Green Light with Chris Long - Beau Allen! MNF Review & Gambling Woes.

Episode Date: October 26, 2022

(2:26) - Chris' MNF Fridge Talk. (7:03) - MNF Gambling Woes & Beau will earn it back in Vegas. (17:51) - MNF Recap: Bears Surprise Patriots, NE's QB Controversy and Justin Fields Improvement. (39:44) ...- Chris and Beau Pass Out a Few Miller Lite Mentions! Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:47 And in Michigan, 1-800-2707-1-17. Tennessee, y'all 2. 1-8009-9-7-89. Welcome to the Greenlight Podcast. It's another trench talk with Bo Allen. We're going to go in-depth on the Monday night football game. The quarterback controversy that now is going to plague New England and how the Bears have the Patriots on their heels from the jump.
Starting point is 00:01:17 You're also going to hear Chris's Fridge Talk from Monday night after that game. A couple bad bets. He'll detail those with Bo. Inge Bo an opportunity win some money back in Vegas in our upcoming Greenlight trip. Y'all take care. make sure that you stay tuned for Chris and Kyle later this afternoon, 2 o'clock, greenlight feed.
Starting point is 00:01:39 We're going to have a good little bit of fun. And then Thursday, 4.30 p.m. on the AMP app. We'll be live and rocking. Y'all come join us. Vegas is my daddy. And I'm man enough to say it. You know, all the house monies have exited the building. There's no more house money.
Starting point is 00:02:36 And that was never my money at all. Okay. This is a live look at a broken man here over the last 48. Just all down the drain. 99-yard drive. Seven week-long drive. Been driving the ball for seven fucking weeks. Been driving the ball for 49 days.
Starting point is 00:02:53 And I throw it off the back of a fat fucking O. Leibund's helmet. And it goes for a pick six. That's how I feel right now. So this is an authentic look at a broken man. Do you don't need to call the hotline? Hotline's right here. Okay, but the good news is money has no inherent value.
Starting point is 00:03:12 It's a social construct. Live to see another day, I guess. Justin Fields says in my notes, because I brought notes in the freezer here. And it says in my notes, talk about Justin Fields. Yeah. How could I not for the rest of my life? Fucking guy, I've been on his bandwagon,
Starting point is 00:03:33 clinging on that thing. So I can just in case this ever happens, be like, yeah, I knew it. I knew it. But that doesn't make me any fucking money. In fact, he owes me an undisclosed amount of money now. If I see Justin Fields, I'm going to remind him of what he did in my family tonight. Speaking of my family, wife walks him, sitting on the couch subjected, of course.
Starting point is 00:03:55 You know, 24 hour rule. We'll flush it. But like, she's like, yeah, you probably lost some money, huh? I was like, don't really want to talk about it. She's like, how much? I was like, don't really want to disclose. And she put her hand on my shoulder. and she's like, you know, who's the real loser, Chris?
Starting point is 00:04:10 You might have lost some money, but I lost a tennis match tonight. And you know what? I thought about it. And I'm coming around on that. I think she's the real loser. Because I'm not the only loser. Vegas is my daddy. Vegas is a lot of your daddies.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Vegas is a tribe of many. It's a family of many children. And it's like a polygamist group. You're part of the group, chances are. And if you weren't part of the group and you're a sharp and you bet the bears, all of a sudden you went about your fucking lifetime 55% gambler. It's coming for you too now. So you'll join.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I'll see you later. I'll see you at family dinner. I'll see at the family dinner. Just not this week. Maybe it's not this week. It'll be down the line. You know, some of you snide bears betters. You fucking did the thing.
Starting point is 00:05:04 You did the thing. Good for you. But you'll have a night like tonight. And just remember when you have a night like tonight that money is a social construct, it's all about the people that love you and your health and things like that. So I'm going to give my wife the password to my win bet account now. Every deep playoff run starts with building an amazing team. Doing the same for your business doesn't take a room full of scouts.
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Starting point is 00:07:09 with the guys in the studio what I had riding on the game, but you, you saw, I had, I texted you so that there was an institutional memory of just how much, are you chewing gum? It's actually caffeine gum, Chris. Can you tell? Yeah, you could really use some caffeine gum. I got caffeine gum and some zins here. I'm about to be fucking rolling for this pot. Sorry, go ahead, keep going. Speaking of that, I wonder if we have any zin laying around. I could use some nicotine. I, um, I sent you a text message with the five to six bets that I had on the paths last night. I was in Chase mode. Who you heard in that video is not Chris Long. That's Chase Long. That's Chase Long. That's Chase Long made those bets. Chase Long did that fridge talk. Chris Long woke up this morning and stared at the
Starting point is 00:08:00 fucking ceiling for 40 minutes. I woke up this morning. It was overcast out. I think that's what it's like when you don't want to get out of bed. Is this an intervention? Chris. No, no, no, no, no, no. We're good. We're good. I'm not addicted because I can stop. I haven't, I haven't gambled all day.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I bet you can get you gambling by the end of the day, Chris. No, I don't think so. The problem is, you know, it was a bad, bad weekend, Bo. And this is what will happen to you sometimes. And Meg was great last night, as you heard in the, in the video. Like, get you a wife who walks in and respects your, bank role as your bank roll, right? Because I earn that bank roll. It's my right to piss it away. You know, it's my right to set that pile of cash on fire. Ironically, trusting the greatest coach
Starting point is 00:08:53 of all time against the least accurate quarterback in the fucking league last night, dude, in the league. So I guess the question is, and this is, this day is going to go down in infamy. What day is it? October 24th was last night. I won't be placing bets on October. 24th ever again. I'm also going to take off 11-8 because if you guys remember in 2020, a giant bet I lost
Starting point is 00:09:18 when I put a bunch of money on Tampa, Chase Long put a bunch of money on Tampa. On Sunday night football, they got waxed 38 to 3 by the Saints. That was brutal. But the same day, I bet the fucking Ben Danucci.
