Green Light with Chris Long - Bill Belichick's HOF Snub, Eagles Hire Mannion & Betting Super Bowl LX

Episode Date: January 30, 2026

Super Bowl LX featuring the Seattle Seahawks and New England Patriots is nearly here and Chris, Macon and Stanford Steve give out their betting leans and prop bets for the Super Bowl. Will Drake Maye ...or Sam Darnold hit their throwing props? What about Jaxon Smith-Njigba's receiving bets? And which player is the best value to record a sack? The fellas also run through some NFL updates and talk Bill Belichick's Hall of Fame Snub, Sean Mannion being named the Eagles offensive coordinator and Joe Brady earning the Buffalo Bills head coaching position. (00:00:00) - Super Bowl LX (00:16:00) - Super Bowl Bets (00:32:04) - Sean Mannion Named Eagles OC (00:44:07) - Super Bowl Prop Bets (00:51:44) - Bill Belichick HOF Snub (01:02:31) - Joe Brady Named Bills Head Coach Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline presented by Zone Nicotine and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open: ‪(202) 991-0723‬ Head to https://nicokick.com/zone and use code GL20 for 20% off at checkout. Check out Green Light's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, where you can catch all the latest GL action: Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I tend to like the Seahawks and probably lay the points. I'm on the Patriots running line. If you're betting the Patriots, you're making a quarterback bet. It's Joe Brady, man. Joe Brady, head coach, the Buffalo Bills. You know what it feels like to me? Vermeal Dunn and Mike March stepping in. And yeah, I do like Bill.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I am partial to, I played for Bill. You can't argue with the fact I've never seen a coach. Like I said, they could walk around a field and coach every position better than the position coach. White Steve. Gentlemen. What's up, dude? I like to take my head off and congratulate making.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Oh, yeah, man. I like to take my glasses off and congratulate making. Whoa, who is that guy? It's a guy getting harmful blue light into his eyes. Come on, dude. We're not going to continue with that. What were you saying, Chris? Say again?
Starting point is 00:00:53 You were in the middle of saying something? I was saying I'm getting harmful blue light in my eyes. I'll get there in a second. And I know some people just can't stand it. They don't like these glasses. They don't think it's professional. Well, you can all kiss my ass. I'm avoiding depression, sleep disturbances.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Nice. And a whole host of other ailments. Making congratulations. Oh. You, I mean, it's really remarkable how good you are at props. Now, you're good generally winning the league. but 5 and 0 when we had to pull a bunch of props out of our asses and I'm sitting there thinking hey I'm going I'm 4 in 1
Starting point is 00:01:36 I'm sitting there tracking my bets thinking I got this thing in the bag the guy doesn't lose 5 and 0 to finish the season he's what 57 58% on the year how many wins 60 60 wins guy it's like it's like winning the home run title back in the day what was your record 60 and what 60, 42, and 3. Wow. He was cooking.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Dude. He was cooking. Thank you, guys. So we picked 104 games. Is that right? Yeah. 105. 105.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Okay. And I would like to point out that we probably picked them better as a group than any other major podcast. Yeah, I had to do it just because Makin would do the same thing to me. And I just went opposite of every one of his picks. You got fucked. Yeah. It's fine. So you're not owning.
Starting point is 00:02:28 You're not owning your, your ofer. Dude, his ofer was totally predicated on just taking the other side. I had to do it to go against you to win. Oh, I'm sorry, players. But when I take over Kenneth Walker receiving yards, I get, I get, I get, I get, I get yelled at for gaming the system. You get yelled at every pick. You do, yeah, you, you kind of wear that whole thing out, dude.
