Green Light with Chris Long - Big Cat! Kevin Keatts! NCAA Tournament Gambling, NC State in the Sweet 16 & Hip Drop Tackle Outlawed in the NFL

Episode Date: March 26, 2024

Big Cat and Kevin Keatts join Chris and Macon to talk the NCAA TOURNEY! Chris, Macon and Bad Back Badke start off with a Layup Line and HELLO, and get into the NFL banning the Hip Drop Tackle and the L'Jarius Sneed trade. Then Big Cat joins to talk about March Madness gambling, the tournament's first weekend, his take on Shohei Ohtani and Caleb Williams and draft March Madness All Vibes team with Chris and Macon. Kevin Keatts ends the show talking about NC State's Sweet 16 run, DJ Burns & college basketball trends. College Basketball FOREVER! (00:00) - Hello & Layup Line (5:30) - The NFL Bans the Hip-Drop Tackle (25:22) - L'Jarius Sneed traded to the Tennessee Titans (36:45) - Big Cat on March Madness gambling, the first weekend of the NCAA Tournament and March Madness All Vibes team (1:41:22) - Kevin Keatts on NC State Basketball, DJ Burns and the Sweet 16 Want your Green Light Merch so you can look exactly like Chris and the fellas? Hit the website below and get kitted! https://stores.kotisdesign.com/yotehouse/products Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgxWFAA-wuB7osdiAJyLOcw Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

But Terrence Shannon has been on a tear, an absolute tear. He's averaging 30 and a half points in the last six games. The only problem with Illinois is that they don't play a ton of defense. And I think the scary thing about Yukon is they can just, they can do whatever style you want to do. Like if you want to run, they can run. Oh, they ran. They were killing them in transition early in that game.

Exactly. If you want to slow it down and play defense, they'll do that. Like they have an answer for seemingly every single problem. The Greenlight podcast welcomes you. It's March, it's madness. We tackle that all today with Big Cat and NC State's men's basketball head coach Kevin Keats. Big Cat recap the first weekend, all the upsets, all the crazy plays, and jump in on our All Vives draft. Chris making Big Cat will draft their All Vives team.

He'll even weigh in on Caleb Williams and Sho Hay Otani. Coach Keats has led his team to a sweet 16 birth as an 11-10. seed the Wolf Packer ball in at the right time. Coach talks about the big man, DJ Burns, NC State's history in the NCAA tournament, and preparing for these games. Some of them, they only have a couple days. They have to be ready for multiple opponents. Coach gets into all that. To start the show off, you will get a little NFL news from Chris. He's going to update us on the hip-drop tackle, his thoughts where he thinks the NFL went wrong, and how they're even going to enforce this rule, and his take on the legurious need trade.

Why the chiefs needed to do this, how much this improves the Titans and the impact in the AFC South. And it is a blast. I have a layup line. Hot stuff. Donna Summer. And I just want to tell you,

you know the song Hot Stuff. I know the song Hot Stuff. It's been in a million commercials. It's been a million movies. But I was at Dirty Nellies the other night. And this fucking song came on. And I was like, I shazammed it.

like it was some indie band. And it's the fucking, it's one of the most famous songs of all time. But the problem with famous songs is you only hear little snippets of the famous songs. The entire song is funky as fuck, man. It's not just hot stuff. I mean, I can really get down with this song. So I just wanted to encourage everybody to listen to Hot Stuff by Donna Summer and listen to the whole song. You can just skip through the chorus.

It's not that good. It's really, it's the guts of the song that makes it work. Makin, what does this remind you of? Well, Donna Summer. You know much about Donna Summer? Well, there's an S&L skit that I've referenced here a couple of times. You got a hello? I'll simmer down now.

Yeah, Pullman, Washington. Chris? Hello! Hello! Hello! Pullman, Washington. Pullman, Washington, home of the Washington State Cougars. They last went to an NCAA tournament under Tony Bennett, who left for Virginia.

and now Kyle Smith, who has taken him back to the tournament for the first time in 16 years, has left to go to Stanford. So at the end of the game last night, you know, Meg had a bunch of her friends in that she played college lacrosse with, and they were all, like, held around the TV. And some of them were on Houston. I was on A&M, and as the game ended, I made it real funny. We just put it that way. I was like, it's time for all the Cougars to go to bed now.

Oh, nice. Yeah. I don't know if they took that as a compliment, because I think. Cougars are usually like 50 plus, 60 plus. Is that where we start the, I'm saying your 40s, late 30s. Really? For us now. Really?

Yeah, for sure. No, milf is 30. Milt is in the 30s, dude. Cougar, yeah, probably 50s. A 45-year-old milf? I would say 35 to 55 is a cougar. I think you're... It's an endearing compliment.

I think you're missing the mark. When I think a cougars, I think twice divorced, you know, maybe kids in college. Kim Mulkey, 61. hanging out at like Davios or one of these like upscale chains in the city, you know, but not downtown in the, like in a strip mall at one of these. Wine bars. Yeah, wine bar. Like a chain wine bar.

Shout out to, uh, to Wazoo. The Paloos looks beautiful. Have you ever spent any time? Oh, it does look beautiful. Yeah, that's Pullman for you. And, um, they lost a second straight coach to the ACC. see. Ken Bone was in there in the middle, too. Flock into a better life.

I bet you the team in Stanford will be tough. You think so? You're a big Kyle Smith guy? I'm a big toughness guy. He is. Yeah, he is. You're not going to like what the NFL did. No. Okay. But you know who does like it? As a Chicago guy, how do you feel about a former Chicago Bear Great getting online today

and crusading for the rural church? change. Oh, is he like in the rule change? Kyle's into the rule change. Easy from his office at home. I woke up this morning and decided that he likes the rule change. Okay. And he is engaging in a back and forth with a lot of people. I've been dragged into these conversations because of Kyle's takes.

I've got people calling all the long boys bitches. I'm in the long. I'm in the middle. I was, I had no issue with people calling Kyle a moron for the take. But I'm looking at his replies almost for entertainment. And there's people like roping me. and my brothers and my whole family into it. So I'm DMing a guy inviting him to Charlottesville.

For what? You tell me, buddy. All right. You're going to be in an alley? What are you going to do? What are you? Not an alley. He wants it to dress. Oh, all right.

I said proof of plane ticket, buddy. When you land, I'll pick you up. No problem. I love that. He ain't coming. Okay, so anyways, the big news in the NFL today, And there's potentially just as big news, but it got kind of swept under the rug because of this hip drop tackle thing. But there's a couple things that are happening next year.

They're working to ban the hip, hip drop tackle. What that means is next year it's going to be a penalty, I'm sure. And they're going to emphasize it, not unlike when they put an emphasis on landing on the quarterback and that sort of thing. And I thought they were really, they tried to scare you straight, like right off the bat. Like a lot of times with a new rule like this, the first couple weeks, they're just doing it nonsense. stop one year i remember when um there was a a p i rule that got amended or something outside and this goes to show you how quickly we forget and and move on and and adjust to the changes in the game is we'll complain about something incessantly because it's new and because the NFL is like putting

an uh you know an emphasis on it so the first month or six weeks of the season you're like we can never go on like this but once they scare you straight and people make the adjustment they kind of back off it and i'm hoping that's what happens here because you know know well I do see the dangers of the hip drop tackle which by the way this wasn't a thing I had ever heard of you know I would echo AJ Hawks sentiments on the Pat McAvey show earlier today they had Adam Schefter on and shefter asked him hey when did you employ this hip drop tackle how much you think you did in your career and AJ Hawks said well to be honest with you I didn't even know it was a thing until like six months ago so I can't tell you how many times I've done this you know like

and I think for a lot of people listening right now who are a little bit more casual or maybe don't follow the NFL as closely and just listen to this podcast. The hip drop tackle is something that that has come up over the last calendar year. You saw it happen to Mark Andrews. You've seen it happen to Tyreek. You saw it happen to Tony Pollard in the playoffs a year or two ago. Even though I didn't think the Pollard won and they used it on the teaching tape of what is a hip drop tackle. Is that crazy?

And that's, you know, it's a bang, bang play. A lot of these things are going to look like hip drop tackles when for sure they're not meant to be. and they're borderline in the execution. But the point is what we saw Logan Wilson do to Mark Andrews on a Monday night, I think this year, at the sticks, which is the only recourse naturally based on the momentum of the player sometimes or the position on the field when you've got to get a guy down right now. You don't want him going forward anymore.

You're not trying to hurt him, but you're ending up trying to drop your weight and get the ball carrier down. And it's not that easy. This tackle is now going to be a point of emphasis. They're trying to get rid of this tackle. And, you know, the NFL says 20 to 25 times more dangerous than another tackle. I'm sure there's a way that they glean this information. But to me, that's pretty convenient data.

I don't know. I'd love to go through that study and see how they came up with that number. But there are players that have gotten hurt this way, and they say it's akin to the horse collar tackle. And in some ways, I get the physics of that claim. But, you know, when I was in the league, we talked about a gator tackle, not unlike A.J. Hawk, we might have called it something different, or it was just, you know, it was just get the guy down. And I think this is the most important thing to understand if you're listening and you're wondering, like, why can a player not avoid doing this? As a player, as a defensive end, who was coming down

the line a lot, horizontally, you know, sideline to sideline to try to chase a playdown on the backside or that sort of thing, or a tackle in the open field, you're running really fast, and football's three-dimensional, dude. It's not just, you know, it's not just your chase. after a guy he's running away from you. He might be running away from you and cutting it up field at the same time. And so what you do is you end up on the backside. I was a poor tackler. So I was out of control and I often ended up on the backside of guy's shoulder pads because I think it's ingrained in your head as an athlete that you know even in a moment's notice that this guy's trying to go right to left. And I'm running down the line and he's trying to go upfield.

Well, I got to stop his momentum. I got to get him down and I don't want to ride him for four yards. been on Marshawn Lynch's back for four or five yards. I didn't drop my hips. I jumped on his back and I was like a fucking cape dude. He carried me for five yards and that's what can happen with these ball carriers now. So oftentimes what you do is you run full speed a lot of times not purposely you end up on the back shoulder these guys and you know when you look at the the definition of the rule and making showed me this earlier it was like you know you've got to have three elements to this thing to make it a hip drop tackle. Number one is grip. Number two is the twist. Number three is the drop. Okay. And you got to have all three of those

things. So I'm going to try to make a case for why it is not intentional at the very least. And two, it's probably unavoidable in a lot of football plays. Like number one, I never intentionally drop my hips on somebody. Now, sometimes I look at the Logan Wilson tackle and I think that looks intentional to me because he's so good at tackling. You know, he's a linebacker. This is what he does every day. So like, I assume that his job is a little easier than mine, so I assume some intent there because he's executing it perfectly by the letter of the law. But you hear linebackers talk about it, and they think it's ludicrous, you know? And so I look at this thing, your momentum is literally what's twisting, you know, gripping. You have to grip. Okay, so number one, I got a grip. I got to get

a hold of the ball carrier. Two, I'm going full speed, and I'm running perpendicular. to his heading, right? Because it's a running back who's hitting the hole and I'm trying to close that hole immediately on the back side because I'm unblocked or whatever. I am naturally going to whip around the side of his back. You know, when you grab onto somebody's shoulder and you're running full speed and they're running sideways, you are going to go in the direction that you, that you were running, right? And if you have grip, you're going to probably swing around this guy's back forcefully. And then what do you do? Do you hang out on his back? Do you fall off or do you drop your weight?

Because that's what a tackle is. And so listen, Kyle, my brother got online today and he's pro-implementation of the rule. Well, he's an offensive guy. That's all I can figure out on this one. Because I couldn't disagree more. I think this is a rule that's going to be disruptive. I think it's an

unfortunate reality of an unsafe game, and we have many of those unfortunate realities that we don't try to change. You know, this is one that we're going to try to change because we say it's 20 or 25 times more dangerous than a regular tackle. Also, Adam Schaefter said not unanimous when he was describing the way this was discussed among NFL front office people that he talked to. So I've laid out why it happens.