Starting point is 00:09:35 I bet against Ben Danucci. Wasn't that what happened, Reed? is Ben Danucci and he was a stealer? Or was he a cowboy? Cowboy. Yeah, it's all mixed up in my head. It was just a factory of sadness. Three hours staring at the TV, screaming at Ben Danucci.
Starting point is 00:09:50 You know, big money line bet. Chase Long, he likes to pile on the risk when he's down. You know, like really big, risky, seemingly safe bets. I texted a few of my friends in New England. Are they going to be okay tonight? Yeah, this feels like a Bears quit game. I got 23 to 11. I got, I heard all types of shit.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Niko, that must have been Niko, huh? He might have been one of them. But it's not like I blame Niko. I blame Chase Long. And you ought to be careful, Bo, because you want to start gambling. This is how it happens. This is where it ends. I said in the video, you don't need to call the hotline.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I am the hotline. Well, you're Chase Long. I'm going to be Earn, Earn Allen, Ernie Allen, because I'm going to be earning that, baby. Come on. I mean, you need me to play some best for you on 11-8. I got you, Earn Allen. Yeah, 11-8, I might let you ghost gamble for me. Yeah, I love that.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Let's do it. Honestly, though, I kind of understand why some degenerates love it. Like, I still loved losing that money last night. Yeah, because you feel something, you know? Either way. You feel something. Yeah. We're all dead inside, Chris.
Starting point is 00:11:00 You know, winter wins. Exactly. You just want the emotional rush. That's exactly what I was going to say. And the worst part was, I didn't even put this in the video. My mom was over. last night. She came back in town and like sat with me and watched a football game. We haven't watched a football game in a while. And she was kind of like, man, you really are
Starting point is 00:11:16 irresponsible. It took her that long to figure that out. She didn't figure that out at New Year's Eve, a fucking tavern on broad back in 2018. When Khalil Herbert went in on a fucking on that on that little pump screen to basically to kill, because I had the first half, I had first half money line. I had first half minus five. It was excruciating. The Bailey Zappy second quarter, I will always fondly remember. So much dopamine.
Starting point is 00:11:46 You know, wherever dopamine goes in your body, I had a lot of it. And I was just, I was on tilt. And after that first quarter where every play I was going, oh no, oh no. The second quarter was blissful. And it was sandwiched between two of the worst periods of football viewing I've ever experienced in my life.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Bailey Zappy. He's a piece of, baloney between two fucking dry pieces of bread and the sandwich tastes like shit and it came out bad on the other end okay because now all the the house money is gone and beau you saw how much money that was we're going to move on in a second but i just had to vent a little bit it was a lot enough to be bummed about you know but definitely especially when you when you realize i lost that sunday too yeah well thankfully thankfully earn hell is going to bring that all back for you okay and we We've got a fun little company trip coming up to Vegas.
Starting point is 00:12:36 So let's not forget about that too. Lots of earning potential for the boys. Can I tell people about the company trip coming up? So in November, I got to go to Vegas. You know, I go to Vegas for the win. Wonderful people, sponsors of this pod. There are a certain amount of activations I have to go do. Take you behind the curtain.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Oh, you got to go to Vegas for work. I fucking, I don't look at gift horse in the mouth all the time. Sometimes I'm like, oh, Vegas is a long way. but it's exciting to go to Vegas for work. It times up that my buddy Sam Bradford has a birthday that week and he, my lovely wife. Hold on a second. Chris, you have another buddy that has a birthday that week too.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I know. I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. Motherfucker. So, so, so Sam had a birthday first. Okay. Sam has a birthday. Sam and I like to go to the win.
Starting point is 00:13:28 We like to gamble. We like to, we like to hang out. We like to take the lovely wives and we do. and we had this all planned out. And I was like, listen, I don't have to do much for work. Then Bo calls me a week later. And he's like, hey, heard you going to Vegas in November.
Starting point is 00:13:42 I think I want to go to Vegas. And it's your boy's birthday. So I'm thinking we do a big birthday thing. So this is kind of like a curbier enthusiasm situation. I'll invite myself to anything, Chris. I basically invited myself on your podcast on a permanent basis. So here we are. But the best part is that it's not just like, yo, I'm coming to Vegas.
Starting point is 00:14:02 you know, I know you have like a nice clean double date set up for Vegas, but I'm going to be the fifth wheel and it's going to be my birthday. So Sam's going to be trying to have like a nice quiet birthday dinner. Bo's going to be sitting a table over and request fucking some cake and they're going to sing to him. Ice cream cake. Dary Queen ice cream cake. Drop that down. Win. We're going to be a Delilah's. What time you go on to Delilah's? I'm a Sapphire's guy in, uh, in Vegas, Sapphire. What is Sapphire? What is Sapphire? Oh, I'll show you. Sapphire.
