deadlines coming up not that he was going to be a tradable asset for this year like where somebody's going to get him to like add him to the team and like expect him to produce but like I don't know how that affects that whole thing mercury's and gatorade another event you could put under there

this is a mercury and gatorade event for sure your backup quarterback breaks his orbital ball stretching before the game like WTF and an orbital bone a few weeks to a month month or two for a severe orbital break we don't know I just can't imagine what you're called I couldn't imagine after an orbital break like how what it feels like to put your helmet on but you don't when you put your helmet on it literally squeezes the fuck out of your face and like it literally you look like you're like freeing Humphrey we were like freezing there's a fight

During a fight last night, we were like freezing it, like slow, slow motion, trying to enhance and enhance. And then like on one freeze frame, it was like Creed Humphrey. And it was just like his whole, he looked like a damn sharp hey, dude. His face to helmet ratio. Oh, it's crazy. That's the funny. His face needs more square footage, bro.

His face has like a single, is like a one bedroom studio apartment in Manhattan. Like we need to get him in a bigger, like maybe a single. family home. Okay, so the next thing is Rams Ravens, and I'm really interested to take a look at this thing. Oh, Rams Ravens, because I want to see if the defense actually played better. I know they didn't get any pressure.

I heard a stat that was kind of troubling about the lack of pressures. The Rams and the Ravens, the Ravens, they disappointed me. If you go back and you watch this game, if you watch the first drive, like, and you're a Ravens fan, And you're like, okay, like, okay, we got a drive going. We got Derek Henry going. We're moving the ball. And then you get in the red zone.

You get a stupid penalty. You end up having to kick a field goal, not the worst thing in the world. You got some points. And then just the rest of the game, it's like Derek Henry looks like he's back. He's getting some runs for seven to ten yards. And then it's a fumble by Zay Flowers. And then they're just, they're getting penalties. They get down, they get down to the red zone one time.

And this is the funny thing about the tush push, is that they try to run the tush push with Mark Andrews. It looked absolutely fucking awful. And it didn't work. It just totally did not work at all. And then you're like, you know what? This is our season. We need a little boost.

Instead of taking points, kicking the field goal, keep it a game. Like, let's go for it on fourth down. And you fucking get stopped in the red zone, for them. They literally scored three points on their first drive. And to see that this game ends 17-3 and the Ravens can't get in the end zone is devastating. But the crazier thing is that Cooper Rush, not saying that he's the worst for them, but they finally put Snoop Huntley in in the fourth quarter.

And the Ravens' offense looked like it looked a lot better. It looked a lot better. It looked like they were running plays. Lamar Jackson. A local quarterback. Exactly. I know you know, but I'm just like. Yeah, it looked a little bit like the way they were with Lamar and the sense of how

the plays on the offense were running. He had a nice little spark run where maybe he got like 20, 25 plus yards. Was it on a pro play? It was on a scramble. But it just looked like they're off. They're off. You know, with him. It's like you can't do that so much with Cooper Rush.

And maybe seeing that little sample size. maybe they'll give him a chance to start, but I don't know what's what's up with the Ravens. Their defense is just terrible. And then L.A., like L.A. They play with their food, it sounded like. Yeah. Because I gave out, before I knew that it was going to be like a windy monsoon there,

I gave out Rams over team total. And supposedly like, you know, Adams dropped some balls. They missed the field goal. Like, and they were in range of getting there at the end of the fucking game. Well, in their first half went Rams drives, miss field goal, fumble, field goal, punt, end of half. Now I'm understanding. Yeah, haven't gotten there yet.

I will get there soon. Puka and Puka Nakua, there were bad news for the Rams. Likely to miss some time for a sprained ankle. He left early to go into the locker room, came back out in the third quarter. But yeah, after the game, likely to miss a decent chunk of. time you want to hear a fucked up stat the year 2000 the Ravens gave up 165 points the year 2025 so far the Ravens will give up 177 points yeah um going up yeah it's kind of wild and and

and and do you think that ball was out on the goal line where Jared verse pulled it out they they yeah because there was no whistle the mark and you can't let you can't let these sneaks go for 10 seconds and then if the ball pops out not give it to the defense again they they don't know how to officiate it the right way i know but that must be that must be anti raven's bias i'm just joking oh because his face of he's and also for the rams got a couple problems going to jacksville they have no puka and the kicker is a problem right now it seems like cardi's a problem problem um speaking of problems brown steelers me yeah uh can you pull up the jimar chase quote oh my Well, no, we can honestly put, why don't we, why don't we, you want to put that in the,

the bangles breakdown? Would that be better? It just, I just can't wait to hear this quote again. We'll get it in the bangles. We'll get it. All right. So what we need to talk about is, first off, I had one eye on this game and I will, I will get back to looking at it. But, you know, I thought Dylan Gabriel threw a lot of hospital balls, like a lot of hospital balls. Pood a ball, what, 52 times? 52 times and 14 of them could have got guys killed. Only, only a couple of them were over 10 yards. It's a terrible situation to play quarterback in.

I just want everybody to know that, and I do think it's going to be tight. Right, he's got the best seat, not playing quarterback for this team. And I know everybody wants to see him play quarterback. and and I want like I make the change yeah for one so the discourse can stop and we can just watch football because like both sides of this thing it's become like yes it's become ridiculous dude i want to see the kid play football but more than anything as a player like Dylan gabriel's not giving you a chance to know but i don't know if shador's going to give you i know shodore's not going to give you a chance to win now they do play miami coming up there there are some

softer landings that maybe like you know you could throw it in there you could throw them in there he could learn on the fly um i think the coach is going to get fired soon like we thought that there were reports that he was going to get fired and then this morning me and nolan watched his fucking press conference which was just like i wouldn't hear what a dead guy sounded like and and and we turned it on and like it was it was even worse than you'd think like god bless the brown's media pool because like some of the questions were just like bro do you think he wants to answer this question right now they're going to fire him at the end of the day today probably some beat writer asked him if he's considering giving up play calling which as the acting OC is somebody asking if you're

considering like quitting your job yes and also like they're and answer that also like it's crazy i don't know if you know but there's like a train coming down the tracks that's going to be here like two hours and it's really me taking this me taking this opportunity to address the media they're sitting there talking about how they're going to stick the landing on replacing me that's the only reason that I'm here right now doing this. Yes. And the funniest fucking part of the whole thing was this guy, his name was like Joe, like three minutes in.

They were like, we'll go to Joe. And they were like, Joe, Joe, and they were like, Joe's not here. We'll come back to Joe. And Stamanski's like, fuck me, Joe. And then like another four minutes goes by the like, oh, we've got Joe. And Joe was like, oh, I'm sorry, Kevin.

My cat ran across my keyboard. And so I couldn't respond. It's DeFancy. He goes, that doesn't sound very believable. Yeah, he just didn't even smile. Like, deadpan, dude. Same old shit as always in these press conferences. Bro, it was the most painful press conference of all time.

Nolan was like, he started playing it, and then he turned it down because I was watching film and I was like, no, turn it up. Turn it off. I was like, I need to hear this whole thing. Like, this is the most fucked up shit in sports, dude. But Stefancy's a dead man walking. They probably should change quarterbacks to some point. Do I think that Chador is going to look great out there?

No, I don't do it. And if he doesn't look great, does that close the door on his pro career? No, it doesn't. But if he doesn't look great, will people shut up? No, they won't. No. It's just the Browns are like here just to feed the lowest common denominator talking points this year, which is like we're worried about who's playing quarterback

for the Browns. It's like assault playing quarterback for the Browns. Like you get assaulted every play, dude. Who wants to play quarterback? If you go back and watch that game by the third quarter, middle of the third quarter, the Steelers were letting the wide receivers run free, like deep down the field,

because they knew the new five-yard passes were coming. And they were just sitting waiting to jump. Darius Slay almost had a pick six, but it was like he stopped and stumbled because he was like, I can't believe he's throwing the ball to me because I'm already defending this right here. Dude, it's wild.

It's wild. And part of the, just one more thing, to add with Chador. Part of the practical reasoning we should see him at some point is this organization's already looking at the 2026 draft and they have to know exactly what they have in the quarterback room to be able to evaluate that

against the draft class. You can't sit them all year and then just have them on the roster you got to play them at some point so you know what you got and I think that time's coming soon. Totally. You know. Can I say a couple things about the Steelers, Chris? Absolutely.