Starting point is 00:02:50 You're not used to it. Yeah. Livius. Hey, congratulations. Yeah, we're trying to. I had a great time. Thank you for the occasion, you know. Thanks for everybody who made this happen. Well, we got the, we got the party at the Super Bowl, right? Yes. Yeah, what did I call it? The, what did you call it? It was great. Here we go. We got
Starting point is 00:03:17 to look for the backdoor cover group chat here. Yeah. You know what, Chris, too, ever since he did that song it all flipped it is true i mean i wasn't up by that much no but it was the tide's turned you know the kitchen you know hey heavy as the head the crown heavy as the head the crown making you're about to feel what that's like on your neck dude we all have a title now right yeah i think we all have a title yeah no what so you say now i said steve said in the group text congrats making when to get to san francisco i said yeah there's a ceremony money. Oh, this is good because this rhymes. I said, Winners dinner.
Starting point is 00:03:59 And making goes, L.O.L. Who the fuck types L.O.L. Seriously. I type L.O.L. That doesn't answer the question. Losers online is what that stands for. There we go. Steve said, L.O.L. doesn't answer the question. I said, it's like catching the frisbee and can jam.
Starting point is 00:04:17 For those of you who play can jam, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Yes, you've won, but attending the winter dinner consummates the championship. making you gotta come to San Francisco or else that banner's hanging in the in the in never never land or something I don't know where we're gonna put it would San Francisco be at all like New Orleans when I ride on the same airplane as Steve to the site and then I see him for lunch for about 10 minutes and then I ask him what he's doing the rest of the day and it's well I'm going to the Excel party and then I'm going to the CAA party and then I'm meeting my agent for a drink and maybe I'll see you tomorrow or the day after that.
Starting point is 00:04:58 And there just doesn't end up being much fellowship. I, dare I say, winter's dinner isn't actually on the itinerary for the week. Oh, I think it is. I believe it is. Steve, would you commit to having some dinner? Tuesday night, yeah. Tuesday night.
Starting point is 00:05:13 That sounds fucking great, dude. After the Pro Bowl. That sounds great. Yeah. The Pro Bowl, that's where all the best players play. Hey ding-dongs. Go to play us play. This independent contractor lost three days a week, three days of work this week due to snow and ice.
Starting point is 00:05:32 So I can't roll out to San Francisco on a Tuesday. You weren't going to come after you got on that plane phone from New Orleans last year. Let's be honest. I'm still feeling that. Steve, Steve, Steve. Yo, San Francisco Super Bowl. How do we feel? Sounds really hyped about it.
Starting point is 00:05:55 No, it's... We're going to college. No, it's not. It's... It's too spread out. I don't like the idea how we sell the idea of the Golden Gate Bridge and the game is played almost... I mean, shit, time-wise,
Starting point is 00:06:10 you could drive 100 miles in the time it's going to take you to get from San Francisco to that concrete monster at Levi's in Santa Clara. That place is soulless. Yeah, it's brutal. And what was crazy was it was sold out being there for an Alabama-Clemson game. And it's just like of all the Alabama-Clemson games I've been at, and, you know, Phoenix and New Orleans in Tampa was awesome.
Starting point is 00:06:39 It just, it doesn't do it for me. And then you factor in the pain in the ass that the Super Bowl is. just a lot of logistics that don't need to be. I thought New Orleans is perfect. You can walk everywhere. You see a lot more people. And I get it making it's hard. And Chris, you've done it long enough.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And you're planning to be on time for things is probably not your strength. But this only complicates it. So I wonder if- 30 minutes early for this podcast. Whoa. Okay. Me too. I told the guys it was 4.30.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And I told me five. That's how early we are. But you know how it is. We get there and, you know, we figure it out. I mean, some of the best nights are hanging at, finding a hotel lobby bar and just hanging out there. Yeah, I'm kind of excited that it's spread out, man. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:34 You know, there's a lot of built-in excuses not to make it wherever people need you to go. Yeah. We are staying in the Marina district. Is that right? You guys are set. Yeah. And we're going to be. And we're going to be near.
Starting point is 00:07:48 the Golden Gate Bridge. You should have a beautiful view of it. Wednesday. I'm going to see the Golden Gate Bridge. Are you? Me and that bridge are having a stare down, dude. I just want to give you a little tip here. And I think this might intrigue Reed and the boys because they are very adventurous.
