Green Light with Chris Long - Beau Allen! NFL Wild Card Weekend: Bengals Playoff Win, 49ers Beat The Cowboys & Referees.
Episode Date: January 17, 2022(2:45) - Hello, Layup Line and Beau Comes to Charlottesville. (15:59) - San Francisco 49ers vs Dallas Cowboys. (33:43) - Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs Philadelphia Eagles. (58:56) - Stanford Steve on Cincin...nati Bengals vs Las Vegas Raiders, Buffalo Bills vs New England Patriots and LA Rams vs Arizona Cardinals Preview. (1:27:10) - Kansas City Chiefs vs Pittsburgh Steelers and Divisional Playoff Weekend Look Ahead. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to the Greenlight Podcast, and boy was today's episode fun.
Cowboy.
Bo Allen, who you deduce from the title, is on the show today.
And we got Snowden with Bo all Sunday watching football, ordering burgers and French fries.
We watch all Sunday's wildcard games together.
Chris Bo and Dr. Fax are going to give you their takes on the 49ers Cowboys game
and the referee debacle there, as well as the Buccaneers Eagles blowout.
Stanford Steve will pop on to talk Saturday's games, the Bengals and Raiders,
and the Bill's Patriots
and also give you a Cardinals' Rams preview.
And boy, do I hope you all have a good Monday.
Enjoy yourselves.
3D Lyman one couch.
That's a video I'd watch.
Okay.
I got Bo Allen in the building.
Bo Allen came in town.
I got Dr. Fax here.
Mekins.
He's out of the office today.
What's Sunday.
He's out of the office every fucking Sunday.
And it is about 9 o'clock.
We're watching the Steelers and the Chiefs
Duke it out, low-scoring ballgame.
Chiefs, we need to score some points here, okay?
Getting a little nervous as a big brother,
but I do have the under.
The bets have been going well.
I'll talk to you about that.
Bo, you're here in Charlottesville.
I'll get the whole review.
I'm here.
But you get to say hello today.
Hello.
Hello to Madison, Wisconsin.
Hello.
Shout out to Matt.
A lot of badgers playing football today.
And Bo's an alma mater,
are one of the most famous of the University of Wisconsin.
JJ Watt, Joe Thomas, and Bo Allen.
The big three is what I called them.
Shout out to Travis Beckham.
Travis Beckham.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was my teammate in New York.
New York?
Yeah.
So.
Good guy?
He was a great guy.
And he's a DJ.
He's a DJ on the side.
Yeah, he's a pretty good.
I think he's like a DJ and maybe like, I don't want to say the wrong thing, but he wears
hospital scrubs.
Like just out?
So he might be like a registered nurse or a CPA or something like that.
DJ CPA in an accountant?
R.N.
The fucking the backwoods are just, the backwoods are, uh, it's a war of attrition here.
CPA certified public accountant.
Yep, CPA.
DJ CPAs.
What if there's all CPAs in Madison, Wisconsin.
Okay.
So the big question.
is Madison, Wisconsin, Charlottesville, Virginia, two college towns.
Give me the comp.
It's interesting.
Chris took me on a nice little tour of Charlottesville yesterday, and it's very scenic.
Like it's got the brick, really good college town feel to it, but obviously I'm partial to Madison.
I think Madison feels, like game day on Madison is what?
Like, give me, what's game day in Charlottesville?
It's not game day in Madison.
I'm just saying, like, no, I'm just complimenting y'all.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
We don't have a jump around.
That's what you love about Madison.
Like people, like the party scene in Madison, like, I don't know how that is here, but I think that...
I don't think we...
What I'm saying is campus is more, like, you know, picturesque.
It's been snowing.
It's kind of cool.
Two different sides of the bracket, but meeting in the final four of, of alcoholics who are undiagnosed.
Like Charlottesville, a lot of drinking.
Nickname of the school is, I mean, the nickname is the Wahoos.
The Hoos, when you hear Hoos, I think it's the Wahoos because the Wahoos are fish that could drink their weight in water.
Double their weight.
They're like the alcoholic ants.
Ants, you know, they do like 50 times, 500 times their weight.
They can carry it around.
Wahoos can drink that much.
So Wisconsin, I know you guys have some regular.
Yeah, there's some drinking being done in Wisconsin.
Just shooting stars up there.
Yeah.
And you guys are Midwestern folks, so I don't want to tell some with you.
There's not much to do in the winter.
You get a storm, it's snowing out.
Yeah.
Drinking is a cold weather thing, dude.
It really is.
I love a bar when it's cold out.
and you guys get that like year round so we got a snowstorm we're doing this we love our job there's
about five six inches of snow outside uh all i've been hearing about all weekend is this fucking snowstorm
and i've watched both start many a conversation with locals like how about this snow how about this
i'm from minnesota man so it's an easy conversation starter how about this how about the snowstorm
i also heard a lot of people taking shots at you know v dot and dominion and i know i've been caping for
especially Dominion saying, like, listen, you have bad games.
The last storm was a bad game.
We had the power was out for a week.
I am betting on Dominion Power and on VDOT,
just like I would bet a team that you buy low off a bad loss.
Don't jinx it, man.
No, I'm not jinxing.
I'm doing quite the opposite.
I'm saying that they had a bad game two weeks ago.
So what, we all sat without power.
So what I heard that in New York,
they cut all the limbs down in the fall to make sure that they don't fall on power lines
when there's a heavy snow suddenly that we saw coming for a week.
You had one bad game tonight I'm betting on Dominion and VDOT and the good people there.
So shout out to them and hopefully we get home.
I hope.
I don't want to be stuck with you all week, man.
Yeah, no.
Well, you took that risk, though, to be honest, like when a dude comes in town,
which is nice to you, by the way, because you know me.
The chances of me leaving town to go anywhere else is pretty low, so you're good friend to come see me.
I mean, I got a cabin in northern Wisconsin.
I invite all my friends.
I think I'll do that.
Come on up.
I'm not coming to Tampa.
I don't want to spoiler alert
That's great
Especially not with a family trip
He was selling like a family trip
I was like no dude
I was going to yeah
I was going to the family
Disney World I'm like don't tell my kids
Disney World exists
Bush Gardens
Bush Gardens none of it
Bush Gardens can be fun for us though
Oh I don't want to go to any of that shit
I don't either
But if I go with you
Yeah okay
I'm just saying
I'm coming in northern Wisconsin
But shout out to you
Despite the two warnings
The Weather Channel
All the weather advisory
Chris sent me a message
yesterday. I was like, yeah, just so you know,
like there's a pretty serious storm coming.
Like, you might want to look into that.
And I was like, oh, okay, do you think I didn't even look at it?
I wanted you to still show up, but I didn't want.
Do you think that'll affect my travel? He's like, oh, maybe.
And I was like, I, okay.
But compared to you, is this really that serious?
Not really.
No, but it's all about the preparation and
Bumble. Boy, the Steelers.
Oh.
Score on defense.
Cheese, Louise.
T.J. Warren of the touch.
Wow.
We'll be talking about that later.
Wow.
We will be talking about that at the end of the show in this.
Everything we won't be talking about that because hopefully the Chiefs find a way to get back on top here.
But this looks like it's going to be a sweat fest for Chiefs.
And certainly if you bet the chiefs at 13 and a half, they're doing a wild cat.
It's probably not going to happen.
But Williams just fumbles the ball.
Oh, he fumbles it twice.
Kevin Bacon and Hollow Man strips it.
And T.J. Watt with a touchdown.
Is that a thick six?
I wouldn't call it a thick six.
Yeah, I mean, I guess he can be thrown into, you don't want to score all the time.
He's running with the big skill group, though, you know?
He's not running with the big boys when they're doing gassers and shit.
No, he's running with the skill guys, yeah, for sure.
But if Gronk scores a touchdown, it's not a thick six, then, you know, Gronk is a tackle.
You know, like, Gronk is back in the late 80s would be a tackle.
If when the team is doing specialized conditioning, you're not with the big boys, then it's not a thick six.
So anyways, that's a touchdown.
The Steelers are up 7-0 in real time here, so you can follow.
along with us watching
and where we are in the night.
We're going to get Stanford Steve
onto the half of this game
to talk about Buffalo
their beatdown of the Patriots.
We're going to talk about Cincinnati,
Joe Burroughs, surviving against the Raiders.
What's to come of that?
What's to come on Monday night?
Rams,
Niners, that'll be y'alls tonight,
our tomorrow night.
So, like, I love this three-day playoff thing.
It's extreme,
but it beats the hell out of the super wild card weekend last year it's different right
Reid do you last year they changed something I mean because this feels different I like
it moved it to Monday night right yeah so last year was three games Saturday three games Sunday
all at one four and eight never want that again like never want that again I felt exhausted I
felt I resented my favorite weekend of the year by the time Tampa and and Washington played
I was just like let's just get it over with I had to watch the Niccolo
in game, which is nothing wrong with that broadcast.
We watched that early.
It was just that it was Chicago, New Orleans.
A lot of slime.
A lot of slime.
On a weekend like this where all the games are great games,
I'm totally down to do the three and three,
but most years are not going to be this way.
So I'm glad they're spreading it out.
We'll talk about all those games with Steve,
but the first thing we'll hit in a little bit is obviously the Cowboys and the Eagles
and the fallout, especially in Dallas.
That'll be a fun discussion.
Yeah, Bo and I have played.
in Philly and then Bo's played in Tampa so house divided here today I don't fucking know
your jersey was like 95% Eagles yeah and there was like I mean the left shoulder was was
Tampa I've got much fonder memories of my time and we'll just say that
Philadelphia thanks a large part to you buddy oh thank you yeah that's a good compliment you're
paying me back yeah we should we shared on live stream Bo and I I mean fuck how old were you
when when you were in Philly uh I don't know 27 27
I don't know.
They drafted me.
Young 27-year-old dude.
And I was an old veteran and found a great friend in Bo.
And he kind of took care of me there.
So one of the tenants of us being, not locker mates, but being near each other, was
that Bo needs a compliment every day.
Dude, it gets dark sometimes and during the season during camp.
I mean, you know, some people, you need a fucking compliment.
Some people fish for compliments.
I just ask.
Some people just ask straight out.
And Bo's thing is to just say, hey, I need a compliment every day from you, Chris.
I've identified you as a guy that will give me a compliment every day.
I'm going to need that.
Truly the basis of our friendship.
So,
but it's kind of been turned on its head tonight because Nate brought a fact to the table.
Yeah,
Mel Tucker,
when he was a coach,
when he was my head coach in Jacksonville,
he used to say,
when you get a compliment,
you should cherish it because you can live two weeks off of one compliment.
Now,
that's science,
as far as I'm concerned.
And it also shows that you've had a surplus of compliments.
Well,
yeah,
because we hung out a lot.
You gave me a bunch of,
I stocked them up.
But now I haven't seen you for a couple years or whatever.
You've had at least three today.
So now I'm going to come back and get some more fucking two weeks.
You look jacked, bro.
Thanks, bro.
Two more weeks.
Boom.
So don't ask inside that two week window.
The new information has been presented to me.
There's a waiting period.
So layup line.
I'm going to give you layup line today, which I explained is the way that we kind of keep
the music rolling on this show.
And I was driving in the car with you yesterday.
And a 90s.
country.
Chris took me on a car ride around Charlottesville.
Like, you know, when you're
around your family for like Christmas, Thanksgiving
and you go for a walk with your cousins,
Chris took me for a little car ride around
the area and showed me some...
Car rides can be, and I love my family,
but sometimes a car ride is just what the doctor
ordered. Oh, yeah.
Holding her right now has got me
thinking more and more.
This is right where
I need to be.
The song that was playing was right where I need to be.
And that's Gary Allen, the guy who did smoke rings in the dark too.
It's some 90s country radio gold right there.
And you hadn't heard the song.
I said, Chris, what's the song?
We were at the dam.
It was pretty cool.