I fucking love Darnell Washington. He's a Where's number 80? He looks like an offensive tackle. Like, you know how JP played tight end? And we all talk about that and how massive he is? When I'm watching Darnall Washington run with a ball, I'm like, this is what like Jason Peters look like,

probably playing tight end. It's great. But I've been pretty critical of Aaron Rogers. He's kind of a lightning rod for conversation in the media world. He's actually, it feels like a very good fit for him in Pittsburgh right now. Like he looked very comfortable against a bad brown. team. I'm not going to really look too far into the Steelers win because the Browns were that horrific and it was frankly a pretty tough game to watch at times. Like, anytime you have Dylan

Gabriel throwing the ball over 50 times, you kind of want to blow your brains out. I am starting to really like the connection with K. Breeze Hall said, some teams shoot ourselves in the foot. We shoot ourselves in the head. Hell of a scouting report. there. It's fun to see him and D.K. McCaff get gone. But then I think more importantly than anything, Steelers are four and one. AFC North is historically a tough league. It's always a dogfight, especially in November and December in the AFC North, you know, with how the Ravens have been historically, how the Bengals have been at times, Nate. And so it's kind of cool

to see the Steelers in the driver's seat doing like what they were kind of planning on doing, which just get a veteran quarterback, ride their defense and run game. And then I want to give some dudes some love here from the Pittsburgh defense because they were kind of shitty at times earlier this season. I thought it was cool to see Jalen Ramsey have two sacks. It's two more than Miles Garrett had, which is funny. He said that in the game. He said he's going to tell his kids about this game.

I had two sacks in the same game that Miles Garrett and T.J. Watt played in. It's crazy, dude. Well, he has a hell of a football player. He had half a stack. He's split one with Highsmith. But Nick Herbig had a really good game, too. He rushed really well. He was hitting that Euro cross shop all day, Chris.

I think he had like six or seven pressures on it. So good to see the Steelers firmly in the driver's seat, the AFC North. And nice to see Rogers kind of comfortably running that offense against a bad, I mean, against a bad Brown's team. But let's not forget that the Browns defense. Yeah, defense is still a motherfucker, dude. And I think Rogers physically, at the very least, looks very good this year. And then I think compared to what he looked like last year.

You see, he was getting that ball out quick. Even Miles Garrett was. pissed after the game, said, like, even when he was running butt naked, which people probably don't understand what he was saying in the fact that even if he didn't get blocked, he was saying that he wouldn't have been able to get the back. Yeah, look back at the tape and somebody's going to tell me, like, Miles Garrett didn't do anything. I'm like, well, like, they kind of based the whole game plan on him not back in the game. The one thing he could do more of. He's been having so much attention, dude. The one thing he could do more of, in my opinion, and like, I do think he's the best

pass rusher on the planet like if you if edge rusher if you're like bro like I know some people are gonna be you up but but but bonito has more sacks this guy bro miles garrett is like a fucking cyborg he's julius peppers reincarnated and and the if you just watch everything they have to do to take him or t j wad out of the game the thing that tj does a little bit more of is he affects the game and like pb u's you know blowing up screens that sort of thing where miles is going he's in a Jim Schwartz defense. His job in that defense is rush, crush, close. So literally it is rush if it's if you got to set the edge, you crush and if the block goes away, it's close. And like honestly, like that can be a little bit limiting sometimes. Like it sounds like the greatest thing in the

world, but like there's not a lot of flexibility to use them other ways. He's got to do more of that stuff. Nothing he could possibly do is going to turn the Brown season or franchise around. That's the, But that's what, you know, like, before last year, we were talking about the Brown should trade him. Or the Brown's going to be good by the time he's still, like, I don't know, he's going to be good another. They should just try to put him at running back. No, bro. They got a good running back. Hey, Tom, if he is, if he is Peppers reincarnated, it'll play for a couple of decades.

He's going to play for a couple decades. So he got him for a long time. Yeah, true. But so we'll go to the next game. And the next game should honestly, I know what you probably got a list. but I think the next game, it dovetails nicely into the Bengals game. And I'll just say,

I want to start with this. The Bengals, who we're going to talk about in a second and how they played yesterday, but Jamar Chase on the importance of the game against Pittsburgh on Thursday, just the rankings we got going on right now.

We know the Steelers are going to try to come in and raw dug up. We know the Steelers are going to try to come in and raw dog us and kill us. That's crazy. But we're going to be ready for that challenge and we're going to be waiting for it. We know the Steelers are going to come in here

and try to give us aides and not all over our stadium and fucking like decapitate us. Like what, dude? It totally was a bet between him and a teammate that he had to slide that in there. There's no way that was a bet. The framing of that. They didn't really feel that way, though.

No, that's, that's, that's, that's an NFL rivalry for you. And then on top of it, that's something other than football. If you don't, if you don't believe it, there's a quote from Tomlin. Obviously upset at the fact that, that Joe Flacco would even be traded to the bengal. Yeah. So, oh, this is sour graves from Tomlin. But at least he's out in the open about it.

The quote is, to be honest, it was shocking to me. Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me. or us because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a quarterback that you think is good enough to make your day one starter to a division opponent who's hurting doesn't make sense well a couple things here that's true number one joe wasn't playing very well it's not like he traded fucking joe burrow he traded joe flacco but you thought of them enough to have him as your starter well that says something about the other quarterback doesn't it gotcha and then and then second is maybe they don't want to win games yeah

you know and i think that's the undertone here you always say that you should make a book of the arts of tanking of taking the right way well look at what the jets did i swear the jets if they wanted to win that game i should have won that game if they just decided i know it sounds so simple but like i was like just fucking decide to win this game like i can beat man and mad and i could be the fucking titans and be playing the fucking the 85 bears and i can scheme up one man beater dude like you know like get somebody on a fucking linebacker like is you think there's a script to like to be able to lose to be like oh he's going to run this oh i got the perfect play that's not no but it's just subtle things like it's subtle things like like um like you know like

like trading joe flaco in division you know like in saying that you really don't give a shit you're just like hey yeah have at it have at it this will be fun for a year and Honestly, like, I said this before, and you guys can take it away on the breakdown, but I told you the Bengals were going to look respectable with Joe Flacco at quarterback, and you're laughing. No, they do look respectable. Joe Flacco had a pass in this game that, honestly, to me, is one of the greatest passes I've ever seen with my eyes, where he threw a pass.

I don't know if it was supposed to be back shoulder, but he threw it, and it stuck right in Jamar's Chase's fucking armpit before he can even realize the ball was coming to him. Joe Flacco. And I was, no, yeah, and I was just like, holy shit. And it's funny to me this whole game, like watching Browning. And the camera people, if I was browning, I'd be like, fuck y'all. Because every time Joe Flacco did something good, they were checking for his reaction. And he did not disappoint.

Boy, I tell you, like, it must feel bad if you're that competitive. And like, yeah, you don't want anyone taking your spot. And being a starting quarterback in the NFL is. is like a huge accomplishment. But to watch Joe Flacko, a 40-year-old quarterback, come in midweek, they grab him, and it's not even a competition. They're just like, hey, this guy's coming in.

He's taking your job. We're going to put him in an ugly number. And ultimately, for you guys to get the same results, like I know that hurts a little bit, but just them focusing on him during the game was just a funny. Dude, he can take snaps under center. He can put the ball in the vicinity. vicinity of the playmakers he's tough he's a leader he's he walks in the room you have immediate

respect you know like i'm not saying they're going to win the bowl here but but the goal of this team should still be with the steelers with one loss in division and the ravens at one in five like you you still have a chance to win the motherfucker like i know that sounds crazy considering how poorly they play with browning and everything but like you know they're starting to bench people around there they're starting to like hey they bench the quarterback i think they Benz Logan Wilson yesterday? But, like they're starting to fucking,

they're not fucking around right now. But. And that's a good thing. That defense. And Hendrickson, he may be, well, Hendrickson, short week. I don't know how long he's out for. He got hurt.

He's one of the only guys that could stop them from getting raw dog. And honestly, and that's what I'm saying. So if he's hurt, it's just really hard to see this team, like, doing more than a bare minimum.

I think they can hang. Like, I think for fans, I think for fans, this is the greatest thing. that can happen to you the way the season started. And you may be thinking that... It's an entertainment business. You may be thinking that it's just going to be terrible

because at the very least, I think now you can count on if Joe Flacko's in there, that Jemar Chase is at least going to get in the end zone like one time a game. Higgins is going to get some catches. You have a quarterback that's definitely possible, but that defense, they're not going to stop a nosebleed.