It happens because it's a fast three-dimensional game and players are moving really fast. They're not always heading up, tackling a guy face up. They're not always tackling a guy directly from behind. A lot of the tackles that we make are from the side. Now, you could say get your head across, but this game is played at a fucking fast speed with some of the best athletes in the world. Where he is now is not where he's going to be, and no pursuit angle is going to help sometimes when it comes to an unathletic, relatively speaking,

defensive end like me. Or a linebacker trying to get a guy down. Or a corner who got beat on a slant in the middle of the field. Like, this is going to happen a lot. And I just want to say this. Where this is going to go, just like to stay off the guy's head, is it's going to go, you're just moving the danger somewhere else.

You know, you're just redistributing the danger. And the danger was perfectly exhibited in that Detroit, L.A. playoff game, and people say, hey, Kirby Joseph looks like he's taking guys' legs out. But you created the situation where guys are saying, well, I have, if I want to get a guy down violently, I'm going to go below the knees because I can't hit him up top anymore. You know, you don't want the Michael Pittman Jr. thing to happen. You also don't want the Tyler Higbee thing to happen. Where is the strike zone? They'll tell you in the middle of somebody's body. But, you know, defenders are putting themselves in peril sometimes.

You're giving up 100 pounds to a tight end. Am I going to launch myself at this guy's midsection? No, I'm going to fucking take out his knees. And so there's going to be a lot of people that are going to call certain tackles dirty next year when a guy's coming in from the side. If I were a player, because I wasn't the best tackler, what I would do now is I would be like a bowling ball and I'd be headed for the side of the guy's knee. And then you're going to tell me that I'm dirty and that I'm trying to take guys' ACLs out.

And that's not the case. I just need to get the guy on the ground and you have handcuffed a lot of inferior athletes like myself. I don't worry about safeties or corners. I worry about the big guys trying to get guys down. And, you know, I saw they used an example of a tackle in the pocket. And I agree with that example. When you're in the pocket, if you hip-drop, tackle a guy,

you should maybe get penalized. But out in the field, it's too hard, man. It's just too hard. And the reason they're doing this has nothing to do with safety. Make no mistake. If it was about safety, we wouldn't play football. If it was about safety, we would ban double teams. If it was about safety, we would ban cup blocks. If it was about safety, we would fucking change the surface of the field of play.

Because you want to talk about people's foot getting stuck in the ground and all this stuff. If we really cared, we'd turn every field to grass and we'd ban the hip drop tackle. If we really cared, what we would do is the minute you jump on somebody's back, they blow the play dead. That to me is safer than this.

Why aren't we doing the safer thing? Because it's about offense. And because as you look at the, the league every year they're trying to make these incremental changes to where it's more like seven on seven. It's never going to be a game that's not dangerous. So what you get is a dangerous game and a game that slanted towards the offense. And I think people are still going to get hurt. This doesn't clean the game up.

But what it does is it gets the points up because this, especially in the middle of the field, is going to be a problem for defenses. And in 2018, 23.3 points a game, 2019, 22.8 points a game, 2020, 24.8. Was that the pandemic year 2020? Mm-hmm. Yeah, no crowds in the stands, easier for offenses on the road. You get 24.8 points a game, 2021, 23 points, 2020, 22, 21.9 points. And then this year, 21.8 points.

So in the NFL's eyes, if you take out, you know, that 2020, 20, 21, period, Like a difference of a point and a half, two points a game is a big deal to them. And I think last year you looked at it with all the quarterbacks getting hurt and like, it's the last thing you want, you don't want scoring to be down. You don't want quarterbacks to be on the sideline. Everything is slanted to affect that change so that they can score more. And then the second thing is this, the rule that came up off of this that's kind of hidden behind it is the new review rule, which is that coaches will get a third challenge if they hit their second challenge, right?

If you don't fuck up your challenges, you don't fuck up your challenges. You're awarded a third challenge. Well, no, now if you just go one for two, right? You just need to go one for two. You go one for two. And here's what I think they're going with here. So like on the player safety end of things, they're couching this hip drop tackle in the interest of player safety when it's actually about scoring.

And they're couching this challenge thing as an effort to give coaches more opportunities to get calls right, when really they're avoiding. that late play in the game where there's no challenges remaining. They want to give as many people second looks at these bad calls because we had as many bad calls as we ever have last year. And I think they're mopping up for these officials with that rule change. And they're trying to make things even harder on defenses with the other change. It has nothing to with safety.

It has nothing to do with adding another challenge just for the fuck of it. They're doing it to cover for the officials and make the game, you know, more of an offensive game. joke about it, I think they don't mind the controversy when it comes to challenges. It's another commercial break oftentimes. Damn Gene Stereator is going to have to ask for a pay raise with all these hip drops. What's interesting, it looks like more penalties,

more stoppages, more reviews. Don't you think the big guys hitting a quarterback in the pocket have adapted to not putting their body weight on to quarterbacks? Is there any sort of... I still think the body weight's ridiculous. Is there any sort of mid- hip drop tackle fix to the body weight on somebody's lower extremities it would seem no i i don't know i don't know that there is like you know when you tell a guy don't don't land on a guy like there's a lot of

ways we can do that differently like the the the situation in which you come upon the tackle is the same right like okay i i've i've made contact with the quarterback my heads down my my shoulders on his hip now i just need to gator roll you know we would call it a gator roll what's a gator roll it's a gator roll it's a Gator roll. Well, a gator roll would be a way not to, I mean, like you can gator roll. You grab the guy and you roll, right? To get him down. And in that scenario, like, what happens to a quarterback in the pocket? You're not trying to hurt him, but you are slamming him on the ground with the roll. And you can do it softly to avoid the weight landing on a quarterback by, like, changing the dispersion of your weight. There's a lot of ways around not landing on a quarterback. I don't know how you don't gator tackle somebody. I mean, like in the open field, I don't know how you don't know how you don't. hip drop quote unquote tackle somebody in the open field when you're running 18 miles an hour chasing jemar chase and you're a backer that gives up 0.4 10th of a second or 40 and all of a sudden you find yourself on this guy's back like what are you going to do you know or if you're if you're if you're devon white and you're running sideline and sideline and you end up on you know this

tight end from Dallas is back and you know you could either get drug another five yards or get the guy down like I don't know how you're going to change the way you've been tackling since you were 12 years old everybody's got to be more like a d just just push him down you just got to grab people or you have to I mean honestly harpoon people in the legs I mean that that's where it's going so it sounds like we're taking the overs we have to take the overs and that that pains me because I'm the undertaker but it just fucking pains me as a fan it's hard to take these tiki-tack things seriously because the same organization is asking a guy to play a game on Sunday and a game on Thursday. And it's like this just masks that whole big idea here, and it's hard to kind of take that.

It's because their motivation is not safety. If their motivation were safety, there'd be a ton of things that they would do right now to make the game safer. Just like I said, the motivation with the third challenge is to cover their asses on bad officiating late in games. And the motivation with this thing is to drive the points up. has nothing to a safety. If it were quarterbacks that were getting hit more often with these hip drop tackles, which doesn't happen as much because they're not running full speed in the pocket, right?

You know, it's a difficult, if guys were really trying to do this, you'd see it more in the pocket, you know, because this would be an acceptable way to get a quarterback down. Guys aren't doing this on purpose. Guys are doing this out of necessity, and because physics dictate that sometimes you're going to be on somebody's back hip, swinging around to their right hip a hundred miles an hour going from the left

hip to the right hip behind them eventually your force will pull them and eventually your force will drop you to the ground. That is physics, man. And so we're starting to rewrite the laws of physics here without changing the game for the offensive players. Have you slowed down this Mark Andrews injury?

I mean, there's literally nothing that could be done differently. Let me see it. I mean, I remember in real time just thinking God, that guy's so athletic, there's no way he doesn't know what he's doing. but then when it slowed down, I remember having the same thought. Yeah. I don't know.

No, you know what it is? You see that yellow line there? And you can see, you can see Logan Wilson before he knows that Mark Andrews is hurt, put his foot between him and the marker. Like he gets him down, and this is the red zone. Like this is a low red in a zero zero ball game. Cincinnati's fighting for their playoff lives. They lose this game.

Anyways, Burrow gets hurt for a second time. But he gets Mark Andrews down just short. of the sticks, gets up, kind of gives him a little tea bag, kind of is like, hey, get back, man. You get the fucking first down. But what we're litigating here is the tackle, not, not, you know, not the aftermath. Then he realizes hurt and kind of backs off. I don't think this is a dirty play.

His body weight doesn't even really hit him. Run it back one more time. His knees go over him. Do you see what I'm saying, though? So like, he just ends up on his hip. I mean, that's not even a hip drop the way. I agree. I agree.

When I think about a hip drop, I think there's some period of riding the guy's back and then swinging your legs around him and dropping your legs. Like, this is an unfortunate situation. It's just a guy trying to get a guy down at the sticks. That's just a football play. It's just a football play. An ankle getting caught under his hip right there. But not a hip drop tackle.

Yeah, no, no. Listen, this is going to be really difficult. And with any of these changes, and we've seen some. many of them. So like I tweeted this earlier because we see this all the time. Hey, we're changing the rules on the quarterback. We're changing this rule with DPI. We're changing this rule. We're going instant replay. There were people that said they were never going to watch the game again. People said they were never going to watch the game again a couple years ago. They're back in the chow line. The whole point is the NFL has realized something. The NFL has realized that it is bulletproof.

And like too big to fail, whatever you want to call it, like I don't think there's a Rome scenario with the NFL. I just think the NFL is just not going to fail. The NFL, we are too, we are too in love with the NFL as a country to ever put it down. And if you put it down, somebody else is going to pick it up. Because there's young fans that are growing up right now playing flag football, right? So, you know, when these older guys, these old hardos like me are like, what are it was going to be flag football next? There's a whole generation of kids that all they do is seven on seven camps and flag football. And so the game is changing. And, and, you know, and, you know, it's going to be flag football. And, And whatever the motivation for the NFL, it might not be altruistic.

It might not be just to make the game safer. It might be to make more money, to score more points, to cover for the officials, whatever they're making changes about. But every time we make a change, people go up in arms about it and act like they're not going to watch football anymore. I will be back in the chow line. Everybody will be back in the chow line. Show me somebody that complained about the hip drop tackle today that will not be watching football this fall. because if you know about the hip drop tackle

and what's going on in the NFL, you're plugged into the calendar. They already got you. It's the middle of March Madness and what feels like the biggest news today on X is the hip drop tackle. So you care about football and I have never met somebody

that watched the NFL enough to follow it March, April, May, June. I've never met this person and then in the fall is like, I can't watch this shit. Yep. You're right. It's just not going to happen. They know that. The NFL knows that.

So whatever they do, they know they're still going to grow. Hey, listen, there's not some big take here. The take is that, like, I don't like the rule, and I think it's for the offenses. But I'm not going to throw a tantrum about it because eventually I'm going to adjust. It's just the way it is. And I don't have to worry about it anymore as a player.

If I was a player, it would be a big deal. I think another thing, though, the 15 yards, like, make that a five-yard penalty. make that like why does that have to be such a big amount of yeah no that's a good that's a good point you know there's a way to get the emphasis without like killing teams for it because you know you get one of these 15 yarders i mean yeah you're in one then all of a sudden you're in field goal range yeah it's big deal it's which will help scoring well the nfl knows this when you run numbers for like hey if a team incurs a 15 yard penalty on on a given drive like their their chances of

scoring a touchdown go way up way up and I don't have the figures in front of me coaches used to at the beginning of every season take us through this kind of officiating meeting where it's like hey if we have one penalty on drive they have a higher chance of score if it's a 15 yard penalty it goes up exponentially

so they know this the NFL knows this if they can calculate hip drop tackles relative to you know the danger level on a standard tackle they also can calculate what a 15 yard penalty does to a scoring average Yeah, and like a judgment call like this shouldn't affect the outcome of a game.