Yeah, we went out to dam.
We did a lap around Charleston, went to the dam and listened to right where I need to be.
Yeah.
And I feel like I'm right where I need to be this weekend with Matt and Reed is my witness.
And Bo is my witness.
Oh, yeah.
The bets have been good.
I mean, we've been winning bets.
We were on the Bengals.
The Bengals squeaked it out, although they really shouldn't have needed all that drama late to win that game.
The Red Zone was a problem for them, but they covered, needless to say, we had the bills, we had the over, ding, ding.
My love for the Eagles blinded me.
I bought them to 10, but I still think if they show up, that's a game at least.
I mean, it's a cover.
We also had the under there.
That hit as well.
And then I just got done watching the Niners and the under hit, ding, ding, ding.
Now I'm on the under here, Chief Steelers.
So maybe fade me next week.
Maybe fade me next month.
I'm getting bored with gambling, guys.
I sent this.
You got your advisor in time, man.
I've been helping Chris out.
He doesn't give me a fucking shout out.
It was crazy.
Oh, advisor.
Some people are dumb enough to believe that, so I'm going to contest that.
That's why I was doing so well.
Honestly, the intel that you had on the bucks was money.
Was helpful?
You thought that the bucks.
I felt, I mean, I thought that they were going to win.
That was my blind spot this weekend.
But I wanted the Eagles swim.
But I said this to read earlier.
I was like, hey, I don't know if this makes any sense,
but gambling kind of feels more necessary when you're down.
Like being up the way I've been up the last month,
you're kind of bored with it.
You're like, I guess I'll bet this game.
You just want to feel something.
If you're so used to being in chase mode,
I almost feel jaded being up.
Yeah.
I'm going to get in some kinky shit,
like racing like horses or some of the bets that Macon does
to stay like to keep keep the flame going Russian youth basketball Russian youth basketball that's like
the the stuff you don't want your browsing history. It's like how you start looking at playboy and then
the next thing you know you're really in the deep web. Yeah you're looking at I don't even want to
that's what these that's what those bets are to me like when he comes in here talking about
I mean even fucking some of these Fiba basketball games please Macon's in here betting on
games all over the world.
That's true.
You're just going to get into the same game parlays.
He must be up to be betting this stuff because that's where I'm going next.
I'm bored.
The game right now, we'll get to it a little bit.
Priest Holmes was killing that drum, dude.
I thought this was going to be a jumping a little bit in Kansas City.
Hey, where's is.
Let's talk about the elephant in the room.
Cowboys took L today.
We've talked about how mortal their offenses seem.
We talked about, you know, the four-man rush getting home, even with the Bosa out.
They pressured Dak.
We'll talk about the X's and the O's with Steve, but what say y'all on the big story of the game?
I mean, they're getting ready to pelt these officials, the guy that got in the way or that was doing his job and collided with Dak at the end of the game.
Yeah.
But was he doing his job?
Yes.
We watched it live.
He was like 40 yards away, it felt like.
But I think that there are plays, there are plays in the NFL where when a quarterback and a center is trying to spot and spike the ball where the referee has left the spot and not touch the ball and let them get that off.
And I feel like that should have been a situation where he was running, he was out of place.
He knew it was going to be what was going on.
He should have let that play went on.
You can say that, but I think that they put themselves in that.
that position. That's my, that's my, that's my take is, they call that quarterback, design quarterback
run play with no timeouts and 15 seconds to go. It was right of the, he went right up the middle of the
field. Maybe they didn't think he'd have as much runway, but at that point, like, if you're just playing for
seven yards, your entire, your entire team needs to like kind of know, you know the script at that point.
And the script is handing the ball to the official because he has to touch it and set the ball.
But I think they were surprised. I think the officiating crew is maybe a little bit surprised. That dude was
screaming. He was running from so far away.
It's such an unorthodox way to put yourself in position to win. I mean, I kind of understand
what they're thinking, you know, but because when they're playing that defense with protecting
the sideline, right? So that whole middle of the field is open. But you have to have a
time out. Here's what I'm saying, though. The way that adds up, as you can see, is if he has to
travel five less yards. So to me, if you're gunning to gain, you know, seven yards and put
yourself in what you deem a much more manageable shot territory, then it's stupid because you could
just take two shots from seven yards back. So just a little too cute then from Kellen Moore in the game?
I'm not positive and we've talked a lot about head coaching aspirations for this guy and all that
sort of stuff. But I think the buck stops with Mike McCarthy. I mean, no matter what the call
was, you as a head coach have to be able to say in a key situation that like, hey, this is
unsound for us, you know, having this play in the chamber. And us,
leaving the game in the referee's hands.
I mean, that's essentially what happened.
And we can't take away from San Fran the fact that that's probably game plans.
Like, hey, we'll leave the middle open.
Like, we don't want them on the sidelines.
You let them catch the ball and let them.
Take a second getting up.
Exactly.
Let them think they can get those extra yards.
But if they're not going to score, it doesn't really matter.
Yeah, no, I just think they leave the game to chance.
And I don't think the refs really did anything wrong.
It sounds like by the letter of the law, they're not in the wrong there.
Now, no, no, no, no.
What he did wrong is running, like, like accidentally bumping into the center in Dax, I feel like.
But the point, like, where was he going to go?
His job is to set the football.
I get it.
I get it.
But, like, there's a bunch of replays and stuff going around on the internet right now.
Oh, the internet's never.
A lot of situations that were similar to that, where the referee, he kind of goes in.
and he doesn't, he doesn't set the ball.
I mean, you can say ineptitude.
There's going to be a lot of people.
I heard a guy on the live stream saying that we're going to be,
they're playing football games in a hanger or something.
Like the games are fixed.
In what alternate universe do the cowboys not get a call?
You know what I mean?
I know these are two charter franchises kind of,
like the way they look on the field.
It brings us back to the 90s.
Like these are two money-making franchises and fan bases.
But the Cowboys are the team that they want in the play.
So we're boiling this down to ineptitude, and I don't care what they've done in other situations.
I feel like the call is to blame, you know, and I'm not victim blaming.
They are victims maybe like 5%, but they put themselves in this situation.
I think it's fun to bitch about the roughs.
It is.
And Jerome Boger is watching the game.
As you pointed out earlier, Bo, you were like, the guy who's the most glad that this is happening
is Jerome Boger in the Interverton Whistle in Sinty, which we can talk about.
But I also don't think that ended up.
Like, I don't think that changed the outcome of that play.
I think that kid was beat.
But it's still kind of like, what the fuck, man.
It's what the fuck.
All this shit we have, like, dude, all the replays, all the cameras, the slow-mo.
Yeah.
And, like, I mean, it's like, can we just fucking, you know?
Yeah.
The refs, the refs had had, like, I know someone on the internet and someone in YouTube world,
they already have all the bad calls from this entire year already, like,
the montage ready.
But the refs, like overall for this season, like we're talking about the
refs entirely way too much.
We are.
We are.
Like every week, there's like such a bad call that, and just like you're saying,
they have all this stuff that they're changing and all this technology.
And it's like, you know, they're still taking five to seven minutes on big calls to figure
out what's going on and in doing the replays.
So it's just like you got to get it together.
The delay of game protocols, like what?
Like, you know what I'm talking about?
Like you look at the ball, you look at zero, you look back at the.
the ball. And that's something too. I wonder if COVID is affecting them too. I've always said that we
talk about refs every year. I mean, we like the NFL powered through the replacement reps. They
powered through. I mean, they had motherfuckers in the state in the state capital talking about that
PI. Maybe maybe the rest fucking it up as part of it. Maybe that's a good talking point.
No, all I'm what I'm trying to say is that in actuality the NFL's fine. It's bulletproof.
Like we sat in front of these TVs all day. We'll complain. We sit here and do this this indignignity.
self-righteous talk about all the calls that have been missing.
I'll be right here with my ass in this chair tomorrow.
And they know it.
And no matter what the competition committee figures out in a given off season,
they know that history shows they're practically bulletproof when it comes to,
you know,
refs fucking up a viewing experience.
Yes.
I also think it's funny.
We always complain about the refs,
but we're talking.
Yeah.
You know,
we are online.
We are tweeting.
Some of y'all are tweeting.
Uh,
we're complaining.
like it adds to the drama of the game.
And that's why I also think that measurements should never go away.
Because measurements are like part of football.
That little inches.
Yeah.
It's reality TV.
Part of the reality TV show is, is this shit.
Remember the commercial?
You remember the commercial?
Drama changed the channel.
And it was like it's a commercial about like a spot in the football game.
And just that little, that little inch that you're waiting for that ref to come back to
either say it's a first down or not.
Like, it's funny how wrapped in, like, how...
Solid gold.
Well, viewership for the NFL, man, 2021, right?
Yeah.
It's way up.
Yeah, I thought...
As much as we love to complain about whatever, like, this shit is fire.
Yeah, it is fire.
And I thought people were going to boycott this thing a couple years ago, but never mind.
Anyways, the Cowboys fans, man, throwing bottles at these officials.
Cowboys are like, they kind of got a foreign soccer team fan base where I'm worried about, like,
Russian soccer too.
Yeah, like a South American or Russian fan base
where it's like they're very serious.
They're dead serious about it.
And like you might have to like.
You know those stadiums?
Send security home with some of these refs.
You know in those stadiums,
the fans are actually not allowed to leave
until 30 minutes after the opposing teams,
bus has left and the refs have left.
That's what they do in different like countries for soccer.
Oh, I thought they were going to say here in Dallas.
I was like,
they should.
Yeah.
Something that's like but when you hear about that and you hear about like yeah, why would they do that?
That's that's so extreme.
And then you see a situation like Dallas like and you see fans upset about a call and things actually being thrown.
And you think about, yo, how are these refs going to get out or what if you're in the car and you realize, hey, that's the ref.
Did you see the woman crying?
Did you see the woman?
Did you see the woman?
I haven't seen it.
No.
Oh, God.
My reference.
Dude.
All right.
Well, look it up.
I will.
The refs, they're doing the best they can.
Like change the rules, but these are the best of the best when it comes to like getting things correct.
There's a lot of calls that they actually make that are incredible.
Look at the National Championship Monday night with football.
These are the college reps.
These are ACC refs that I was on.
They nailed that fumble, the Sets and Bennett fumble.
And they nailed the guy actually getting possession of the ball on the sideline.
You're going to tell me it wasn't a fumble and I'm zero shocked.
Nate reeling off a bad take on a Sunday night.
Hit me with it.
What's your take?
You know, you think that was a,
do you think that was an incompletion?
Yo, they messed up all those calls.
They messed up a lot of those calls.
On Monday night? Yes.
Really?
Yes.
Which calls?
Yo, I can't think about it right now.
Okay.
I can't think about it.
I got to go back.
Okay.
Yo, can I say something quick?
Sure.
Imagine if fans at the link through,
like, you know, bottles at the refs.
Oh, my God, it'd be a big, big deal.
Right?
Come on.
It's still talking about a snowball.
Snowball is, it's not, it can't even hurt anybody.
That's all I'm going to say.
They threw it a fake thing.
It's not even a real thing.
They should throw a snowball.
It's like, I mean, a guy ate horse shit when we won the, people are talking about
that still.
Yeah, but we're talking about injuring refs, dude.
I know.
I don't know, man.
We're stuck on the refs thing.
In the post game, uh, press conference,
Dak, Prescott disparaged fans for throwing bottles at the players.
And of course.
Then he was.
told that the fans were aiming for the officiating crew and he retracted and said a credit to them
then wow wow doc hey doc bro that's a smart optics yeah a playoff loss a playoff loss and he's gonna get
fine what he's definitely gonna get fine we'll talk about this i just it's it's i kind of love that
i just was going to say that too like at the end of the day like the reps have a hard enough jobs
and you know throw a bottle at mike mccarthy no like that's what i'm saying
Throw a bottle like Kellymour and Dack, throw a bottle.