They weren't last year either, and that's a reality that they're living in, But they're also bringing along some young players that are going to get valuable snaps down the stretch here. And it's better to be playing for young players in games that matter. For sure. So if you can play in some games that matter, like, that's good for, you know, the young D-N or the young linebacker, you know, like, whoever it is. Like, I just feel like as a player, and of course I'm always stuck on this as a former player. I want teams to try.

You know, and I know I said, like, hey, the Jets are tanking or the Browns are taking. Oh, yeah. I feel you. And I get it. And I've been on teams like that that I probably. didn't even know we were tanking on right yeah like I was like oh we're trying like I'm trying my hardest like I'm out here like trying my hardest but the players don't know like the Bengals they they like I had him to win the division I think they win the division of

joe's healthy I think this year's evidence of that like this is so you you you don't kiss the the dream goodbye of like him coming back in December and you be you guys being 500 and having a chance to to slide in That's all I'm saying. Reed, what did you think, bro? I mean, the Joe Flacco playing catch was the coolest. Was it fun? Oh, it was a blast.

But very interesting. I mean, like you talk about the Bengals, AFC North, they do have a shot. Or, you know, with Joe, they do have a shot. I was a little more interested in the Packers. Like, we were talking about playing with your food a little earlier with Rams Ravens. They played with their food against the Cowboys. Yep. Yeah, they're playing the food yesterday.

I mean, like, you saw them week one against the Lions. Absolutely come out firing, the Packers, that is. Yeah. And then here they kind of let, you know, they let them back into the fourth quarter, 11 points by the Bengals on the fourth quarter. Is this, like I was wondering all yesterday, is this a, you know, you look at the box score, it's not terrible. But if you actually watch the game, you know, they can't keep continued drives.

They can't keep things going. The kicking game, I'm not even going to be able to pronounce his name. but shout out to substitute teacher guy Lucas yes substitute teacher he was like I don't even fucking want to be here I want to teach Mr. H yeah Mr. H I was like

I was like you gotta act like a little excited like you your team's really good no to answer your question I do think I have concerns about the Packers no question like they got to get over the hump of being this team that that sometimes doesn't pay attention to detail sometimes doesn't have the killer instinct like to me you're just as good as the Lions

and I picked him to win division so obviously i think the lions are fucking great they're playing as good as any team in the nfc even with the loss last night i think the packers match up better against the lions than they do the way they're they're handling the rest of the schedule like like you have to have that killer instinct and put games away and i think part of it is jaden reed being out definitely matters and the offensive line has has been totally reshuffled now i don't want to hear it because look at what Tampa's doing. Yep.

But you know what I'm saying? Like, what? Golden might be a nice substitute. Nate was saying Golden. It seems like. You'd have both of them on the fucking field. Oh, no, absolutely. Krish Watson will be back, right?

Like, so. But for the time being, I think last night, Golden, they might have, all those plays for Reed, it was number zero. And you were, he looked, it looked nice. It looked nice for them. But to piggyback off what you're saying, they do have to stop playing around. And I don't know if it's a situation where maybe they're just, you're just, trying to get by until they get reed back and watson and then that whole that that that receiving

receiving room looks pretty scary because if if they end up dropping one of these one of these little you know mess around games they already they already did it against the browns but they drop another one then they're in trouble in this division no question you know that's why winning yesterday was a big deal and it's hard to win in the NFL but go back in okay so so who did the who do the who do you're looking at the packers yes the packers schedule oh yeah because I got that damn tie right packers got packers got arizona pittsburgh carolina philly like those are four games that they can win

um and and then you got new york and then you get into the meat of the in conference schedule with minnesota detroit chicago you get denver chicago baltimore minnesota like the way they play the next three weeks is going to be huge because i see these is three games that you can win you go to you you play you host philly i think you're probably favored in that game depending on how the eagles get up off the mat here but like

you got to get these wins under your belt before you get into the in the conference or divisional games. Can we look at, um, can we look at the Bengals to see if there's a prayer, Bengals schedule? Because I would love just for the sake of content to keep this alive. Well, hey, man, if they fuck around and win this game against Pittsburgh, short week on prime video, then they get the Jets, they get, they get Chicago, they get Pittsburgh. Yeah, man, this is a big month for the fucking, they're going to know. a lot about what they what the rest of the season looks like after the next four games and then you

trade deadline what was the trade deadline yeah it's typically around like week eight week week week week eight week nine midseason point yeah so so so how they play the next three weeks is going to tell you everything the bangles they can't pray for anybody they can no but i mean they might start selling some pieces but if they're hendricks he's hurt he's hurt he's hurt he's hurt he's hurt he's hurt He's questionable for, he's fucking day to day. The MRI came back. But would you want to buy a day to day guy right now? What are you talking about?

Like, would you be trying to pick him up? If I didn't have any pass rushers and Trey Hendrickson was day to day, yeah, I'm going to wait a week and then trade for him. Hey man, I don't need Miles Garrett. He was day to day a month or two ago. So, yeah, I'm just like, yeah, absolutely. You could sell him. There are others. I mean, Logan Wilson, if he's, you know,

Well, maybe that's part of the reason they benched him. And maybe he's headed to Tampa or something like that. I don't know if he's good enough. Well, and this is where it's interesting with the Bengals, because it's like they're looking at next year and like, well, if Joe's healthy, we don't want to sell all these pieces. So it's kind of this. But what is it like to be the,

the, Oh, somebody just said. Tyson Campbell or the person that they don't know it yet, but you're going to be the other side of like this blockbuster trade that everyone's happy about for one way, but you're going to be in the trade going to the other one. Yeah, but if you're going to the Bengals, hey, just holding together for a couple months, Joe Burroughs going to be back next year. Like, you love Joe Burroughs, so you can think.

I guess I'm the only one. Like, you're not the only one, but I just feel like a lot of people wouldn't be thinking that in the moment. Like in the moment, would you, if you got traded to Cinty right now? From where? From... Dallas, player for player trade. Dallas goes to get Trey Hendricks.

From Philly, from anywhere that you think you're in that spot. Okay, from KC. Say Kansas City wants to go get, and now they're on the up and up going on. Well, yeah, you pick Kansas City or some team that, like, you know, like, you're like, it depends, bro. Like, leaving Kansas City, pick another team. Jacksonville? Fuck, yeah. Eventually, I'm going to be happy to be in Cincinnati.

You try. Because of the quarterback. Try the old Eagles bait on them. You try the Eagles bait. You are the. The master of baby. How about the chargers? If you're on the chargers, if you're on the chargers traded to the Bengals, does

Justin Herbert outweigh that? Well, yeah, because right now my team is pretty good. I think Justin Herbert's really good. And, you know, I might like playing for hardball. It depends on the situation. But I guess the point is that, like, you know, like, depending on where you get traded from, it's not the worst thing. Right.

And be like, hey, next year, we're going to be pretty good next year. Like, they got all those guys inked to deals and Joe's going to be back healthy. I thought you were going with the angle like you like Joe Burrow, but other people don't. I'm thinking about, I'm thinking about, but we shouldn't pay attention to the people that think Joe's not a good football player. I'm thinking about Campbell. Those people should get their driver's license taken away, dude. Like Campbell from Jacksonville, like not that he was a bad player. Like, it's just that everyone was more excited.

It's not like going to Cleveland. That's what I mean. It's not like going to Cleveland. He went to Jacksonville and like, yeah, like Jacksonville's in a better situation this year. Football-wide. Like living wise, you're making more money. because there's no taxes. I would live in Jacksonville so hard, dude.

Exactly. You go there. There's not the density of people. But going to Cleveland is just like, oh shit. Like if you're that guy, like getting trade. It's terrible. All of a sudden, like, you don't want to get out of your car to pump your gas. Exactly.

It's cold as fuck. You know, you got no court. Somebody in here was talking about Dallas making a move for Trey Hendrickson. Dallas, if Jerry Jones wants to really win the trade, he goes and sends those ones to Cleveland for Miles Garrett. Ooh. That would, that would. That would be an unequivocal, like, he could flex so hard. He really good.

That could be like his last stand. But this is my last. I don't know the logistics of that move other than the fact that Miles is making a ton of money and Cleveland would bend you over. The last thing on the Bengals Packers, Bengals, Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, this year in 2025, they're making $67 million. The entire Packers wide receiver and tight end room, 27 million. That's wild. Insane. It's wild.