And 15 yards does that often, and it's going to. It will at some point. And I think probably the hope for them is that they call it enough early that it's not going to be a big deal late. But I think what they'll find is because they've never had to make tackles, you end up in these situations more than you want to as a player. You don't want to hurt people, but you end up in these situations. Do you want to talk about Legerious Need today? I do, man. You know, this is crazy.

They traded Legerius Sneed at like fucking 11 p.m. during March Madness. Got a future third rounder. Such a, you know, a news dump there. I think a lot of people are looking at it and saying, man, that wasn't much. Myself included,

and I think they thought they were going to get more. They were looking at like getting a two for Ligeria Seneid. Of course, when they franchised them, everybody knew that this was a possibility that they could be working on a trade. And it sounded like they were working on details of this trade for a little while now. So, you know, from the Chief's perspective,

it frees up 19 million cap space. I think they had around 8 million cap space. So now they can go out and pay for whoever they were going to pay for. I think it also speaks to the confidence they have in the group that they have in the building and then also the corners in the draft. Because, yeah, you can find a guy who might be four-fifths the player of Ligerius Sneed, hit a home run in the draft. Four-fist would still be a really fucking good player.

And you wouldn't have to pay him but a fraction of what you'd have to pay Lageria's need in a year. And we knew that they were probably not going to pay him long. term, especially after the Chris Jones deal. So I just look at it from the Titan standpoint. And I'll just say this before we move on from the Chiefs. Quiet as kept, the Chiefs are missing two of their most important players. Yes, they got Chris Jones signed, but they're going to miss Willie Gay, who's down in New Orleans, who I think gave them a sideline-to-sideline ability that nobody else on that second level of that defense did. I mean, I love Nick Bolton, but Willie Gay stringing out plays sideline to sideline. That's an important thing. The matchups

in the past game, that sort of thing. Legerius Sneed was such an eraser for them and such a physical presence. Now, McDuffie came on and he's a bona fide all pro. You know, they've got other guys outside they like, but you will be missing not only

a lockdown corner, which teams are lucky if they have one of those guys, right? They kind of had two of those guys. But you'll also be missing a tone setter. And I think when you look at Tennessee and their new decontator, Dernard Wilson, who I know who I spent time with in Philly,

love the guy, hopefully we can get him on the show soon, he is building a defense that looks pretty stingy. Okay, like when you look at McCreary, you got a Woozier who they picked up, that secondary outside looks pretty good now. They got to get the safety thing worked out, the middle of the field at the second level, still up in the air.

But to have Simmons in there, to have guys like Hooker, you know, like they really are accumulating some names in Tennessee. And now they've got a couple of questions. corners. And in that division, that, that's pretty important because I think the one thing that they said coming in this offseason, making the move for Calvin Ridley, making the move for Tony Pollard, these are moves that say, we think we win now. Like, they're not a team that's just spending money to spend money. They believe in Will Elvis. So they know that in this division, you're going

to have to outscore Houston. And so they add those pieces. You know what else you got to do? You got to have really good corners, right? Because you've got a quarterback down there in Houston who can sneeze and go for 350. Nico and tank. Nico and tank. Now you've got a couple guys outside that you feel like can match up. Big differentiator. And I thought this defense, this defense wasn't a train wreck last year.

I mean, they were middle of the field when it comes to, you know, points allowed and that sort of thing. I mean, like, listen, they weren't that talented. If they can play with the same edge and toughness, they've got an uptick and talent now. I think this team could be a lot of fun. I don't, I'm not going to put anything on their ceiling. It's so early in the offseason. but I love to see a team go for it.

And I've heard good things about the head coach from the guys that are in Cincinnati, thinking coach's ass off. And the defensive coordinator, I know him. I like him. And you know I love Legerrius Neat. And you know I love Jeffrey Simmons. And you know I like a lot of these moves that they've made. So I'm going to be bullish on the Titans.

I'm not saying they're going to go to the playoffs or win 13 games, but they could be a team that makes some noise and they could be a tough out for a lot of people. They also picked up Sebastian Joseph Day. Cushberry, Fisherbury, to help out Will Levis. Who's a really good player. He's a good player. And Kenneth Murray, Jr. in the middle of the defense. Yeah, so listen, they're making moves and, you know, more power to them.

A lot of teams, a lot of fans are looking around the league of their favorite teams right now. Like, why don't we make any moves? Like, if you're a Titans fan, you've got to be excited. Don't be complaining about these fucking signings. We paid too much for Calvin Ridley. Just be happy they're making moves because that gives you something to talk about this time of year. Chicago, for instance, last several years. Hold on. Let's not forget who's behind the curtain and still in the room in KC. Spags.

Yeah. No question. He'll be just fine. If there's one place that you can manufacture pressure, it's KC. If there's one place that you can confuse in coverage, it's KC. I think the biggest thing you lose is you lose one guy that is used to everything you disguise, that's so tuned into the pre-snap, that, you know, like he's a standard. bearer. If you watch the way that they worked, he was like that standard bearer for them. And, you know, like maybe they're saying, hey, McDuffie, it's your turn now to be that leader. And, uh, and that's a

pretty powerful passing of the torch because Sneed had such a great run in Kansas City under the radar for a lot of the time. And he was just such a blanket. Seven times last year, uh, he covered the opponent's top receiver, 65% of snaps. And only one time did that receiver have more than two catches. That was Devante Adams. That's wild, dude. He was, he was boring good at times, you know, and so, uh, you know, congrats to him because Ken City wasn't going to be able to pay him. Tennessee obviously had the money to do it and they were willing to do it. And so more power to him and, and I'm excited to watch him play. Man, if they could just get in those Houston, Texans throwbacks, who the way they look when they played Atlanta, they'd win 14

games. All ones and two Cs left in NCAA tournament. be a good one we'll break that down with big cat yeah and then the uh the head man of the team spoiling the party the 11 c nc stay wolf pack led by kevin keats i think i had i think i had the best day ever friday wow like it was just amazing like i said meg's friends came in uh and so she was like hey sorry i can't hang out all weekend really my friends are going to be here sorry we did get some babysit and help and you know i know basketball's on so you do you do it's like you do it's a little bit what you want Friday and I was like I think I'll go watch basketball a day um yeah and so we we we I don't think I saw the sun but to pick up my chick-fil-a door dash from the door downstairs all day

and that's the way it should be in March Madness we had a terrific day March Madness we locked the doors March Madness is not a family atmosphere no dude at all like though it is lock me in a room leave me alone for four days no sunlight a lot of gambling a lot of pot a lot of mushrooms. That's just, I'm just speaking for myself. It was just a terrific, terrific day. And, uh, you know, a lot of people came and went. Like, you know, as certain, certain friends were like, oh, fuck, I got to do this thing. Or my wife gave me till six o'clock. I was like, well, I have till Saturday after. Literally, when I came in on Friday, I walked in with a duffel bag. Like I brought an overnight bag to the office. He's like, yeah, if I want to stay here, I'll stay here tonight.

Like, it doesn't fucking matter. I have the whole day off. So I appreciate. I appreciate it. I I appreciate Meg for giving me the weekend largely off. And then Saturday night, she's like, I got more bad news. Me and my friends are going to go out all night. Can you stay home and watch the monitor? I was like, there's nothing I would rather do than stay home and watch the monitor. So it was great weekend. Hope everybody had a great March Madness first weekend.

It was not kind in my wallets, but not too unkind. There's enough in it to make some big sweet 16 plays. All right, so here's Big Cat. And then stick around for coach Kevin Keats. Hey y'all green light has official merch like this hat right here like the one on my head this dad hat love this hat I'm not even a dad hat guy but this thing fits great this this hat right here fits great uh we've got hoodies we've got tea by the way this hoodie's like super comfy I mean it's like soft plush it's not the type of hoodie that's going to get

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money this weekend i don't know uh we'll ask him in a second dan cats a k a big cat what up dude what's up guys um might have lost money is too kind i have never not lost money the first weekend of march madness i came to realization on friday middialization on friday mid day that I will never win. I'll never be a guy who wins at gambling. I just need to be a guy who's rich with friends. So I started like we were in the gambling cave and I thought Nebraska had no chance of beating Texas A&M, but Will Compton was with us.

And I was like, I'll bet Nebraska because I need friends because I won't win. So yeah, never never win money, but it was a great weekend. I love college hoops best time of year. How much you lose on Nebraska? that was 8,000 okay all right what was the biggest loss on the weekend

um yesterday was a bloodbath for a while oh actually yeah no I was again being a good friend I lost $15,000 on JMU easy that was that was never a doubt um against Duke that was we I don't think we got to cheer for a single second so yeah somewhere in the 1520 is usually like whenever

I try to push it a little, but we have fun. It's fun time. Any bad beats this weekend? Oh, no, I actually was on the right side of two lucky, lucky winners that you never get. I had the double overtime Creighton, Oregon over, which we were riding out. I did a strategy where I was like, who's the dumbest guy in this room? Because I was doing so bad, and it was Ben Mintz. And I was like, give me the pick.

And then we took that pick. and his luck just always finds away and that game, if you watched it, had no business going over, but it was double overtime, so I got lucky with that. And then Oakland, I got lucky in overtime as well.

So I actually, that's actually really pathetic now that I think about it. You just asked if I had bad, I told you I lost all this money. You asked me if I had bad beats. I had zero bad beats. I actually had only lucky winners and I still lost all this money.

That's so bad. No, I know, I know the feeling. I'm glad it's not just me. seems like a lot of money. So I guess the follow-up is what was your gross income in 2023? It was it was not it was it was enough to afford those losses. It's like it's responsible. Yeah, I mean my unit size has gone up as, uh, as the years have gone by.

It's responsible. But what is a unit even? You don't have a real unit. I have a unit, but then I'm constantly going up or down. Yeah. But it stays around that, you know, spot. It's never, like, going crazy, crazy. So, yeah, and listen, I'm at the point now.

I had one, the only thing I can do seemingly well in gambling is I can spot value in futures. They don't usually win, but I bet Yukon 14 to 1 in December. So that's, I need Yukon to win the tournament and I'll be fine. And are you able to stay away from the weird stuff like live tennis? Because my problem was I'd get up with the kids at 6.30. I'd be solo for a few hours. and I just needed some sort of dopamine hit. My big issue is, yes, I'm able to stay away from that.

My big issue is if someone gives me a tip, I have to take it. So as long as I stay away from people giving tips. Bad tips. Because I'm just like, especially when we're in the moment, we're in the cave, someone yells some out. It's like, oh, fuck it, I'll ride you with you. Like, that'll be fun. Because I'm a big believer in realistic gambling,

knowing that you're not going to win, but it's about the experience. And like when everyone's on one, you know, that organ crate. game we all the whole room had it yes and that was one of like i'll be thinking about that experience for the rest of my life it was that much fun in your live watch is if one guy's on the other side do you make him shut the fuck up like is there a rule that if you know you and dave have you know um five figures on a game that the guy with three figures can't talk no it's like dude you're

you know your little one hundred dollar parley we don't need you jump it up and down and cheering when when we're fucked. I think it's all relative. There's times when, yes, that will happen where it's like, dude, I need this win really bad.

It's more like desperation. Who needs it the most? But yeah, there are definitely times where I probably, I'm like, shut the fuck up. I'll just give you the hundred bucks,

which is wrong of me. Exactly. We've done that here. Dr. Fax has like $5 parleyes every Sunday. And it'll be the end of the 4 p.ms. And I have like my whole

savings on a side. And he's cheering for his parley. Yeah. Like in my ear, I'm like, I will pay you $57. Yeah. To shut the fuck up. That's like, that's like Jerry will be rooting so hard for a pick. And then it will hit and we'll all congratulate him. And he'll be like, all right, I just need Odell Beckham to score three touchdowns.

Kyle Ushack to score and Patrick Holmes to throw 500 yards to finish the parlay. I'm like, what the fuck, dude? I was just rooting for you. Exactly. This is pointless. All right. Let's talk about something else pointless. UVA getting in the tournament.