Starting point is 00:14:35 So are you bringing a lovely lady, Bo? Are you just going to fit for it? To be determined. And Rata might be in that. Yeah, you're right. I'll be there. We will see, Chris, to be determined. I'm sure we have a lot of lovely listeners of this podcast.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Submit your applications on greenlight.com backslash. Oh, that's good. Can you D. if you want to go to Vegas with Bo, you know, it's getting cold outside. But it's good to have somebody to hold on to, you know, especially if he's a big hulking man, you know, he's got a lot of hair. He's got facial hair. He's a warm weather boo. I've also lost like 55 pounds in the last year. Just note that, drop that down, ladies. But he's still a warm weather boo thing. It's kind of like being a growing up a point guard and then hitting a gross burden, being 610. It's the best of both worlds. It's like he's the webbing yama. Plus I was fat growing up, so I'm funny now, which is important too. honestly think about the the perfect storm that created beau allen he could be yours for one weekend in
Starting point is 00:15:37 los vegas dm greenlight we're we're doing a vagus and we're just i'm just we're just whoring me out really leaning into the vegas yeah why don't we hire a working girl for the weekend this is a family podcast come on no it's not no it's not some guy in their car with this on we just got some we just got done talking about gambling now we're talking about escorts and of it. Just a true NFL experience. Well, honestly, no, it's not. Honestly, think about it. We could get a real classy gal to show up Friday, go to dinner with you, blow out the candles. I mean, she could even sit at the table with Sam, myself, and our lovely wives. We'll see, Chris. Who says no, Bo? Who says no to this deal? Hopefully not. I'm ready. Okay, so we're going to Vegas. And we're not going to gamble.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Is that? No, it's not 118. It's not. If we were going 118, I have to get the trip move. I want the day that we'll live in infamy. I want your lovely life, Magda, throw some dice on the craps table with us. You know, you know she will. She's got a little man's complex. So she's going to be out there gambling loud at the tables, yelling at the die.
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Starting point is 00:17:36 where win bet is available gambling problem in arizona call 1 800 next step in colorado indiana new jersey and virginia call 1 800 gambler and in michigan 1 800 270717 tennessee y'all 2 1 800 889 9789 so here's the thing last night bow i'm going to ask you what you thought up front and what happened to the pads because number one gray pants probably have to go. And that's a big shame because I thought that the, the, the, the, the pants, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the new, new joints. They look like perpetual Thursday night football. They, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, probably, probably, probably, probably
Starting point is 00:18:19 never going to go back to these motherfuck. So that's shame number one. Shame number two. Belichick warned us about the bears. Yeah. I mean, he told us they were good, and we were like, he's just messing around. I might want to listen to the greatest coach of all time and he gives you an in-depth scouting a report on a team that ends up beating him on Monday night football, you know? I mean, he warned us. And the Patsky, he warned the Pats probably,
Starting point is 00:18:45 and they got fucking jumped. That's the best way I could put it. Like, early in this game, they got jumped. And I want to give Getsy a lot of credit, the O.C in Chicago, because that game plan, well, they might have run some of the same things. they had a lot of really nice wrinkles like a ghost motion counter with the quarterback,
Starting point is 00:19:03 that sort of thing. You had you move the pocket with them early. You had that slick little screen in the red zone. Some good RPO's. You're RPOs. You use play action. But the bottom line is they came out attacking. And I bet you Bill told,
Starting point is 00:19:16 and we've both been coached by Bill Belichick, right? I think this was a tailor-made situation that Bill walks into the room and says, guys, we are going to suffocate the run game and we will not lose this game. We're going to make Justin Fields beat us. We're going to play zone because we don't want people turning their back to the defense. Because you see how fast and athletic he is. We're going to rush with integrity. A rush lanes are going to be good.
Starting point is 00:19:40 None of those things fucking happen, dude. It just did not play out the way on the defensive side of the ball because people are going to look at the Mac Jones thing and the zappie thing. And they're going to be disappointed. And they're going to say, like, what's your plan? Which we'll talk about in a second. But the defense was what you thought you could hang your fucking hat on. Right. And they got absolutely jumped.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And there's been a lot of buzz about, you know, the Patriots offense, exactly what you just said. Like, you know, defensive coaches with Patricia and Bill calling the plays. But you'd expect the defense for the Patriots to do a lot better. And it's, I think it really boils down to what you said, Chris. Fields played a hell of a game, man. And you mentioned it earlier and you're talking about your gambling woes. You know, one of the most inaccurate pastors in the league. But he was, his decision making was good.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And he was throwing some good balls. But more importantly, like, he was so dangerous on his. feet. And I thought they did a really good job of crafting up. Um, quarterback design quarterback runs in critical moments, uh, for fields like, you know, the first touchdown of the game on that quarterback keep was like a sweep outside zone type play. And then there's another third and five where they just, you know, direct snap to him. And he took it and picked it up. But I think he picked up probably like there was a third and 14 that he picked up on his feet too. That was really nice. And, uh, you know, that there was another
Starting point is 00:20:55 third and six where there's kind of a botch snap that he, he picked up. up. So I think they really didn't do a bad job against the run game. They kind of got bled a little bit just throughout the course of the game with, you know, some six yard runs and stuff like that. But the real dangerous runner was Fields. And he's, well, he, he, he, he's a weapon, dude. He's an absolute weapon. You talked about the most disappointing thing watching that game slip away was third down. Yeah. You know, and you talked about it. There was a play early in that game. You know, like they didn't get the ball run up their ass traditional. right. But what did happen is early in the game when you got jumped and the offense was moving the
Starting point is 00:21:34 ball and you knew they came to play and your offense was pinned against the goal line. They received the kick. I don't know who won the toss. I mean it's probably Chicago and they elected to defer or whatever. But this is what I'm afraid of. You know, Mack Jones trots out there. He's on a high ankle, which is a real motherfucker to play with. Okay. So he's been out a little bit now. That thing's still biting. like usually those are four to six weeks right now. He did look kind of mobile though, but I'm with you. Like those are motherfuckers to play on. But he was he was not afraid to scramble.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I think, I mean, he probably got what, like four series total? And I think on third down a couple times like he was trying to pick up, pick up the first down with his feet and it didn't look, I mean, it didn't look horrible. Like you've seen guys that are. Pretty much the only pretty much the only thing he did all night was kick a guy in the deck. I know. That was, that was. That was.