But those guys sometimes you're like, man, it's worth it. Oh, 100%. Jamar Chase caught on the pylon. Fighting through and just a... I just don't want to hear the thing where people are like, oh, well, is Jamar Chase the best fucking receiver in the league anymore? Like, should he not be, should he... Well, he hasn't been producing this year.

Like, how the fuck do you think football works? Somebody throws the ball to that individual. Like half the battle is having somebody can throw you the ball. Dude, that guy's still just... I think he's the fastest player to reach. 50 career touchdowns. You guys a nightmare. Should we go to the best game?

Oh, we got two more, two more, two more, two more. Pat Saints. Bo, what's up, bro? All right, let's talk Pat Saints. Listen, I'm not going to get too far into this. I think the biggest thing that I want to discuss here is Drake May. It's fucking good.

All right. 18 for 261 yards, three touchdowns. I think a huge, huge part of that was a play from the office. offensive line. They only had one sack for one yard. I can't even remember what exactly it was, but I think it was one of a scrambling, got pulled down. There were only a handful of pressures by the entire offensive line. Let me just read this out real quick. Left tackle, Will Campbell often criticized because he has alligator arms. Two pressures. He played well. Jared Wilson, the left guard, two pressures. Garrett Bradbury, two pressures. Mike Unwenu, who's a monster. I played against him when I was in New England. He's a giant motherfucker out of Michigan. Clean. Nothing.

Clean sheet. Great game. Morgan Moses, who I know you're familiar with, Chris. Also a monster. So that offensive line, yeah. We played against him back in the day with the team formerly known as the Washington Redskins. He's a fucking dog. Dog.

He's still playing in the league. Bottom line is Drake May is really good. I want to read you guys off a couple other stats because he's doing some pretty unprecedented stuff here. Let me just find it in my notes. Give me one moment. But he's looking really good, man. He had 9.9 yards per dropback, even with multiple huge plays that were called back. He's also fifth in EPA for dropback amongst all QBs in their second season since 2000,

which is really cool. And he leads through six week, Drake May leads all quarterbacks in dropback success rates. He's producing a positive result on 54.6% of his past plays. it would be higher than any quarterback in the NFL last season if he can maintain that. The bottom line is a lot of turnover in New England, a team that's, you know, been relatively stable over the last couple decades. So it's cool to see the Patriots hit on a young, exciting quarterback. Now, to talk about the Saints a little bit, personally, I'm not a huge fan of Spencer Rattler.

Boo! I think he's good. Um, you know what? I'd call him booty. And speaking of booty, Kishon Booty played really well for the Patriots. Uh, the Patriots like,

just going back to Drake May because I'm kind of developing a little bit of a man crush on them. They don't have like a premier. I mean, they've, they've got Steph Diggs, but it doesn't feel like they have premier playmakers on the offense at times besides Drake May.

And he's really dished to ball of these guys and producing for them. So yeah, he's exciting. A hundred yards and a touchdown taken off the board on Drake May's step. Yeah, I was going to say we kind of already did the whole ref thing, but it's watching these plays that were called back is infuriating. It was some of the most tickey, tacky bullshit I've ever seen out of the zebras. And I'm a fucking ref hater. I don't want to really get into it much more than we already did.

It's just a shame to see this quarterback have such a good game that, you know, his stack. would have been further inflated he played awesome um and these you know these calls are getting these players are getting called back for like shit that's in my opinion like does not affect the you know the play and it's just kind of perplexing at times i don't want to really say a ton about it it's it's it's kind of infuriating you just don't want to say a ton of who's going to get uh it's like it's like what the fuck are we doing dude i i just this o p i eggs the throw but the throw like it really doesn't matter like at the end of the day because they won the game but the throw everybody saw the throw that throw I mean it's 50 yards in a bucket dude it's the it's the

Trevor Lawrence play that everybody freaked out about and then you pair it with actual good decision making and good ball placement the rest of the game like it's it was fucking next level dude and then and then they come back and try he hits mac hollins on the hand on the hands 55 yards down the field again, dude. Insane. Back to back plays. He's a dog. Our boy, Drake May, who came to the, uh, the green light, uh, hangout spot at the Super Bowl. And like, he was just a, he was a bro, dude. He's just, he's like one of us.

Yeah, he's a bro. He's just kind of a dude. He's a dude. I feel like there's nothing, there's nothing like, I don't know, like as a person, he just seems like a pretty regular guy, you know? Between him, him and Jaden Daniels. I know some Eagles fans hated when I talk about this kid, but I am sorry. These, these, these two motherfuckers are incredible and and also very chill like you know you we're just starting talking about how cool drake is like jaden daniel's like biancho he's like he's like yeah i was watching some baseball this week and he's like busting reporters balls about like their baseball teams he's like they're they're good kids man yeah the league is in good hands uh if caleb williams figures this thing out which i

think he will and bow nix is already like joe montana with wheels but like uh this whole draft class is going to put us in a really good spot and we you know Guys, we plan to be doing this for a long time. Yeah, and just remember. We watched these quarterbacks growing up. And then Dr. Fax said that the Patriots, they'll be in the Super Bowl. First in line. I love that you're sticking with it, too.

Drake May, baby. Yeah. Maybe they go get them some help. Get them some receivers. Who would they struggle to match up with in the AFC? I think. We already got the bills out of there. That's the only team we got to worry about it.

I think the next time you play the bills, the bills are going to win. Ooh, I love it. I love it. Do you want to put a blind bet on it? Not, not yet. Not yet. The jacket, jacket. My jacket reaches.

I'm waiting until game week now. My jacket reaches all the way over. I'm going to wait until game week because just my luck, Drake, I don't even know who the backup is on the Patriots, and that's a bad thing. You just never know. You know what, though? Give me insurance.

No, if a backup play, if a backup is starting, the bet voids. Yeah, not for you. Not for you, though. No, yeah. Okay, that's fine. That's fine. You want to take the bet? Yeah.

100? Okay, thank you. I just got really good odds. I'm thinking it'll be like Pat will be catch three and a half at home or something. Twice in a regular season. It's not that long ago, I'm sure. Yeah, I think Brady kind of belt the ass.

Oh, yeah, true. But I'm not taking anything away from you. It is a really, like, they look really good. Brable has them growing up quick. Campbell, the rookies up front. And look, Stefan. Don Diggs isn't bad. Diggs looks awesome,

he looks great out there, but he's also, he's taking over a new role where he's used to being kind of like a diva guy, give me the ball. He's the OG, dude, and he shows up when he needs to,

and he doesn't demand the ball when he knows it's going somewhere else. And that's absolutely perfect. And it's so great for that, are none. Yes, second to none. Yep,

because for that, for that quarterback, for him to be doing that right now, like, it literally can be going different ways, and I feel like that's helping out a lot. And didn't this see the videos of him. He's still himself in the locker room because the video of him playing the music before they're letting the reporters in is like after a win and him just trying to get his video of mouthing the song with your with your bros in the back. I think that shit is funny.

And like I'm I'm happy for Stefan Diggs, man. Quickly teams in the AFC North that the Patriots would give trouble, you know, obviously the bills and then the rest of the AFCEs they're covered. AFC North, the Steelers, feel good about that match up? What? Patriot Steelers? That's actually a tough one because we already saw it. I think the Pats moved the ball at will. I think the Steelers are going to clean some things up defensively as the year goes on. They definitely have an advantage in the coverage spots.

I guess one thing I think about, you know, the offensive line for the Pats is rounded into form, but like let's say they play somebody with a good pass rush. I don't know. Like Denver might give them trouble. Like Denver could give them a lot of trouble. You know, the thing about the A. right now is like the best teams in the AFC don't have great pass

rush. Think about that. Who are the best three teams coming in the unanimous best three teams? Not just the sleuth here of facts who put the fucking pats in the Super Bowl and he looks smart. But like Buffalo, Kansas City, Baltimore. All of them have issues. No, I know

but we're talking about going into the season. Who are the best three teams going into the season? And you can throw the Colts in there. Colts don't have an A- minus pass rush group. Yeah. They don't. They had two sacks, but yeah.

That is, they have a good. Who had two sacks? Lato. Oh, Quitty. Oh, Quitty. They don't have, they don't have a group that makes you shit down your leg up front. It's a good group. I like their group.