Okay. All right. You're hurting my feelings, Dan, and you media types. Just let me get this out. Okay. It'll be quick. The last 10 years, only two schools have better records than Virginia. Gonzagin, Kansas. In the ACC, over the last 10 years, Virginia has more conference wins than anybody.

Eight more than Duke, 16 more than UNC. Virginia has 13 NCAA tournament wins over the last 10 years. Only nine teams have more. There's no question that the system, I'm sorry, there's no question that the system requires. Can I just do a timeout, 20 second time out? 20 seconds. I mean, I just said I needed 60 seconds. But this is so stupid because all you have to say is you want a national championship.

You literally can put your nuts on the table and just be like. That's the Trump car. I want that. Dude, if someone tweeted they're like, would you take Virginia's last eight years where they got bounced? You guys got bounced like seven out of eight years, lost to a 16 seed for the one title. I would take that every fucking day and twice on Sunday. That's all you have to say, Makin. You have everyone beat.

You don't know that. You don't know that because we've gone through this period where all of a sudden it's just like when we used to get in the tournament, it was exciting. And now it's like we still have the UMBC shadow. No, you flagged fly forever. Steels our joy. Flats fly forever. I just, I can, it's easy to defend UVA and the aggregate while also agreeing that this year was, not so defensible.

No. So that's why I want to remind people that we have won six out of 11 ACC regular seasons. There are a lot of casuals who see the results in March and they hurt our feelings. And I want to say, hey, man, I met John Paul Jones Arena 15 times a year. I'm with my friends there. There are four other white guys with combovers and cuisips and they all have Pilsners in their hands. And damn it, we have fun there and win all the games that we watch.

There may be a March problem, especially when the gyms and the Joe's. don't quite match the X's and O's. Makin, you don't have to defend yourself at all. You won a national title. Here's the ring, Dan. Exactly. You would rather be us than Wisconsin. In a heartbeat.

I will never see a national title. In 2015, Wisconsin was up by nine points at halftime in the national title game against Duke. They lost that game, and immediately after that game, I said, on record, I will never be back in this moment. That was as close as I'll ever get. You could lose in the first round for the next 20 years, and you still have a national title. You don't, like, Virginia's going to get, people are going to get their jokes off against Virginia.

It doesn't matter. You guys get to put your head on your pillow every night and be like, remember that year, we won the whole damn thing? There's nothing, nothing anyone can say to you. Bravo, Dan. It's a truth. Let's start, let's start in the West then. Okay. Because then we can talk about the.

ACC because, you know, we've still got Clemson in, UNC in as well in the West, all five teams, all four teams that got into the tournament. ACC's eight and one. And I want credit for that one. I want credit for that one. We made the tournament. Well, that didn't really. That was the plan.

You guys weren't really in the tournament. No, we were fully in the tournament. Still be a banner. That was a test. You could have just said that you won a title right back to me. Do you guys look at this thing and say, hey, the ACC got job like the committee. should definitely take note of that. Or you like, hey, it is what it is.

Like some teams are going to play above themselves in March. I don't think the committee, like, the only conference that I have a reasonable, like has a reasonable gripe is the big, or big east. Because they are 6 and O and they had those three teams that are on the bubble that, you know, Seton Hall, Dan Hurley said it perfectly. Yeah, St. John, Seton Hall said, Dan Hurley said it perfectly. He's like, we are now on an eight-game winning streak in the NCAA tournament where we've won every game by double digits.

There's one team that is beating the fuck out of us in the last year and a half, and it was Seton Hall. They beat us by 15. How did they not get into the tournament? That happened in January. So who in the ACC had a legitimate like Pittsburgh, maybe? Pittsburgh and Wake. But Wake lost to Georgia Tech at home.

Like, I watched that game. So I don't even think, like I think the ACC, the top of the ACC is always going to be good. But I think the Big East has more of a gripe just because they had more. of those teams that were right on the cusp and played some really good teams really, really well. And that Creighton Marquette, Yukon Trio is probably, you know, the top, like any conference, that's the best. If you said, give us your best three, that's the best three, right? I don't think we should play the results. I mean, those three teams are top three seats. They should be six and no. And it's, yeah, it's great that Clemson and NC State are winning games,

but I think you throw any of those teams in, oh, Pittsburgh, a seat and haul. They can make noise. You could make a sweet 16 right. Yeah. Yeah. But if you did that argument, Duke played a 14 seed, no, a 13 seed and a 12 seed. NC State got a great draw in playing Oakland in the second round. The UNC was a one seed.

Yeah, no question. And like Oakland, like for instance, Oakland, I guess they lost a right state by 21. They trailed Detroit Mercy, who was 1 in 31 by 7 in the second half at home. So, you know, if a team like that knocks down shots, they're dangerous, but that's a pretty, that's a pretty fortuitous set up for instance. No doubt about it. I think the ACC, the ACC can be summed up in that Clemson surprised us all. Clemson is good. That's really the thing.

That's where I was going to ask you was like, this is a big swing team when you look at like the way the ACC performed in postseason play this year. This was one team that you were like, everything has to go right for them. So I'll ask you, Makin, what is it about Clemson's running? so far that surprised you. I guess we should have known because New Mexico was just too public. I mean, they were. They were so public. I couldn't get that bet in on time.

They were the favorite in a 6-11. You ever like all over a side and then you're busy talking or looking at another line or like, you know, it's just the, and then you miss getting that bet in. That for me was New Mexico. I was going huge on New Mexico, didn't get it in on time. Yeah. I think opponents of UVA get to March and they think, okay, good. These guys have a lot of first round losses.

Like in the regular season, the ACC, they're like, oh, fuck, we got Virginia. This is going to be painful. You see Clemson on the other side. You're favored. You take them lightly. And Clemson does all the little things right. PJ Hall's really good. Yeah.

Shefflin or whatever the hell his name is really good. Chase Hunter's making shots. Joe Gerard. Jerard. Syracuse legend. It looks like a Southie. Yeah. Oh, I got in trouble for saying Syracuse legend, but I do think he's a Syracuse legend.

People were like, you know, he only played, you know, he, he, He didn't win anything at Syracuse. I'm like, but Syracuse legend to me is like white point guard that can't really guard anyone but can hit every three. Yeah, it's Carmelo Anthony, John Wallace and Joe Gerard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What was the other what was his, what was his, what was his, what was his name?

McNamara. Yeah, McNamara is the best. He's the white point guard from Syracuse. All right. So can, can, can Bamma hang with UNC? I mean, Kevin pointed this out. It's like, Bama, I don't know, kind of impressive they could win. they could win a low-scoring game, like a physical game, you know, against Grand Canyon.

It was supposed to be... That was the worst basketball game I have ever watched. Yeah. Easily. So Matt said it was one of the best basketball games. Oh, my God. It was awful. Stiles make fights.

You guys say you can't watch UVA. I mean, UVA is like anime porn. I know you're watching anime porn and I'm not judging you for it. Alabama Grand Canyon was just bad basketball. It was bad. It was... I didn't watch that game. To Chris's point, though, that was the first time I was like I might have to take Alabama for real.

Because I've watched a lot of Alabama basketball. They were terrible down the stretch. And more than anything, they were soft as fuck. Like Florida just ate them alive in the SEC tournament down low, getting offensive rebounds, layups, all that stuff. Grand Canyon, Alabama won that game because they had that, like, 90-second trip on their end where they got two offensive of rebounds off missed free throws. They ended up with five points when they were down three and took all the momentum back. And that was the first time I was like, oh shit, they're playing tough down low. And that was the best defense that Alabama's played in like two months.

I still would take UNC, but yeah, that was the first time where I was like, oh, maybe Alabama's not as soft as I thought they were. And like them to zag next week. If they just played that clunker, they probably Sears scores 35. They put up 100 and they do have a chance against Carolina. All right, let's talk about the other blue blood in the ACC. Let's move to the south because the question I have for you, gentlemen, is, is Duke tough? No. Because that's the theme coming off of that JMU bloodbath is like, that's all they heard about all week. You know, JMU is a tough team, this, that, and the third, and they came to play, and it was personal.

And I don't know, now people are talking about Duke being like they belong here as a, as a one. Or they're not a one. They're four. They're four. Well, and they haven't beaten anybody. People are talking about them like a one now. They haven't beaten anybody higher seated than them since the 90s. Yeah. So like, you know, is it fools gold? I

think they're going to be in for a very big problem against Houston, because if you want to talk about tough, that's the toughest team in the country. Exactly. They just beat you up. I thought the Duke J.M.U. Was two parts. One, JMU used a lot of energy beating the fuck out of my badgers,

and they just took the fight to him and Wisconsin looked like absolute pathetic losers. And then Duke just hit all their shots. Like they hit every single shot. They were knocking them down. They were 50% from three. Like, that's not going to happen again, especially against Houston.

I think that's a really bad matchup for Duke just because of like Houston. Houston will struggle in games like we saw on Sunday where Texas A&M went into that game and Buzz Williams had a brilliant game plan. He was like, all we're going to do is drive to the basket and get fouls. And they had the whole team fouled out. I don't think Duke is going to do that same thing where they're going to drive over and over.

So, yeah, I think I like Houston in that game. If you're looking at NC State and Marquette, I mean, this is for Shaka Smart, this is the first time they've gotten into the suite 16, I think, since that final four run. Yeah. So this was a big weight off his shoulders. But I haven't been that impressed with it. with Marquette and NC State like all this talk about them being burned out now they have a whole week you know and I don't know if that's good or bad for them but I mean you talk about a team that went

what you probably know better than me I mean they were sub 500 in the ACCC yeah but seven postseason victories in 12 days people are talking about NC state like a Cinderella and some people are saying you can't be a Cinderella you're an ACC team I think they can be a Cinderella I think We can talk about them as a Cinderella because they are from the ACC, and all we've done is downed everybody in the ACC but UNC and Duke this postseason. So I say they are a Cinderella, and I think they can beat Marquette. Yeah. I mean, the problem with Marquette is Tyler Colick is a cheat code when he's healthy.

He's got an oblique. Everyone, I saw someone pointed out, and it was perfect. Tyler Colick driving to the left and the move he does where he kind of pushes you a little bit, and extends his arm and hits it off the backboard is similar to the tush push, and there's no way to guard that play. Like, you can't guard that play. But I agree. NC State, like, why not?

Team of Destiny. They're just playing great ball. They're just beating everyone. And I do think it's like Marquette's a different beast, but it is kind of crazy the run they've been on. And their coach has made like $3 million in the past week and a half. He's got to be the only one who's made money in March Madness. He just keeps getting bonuses after bonus after bonus extension.

It's insane. By the way, the end of that Marquette game, Colorado didn't look like it knew what it was doing. What a great game. And it was great, I mean, because, you know, at the end of the game, I was like, if there's a way that they just get one shot off, we're going to cover here. I had Colorado, and I was catching five points, and the guy took five seconds to take a three down four. Yeah.

So, I mean, I love that end of game management from Colorado. Another thing I want to talk about in the South region is Kentucky. I mean, they're in the rear view mirror now, but 1985, 2019, 27 and 0 against 12 seeds or lower, 2021, 2004, 0 and 2. So this has become a thing, you know, where all of a sudden you're looking at these teams and you're looking at the head coach and saying, as he lost his touch, is this something that Kentucky can no longer be? And is that a result of the new landscape of college basketball or something? acutely affecting Kentucky. Everybody else can do what he was doing.

Well, it's like the Sabin thing. Yeah, he adjusted better than anyone to the one and done, and now he has to make a readjustment to the fact that with NIL, you have teams that have guys who are 25 years old, and you probably need to mix some of them in. I also think Cal's problem is he just stopped coaching the last few years. Right. And like, all right, talent beats, you know,

he says it himself, he's like, give me the talented guys every day, and he gets all the recruits, but they're never, like, they're not running great sets, they're not playing sound defense. I mean, I don't know how they got into that game and didn't know that Golki could just shoot the lights out. Like, it was insane. Like, he was the last person. The shot chart this year was insane. Insane. And he was the last person in the world to find out that this guy's going to shoot no matter what.

