Green Light with Chris Long - Big Cat! Aaron Rodgers to the Jets, Fatherhood & 'I'm Not Him' Moments Draft

Episode Date: April 25, 2023

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Tennessee, y'all too, 1-800-8-9. 99789. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. Today we welcome Big Cat. He jumps into Studio J to draft all time. I'm not him moments with Chris and Macon. We also talk plenty about fatherhood, big barstool move to Chicago, NBA playoffs, and Big Cat's career in real estate.

I also get back to our roots with a little succession recap and your hello and layup line. Y'all please enjoy. We got Big Cat today. We rolled in the Big Cat. We've got the Big Cat. Big Cat on Aaron Rodgers Day. Yeah, no, no, no. So the news broke while we were on with Big Cat.

So you're going to want to hear his exclusive reaction. Barstle is going to put out a bunch of reactions. Big Cat's going to do various content surrounding Aaron Rogers, but this is the exclusive reaction. There was only one real-time reaction on this show. And we're going to do the I'm Not Him draft. You know, for all the I'm Not Him moments or people in history with, with Dan. So we'll get into that. It was a lot of fun talking to him.

You know, pretend for a second like my 82 year old dad's listening. What does him mean? Him means like, I think to be him, there has to be a tall task or a big moment. And there's a certain, and maybe in some of these situations that we drafted, they don't really qualify. But I think generally being him means big task, big moment, and you meet the challenge. You rise to the occasion. Or somebody like the sword and the stone guy. I don't want to give away my whole draft board for when we do the I'm him draft.

But you know like hey, there's a fucking sword in the stone. Oh, I just had one. Nobody can get it out. Him Donagie, you know? Tim Donagie. I think I could fix a basketball game easily and have nobody ever find out. So you're saying he was him for that?

He was not him. That's the example of not being in him. Yeah, he got caught. Yeah, right. With Ian Rogers News, do you think Zach Wilson's going to end up him or not him because of what he said after last season when he said if they bring in a veteran quarterback, I'm going to make his life hell? Not him?

Zach Wilson. He's had a few not him moments. Yeah, I don't know. I don't what. Here's the thing about being him though that's so hard is like Zach Wilson's been him for 99% of his life. He's been him everywhere he's gone and he earned it. The mom's telling him that for sure. Yeah, they do. Yeah, you're him. But like he's been him in every room he's been in. There's one room where it's the hardest to be him and it's American professional sports. And I really do think it's like basketball and football are the two that's just like the temperature is so high. And the talent is so high that it's hard to be him. And it hasn't been that long. So somebody will give him another shot. But there are worse lots in

life than being an NFL backup quarterback. Isn't that fucked up? You work your whole life to be him and you're like really, you really are him. And then all of a sudden like a bunch of people who are not even in the conversation to be not him. Like, you know, they're not even in the, they're not even on the radar. They're not on the draft board. They get to tell you you're not him. It's hard being a professional athlete.

It's hard being Zach Wilson. They're only, they're only 32 of those starting quarterback jobs. 32. Yep. You know how many real estate agents there are in the world? Hundreds. Yeah, we were going to,

we were going to do a hello. Kaccounta, Wisconsin. Okay. Hello. There's your Aaron Rogers segue. It's just a hop in a, skip east of Appleton. So he's no longer an Appletonian or whatever the fuck he was.

Aaron Rogers is going to be, Dan thinks he's going to live in Williams, Williamsburg. Oh, yeah, probably Hoboken. Brooklyn. No, I think Brooklyn, I think with the hipsters. Yeah, ironically. The office is in New Jersey, though. Even though they're all like, they're all big pro-vax people,

I just think there's enough chakra talk on the Venn diagram. Well, no, Brooklyn hipsters more like Mumford inside. You know, so I don't know where Aaron Rogers is going to live. Where do you think Aaron Roger is going to live? I think he'll take Billy Football's apartment and Hoboken when he has to move to Chicago. You think he's a Hoboken guy? New what's happening.

That's going to be a big question. Where does Aaron Rogers live? Let's see. Kewanuka. He lived in Hoboken. Okay. We can just go through former jets and giants. Yeah, they all live there.

I feel like Rogers is going to live. Like, Rogers, where Rogers lives is going to be. based on a whole set of decision-making parameters. Maybe he could pop for that nice Manhattan apartment of Logan Roy is now in escrow to young Connor Roy. I don't say that. We didn't give a spoiler or anything. We will talk about succession.

But a lot of people are saying the Jets, the Packers didn't get enough from the Jets here. A lot of people are saying that the Packers got fleeced. what I'd say to that is that, you know, like, this guy was never going to play football for you anymore. He gives you $60 million in cap relief. And for the Jets, it's good to get that done right now because of the thing we talked about. Like, this guy might be a one-year rental. Another reason that, you know, the Jets, there's risk involved for the Jets here. You know, like the Packers had to do this before September or whatever it was.

And in reality, they kind of had to do it before the draft. The Jets, as much as anybody, though, too, have to do this sooner and later because they're going to want to get reps with this possible one-year rental. There can't be another situation like last year where he's not in the building with the guys, you know, building a report with wide receivers, and you strike out on the trade because for six weeks, you're in the AFC East, the best division in football possibly this year. And you're going to tell me that this guy's going to show up in August.

and make this work. I don't think so. So that's why the Jets had to do it now. And I think the Packers, with all the relief that he gives them and the fact that he said he was never going to play football for him anymore, they actually made out okay because a lot of people, I'm in a group chat and the guys just reading the headlines. And they're like, yeah, it's just the two essentially in 2024. Because in 2023, they swap 15 and 13.

You also get a 2033, too, which is a nice haul there this year. But in 2024, it is a one if he plays 65% of the snaps. short of him getting struck by lightning or, you know, getting hurt, like he's going to play 65% snap. So that's the 2024-1 and at 2026-2. So I'm fine with the haul the Packers got, considering the context of the situation. And they move up two spots in the first this year, which you never knows. You never know. I'm with you. I think that's right. Something's better than nothing. Yes. So I'm not, I'm fine with. Take Hendon Hooker in the second. Little quarterback competition in Appleton, huh?

love hooker. Love hooker. Hooker Love. Layup line today, man. Listen, I do want to mention this. Doug Clifford, we were going to because you know there's nothing to do when I'm looking at celebrity birthdays. It's like that time of the year. We used to do that a lot.

A lot in the beginning. We really lean on the celebrity birthdays. He's a drummer for CCR. 78. And it's his birthday today. And so I was going to ask everybody to give me their favorite CCR song. Macon was like, I've got to dive into these songs. Well, I have some in my library here that I do like and listen to, but I wanted to really,

you know, hone in. Yeah, hone in. It is harder than you think. All the CCR songs you know are hits. Like, they have so many hits. To the point where, like, people ask what the greatest American rock band is, like, they're in the conversation. We didn't ask Dan today because you know he said the Grateful Dead, which I would agree with

him on, but CCR is right there. No doubt. One of the all-time iconic voices in Fogarty. Yeah, dude. Why does he talk like he talked? Is it different? Whing? I don't know.

You know, he's saying a totally different word. Wide? Why does he say that? Run through the jungle. No, that's like, wide. What are you trying to say? Word. Word.

Like he would say, wade, instead of word. Yeah, great voice. All-time voice. He's a California guy. I don't know what that accent is. In CCR, that stands for Credence Clearwater Revival. You got it. Give me a song.

Okay, my favorite? Yeah. Now, you're going to say, oh, chalk. Sure. It is. But throw it on and it's a banger. It's called Bad Moon Rising. It's a good thing.

You can call all of them chalk because they're all such big hits. By CCR. Yeah. You want to know what else I thought about? What? Up around the bend. Okay. See, again, like most iconic couple first notes to a song.

It's definitely one that's chalky, but they're all chalky. Okay. I'll take Midnight Special. That's good. Yep. Nice big. Chalk. But it's, but I don't think that's theirs, is it not to be?

Oh, shit. It's not, but they have a great. But they do have a great rendition. Hey, I'm going to stick with it. I'd had a hip. Chin up, Kingston. That's fine. No, so, so, uh, so I would go long as I can see the light, which I don't know for sure is theirs.

Deep cut. No, it's not. For some of us. Chalky, is it? For some of us. Really? No, that's, that's pretty chalky. Yeah, it's chalky.

Long as I can see the light. Oh, yeah. How's that go? Long as I can see the light. Oh. That's good. All right. How could I forget?

Nah, so anyways, there's a lot of saxophone. And Chris Berman, Andre Bad Moon Rising. Bad Moon Rising. Yeah. That's good. But I was going to say, they got a couple good river songs, Green River and Rolling on a River. And we did our first. It's actually called Proud Mary, Chris.

Proud Mary, proud Mary. Which is chalky as well. Yeah. Proud Mary is chalky as well. Tina Turner has a nice little Proud Mary rendition. Tina Turner, the singer. The singer. But we were on the river the other day.