Talk about the, if you're going to, if these refs who, I don't know, what's the,
what, Reed, what's the objective consensus here?
Is this guy like dead wrong or was just kind of wrong or?
I think it depends on if you're a Cowboys fan.
Doing his job or not.
No, I think he was wrong.
You think he was wrong?
So what would have made it better if they gave them one, one extra play?
Is that what everyone's like, like, but that official can't give them one extra play.
He can only do his job.
Everybody in the stadium knew that they had to get up there and fucking spike the ball.
The ref is sprinting in from 40 yards away, bro.
I'm like, I don't know.
I was told that the guy has to set the ball, yes?
Yes.
End a conversation.
You put yourself in that position.
I know people are, I know that this guy did the wrong thing maybe, and he should have
took a chance and not done his job.
But if his job is set the football.
I'm not saying not do his job.
I'm saying just, you know.
The cowboys need to give him the football.
Get the fuck up up there, bro.
Get on your horse.
I don't know, man.
You see Dave or Dak going stage left, you go stage right.
Another thing is, like, you need this play to win.
Like, you probably don't even hit it.
So the worst thing is a Cowboys fans are going to say they got robbed in.
They got their asses kicked.
They got their asses kicked by Niners.
I just wanted to see that one play.
They got jumped by a team that was supposed to be coming off their Super Bowl.
You know what I'm saying?
Dude, the Niners look good throughout the game.
The Niners came out hungry, dude.
They came out, and that first 15 is a motherfucker.
I got to see some of these reactions.
I'm sure some people are saying the ref is wrong.
Too many stupid penalties.
I'm sorry, bro.
I don't mean to extend this conversation,
but wouldn't it make sense to make the referee who's in the secondary,
the ball spotter on the plays that get like past 10 or 12 yards positive towards the...
But they have a system already.
If that's a bad protocol, then change the protocol, the guys on the field are executing it.
And now they're getting bottles thrown out of them.
I mean, like, fuck, I get it.
I hate the refs.
like a lot of times, especially the offensive bias and all this stuff.
But I think sometimes on a game like this,
the worst thing is the Cowboys fans are going to come away and say,
we got robbed.
That's true.
You got your asses kicked.
That's good.
You called a bad,
you made a bad call that put you in a marginally better place to take a shot.
I mean,
it's definitely a better shot position.
I was like we were saying earlier,
like this is actually good for football if the Cowboys lose in this way.
Like even though they're not in the playoffs,
best believe we're going to hear about.
this to the end of the, well, the Cowboys, if they would give them one more play, the Cowboys would have won.
It would have been a different story. So I feel like it's actually a good little side.
Cowboys put themselves in a position, bro, to lose that football game. So some TVs are going to get
broken. Some big, like, Reed, what was that? Who got when viral? Was it Steelers fans that broke that
giant TV recently? The guy just shattered a TV. Yeah, and he dragged it outside.
Make sure it was dead. There was a Cowboys. There was a Cowboys. There was a,
A cowboy fan a couple years ago where he broke the TV.
I forget what the game was.
And then he went and destroyed every single thing in the house and then found the fish.
He broke the fish tank.
No, he didn't.
And found the fish on the ground and put it in his mouth.
No, he didn't, dude.
Really?
Let me find this.
Is that the Cowboys fan?
I'm pretty sure it was a Cowboys fan.
He's got nothing left to destroy this week.
What's he going to do?
How could something that's come so easily to you mean so much?
Like you were born in the 80s or 90s.
You watched a bunch of championships.
Like you're rooting for this team like you're a Saints fan
that went through a hurricane
and a bunch of brown paper bags on fucking people's heads.
You guys inherited this shit.
Like you, like relax, dude.
He's probably not even from Dallas.
Anyways, they're up there as far as fan base
that'll break a TV.
The Steelers, I think probably Lakers.
These are fan bases that lead the league in, like, car flags in other states.
Are we only talking NFL?
If you're going to see a car flag around here, give me a couple, like, you're going to see the, you know, like a sedan.
The Washington football team, the Dallas Cowboys, the Steelers.
The Steelers, the Giants.
And maybe a strayed dolphins.
Yeah.
But they're the old heads, dude.
No, there's nobody that's more proud of, like, the Packers, dude.
I mean, like, I went to call it in Wisconsin.
There are guys, like, you're talking about breaking TV guys, but there's also like,
I'm a part owner of the Packers.
The breaking TV guy, yeah, it's like kind of the same, like, if you're looking at a Venn diagram,
like there's some overlap.
I like that, though.
The breaking TV guys, there's a, it's just a circle, the Venn diagram, between the breaking
TV guys and the flags on the outside of your, your sedan.
Nobody's running around with a fucking, with a, I'm trying to think of a team that's newly good.
an Arizona Cardinals flag.
No, I've never seen one of my life.
But respect if you have like a Jacksonville, Jaguar's car flag.
Respect.
Respect.
My parents definitely have one on their car when I was playing.
Old heads, dude.
Al's got like the old head vibe, dude.
He's got the old head vibe.
Dude, that's why he has a Jags flag.
I think that also makes your insurance more expensive if you have like a certain team.
Depends on the flag.
Yeah.
I want to look into that.
Your premium goes up, like your State Farm Aiders drives by.
I was like, oh, hey, you get a call from him.
I didn't realize.
Yeah, I didn't realize.
He's got a Jags flag.
He's either got a kid on the team or he might do meth.
And Al Collins, luckily he has a kid on the team,
but anybody else with a Jags flag on the outside,
like your insurance is going up.
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Only good thing about being Eagles fan today is the Cowboys also lost.
So you're mad, but then you have somewhere to channel your anger, right?
Yeah.
In the afternoon.
And now the Cowboys fans like, they can't even gloat.
Right.
Same place.
You got all these weapons.
You have DAC.
You have, you know, all these receivers.
C.D. Lamb.
Dawson Knox comes back.
Gallops hurt, you've got Cooper, you got Zeke, you've got Tony Pollard.
They just have a lot of fucking players.
Look on the defense.
It's star-studded.
They have a bunch of pro bowlers, man.
And the Eagles rolled the ball out there with a bunch of guys you haven't heard of,
catching the football, young guys, promising guys, but young guys,
and a quarterback that they really, I don't think,
expected to be in this position with after a really long run of wins over bad teams,
the second half of the season.
And so the Cowboys and the Eagles are sitting here in the same place.
Like one really exciting season where you're talking about Super Bowl
and the other season where you're happy to be in the dance,
even though Birds fans are going to feel that way.
That's the reality.
You should be happy to be in the dance.
And these teams, their seasons end the same day.
So NFC is back where we started.
And the Eagles actually, I'd rather be them in a way
because you got three draft picks.
in the top 20.
So 15, 16 and 19, I believe.
And Howie Roseman's comments were, you know,
Jalen, he's done a lot of good, he's our guy.
Listen, inevitably, if you play in big games,
you will be judged on those games.
He has performed in spots this year very well.
And I know some people are listening and saying,
like even by acknowledging the relative stinker that he put up today,
I'm being a hater.
I don't hate the kid at all.
I really like the kid.
That's part of why I've been so torn on this thing.
But in an off season where you're going to have options,
if not this year, maybe next year,
and you've got a plethora of draft picks
and you maybe parlay into a higher one in a year.
I'm fine with rolling the ball out there again with Jalen.
But I'm also, I also think it's totally reasonable
for some people to be like,
I don't know who the quarterback of the future is in Philly.
I think some people might say anybody's going to look like shit
when you, the quarterback on the other side of the ball
or on the other team is Tom Brady,
and he was so efficient today.
Yeah. I mean, like he was just moving the ball down the field. I mean, he got pressure at times.
Yeah. He goes defensive line. You guys better start talking about Garner because he's going to listen all offseason and just going to get better, get better. And it's just going to get harder for decisions for coaches in Philly. If they keep someone like that behind your starter quarterback, you have no choice but to get better or you're going to lose your spot.
Well, I don't know, man. It's going to be a, it's going to be, it sucks for Jailing because it,
We go, he's a hero, right?
We had the fans on who almost got crushed by the rafters.
Whatever you done for me lately?
They're sitting there saying, you know, a lot of people got to apologize about Jalen,
and I'm kind of nodding along, but I'm also like, as we said on this show, like,
everything's on the table there.
Everything's on the table.
And this is the thing.
One, the Carson Went's trade, no questions asked, but you don't know for sure who you guy is
five years from now.
Like, the kid has not made enough place for that.
I love his leadership ability.
I love some of the plays he's made this year, but today he just wasn't on, and the whole team
wasn't on.
But that pick before the half, down 17-0, take some points.
I mean, at that point, you've got another shot at that thing on 30.
You threw that pick on second, and not very good.
And you're right.
When Tom's on the other sideline, there's this juxtaposition where you're like,
damn, this fucking guy's automatic.
And by the way, too much off coverage for Tom.
Like too much pitch and catch, third and twos.
It just looked easy.
It was too easy.
You challenged that guy.
He's getting the ball out in 2.1 seconds.
I mean, the D-line rushed well.
The Bucks, Tristan Worf's got hurt, right tackle,
and then Josh Wells got exposed a little bit by, you know, Ryan Carrigan.
Yeah, Kerrigan, who I'm going to give my nightcap to as Ryan Kerrigan.
I mean, like, I always ended up in his mentions this year because they were doing the natural comparison,
old white guy, veteran signing.
People were hard on Kerrigan.
He still got it in the tank.
He played well.
He played well today, dude.
He had nice rushes.
I mean, he had a nice sack on Wurst.
It was a little banged up, which is, I mean...
And that's Wurfs got to be out of there at that point.
It's hard. I mean, you love it. The guy's got a lot of heart, and he's a tough guy.
You've got to be tough to be...
High Motorway guy.
Right. Right. Right. Right. But the sack on Wurfs, and then the backup comes in,
and another great rush.
So, like, he showed some juice and probably made himself some money, and that's the reality.
When you have a resume like his, all it takes is one game.
So nightcap to him. Good for him to get on the board.
and kind of have a game that everybody's going to remember,
even though the Bucks kicked their asses.
One bright spot was Ryan Kerrigan.
The defense, though, not aggressive enough.
Quite frankly, the Bucks looked more physical.
So I was talking to Chris earlier today
about the Bucs' offensive line,
because I played for the Bucs,
and I went against, like, Ryan Jensen,
Alley Marpet, and those dudes a lot.
And, like, I think their own line is really good.
Yeah.
But.
Lost Jensen?
Jensen, I think he went back in.
Did he go back in?
Yeah.
Yeah, but Worf's, they lost.
I mean, Worf's the first team all pro, I think.
Like, he's fucking good.
Like, he's really, but anyway, um, defensively, like,
they weren't going to let the Eagles run the ball.
We talked about that a little bit on the last room.
They were just going to sit there and make them get the ball out on the perimeter.
They were going to make Hertz beat them.
And I played for Todd balls and, you know, that whole defense.
And they, they've done a really good job with not letting teams run the ball.
Like, it's a major point of that defense.
And then they knew that a lot of the Eagles success or the, you know, this back half
the season is because they ran the ball well.
Right.
So that's something that they definitely want to take away from.
I think they wanted Jaylen Hertz to beat him.
Yeah, that's who they decided was going to have to beat them.
And he didn't show up.
And they're 0 and 7 against playoff teams now because the Bucks are won.
The Bucks are good.
The Bucks are good.
I just don't think they have it.
I can't bet.
It's so hard to bet against Tom Brady.
Like, it's hard to bet against Tom Brady and everyone tries to do it.
And you try to find ways to justify it and you try to pick at
all the little, like, incritic things that you can find and be like he's not good at just these little things.
And then we forget about all the other things that he's really good at.
And when it comes to the playoff, he's really good at winning.
I'm just not betting against Brady.
I'm betting against the bucks.
They protected the ball pretty well, I think.
I mean, I think the Eagles turned it over a couple times.