I love Lato. I think he's going to develop. I think Pays a good piece. And the tackles are studs. But like Houston, now they got two edges that scare the fuck out of you. You know, a group like that are in the NFC. You think about, golly, man, like the Seahawks. I'm leaving some groups out

but you get the idea the Jags Packers Packers got a fucking scary group so yeah I mean like you think about it like how would they hold up in a situation where the coverage is really tight tight man coverage good pass rush

and that's why I thought the win last week was so big for them because although the bills aren't world beaters defensively that's a tough situation to be in third down up there in Buffalo loud as fuck everybody in the line of scrimmage And you, the Patriots, want to be in that situation come middle of January. That's where you want to be.

That's right. Attacking the Buffalo Bills in Orchard Park. They're on their way. Yep. They're on their way. You'd like to be attacking them at home. That's true. Yeah.

That should be on your mind. Yeah. Crazy. Okay, last one. Titans, Raiders, man. Neer. Raiders. Yeah, I mean, obviously, we already had the news come out this morning of Coach

Callahan being fired. you know yesterday was just a mess offensively i mean it starts with some questionable play calling in my opinion the protection complete disarray they can't pick up a blitz right now um it extends further to limitations of the past catching group i think there's one play that encapsulates all that they're down 10 nothing five minutes left in the half it had been ugly to that point but they're still very much in the game third and three so a little bit of context the previous third third third down, it was like third and seven, the Raiders rushed six, Titans could have picked it up, Devin White, unblocked through the B-Gap, strip sack, Raiders score. So this next third down,

now it's a shorter distance to the sticks. They're probably going to heat you up again. And the Titans call a play action sale concept, which I'm a big fan of the sale concept, number one, vertical, number two, the deep out. But, and Cammore throws it really well. deep out, but it's a longer developing play. And when you know you're going to get, you're going to get some heat, you got to have a hot, there was no hot there, they couldn't pick it up, and he gets sacked. Crosby beat Latham outside, and then Pollard missed the, uh, blitz pick up on white. So that play just kind of encapsulated. Just the fundamental things, just not being able to do those, those things that are like, again, like day one install stuff. They struggle with TEs,

picking those up. Um, and it's just, it's a, it's a past catching group. you know, Ridley went down early in the game that's kind of similar to, um, the Pat's, past catching group, you know, isolating first to find digs just not a group with a lot of juice, guys who can create separation. Um, and so it's a tough situation for Ward to win in. Um, so they, uh, just a mess. We just can't do this thing. Like, I'm seeing people take victory laps or whatever it is on like Cam Ward's shitty. I don't see that. Like I just see a guy who's not honed yet because the offense isn't great and he doesn't have a lot of help around him so he might press at times right like i don't know if you see that when you're watching him but i think

sometimes he presses that's because he wants to win bro it's you know a kid like that he you can tell him it's going to be two years but like he wants to fucking win dude he's competitive and he's got a big arm and he wants to make all the throws and he's got he doesn't have the toys to make the throws too so yeah hopefully um you know some people were asking like would it be the right thing to like sit him down at some point this year to protect them you know i don't know where the floor is we'll see soon but like if i were to do that i would make it perfectly clear that this isn't a personal indictment it's an indictment of our team and like the fact that like i don't want to wreck you yeah the statement you're going to be our daily driver for the next 20 years we hope the statement

would have to be we're afraid of fucking them up yeah because i don't know i i don't know how much right now you're trying to develop the guy and i don't know obviously it's as i just laid out it's not a great situation to be developed in but how much is he going to develop sitting on the bench relative to getting live game reps i don't know i don't know that's where that is i don't know either um but the you know the raiders did get a win Nate so the raiders pretty good you know you got the raiders win total so you know like we're creeping but gino just he just taking up he has to take care of the world um that's it and they might have to lose he might lose his shit uh fishing buddy uh jeff simmons because you guys playing at all world like do you want do you want do you want do you want

do you want like uh some shiny new toys on offense i can get you those you just might have talking about your fishing buddy defensive players that are indispensable like i don't know yeah yeah well yeah but this defense is like yeah it's not even on the map keep it a buck you know the team's not on the map yeah but he's up there you're right about that bow um All right, so I guess you're going to hear from BetMGM now. Is that what we're doing, landing the plane? First we're going to hear from some of our fans? We're going to hear some of our fans.

Let's hear from the fans. Talk to us. Cowboys Trail 2724. They're inside the 10-yard line, fourth and goal. And little Brian Schottenheimer, bless his little ballless, gutless heart. Oh, my God. I'm going to tie the game here. it's not 1993 anymore.

And besides, you have DAC. Oh, the almighty Dak Prescott. Go play the game of football, call an aggressive, creative play, get a touchdown, and put the heat on the Panthers. But no, you settle for a field goal, and guess what happens? And guess what happens? These gutless field goal settlers. Up and down the league, and no one seems to call them out.

Oh, this is a good decision here by the Cowboys. Settling from field, you're going to tie the game. Forget tying the game. What did a tie do for the Cowboys anyway? How's that going out? How's that going for them? Go play the sport of football. Not kicky kickerson, not soccer.

Go call a play and win the game like a man. Yeah, how about that? And how about on fourth down defensively? showed Nolan this morning the fucking DeRond Blan was like playing off on 4th down in the slot like it was just like pitch and catch not the best day at the office

from the Cowboys Brass And if there's any Eagles fans in this chat You all gotta be pretty excited after hearing that Cowboys fan Yeah man they got their issues Yeah you know We're used to that Yeah, yeah, guys always have issues

Yeah exactly exactly Like someone gutless feels like that's That's like a good old time he does. I'm not to bring up that. Buster. It feels powerful. Kiki Kikerson.

He called him Fuel Settlers. That's Duke. Fiel goal Settlers, bro. All right, next go. What's up, Green Light?

What's up, Chris, Fax, Lincoln, all the boys. This is Scott from Nevada. The only Panthers fan in Southern Nevada. That's been confirmed by the census, a.k.a. Skizzy McGlizzi, aka Scoots Magoots on YouTube.

I just want to say Bryce Young is a number one pick for a reason. Fuck yeah, dude. He's finally grown into his own, my short king. Short prince. P. Mack, Teterrault McMillan is an absolute dog on the field. Rico Dowdell is an absolute dog on the field. I say we ship Chula Hubbard out. I know we just paid him, and he's been a great back for us. But let's send him out for, you know, a couple second rounders, maybe your first.

Oh, boy. I think that our defense would be pretty all right. Pretty all right. What do you guys think? I know that the Cowboys have a terrible defense, and they can't stop the run nonetheless. their ex-running backerico dado back-to-back two-hundred-yard games by the way let me know what you guys think about that um keep pounding keep pounding brother keep pounding brother and i'll answer this question because i grew up painting my face blue and in uh carolina blue and fucking silver

uh no shit went to a panthers game as a little kid and like painted my face so that's how much i love the the thurs growing up so shout out um i think you've got a franchise quarterback i'm not saying like he's i'm not saying he's set the league on fire but you've heard my takes my takes that this guy can be the future i think you've got a dynamite corner um that you can build around i think you've you've got to build up the pass rush although i like scorn and and uh the kid from old miss the avatroy he's like seven feet tall i'm not going to correct last name i can't even do it derrick brown the guys inside studs they're stopping the run Like you have some good building block pieces, man.

But you're not getting a second or a first run. No, you're not. But that thought crossed my mind yesterday. It was like, yo, good thoughts. Seriously. Dowell's balling. It's a running back who you paid. Hubbard was down yesterday, too, with a KF.

Like, you know, there's the injury factor. Yeah, yeah. But even if he was healthy, you're not getting a two. No, you're not getting a two for him. I like you throwing it out there like that, though. Yeah. But there's a good idea. It's a good idea.

Okay, next caller. What's up, boys? Casey, your local Colts fan here. Got a question for Dr. Fax. What happened to the best team in the AFC South? Hot his ass. What was going on? Lawrence got sacked so many times back there.

I thought he was catching the Holy Ghost. He was involved back there speaking in tongues just to get the play out. I'm going to shove it up. You know, should have ran a quickout. So just wanting to see what's going on. I want to give you an opportunity to answer that question again. So if no one else poses it, I will ask. Run it back one more time.

I want to hear what he called the best team in the AFC South. Do like a 15 seconds. What's up? What's up, boys? Casey, your local Colts fan here. I just want to hear what he said about. I got a question for Dr. Faxx. What happened to the best team in the AFC South?

I don't know what was going on. Lawrence got sacks so many times back there. I thought he was catching a whole. ghost. You had Duval back there speaking in tongues just to get the play out. Fucking a shove-out a high up, you know, to rent a quickout. So just

a... That's funny. I'm pretty fucking happy. That's good. That's good. But look. But look. What happened with the Jags? What people might not know,

the Jacks sitting at 4 and 2, guess what? You know what 65 is? That's how many penalties we have this season. And guess what? That's number one in the league, and we're still four and two. 17 you know what that number is?