It was 421. And we had a great time. I could not believe it was April. It was 89 degrees. And we fucking Reed was out there in the river. The water was great. The temperature was great. We spent half the time in the water.

11.5. 11.5 mile float, I think it was. 11.5 of it for 12. Y'all put. sunscreen on when you do this yeah mineral sunscreen and uh drugs drugs or alcohol both both oh wow geez all right and do you go to sleep early like when you go home no i just get home and start parenting okay all right dad's home from the river i slept pretty well yeah thank big shout out to cowboy reed for the hookup on the kayak appreciated that yeah we had a great time that's one of the most beautiful days i've ever seen

wait till july okay buried the lead it's just going to be that's a summer river well It might have had to do with some of the other things we were doing, but at one point there was a 15-minute street period where I was just crying from the beauty. Holy smokes. I'll tell you, it was a nice Friday. Were you wearing a shirt? I had a cut-off Celtics. He had a, uh, yeah, Bill Russell jersey.

Okay, cut off though. Well, and then I got a little too much sun and had to put on more clothes, but yeah. Did you have a life vest on? I did not. Did anybody? No, you had a life vest in your boat, though. which is stay law not so helpful but yeah

four feet of water four feet okay all right max did I pick up this invitation I don't read it but you don't do stuff remember like this bit is like it's not even a bit anymore

yeah were you really going to be free Friday from like 10 to 5 oh Friday you want to go hit the river tomorrow yeah the Rivana supposed to be like 68 degrees I just added three degrees I'll wait until it's a little warmer

um my favorite part about the river though was that at one point it was like an advertisement for our sponsors one of our friends was like oh my gosh i brought miller light miller light is amazing on the river and then we're in the car afterwards and the cash have somebody yeah cash have somebody yeah and then mike was like wait you guys talking about shady rays i wear shady race oh yeah yeah and i thought uh you know do we have a deal with penis envy we should honestly uh you know it was 420 last week i would love to do something with alien labs if you're out there love your weed i don't know what i could do but love to do something maybe some product um we saw an eagle we saw a couple eagle bald eagle

that's very cool scoop to fish yeah you scooped it oh it's yeah yeah got you got you got you you were doing drugs cowboy allegedly okay all right allegedly cowboy read did we get your ccr song mine was green river green river yeah Not to be confused with rolling on a river. Proud Mary. Oh, that's what that means? What? Like, y'all were rolling on a river.

No, we weren't rolling. No, honestly, I don't know what rolling means. Five guys doing ecstasy. And then tripping, tripping is acid? What's acid? Tripping's acid. And what is acid? Acid is LSD.

It's a chemical compound. Lucy in the sky with diamonds. Sure. The Beatles. Yeah. Yeah. It's a great. time too. Yeah. Cash app. The easy way to send, spend, save and invest with friends. Cash app helps you

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We're going to be doing what we've been doing all fall. Every Thursday at 430 on amp, check us. out. So Succession. I thought this was a great episode. So did I. I thought it was a lot of brilliant kind of, go ahead. Macon doesn't like Scarsguard. Okay, that's not what I said. He's a great character. Spoilers incoming. Spoilers.

Of course, it was an awesome episode. Somebody texted, this is a really good season of Succession. Like, yeah, of course. It's like one of the greatest shows of all time. they're all hits. All I'm saying is he, Scars Guard takes me out of the moment a little bit. I think the,

the performer, the performance does. I'm not sold on Scarsguard. Oh, see, I like him. Maybe just because he's an outsider. I think he's just so uncomfortably not normal.

Yeah. He is that. Yeah, I mean, like the part of my critique was the accent. He goes. Yeah, sure.

In and out of. There's not a lot of Scandinavian, Scandianavians out there. Hollywood yeah you know just for that reason like what are you saying you know like you're not British that works that plays you're not American yeah who are like what is that and him and Shiv last night I thought like Shiv great this was so much that's fine finest work absolutely like strategically to to get in with him even though she probably thinks he's repulsive I mean he's great advice for him yeah stop sending people your blood

Oh, don't fire the woman that you've been sending blood. Like, can you imagine there's a huge merger and you read that about a guy? Or, you know, a big buy of a company and you read that about a guy? Like, that would be the most viral news out there. This guy's a creep show. He's shipping his blood to a woman that wouldn't reciprocate his interest. What's her name, Ebba? Ebby, Ebba.

Yeah, you like her. She might. Hear me out. She might. So we did hear me out last week. Do you know what this is? I explained it to you, so you do know what it is. It's like an unconventionally attractive gal or a problematically attractive gal. And you're supposed to, like some of the ones we mentioned was like Kaylee McAnney.

Christy Noam. Oh, okay. The governor from South Dakota. Yep. Hear me out. Yeah. Do you have any? Yeah, Dr. Jill Biden, who's also in politics adjacent.

Okay. Well, I think that's good. That's good. Yeah. But succession. Yeah. Can you do images? Images?

Okay. I mean, well. No, she's a pretty lady. She's just lovely. Look at that. She's. She's pretty old. From time to time.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But look at that in the pink. Okay. All right. So I thought it was a great episode. I thought Shiv did great work.

I actually like Scars Guard. I thought him taking a piss up on the mound was just the most disrespect. Dick Forkerick. That was like a dick forward piss too. What do you mean? Like Roman was like in clear sightline of his company. Well, Roman when he jumped up to get into his sightline. You know what's funny about Roman?

He might be the smartest guy. He's the smartest guy out of the three of them. I think if I had to trust any of them to make a decision. Well, I left Connor out. But I mean, like, I think Shiv's great, but I also think Shiv, I'm not a fan of Shiv. Okay. I'm not a fan of Kendall. Like if I had to, I just would trust.

Roman. We really got hit over the head with it's dad's deal. Heard that about three times. I totally get it. I totally get it. I totally get it. So he is letting that. But who would you trust to watch your kids? Well, I don't know about Roman. Some weird stuff. But Kendall would get

really fucked up and almost die in the pool. Shib did cocaine. We don't see her do it. She did cocaine. Tom. I would trust Tom. I would trust Tom. I would trust Tom. But I'm talking about out of the kids. Shiv is my answer. Okay. I think Roman sharp. You know, I think it's a bit of an irony there that McCulley Culkin is his brother, yeah? Yeah.

And he's the guy that's all famous. So you think that's McCullough, Colkin's brother. He's not a Nepo, baby. He's a great actor. Great actor. Yeah. I don't know if he's going to be able to, to, what's it called when you get rid of something? Transition.

I don't know that he's going to be able to transition from this character. I'm always going to see Roman Roy. For sure, for sure. Now, I saw him float in like the James Bond conversation because James Bond wants some regular looking 30s guy that most people don't know. Gotta be British. Gotta be British. But another thing in that show last night was there was a moment in Logan's office

where he picked up a bottle of pills and it doesn't lead anywhere. They must have done it for a reason. Exactly. So I kind of wonder if he's going to unravel. Yeah. I liked Greg's appearance last night. It gave me an idea for the four of us. What do you think?

Quad Squad. Quad squad. Yeah, I thought about us. I was like oh there's four people in the studio. Yeah. I thought Hugo was great. God rest his soul because they axed him. It was funny.

Just hearing them kind of rationalized like how it was going to go down out there. The insecurity on that plane was incredible. So the whole corporate retreat was just freaking amazing. The dude with the plate full of food. And then he was like, sauna. Sauna. Yeah.

The sauna. Oh my God. So I thought it was a great episode. Flying colors. Yeah, it's awesome. You know, you know this whole season is one day at a time. Oh, yeah. Which the flying makes it a bit problematic.

But next week would be a funeral, I would guess. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. But this is supposed to be 10 days. But there's something wrong with his body. I think Connor fucked up the, you know, the whole preserving of the body thing.

I think he was sending the picture to be like, hey, this look all right. And then that's what fucked up Roman. Yeah, it didn't look all right. Yeah. Got them out of that. Okay, two things I want to hit you guys on before Big Cat, one. Tucker Carlson. This is what you're with Tucker Carlson.

My kid found seven four-leaf clovers. No way. I've never found one. And I'm kind of fucked up. Jealous as fuck. Seven. That's nuts. I promise you, dude.

No, I believe you. Well, what I found out is, like, in the Lakers game tonight. Well, it was during the Celtics came. Oh, shit. I want. But I didn't bet the Celtics, of course. But so they say it's one in 10,000 to find one. That's like the, you know, the common, but it's actually a misnomer. It's like one in five thousand. It's a misconception, not a misnomer. And they say once you find like a genetically mutated four-leaf clover, there's a chance that there's a lot in the vicinity. So seven. Is this on your property?

It's on my property. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's right off the back porch. Wow. Yeah, pretty much. I was thinking about doing an Airbnb, like, hey, come here, find a four-leaf clover, $5,000 a night. You know, some people will actually legitimately throw their real estate agents a little bonus. Oh, yeah, okay.