I don't know, two or three maybe.
Yeah, I mean, the Eagles turned the ball over.
I mean, that was two picks, a fourth down, Devin White.
That was a good call, the OA Award for the guy that makes me glad that I'm on the couch.
that was an incredibly athletic pick
that you mentioned, Bo, on fourth down.
Yeah.
To the pick.
Was that, Shaq Barrett?
Was that, no, it was Shaq Barrett.
Jack Barrett on the tip.
Tip to himself.
He got up there and like tipped it to himself.
It was pretty sick.
I'll give that to Shaq Barrett.
He said three, turnovers, two picks of fumble,
and the bucks did not turn the ball over.
And here was where the game ended was,
was Rager dropping the punt.
I mean, at that point, it's 17-0.
You get the ball back with a short field.
You've come out of the half.
You've gotten to stop.
You feel like,
kind of energized.
And again, you had the white side drop last week, you know, which wasn't a playoff game,
but, you know, for him, that was the Super Bowl, you know, like to drop that ball.
When it comes to Philly and, I mean, that was a nail in the coffin there.
And the same thing for Rager, even though Rager's so early in his deal, I just feel like a lot
of fans are just going to give up now.
And that's a tough look.
That a Hollow Man?
That's a Hollow Man.
Rager gets a Hollow Man.
What's a Hollow Man?
Hollow Man's Kevin Bacon in the movie Hollow Man.
he was invisible
Rona Maitre was in it
where you just want to disappear
They want to disappear
Ooh yeah that's a good one
Yeah that's a good one
We have a lot of people
Listen to this show
Allegedly every week
That still don't know
What some of the mentions are
And they asked me
They're like can you explain this one
I'm like listen
I'm not gonna be explained that every week
But this is good
Use Bo Allen being here
As a reset for you motherfuckers
And but here's the deal
Brady got the ball out
Two in a six
If that's a thing
2.15
But the Eagles did get to him at times
You know
Yeah, the Eagles got to him at times.
But you can see the frustration in the Derek Barnett penalty early.
Like, that's the protection this guy's getting.
Yeah, but Jalen Hertz is not going to get that call.
Not roughing the passer?
No, not at all.
That's a bad call.
But that's what I'm saying.
The frustration and like after that play saying,
I'm just trying to get a little hit on Tom, just let him know I'm here.
And I pull up and now I get crushed with this penalty.
And that's for a guy.
And Gumbie gets, people get mad at Derek Barnett about the penalty.
this one wasn't bad, but it was a really bad penalty in the context of the game because
that put them at midfield the first, you don't want to go down 7-0 on the road.
And the worst thing for the Eagles was the rain cleared up.
Like we thought we were going to deal with the monsoon, a tornado I was hearing, and then it
looked picturesque with some gusts of win.
That wasn't the best situation for the Eagles because you had to win sloppy.
And Josh Sweat being out was the biggest deal.
Yeah.
If Josh Sweat is in, like you might take your vision.
coming out of the half or earlier of those issues to tackle, like a lot more, you know,
aggressively. And so he was out. Jalen Hertz didn't look great. Almost threw a ball to Carlton Davis,
too. And here's the big deal. Like he's talking about an ankle. He's saying he hope he doesn't get
surgery. I hope he doesn't get surgery either because Lord knows he's their best option right now,
unless they pull a rabbit out of a hat. He's an athletic dude. Like his legs are important.
that's another consideration.
Young, athletic guy.
What's really important about Jalen Hertz is when he's not passing the ball great in spots.
Like he can still keep the offense going.
And he's a smart kid.
He just makes some quick decisions that aren't there.
I mean, he made some nice quarterback keep running some chunk plays.
And that's going to keep him on the board.
But if you're talking about an ankle now, like it's just, it's going to be an interesting offseason in Philly.
And, you know, these are the names.
And you tell me, pick it.
Kenny Pickett's probably a first half of the first round guy.
Yeah, he's projected top five, top ten at the lowest.
Now, I don't think Roseman's going to move up for anybody in the draft
because I think it says out loud that I think that I'm wrong
because Jalen is his kind of lifeline.
Well, he was gassing him up after the game.
Yeah, after the game, you already know what he's going to kind of do all off season.
But, but.
And none of the, none of the quarterbacks in this draft are going to be better
next season than Jalen would be.
We don't know that about, we don't know that for sure, Reed.
Nobody's slotted to be better.
I think that's a safe assumption, though.
I don't think so.
Really?
There's always one guy.
Nobody thought Mack Jones was going to be any good.
Some of these young fucking quarterbacks are so sad.
They don't, like, they just don't know.
You just don't know.
Whether it's pick it, whether it's fucking corral or something or whether it's Borough.
Look at Joe Burrow.
We just don't know, dude.
What you're telling me is that there won't be a Pro Bowl running quarterback next year.
We just don't know that.
Yeah, you don't know that.
But we just don't know that with certainty, but now that I'm defending the semantics of the situation is going to sound like I'm campaigning to draft somebody.
I'm not.
I just think that like with Howie, if Jalen wasn't his lifeline, he would be trigger happy right now.
You just think the situation needs to be explored a little bit?
No, I'm just laying the situation out for the podcast here.
Okay.
So pick it off the board unless they trade up.
Corral, high teens.
Two first rounders in Willis and Ritter, but I don't like Ritter.
I think Willis is worth a flyer because I think he could be really exciting.
I'd take a shot at him if I had the room for development.
You've also got Bridgewater, Tyrod, Foles, Flacco, Mitch, Dalton, Matt Ryan, James, Jacoby, Deshawn Watson, and Russ, all in the conversation.
Not all of them are free agents, but like Deshawn, we obviously know anything can happen.
Russ, anything can happen.
Matt Ryan, anything can happen.
Okay, so like...
He's a local guy.
He's a local guy.
I'm not saying that some people are going to be like,
he was on there saying that they need to sign Matt Ryan.
I'm just giving you the fucking options here.
So it'll be interesting.
And I think Deshaun Watson would be somebody that they would love to have in town how he would.
Because that's, you know, that solidifies him and gives him another five years no matter what.
But we know that Houston's probably going to hire Brian Flores.
And that's a marriage there that they're trying to make happen in Houston.
all the rumors were that Deshawn Watson wanted to go to Miami because of B-Flow.
B-Flow.
Well, dude, this is what I was kind of thinking.
I don't know if I told you this last night, but, you know,
Collins kind of fired out of nowhere.
B-flow getting...
Cully?
Yeah.
Collie, yeah.
Him getting fired in Miami was kind of a surprise, right?
Yeah.
So, and then all of a sudden, Cully's fired.
Yeah.
All signs are pointing for B-Flo to Houston.
is kind of what you're saying.
I do think that Flores being fired was a catalyst for Cully losing his job.
Because I think they could have sat with Cully for another year.
And I don't want to say like Cully getting fired because that would insinuate that he did not accomplish what he had to do.
Like Cully is a soldier and a high paid soldier this year.
I mean like he's going to come home with $22 million before it's all of a sudden done.
He's coached his ass off his whole life.
He deserves by all account this lifetime achievement award.
I'm sure he didn't want it to go this way,
but I think he also took the job knowing that it could go this way.
And it sucks, but if they get B-Flow out of this,
maybe they, unfortunately, Davis-Mills is not going to be their quarterback.
I just realized next year, which sucks.
Flores is a New England guy, too.
I mean, there's a lot of New England.
There's a lot of Patriots.
Front office, Casario.
Makes too much sense.
I mean, that's kind of what I was thinking.
So hitting these mentions here,
we'll go best plane ride to start.
So you guys mentioned these earlier.
Diggs, Diggs was close to having the best plane ride.
Yeah, Stefan Diggs almost close.
Big win in Buffalo, then to take a flight.
I'm guessing private from Buffalo, Buffalo, New York.
This storm.
Down to Texas to watch his brother play.
Unfortunately, the Cowboys didn't get the win,
but I bet you that was a good experience for him.
Diggs, best plane ride, just missed it
because it would have been great going home.
The Diggs Brothers 2 and O.
Also, Texas protocols, that's fucking risky going down there.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it is.
I'm sure when McDermott heard he was rolling down there,
it was like, I can't stop you, but fuck.
Yeah, man, hopefully he was masked up and he'll be good for the remainder of the playoffs.
The Niners, I think, is the best playing ride so far, right?
Reed, or is it somebody else?
No, the Niners.
Yeah.
I mean, they're pretty much one of the only winning road teams.
Incredible run.
10 days, you know, a week, whatever it is.
They look good.
And they win two games of that magnitude, that juice.
And then they go to Lambo, and that organization has a history of beating up on the Packers.
Like, they're different teams now.
But we'll find out if these defenses are actually any different at their core.
Tough place to play.
Joe Barry, you know, our guy, Petten's gone.
It's different schematically.
Green Bay's getting some guys back.
But fuck, dude.
San Francisco's DNA.
I'm worried about the weather.
San Fran, they're living sweet out there.
They're practicing great.
They just played in a dome.
They are about to go out to cold-ass green bay where it is not going to feel good.
No dome in Wisconsin.
Oh, man.
And to get hit, when you're not used to getting hit in the cold weather.
Well, Beau.
When you're not used to get hit in the fucking cold, I mean, that's a truism, you know.
these warm weather teams.
That's why I think the dolphins are really flawed.
They might want to change school districts
because they're going to have to play, you know,
and that's a funny thing again is
the dolphins are saying out loud
that we're going to run it back with Tua, and we just watch
Josh Allen
score 47 points on the Patriots.
It was zero degrees.
And by the way, that Josh Allen's
getting a game ball. Josh Allen's getting
a game ball. I mean,
what, and this could be worse playing ride.
Patriots.
Patriots. Where's plane ride? By far.
It's just awful. But even Bill
can't be mad at the players because
they just lost every
which way. They lost every which way.
And the Patriots who were supposed to be like cold weather
Hardo team, right? I used to give Julian
Edelman and those guys shit about like all the social
posts. Patriots practice outside and
like sleep. In Foxborough it's
overcast and sleeting. Isn't it funny
that the thing that turned out to be the factor
wasn't the temperature at all?
It was the win the first game. I mean
This game was far colder
And this was an ass kicking
So worst plane ride probably goes to the Patriots
It's got to be tough to lose under some city park lights like that
Fucking that field that new era field
That lighting is just like
Rucker Park white lighting
Like it's it's dimly lit it's FEMA lighting
They just rolled those fucking lights up outside the stadium
And they were like we're gonna kick this shit out of the Patriots
And they did
And they did bro it had to feel dizzying
It's a dizzying place to get beat.
Over under the number of tables that were broken in Buffalo 2000 after the game yesterday.
I'm taking under.
You're going over?
Over.
All of them.
You think of it.
I mean, I don't doubt if there's any team that can do it, this is a stay away for me.
Fly on the wall, man.
Fly on the wall?
I want to be, I guess fly on the wall, but like, you know back when the phones, you know the house phones back in the day.
Yeah.
I want to be like a third party like where your mom picks up.
Yeah.
God damn, I'm talking to fucking Chris.
You get in the segment.
Whatever.
Anyway, I want to listen to the refs talking to Roger.
Oh, there's a lot of cussing.
The rest from the Dallas game.
Jerome.
Jerome Bodger.
Boger.
Yeah.
The thing there is, I mean,
they've been fucking enough all that.
Created something that doesn't exist.
I mean, there was no issue on the play.
And it's an issue now because they blew it dead.
How great of a fucking throw was that by Joe, Joe Burrow?
And that they did, well, yeah, it was a great throw.
It was an amazing throw.
And unfortunately now we're talking about the officials.
Right.
I do want to be on that call.
I also want to be on the call where they give them a security detail in Dallas.
Like, all right, you know, which, which former, like, Jason Bourne guy is going to keep these refs safe?
I want to be on the call from Jerome Boger to the refs from the Cowboys.