So I honestly think it's like for Kentucky. it's just a situation of like they got a staff of recruiters, not a staff of coaches, and can Cal readjust to, you brought up Saban? Saban did it better than anyone, where Saban would just, like, you know, he won with defense and running the ball.

Then everyone went to spread. He went to spread. Then he went back to defense. Like, Cald hasn't made that second adjustment yet. Quick hitter coaches. If you're Kentucky, would you rather have John Calipari or Scott Drew? I think it did.

point, Scott Drew, but we had Matt Jones on from Kentucky Sports Radio on Thursday night after their loss, and he pointed out that, like, the Kentucky job is different than every other job and that you kind of need a rock star. And Scott Drew would definitely be on their short list, but who's that rock star they can get? Like, they can ask Jay Wright, he'll say no. They can ask Brad Stevens, he'll say no. And then where do you go from there? If you're Wisconsin, do you want Greg Gard or somebody else? I would like T.J. Otsleberger from Iowa State. He's from Wisconsin.

That was the reason why Friday night was so depressing for me was I think that was probably the end of like, it's been seven years since we ended the Sweet 16, which Wisconsin isn't like a premier program. We're not going to pretend like they are. But we did have a nice 20-year run where it was like every year or every third year we'd get to that second weekend. So if that's the standard, we're far, far missing the standard. I just want to hit on one more game, obviously, from the south. It was Houston and Texas A&M, which I thought was as good a game as any game I saw all weekend. You guys were watching Bama and Grand Canyon, but this was incredible, the 17-5-round-to-end regulation. The only buzzer-beater we had all weekend was the Garcia 3.

But I just wanted to say this. And I'm not like, you know, I am more of a casual when it comes to college basketball, But when I watch that game, I'm so impressed with Buzz Williams. Yeah. I mean, the guy can coach his ass off. Every double baseline inbound they had worked to perfection. They got the walk-on, shoot in the free throw late. He missed the front end, I think, of the one-on-one,

but then he hit the second one. That zoom-in shot of that poor walk-on from Houston, they were down to like their 12th guy, because everybody's fouled out, and his eyes are darting all over. the court. My favorite thing is to watch a guy get ready to take a free throw and try to handicap how ready he is. Yep. And, you know, I just think that's March Madness to a T. And you had the buzzer beater. You had the great play calls. You know, every, every decision that it seemed like Buzz made

worked out. And that Texas A&M team is fun to watch. I mean, I didn't watch them this year. It was fun to watch them. It was fun to watch his Marquette teams. As much I hate to say, the Virginia Tech run was respectable. So I just really like Buzz Williams. And I thought, Hugh in Houston surviving that spot. They can almost come out of that and say, hey, we've taken the best punch. I mean, it's hard to imagine a team getting hotter at the end of a game than that,

and it was a tough matchup for them. Yeah, no, it was a great game. You sound, though, I want to just, do you have one TV? No, I've got multiple TVs. I got multiple TVs, but the problem was last night. You sound like a one TV guy. You came across as a one TV guy there.

So I'm a multiple TV guy. The first two days I spend, like, totally ADHDed out, trying to focus on, you know, what I can, and you feel like you don't even watch the games. That's why I love Saturday and Sunday because it becomes more manageable. And so sometimes I will turn on one TV. Now, I've got another game on my phone. I actually, my wife and a lot of her teammates were back in town for like a lacrosse reunion, so I didn't have a lot of choice with the TV set up last night.

But I was on, I was on. What does that mean? That means it's one TV. That means you're a one TV guy making. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a one TV. TV guy. Like Bachelor in Paradise or what? No, it was like I had to hang out with them. Oh, got it. Because I hadn't been hanging out with them all weekend and they were watching Houston

and A&M. And so, you know, for me, Green Canyon and Bama was an afterthought. Plus, I didn't put any action on Grangin. Yeah. Bama minus seven and a half over here. Yeah. See, like for me, it was another situation where I missed the tip. Yeah. You know, I don't know. Did they cover or not? They did. Very lucky. So anyways, I might be a one TV guy at times guilty as charged. Let's move. to the let's move to the meanest that you can say about a person probably the worst thing that like you know how fans that your mentions are just like an opportunity to get pissed off at fans because they always have some stupid critique the critique your tv fan is the worst yeah you know like like buddy you don't think i have more TVs than you i'm just i happen to be watching it in one room that has three

TVs you know they're not it's not it's not it's not going to be ideal every time i share my game set up is yeah yeah okay right midwest Um, let's go Purdue because I'm just so impressed with this team, man, like you watch them last year. Uh, and they carry that, they carry that baggage from the year before. And a lot of people like to draw the, the UVA comparisons, but this team is better. Like, I'm sorry. I know that's going to offend you too, but. I don't know.

Very different. They're very, the biggest part of the two freshman guards are sophomore. They're sophomores. They're deeper at guard than they were last year. They're more experienced. but I just feel like the way they're dispatching of these teams looks a lot different than the way we did on our run. We were down 10 or 15 to Gardner Webb. 14, yeah.

In the first half, I mean, like Purdue looks like they're all business. And I feel like they're the second best team in the country. Ooh. Yeah. Who? I still would probably take Houston. But, yeah, no, Purdue's been incredible. And they're, you know, the Zach Edy discourse is very funny.

Everyone's got an opinion. I've watched him all, his entire college career, been frustrated with how good he is. He's got a lot better too. But yeah, Purdue, they're playing great ball. And I, you know, they'll need a bounce or two. But yeah, they're a tough, tough team. How does Zach Eadie sleep on the road? Huh.

You ever think about that? He's seven foot four, okay? I mean, he's not the only seven foot four guy ever. How do you sleep when you're on the road? Like you've got to figure these guys have standard hotels. I think you bend your legs. You think he bends his legs? I think he's sleeping diagonal.

Maybe he's putting two queens together. I'm 6'4 up high in the air, and I sleep in my daughter's bed all the time. Just bend the legs. So it's basically a Zach Edy situation. Wait, Megan, you're 6'4? Yeah, 6'4. You're shocked? Yeah, you got a short face.

Oh, really? I've always heard long face, but it is getting rounder. What do you mean I have a short face? Like, I just, I see you, and I'm like, that guy's like, Like, maybe it's just short energy, five, nine. All right. That's the best thing I've heard on this show from, I guess. No, but I think Zach Edy probably just sleeps like a horse standing up.

They just turn off the lights and they're like, all right, see you tomorrow, Zach. Do you think that Zach Eadie's just good because he's tall? No. Okay, I was just making sure. He's incredible. Because Painter had some choice words for anybody. I only saw that he did. I haven't heard the words.

The problem is there. he's better than just tall, but there are at least three to four times a game where he is just too tall. So that's where people get it from. Like there'll be a couple times a game where he will just not even jump and he'll grab the rebound and then again not jump and dunk the basketball and you're like he's too tall. See, I think the guy from Yukon's just the right tall. Yeah. Klingin?

I think he's just the right tall. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And then there's this guy, there's this guy from Colorado, DAC. who looks like he's 7-6, but he's only 6-11. You know what I'm talking about is that 180 pounds, the big center for Colorado? Yeah.

So, I mean, like, yeah, you can be too tall. There's all types of different tall, body types, and I think Eadie sometimes does fumble around like he's too tall. But I think he's incredibly skilled. If he gets a ball with his back to the basket, it's like over. Yeah, because he's called foul every time. Yeah, well. It's like DJ Burns.

Somebody wants a big 10 basketball. People want fouls called on DJ Burns. Yeah. ignore the fact that he has probably the best touch in the entire tournament. He really does, man. His hands are so soft. But DJ Burns does every now and then. It makes me laugh.

It's like almost his brain short circuits and he just starts playing football for a second. Yeah. Where he'll like just throw a shoulder into someone and you're just like, wait, that's not a basketball move. That's not legal. Well, he's built like he's 6-6-2-80, but he's actually 6-9. Yeah. You know, 300. Yeah, he's about 300.

So I think, I think if you look at the Midwest, I think the matchup that everybody's waiting to see is Purdue and Tennessee. Did you guys catch, you know, we got Rick Barnes advanced at Texas, hasn't it, Tennessee. Did you guys notice when they needed to make a free throw? Texas was fouling to get into the bonus. And the seventh foul, they fouled Adu, who's not a good free throw shooter. Right. And he just happened to make the front and back end of the one-in-one.

And I think Rick Barnes got off very easy with not. not getting the ball in the hands of connector, anyone else. Yeah. Well, there's a, there was another in the Midwest. I've been looking at Oregon and Creight. And the reason Oregon lost that game was the freshman guard throwing the ball into Dante. Well, and the end of the game. I mean, like, if they just have a better inbound play, you know, it's, and that's what it comes

down to all the time. Yeah. Who's got the ball in their hands when it's time to foul? Also, we should mention Mark Few, like, it's insane. Those stats. I don't know if you guys saw him. he has won a first round game 15 straight years He's been to the tournament 24 straight years

His entire career at Cagga He's won a first round game 15 straight years He's gone to the sweet 16 nine straight years That's ridiculous Like winning a tournament game is hard to do He has won at least two tournament games For nine straight seasons That's stupid

So he's he's one of those guys It feels like he always gets the best out of his team And they overachieve Not underachieve in March surely he has a national title he does not but he does have a DUI yeah

and his dogs were just way too yeah those dogs like his dogs were just so when that dog popped out two of them it's like what the fuck are you doing man put the dogs in the back the last one I want to ask you about in the Midwest is

well I wanted to ask you first can Tennessee beat Purdue I mean I know they can but how do you see that match up? Yes I do. think they can because they just survived their worst shooting game they've had in a very long time and I am a big believer not every tournament run is going to be like Yukon last year where they just wasted everyone you're going to have to survive at least a couple games where you have like

a B minus C plus from your team and that's what they did against Texas so I I think that was like that game against Texas was a classic Rick Barnes loses that game and everyone says oh Rick Barnes and March. Surviving that gives them almost new life. Isn't it crazy when you consider the fact that Cuisnard and Dante scored all their points in the second half that Oregon was able to go to O.T. with these guys. I mean, like eventually Creighton pulled away in the second O.T. I think they scored like 15 in a row. And you knew it was going to be, you know it was the dagger when Kalkbrenner hit a three. Right. It was like when the big man is like, yeah, fuck it, I'll take a three.

and they hit on their first two possessions. But I think Creighton really impressed me with how they sustained that run from Oregon because Oregon was on, Cuisinard was on fire, dude, at the end of that game. Yeah, and they're another team. Like, they shot, they're not going to shoot that bad again. They miss so many open shots. And Oregon just ran out of gas. They were playing two on five.

I mean, you saw it. They were literally walking. There was multiple times in that game. They were tired. Where I thought they were calling a time out because that's how slow they were walking it up to court. Yeah. And yeah, they just ran out of gas. And I think that, yeah, Creighton is kind of similar to Tennessee

and that you're not going to have another day where they shoot as poorly as they do from three. All right, let's talk about the East because I came out of that Yukon game. I watched that run at the end of the first half against Northwestern. And I was just like, I just remember FAU when they played Northwestern, that coach who now got the Michigan job. How do you feel about that, by the way? Good hire.

He's a good coach. Yeah, he's a good coach. Will Wade's probably going to Louisville. I think that's way scarier. Well, Dusty May comes out of a timeout, and he's getting interviewed by, you know, whoever was on the sideline, and he's like, I did not realize how physical this group was. Like, this defense is... Oh, you're an apology.

Yeah, exactly. I wasn't familiar with the game. And then, you know, Yukon just dominates this group in the most physical way. I mean, the points in the paint, they were hitting shots. I love the big man. I feel like I agree with everybody. They're the best in the tournament. I mean, it's like if you had to pick a favorite right now, it's Yukon for me. I don't know who can beat him. Illinois. Illinois. I mean, that's the one answer in their bracket. And Brad Underwood talking about making changes over the past couple years in his philosophy, because that's a guy that wasn't out of the first weekend for a long time. I mean, like, that surprised me. And he said, like, the Kofi run, you know, we started building things a little bit differently. We want to bigger wings and that sort of thing.