Drops. Then amount of drops that we have as a team right now, and we're still 4 and 2, and that's number one in the league also. That's usually for anyone else, any teams, this is disaster. This is a recipe for losing. But here we are, here we are two games over 500, 4 and 2 right now. There's a lot of teams that wish we were in this spot. Yes, you're a Colts fan, so have your little victory really.

lap, talk your little shit, but shit's going to go downhill to you guys. Didn't wound. He caught that lucky bug right now. It's going to die out at some point. It's going to slow down. It's going to slow down. And my Jags, you know, I'll, hey, I'll admit it. Like, we had a bad game.

But JSN is fucking nice, guys. Like, he's really, really good. And sometimes, some teams, you run into really good players and they can take over a game. Is that the cult shit? That is what that is. But hey, hey, hats off and get your little laughs out now. But just, this is what Nate means. The AFC run through Jacksonville still.

I'll tell you what Nate means. We'll be right back. That's what he's trying to say. I have a take for you to hold out hope for it. You talk about the drops and how they're going to improve with that. Remember that was the 20-23 chiefs thing? Yeah. Remember?

Yeah, you were the only person that's saved with the chiefs. You're like, they're just going to catch the ball at something. Dude, I almost lost my career over that. I mean, people were like, you're the worst. And I was like, no, I'm fucking best because they're going to win it all. And this could be your magnum opus. 23 chiefs. There you go.

That's your take. Duvall. Okay. So, so, so, so, so now we've got the mentions. Let's finish up. But you want to hear from Bet, MGM, don't you? I'd love to. Don't you wish you.

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Yeah. I could be that guy dude. I'm getting good at these. All right. So dude, it's any medicine. They're like, oh, you got a headache. All you're doing is your legs could fall off. Right. Like what the fuck, dude? What are we what are we doing? All right, let's get to mentions. Bet, MGM moments. We got a best flight, fellas. What you got for us? Oh, best flight? I think New England, four and two.

You headed back. You get some fried oysters first off, which are very good down there. Dragos fried oysters, I think. They bring them to the stadium, and you get in the bus, and just happy to be out of that stadium because that stadium has one of the most hostile ambiances

in the NFL. It's the lightings, weird um when the saints are good like the you know like you can really you can feel it and so it's yeah that's that's probably the best flight for me grace i have the same thing but i'm gonna pivot since you stole mine i'm just gonna say rams you know got a good little win go home that's all i got the chargers just a win got the chargers leaving miami it's nice going back west and landing it's probably still light out when you're in too for sure the way that whole thing works versus the versus it the other way around. Oh, the other way around is no fun. It's no fun. I've got a best drive.

We kind of talk about this Friday, but Joe Flacco, taking that thing south down I-71. Yeah, best drive. Ironic, ironic that he had to go south because this was him going from hell to heaven. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. He's looking at three months of sitting on the bench behind two rookie QBs and three months of playing catch with Jason Higgins. What's that, what's that McConaughey? line when he's in the sometimes you got to go back to go to the board or whatever sometimes you got to go to go down like you know if this is this last

rodeo we're literally watching him right off into the sunset yeah this is legit pretty cool throwing balls and Jamar chase his armpit you know he said he wants to play until he can't anymore like I could reasonably he could play till 45 like honestly like he could hold a clipboard until 50 prove it Joe like I dare you I want to see you fucking play to your 50, bro.

I want to be on my, you know, podcast 900, and you're going to be still slinging footballs around. You and the other gem of our draft class, Callais Campbell. You guys are nuts. What the fuck? Worst flight. Okay, worst flight? I already give worse swim to Tanner Hank Strand.

Go ahead, guys. Dallas. I mean, yeah, the Jets, man. Coming back from London like that, I wonder if Garrett Wilson was sitting next to Aaron Glenn on that plane, you know? Bad flight. Long flight. You got to be Dallas, right?

You got to feel like you're about to go get right when you're going into Carolina to play a game. Then just to lose. Not anymore. Yeah, not anymore. And then to lose a close game. Sometimes just losing close games sucks even more. Oh, yeah. And then to lose to your ex-teamate who told you to buckle up.

To buckle up. Click in her ticket. And then he goes on to have 200-something yards on y'all. And you have to hear that clip the whole. Oh, belt-to-ass. That you guys didn't buckle up. Should have buckled up. Didn't buckle up.

First flight, Dallas. Even though they got the win, I gave a Broncos a worst flight, too. I mean, both those teams, it doesn't matter that you won. Like, you're talking about, what, half a day? I got it. In the air. Somebody put it in the chat. It's Rich Eisen had the worst flight.

My boy, Rich Eisen, because he's a Jets fan. I texted him during the broadcast, like, with like two minutes to go. And I was like, Rich, rush the field. Like, I was like, I told him rush the field. And of course. He didn't even win. They didn't even win. That's funny.

Rush the field is funny. But Rich probably had a terrible flight back. you go all the way to England to be like, oh, maybe my favorite team will play better. And to watch that, like we talked about it right for the half. You remember how excited he got? Like, not in a, not in a positive way, but he was just like, what are we doing? Animated. Yeah, because he loves a team.

He saw a Churchill game. He saw a Churchill game. Bevel Conway. Bevel Conway for me was Sunday night. Like I said, like there was not a great looking game all day, like from a uniform standpoint or like a setting standpoint. like Cleveland Pittsburgh's close for me like Cleveland Pittsburgh would be the runner up because you got beautiful classic uniforms and actually if it wasn't such a dog shit game it might be the one but Sunday night bro just like it was something about that game where you turned it on you were like oh my god this is what a good game feels like the dopamine that hit

everybody watching that game especially if you've been in the trenches all day watching those dog shit football games that was amazing and you get the red in the blue red and the blue is just very visually appealing scene Yeah. Hey, speaking of red and blue, Chris, my Bevel Conway, it's actually combined with an anti-bevel Conway, but it's Arizona at Indianapolis. Love the red and the blue. However, the shadows caused by the, you know, the top being open there at times. It's like, borderline unplayable. It's, yeah, it's not the most pleasant thing.

It's just kind of makes for a weird viewing experience. So like the uniforms, beautiful. Red and blue, great combo. Yeah. shadows anti-bevel my bevel is panthers versus cowboys i love the panthers jersey you know i'm a color rush guy all blue but the panthers had that all black helmet with a stripe you and reed two peas in a pod with that was kind of you like that oh yeah you like that i didn't want to be like like you boys remember he was ross you know my anti bevel oh my god i love color rush stuff all the same

same that's hideous dude and that horrible and rico down maybe it was him he made it look sweet yeah those are killer toting that tater with that what that with that old blue i love that that that look good now black and blue are too they're tough colors to to make work together yeah i don't know how why they're trying shade of blue i think it's too much of that dude dude yeah a black helmet is not the answer to everything dude this to me looks like a helmet that like you have to sign an autograph signing and you're like what the fuck is this helmet. Whatever.

Like, they just made this one. Like, it's like, what the fuck? Uh, how about for a Bevel Kunt? But it's Matt Black. Uh, Falcons, bills are both wearing their throwbacks. Are they both wearing throwbacks? Oh, that's going to be gorgeous. Who's going to do it?

The fact that it's inside. Who's going to do the Dirty Bird tonight then? We'll get there. We'll get there. Uh, you know, so anyways, we got, uh, anti-bevel. Anti-bevel. My anti-bevel is easy. It is Mark Andrews trying to run the tish push.

because it looked terrible and you're lucky the refs called the play down early because you definitely fumbled and the ball should have been going the other way what's even where he ran it twice in a row like that just sucks you get stuffed twice in a row

and the fumble that you know you fumbled ouch yikes anti-bevel I don't know which I mean like New Orleans New England is and I like the New England uniforms and everything

but like it's always tough lighting down there it's always tough lighting down there why wouldn't the jets and the broncos be both in their throwbacks it's such a missed opportunity and then the funniest thing is last night like sometimes after sunday games i'll like i'll have a left hand of siggy and play some madden and these guys are still like finishing their work and i'm like eight and two my last 10 and i play this guy last night and i i play with the broncos and and make the home stadium hot tottenham or wembley and fucking it's randomized right so somebody online like and so we're playing at tottenham i'm the broncos somebody's the jets and i'm like oh god this guy's like a psycho and troy franklin fumbled he was yeah i Troy franklin fumbled it was crazy same spot on the field

guy was belt to ass on me dude i got my ass kicked last night and mad by the jets so bad that i like i actually unmuted myself and was like hey that was a good ass It was crazy. His guys were like on speed. It was because of those uniforms you played in. I picked the wrong uniform. That's what reminded me of it. White lid. Anti-bevel Conway was me playing Madden last night. It was like a shit kicked in, dude. It does look like they look like Al Paso. Texas Al Paso. Yep. Yep. Okay. Best seat. Best seat. We talked about it earlier, but it's, you know, it's kind of a double but tess johnson had the best best seat and worse kind of a worse seat but catching that

MVP and then finding out of yeah that's yeah that's pretty good let's see joe flacco sitting in that passenger seat or driving driving down what 73 south 71 yeah 71 style just being like i just finessed another franchise like it's not really a finesse though he's he's like a handyman you need a handyman you call joe flacco dude mercenary cubis He's a tradesman. Best seed, I don't know. Best seat pains me to say it as a birds fan, but it has to be Giants fans right now. I mean, this is the most hope you've had around that position since.