Starting point is 00:22:21 That was Brady. You see that slide? Brady's been doing that for a year. man, no one ever picks up on that, but that's such a rap move. I mean, I kind of love it, but I also kind of hate it. You know, it's one of those things where it's like,
Starting point is 00:22:34 it's just such a motherfucker move, you know, any of their quarterbacks. But, but you know, you mentioned it. I mean, there's a lot of third downs.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And then, like, for me, it was, I don't know if you remember this play, but they were in the red zone. I think they were down three nothing. And Montgomery, um,
Starting point is 00:22:49 gets the ball. And he gets tackled. I mean, Judon's got him dead to rights at like the five yard line or a seven yard line. he just keeps churning. I thought he was down. I lost him in the pile.
Starting point is 00:23:00 He goes down to the two yard line. There's guys standing around that pile. Like there's guys who don't know whether to push the pile or to jump on the pile. And there's DBs just kind of like relaxing. And in that moment, as the bears appear to, you know, pardon the cliche, won it more. You realize, oh, shit is real like tonight. And if you're a member of the Pat's defense, you're like, we got to be perfect from here on out and they weren't and on third down you talked about it whether they were rushing three
Starting point is 00:23:30 and and the lanes were off whether it was in the second half they come out that third and five you mentioned they they got pullers out there on third and five i love that call i mean like that's smart football man that's smart by the by the bears this little jalen hers hurts ask too you know just he's quarterbacks are so dangerous mobile quarterbacks and fields is a big player too like he's like 240 or something like that, but he's kind of long too, and he can move well. I thought that was a great play call. Well, honestly, I had, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:02 I'm looking at that play and I'm thinking, he really puts you in a bind on third and five. The weather's bad. You're like probably thinking, hey, we got to watch for quarterback run and some of this stuff. They've done some of these things this year. And you got to decide whether you want to be out there in sub or not, right? You got to be, you got to decide whether
Starting point is 00:24:18 you want big people in the field or not. There was a third and 14, I think, where they had big people in the field. I don't know it was third and 14, but oh, it's third and six out of the half. And they got big, they got big guys on the field and he scrambles, um, because, because the guys that are trying to run flat and beat him to the line of scrimmage or the
Starting point is 00:24:37 first down marker are big guys. You know, so it really puts coaches in a bind, especially in a weather game when you're like, yeah, they'll fuck around and run the ball on third and medium. And I should have known, dude,
Starting point is 00:24:47 all these third downs were backbreaking. Even the ones like he would fumble the snap. Exactly. You know, he fumbled one time and, and actually came up. with his own fumble. They got lucky a couple times.
Starting point is 00:24:57 You know, there was another time he fumbled. Judon's trying to, trying to rush the edge. He bails out of the back of the pocket. The big guys are running. They're not fast enough. It's just a disaster. But I said this week one,
Starting point is 00:25:07 and I should have known, the fucking, I said this out loud on this show. The bears are a rain team. I said, I said like they just went when it's nasty out, because it was San Francisco and they elevated and beat the dog shit out of San Francisco
Starting point is 00:25:23 in a lot of spot. in that game. They just look like a rain team. Some are the Patriots, there are, there is no football team in the world that practices outside and inclement weather
Starting point is 00:25:33 more than the New England Patriots. Believe me, you should know that. I swear it is always overcast. There's something about Foxborough. We're like last night, the conditions of last night, that's like 80% of the time in Foxborough.
Starting point is 00:25:45 There's some sort of weird weather phenomenon where that's just, that's just what it is, you know? Well, just think about it, man. Just think about this. Like all these things that, whether you're gambler, you're trying to handicap that game.
Starting point is 00:25:55 You're just watching the game. You're like, okay, Belichick, inaccurate quarterback. You know, you've got two rookie tackles. You have two rookie corners on the field for the Bears. It's raining, right? All this stuff. You get your quarterback back. And this is how fucking, this is what an anomaly last night was.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I don't think I've ever seen a game where a quarterback took such a big step forward. Agreed. On such a big stage. So I'm really happy. for Justin Fields as a smoke clears. My 24-hour rule is almost over. And, you know, like I said, I'm going to pat myself in the back on this because I'll tell you when I'm wrong about something.