Starting point is 00:08:06 There was a group of guys that would take turns and they would drive to the Golden Gate Bridge. And there's a ladder. And they would brown bag it. And they would go up to the top of the bridge and eat lunch. What? Yeah. When was this? Oh, in college.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Dude, this is 2026. They're not going to let you do that. Yeah, especially Super Bowl week. Yeah, Todd. When you go over there, you know, drive across, there's the perch right after you get over it. It's pretty cool. But, I mean, if you haven't done,
Starting point is 00:08:40 we talked about this, I think a couple weeks ago, just the idea of Alcatraz. That thing is, when you see it, man, I mean, everybody's seeing the movie, The Rock. and I thought that did it justice. But when you're in it for those night tours, you just start thinking about like the realness that that place is. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Whatever the fuck he said, dude. If you keep going over to Golden Gate Bridge, St. Quentin's up there. We used to go do some beaches to the men in the jail there. That was an eye-opening experience. We might get straight. But they say it's like an hour by boat both ways. And that seems like it doesn't make a lot of sense. Don't get on a boat in the bay.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Why? It's just, you're wasting time. To get to Alcatraz? Oh, no, no, Alcatraz. Yeah. I was like, what do you want me to drive my Uber out there? I thought you meant going over and around and checking out, Santa Rosa and all that, like, just get in a car and just do it.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Is there somewhere I can see a shark, a great white shark? Well, if it's still the deal, like fishermen's wharf towards the marina, there's, a bunch of peers and the things that are crazy i remember getting on the tour for the alcatraz and it was the most seals i've ever seen in my life and i'm thinking all the seals were on shore because they were scared to death of what was in the water oh yeah yeah but it's yeah i mean then you start thinking about that iron iron iron iron man triathlon that starts at alcatraz and they swim those people are insane and biking biking and running in that city oh buddy that's do it but don't waste your time going to Lombard Street. It's the dumbest thing in the world.
Starting point is 00:10:17 You guys are where everybody wants to be in the marina. You got it all there and it's really cool. That's great. That's awesome. We can't wait, sort of. Guys, I have an uncle called Dave in Portola Valley. Oh, that's Stanford country. Where's Portola Valley? You know anything about Portola Valley? Oh, yeah. One of the best bars on the West Coast is Chris would be in love with this place. Zatz. Razzati's Alpine in. And back in the day, they've
Starting point is 00:10:47 upped it. They put TVs outside, but it used to just be picnic benches, and they only served 40s and 32s. And we would go out there after, that was our spring ball spot. After spring game, we'd go there. It's,
Starting point is 00:10:59 it's incredible. It's like the picnic benches are from the 70, like they haven't put much money into it. And, you know, hot dogs, burgers, and big old 32s, man. It, uh, the big mouse. What's it called? You look at uh, Rizadez Alpine in.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Rzotti's Alpine in. Yeah. Oh, it looks fucking incredible. Yeah, it's the best. It's the best place in the world. Okay. Steve, when are you leaving? That's where I'll be going Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:11:30 You will? Yeah. I'm going to go to Stanford plays Clemson Wednesday night and hoop. So I'm going to hopefully have some, uh, toes on the, on the wood. You can do some of the, you're going to do some of the. No, we got to worry about our team. No. No.
Starting point is 00:11:44 What if I hopped on a bird, say Friday? I'll be in Los Angeles. By Friday, nobody has any more energy. Friday's the worst possible idea you've ever had. Friday the Super Bowl is awful. Yeah. Anything else? Well, I don't know that we want to move off the gambling quite yet.
Starting point is 00:12:09 No. I mean, you're right. still talking about the gambling in your title and since we're not making picks looking ahead right now uh last i saw the line was four and a half kind of sitting right there was that is that the case still yeah i think that is the case hey before we get there tan man i nearly forgot why don't you play the song they thought they had me in a side but i'm a monster on the slate of tear in the night Dude, honestly, it's scary how easily you can make a country banger on AI. Dog, Calbs delivered me this beautiful mic about a half hour ago.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And then he recommended I put together a little ditty. And that's how quickly it can happen. That's crazy. Wow. Crazy. You just say country and it goes. Country voice. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Yeah. Congratulations. Yeah. I'll say it once more. Yeah. Thank you guys. Thanks a lot. And when I see you in like a month, I'll probably shake your hand and say congratulations again.