Yeah. Probably since you drafted Daniel Jones, right? I mean, Galatee. Maybe more. Huffin. Scataboo. Tone setter. Roster isn't there yet, but this thing's starting to take shape.

The Soprano memes around Scatibo and Jackson Dart are incredible. They're hilarious. Oh, the one where he's like, remember me? Yep. And then I don't remember the rest because it's, you know, Spranos, but... All right, worst seat. Worst seat. I got one.

Me at Bush Gardens. Okay, I went to Bush Gardens Friday. Never been on a roller coaster in my life. Oh. Okay, I've been on Space Mountain once, which I guess counts. But I've never been on a roller coaster. And I guess sometimes, like, I'll get the itinerary. It's like one time my friends were like, you want to go to Myrtle Beach?

And I was like, fuck yeah. And we get down there and it's a golf trip and I'm like I don't play golf. What am I doing here? And then like my wife the other day was like, let's take the kids to Bush Gardens for fall break. And I don't go on roller coaster, but I never considered that that's kind of what Bush Gardens is. You had to go on with your son. Bro, we walk in and we go to the first roller coaster without a line. Yeah.

And I'm just like not asking questions, which is a mistake. And we get in line and immediately we strap into this little roller coaster looking car, but it's small. Like my knees are jamming into the front. I'm like, this isn't one of those fucking. Yeah, it is. Lockness Monster is the name of it. Yeah. Dude.

Whiplash? No, we went up 100 feet and I'm like, oh my God, this is a roller coaster. And then we drop. Yeah. And then we go upside down. Yes. And then we went upside down and upside down and upside down. Yes.

And I'm like, are you fucking kidding me, dude? Like, you didn't even warn me, bro? I didn't know I was on a roller coaster until the thing went down, dude. So I'm good on roller coasters, honestly. How many did you have to go on? I went on like three. Yeah. But the problem is like I'm going to end up like Lieutenant Dan on one of them because

fucking you're way too close to stuff. Way too close. And I and they're like, they're not made for people like big like us. Dog, you know what I started to figure out? You feel like you have to duck on some stuff. You know what I figured out? I was like at the combine where I was like trying to like put tissue paper in my arm

to reach higher or whatever that trick I did. I was coming up to the 77 inches thing. And like I was kind of standing on my toes. front of my family to get out of the roller coaster. So then I would like wait outside the fucking... I'm too tall for this one. Yeah, pretty much. You got it.

You got this one. Dog, there are some creatures at amusement parks, dude. You talk about like getting out in public sometimes and seeing the people that you argue with online and being like, hey, online arguments aren't a big deal because you're arguing with these people. Like there are some wild-looking individuals. Broom men in pajama pants. Bro, there are some wild-looking individuals.

individuals at Bush Gardens, dude. I'm not saying everybody, but some of the people, like, legit, I don't know why that's the connection I made, but I was like, you really shouldn't argue with anybody on the internet anymore. It could be that guy. No, I'm not going to lie. Like, it could be the guy you saw Bush Gardens.

Like, stop. I find myself doing that lately, too. When someone leaves, like, a nasty comment or something, I'll be like, before I say something back, I click their profile and see if it's open and I just look at them. Would you argue with them in person? And I'm just, and like, that's what I was saying. Like, I'm like, you know,

what i wouldn't even give you the time of day like in real life it's not because i think i'm better than anybody it's just because like i'm like i'm just very different than what's going on here dude there's people walking around with like 200 ounce sprites it's like it's like a bunch of like people walking around with huge sprites and like punish your t-shirts men and punisher t-shirts dude i'm like oh you fuck this is crazy man i'm good on roller coasters we're seat me two hours in the car both ways dude oh yeah i think my medal ceremonies when i get home tonight beau we're seat we're seat uh being uh part of the colts pregame uh you know warm ups yeah we talked about it a little bit but we got some final destination type shit

happened over there. That's crazy. Ward collided. Dude, if you actually watched that, it was ugly and he was down pretty bad. He actually got K-Oed. Yeah.

It looked like he went stiff, and he was knocked out for like a few seconds. Yeah. I don't know if that was the infancy. Yeah, that was bad. That was bad. Tough.

That was bad. And then obviously the orbital bone from Anthony Richardson, and it's like, what the fuck? That's brutal. Yeah, Final Destination kicked in there. Somebody said Lachnus Monsters, speaking of Final Destination is old as hell,

which I noticed is a 50-year-old roller coaster. So, Jesus. My wife was trying to kill me. Where seat? That's track. Right? Easy. I'm going Jake Browning,

just because, like, you got to feel, at the other day, You guys hired someone and you sat me down for the same results. So that can't feel good having to do that if you're that competitive, even though you should be a team player, even if you don't think the team is that good. But that's definitely the worst seat right now. Which one? Jake Browning.

Oh, and I get it. I see the angst on his face. And I'm like, as a player, you should take it personal, but also like. It's also, but you can't. I don't think, like, as a backup quarterback, like, you got to play well right away if you're a backup. You can't be like... But also, too, would you pout in and everything like that?

The thing that becomes crazy is... Oh, no, we're seeing Brian Branch. Don't wait. Don't mess up. And Joe Flack will get hurt next game, and you've been powing and you're not ready because you might have to get back in there. You might have to get back in there

and help that team win. What about Brian Brands though? And I got a lot of respect for Brian Branch. I think he's a hell of a football player. But, like, if a chief was getting interviewed after the game and was like, Well, I got pushed in the back and they were like, well, what else do they do to you? And you're like, I don't know, some other stuff.

It just wasn't fair. Like, you think people would have killed the guy on the chiefs? Like, that was not a very Detroit lion postgame interview. Like, it was kind of like, it was like when my kids come down from the playroom and one's telling on the other one. Like, you walked all the way down here to tell me, like, handle it your fucking self. You know what I'm saying? Like, that just, that was an awkward one. So maybe that's my hollow man is Brian Branch.

my uh worst seat we talked about a little bit earlier kevin stefansky at the podium over these past few years i mean this quarterback position in the post baker mayfield world has been a complete circus and he's had to sit there at that mic as like the public facing voice of reason i don't know how he does it he's he's totally he could totally justify like a brian kelly lash out in in one of these things oh my god it was just like oh my god that was awful the golly it was awful just just show me the door yeah exactly what i have to do this fly on the wall easy for me is in juju smith's locker after the game while he's on tic-tok and x scrolling damn you really hate juju just watching videos that it's tough to see it's not that i hate him it's just that in the same token like i could see him after he does his little tic-tok dances and taunted people that that's what he's doing he's rushing to the locker room to see hey who caught my dance on the on the logo how many videos over is out like is it going viral yet and now it's just like you got in that sense he's kind of

like us you got popped in your mouth bro but we're not taught in in front of people if we were tawn we would still be taking in NFL videos and playing them oh i just don't draw i just don't draw the connection between guy getting punched in the nose and tick talk i you know came out that branch was suspended for one game without pay oh No, no. That is why we can't do those things. That's why Dan Campbell said we can't do those things, because you're about to play the fucking Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

and your secondary is on its last leg. Go get some bad thing quick. And here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to pick the bucks again this week, and y'all are going to motherfuck me, but I'll say it one more time. I haven't picked the game wrong yet involving the Lions against the spreader straight up.