Starting point is 00:26:34 If Justin Fields turns out to be this guy, I don't know that there are too many people left on the bandwagon. And I have never gotten off the bandwagon on Justin Fields because it's too tantalizing, man. His physical abilities, what he did last night, you know, I don't want to say Josh Allen's name in the same sentence, but do you remember when people were down on Josh Allen, right it wasn't he you know this guy's not the natural thrower that josh allen was but you know if you can lean into his strengths and develop him and and build an offense around him fuck he's scary dude one thing i want to mention too about the patriots defense i think kyle dougar got injured and he's a that was big
Starting point is 00:27:10 he's a you know a really talented athlete he's been playing really well that safety position and then a jane phillips went down late in that game too which is you know those are two crucial positions in a game like that. So I think that might have been a factor as well. Well, talk to me about this, Bo. Do you think Mac Jones should have got booed? And do you feel like, do you feel like that was the right move? If you're on the sideline there, how do you feel about them flip-flopping quarterbacks and what you heard from Bill in the in post-game? I mean, you can't really expect Bill to comment too much on that, just, you know, knowing who he is and how he treats the media. But here's a thing, Chris, you know this. You know this about me. I'm a
Starting point is 00:27:47 hater. I love to hate. And so I'd be the first one to shit on, you know, oh, fucking boo this quarterback. And I love hating quarterbacks, too, just like everybody else. But as a noseguard, a defensive line, you don't get any love. So anytime, you know, you get these prima don'tona quarterbacks and it's kind of, I love, you know, them getting hate on. And I say all that to basically say, I don't think it was the right move to boo him at all. This is your first round, you know, a young quarterback who's, you know, kind of got the keys to the franchise who led the team to a playoff, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:19 birth to the playoffs last, last season. It's coming off a high ankle. High ankle injuries are tough. Those things linger, man. And it's, I'm sure he's been grinding,
Starting point is 00:28:27 trying to get back doing everything he can, doing everything right. And he's getting booed after like, you know, a couple series in Foxborough, which is really one of the most electric places to play, in my opinion. Like I,
Starting point is 00:28:40 I, you know, unfortunately never played there as a, as a New England Patriot, but I've played there multiple times in the atmosphere is really, it's a great football atmosphere. So kind of disheartening to see, in my opinion, because, I mean, I was a little kind of surprised by it, but then when you think about it, more like, you know, why is that surprising? Well, it's not surprising. They haven't dealt with
Starting point is 00:29:00 adversity like this as a fan base. I mean, it's just like, why, why boo a guy? Why, why are you trying to, you know, take the wind out of his sales before you can even really get going on a primetime game after coming back from injury? If he's not wrecked by this, at least in the short term, He's a pretty mentally tough kid because it's hard, man. It's hard to, I've never heard booze. Like I've heard booze when I jumped off sides or whatever, but like not at like, you know, we don't know what that's like. And I'm sure leading up to the game, he's knowing like in his head,
Starting point is 00:29:32 there's like a storm going on, dude. Right. He's thinking about I got to be healthy. I got to be my best. It's raining. It's just the most inopportune time to make my return. The only thing I can hang my hat on is that the Bears defense hasn't been that great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:45 You go out there, you get jumped, your defense gets jumped, and all of a sudden your game plan kind of goes out the window. And all of a sudden, you're hearing booze. Yeah, like everything you just outlined, that kid, the one, the first year you don't have Tom Brady, the guy falls into your lap and the offense is pretty good. And the guy's fighting back from an ankle injury. And this would, yeah, Philly would never is all I'm going to say.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah. Philly would never. I know Philly would, but not, not like that early. I don't think. I just think it was the the Bailey Zappy effect, man. Like people get really out over their skis a little bit with young quarterbacks and with people that that pop in and play pretty well in spot starts. Or just it's like a pleasant, it's such a pleasant surprise.
Starting point is 00:30:30 It's hard to not get juiced up about it. We talked about this a little bit, but there's some sort of weird energy phenomenon, Chris, where, you know, they boo, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:40 they boo, you know, they boo Mac Jones. They put in Zappie. and then, you know, he has all those completions. And then there's a busted coverage and a long ball. You know what I mean? And it's just kind of crazy how that. And it's not even a good throw.
Starting point is 00:30:52 No, it's not a good throw, but it's crazy how that works out. I don't think I'm doing a good job of verbalizing this, but like where you can almost feel this kind of like palpable energy where and it something like that happens. And it's just like, that's football, man. I don't really know how to describe it exactly. I'll tell you what is the fucking force of the universe. Exactly. It's like a collective will of everybody.
Starting point is 00:31:12 And the team looks so, like, gassed up when Zappy, you know, comes in to just make a change like that can kind of energize your team, which is, can be a tangible, you know, palpable thing. But it's so crazy to just see the, you know, the force of, of a small change like that. And then it just kind of works out for that brief, you know, those brief little two or three series or whatever when Zappi was born. And it's there's something, I don't know, there's something there, man. And we've all felt that in, in, in, uh, in, in 2017, 2018. It's just, it's crazy how that works out. Well, I'll say this. And I don't want to oversimplify it,
Starting point is 00:31:48 but they can run more of the stuff that Joe, Judge, and Matt Patricia want to run was Zappi under center. And I mean that under center, like, more often than Mac Jones. And Mac Jones, you know, like, you're not going to be able to get as much as your play action going. They ran a lot more play action. They highlighted it last night.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I think it was 15% the first two weeks. And then weeks three through five, and he was 35%. And the two balls that he hit, that Zappy hit when he got in the game, were play action shots. Okay, and as you outline the first one to Jacoby Myers, like he has to turn around to catch that ball. I mean, that should be a walking in touchdown. Okay, so I'm not down in Zappy.
Starting point is 00:32:24 I personally don't think the answer's in the building for them. Like, I don't think, I don't know that the answer is in the building for these guys. But I could be wrong. You know, I've been wrong before. The sample size is too small. The New England picture. The shot to Devante Parker was also play action. So you got to involve play action with the way this team's built.