And I wonder if the bigger wings is going to be the key to posing a chance against Yukon. Booty ball. They're playing booty ball with Damascus. Yeah. Yeah. Villanova. Everyone watched Villanova do it where they just have one of their guys just back down an undersized guy and there's nothing they can do about it. But Terrence Shannon has been on a tear, an absolute tear.

He's averaging 30 and a half points in the last six games. The only problem with Illinois is that they don't play a ton of defense. So, and I think Yukon, the scary thing about Yukon is they can just, they can do whatever style you want to do. Like if you want to run, they can run. Oh, they ran. They were killing them in transition early in that game. Exactly. If you want to slow it down and play defense, they'll do that.

Like, they have an answer for seemingly every single problem. But yeah, I agree that like in the tournament, if you have two guys who, can get a bucket at any time and Illinois has that, they are immediately as scary as scary could be for a one-game knockout situation. I think it's a good time to talk about the Big East again. I found out that Hurley is part of a group chat in the Big East where they lift each other up and lament the treatment of the conference and all the head coaches in the conference are firing away on this group chat all the time. Who do you want to see in a Big East group chat the most? Patino. Petino? Petino.

That's an easy answer for Dan. Yeah. How was having Patino on the show? It was good. It was nerve-wracking. We said a lot of things. I have a stalker who has stalked me about the things I've said about Rick Petino. So it was a big moment.

It was a very big moment. But yeah, Patino probably, I mean, our producer, Max, Philly guy, Villanova fan. We like Max. He, yeah. He had a very funny line last week where he called the Big East getting only three teams in anti-Italian discrimination. him or like, what are you talking about? And he's like, the Big East, he's an Italian league. And we're like, you know what?

You're actually kind of right. Like, it is an Italian league. So I would like to see Petino, maybe Calapari, get to a Big East team. That would kind of add to it. So that would be a fun group. I love Dan Hurley. The fact that he found a way to motivate his team on tip time is so perfectly psycho Dan Hurley.

I don't know if you guys saw this clip. No. But they told him after they went to the Clint's Sweet 16. They're like, yeah, so you're going to be tipping off first in Boston on Thursday. You're the first game in the Sweet 16. He's like, oh, okay, the disrespect continues. Like, we have to tip off first, I guess. That's what he's going to find.

It's crazy. Well, he does seem like a psycho in the best way. I'm going to give a worse car ride out to the big man from Northwestern Nicholson, who's 7 foot 280. He drove 12 hours with his mom to Chicago to watch. to watch the game in a boot and then obviously had to drive 12 hours back after that. And one more thing about Northwestern,

I want Chris Collins, like when I die, I want Chris Collins to send me out. Like I want him to come to my deathbed and whisper whatever he whispered in boo booie's ear and whoever. He was so kind to those players at the end of that game. You could really tell Chris Collins

and those players are connected. I would love for Chris Collins to send me off into the afterlife. Do you know Boo Booie's government name? No. Dan. He's Dan Bowie. No way.

That's not as cool. Yeah. Sorry. Why'd you do that? Okay. And the Big Ten, just one more thing about the Big Ten. This is from Tate Fraser. Last three years, 23 bids, four times the Sweet 16.

So not a very good record for the Big Ten as of late. And for Tom Izzo, he says he's going to go on a deep run or die trying. What do you think is going to happen first? I don't know. they looked pretty good in those first. They sure did. They sure in the first game. It's in there.

It's in there. He's got the secret sauce. The Big Ten has a, Illinois has figured it out. The Big Ten has an issue where it's similar to football and Michigan finally figured it out where like we build teams to beat each other in regular season and then we get to the tournament. And it's like, oh, not every team needs like a lumbering seven footer. Like maybe you should just get a bunch of wings and play that style of basketball. So the Big Ten has an issue.

we're going to sort some things out. We're going to add some teams from out west, increase our chances. That'll be nice. So that's all the regions. Yeah, we hit vibes. We hit vibes. We have vibes draft,

2000 and 24. Have you done all vibes draft with us, Dan? I have not. I don't think. I think he understands the assignment. It's pretty awesome. Who gets the first pick number between he gets the first pick? I don't want to.

Why does he get the first pick? I think we need to randomize. Oh, you randomized it? Okay, pick your first pick then. That's a lot of pressure. Well, I think all my people are kind of going to last. Oh,

I'm going to go. Yeah. Yeah. I got a great big board. Ah, but I really want him. Fuck it. Chalk,

1-1. DJ. Fuck you. Oh, that's not. He's been on my vibes. Yeah. He's been on my vibes team.

Yeah. DJ Burns. Need I explain it? I need I need not. Let's go to the second overall pick. It's, uh, Chris.

Sorry, Dan. God damn it. I'll go, uh, I'll go, I'll go Audi crooks. look her up

go ahead look her up yeah look her up you said a her I do know I understand this those barstool guys a woman

Audi crooks has been getting buckets man and she's the one who fouled cam brink out last night from Stanford so she's a big number 55

from Iowa State um oh yeah I do know her she's awesome yeah she is awesome how could you argue with that first pick. I'm confused at the vibes

draft. Don't, no, you just roll with it. Okay, all right, great, because I have my 1-1 and I cannot believe no one picked him. Jack Golky was the vibes this weekend. It's a good pick. He was the vibes. He was built in a lab for

March Madness. He looks like he's 30 years old. He looks like he already works at Enterprise or Deloitte. He He looked. He played Division 2 for four years. Then when one year at Oakland, hit every big shot, hit 10 threes against Kentucky. Like, the best way to describe it is the March Madness story is Jack Golky had no reason to beat a team of all pros in Kentucky.

And all those pros of Kentucky are going to go on to be insanely rich and make millions upon millions of dollars. But Jack Golky can always say, I had them one day. I beat them one day. Like he'll tell that story for the rest of his life. that's a March Madness hero right there. That's what March Madness is about. And he might be an NIL star. You saw what did he get the, was it rocket mortgage or something?

They just shot, it was tax, turbo tax. Instantly. Terrible, terrible ad. I mean, it's shot on an iPhone in a hotel ballroom. So we had him on the show. We had it on PMT today. He was great. He told the story.

He explained it because we're like, dude, like that was crazy how fast you had an NIL deal. He said he had two, he has two friends who, He just set up an email. His friends were like, we got to capitalize. And he's like, fine, you guys do it. So he has two friends who just went through all his NIL deal offers and just picked a couple and was like, all right, film this. And he's like, whatever.

And so that's how he made his NIL money. Friends managing your business and sports is not going well lately. So I don't know. The guy had a little Howie Long to him. Yeah. And then Kyle Brandt as well, Kyle was like he looks like me. But he kind of looks like Howley Long. Are we in a snake?

Snake style, Dan, you're up again. Oh, great. Great. I got another great pick. I bet you do. I'll go with Elvin. Okay. Elvin was all vibes.

That was another one where it was like the most March Madness story ever. Houston is collapsing in overtime. The guy who comes in Elvin, his name's Elvin. White dude hasn't sweat in a hundred years and he has to take the two biggest free throws of his life. I think he played like a hundred minutes all. season all in probably blowouts. He was up late jacking off and all types of stuff the night before, not even thinking about playing.

Yeah, Kelvin, Kelvin Sims was like, Elvin, you're in. He's like, what? Are you fucking serious, dude? I got to put my uniform on, dude. Elvin, okay, that's a good pick. Yeah. You're out.

Oh, I'm up. Oh, I'm up. Now I want a guy. Robbie Avila from Indiana State of the NIT. We're going, NIT. His nickname is Cream Abdul-Jabbar. He's also known as Larry Nerd, college Yokic, and Milk Chamberlain. Okay, just pull up a picture of this guy's vibes are impeccable.

He should have been in the NCAA tournament. Sorry, I'm half of Virginia for winning so many fucking games this season and keeping him out. Also, he could have been in the NCAA tournament if they beat Drake. That's right. Yeah, who chokes. That's right. Chokes. Do you ever do a dream chase, Dan?

I call it a dream chase where you're chasing, but you don't want to stay up late and you just bet a game and go to sleep. Oh, yeah. Wake up, yeah. I did one of those with Drake. Yeah. Double down with the live. It was bad.

Bad. Turns out they do choke. They choke. Sixth pick is Kese Tomi Naga. Yeah. Good pick. This guy went from talking shit in a guy's face to crying. To crying.

To crying within about 15 minutes. Maybe the bears will draft him. Was that a shot at Caleb Williams? No, it's a shot at all of you. Okay. We think you're getting Patrick Mahomes. I love that guy. We are.

Oh, yeah. Clip this. Can someone whoever's working behind? Every other day. Can someone clip this and just send it to me for my personal files? Yeah. Uh-huh. I'm a jerk off to that later.

Okay. To the Nebraska guard? No, to you saying Caleb Williams is sucks. Toadog is the best, though. I watched him all year. He just, he's a flamethrower. The first 10 minutes of that game, he hit every three. And then, yeah, he just completely self-busted.

If you're an Asian guy that gets the top of American sports, you're definitely going to be cool as fuck. Yes. Like the kicker in Atlanta, like the guy from Nebraska, like. Like Show-Hae and his gambling problem. Yeah, that's cool of shit. It's a good week. All right.

For Asians. Seventh pick. is easy for me. It's Kim Mulkey. I would leave my family for Kim Mulkey. She is a gorgeous woman with passion. Now this is all pending the Washington Post story. I don't know what's going to be included in there, but just a real, real chesty firecracker of a woman, you know? All vibes. Yeah. All of them. Kim Mulkey has them. Yeah. Do you want to tell people what I asked you what you had for today what you said oh top 10 sex things to do with kim mulkey oh nice yeah i said i could go to 25 if the guys wanted to but then they were crickets okay am i up next uh yeah yeah you are oh i am

okay uh give me i've got my top three so far give me set towns he's an eighth year senior uh for howard nobody worked the system like set pounds dude eight years of college incredible he started pin state or somebody else. I don't know where he started, but he ended up with the bison, and that was about as bad a team as I saw play this past weekend. Yeah. I mean, they were awful. They were really bad. I started to wonder, Dan, not to accuse Howard of throwing games, but I feel like there is, in the past, I've always laughed off these gambling conspiracy theorists who are like everything's a throw, you know, and it's usually the guys from the northeast, like the Italian guys, I'm sure Jersey Jerry, is constantly saying that like, oh, did you see what he did there?

Like they definitely have the under when that's not the case at all. But I think now in the tournament, you look at teams from these smaller conferences and you got fifth year seniors, they know they're going to lose. Like there is a chance when you turn on your TV now that somebody has, somebody's on the take. It's just what I think. I don't know about you, Dan. Yeah.

Yeah, you can let the conspiracy, especially because you have four days of basketball and you watch all this basketball. you don't sleep and then your mind just goes crazy. But yeah, you nailed Jerry perfectly. He thinks he thinks the Italian guys. Well, he thinks COVID started turbulence. There wasn't turbulence before COVID. So yeah, you nailed that.

Yeah. Okay. I got the next two. You do. All right. I will go with, I'll go with Jamal Sheed from Houston. Shed, yes. Sheed, Shed, Shed.

That jump, that hop step that he made, to score the big bucket against Texas A&M where he started probably 15 feet out of Oh, it was incredible. Yeah, out of the pain. And the dunk. Insane. Like, five minutes before that. Yes, the dunk, yes.

Like insane. That guy has just insane hops. And he put the team on his back in overtime when everyone filed out. So he's awesome. And then my other one is going to be, oh, I'll pick the, um, since we're really just going vibes. I'll pick the fucking big shoulder Yale guy who was sitting front row who was in every shot that guy never no one's ever been more yale than that guy you know who i'm talking about

he had he had making nose because i was a one i was in a one tv thing yeah you were i know you were because i had yale and i just looked at the scars and fuck this yeah he he just has like the broadest shoulders ever a big why sweatshirt or sweater and just walks around just exuding yale everywhere he goes to everyone probably like a world-class rower um He's just chin up. Chin up. Great posture. Oh, dude.