Oh, I'm sorry. Secured you a four-leaf clover farm? Okay. And before we get to Dan, we want to kick off, we want to bring something back. It's our listener line, and we want to implore you with the draft upcoming to call into our line with your draft take. Preferably drunk. Very much preferably drunk. I'd rather they be sober.

Put on a show. Just bring your best stuff. Do this. Why don't you, everyone, when you're drunk, you know, leave the voice feel for Chris. And when you're sober, leave it for making. You know, yeah, it's a good way to announce. certain exactly how you're doing um we'll hire you if you're good yes you know we want best takes best you know maybe best bets if you have a good bet um you don't have a twitter and you don't want to tweet

us put it on our uh voicemail line yep and they just talk about their their lives too certainly i was at a concert hey oh that's breaking news huh i was at a concert on friday night guy named Tommy who came up and said that he loves the show and he was very nice and he said since he's local he had always thought about what he would say to us if he saw us around and he said but I've had so many beers and that was it I like that guy yeah nothing yeah Tom's actually the best thing you could have said yeah yeah very cool so just do that but on the phone yeah yeah 202 991 0723 2901 0723 perfect okay All us.

Have a take and don't suck. Remember that? Jim Rome. Okay, good. One of the greatest to ever do it. Yeah. Okay. Here's Dan.

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you aren't full time on green light yet. They're still making you go out and grind the real estate life. What's going on? Yeah, the real estate life is like a labor of love, though. This is hard work, and it comes down to really a math problem, Dan. You know? What's the math problem? Well, 3% adds up.

It sure does. It just keeps compounding. It just keeps compounding. This year, I don't know. What do you think? Well, I don't think we can afford you full time because of how much money you make in the industry. You hear that, Dan? You can't afford him because he makes so much money in real estate.

Right. And until he doesn't sling homes anymore, he's not going to give us his all. He gives us all when he's in, but like every day of the week. You know how you guys are like in the bunker every day of the week? Like if how does that work? Like you guys are, is it basically like a bat signal if something happens, you guys have to come in and record? or like what do you explain to your wife like hey i just got to go it's like we have a beeper and it's like oh someone needs a new heart oh someone touched lebron's dick we got to be we got to get in

and record right away wait so making you you do both jobs now i have i have a number i'm just throwing this out there uh does the number 92 mean anything to you no that's how many millions Chris made playing you. And he can't afford you. That's funny. That's a really good question. Some people say, hey, real estate agents, they pay you too much.

And then I say, you know, the St. Louis Rams paid a lot of people a ton of money. Including you. Well, no. Think about it. Hey, I'm not complaining. No, I know. I love all of my jobs.

It's good to know a pre-CBA St. Louis Ram who likes things to change houses every few years. Yeah, I know. I know the deal, all right? I used to be in real estate. I have the worst real estate career of all time because I started my real estate career in 2007. You probably everyone knows what happened in 2008. And then I got out of it in 2012 right when everything came back.

So couldn't have gone worse. You did? What? You didn't do real estate. Is this a bad? I did. No, no, no. I did real estate development, like building homes and stuff, the worst possible time.

And then everything went to shit. and then I did property management. I did like house flipping. It's sucked, man. Give me a property. Give me a property management story. Oh, I mean, I had a woman who scammed me so hard and I had no idea. I was getting in the middle of getting scammed.

I'm such like a trusting person. I kept on being like, no, I don't think she's scamming us. It was so she had a whole thing set up where she would. sign a lease, uh, start the lease, make a list of like a hundred complaints about like the apartment, like the littlest things like the seven button on my microwave doesn't work. And then if you didn't fix them all, she would then fight you and be like, I'm not paying rent. And then after like three or four months, she was like, well, I'm just not paying rent. I'm just going to leave.

And so she'd get like four months of rent for free. And then you can do that. Yeah. Yeah. Really? Yeah. And the whole time, I'm like, I'm telling people, because I'm, property managing this, this apartment building in Rogers Park in Chicago.

And they, and the whole time I'm telling everyone in my office, I'm like, no, no, I talked to her on the phone this morning. She's going to pay her rent. Like, don't worry. Like, look for the check. And they're all like, are you a fucking idiot? So, yeah, that's the real estate's a tough job sometimes. Dan, one of the smartest podcasters out there couldn't, couldn't cut it.

I started in 2011. There was a guy who called, he always called from a block number. He was interested in a property in Middleburg, Virginia for $19 million. I just started, $19 million. Awesome. Would get me on the phone for about two hours out of pop a couple times a week, and I was just grinding for him, getting every single answer to every single question he had. And at one point, the listing agent was like, hey, how well do you know this guy?

Some of these questions are starting to sound familiar. And I was like, oh, I know this guy. He had not, like, I've known this guy a long time. And then one day he called from a non-blocked number, put it into Google, a psychiatric facility. Oh, no. He just wanted to talk to people all day long. That was his deal. That's so good.

Yeah. But it's hard, though, because you want to be trusting. It's, like, very hard to not trust that people have good intentions. And then you get that dose of reality. Then you become a podcast. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And you become a cynical fucking podcaster. That's, I wanted to ask you, man. you're going to Chicago when are you going to Chicago? And like are you nervous? I am nervous because I All right. So I'm going in July.

My third child is hopefully arriving within the next month. And then we're going to move after the baby is, you know, over six weeks. Thank you. I am nervous and excited. I would say nervous because there's like 30 of us going. And we're building an entire. warehouse like a fun factory we have a basketball court golf simulator like all this space to do

all these things that have always dreamed of doing and with the excitement of doing all these things I've dreamed of doing there's obviously some nervousness being like what if it doesn't work um I think it will work because we've been doing this very long time we know what's good what's funny and you know having pft buy in and a bunch of the people you know brandon walker nick you know kb all these guys who are very right smart is moving to chicago Brandon Markert Titus is coming. Wow. So I think it's going to, I think it's going to work.

But there's always, I mean, Chris, you know, like when you started this whole thing. Yeah. There was, I remember we used to text. Yeah. And you'd ask me questions. Like, how does this like, what, what do you guys do with this? And what do you do that? It's like, there's definitely some nervousness.

But I think, uh, if we're being honest, the nervousness is good because it just motivates me to like double down on my work and be like, you know, I I could walk away today. You know what I mean to be okay? But like I want I want to keep. I think I still have some years left. Maybe we need to move to rekindle a little bit of that, you know. Yeah. Hey,

where are we moving? I'm letting you guys know right now. Chicago. I do have. I might be poaching Kyle. I've put the birdie in his here. It's not going to take much to poach him. I think he wants to fuck you guys so bad.

Guy didn't come to a single live stream all fall. And then we, you know, he was like, hey, if you want to see Kyle, catch him on a bar school live stream. He was great. Yeah, he was great. He's great. Big cat, we are all three guys with two kids who are expecting a third. Isn't that neat? Okay, so, yeah.

Wait, what? Yeah, I was going to say something, but thanks. Well, I got something. I got something, too. Has it occurred to you, Dan? You just cocked his child announced. Hold on. I haven't made one of my own.

It was good. It was good. It was good. He does this. Dan. He'll wish my wife happy birthday. like when this is the show like just starts. Dan,

your wife is definitely the mother of this third kid. Has it occurred to you that you might not be the dad? You're just the presumptive father. Yeah, I mean, of course, I could go through your head. I'm pretty sure.

I'm pretty, pretty sure that it's my child. Yeah. So what I was going to say was before he suggested that your wife may not be faithful to you is that, uh, I am having a, uh,

a girl. Yes. Yeah. Dude, when? I can wear the t-shirts, the bumper stickers, girl dad. Yeah, welcome to the club. July, right in the middle of river season, honestly. It's a little bit of a.

Congrats, though, because I actually like, congrats, because I was, you know, because you had your kids, your kids are what, like six and four, yeah, seven and four. So, like, I was a little behind you. My son's four and my daughter's two. And so when I was, you know, when we were having a third, I was like, I wonder if I actually thought this.

I was like, I wonder if Chris is going to have a third. That's awesome. We waited a while, like, you know, as you can see between the distance, the three kids and I'm kind of nervous about the distance. Dude, it's kind of like getting shocked back into something that you forgot how to do. I'm like, I don't remember that at all, you know, like, dude. First off, you black out the entire like nine months. I can only imagine what my wife's doing.