This is the dumb shit that sinks. his season, bro. Like, so when Dan Campbell's pissed about it, I totally get it. And he said the right thing. Yikes, dude. Fuck. Bad ball. I got to fly on the wall here. You know, we haven't talked about this much at all, but let me to fly on the wall over at UNC. See what's going on with Bill Belichick and that staff. I've been reading a lot of rumblings of some egregious recruiting violations. I think there people are saying that he's angling to get a buyout and trigger that part of his contract. I want to know what's actually going on over there. And then I think I saw a quote from an anonymous quote from someone on that staff saying like

what we're doing to this kids is fucked up. And so I'm going to know what's actually kind of going on behind the scenes there. Apparently he was unreachable during the course of their byweek seems like a little shit show there right now. Bill was unreachable? that's what the anonymous source pretty interesting yeah did they try his girlfriend I was about to say something like that

my fly on the wall I would pay good money to be a fly on the wall for the uh Jerry Jones George Pickens contract negotiations like seeing the just the agent of chaos in the field I can imagine what it's like trying to talk brass tacks with that guy oh my god dude

the man's in his contract He just, like, throws a projector up and, like, him just hurtling people. He's like, get the light, Jerry. Who else does this? Yes, for a billion dollars. I'll take a billion dollars. I'm going to go in there, guys, seen his movie and Dicko. I've seen this in a movie.

Let's start high. Uh-huh. We've got to go after a billion. That's pretty good. I hope he represents himself. Yesterday, when we were watching and that, and Piggins had that catch and run where he held it by the point of the ball, Nolan said, that's reckless behavior on the football field.

Yes. That's totally reckless, dude. Oh, my God. Anything else? Hollow Man, if we have any? Oh, Hollow Man, yeah, I already gave it out to Brian Brantz. That's tough, and it's confirmed by the fact that he can't play football this week. He's such a great player.

It's such a big deal for them, dude. That is a huge deal for them. Huge. My Hollow Man is going to Cam Little, the kicker for my Jags. He missed a field goal. goal, which he usually doesn't do. And then he makes an extra point, which he never does.

He never missed an extra point in his entire life, high school, college, and pros ever until this last game. So, that can't feel good. You just had a perfect street going for something, and you just ended it. Yeah, that sucks.

It does suck. But, you know, kickers. My hollow man, Jamar Chase, raw dog comments. You know he's going to absolutely murder in the locker room for that. Oh, they're fucking he's probably

he's probably like yo, if we don't play well that's about to happen. Yeah. Yeah. So funny it to me.

But it's just the killed part. Like raw dog is cool. Like, yo. What? Like, we're about the,

we're about to get raw dog and kill. Well, yeah, if you just said, if you said, if you said they're going to come in here and kill us.

Like everybody's like, yeah, they're trying to blow them out. But when you're like, but when you're like, but when you put the raw dog with the killing it becomes like a whole different thing dude it's like a yeah it's like a crime to hate crime yeah it's like it's like bro why'd you say this crazy um what are we're what are we

on stil memorial oh uh stel memorial eddie piniero's toes bro his toes are crushed did you see that his little foot did you pull that picture of his tiny little foot next to the fucking i don't know which tackle it was but this guy must have like a size 18 foot and this little kicker in his little glass slipper just got it pull this shit up please hurry up no there it is oh my god it's got to be how fucking small that is it's got to be trained that's unbelievable look at how small his fucking little foot is and it gets stepped on it he just hits the deck and you know the kicker's foot is the size of the swoosh on the guy's cleat yo it's crazy dude it's crazy

And like look at the different size and like leg. So like and that's a regular size motherfucker like look at these behemists, bro. And we get stepped on all the fucking time and it hurts. But this guy got stepped on and you thought he got like shot in the ankle. And I was like, you know what? It makes a lot of sense because he doesn't he's not a football player. He doesn't feel pain all the time. Like this is something that suddenly he's like, oh my God, this is what it feels like. That foot is from a 511 190 pound man. size man and so the other what are your specs uh i know you're six foot six one six one six one six one yeah man you add that inch i don't pay attention to people's heights no i know it's like height blindness for me six foot one one okay no i got you at six six foot i appreciate that i won't i won't refute that are you five eleven damn i'm a five tenor damn i don't even think of you that way you see but see dudes that are under six they don't it doesn't become a problem until like and it's not even a problem no but like if you're like five seven five eight like then you're sort of smaller guy yeah but you can still be cool as fuck and be five seven yeah we don't have the right five seven guys in here

yeah we're just Tanner are you five 11 yeah five 11 and some change cap and some change bro everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone everyone's cap it on their high I don't cap on their high I don't cap on my height. I go 6.3 and 3 ace. I've always given my combine night. People are like, just round up the 4. Stay humble. How about that?

I'm closer to 6 foot than 511, but I'm the same. Size 14. All right. So what's next? Game ball. Oh, game ball. Oh, game ball. You guys go first.

Game ball is going to, my guy, Nate Landman. He's bald. From the Rams. He had 17 tackled. You got Tom Brady's game ball. Broke a record for the Rams in a single game tackles. Yeah, since like 2000.

It's crazy. 17 is a lot. You know, I kind of want to give the award to Baker Mayfield. You know, just with everything. And I'm sure Bo's looking at me like he was going to give it to Baker. No, I get Baker my game ball last week. Can't do two in a row. Oh, okay.

Well, he's just going to be getting some game balls because there's just some guys on the field that nobody expected to be on the field. Bo, who you got? You know, I had one. I kind of want to change it now. But, like, Drake May, dude. He's fucking, I really liked him. I like him. I'm in on him.

I'm like, I'm a hater, especially young quarterbacks. He's fucking tight. I'm in. I'm going tight. Rico Daddle, revenge game. Game ball. That's awesome. All right.

Let's look at Monday night real quick. I have a concern. I have a concern. I think the Washington commanders win the game. I think Jaden Daniels, God, the whole internet discourse thing about young quarterbacks. But like we get to see fucking Caleb and Jaden on the same field. That's great.

And hopefully it doesn't come down to a Hail Mary. But I think this is going to go to the commander's way. And then I think the bills win it, but I think it's going to be ugly at times. It's just one of those things where I got a sense that like sometimes after Josh plays a game like that where he gets beat up physically like I wonder what the lingering effects of those hits are last week. I'm not putting a concussion on him as some people have tried to do with their favorite quarterbacks this year. I'm just saying that was a physical fucking football game and Atlanta what they have is they've got a hell of us. They got two really good safeties.

And so like you think about like teams that can defend the bills and make and make Josh. earn every inch on the field like they're a team like that they're going to have to run the fucking football and be patient bills uh favored by three and a half points tonight the total hence the line being 50 where it is yeah 50 points hence the line being where it is so you know and the other thing is like falcons run game is a nightmare falcons are like one of the least understood teams in the league and i'm hand up i'm one of the people i don't get who they are yet but this is one of those games we'll find out. And then in the other game,

commanders favored by five and a half. Total in that one's 49 and a half. Commander's Bears. You got an anytime touchdown you want to. Vegas thinks that there's going to be a lot of points tonight. Anytime touchdown. Let's go. I mean, if anything.

I got one. I would keep it going out. Give one out, dude. Zach hurts. Anytime. No catches last week. First time in like 10 years. Oh, that's interesting.

I'm going with McCaffrey. um okay hold on a second let me think here um bill bill bill bill i like the long shot guys you know i like the long shot guys i like uh i got a long shot for you has ray davis or i thought i could put in a ray davis or tie johnson a little wheel route a wheel route to either Yeah, I like to put in something like that A long shot. Or how about What do you think of Reggie Gilliam

A cold commit? Nice little tight end. Yeah. A little tight end of. Well, hey, that's that. A little marathon today. Thank you for sticking with us. But, you know,

a lot to talk about. We love y'all. Appreciate you guys hanging in. And I hope you all enjoy the games tonight. Todd Johnson plus 5,000 first tutty, Ray Davis plus 8,000. Anytime touchdown, Ty Johnson's plus 800. Ray Davis is plus 900.

I'll put both of those in for like half a unit. So last night I had Jared Gough first touchdown. Oh, you. Brutal. Oh, brutal. Okay, but I also had worthy first touchdown. See, I play first touchdowns like five. I put five in.

Oh, okay. I put five. and I skipped the running backs because you get the longer odds on like certain guys so I had like worthy and like but golf I was like when I put golf and I was like wouldn't it be crazy if we had a QB sneak

and they fucking roll up all they had to do was sneak it in and they do that bullshit they do that shit goes to Ben Johnson there all right y'all take care