Pull up a picture making for him. You'll see it. You know that was a good pick. Okay. All right. Is it me? It is you. Oh, fuck.

I guess I got to pick a good player at some point. No, Audie Crooks can ball. So I'm going to go Jeffrey Yan from Long Beach State. Big Asian. You like the small Asians? That is the most Yale guy ever, dude. He was fun.

Look at that. Is that a cable knit? What are we calling that? Yeah. I mean, that sweater is awful. Awful. I want to turn it around to Dan, but I don't know what's on my tabs. Okay, so do you remember Jeffrey Yang early in the weekend? Show it to Chris.

Big number 40? I did. Yeah, I've seen it. But you guys, you guys might be one TV guys. You don't catch Long Beach State games. I am going to have to look up Jeffrey Yang. Jeffrey Yan. Yeah.

6-9-260. Big Asian. Oh, yeah. Nobody like him. I love Long Beach State. Next pick, Bill Raftery. He's only getting better. Yeah.

I think for my money, best color analysts in sports. He's always a little bit drunk. He's in the know. What more can you want from an analyst? Had dinner with Bill Murray two nights ago. Did he? Yeah, he's cool guy. Yeah.

Yeah. Bill Murray's kid is coaching Yukon. No way. Yeah, he's assistant coach. I didn't know that. How deep are we? going here we're still going five five five so i only have one more one more three four wow oh my god um um um a j stores out there in five of 14 several turnovers not going to go there now if i had known

we don't get a six man i mean i've got a couple people here i would have i mean you've made some really interesting picks you couldn't have fit them only if you don't know how to draft anywhere okay i'm going to make a pick and it's going to be grant nelson in Alabama. The guy has got a bowl cut with a mustache. Yep. Could not be more Caucasian. Yep.

I like how he leans into it. He should play for Virginia. Yeah. No, he's way too ready to play for Virginia. We don't have guys with mustaches. We're like the, we think we're the Yankees. Also, he can shoot. So that's Yankees.

That takes out Virginia. He can shoot. Yeah. He'd have played our national title team. Yeah. Okay. Is it me? Yes.

Fucking A, dude. I'll do Kuznard. Okay, good pick. The Oregon guy. I like him. I like him a lot. And if I have one more pick, just wait. You don't.

You don't. You actually don't have one more pick. Oh, fuck you guys. You're one TV guy with no more picks. I don't do drafts. My last pick will be Dan Munson from Long Beach State, one of the best stories in March Madness. The fact that he got fired before the conference tournament. Yes.

Decided to keep coaching the team. got them to the tournament and he was like he had the best I watched some clips he just had the best attitude about it like he said the day that he got fired

he went he got fired they announced he was fired they announced he was sticking around for the week in the conference tournament he went right into film film study with his team and was like see this clothes out right here

this is what gets coaches fired and it was just like shit like that so I just I love that guy that guy's awesome and then he was like hey I don't really have to be here. Right. I'm not even technically. Yeah.

Dan, do you know Long Beach State's nickname? No. Beach. Oh, yeah. That's awesome. Their Long Beach State Beach, which is unbeatable. Did you guys know that Grand Canyon is actually the fifth closest school in Arizona to the Grand Canyon? Did you know that Charles Barkley has never been to the Grand Canyon?

And when they asked him, by the way, I love the fact they put Chuck on these. We were talking about this earlier. I don't think he's watching a lot of college basketball, but he's just so fucking entertaining. But they were like, Chuck, have you ever been to the Grand Canyon? He said, no. And he said, they told me it's a big hole there. Are we doing, are we doing Digino's right now? Because I have an all-time, did you know? You hit me. Please. Did you know that Matthew Broderick killed a person? Yes. Okay. Yes. Yeah, pretty crazy. Did you know that Clyde Edwards-Hillair killed a person? That was actually the coolest of killing a person because it was right. He was right. He got proved right.

Who did Matthew Broderick kill? And how embarrassed is that guy? In England because he was driving on the wrong side of the road. Oh, I did hear this. Early in his career. Yeah. Just so crazy, did you know? Yeah, that's a crazy, did you know?

Yeah, I dropped that on people. It's kind of a bummer. Yeah. But also, it gets a reaction. We can handle it. Yeah. As sports fans, we've cheered a bunch of murderers on. Okay, so we've got, so we've got this coach.

picture that we want to talk about. By the way, great blog. Thank you. Glad to see the pen is still working. Yeah, 4 a.m. Well, you're capitalizing a lot of weird words. Are you aware of this?

Did you hear me saying I was staying up until 4 a.m. after four days of March Madness? I don't write. I write how, I'm like Dr. Seuss. I'll do whatever the fuck I want. Artistic, artistic license. You've inspired me to start blogging, so look for a blog.

In the second sentence alone, the word spring is capitalized. Who cares? Coaches is capitalized. I do whatever I want. Son is kind of just, you know, a little bit of dumb guy energy, Dan. He does whatever he wants like Dave Canales. He does whatever he wants like Dave Canales. Yeah.

Who rocks shorts and a hot guy. And a hot guy. And also wrote a cuck book. He did write a book. Wait, is it a cuck book? When you have to write a book being like, here's why I cheated on my wife and I'm better about it. So I'm calling that a cuck. That seems like a cuck book.

I don't think you want to, I don't think any guy was like, hey, let me write this book about how I cheated on you. Man, if he ever told me to like get in the C-Gap, I'd be like, you masturbate a lot. Yeah, dude. Remember when you told the whole world that you cheated on your wife with a book? Yeah, dude. Okay, so he's in the front row. And by the way, we don't have a problem with any of these people.

But Canales, that's a bold move to rock the shorts. Also, one thing I want to point out was like, I think there's something to be said for how these guys are clasping their hands. I want to do a study on that. Some of them go full interlock. Some of them go like, kind of like they grip the sides of their hands. And then there's Jim Harbaugh, who doesn't know what the fuck he wants to do with his hands. No.

I think that perfectly encapsulates him. He couldn't be any more uncomfortable than he is in this picture. Yeah, he's perfect. The Harbaugh brothers just back together. I love it. Dennis Allen. This is my favorite picture every year. It's just incredible.

It's just like they get all these dudes who are just the most alpha dudes in the world staring into the sun. looking awkward as fuck. Gerard Mayo, I mean, that's your boy, Chris. Yeah. What happened there? That's my favorite descriptor. I don't know.

What are he said? The guy whose mom forgot it was picture day and dressed him like it was normal Monday award. Well, he is a player, you know, and the players like to rock the dry fit. Now, at least Dan Campbell threw on a collar, and he looks tremendous, dude. I like the way you put it, fuck or fight. Yeah, he's a fuck or fight guy. He's like, every night you go out and it's just like, I'm either going to fuck a chick a chick or I'm going to fight someone and bash their skull.

Can I tell you a rumor I heard about Dan Campbell that I tried to tell Lee McNeil the other day, but I don't think he understood. It was that Dan Campbell when he went to Las Vegas as a player. And we're not sure if he's still doing this or not. Take a guess where he likes to stay. I don't know. You got to give it to me. I love Dan Campbell so much.

It's caliber. Oh, that's perfect. I was to say New York, New York. He stays in a castle. I love it. I love it. He's on an NFL budget. and he was staying at the Excalibur. There's nobody better than Dan Campbell.

The one guy you brought up, which I thought needed to be talked about, was Dennis Allen's fit. Yeah. What did you refer to him as? I said he was a Serbian arms dealer or a guy who's way too into F1. I don't know what he was doing with the logoless black hat and the logoless top of a jumpsuit. But he might just be in witness protection where he just wanted to show up and be like, hopefully no one realizes that the Saints didn't fire me. I'm still coaching.

Yeah. In the pictures I've seen, he had a pretty good head of hair, so I don't know what's up with him being the only guy with a hat. And then lastly, I thought you were a little hard on Kevin O'Connell. I think the guy looks like an absolute alpha. You think he looks like a surprisingly adept athlete. Yeah, I just don't. I think the Dwight Shrewd short-sleeve shirt just never works.

The button-down short-sleeve shirt. I think it just always is a weirdo move. Who's the hottest coach here, Macon? Dave Canales. Demico Ryan. Who's the second hottest coach? Probably McVeigh or LaFleur. Look at how LaFleur, here just what I want to say about LaFleur, though.

And obviously LaFleur's been hitting the weights, but he definitely pulled his sleeves up to expose his biceps. He did the armpit trap thing. And McVeigh's doing a little bit, but McVeigh doesn't have to do it. He's got guns. Okay. I got it. Canales one, Stefansky 2, Domeco Ryan's 3.

I don't think you can put Canales. one he'll cheat on you making well no Dave canales is so hot that he he couldn't he couldn't tame himself yeah he's not even cheating because it's just people are throwing themselves at him is John Gannon hot or is he just weird looking serious I don't know no you're the one who knows if guys are hot not hot okay and I would say I do this every year I sometimes because like it's weird because I've gotten I started this 11 years ago when I didn't know any of these guys now I know a bunch of them so I always am like how hard can I go but if you read the blog. I think I do a good job towing the line. The meanest thing I do every single year is

just being like, oh yeah, that's Zach Taylor. Because every year I see the picture and I'm like, oh yeah, that is Zach Taylor. Yeah. I never know his face. And who's in who the fuck is that guy? For the first time, I could not. I didn't come up with Calahan. Yeah, Callahan just looks like he was super. I haven't rolled sleeves up above the elbows since we were in like middle school. Yeah. And that was a cool look. Uh-huh. Where's Kyle Shanahan in relation? to Dan Quinn pretty far away pretty far away

Kyle Shanahan looks like that meme the soldier with the helicopters and explosions behind him that's what his face is right now he's like I just can't keep losing Super Bowls Hey where's Nick Siriani Not there not picture Not pictured Matt Iberfluse

Tomlin Siriani I think Siriani McCarthy Siriani probably can't go Because Big Dom might still be suspended My Big Tom's suspended He can't leave the house Big Don texted me Chris

Did he? One of the greatest texts I've ever got. He likes you guys. Yeah, he's like, thank you guys for the support, like, my fellow Paizans. I'm not Italian at all. I have Italian children, so I live with Italians. But Max was like over the moon. He was just like, send me that screenshot.

He texted me to ask about you guys. He's like, I like, I like those guys. You know, they've been talking positively about me. I'm like, yeah, well, they're good people. We said like the, like, there's nothing that has to be done. Like, big, build the whole plane out. of the black box. We're like build the Eagles out of Dom. Just make, just make Dom everything. Dom's incredible. Before we go, I want to ask you about, I want to ask you about two things.

I want to ask you first about a football topic, and that's Caleb Williams. What is your excitement level? Do you, and if you are excited, do you realize that you're just convincing yourself of something? Wrong. I'm 100 out of 100. He's going to be the best Bears quarterback ever. Low bar. He's going to win a Super Bowl. He's going to be awesome. I'm so excited. He's going to be awesome.

And idiots like you who don't know ball are going to look. You're going to have to call me up one day and be like, hey, remember that time? I said Caleb Williams sucked. I'm like, wait, is this? Who is this? I didn't say he sucks. I'm like, that's the thing, though. I never said he sucked.

If this gets clipped, I never said he sucked. I'd be like, who is this? This is one TV Chris I'm talking to? I'm like, yeah, I remember that time. And I'll say, and you know what? I will be fair to all the doubters. I'll be like, don't worry about it. It's no sweat off my back that you couldn't see what I saw.

It's not that you guys think it's going to go well. It's why you guys think it's going to go well. Because he's awesome and the bears have set up for the first time in franchise history. They've actually set up a quarterback to succeed. Can we put in a place like an actual, I don't know, a marker for, you know, what going well looks like this year? I'll take over two and a half Super Bowls. This year. Yes.