But like, uh, I could barely remember it anyways. And now it's been five years. So I don't know how the fuck am I do. I actually think you're doing it right though because I'm making how. older your kids. I'm going to have three kids under three. Okay. We're kind of in the same boat. I will have three kids under four. Uh, or, you know, my son's going to be four in June, but I actually am jealous of you, Chris, because I, I'm dreading like, my son is still in like, he's just a dick. Yeah. You know, I love him. He's so much fun to be around, but like, listen. Seven is a different kind of

dick. It's right. It's the dick that doesn't need you. Right. You know, he's. Right. Like you can wake up on his own. Yeah. Yeah. Like and you try to talk to him. How was your day? You got to pry it out of them. All that stuff. Like enjoy the time when they're when they're like open books. And they my four year old right now is like he's obsessed with me. Like it's all day. Seven year old he's kind of giving me a taste of my own medicine. Like I need some time to myself. My four year old yesterday told me he was like he's like dad when you when you give me treats you're my best friend. And when you when you when you tell me to do stuff. stuff you're not. I was like, yeah, it's pretty fair. But yeah, no, I mean, being a dad is the like, I actually go home excited every night. I'm like, I'm so excited to see my kid. Well, just wait until and this is the one cool thing about a seven year old is like he started being a sports fan. It was like it hit during March Madness this year, like had to explain the whole thing to him. You know, for two weeks there, he wasn't sure if, you know, the NBA team's played in the in the NCAA tournament. Now he has a favorite like NBA player. He likes Trey Young. Oh.

Yeah, I don't know. Oh, no. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, we watch all the games. Not a scout. Not a scout. I explained to him like what overs and unders are because like he wants to know why I'm cheering for teams not to make shots. And I think it's good to like that I introduce him to that, not somebody else.

I don't know if there's mental gymnastics. Right. It's like how you blow smoke into his face. No, you don't. Yeah, I don't blow smoke in his face. He throws in his lip. Yeah, same shit. No, he thinks it's gum.

So the funniest thing. Oh, dude. He's like, dad, three pieces of gum is a lot. Dude, I had a moment last week where, so my son's been doing this thing where he just wakes up whenever he wants to wake up. And he just, I'll wake up almost every morning with a four-year-old staring in my face like six inches away. Yeah. Being like, I got to pee. I want to get up.

And I'm like, holy shit. Like, I wake up scared every morning. The other morning I, when I put him to bed, the Zen fell out of my pocket. And it was in the chair in his room. room. I wake up at 6th in the morning. He wakes up at 6th of the morning. He comes to my room. He's holding it. He's like, Daddy, you forgot this for your mouth. I was like, oh, fuck. I was like, I got to stop doing this shit. No, nicotine's healthy. Huberman said so. Yeah. That's true. Wait, make it. Do you have a girl? Yeah, we're going to be girl boy girl. But yeah,

oldest is a girl. So, Chris, I know that like it's kind of a cliche. Yeah. But I definitely already am like, like, like my daughter like gets does no wrong. Like she. she'll like bash my son with a Lego in the head and I'm like you shouldn't been standing there dude yeah what are you going to do like I'm actually going to try to be hard on my daughter like I don't know I just I feel like the world's so tough and fucked up like I got to make her like one of these people from the last of us you know I actually started boxing recently I think a lot of what went into that was like I have to be able to kick somebody's ass for another 23 years or so yeah like it resets the clock on like you having to handle business and like the the increase in my my health

is directly related to knowing i'm going to have a daughter dan i wanted i wanted to tell you this one thing before we moved on from kids uh but whalen with the sports fandom so he he was like an eagles fan just because we went to some games and shit and then uh and then late in the season he makes an announcement to me that his favorite team is you want to guess oh do you say the chiefs nope the Miami Dolphins. Oh. The colors. I can see it from a kids perspective.

The colors are cool. And my wife is not doing a good job of steering him away. She's like, yeah, we'll go visit your Aunt Coco. We'll take you down to Miami game. I was like, I will not be joining that trip. That's so good. Yeah. And the whole quarterback situation with me and their fans.

You being wrong is what you meant to say. Me being wrong. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Sure. To a to on always remember. But yeah, you have been wrong over and over. It's bad.

It's actually funny because on our text chain with Rissillo, Rissillo also known to a hater, they'll try to get me to crack. They'll be like, come on. Like you actually, I'm like, no, no, no, no, two is the best. Like, don't even try. They'll, like, try to, like, basically, you know, I know they're going to use it against me.

Well, I'm like, no, too or not. He did cop to it being a bit of a bit, you know, in the text chain. And he was like, when he started throwing ducks, he was like, well, guys, I know. Like, but no, no, he, the way, it was windy in a SoFi Stadium for that game. So that was, that can be easily explained. I maybe have leaned into it a little bit more. But I do think he's good.

I think people bash him for no reason. Yeah, he had a really hurt back this last year. And if you do notice a hurt head. Yeah, well. Yes. So, um, Dan, what, what would be the worst team that your, your son? would root for if he like Packers. Yeah. Yeah. Cardinals. St. Louis Cardinals would be pretty bad. I, uh, it's funny because I, I've done the same thing

with my son. I've, I've had him pick, uh, colors for the horse, for the horses when I have horse racing on. He's a loser. He lost every race. But I do want, I do wonder, I do wonder like what, like, his first memories are going to be because we had one, it was the U.S. Open last year, was father's day and my son's birthday. And I had Zalotaurus to win like $100,000. And it was like in the middle of a birthday party and I was like, everyone's got to lock it.

No more birthday talk. We're sending back to breakfast. So like, I think he'll think it's funny when he grows up, but who knows? Well, when he gets a pony after Zalotaurus wins, it's like, yeah, well, yeah. Don't want to bite the hand that feeds you. Hey, we had a question when it comes to coaches

because we know you have a relationship with Dion Sanders, and we know you have a relationship with Rick Petino. And both of them have made news in the last couple days. Of course, Dion Sanders in that spring game and the transfers. There's 45 of them total 16 after the spring game. Rick Patino made news last night, Dan. I don't know if you saw this, but he tweeted. So yesterday, I didn't even know he had Twitter.

He hasn't paid for the blue check. Not a blue check guy. So yesterday I was enjoying the Knicks game and someone read my lips on TV giving out my phone number. Over 300 plus messages came in. Here's the bizarre news. 95% were nice and positive. I got a lead on seven new recruits. My new cell is tongue out, creepy, smiley face.

Ooh, that emoji. That's one of your favorites. I hate that fucking emoji. Oh, I miss this. Yeah. How did you miss this? This is your guy. Well, I'm not, I have a stalker.

I don't know if you guys know this, but I have a... How making about the background. Yeah. So we've made our jokes about Rick Petino in the past, as most people in this business do. You can go look up the jokes. You can figure out what the jokes are. He might have had a scene from an Italian restaurant to quote Billy Joel. But he, so it was probably like seven years ago.

He was on college game day when he was still at Louisville. I made a Twitter joke about it I get a text from a random number And it's like Hey listen this is Someone from Rick Petino's camp We're watching everything you say And if you don't watch it

We will end your career And so I was like This is fucking weird Yeah And then like probably once a year I'll get a text from a random number Being like Hey we heard what you said

We heard what PFT said I told you to watch it Like we know, we know how to end your career. Like, I mean, like an old time like Hollywood, like so, you know, like some guy in like 1940s being like, you'll never act in this town again. But yeah, he's in any, it happened when we're in Houston. I got a text being like, come meet up. Let's squash this once and for all. So yeah, it's weird.

I don't, I, I love Rick Petino. I'll never say a bad word about it. What are you afraid would happen? Do you ever at night when you're in your bed, like think about Rick Petino or his, his, his, his, his, his cop. pose. No, I actually think we should get, we're going to try to get Rick Petino on the show. And then, uh, we can squash the beef that way. I think it also probably came to ahead because Rick Petino did a press conference, uh, from his lawyer's office, which is where a lot of innocent people like to do press conferences. Um, and PFT and I got questions in and, uh, we went in person and we got some questions in that might have had some jokes layered inside of it. I think that's really where the guy, I was like pissed, but I don't, I don't even think, I bet you if I told Rick Pettino, he's probably like, I don't even know who this person is. I don't know.

You're probably on his radar. If he were to come in your studio. Don't careful. Put a red checkered tablecloth. Would you make a 15 second joke to his face? Making made these jokes, just so we're clear. Making made these jokes. If you want to try to scam.

Pretty good. If you want to try to scam him out of some real estate, you can easily do that. You can find them. So ask him the question. Who would you rather play for, Petino or Coach Prime? Because I think we're bearing the lead. The spring game was what, Saturday? Is that two days ago?

15 new players in the portal since Saturday out of Colorado. Ooh. Yeah, what's up with that? Including dude who played in the game. There were actually people at their spring game this year. Yeah. Even? I think that's probably Dion telling them pack your bags.

That's what we're here. He's just brutally honest with him. So would you rather play for him or Rick? I'll say Dion just because I know him very well and he's the best guy ever. But Rick Petino, I mean, he is unassailably one of the best college coaches of all time. And he does feel like one of those coaches

that would be tough on you, but also treat you like family. You know what I mean? You don't see a lot of players saying anything bad about Rick Petino afterwards because I think he gets the most out of his guys and gets guys to the pros. And like, that's, I mean,

You can't, you can't question that with Rick Petino. Yeah, no, we don't know yet with Dion. It's interesting. It will be an interesting year. It's interesting. Very interesting. Okay, so I was going to ask you about the Knicks, but there was a two-parter earlier that I didn't come back to. With you moving to Chicago, what are you going to miss about New York and what are you not going to miss about New York?