Starting point is 00:32:42 and I just don't know if they can get to as much of it with Mac Jones. So I don't know what they're thinking. I don't know what they're thinking. Go ahead. No, I was just going to, I mean, if we're transitioning, there's a couple other funny things. I thought it was really funny. At one point, Joe Buck, I think it was Buck,
Starting point is 00:32:57 said something along lines, man, I'd love to put a heart rate monitor on Bill Belichick right now, see what his heart rate is. And then the camera cuts to Bill on the sideline. And his heart rate was probably 45. He was just deadpan, just, you know, another day at the office, like not a single experience. brushing on his face. So I was wondering if you caught that, but I, that made me chuckle,
Starting point is 00:33:17 you know, pretty hard watching that from the couch. What made me chuckle was Peyton Manning and somebody sent me this when they're 33 to whatever it was. I kind of just fucking shut down. So I wasn't paying attention. But, but they were about to go in and score if they didn't take a knee and Peyton's up there on the Manning cast like go and score. You get a chance to put up 40 in Foxborough. You do it. And it was. It was like he was, he was living through. Justin Fields, bro. It was crazy how Gillette kind of deflated to, like, you know, the team. But the energy in the stadium just feel like it went out later.
Starting point is 00:33:52 And I thought I saw someone from the Bears, I think maybe one of their linebackers commented about that. Or I saw that in the media too. But I thought that was very interesting because you wouldn't expect, you know, the Bears to kind of silence a stadium like that and Monday Night Football and, you know, Fall and Foxboro. And then one other thing I want to talk about, too, is just I don't know if I've ever on that, there's a pick late. I don't know if I think it was a fourth quarter. And Mike Pinell, who's a noseguard, you know, got a unsportsman like conduct for like a blindside block on Patriot Center, David Andrews.
Starting point is 00:34:25 And he got ejected after that. I don't know if I've ever seen that. Oh, wow. I didn't see that boy. He got ejected. I don't know if I've ever seen it. And I'm sure he's got a hefty fine coming. And his own head coach said, you know, that was kind of dirty football.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Was it? Let me see. I don't think it was necessarily. Like it was definitely like he cleaned his clock pretty good. And, you know, Dave, David Andrews was down after that. And he's being evaluated for a head injury. So I hope he's all right. But it was kind of one of those blocks for his back against his own, you know, goal line.
Starting point is 00:34:54 So it's a blindside block. But he, I mean, he got it. You remember back in the day when the, where you get a screen pass of the deliming and the interior, you know, like guard would peel back on you and just what you wouldn't see it coming and kind of smash you. It was one of those. Is that dirty? Is that dirty? I don't think it was. guy, but I don't think it, you know, I don't think it was like purposefully like,
Starting point is 00:35:15 well, there was a time in football. There was a time in football when, when it was like, as soon as there's an interception, you run and assault the quarterback. Exactly. Yes. And that would never, that would be flagged. You try to fuck the quarterback up. And you can't do, you can't even breathe on it anymore.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I remember late in my career, like after picks, I would just go up and kind of like, I was afraid to hit the quarterback. The line judge would come fine, you back, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was a coaching point early in the NFL, like, go get the quarterback. And but I just thought this is day this isn't a quarterback. This is David Andrews. I know big man.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I mean, he got him pretty good, but I've never, I don't think I'd ever seen that. And I'm sure like, you know, an ejection. It's not dirty at all to me.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Like the ball handler is right in front of him. Like he has to block Andrews. Right. And it's kind of the closest guy to you if you're nose guard. Like that center is kind of right there. I know what the, I know what the result of this play is. But what do you think hurts a lot more?
Starting point is 00:36:07 Is it? And maybe Andrew's head hitting the ground. is it, but was it the chip on Michael Parsons from Lenin's Fordette, not to bring that up again, or this? What's more dangerous? I mean, I kind of actually was, I was thinking about that too, and I saw it and, you know, talking about it. It's, it's kind of, I feel like it's kind of all in the same vein. But those are the ones, I mean, the ones that get you the worst are the ones that you don't really see, you know, and I think that's kind of what both of them are. No question. The hardest I ever got hit was by Rashad Jennings in the high school state
Starting point is 00:36:35 championship. Rashad Jennings played 10 years in the league as a huge running back. He was the same weight as me. He laid me the fuck out. I didn't see him coming. They hurt. They hurt. But, you know, I don't know. I'm kind of surprised that guy
Starting point is 00:36:47 got ejected. I was commiserating with my refrigerator at that point. So the fridge is like, come on, get it over with me. I got some cookies in here for you. Make it feel better. So anyways, I don't know if they're benching
Starting point is 00:37:01 Mac Jones for real. I don't know what's going on. But like, that's enough on a damn football game like that. I mean, that's just, that was gross. But if you're a Bears fan, not so gross. And they're one of these teams that you look up, like the Panthers. The Panthers aren't in the class of the Seahawks. They're not even in the class of the bears, I don't think. But these are three teams that I'm just off the top of my head are like a game out, dude. There are three
Starting point is 00:37:26 games between two teams with a winning record, I think, this weekend. And I'm not positive about that, but I think I looked earlier. And I don't think there's a bunch of two winning teams playing each other in the NFL right now. It's just too muddied up. So it's pretty interesting. It's going to be buckle up. I don't even know how to bet these fucking games. We got Ravens bucks Thursday night. The bucks are in trouble. The best moments in a sports fan's life are in football season. I'm not talking about September. I'm not talking about the first week in October. I'm not even talking about the second week in October. I'm talking about when it gets colder, the temperature drops, the games get bigger, the hits get harder, and you can curl up and watch some meaningful football. I like
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Starting point is 00:39:55 I mean, we know I'm still back down here in Tampa Bay and talk to a lot of my friends that are playing for the bucks. And, you know, sometimes you give your buddy shit after a tough loss. I didn't say anything to the guys because I know that that's. losing to Carolina Panthers, you know, 21 to 3 on the road with a roster as talented as the bucks. And, you know, the greatest football player of all time is truly, truly a head scratcher. So I know that there are some tight, tight butt holes walking around one buck facility right now. So they got the Ravens coming out to Tampa on Thursday night. And that is going to be a, you know, a real, real, I mean, I don't want to say must win, but I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. let me ask you this. If you're Todd Bowles, how are you feeling right now? Because it's like, fuck, dude. You know, it's, it sucks. Because Todd Bowles, you know, I thought was, was better than people gave him credit for as a head coach. Obviously, this is going to count against his record in a big way. But I think if you look back at this thing in 10 years and you didn't watch these games or you didn't take a close look at the roster the way it was constructed, you'd probably be pretty sympathetic to Todd Bulls. I mean, Tom Brady's still really good. Yeah. But this is a fucked up.