Okay. Yeah. I mean, I understand the thirst for like Patrick Mahomes, but you know it's not, it's not likely that you're going to find a Patrick Mahomes. You never know. No one thought he was Patrick Mahomes before he's patch from Holmes. You're right about that, including like most of the teams in the league, yet every team in the league thinks Caleb Williams is Patrick Mahomes. And we're generally not good at this. That's my only thing.

That's my only thing. And another thing is they were unfair to Justin Fields. If Justin Fields had this cupboard, you know, the thing that Caleb Williams is walking into, maybe we're not even having this conversation. Completely agree. The Bears failed Justin Fields every single way. Like they could not have failed him. According to RG3, Caleb Williams should not sign with the Bears.

RG3 is a fucking dummy. It's a total. I like him, but man, he was a dummy. It's a totally different situation. Okay. And then the last question is, where are we on Show Hey, Otani? when we taped Friday or Thursday, I was like, listen, this translator's the fall guy. Yes.

There's no way, number one. And this is one thing that got me, Dan, and I don't know where you land on this, but like if you're Shohei Otani and you're placing bets, what is the one sport you're not going to bet on? Baseball. Oh, I was going to say March Madness because you always lose. Yeah, right. But baseball, if you're Shohei.

Now, whoever was placing these bets never bet on baseball. And you're telling me that this translator was willing to fuck his friend over but was like worried about MLB rules. Like he's going to steal $4.5 million from his friend, but not bet baseball as to not ruffle the feathers of his employer. Like that just didn't make sense to me. And more information is coming out about the guy's alma mater, where he may or may not have gone to school.

Has anything changed for you since last week? No, I've always thought it was show hey betting. The only thing I'm hoping for is show, I think, has a press conference later today. He does. How much would it rock if he showed up and he spoke fluent English? Oh, my job. He had like a Jersey accent. Yeah.

Yeah. That would be the great. It'd be like Kaiser Soze. It would be just so incredible. We were saying as a punishment, this is the one time Americans can rightfully be like, you need to learn language because we can't trust your translators. Yeah. Yeah.

And it's great that, like, he... Assimulate. It's a perfect fall guy because now he doesn't have his translator, so now he can just every single interview be like, well, I got a new translator. I don't know. Yeah, this guy's better. Yeah.

I actually learned the language. Yeah. It's a great story, though. So he's still gambling, in your opinion, even if this guy's a total fraud. Yeah, he's gambling. That's fine. I have no problem.

He shouldn't I hear it. I got no problem with it either. Yeah. No problem. All right. Well, Dan, we appreciate the time. We hope you turn this thing around next weekend. win some money.

Yeah. And UVA is a better program than Wisconsin. That's a fact. Love coming on. Shout out, Chris, for being very, very smart and asking me to do this show two months ago. Because if he had asked me at any point in the last week, there was no chance I would have done it. But he asked me. He has a calendar.

He asked me so long ago that I was like, we will never see this day. Yeah, dude. And then this day came and I was like, oh, fuck, I haven't slept. but let's do it that's what happens man that's why i asked people months out you know yeah you literally asked me in february you're like hey march 25th can you do the show it's like what yeah that's called planning all these motherfuckers are in here like chris you don't plan enough and then i they booked the guests out for too much you know you plan the fuck out of this one yeah yeah good job appreciate you appreciate you sticking to the plant yes yeah all right well uh tell

those guys what's up and uh we hope to talk to you soon dan all right thanks guys love coming on um making sorry that you have short energy, but that's just a fact. I just a fucking back. Bye, Dan. All right, joining us now. We don't get a lot of college basketball coaches, but I think we found the right one. There's no run that I'm more into right now than NC State's running.

And of course, their head coach is Kevin Keyes. Coach Keith, how are you doing? Do you finally get a chance to catch a breather? Are you in the players after this run of seven postseason games in 12 days? You know, when you get this deep in March, you shouldn't expect any. any type of breather. Yeah. I'm operating on four hours of sleep.

That's a little bit below my average. And, you know, I'm excited. I mean, what a great march that we've had when you just think about the ACC and then into the NCAA. It's been a really wonderful ride for us. When you come out of that first round or when you're preparing for the first round, there's really no, like in football, there's nothing like March Madden. where, you know, you're going to have time to prep for your next opponent.

Do you guys have people working on Oakland and Kentucky? Do you have kind of scouting reports on everybody you could play in a weekend where you're going to have back-to-back games like that? How do you prepare for that next game without losing focus? So what happens is, you know, when you get on Selection Sunday, you find out who you're going to play. Everybody's just such an incredible day. And all of the coaches out to Selection Sunday,

that we all go back to the office. And we started working on, obviously, you know, Texas Tech. We're calling around people who played them. And then so one assistant coach will take that scout. And then what we do is we've got two other assistant coaches. One will start concentrating on Oakland. And then the other one will start concentrating on Kentucky. And that's kind of how you do it.

I couldn't go too long without asking about DJ Burns. He's been kind of the story on this run. And I think for me, he's got such a, unique build, he reminds me of a football player. And you watch him. And if you don't know his size and his height and weight, I'm thinking, that's a six foot six guy, six foot seven. But he's all of six nine. Is that accurate? And 300 pounds is. And what do you think that poses for people from a from a differentiating factor perspective? I mean, you don't see a lot of bigs like him. Well, he is six nine. And I think you're right. I can say this to you guys. I'm glad he's on my team.

You know, he is, you know, he's very light on his feet. He's got a great touch. And I don't know how much you guys have seen of lefty post guys. He's a lefty post guy that can really score, and he's a super passer. Now, he's become a really good passer over the last year. If you go back and look to his assistant turnover ratios from last year, was just okay. So we worked really hard to increase his passing because we knew he. he would get so much attention and draw so many double teams.

But, I mean, you're talking about the future mayor of Raleigh, North Carolina right now. I mean, he is, they love around here. You're talking about the future dancing with the Stars guy, you know, because of his light footwork. He's that type of dude now. Coach, I don't want to be in your business, but the ACC Tournament Championship got you $110,000 bonus, triggered a two-year extension and a $400,000 raise.

The question is, will you be sending a Christmas card to Tony Bennett for not fouling up three with under five seconds to go? No, listen, Tony has his own money. Have you seen that contract? Listen, Tony's a great coach now, and he's won a national championship. You ought to look at that contract when he won that national championship, but I will not be sending any money to Tony Bennett. He is going to be fine and he's a great coach.

So don't you start that upfowling and don't file and all that. Hey, we're just glad that Michael O'Connor just got that shot off and made it. That's what we're happy with. Well, congrats on the extension. I mean, that's got to be such a great way to earn it. You know, you walk off the court and you're like, oh, we did it. And you're going to be around. So, I mean, you get ready for the,

tournament, obviously you talk about prepping for Oakland, prepping for Kentucky, but obviously Oakland's got that prototypical difference maker outside the arc, the guy that's been knocking down a bunch of shots in Golky. I mean, this guy, you know, he's coming off of screens 100 miles an hour catching and drilling these shots, and I'm wondering how much goes into preparing for that one guy that can get hot, and how did you guys plan to defend him? Well, I mean, if you watched him, and I know America did, against Kentucky. I mean, he was just unbelievable. And that being said, he still ended up with six against us. We wanted to, you know, we know we couldn't stop him from taking shots because he takes deep shots.

He comes off stagger screens. He shoots away beyond the NBA line. But we wanted to make sure he didn't shoot as such a great percentage. I mean, the Kentucky game, you know, told you everything you need to know. He was 10 for 20. He shot 50% from three. And they were backbreakers. But what we had to warn our team against is it's crazy because Oakland's so good. He's that third leading score. You know, you look at their team. You know, we got a couple guys that were all conference, and he wasn't one of them, but a very good player who we respected. We did a great job on him, but not so much their four-man.

Trey kicked our butt. I mean, he had 30 points, and we had no answer. And, you know, it's an Oakland team that, you know, everybody's going to talk about, you know, Kentucky losing the first round. They're good. They were older. They were smarter. They know how to play.

They can make shots. They can score inside out. And I'm just happy that our guys locked in with one day prep. Well, actually, you know, one day in between prep and did a good job of defending the three-point line. And we got out of there with a good win. How much you talk about older, more experienced players? How much does hitting the portal help in that regard?

And, you know, we always hear everything changes in March. and who would know better than a coach who's coached in March. But on top of that, I feel like there have been changes in the landscape with NIL and with the transfer portal. And how has that impacted the style of play and just some of the factors in March, including experience? It's changed everything. You know, I'll start on the front end. And so, you know, for us, example, we got a few transfers. We lost 34 points in our two guards and Ticayvion Smith and Jock.

joiner and we had to go out in the portal and we had to find some guys Michael O'Connor, DJ Horn, guys that can come in and have our team. We had Casey Morselle and DJ Burns returning. But it takes a little time and that's the hardest thing for fans to understand. You know, the year before, we clicked a little bit quicker because we had the opportunity to go to Bahamas and, you know, take a foreign trip and had 10 practices and played two different games. But if you don't get that, it's going to take some time. And I know people said the non-conference and all of that. It took us a long time to get on the same page.

It took us a long time to guys to have a voice. And now you're kind of seeing it. And sometimes you run out of time. But chemistry is real. You have to, you know, in today's game, it's really, really hard to win with young guys right now. And we've got some talented young guys. But if you get any more than, you know, three freshmen playing, it's really tough.

And we try to be very picky. We had one freshman who was playing really good basketball for us, and he's going to be a really good player. But a lot of teams have older experienced guys. And when you see teams like Oakland who are mid-major, you're typically going to see some older guys, juniors and seniors and some of them are transfers. Coach Marquette's up next in the Sweet 16.

Have you talked to your guys at all about 1983? That was a sixth seed. Lorenzo Charles, Derek Whittenberg. they go on a magical run. Have you had any time to talk to your team about the big picture of all this? You know, I haven't because, man, you guys get this before they do. When I get off of this call, I'm going to practice. I haven't seen them today.

You know, we got back Saturday, late on Sunday morning, and I'm talking to you, and now I got some good tips from you guys. I can talk about 83 and all that stuff now. I got them in 30 minutes. And, no, we don't, you know, the great thing about our 74 and 83 championship is that we celebrated all year long. And so they know about it. You know, we've had both teams on campus this year. And we've been able to hang out with those guys.

And so it's not something that I have to bring up. It's something that we always talk about because it's part of our history. Well, DJ Burns, my last question is if he was going to play in the NFL, which position you think he's going to play? because some football guys like me, we're looking at DJ Burns and saying he might be able to double dip here. Yeah, I mean, somebody would probably say a defensive tackle. Yeah, I think he will think he'll think that he's a tight end. I mean, he would.

He wants the ball. Yeah, he wants to rock. You know, he wants to rock. He'll think if I ask him, he'll swear up and down. He's a tight end. And, you know, he would say he could catch. He can block. He can run.

I don't believe that. but he'll say that. Okay. Coach, when you're pissed off at the officials, you do my favorite thing of all the coaches, or after you've said your piece, you will just, you'll lean back on the scores table, cross your arms, and just sort of smile.

And I think that's the coolest way to be. Like, you know I'm upset, but I'm not going to give you the credit for my being upset. Well, you know, I'm not even going to call it upset. We have some good conversations over there, and most time it's, it's, Most time we got to agree to disagree. And the other thing I do when I'm pissed off at him, I just say, you know what?

All right, I'm just going to throw the ball inside the DJ Burns. And we're going to make you make a call. Somebody's got a big call. I love that. Coach Kevin Keats, NC State Wolfpack, making a great run. We are pulling for y'all, man. Go ACC. Yeah, keep going, coach.

And the tourney. Thanks for coming on. Go win at all. Tom. Hey, hey, guys. Thanks for having you. me and look you can I know that you guys are Virginia fans but man for right now I'm asking you just to be NC state fan that's all I'm asking you we're behind you we're behind you got you

yeah thank you guys I do you all right dude