Okay, good question. I will actually miss the people of New York. There's a, it's like a melting pot, just weird energy. characters, like, there's something about New York that, that has that to it, that I don't think, it's unlike any other city in America. Other cities can claim it, but if you spent some time in New York, you know what I'm talking about. Like, everyone's got a story.

Everyone's a character. Anywhere you walk on the street, it just, it just has that. I'm not going to miss the fact that, like, living in New York is not the easiest. It's, you know, like construction, noise, you know, getting on the subway every day. there's a lot of things, rats. There's a lot of rats in Chicago. There's a rat in the alley. You guys don't have a rat czar in Chicago.

That's true. That's true. But I, there's definitely an, like people who say, uh, if you can make it in New York, you can make it anywhere like that old saying. Yeah.

That is true. Like New York is a, it's not for the, the faint of heart when it comes to like day to day living. Yeah. Because you're living on top of a million, millions of millions of people. Like there's,

there's, you know, you don't see. land you don't see trees that's tough that part's tough yeah yeah well where you're gonna live somewhere with land and trees in Chicago like where my brother used to live now I'm not gonna live up up there in the suburbs no but there's I mean there's more parks in Chicago there's more it's like spread out I mean Central Park's really nice New York but then if you're not in Central Park it's a concrete jungle so but there's there's parts of New York like you do feel like you're living in the in like the center of the world you know what I mean yeah when you're in New York I know I get the whole

the whole bias of like New York media and stuff because it does feel that way that this is the center of the world and everything else is revolving around it. I'm going to see Taylor Swift in Chicago early June. I'm staying at the Blackstone opposite Grant Park, a walk to Soldier Field and all of the stuff there. How do you do, how do you do three days and two nights in Chicago correctly? Well, if the Cubs are in town, you should go to a Cubs game. Can I type it in? You don't have yourself prepared. I would do an architecture tour.

The boat tours are awesome. Oh, I heard those are great. They're very, very cool. I would walk up the lake, like up Lake Shore, if it's a nice day. There's, you know, usually in the summer, there's different neighborhoods have different, like, street festivals on the weekends. What about restaurants?

Is that, oh, Chival? Is that still there? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Remember 2016? We were there in the United Center. And then Malachi Richardson happened. We were in tears.

I'll give you a better burger place. I didn't cry. I'll give you a better burger place called Kuma's Corner. That's my favorite burger place. A little bit more, not like where tourists would go, but that's the spot. Okay. So what I was going to ask you about the Knicks back to New York is who are the Knicks? And we had some time to noodle on this.

Who are the Knicks in the NFL? what franchise is most like the Nix? Because right now, you know, admittedly a Nix fan look like they're going to win a series. Yeah. Yeah. I was there on Friday night. It was electric.

Like it is, there is something about basketball in New York and like having them be good and back that you can feel the energy. And it was very, very like, you know, when you just go to a game and the crowd is into it from the like before tip

until after the game, even though it was a blowout, it's something special. who are the Knicks in the NFL? Oh, man. Can I tell you, can I tell you mine? Your answer is right.

Yeah, it's the Chicago Bears. Yeah. It's the Chicago Bears. I mean, you know, you think about it like now the Knicks have two NBA championships, but the Bears with the one Super Bowl, it's been a long time. You guys, you know, the Knicks in the 90s,

that's when I became a fan. They were close a lot, like in a cool way. Like, you're not being the frontrunner, but, you know, that's why I picked the Knicks. one of these years will win one. You guys have had a few playoff appearances, but then the Super Bowl, you almost won. Yeah, and just like a rabid fan base. Yeah.

That's got hope right now, you know? Like the Knicks have done it on the court. The bears have a lot of draft picks. I like that analogy, and I'll go even further because if the bears are good, it takes over the whole town similar to the Knicks. Like the Knicks are, because, you know, in New York, there's Yankees, Mets. There's Giants, Jets. Knicks are it. So there's that.

And I would, this is more of an insult on my bears and also the Knicks. There's like a feeling of steeped like tradition in history. But when you actually look at the tradition in history, there's not a ton there. Not as much as yeah. Like the Cowboys. Yeah, right. It's like, yeah, the Bears like charter franchise, all this stuff. It's like, wait, but you only won one Super Bowl?

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and the Knicks are kind of similar. It's like, wait, the Knicks only won what? Two, yeah, yeah. So. And there are no way, I think the Bears is the right answer. There are no way detestable. You'd be happy for them from afar if they started to win.

I didn't like double doink. Yeah. Like, you know, looking up at it. I didn't like it. I didn't like seeing your, I didn't like seeing your buddy Carl from Barstool and thinking he was just a random fan. That was the funniest shit ever after that. Not that any of it was funny, Dan.

I don't mean that. But, you know, I saw the video of the guy that went viral. Did you see this video of the white guy yelling into the, well, that doesn't narrow it down. There are a lot of white guys yelling to the phones after that game. But Homeboy was running out of the stadium,

like threatening to kill Parky. And I texted Dan and was like, this guy is funny. And he's like, yeah, he's one of our biggest barstinal personalities. Yeah. It was Carl. Yeah, it was Carl.

It was not a good moment for any of us. I would actually say the only other team I could think of is, if the Eagles hadn't won that Eagles. A few years ago, that would be similar. Where it's like tradition, rabid fan base, not a ton to back it up. But you know that like if they're good, people, even if they're bad,

people are die hard and they want them to win. Well, the Eagles made sense because they've been to so many NFC championship games. Like, you know, Eastern Conference Finals, they've been to a Super Bowl. They've had great players. But yeah, like not a lot to show for it. Nick's bears have the venues, MSG and Soldier Field, until the Bears sell out.

fucking Charleston Heights. That's not a sellout. It is a sellout. If you know the history of the bears, the Soldier Field was always supposed to be temporary. Okay. I'm telling the honest truth. Shouldn't have made it look so cool then.

Papa Bear had a fucking letter to season ticket holders in like the 70s or the 60s being like, we're going to move soon. Like this is, you know, it's a dump. It's a dump. It's a smallest stadium in the center. That's the thing. I didn't have to go to a game there. I just played there.

The grass was terrible, but, you know, like, it was fun because it was old. I just, I want a new stadium because I think a new stadium gets a new owner. Because I don't think anyone's going to buy the bears if they don't own the stadium. So that, and I would like a new owner, even though Virginia McCaskey. Yeah, you're next in line. We're handling the commanders right now. She's a hundred years old for crying out loud. Jesus, she is, the Centurian?

She's a spry. She's a spry hundred. Yeah. Chris, are you going to come to a game? Yeah, I'll come to a game. I'd love to. I also, yeah, I don't know, you know, with the whole news that I just broke, kind of hard to leave the house.

Although I still do, was in Mexico for a bachelor party last week, but I've used up all my points. Dude. Yeah. The points, the points become, you start to, they start to dwindle. Hey. Did you guys, did you guys weigh in on the, one last thing on the, on the Blue Jays pitcher? whole thing.

Nah. Well, he's a huge Blue Jays fan with the record next to his name on Twitter and everything. No, no, no, no. Do you see it? Yeah, yeah. We're 13 and 9. We're third in the ALE East.

Okay. Line. Cacucci? Talking about Cacucci? No, I was talking about... No, the guy on the airplane with his wife being like the kids had to clean up the... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's the Blue Jays picture. Popcorn. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where are you on that?

So I got a gift from God in that my wife is eight and a half months pregnant and she was like, I showed her the story and she's like, 22 weeks isn't even that pregnant. And I was like, thank you. I'm going to say this now. Because I was like, that's the only blessing I needed. She's like, she was like, that's like I would, I would pick up like 22 weeks. You're fully mobile. We probably would pick the popcorn up. Because I hate, I hate being messy and I hate people staring at it.

at me. People are already staring at my kids because everybody in first class, you know, not a flex here, but you know, they paid good money for that ticket. There shouldn't be any kids in first class. Yeah. They're fucking idiots. I mean, like you didn't pay good money for that ticket? Yeah, I did too. I actually had to pay for like a small person. Right. Right. It should be less money. Yeah. No, fuck that. It should be less money. Um, okay, real quick, before we get to our draft, do you have a favorite NFL draft, uh, draft day viral moment? because the NFL draft is later this week and there are sure to be some great moments.

Yeah, so I'm happy that it wasn't just you were going to ask me my favorite Bears draft because those haven't gone well. No, they haven't. The Larry Mee Tonsal's shit is still like insane to look back that he had a weed gas bong, gas mask bong, released on the day of the draft. That kind of shit is incredible.