Starting point is 00:41:08 opportunity a little bit. I mean, like, we thought we all nodded our heads when Bruce Ariens was like, yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to make sure Todd's got a good opportunity here, this, that, and the third, obviously the injuries he can't control. Right. But the Brady distractions, all this stuff, you know, and Bruce Ariens being in the building. Like, what's going on with that? Yeah. It's just it's a weird situation there. Yeah. It's been a weird offseason and a weird season. So I just feel, I feel for Todd a little bit. I do too. I love Todd Bowles. I mean, I played for him, but I loved his defense.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I love him as a coach. And I've never experienced him as a head coach. But, you know, to have the situation he did in, you know, New York with the Jets and then to come down to Tampa and you're like, okay, he's got a, you know, good roster and, you know, obviously an incredibly talented vet quarterback. And then to have them, they just look so flat. It's really, really, it's crazy. But I mean, yeah, like you said, injuries like Chris Godwin, kind of got to get him going coming off that tough knee injury. he had last, you know, last season. Their, their offensive line is very banged up.
Starting point is 00:42:12 And I think that they've been blessed. I think last year they had an incredible offensive line. You know, they have Tristan Worf, so I think it's really, really good. Donovan Smith is good. Shack Mason's really good right guard, but their left guard and their center are, you know, kind of weak for them. And that's one of the reasons why they haven't really been able to get the run game going. I think Tom's feeling a lot of pressure, checking the ball down a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:42:31 But other random shit like that, you know, we all saw that Mike Evans drop early in the game. And I don't really say that these kind of things are. much because it's just, you know, people say shit like this all the time. Like, yeah, whatever. Like kind of shut the fuck up. But if Mike catches that ball and they score, I think they win that game. They just need one big play to kind of energize them. And it's crazy how flat to look and all the time.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Yeah. Yeah. And the Bucks defense notoriously, like, I know that defense. Another defensive line coach, Casey Rogers is one of my favorite coach that I've ever had. And he's a great, great coach. He's co-defense coordinator for the Bucks right now. but like the Carolina Panthers are running the ball all over them without um without Christian McCaffrey and no one no one's expecting that there's a there's a 60 yard run that hits in Vita that
Starting point is 00:43:18 kind of winds back and hits in Vita's gap and goes for 60 and then you know they're running a dive solid or like a duo double you know where they dump they're getting like 13 personnel and they double everyone on the line and it's it's just those run players are just designed to make the corner it's to get a one-on-one with the running back in the corner they got a rookie corner back in because Carlton Davis is hurt. And that's a run that goes like 27 yards. And it's just stuff like that where you're like, it's so,
Starting point is 00:43:43 it's not what the bucks have been doing for the last couple of years. And it's very, very interesting. And it'll be very, you know, I'm kind of excited to watch this Thursday night game. I think the bucks have their backs against the wall in a short week with a good Ravens team.
Starting point is 00:43:57 I hope they lose, Bo. I hope they lose. You know, we got that bucks under wind total, um, 11 and a half. And I feel good about it.
Starting point is 00:44:04 The 538 has the buck. has the bucks finishing 9 and 8, okay? Is that a typo on the point differential up there with the, did 538 do a typo with the bills? No, it's crazy high. They're supposed to be plus 200. That's where they're tracking right now. That would be incredible.
Starting point is 00:44:23 That would be incredible. So looking at this, some of the teams of 538 does these projections, but this is like, right now it looks like the billing thing that you're talking about right now. No, this is just, you know, how many games? This is Chase Long over here. No, it's not Chase Long. So it's interesting. As bad as the Bengals have been, 538 has them projected to finish the six best
Starting point is 00:44:49 team in the league. And part of that is because it's going to take 10 wins to be the six best team in the league, according to 538. So pretty interesting, like the drop off from some of the best teams in the league. I mean, in a 16 game season, as we're most used to, in the old format, you figure a 10-win teams, maybe a 9-and-a-half,
Starting point is 00:45:09 nine-win team, looking at it from a mathematical standpoint, there are, in this situation, a few elites, and then there are some teams that are scrapping. These are projections. There could be fucking six teams in total with 10 total wins,
Starting point is 00:45:27 with double-digit wins this year. And that's with an extra game in the regular season. So it's kind of wild, just looking at where we are. The NFC is south is so bad that the Bucks are still projected to make the playoffs. It's crazy. I don't know. Those Falcons are we talked about that.