Dude, I've fucked up every, Jerome Boger.
I want to be on the call with Jerome Boger.
It's tough.
I struggle with names.
Yeah.
Whatever.
I do.
I mean, I'm the worst on this show.
The call from Jerome Boger to the other rest from the Cowboys game.
Yeah.
Like what does he say to them?
What do they say to him, you know?
Well, there's probably going to be a conference call with Roger emergency.
It's probably going to be a thank you.
Yeah.
Like, hey, thank you guys.
What's the punter from the bill's name?
My fly in the world would be the bills, the bills, the bill's punter calling to see if he's
going to get a DMP because he didn't.
A DMP?
Because he didn't punt, did he?
So does that count as a D&P?
If you don't actually hit the field?
field? Yeah, I mean, he got no snaps or did he get a snap blade in the game? The first seven
possessions were not were not punts. They were touchdowns. And so I actually think this is a great
opportunity to rename an award or create an award called the Matt Hawk Award is for the best job
of the weekend. Like I'd love to have fucking Matt Hawks job. The only thing that sucked about it is
what happens if you have it's cold and you're not moving around. Do they have special teams
meetings? Are they going to have a punt team meeting on, you know, after the game? They'll make sure.
You know the way
You know on a Monday
It's annoying as guys
Like you don't want to sit in special teams
Being too long
Be like yeah we didn't punt
Why were we meeting?
Well we didn't punt
But here's some place from two weeks ago
We should see
Yeah
Yeah
We're gonna have a meeting still
But so that I give the Matt Hawk awards
Might pop up time to time
To the guy with the best job
We got the Hollow Man
The Jalen Rager thing
And on a night when
You know
I don't think this is the kids fault
Devante Smith
He's not taking advantage of out there
I mean like
I'm not saying he didn't show up because a lot
it's like saying a pass rusher didn't show up
when Tom, we're ready to get the ball out in two seconds.
If the throws aren't there for him, if he's not open,
if the plays aren't there, but it's a tough week
for all that wide receiver juju
to come down on Philly.
I mean, like your number one draft pick
does not have a big day.
Two weeks in a row you have bad moments for those two guys.
Beville Conway, we were going to give it to the Niners,
but then this damn, then they turned
the lights on and we went outside
and the Steelers Chiefs. I'm giving it to the Steelers and Chiefs, man.
I like the bills.
the Patriots.
Dude,
it was,
it was cold.
It was like,
I mean,
I thought it was
going to be a low-scoring game,
but it wasn't.
I have a tough,
you know,
division opponent,
like we were talking about
late in the season.
You were talking about those dark lights,
like a bar room.
Yeah,
it's funny.
It's a bar room light or whatever.
Yeah,
it's a funny lighting up there
in Buffalo.
Not surprisingly.
I like that vibe.
I thought I was going to give it
to the Cowboys game,
but all the fans,
they didn't listen to Michael Parsons,
and they didn't really
white it out.
Like,
I would have liked,
and that might have changed the atmosphere.
Yeah, they should have whited it out.
They should have whited it out.
They should have gotten Nate Newton and boys back together.
I've seen a lot of blue jerseys, blue Emmett jerseys.
You can't do a white.
Here's the problem.
You can't do a white out in Dallas because they're all the fans associated with the White House.
Do you know about the White House?
No.
You don't know about the White House?
Do you know about the White House?
Isn't that like their little like place that they would go to like party?
They used to do cocaine and, you know, strippers and the whole thing and regular
you know
was like Michael Urban or what
free as well but like
they were in there doing mountains of cocaine
so you can't do a white out
it's not like it's not like Michael Parsons
thinks he's in the Beaver Stadium
buddy there's a whole context here
that I think is there's too much condative
cocaine stuff
all right so
I'm going to get Steve on here
talk about the rest of the games this weekend
and then we'll close it out and wrap up
talking about Steelers
and chiefs.
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Is that what they say when you're like, I think we should corner the market on breaking the fifth wall on, on ad reads.
I just wanted to peel back the curtain there.
Okay.
We didn't find read on Indeed, but you could find somebody like Read on Indeed, and I think that's why you should use Indeed.
Because if you get a read, you're set.
And then on top of that, I almost did that whole fucking ad read one take, one take hove, messed up the last.
three words. Well, I was literally sitting here about to cheer and be like, that's how you
fucking do it in one take. It may be, maybe, maybe my energy made you slip, slip up. You felt the
pressure. I collapsed, which reminds me the Falcons, which reminds me of a fact I forgot
to mention earlier. They have not had a hundred yard rusher who had two touchdowns since
2016, since I was a New England patriot. Boy, how things have changed. That was Friedman, right?
Yeah, it was Freeman. Yeah. A long time ago.
long time.
Sorry Falcons.
You caught a stray in here.
You caught a stray in here,
like when Devante Adams brought up Nathan Peterman
as an example for like the worst.
Sorry, I don't even know how the Falcons got involved
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Stanford Steve's here.
Steve, you were down at the National Championship.
You survived.
How much of like just a physical football kick
were you on?
Like, could you sleep after that game, dude?
It was nuts.
I actually started the day before.
for Chris, being in indie and seeing Colts fans watch that Colts Jags game last week, it was
no, you did get to see that, double whammy.
Yeah, let's just say I think a lot of people in Indies tabs got a lot bigger for the wrong
reason as the day went on Sunday.
Yeah, there were some people hurt Monday for sure after watching that game.
But that's how you can tell the difference.
Indy fans really bum, but then SEC fans just bounced back like it's a Saturday morning.
morning ready to go. Yeah, no question. And the indie people, if I know anything about them,
they're very proud of their ability to host major sporting events, even though it's like a
totally like down the middle atmosphere and they're very nice people. It's just not LA. It's not Miami,
but they probably took solace in the fact that on Monday they're like, oh, well, we're hosting a
fucking other big game. So yeah, and that was the weird dynamic of it is it was so freaking cold.
Everybody knows Midwest colds, but like that wins. So like if you were walking outside,
Once you got the side of a building, it would just come howling down.
So then you have all the indoor walkways.
So I think everybody was so cold.
Like when there wasn't any, yeah, there wasn't any hooting and hollering.
But then when the game came, I mean, the atmosphere was incredible.
It was awesome to see those fan bases in an NFL stadium take over.
It was an unbelievable atmosphere.
Everything came with it.
And I was just really happy for Georgia the way they did it.
Who do you think helped themselves the most in that game?
Was it like seen or was it like somebody else probably?
Yeah, probably the secondary.
guys for Georgia because that was my question all year. You keep talking about you how you have this
supposed greatest defense of all time or top five. But then you saw the secondary just get
destroyed against Alabama the first time. And then they came back. They, you know, they mixed up
in coverages. Guys made some plays on the ball that they just didn't make it in the SEC championship.
So I think the secondary guys, McCobie Dean is absolutely incredible in person.
I mean, the idea of people saying that he's undersized, you can have all that. Give me,
give me the football player he is any day.
Yeah, I also think like there's some backers out there playing on Sundays right now that
that you're not worried about the size.
I'm wondering how far they can run and how fast they can get there.
You know what I mean?
Like that's where we're headed.
So I don't know.
That was fun.
I was glad you were out there.
I know how much you love games like that.
I thought it was a beautiful game to watch and high drama and just like two great teams,
the whole nine yards.
So fitting end of the season.
And we had like, we had the overtime, you know,
tie gate thing the night before
and then we had the national championship. So
this is the end of an incredible week.
And Steve, I was saying earlier,
I like the way they spread the wild card weekend
and kept a Monday spot for games.
And I know you're a sports calendar guy.
Talk to me about how you feel about this
as opposed to last year's bullshit where we had to watch
eight games in a day.
I don't know. Now after
today, do we really
need to see the Eagles and Steelers
in the playoffs?
No, but this is better than watching the Bears on the Nickelodeon game last year.
Okay.
I agree with you.
So the way the NFL actually fell into something this year is that the two teams that,
listen, the Eagles, they weren't real, right?
But it's a big market.
They're great fan base.
They're so great that they show up in Tampa and they drive a wedge right in the middle
of that Tampa Bay Buccaneers flag that's 300 yards wide.
Did you see that thing?
It's like the size of one of those.
soccer flags and Eagles fans I love them they just walked down through it and the flag looked like a
fucking bow tie did you see that shit bow yeah that's awesome birds fans I love it do you remember when
they took over the stadium in LA when we played the chargers it's amazing charges on silent count so
yeah so yeah they they love those fans Steelers fans who gives a fuck put them in the playoffs make a bunch
of money off them one more year they're going to bet the Steelers 13 and a half big line that was for them
I think it's been good.
Bill's Pats was a hell of a way to kick the weekend off last night, bro.
Surprised?
I am.
I'm really surprised because when you looked at it and everybody kept reference in the first game,
but I went back to the second game in New England knowing what was at stake there.
And seeing Allen play that well on that stage,
knowing who you're going against,
knowing what Belichick is known for when he has a second chance at somebody,
going back to the greatest show on turf and the rematch in the Super Bowl,
slowing them down.
And him playing his probably his best game when you look at everything in its totality
for a stage and then to top that last night with knowing what was at stake,
it was mind-blowing to me to see how everyone else was fighting through the elements
and he's just whipping the ball like there's no tomorrow.
It just shows how good, how strong he is.
Dante Hightower, a couple open looks at him in the open field.
and just bounces off of them.
It just shows you, I hate to say, you know, the superhuman things,
but the attributes that Josh Allen has that no one else does,
we're on full.
Let me ask you this then.
If Josh Allen, you just put the ball on his hands like Travis Kelsey,
I'm not comparing the two,
but he'd probably be a damn good tight end with the ball in his hands.
Like I'm not saying he could block or run routes,
but he's tight end pro bowl level with that ball in his hands.
And so you've got a Cam Newton situation in that.
way. And then you have a guy
that goes out there with
14 mile per hour wins, which your child's play
compared to the ones that kind of handcuffed
that offense the first time. They just
could not get off the field. And if you can't
guard those guys and you can't get up
on them and you can't take chances, like
Patriots can't play man like they did a couple
years ago, they could not
get off the field. I really
and this was the biggest play of the game was
the Micahide pick.
Because if that ball, and it was a beautiful
ball by Mack Jones, who
who rebounded well after that first drive and was damn near got points.
I do not know where he came from.
And I have never seen a ball that I thought was a touchdown that ended up being a pick
like more than that, than that play.
That was the defensive play of the weekend.
And that game is different if they tied at seven.
Yeah, no doubt.
It's still a win for the bills, but I don't want to get carried away.
It's a great play on both parts, Chris, because I think New England gets the first down.
I think he scrambled for it right before that,
or they had a short conversion.
And then right there, you get the ball like midfield.
You have your first 15 scripted.
You know you're always going to have a shot play there.
That's when they took their shot.
But credited Mike Ahai, knowing that game plan
and probably playing against McDaniels so many times,
knowing like, hey, this could be a possibility here.
They got a little momentum first down.
If they're going to try something,
we know they're not a great team going deep.
And then sure enough, he's playing center field back there
and gets there.
it's incredible.
I do question about McDaniel's
not going with the visor.
Usually he's a visor guy
and then we saw the
I think that
affected the mindset maybe.
Well, I mean,
he needs,
then he must wear a visor
the rest of his career.
We said a high floor,
this team.
And this is lower than I thought.
And you're looking at the bills
and the Pats now.
And I know we've talked a lot
over the last year
about the power struggle
in the AFC East
because we're at
this kind of crossroads where you know the team that comes out of the next couple years is going to
stay there like the pats have to be afraid that if they don't go get the playmakers and get them
fast you can't keep up it's the same reason why i thought to a thing saying out loud that you're
going to stick with him you're going to score with this guy up in buffalo you're not it's going to be
hard to score with this guy i mean so this was a big statement win for him he was pumped up you could
obviously see the emotion. He's a quiet guy and I respect that about him, but you could see a lot of
that was pent up. And I'm not putting words in his mouth, but I bet you he's tired of the fucking
Patriots and I bet that was like a lot of fun for him. I think they all were. And I thought I didn't
agree with the play calling at the end, but I thought you saw what it meant to them to punch another one
into an tackle eligible, which is a thing I hate because it takes touchdowns away from tight ends.