That was dirty. Oh, it was so dirty. So, so dirty. But it was also great fodder and like, like the internet exploded. And the NFL exploded. He broke the NFL, like all the trades had happened because of that. Like he was literally, he was the catalyst for so much, so much capital being moved around. Just for being a stoner.

Yeah. And then also the, I think this is a 20 year anniversary of the Vikings missing their pick. Yes. They missed like the seventh pick. Here's the only silver lining for them. And they got Kevin Williams out of that. And stay woke. Some say they meant to do that.

Yeah. Oh. Lower, lower slot. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Less money. Still got their guy. So I like the pandemic because it brought out a whole.

I didn't like the pandemic. But I liked. Yeah. I liked everything that happened because of it with the draft. Like you got Goodell's chair. Mm-hmm. You got the Titans war room. You got Cliff's house.

You know? Yep. There was a whole different experience with that. And then I really love the point where guys, started to use Goodell as a prop. There was a Cleveland detackle that gave him like the first really big hug and then Don Terry

Poe like kissed him. I don't know if you've ever seen the picture of Don Terry Poe and Roger Goodell like face to face. They look like they just got done swap and spit. I love that people started using Roger Goodell as a prop. When you're when you got drafted, that was a great moment because

they both got caught and like we didn't go the right direction. Yeah. And we just end up kissing. Yeah. When you got drafted, did you party? right after like was there a moment like holy shit i did it yeah there was a party uh we all went to a nightclub which you know being a charlesville kid went to uva i'd not really do a lot of nightclubs but we you know we were throwing single dollar bills over the balcony of the nightclub like really dumb shit and then you know they take you right to the plane and i can barely button my suit and you get on and st louis flew me fucking like u.s. air st louis at six a m row 32 bro it was it was and i didn't know

any better because I was like I'm just happy to be here. And then, you know, the next 10 to 12 years, I'm seeing all these draft day photos of guys getting whisked away in a G5. Yeah. And I was flying spirit to St. Louis. Yeah. So, yeah, it was fun. But, you know, like I wanted to do the Joe Thomas thing.

Yeah. You know. Fishing with his dad. Yeah, but then my dad talked me out of it. So whereas Joe Thomas's dad took him fishing, my dad was like, oh, I don't know what that's going to do to your stock. So. I went to one draft party.

A friend of mine in college in Wisconsin, Nick Hayden, he got drafted by the Panthers. And draft parties are like interesting because it really is a gamble. Like what happens if you don't get drafted? What happens if you fall? Yeah. I feel like anyone who has the balls to do a draft party.

Like that can get scary, right? Yeah, because you don't know who the characters are in the room and what they want out of the circumstance. Like, you know, like is everybody, jockeying for position they want camera time i remember there was a de tackle i think or an offensive tackle that got drafted maybe isaiah wilson uh for the titans and his uh his mom he had a girlfriend and she was just like taking all the camera time and she literally suplexed her to get her off the couch like you know it's just the you know the or cd lamb and the phone yes cd lamb in the phone bro cd lamb has

two phones i know i knew he was a playmaker when i saw this whole thing happen and he's his girl took one of the phones and he just lightning quick reflex snatched that phone out of her hand. It was incredible. Yeah. Yeah. All time draft moment. I also remember, uh, Trevor Lawrence's dad just getting man spreaded on on the couch. Uh, and he like had his nuts just like in a vice.

I think, and I, I remember taking that picture being like, holy shit, this sucks so bad for this guy. Like he, he, he, that's his son. Yeah. And the, and he's wearing shorts. And he's got like. Everyone else has all the space in the world and he just got his nuts just fucking smashed together. Yeah, you could see his balls. If you look it up, he, he was, he looked very uncomfortable.

You got to be careful when you're shooting and they're shooting you in like a chair with no desk in front of you. Podcasts know that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, look at his sack. Yeah. Look how uncomfortable. He's just like, you know that you're just getting dominated there too.

Yeah, those khakis will ride up, man. You got to be careful. So that was our Miller Light draft set. for the week. So Miller Light is satisfied. And I'm satisfied when I drink a Miller Light. So the NFL drafts coming up. Have you all been keeping up with the potential prospects?

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point of having a beer if you can't taste it? So kickoff comes around again, enjoy the beer that tastes like the season. Miller Light, great taste, 96 calories. To get Miller Light delivered right to your door, visit millerlight.com slash greenlight. Or you can pick up some Millerlight pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Let's get to our draft. This is why Dan's here. It is the I'm Not Him draft. It is, you know, lately there's been a lot of talk about who's him and who's not him. I think we just put this to bed. It can be sports or it can be something off the field. Who's picking first? Do we want to, I'm picking first? My draft.

Chris, then Big Cat, then Macon. Okay. Wow. How many, how many, I got a question, rowback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Use code take for 20% off your first purchase. Yeah. I bring ads with me.

The Q-Zips, polos, they are shorts for the summer. They are great, great. They are great. The joggers, yeah. Yeah, the jogger. I'm wearing the joggers right now. Yeah. Sam Hubbard's cousin started the company.

Is that a good looking guy or what? Yeah. Really good looking guy. Company based. Charlottesville, Virginia. What do you think, Macon? You're the, you're the, you're the, the resident. Sam Hubbard. We got Roeback right here. Max, my producer, just walked it in. Look, I'll send you guys some rowbacks. So I was bringing an ad. You know, Robax says this. No, I bring an ad with me whenever I do a podcast. How many picks are there in this draft? 27 rounds. We were going to do like the NFL and do seven,

so we got to get on our horse. Sam Hubbard is gorgeous. Seven rounds? Gorgeous. Yeah, seven rounds. Yeah. Or five. And if you run out of, settle in. Here's how we do drafts here. We just start and then we're like, yeah, you guys are out of them. You know, like that would be great for the bears.

All right. I have to change my draft board now because I didn't know. Okay. Well, I'll start us off. Caitlin Jenner. Wow. Okay. Wow.

Expound. Because literally she was like, I'm not him. And then, you know? And then, and then, and then when this whole thing happened with Bud Light recently, she said it again, she's like, you want me to stand up for trans rights? I'm not him either. Yeah. That's true.

That's good. She was like, I'm not him. So that's my first pick is Caitlin Jenner. That's a great pick. That's a great pick. Do I have the second pick? You do. So I'm nervous about the tone if I pick something that I could maybe get later, but I also like to set the tone.

Tell and Satter. All right, my first pick is going to be Hitler invading Russia. God damn it. Total I'm not him moment. He's like, I'm going to fucking rule the whole world. Did you have that making? Big H is top on my big board. Yeah.

Oh, hell yes. What a steal by me? Because I thought I was going to get it late. I was like, no, seven rounds. Hey, Hitler, he is not him. No, and do you want to know a fun fact while we're here? July 9th is his birthday. So is Macon's birthday.

Are you serious? Yeah, you and Hitler. No, it's O.J. Simpson's birthday. Oh, it's O.J. Simpson. Sorry. OJ Simpson. I think Hitler's birthday is 420. Yeah, you're right. It is 420 because it just happened. Yeah, it's me and OJ. You and OJ.

Me, OJ, Tom Hanks, the Boy Meets World guy, I think. Yeah. That's a good part of us. That's a great pick. Yeah, good. I mean, listen, he, he was like, oh, all these other guys that tried to invade Russia in the wintertime. Like, oh, no, I got this. I'm totally different than everyone else. No, no, no, you're not him.

You're not that guy, pal. Okay. All right. So this is a snake? Non-snake. Non-snake. That changes things. What?

Okay. Snake it. Snake it. Let's snake it. Let's snake it. Snake this shit. Okay. Making your back-to-back.

All right. My pick is Heath Schuller. And my pick is Heath Shuler because most people think Heath Shuler is Gus Farrat, who is your boy. Yeah. And banged his neck into the padding and then couldn't return to the game. So you think it's He's Shuler because people thought that, was Heath Schuller. Yeah. And then Heath Schuller, not a great career. And now he's trying to make it as some sort of, uh, pole as they, as they call it. Okay. Are you ready? Hitler was a better pick.

Good thing. It's good thing that we're in a snake drafts right now, but we went, we went, Caitlin Jenner, Hitler, Heath Schuller. Yikes. Uh, okay. Yeah, I mean, that was, come on. Thank you. Day. Usually I have to sit here and be like, it's not a great pick. He's like, you took Tray Lance three. Yeah. My second pick, the first pick of the second round is going to be David Schwimmer. I don't care for his work at all.

Oh my God. What? Yeah. I think he was by far the weakest link. Did you even do homework for this? Not a whole lot. I looked into the dock. Does he even know who David Schwimmer is?

I know who David Schwimmer is. He's friends? Yeah, yeah. I was just on a bachelor party with him. You're saying he's not him? Yeah, he's not him. David Schwimmer was at the bachelor party? Yeah.