Starting point is 00:45:42 But then the other thing, too, is like we saw this after the game, you know, maybe the Bucks can get some help from the reps down the stretch with Mike Evans, dishing out his autograph to the refs. Did you see that, Chris? It wasn't an autograph, according to the NFL, who at first today wasn't going to give a statement. They were like, there will be no further statements. It was not an autograph. That's it.
Starting point is 00:46:03 You know, they were just going with the, like I can't talk about it thing. And then later in the day, they were like, they realized that they're going to have to talk about it because they don't fucking read the internet. If they would read the internet, they'd realize a lot of people are talking about this story. But I've never seen like,
Starting point is 00:46:17 all the intern was like, whoa, whoa, Roger. Roger, we got a comment. We got it's, uh,
Starting point is 00:46:23 tell him he's getting his number for a golf pro. Like, I guess Mike's trying to work on his golf game already. So here's what's weird about that whole thing is Mike Evans like scribbled two digits and then, and then like walked off. I got to see the video stops and it doesn't look like he's doing an autograph for sure or not. But it also doesn't look like he's right. I don't know what's going on here, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:46:42 We'll get the, I don't know Mike Evans play golf. Can we get on his Instagram and see if he's ever played golf? Because you know people post when they play golf, they all take the picture in front of the hole. Or Lamar Jackson takes a picture at the front of the hole with the, he had like a nine iron out and he like teed his golf ball up on the green. You know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:47:03 That's good. It's really funny. Like people are walking by like, what the fuck is Mike Evans doing? Yeah. This looks weird. And it is weird. And I believe Mike Evans. I think Mike Evans is a stand-up guy.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Well, Mike doesn't give a shit. If there's something funny happening, I feel like he would have come out with it, you know? Like, you see him fight guys on the sidelines. Like, he don't care. So it continues. It continues. He does continue to write something. I hadn't seen the whole video, but he does walk around the corner and continue to write probably
Starting point is 00:47:28 his nine-digit phone number or 10-digit phone number. Jesus Christ. 17, 18 games, 10 digits. How many weeks of 52 weeks in a year? Okay. Mike does have a celebrity golf tournament every year. And there are pictures on his website of him at the golf tournament. No swinging pictures, but...
Starting point is 00:47:53 Case closed. He's also an elite call of duty player, but when he drops the ball, nobody gives him shit like they do to Kyler. Yeah, because he doesn't drop the ball with regularity. He's a borderline Hall of Famer. I don't know about borderline, Chris. I think he's a Hall of Famer, man. Well, I just, I'm careful with the Hall of Fame police.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Until people retire, I just call them borderline Hall of Famers unless they're like first ballot guys. I'm retired, Chris. What's my status? You're not going. Be a new bowl, brother. Yeah, no, I know. That's not even in question, dude. That's not even in question.
Starting point is 00:48:28 So my last mention will be Beefcake of the Week. this is kind of an anti-swag swag kind of guy. You know, the kind of guy that's just kind of wearing issue gear at all times, you know, no swag, swag, swag. It's Ben Jones. There's a viral video of Coach Rebs given Ben Jones an emotional hug after a game. And he got some love for that on social media, but I've played against Ben Jones a bunch and he's a really good player.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Like, you just kind of being honest with you, I love players like Ben Jones because they leave it all out there and he's not necessarily like the most athletically gifted or talented guy, but he's been in the league for a long time. I remember playing against him in Houston and kind of the guy that I've always enjoyed catching up with after games and stuff like that. But Beefcake of the Week is a really good player and, you know, he kind of leads at physical Titans offensive lines. So to see him get some love from Braves and everybody else on social media, I thought he deserved a little bit of a shout out. No question. Braves really, to me, like Ben Jones is the guy playing hurt and all that. And I don't know what the injury was.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Vrable is a stud and like this is what makes him a stud. He's a former player. You know, he's able to connect with guys. He gets it. There's a second camera angle where you can hear them having the conversation and Vrable's emotional, man. You know, he really lives it with these guys. So I think this is,
Starting point is 00:49:47 this is case in point of why Vrable is, is always in the mix as a head coach with this group and why this group's always in the mix. I'm getting choked up talking about it. No, I'm joking. I have a burp. We're emotional. Emotional.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Oh, emotional. Emotional podcast. No, but like what you said, I mean, I think you see as a player, you see something like that. And it's kind of why you do it, man, you know, just to get the respect and admiration of your peers and your coaches. You know, that's kind of something for an unsung hero, like a center. You know, it's kind of a special thing. So shout out to Ben Jones, beefcake of the week. I was jealous of Ben Jones.
Starting point is 00:50:25 You know what I felt? I felt jealousy. It looked like a good hug. You know, like to have a head coach that. cares about you like that. I have had head coaches that care about you, but that's a real connection. I agree. Yeah. It's like a special moment for them. You very rarely get a fucking thank you directly for playing hurt. Especially right. I never got a fucking after a game, you know, like that in a tunnel. Yeah, no, I know you never get a thank you like that. That was really cool. Hey, Bo, take care.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Thank you so much.

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