But it seems to be working in the NFL right now. But I just thought you saw. I thought it was big for him to
admit why he went back to the long sleeves because it was freaking cold out.
And he didn't have any problem doing that.
So, but yeah, the idea of the Patriots is always the fact that you're not going to beat
them with big chunk, huge plays.
That's their pride.
You know, that's their M.O of not giving up and making you do things that you don't want
to do.
And that was not the case.
It was actually the complete opposite last night.
Not good.
Not good.
Not good.
It's a tough,
tough off season to go into with the pads because you know what's ahead of you.
And they also got beat on a fake spike.
for a sack. You know, you had that drop at the end by Hunter Henry in garbage time. I heard a
clown noise. So like give you one more victory laugh for people at home. I told you about that
over. The bills hit the over on their own up in Buffalo. So big win for them. So they're going to
see the chiefs next week. And that is a hell of a matchup for the chief. So I think I'm going to be
out there in person. I'm going to go see Kyle. And so that's going to be a great game. Sinci,
Vegas, AFC, the game that kicked off the weekend, it turned out to be a high drama game.
Listen, the Bengals are real.
The Red Zone left a lot to be desired, and that's why they let these guys in the game late.
But let's talk about the last play.
What did we think about the last play of the game, the last throw of the game?
Fourth and goal from the 10 or so.
Derek Carr.
Pretty obviously to me that Carr knew where he wanted to go with the ball.
ball.
No, exactly.
Also, the Bengals knew where he was going to go with the ball.
And what an incredible catch.
I mean, that ball was humming.
That was a seed that car threw.
And you really don't see him step back in rear and let it go like that.
He knew he had to get it in a window.
And to be able to pick that ball off was, it was incredible to me.
But yeah, did he rush it?
I don't know.
I think, you know, not taking shots in the end zone earlier.
I thought hurt a little bit to try and back that defense off to give you.
you know, some run-throughs on, you know, on mesh routes early on.
So I thought it was, again, great game plan defensively for Cincinnati.
I also thought their past protection was incredible yesterday.
And that's where you needed it, knowing that Joe likes to hold on to the ball a little extra time to give his guys.
He has so much confidence in on the outside.
So I thought Cincinnati's O line was tremendous and their defense buckled up when they had to.
And that was the game.
I didn't like where he went with the football.
and we've given Derek Carr love because, you know, he deserves it.
And, you know, maybe you could argue that it would have been nice to see him win a playoff game and that sort of thing.
But you fall just short because you decide where you want to go with the ball.
And you actually throw it a yard short of the goal line.
Like, so it just long walk for a short fall.
And, you know, it sucks because we like the guy.
Third and 17 was a bullet to keep that drive going.
Third and ten was awesome.
But the Bengals.
you know, kind of got the cushion they needed in one sequence.
You had the bad special teams play.
You know, he had the right idea, wrong execution,
where you straddle the line and possess the football,
and you get the ball in the 40.
Instead, it pins them.
They're down 10-3.
Bengals go up 13-3,
and then they have a chance after the Deshawn drop in the Reds
on 13-6 to stop the Bengals.
They go down 20 to 6, and that's it.
That's when Burrow put the cell phone on Divine Diablo's ear.
Dude, that was one of the fucking sickest throws I've seen.
He hit him with the car phone, dude.
It was just right here.
But Burrow is real.
The skill guys are real.
They're finding ways to protect, and they've got two edge rushers.
Yes.
So this is a team that a few weeks ago, a month or two ago,
like prominent people didn't think they were real.
They are real.
I'm not saying they're going to win the whole thing,
but when you have those type of skills,
you got a quarterback, you got edge rushers,
you got playmakers, you got a running back.
I can look past some of their weaknesses.
They have a shot if they see Buffalo in the AFC championship.
I don't know.
Like I think they can score with them a little bit.
Well, I mean, they definitely did the job against Kansas City.
I just look at, I think the public's going to be all over Cincinnati this week.
No one with Burroughs capable.
People love offense.
You see that play.
And then here you come.
You know, we talk about Tennessee a lot more than other people do, I feel like.
and that's not a problem for me.
I love talking about Tennessee
because I've said it all year.
They don't give a shit who you are
because they know who they are.
They're not afraid to anybody.
And nobody's afraid of them either.
So that's what I think is a great matchup.
And I'm really fascinated to see
if Cincinnati could protect Joe again
knowing what's at stake.
If he knows he has guys that can win on the outside,
I'm really interested to see what Tennessee brings to the table
defensively as far as a game line
because they do have guys that can get after you up front,
and that's a huge matchup for Cincinnati.
And you're right,
like the public's going to be all over Sinci.
And I think,
you know,
until this Kansas City run,
which is now threatening the total here at 48 for me,
people would have been all over the bills,
but I think that'll be a great game,
much different than the first one early in the year.
But I do think if you had,
for some reason,
a Buffalo Sincey matchup,
I do think Sinci can score with Buffalo.
I do.
I mean,
I think it's at least a game.
So they're for real.
They're not just like, I think they've proven that they're a real team.
And Joe Burrow with those fucking glasses.
I mean, he's just, you know.
He's got that youthful energy, man.
He does have that youthful energy.
His TikTok, his TikTok is off the chain.
And he's cold.
He's ice cold in the pocket.
He's cool.
I mean, he's ice cold.
I think he's sweet.
He's awesome.
So San Francisco Dallas, that's the other NFC game here.
That was a fucking great game when it came down to it, but decided.
decided decided well I want a lot of money on it I got you all right understood there there was drama
and I marvel at Kyle at times and I marvel at Mike McCarthy for the wrong reasons at times
it's just a lot of drama in that game yeah and here's one thing I'll say is I mean you guys
played a way higher level than I did and the idea this is one thing I don't understand when internet
and everybody just obviously McCarthy's an easy target to go but when you have that many false starts
and you have that many
defensive holds,
offensive holds.
Why is that the coach's fault?
It's not, but the last play is the coach's fault.
Why, you don't think they practiced that?
They practiced it.
They didn't take into account that it might be a fucking traffic jam
trying to get the ball spotted.
Well, see, I go back to Dak.
He can't run that far.
You've got to know you can't run that far.
You got 12 yards.
Yeah, it's not yard.
It's the clock that's most important in that situation.
Exactly.
dude. That's exactly right. That's what we said earlier.
If he gains seven and
that's your plan, but I don't think it's worth it
because a seven-yard gain does not
does not change the outcome
on a shot. Like, you know,
it looked a lot better to pick up that chunk,
but to get that chunk, you risk the entire game,
right? So I think you... And the whole
lines got to run farther than they thought they were going to
have to us. You put yourself in peril. The refs
got to run farther and he thought he had to do. Right.
That's what I was saying. I mean... Yeah. And
so McCarthy, fourth and two, he punts
and he's kind of like bailed out
by Jimmy G throwing that pick because we literally said on the live stream,
when they punt this ball, the only way Mike McCarthy looks good is he's playing the odds
that Jimmy throws the ball back to them.
And he won.
And, you know, there were times where both teams weren't that aggressive.
I actually, if I'm-
No doubt.
If I'm Shanahan.
First quarter.
Yeah.
I'm going in some of those short-yarded situations.
That's just me.
But, you know, especially late, one of the most interesting things was,
you did not want to end up in a situation where you had,
to as Kyle Shanahan,
give the ball back to Dallas down Nick Bosa and Fred Warner.
Like that's almost like the Harbaugh making decisions based on how thin he is.
Personal.
Yeah.
Like, you have to take that in a consideration.
So it scared me to give the ball back to them.
And guess what?
We ended up.
There was a punt late where Shannon opted to punt the ball on fourth in a couple yards.
I forget what it was.
And Dalton Schultz for 38.
and the first play, now you're in the same position defensively.
Had you gone for it.
So there were some uncharacteristically not aggressive decisions by the Niners,
but maybe they're less aggressive than I think they are.
I don't know.
Yeah.
And then just going back to the players versus the coaches deal again,
like Garapolo also, like in that fourth and fourth and inch after the review,
you know you're lining up your formation to the right.
You're going to motion Williams over to the right to make it.
look like you're running power or whatever that way.
You have to make sure Williams
is set knowing you are
running a quarterback sneak there.
But it's like they got a little bit too cute.
That's what I said.
That's exactly what I said.
I go before that play, I said
the only way they fuck this up is Kyle
Shanahan, the one thing that's wrong with Kyle Shanahan
and I think he's the, I think he's damn near a perfect
coach. But I think that like he
can sometimes be like the guy in a
video game who's bored with winning.
And he's like, I got to do this a spectacular
kind of way. And there was
no need to do this tackle shift thing.
Like pick the yard up and you put yourself in peril and there's a flag and now the game
is different. Possibly.
But then also, I mean, you got to give them credit for the play before that.
They come and line up.
He calls timeout and puts in the reverse.
Yeah.
Like that, that's next level stuff that I think.
I love, I'm big supporter of Kyle Shanahan.
I will also say this, not to say two things that would detract from his greatness as a coach,
but like, Debo Samuel is a coach's best friend.
Debo Samuel will get you out of bad calls, like the whole thing.
Like he's going to break two tackles.
He's going to turn a three-yard loss into a seven-yard gain.
Like he is legitimately a coach's best friend offensively outside of quarterback.
Swiss Army night.
Swiss Army night.
Do it all.
And Kittle, man.
I was close to thinking it was going to be on him and that would suck.
But on that incompletion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, there's a lot of drama in that game.
And if you're Dallas, man, you've got to be with the heat that Jerry puts on Mike and all that stuff.
Like, they're going to be talking about this game for a couple months now.
Like, this plays into the Dallas Cowboys manuscript since fucking, since 1997.
Like, they're just not, they're not primetime show up guys.
No.
And when you look at it, I had some guys go back and look, this is the seventh time since they won at Super Bowl.
95, they've gone to the playoffs and lost their first game.
And so many of those are at home also.
Yeah.
It's just not a good recipe.
And it's just, it's got to feel like Groundhog Day for them.
You know, you have everything you want.
The last couple of weeks, you got healthy.
The defense has been awesome.
You get Lawrence back, all that.
And then, you know, Diggs doesn't look good today.
Then they, you know, they talk about the finger.
Like, everything just came.
I mean, and then I just love the attitude San Francisco plays with, man.
Like, I mean, coming out of a locker room.
with the boom box with Debo, like, and knowing what you have to do and coming down and
stuffing it down their throat to go up seven nothing on the road.
That's just, it can't go any better than that.
But people were picking the 49ers all week too, which is interesting.
That's the funny thing.
This was the rare game that people did the, like the 49ers were the sharp play and it was
also the public play.
Like, it was.
And it actually worked out like that.
It actually.
Exactly.
At home and, you know, but it became, but think about this.
Like Dallas, everybody bets, there's a million.
Cowboys fans and the money was still and the bets were still on the Niners like squarely.
So it was just such a weird week and, you know, it's now the Cowboys, there are stars in their own
movie and they're the same scene every year.
So it sucks.
The moment is maybe too big for that team.
I don't know.
Well, it doesn't suck.
Who am I kidding?
Fuck them.
Whatever.
I don't mean it like fuck the players, but here's the one thing that was funny to me and I'll
give out a late award.
the fly on the wall. I want to be in the meeting where Jerry's fucking interrogating the
architects like he didn't ask for the giant sunbeam going down to midfield like it's a mega
church and Joel Olsteen's doing the plans bro. Like the Cedric Wilson that fucking drop was a big
deal. That's three points. But it looks sick in pictures for the gram, bro. It looks so cool in pictures
Miller lights happy. Yeah. Come on. Definitely does. People want that. But that drop was it
it was and it wasn't the kids fault.