Sandy knows David Schwimmer? Yes. How? No shit. College. We're going to have to college. we went to the same school. David Schwimmer.

You're thinking a Michael Schwimmer. Oh, I'm thinking of Michael Schwimmer. Who's David Schwimmer? I thought you were all. I thought you were all. Who fuck is Michael Schumer? I thought you were all up in arms about, uh, I think you're all up in arms about his baseball.

David Schwimmer is Ross from Friends. Oh, yeah, okay. Really bad at acting on a really good show. I didn't watch David Schwimmer. Yeah. I didn't watch Friends. David Schwimmer. Wow, I got really nervous there for a second.

I was at a bachelor party with David Schumer. How did I not know that we went to college with Friends actor, David Schwimmer. I would never go to a bachelor party with the other guy from friends because he shit on Keanu Reeves. Matthew Perry. Joey or Chandler? Chandler.

Wow. Okay. Big Cat. You're up. Okay. I'm up. Thank you. I'm not.

Well, I actually think Michael Schwimmer would have been a better. Well, some people aren't crazy about what they do. But I'm, you know, I think you have a choice. Yeah. Okay. I have an easy one. This will be Matt Hasselbeck in overtime. Yeah.

It's a good. Fuck. Good pick. Total I'm not him. For anyone who doesn't remember, Seahawks, Packers, playoff game, coin flip. He says, we want the ball, and we're going to score. He throws a pick six right out.

To my teammate, Al Harris. Total I'm not him moment. Couldn't be more I'm not him. That's true. Yeah. Okay. I'm having a fantastic draft. You are.

A very chalky draft, but a good one. No, no, no. No, no. You want to take Hitler and I got him first. I know. So I had to go with a totally different strategy. Let's just see how it plays out. Brian Bosworth.

I know how much you like Hitler. The envelope is in. He's a big Thomas Jefferson guy. Stones throw away from Hitler in my book. Okay, well, so I got Brian Bosworth because it is not a bigger I'm not him moment. You're going to walk into the situation. One of you is going to be him. One of you is going to be not him.

It's pretty simple. Like in a football practice, the most Neanderthal way. to settle a debate is just like goal line tackle and yeah it got exaggerated a little bit i you know like it happens it's bow jackson but those two were on a collision course they were cult heroes and then one of them was not him yeah it's good pick i mean that's uh he was he was everyone was like oh the boss the boss the boss and then just got absolutely steamrolled and that was it that was it you're up again oh i'm up again. Let's see. Howard Dean. Oh, I had that too. Did you really? Yes, I swear to God. I swear to God. I had Howard Dean. I thought I was going to get him in like the six. No, but for that same

reason, I wanted to get him at three. Are you like the Eagles laughing at me right now when Jalen Rager, or Minnesota when Jailen Ray. Oh, that's a good pick. Yeah. That's a good pick. The thing people forget about Howard Dean was he was neck and neck with John Kerry. You know, he wasn't well funded, but the guy had a shot and then yeah 20 seconds it was over dude yeah yeah it was over I'm not him just got so excited

about just like me making that pick yeah yeah uh okay my next one's easy one still in the news today uh but it'll be a specific moment it's Ben Simmons passing up the dunk against the hawks while his entire team was like are you fucking serious dude. Yeah, that was bad. And he had a clean dunk and he passed it and, uh, we know how the rest is gone. We actually were talking about it on PMT yesterday, but Ben Simmons, uh, after the 2020 bubble

playoffs, the Sixers got swept and he tweeted watching my team get swept hurt and I don't ever want to feel that way again. Uh, in the next three years, he's watched his team get swept two more times. So, uh, he is very much, I'm not him. Now, I do feel like maybe. your big board ran out and you looked to the right no at pm t knows no no no i have i have i'm trying to be strategic here because yeah trying to pick what i think might get picked i should have gone howard dean uh but ben sim i mean that's that was the reaction by imb in that clip is all time when he's standing up the three point line he's like are you fucking serious dude total i'm not him i'm going andres eskabar he of the columbia national soccer team he owned gold himself and

then famously said life doesn't end here. And then they killed him because he scored on on his own team in Lossley. It's not funny. RIP to Andres. How long ago was this? But he wasn't him. That's 94, right? Yeah, 94.

Yeah, it's been 20 years. Yeah, almost. That's more than 20 years, guys. Yeah. 30, 30. 30. 30. 30.

You got you too, though. There are a lot of fumes in the studio. I'm actually going to agree, though, because guys are age. What, Chris, you're what, 38, 39, 38, I'm 38 as well. 1994, 95 does feel like 10 years ago. Illinois Nazis is my next pick. Oh. Good value.

It's scokey. I think here in the fourth. So, Chris, the Nazi thing didn't really work out for them. Are you sure? I think it might be having a bit of a comeback, unfortunately. But generally, no, it didn't. work out there looked down upon wait might be you guys where are you guys

based uh in the united states um the Illinois Nazis famously were on a bridge protesting uh near Chicago in the 80s Elwood Blues uh ran drove fast onto the bridge

they all didn't jump into but it's a real thing that happened yeah they basically tried to have a rally in being like first amendment and that whole thing Yeah. Trying to push the boundaries. Yeah. Yeah.

They, they were not him. Okay. Okay. So you got just like, like, I don't even know. Like, it's not even junkyard. Like I got Hitler and you got. It's playing around with fucking.

You're like, you're talking noise after every pick, which. No, I'm just, listen. This is, I'm, I'm just understanding. I think you're slowly respecting my, my, my, the squad I'm assembling here. Okay. I got one that I actually, I don't think, uh, I thought it wouldn't last this long. My next pick is going to be Dan Gilbert

after LeBron left for the heat. Oh, yeah. And he wrote his comic Sands letter to the world. And he said the self-declared former king, in quotation marks, will be taking the curse with him down south. And until he does right by Cleveland in Ohio,

James in the town where he played will unfortunately own this dreaded spell and bad karma. Just watch. Sleep well, Cleveland. Tomorrow is a new, much brighter day. promise you that energy, focus, capital knowledge and experience we directed it, one thing and one thing only delivering you the championship you have long deserved and is long overdue. He also said that LeBron was never going to win one.

And then he went in one, two in Miami and then needed LeBron to come back to win one for him. That's the best part. The irony. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He said Cleveland would win one before LeBron would. Yeah. Yeah. It's not the case. Total.

I'm not him. And then they just went back to the draft lottery every single year. Okay. this is a chalky but i'm going to make the pick bill buckner okay i mean it's it's a verb yeah and the guy buckner something i bucknered something on second base the other night um oh yeah how's the softball league going good make how's it going uh what are you guys one and four no and three two and three point was you never you never show up because uh we had some problems in the field and these are like this isn't like new york softball where you get a bunch of fucking like uh finance

bros and people like that. I mean, these are some electricians and shit down here. You know. But you, you played in the NFL and your brother got drafted in Major League Baseball. Now, we've been fine, but in the field, we score a lot of runs, but in the field, we've had problems. Can I get your back on this one? Yeah.

They were pro football players. They weren't pro softball players. I mean, that's eyeballs and oranges. But Kyle got drafted in Major League Baseball. And now, that's a fair point. That is a fair point. That is a fair point. He's doing great.

Yep. I would imagine if you show up. to a softball game and the Long brothers are playing against you. Like, I'm just going to go home. Nah, dude. They see us as like blood in the water, I think. Oh, you got a target on your back. Yeah, target on her backs. Who's up? You're up. I'm up. Oh, yeah, it's a snake draft. Uh, let me go, let me go Fergie singing the national anthem at the all star game. Uh, this was her big chance, uh, to be cool and sit at the cool kids table and she fucking

absolutely butchered it. So I'll go Fergie at the national. anthem that's a good one that's a good one I'm gonna go a throwback one you guys might remember Ruben Patterson for the Portland Trailblazers shit what do you do

call himself the Kobe stopper oh yeah and then Kobe put like 37 on him in the playoffs I just remember it it's like a seminal memory of mine I don't know why of Ruben Patterson with his feet in an ice bucket before the game and like everyone being like Kobe stopper Kobe stop and you could just tell like he didn't actually believe it. He just was trying to hype himself up and Kobe just completely torched him.

But calling yourself the Kobe stopper and then having that happen is quite something. You can't do that. For about two seconds, they started to call this is not my pick. Raja Bell, the Kobe stopper because he got, uh, he clothes lined him and then got tossed from a game. Kobe said, does he know me? Do I know this guy? I don't know this guy.

I might have said one word to this guy. I don't know this kid. I don't need to know this kid. I don't want to. Maybe he wasn't hugged enough as a kid. I looked at him a little bit. He gets a little insecure or something. I don't know.

So Kobe, that's like the original. Too small. That's not my pick. My pick's going to be, here I'll go chalky for you. I'll pander and take Robin Ventura. If you're going to head out to the mound and take on a guy who's seemingly twice.