Starting point is 00:14:43 I'm really thinking about this Friday San Francisco flight. Dog, that would be like the dumbest thing ever, wherever you'd get to the Airbnb and everybody like, good to see you. Like, cool, man. Yeah. This was worth it. Fucking 12 hours in the air just to be. like I go here. Saturday last year
Starting point is 00:15:06 in New Orleans, dude, we had this Smyranoff appearance with Flowrider. I remember waking up in seeing you guys there. It was like 90 degrees outside. I was sweating. These guys are built different. Units and units of alcohol. Just thinking we were leaving straight from that thing
Starting point is 00:15:24 to go to the airport and leave. And I got to tell you, Saturday is kind of that weird day where you're like, all right, I finished drinking, but I could easily start again, people seem to be having so much fun because you get the wave of people that come in for the weekend and they breathe a little excitement of the deal. That's not going to be you making. You're all in nothing, bro. You got to come Tuesday or, you know, just stay home, man. It's like almost Tuesday right now. You're right. Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:15:50 That flight is long too, man. I know. It sucks. Don't remind me. All right, we've been going long enough. We've 20 minutes of here. When we're talking about the game, though, four and a half. Yeah. I tend to like the Seahawks. And if somebody did put a gun to my head, I'd probably lay the points. Wow. I don't know how you feel about that. Steve, we can talk about props and that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:16:14 But generally, what's your read? I'm on the Patriots money line. Money line. Just because of the recency bias, what they look like compared to what Seattle look like. It's one game. It's two weeks. I look at the idea of the people.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Patriots offense and, you know, being around them and knowing like the capability of Trevion Henderson, say, right? And Trevion, I thought was awesome at Ohio State and Passpro, and he's had some lapses this year. And I think the dynamic of him against Denver, you saw his usage Drake go way down. And because of Denver, blitz and, you know, like they did and being as dominant as they were. I thought that was a reason. I feel like he's in a big uptick towards getting more snaps this week. He's as dynamic as there is. And I think he brings a lot to a table in a match up like this. If you want to spread him out, if you want to get Drake going in the run game, Trevion could catch it and he could run it. I get Seattle's, you know, superiority on the defensive side and what
Starting point is 00:17:26 they do. Eamon Worry has been unbelievable. I made point just about the idea of, you know, we've seen running backs, you know, get more notoriety lately in the league with Sequin, you know, taking that in McAfree, and we've seen an uptick in running backs. I wonder if even Worry's going to do that for safeties. I watch, you know, Caleb Downs for his career.
Starting point is 00:17:49 You know, he's floating around in top 10 in mock drafts. He's an absolute football player. And I wonder, you know now even more he had the whole package he he tore it up at the combine and he's just as the guys in the locker room used to call um Deshaun Foster as a true freshman we call him the ultra beast like when you're an ultra beast you know you stick out uh so I just the the the idea that the Patriots aren't going to be afraid of anything I still think Diggs is a problem Holland's you know made some plays and I like the Patriots defense uh I like their secondary a hell of a lot more
Starting point is 00:18:24 than what the Rams put on. And I get it. The Rams are down guys, you know, and give a guy's second chances. So I just, I look at the underdog mentality. I look at Drake knowing he has to play well and be in here.
Starting point is 00:18:36 So that's why I'm going with the Patriots. Well, you said it about Eam and Waria. I think, you know, he's kind of their Kyle Hamilton, man. And I went as far as saying the other day. I think I know who the best defensive player on that team is the next decade.