And it's the same thing with the giant jumbo screen, right?
Jumbo screen and the ball hitting the punt,
the pun hitting.
Or like you're sitting the bench or you're on the field
you're trying to watch the play
or figure out what's going on with the game.
You have to look straight up.
They can't get Van der Esch's name right on the back of his jersey.
You think they're going to get the fucking.
I guess the stadium they've sacrificed.
It's like the aesthetics of it are more important than the fundamentals.
It's a lot like the Cowboys.
It's a lot like the Cowboys.
So not to end of the show if you're a Cowboys fan on a bad note.
but Steve actually let's do Arizona, L.A., what do you think happens?
L.A. is favored by four at this point, laying four points.
I feel like these two teams are a lot like the Cowboys.
You know, we flaunt over how they look all season and how pretty they are offensively.
Right.
And now they got to play, like somebody's going to win in advance.
But what do they have to, like they know, we know what they got to do.
Stafford's got to be better than he has been.
Kyle's got to be play well on a stage that he's never played on.
I thought it was cool that Cliff said he expects him to come out and play the best game of his career.
Like I like when somebody has the backing of that.
But Arizona's defense, I think it has a lot of pressure on them.
The idea of JJ possibly coming back and knowing how, you know, with Acres coming back,
how McVeigh loves to stretch you wide.
Yeah.
With those zones and then go, you know, with the boot.
Are we going to see the old school boots off of that with with the comeback routes on
the other side. Cooper's a matchup nightmare because if you try and overload all with with that
misdirection, Higby's healthy and he and he's been awesome the last couple weeks. So I think it comes
down to Arizona's defense. I expect the Rams defense to play well. And going back and watching
that that game a couple weeks ago, I mean, Donald was, I mean, first play, he blows it up. I mean,
he just messes so many things up.
of what you want to try and do.
And sometimes it's not even with movement.
You just know he's going to hold that anchor,
that line of scrimmage in the middle.
And I think that really affects a guy like Kyler,
where he needs as much vision as possible in the pocket.
So I think it comes down to Arizona's defense.
If Arizona's defense steps up,
I expect a close game, but I like the Rams.
You know what's scary about Aaron Donald on that matchup relative to what
Kylo looks out every other week?
Look at the last play of the last Rams Cardinals game.
happened on Monday night where Aaron, you know, is 12 yards face up from Kyler Murray.
Now, it's a hail Mary.
It's the scariest place to have to close on a quarterback.
It's the scariest quarterback to have to close.
And Aaron just runs right at him and runs right through him.
And so Kyler can bank on, you know, backpedaling out of the pocket at times and creating
and all that stuff.
But to have the speed and head out of the back of the pocket because Aaron Donald's
pressure and Vaughn Miller's right there.
But you can't do it.
Yeah, you can't do it because the different levels.
We talk about that all the time.
The levels rushing, like, you know, Vaughn turned it on.
That last game, that was like a playoff atmosphere game.
Vaughn dip for a sack late in the game and you're getting everything you want out of these guys.
Now, they're down, I think, a safety.
Two.
Two safeties.
Because they sign Weddle.
He hasn't played.
He's starting.
Eric Weddell is off the couch.
He's off the couch.
Get him 70 snaps.
It's off the couch.
Let's go.
Let's see.
Let's see what's up.
It's going to be high drama.
I think, you know, like, there are questions
in secondary for the Rams, but you're right.
I hope the Rams play well, man.
I feel like there have been times this season.
They've been strangely disappointing.
Both teams.
I think they're so similar to me.
And you're like, what's so on?
Except one is built a little bit more, at least on paper to me for the postseason.
And that's the Rams getting their run game.
And they're very physical.
And, you know, you've got, you know, Jalen Rams in the secondary,
who's your best player, but he's a physical player.
Aaron Donald's your best player, but he's a physical player.
you know, offensively,
Matt Stafford is the big question mark
and it's, hey, Stafford
who's been waiting his whole life to do this.
I think the only shot at the playoffs they had,
they lost in New Orleans.
I think it was down in New Orleans that week.
He was a wild card weekend.
He lost to Dallas as well.
So this is his chance and, you know,
to get a new lease, you know, on life,
go to L.A., have all these toys.
There is a lot to lose for him.
So the drama of Monday night is going to be crazy.
I have the Rams.
I'm not going to overthink it.
I think they're the better team, and I think they're the more complete team at this point in the season.
Cardinals on the road, man.
They only lost one game on the road so far.
So far this year, I think they play well on the road.
And just the distraction factor, I think L.A. to have a playoff game and the atmosphere to wait all day for that night game out there.
You have to worry about stars and people hitting you up for last minute tickets and all this other BS.
Like, no one cares that you got to get ready for a game.
and your family.
You got to do like Eric Dickerson stuff.
He was on the podcast last week talking about having sex before games.
It's like an L.A. thing.
I don't know.
It's got to be exhausting.
It has to be.
No, but that's going to be a great game and a great finish the weekend.
There was one thing I wanted to, oh, you know what it was?
Kingsbury was doing losing late in the season was because he knows that stat you just spit out.
That they lose on the road.
They went on the road a lot.
So they didn't want home field advantage.
Mine games.
Mine games.
They don't like that drive out to the big microwave in the middle.
We all know as players, it's less to worry about when you're on the road.
Once you get away from your household, it's kind of a little bit.
It's a little bit of a relief.
The silent count part sucks.
No hot tub in the visiting locker room sucks.
The bus rides the stadium.
Maybe the people fucking upstairs in the hotel.
That part sucks.
But like, yeah, otherwise, it's like, yeah, the road's not too bad, especially for the
Cardinals.
All right, cool.
Steve, next week, we'll be.
we'll be back in some capacity.
I might be in Kansas City, but
I love the new headphones.
Are they new?
They're Scots.
Scott's headphones. You took Scott's
Hedons office. Steve, thanks for joining us.
I appreciate you guys. Don't have too much fun after this.
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Josh Allen this weekend stats it's cold weather I wanted to see you know what he looked like
throwing the ball in cold weather and as we just talked about with Steve it ended up not
mattering one thing we forgot to mention was he was not great in games under 32 degrees I mean
including the Falcons game late in the season so pretty incredible like four
completions last night and how many degrees at the start of the game.
Seven degrees of the start.
So less touchdowns than incompletions.
Yep.
And he also had less incompletions than the amount of digits on the Fahrenheit scale.
Oh, we're getting scientific.
When's the last time that happened?
Somebody doing stat crunches somewhere needs to do that shit.
Find out when the last time in the modern era of football, when they actually throw the football,
there were more.
AWS stat.
Good luck.
Good luck, yeah, good luck writing that social out, but there's a stat there.
Somebody needs to get on it.
Credit us.
Four incompletions.
It was eight degrees.
Next 10 years in the AFC, fucking, bro.
That's not like he was checking it down either, but no.
He was slinging it, bro.
Burrow, Allen, Mahomes.
Yeah, you love to see that.
Have fun, dude.
And I like watching the AFC better than the NFC anyways.
Oh.
I do.
Just going to slip that in there with.
With no comment?
Something about it.
I don't know.
I just like the AFC, man.
Never played in it.
Well, I played in it for a year.
But one last thing about the bills.
We didn't mention this.
Both those coordinators were interviewing for jobs.
And I heard more than a few people say, hey, they're going to be distracted.
Davele, Frazier, interviewing for head coaching jobs as we speak, probably.
And they knocked it out of the park.
So those guys did a really nice job.
They did not have a Matt Eber Fluse game against Jacksonville,
of the team that he was getting ready to interview before.
He did not have his best day defensively as a Colts coordinator.
Speaking of coaches, I want to get you guys take on something before we send the people home.
If you're a player in that locker room in Vegas, are you like Max Crosby, like Derek Carr,
calling for him coming back next year?
Absolutely.
I mean, think about all the shit they've been through.
And you're thinking about, I mean, I don't want to get too deep into this.
but like your head coach got fired.
There's a player in your team.
The Midwest people that say fired.
I love that shit can.
Fired.
You got shit can.
Got fired.
Yeah.
One of your huge, one of your offensive
filmmakers is, you know,
had a horrible,
committed a horrible crime and is in jail.
Yeah.
Like very publicly.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And then a bunch of other crazy shit.
There's another,
they went to the Arnath thing.
They played well.
There were one play away.
You've all heard the litany of
reasons that this is unlikely in Vegas.
And I mean, just having a football team in Las Vegas, this Bascea guy's, like a movie character
coming in, having the paternal tough vibe, the straight man to Gruden's clown show that
was just kind of like falling off.
You saw the video on the sideline like you're doing a great job, coach.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, that was kind of cool.
And so just hearing those players ask for him back.
I mean, like, I hate to say it, but now you just can't leave.
But you know, like, like you can't think that they're going to keep him around.
I mean.
I mean, it's going to be hard.
with your best player on defense and your best player offensively,
think of all the people you're going to have to.
I know it's not how it works.
I know it's not how it works.
It's a great effort to see what they're doing.
So what odds are you going to give me since it's not how it works?
I'm going to bet you that they're going to retain Basatia.
I think they should.
I just don't think they will.
Yeah, I agree with that statement.
I don't know if they will.
I just feel like that organization, they just like, I don't know.
I don't know if they're going to if they're going to listen to the players all the way.
But so what coach are you like, yep, you know, you just had the big name.
You just had the big contract.
But as a owner.
You've got a guy like Rich who's not going to cost you a lot of money and you ride the momentum
into next year and then figure it out after this year.
Like who in this hiring cycle is going to make you is going to move you to unseat this guy
that by the way.
Two great two coordinators are big great.
I mean, there's a lot of sexy names out there, man.
Yeah, but this guy just proved that he's a head coach.
I agree with you, but it's not flashy.
It's not like a hot.
No, I understand that.
I totally understand that.
I know it's unlikely, but I'm just telling you that sometimes...
I think if they win...
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I mean, yeah, I agree with you.
You paid all that money, and you got the same result.
Next year, you can reevaluate.
The two coordinators you just mentioned, they're great, the whole thing.
But I'm just telling you, that Max Crosby and that Derek Carr saying something,
you cannot
You shouldn't ignore it
You should not ignore that
And I don't know that
It's gonna put the next guy in the cross airs
But what does it do for the owner?
Like if you like then
Anytime your star players call out for something
Are you agreeing with them?
It's a tough precedent
It's like a parenting thing
But at the same time
If you're an owner
Then the next time you say
Well this is fucking different
Like Chris earlier
Like you just be a leader
In a situation like this
If you think if you like Basatia
And you're afraid to make the decision
if you're Mark Davis, if you're afraid, hold on,
but if you're afraid to make the decision
and you're on the edge of making the decision anyways
and those players nudge you,
then it's kind of off, it's not even your fault if the guy,
like the players have to own that year.
Owners do not listen to players though.
No, but if it gives them a free year, they kind of do.
But let me ask you this.
How do we know that
are we taking that them saying that?
is that the overall
like feeling of the locker room
are we are we just assuming
that Derek Carr and
Crosby just they enjoy this coach
so much that they they went out and said
this or do you feel like the entire
locker room feels like that because what if
the owner or whoever is in charge
they go through meetings these exit meetings
and they're asking everyone else and maybe
what if it's not the same temperature if
if the owners are having exit meetings with players
outside of the the leadership
group. I mean, like, I have a hard time imagining they're going to, you know,
our guy Will Compton, which that's why they lost this game because they cut him.
Playoff room. You know, but I have a hard time imagining the owner sitting down with 30th
guy in the roster. I also think that when Max and Derek say these things, they could easily
opt out of that sound bite. They could say, here's how you say it. We've all been here. I've
been here. Do you think that this interim head coach should retain their job? I think he's done an
amazing job. I think the offseason,
like we just lost a tough game.