That's true, dude. That's a great pick. You can't get put into a headlock. That's a great pick. You can't get hit. You can't get put into a headlock. Nolan Ryan, sonned him, Robin Ventura, not him. That's a great one. That's a great pick. There you go, see? I just pumped you up. Okay. Thanks, Dan. Edward Smith. Edward Smith is my next pick. He was the driver of the Titanic.

Just square into the iceberg. Too big to fail. Yeah. You know, they're saying that about Barstool Sports, Dan, too big to fail. Too big to fail. We're too small to fail. Good pick. Thanks. That was a really good pick.

We might move. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah, just move. Go ahead, Dan. Okay. Is this the last round? Yeah, I don't know how many rounds.

This is Dan's six pick. Okay. Yeah, you guys told me there's a five-pick draft. Yeah, well, welcome to the NFL. You dropped six on me. Um, okay, I don't you, maybe you guys know more about history, but my last pick will be, uh, King George the third who, uh, was basically like, you guys can't start your own country, like go ahead and try. And then we did. And then we fucked him up. And they're like, yeah, no, no, no, this isn't going to work.

Um, so we, he was total. I'm not him moment. That's good. Yeah. Did it work though? This country been working. Yeah. Yeah. We'll, yeah. We'll, we'll, yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll, yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll see. We'll figure it out. Okay. All right. Last pick of the draft. Last pick of the draft. I'm prepared for seven. I'll go seven. I'll go seven. I'll go seven. I'll go seven. I got two picks for you. Scott Norwood. They had to go drafted. You know, I mean, fucking major. I'm not him moment. I know it's chalky, but I've waited.

Okay. And then Joaquin Phoenix and the gladiator. Nice. He fucking, he fucking stab Russell Crow on the way to the game and Russell Crow still won. You know? he's not him Okay Yeah Nice pick Good pick

A movie Okay my last pick Is actually going to be myself For this last NFL season I declared in September That I was going to have the best gambling season of my life And I started this season going Oh and 11 in NFL games

Documented Oh and 11 After saying that So total I'm not him I'm not that guy I will never win. Do you try to teaser? Gambling.

No, it's just straight picks. Hard to do. Go 0 and 11. Yeah. But yeah, it was a humbling reminder. I did catch some of that in the group text that you weren't doing. Yeah. It was bad.

It was a bad start. Down marker holder, Colorado, Missouri, 1990, also known as the fifth down game. Oh, yeah. You can't give a, you can't give a team five downs. That's how they. You did good, man. This is a good draft. Listen up.

I'm not him. Who's the, I'm not him? The refs? The holder of the down marker. Yeah, he got it. I'm not mad at anybody but him, you know? What's his name? Yeah, you know, and that's back when you were flipping it over.

It's not that difficult. Chris's team, Caitlin Jenner, Brian Bosworth, Howard Dean, Bill Buckner, Furgy National Anthem, Scott Norwood, Joaquin Phoenix and Gladiator, Dan's team, Hitler, that's Adolf Hitler, Matt Hasselbeck, Ben Simmons, Dan Gilber, Ruben Patterson, King George the third, and himself last NFL season. He opened the draft with Hitler. He closed it with him. Yeah, nice

little bookend. My team, nice little team, Heath Schuller, David Schumer, Andres Escobar, Illinois Nazis, Robin Ventura, Edward Smith, driver of the Titanic, and the down marker in the fifth down game. Okay. Yeah, no, Robin Ventura was your best pick. The other ones were guard.

But the Robin Ventura is a chalky, like, you know, there's Josh Roe. Rosen is out there. You're not going to take Josh Rosen, you know? He said 19s made mistakes ahead of him. You keep saying chalky. I don't know. Like you took him in the fifth. Hey, hey, hey, big cat. Here's a couple I left on the on the cutting room floor here. Brad Davidson, Ethan Hap, Chuckie Hepburn, Bronson Caneig, Finn Brust, Abel, Josh Gasser. I could keep going. You guys won one title and you're going to be the douchebags?

one title and you're going to be the douchebacks because because the ref decided to call a bogus three point foul bogus yeah jesus i'm gonna i yeah he came in me first yeah you're right but then i got sprayed i thought i thought chucky hepburn was better than than he than he is yeah this is back in my game he's figuring it out okay he's figuring it out well good good draft guys really good Did you guys lose? Would I'm not him be being the number one overall seed and losing to a 16 seed? You know what?

That would be and I'm not hit. It went undrafted. Hey, did you know if Bo Ryan were a little bit nicer to Tony Bennett? Tony Bennett would probably be your coach right now, but Bo Ryan had to be a jerk? Did you know that if Penn Stock ever rebounds and goes higher, I'm going to personally write a check for Tony Bennett to come home to Madison?

Not going to happen. We got an ankle monitor on that motherfucker. I only had one other one I forgot until now, but Fredo and Godfather. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. He's like, I got this whole thing planned out. And, uh, LeBron's favorite line, I think in the movie. He's read the book many times.

So many times you can't tell you any of the characters. How about John Rocker? If he just, he just came along 20 years later, racism would have made it come back. Yeah, he would have had a show on L.A.N. Yeah. You would have been right back. With Tucker, actually. Yeah.

New sports and politics. All right, cool. Good draft. Can we let Dan go? Not yet. Hey, Big Cat, to your and your team's credit, you're probably one of the most you are. You're one of the most recognizable sports media personalities right now. Your level of fame, talk to us.

Can we go to the grocery store? Can we go to the ball game? Is there always a picture? Is there always an autograph? How are we? Are you going out in disguise? What's the best level of fame? Dan Katz two years ago or two years from now?

Your thoughts. Oh, good question. I can go anywhere. I do, like if I go to a sports event, there's a lot of pictures, but our fans are the best. Like, it's never. Our fans are the best. Okay, well, I said it first. So our fans are the best.

Like, people are very cool. Say what's up. If I'm with my family, they'll usually just give me like a what's up. cat not asked me for a picture or anything. That's good. Um, which is I appreciate that very much, uh, because then my son's like, who are the like, is that your friend? And I'm like, well, kind of. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yes. It is my friend. Then he's like, how do you have all these friends? But, um, it's good. I, the best way to describe it is, uh, I don't go out much anymore because of my family.

So it might be a burden if I was like single in my 20s. But the best way to describe it is every bar I walk into a gay bar for me personally because every dude's like oh big cats here and no girls ever like what is it? Dan I got to break something to you before you oh Rogers Aaron Rogers

Before you're Rogers just bro this is an exclusive This is an exclusive reaction reaction Jets get Aaron Rogers Pick number 15 a 2023 fifth round pick that's pick number 170 and the Packers get pick number 13 a 2023 second uh six or a whole fucking shit ton of picks dan your reaction best day ever

which is i wanted this guy gone out of my life for the longest time he's i knew he was gone but just seeing it it's just so great he's gone he can go he can live in new york he can hang out in williamsburg he can be a drug addict or whatever Tommy alter yeah right exactly he can do all that shit. He's just gone. And I, he took perverse pleasure in beating the bears. I know that. He beat the fuck out of us constantly. It's over. Jordan Love, I'm not worried about. Maybe this will bite me in the ass, but I'm not worried about right now. I know Packers fans are like, oh, Jordan Love's going to be great. Let's fucking, let's, let's pump the brakes. Let's see it a little bit. Yeah, this clip will probably hurt me. But he's gone. And all I'll say is, could you imagine

having two Hall of Fame quarterbacks for almost 30 years and only having two Super Bowls to say for it. Like that's pretty tough. That's, I think if you have to judge Aaron Rogers' career and Brett Farv's career, the only word that comes into mind is disappointment. Wow. And he's, Dan's had about 30 quarterbacks in 30 years and maybe two playoff wins.

Yeah, but yep, yep, that's fine. That's fine. That's fine. Justin Fields is him. He is him. There you go. make our draft. Dan Katz is him. We appreciate the time. It is good to see you on the other side of the Zoom, my brother, and hope you come back again. I would love to come back. I am definitely,

definitely before I come back, going to try to buy some fake real estate from making. Just so I have a story. Like, next time I come on, I'm going to be like, making how the leads going. Got any big dogs on the, you know, big fish on the line. And then I'm going to call him from my number and he's going to be like, hold on, I got to take this client. Like, gotcha. This guy's also calling from a mental institution. The part of my take. Barso Sports, yeah.

No, listen. We do have our, like, if you, if you walked in on a random day, you'd be like, this is one flew over the cuckus now. Yeah, pretty much. Are you, uh, are you, what's his name? Are you Jack Nicholson?

I don't know. I think I just, all of us take turns like transitioning between crazy and not crazy. It's a beauty of this place. All right, good. Love you, Dan. Yeah, much love, bro. Love you guys.

Thank you guys for having me on.