Like, let's all just huddle.
I'm sure, like, we appreciate his, his
contribution. Let's figure it out, but
tonight's not the night. Like, that's,
that's your side step. I think the
Raiders have had a head start
on the coaching cycle a little bit.
Yeah. You know what I mean? So I feel like they've kind of
already made up their fucking mind. Also, another thing
is you lose all that stability of all those really
good coaches if you bring in a new guy.
You've got all these, these
Gus Bradley's, these Marinelli's
these experienced cats.
Yeah.
And you would probably reset the whole process and you'd have a bunch of new coaches.
And those are the strengths to your team as well.
I do think they have a special thing in that locker room.
And I think that this guy has rubbed off and been positive, but he's got to convince Mark Davis that he's a guy.
Hey, there was a dildo on the field in Buffalo.
We didn't mention it.
We did not mention that.
I mean, I feel like we should have been discussing that a while ago.
Yeah.
My question is, what happens if the small case when you're walking into the game,
and you go through security and for whatever reason they search you and they find this dildo on your person
i feel like they just give you a knowing look and kind of take away they can't they can't take a dildo away
if it's in your tsa clear bag it's a dildo like what imagine i would flip the script on them so fast
it's like my emotional support dildo what do you mean i can't have a dildo in the stadium what is this
thought this was america yeah fuck dude like i would go a whole but yeah they'd
be a whole, I'd get a feature on the local news. You think that there were other dildos that were brought
into, like, or that people tried to, I wonder what them. Supposedly, this is, this is like a tradition
for them. Like, this happens a lot. Yeah, no, I saw a dildo years ago that fell on the field, but never
in this biggest spot. And I got to be honest, for such a big spot, not the biggest dildo.
I mean, you got to smuggle it in, though, Chris. Like, you're right. I don't know. I mean,
let's think about that. Buffalo needs to come correct the next. Buffalo needs to come correct the next
I mean, throw a dildo on the field.
Do you think other fans tried to...
It wasn't the right color to be bigger, obviously.
What I was wondering, though, is did they bring other dildos in and they got caught?
So there's just a box, there's a cardboard box for a dildos.
No, I'm just, I don't think they bring them in, like, in mass.
I just think, like, at any given time, what would you say there's four dildos in that stadium?
No, I'd say way more than that.
You think the over on that.
Kingston thinks the over on the dildos.
No, I would say...
You were talking about Buffalo.
There's dills everywhere.
How many people are...
but is that stadium holds 60,000 plus or something,
there's definitely at least 200 people.
You think 200 dildos at all time there?
I think you're way over on that.
I think 20.
Fitzpatrick was out there with his shirt off.
He probably had a dildo in his pocket, bro.
You think Fitsy had a dildo in his pocket.
That's your buddy.
You hit him up.
He's been on the show.
I love Fitz.
He's amazing.
By the way, I just had this thought.
Rich Pesatia, to close the loop on that.
Bob Stoops has an office in Norman.
They need a fucking office for Rich Pesatia
in that,
in that stadium.
If he decides he wants to move on,
if you move him on,
like if he doesn't want to coach
somewhere else next year,
he deserves an office in that stadium,
like a Bob Stub set up.
Do you think that they're going to do that?
No,
dear, I don't know.
They like the thought.
I like the thought, too, Chris.
Satire, bro.
Don't be like one of those listeners
that doesn't know I'm joking.
God damn, I'm saying something ridiculous.
Give me back to shit I know what I'm talking about,
like the dildos.
That's my,
that's my,
that's my,
that's my expertise.
Tell us about it.
Okay, so which game do we like best next week?
So next week we have the Packers 49ers.
Okay, Packers, Nineers.
The Bucks are going to play the winner of the Rams Cardinals.
And then the Titans will play the Bengals,
and the Bills and the Chiefs will roll against each other.
Man, this might be one of the best divisional weekends in a while.
We got possibly Rams Bucks, which will be...
The Bucs go to L.A. for that?
I know that.
I think they'll go to...
Tampa.
No,
yeah.
So the Rams will go to Tampa.
That's going to be a hell of a physical football game.
My goodness.
I'm going to have so much fun watching,
you know,
Jalen Ramsey and Mike Evans argue.
Aaron Donald and Ryan Jensen,
if he's back.
Tom Brady and anybody.
Yeah,
I think the Rams,
I'm fucking putting the Rams in that thing.
Yeah.
Now,
if the Rams don't win,
you said what,
Reed?
Same.
Cardinals,
that game's going to suck.
Give us Rams,
bucks.
Too much red in that matter.
matchup anyways put it in the hangar ran it in the hangar yeah put it in spin it yeah it's like the manatees
on south park pick the games uh one last gasp here in this game fourth and two for the the
the steelers with eight minutes ago this game's been over the chiefs will play the bills bouncing around
here uh that game is going to be off the chain that's that game is going to be so fucking good
arrowhead's going to be so live and i might see it in person i might try to get out there and see
Kyle. That game's incredible and we'll be much different than the game that we saw the first
time around this year. And I think the way the bills just beat the Pats bet the Chiefs this
week. I'm just saying. I think they're just going to be slumped or what? No, it's just whatever the
line is, I think I think people are going to be so reactive and the under keeps getting just
obliterated here. It's 4221. People are hugging. Game is over. James Washington. I think people are
react so viscerally to
the pads getting throttled
on Saturday night. I think the pads
and the Steelers is kind of different
I mean people don't think that way
dude. I don't know. I'm kind of on a
heater. I like the Chiefs. I think the Chiefs
whatever that line is. I don't know what you think the line is.
I thought the Bells were fucking good.
Yeah. They were fucking good. The line is 2.5 exactly as you
predict. I predicted. I predicted the line
so you tell me. It tells me that you gamble too much.
Yeah, I know what I've been winning lately but I
by to three points for sure
because the chiefs are home dogs
and chiefs being home dogs as mad
as they're going to be.
That's going to be a good football game.
I think it's going to be a good football game.
I like the Rams and the Bucks game.
I've already put them ahead.
It's a foregone conclusion.
I'm going to get dunked on so bad
Tuesday morning because I've already
I got the Rams beating the bucks the whole thing.
Titans bangles, that's going to be a fucking fun
game.
Yeah.
Because you just never know what you're going to get.
you never know
and the Titans are getting healthy a little bit
and we get to see Derek Henry
coming back we haven't seen them for sure
how many weeks he's coming back now
are we are we
he's coming back
Kingston says he's coming back
so like how many weeks well
I don't know how many weeks
been forever I know I know
everyone's waiting
Sandlot forever
forever
that's how the Titans feel about
how long Derek Henry's been out
forever
they're kind of gritty dude
I know but they still want
Derek Henry back
right but they've been the fucking number one
without him, which is a testament to them.
It's Coach of the year, Mike Vrable.
Can't wait to see that box.
They're going to be running on defense when they see
when they see Derek Henry again.
Because regardless if he's effective or not,
you have to stop the box.
And we're going to see, it's going to be a good game.
Well, I'm excited about that game as well, Titans, Bengals.
That'll be unpredictable.
And then the other game that we haven't mentioned
is going to be Niners, Packers.
I would think that you're going to see the chiefs at night.
I think you're probably going to see Titans Bengals in an afternoon spot.
I think you probably see Packers and Niners at night as well.
So I would say, and I think I'm going to make the Packers four and a half point favorites at home.
It's four and a half.
Okay, so you hear that?
It's four to half.
Wow.
So I'm not looking at anything.
I'm looking at my notes.
Packers are favored by four and a half?
Fuck, I'll guess.
Let me guess the Titans Bengals line.
I'm thinking the Bengals are going to be three point favorites on the road.
Flipped.
Titans are three point favorites.
Bet the Bengals, man.
So one through four, most exciting to least exciting watches for you all.
I want to see the Bills and the Chiefs.
Okay.
I don't know.
I'm going to NFs.
Like, I love watching games in Lambo.
Yeah, that's going to be fun.
Because I think that's a historic stadium.
I mean, it's outside.
It's, I feel like you don't get, dude, there's fucking nothing going on.
Green Bay. That shit is going to be
awesome. Beautiful uniforms and
can they slay that San Francisco
Dragon? Can they answer the bell?
Aaron Rogers, a lot of pressure on
him. With everything he said, with everything
he's done, like he's got to show up
and play like he's played all year in the postseason.
He knows that. He's been balling.
He's been fucking balling.
Filled with all the owners
of the green owners.
The proud owners. That's true.
Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's probably
those are probably the two marquee ones we've already
said that they're probably not games. I am really excited to watch the Titans though.
There's no game that I'm not excited to see and I'm just this is amazing. And again,
I want to play off Odell, playoff Odell, which is going to be great. We're going to have a lot
of Baker Mayfield tweets. He'll be catching strays the entire game, which sucks. But I want
to close and say one thing. I've made this announcement 15 times on the live stream. I'm going to do
it on the podcast. I'm going to try and you guys hold me accountable here, Reed. You see me
tweeting a bunch from my phone, you know, or all day, tell me I'm full of shit. You got to say
in those words. But I am off of Twitter. I've deleted the app on my phone. The, the, the council
exists. If you see me tweeting, it's probably in my home office, which is my bathroom, on my
laptop, my little office, that's where I'm firing the, the hottest takes, the hot brown coming down.
The takes are coming down and the hot browns coming down and and I'm going to let both of them fly.
And that's probably, I'm on the commode when you read my tweets.
Can I can I, can I control your, your Twitter for like a day?
Dude, I would rather like play Russian roulette.
I just want to post my Pokemon YouTube, bro.
Huh?
I just want to get my Pokemon YouTube at a thousand subscribers.
I don't know what you could do to make me let you take.
over my Twitter account.
I'm not saying I want to burn my house down.
Like I just,
I just saying it's good for my mental health to not tweet as much.
What about Instagram?
Instagram too.
I deleted that too.
And that's not even a thing that bothers me so much.
It's just the constant I have to answer or see what's going on.
Like that's an illusion.
We're going to miss some shit on this podcast from time to time that I didn't see tweeted.
And you'll,
you'll all be okay.
and if you think I got to be online all day
for you to be interested in this podcast
you probably aren't going to like the rest of the way
because things are changing now, guys.
Whatever date it was on Tuesday or Wednesday
whenever I did this,
that's a national holiday in this in Studio J.
My life is better now.
I've been seeing it in black and white.
It's now in color.
Speaking of holidays.
And guys, yeah, Martin Luther King Day is tomorrow.
And for the record,
we're all going to be off MLK Day
and Reed, you got an hour to edit this show and get it out the door.
Because at midnight, it's going to be problematic if you're up in here.
Okay.
It's going to be fucking problematic.
Okay.
That's the way we land this plane.
Happy Martin Luther King Day.
So everybody is going to be out of the office here in the next hour when the clock strikes an M.K.K.
That's the plan, right, guys?
Okay.
And everybody's technically off tomorrow, but this is Sunday night.
We had to get the job done.
but happy Martin Luther King Junior Day to everybody out there.
Anything, guys?
Words of wisdom, Bo, you come in time.
I ask you to, you know.
Yeah, I just want to say thanks for having me up here, Chris.
Oh, dude, thank you for being here.
There it is.
There it is.
We were, we had a good time.
We had a good time, Nate.
Yeah, it was a great meeting you.
We had fun, man.
Yeah, it was a great all the way around.
Full day of football and hanging out and playing the switch.
3D linemen in one couch.
Oh, yeah.
Switch with Chris's kids.
kids. I brought Bo over like he was
Geeks Squad. I talked to big game. He was going to fix our switch.
You couldn't fix the switch. Kids were like...
This was yesterday after we went on a little drive.
Yeah. Well...
And let's just say my
tech skills weren't up to par.
When you got to the grid.
Bo Allen, Nate Collins.
Appreciate you. And
we'll see you next weekend for
Divisional weekend.
One of the best in sports.
Go, Pat. Go.
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