Starting point is 00:18:52 You know, it's now on the current roster, I mean, there's a lot of, you know, guys you brought from elsewhere. Murphy's going to be there a while. Tank, Leonard, you know, Ernest, those are like some of your core players that came from other places and that sort of thing in their vets. I just can't imagine a guy being more important to that defense in the near future when you have a guy like that. It really does allow you to do whatever the fuck you want. And, and yeah, I see where you're coming from. you and Mattress Mac. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:19:25 Yeah, he's on, so yeah, you and Mattress Mac are on the Pat's money line. I didn't know that. On the Pat's money line. I do feel like Mattress Mac now that you said he's on that side too. I think it all, you know, I said this on the show the other day. I think it all comes down to how Darnold handles pressure. Correct. And there's some people that are going to say, and I don't understand these people,
Starting point is 00:19:47 but people are going to say, well, you know, the national media is still enamored with talking about Darnold's inefficiencies. We really like Sam Darnold. He played out of his mind the other day. And I think I'm taking the Seahawks. And in fact, I'm giving him out. So I think he's going to play fine. But he has not been great against the Blitz this year.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Yeah. I think against the Blitz, he's 25th in rating, compared to, you know, 101.6 rating when he's not Blitz. I think he's like 81 or something like that. That's a big delta. And Core's been dialing it up. So, you know, I think that's a pretty obvious take on what has to happen for Seattle's offense. I think for the Patriots offense, it's going to be about how do you manufacture your version of a run game in this football game?
Starting point is 00:20:39 Because I think the biggest advantage is the front in the run game against these guys. It's not a disadvantage like you had against Houston in the past game. This isn't as dominant a pure one-on-on-on-reveillance. on one winning pass rush unit. But what they can do is they can bludgeon you in the run game. And so where are you going to get that run production against Houston, who's also a top five run defense? They carried the ball 32 times.
Starting point is 00:21:04 I mean, part of that was the weather. Part of that was being up in the football game. They're going to find a way to stick to it. I wonder how they're going to do it. And I think for the betters out there, it's all about the matchups outside like Gonzalez on J. ASN, Marcus Jones on Cup. The reason I love the
Starting point is 00:21:24 the reason I love the Shaheed props is just that. He's going to get their third best cover guy a lot of the time. Yeah. And I also threw in a long a long shot bouncing around here on Shaheed Super Bowl MVP. I think that's a fun one.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Because I think this game is ugly. I think it's lower scoring, I would think. And in a game like that, one kick return. And all of a sudden, you're just standing up there with a fucking Toyota Tundra dude or whatever it is at the end of the football game. So I like Shaheed. I think he's a key to the game.
Starting point is 00:22:00 I think the Patriots run game, just being able to do something so you're not so one-dimensional. And then the explosives, fucking. Yeah, that's the explosives for Seattle's defense. Now, this is the Rams, but in the last two games against the Rams, I think they gave up like 21 explosives. You know, and we saw that. And, you know, it is Devante Adams. it is Pooka Nakua, but it's still a lot of explosives, and there's a lot of good tape on that.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Mm-hmm. The other thing, just about aim and worry, there was a sequence right around the 50-yard line when there was a possible fumble, but they ruled them down, and he picked it up and ran it to the end zone. And I'm like, he's not even running hard, and he got there in seconds.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Like he was just gliding. He was gliding. I was like, put in a pack. to give him the football. It looks too good. It looks too good. Yeah. There's also a sequence. He made three straight press breakups. I thought the one on Devante, Midekman, P.I. got there early. But no, he's a, he's a freakazoid. The other thing, Chris, and I'm sure you're going to talk about this and having guys on all week that have the experience. McDaniels has been here so many times, man.
Starting point is 00:23:14 That's a big one. Like, I think that's enormous. With a young quarterback, knowing that how much Drake can bring to the table as far as giving you versatility in the run game. You know, you want to go short screens. You want to use that pressure against them. Patriots are going to have everything in the bag. And again, as the underdog, you know Vrable is going to bring everything to the table,
Starting point is 00:23:36 which is another factor I consider because I think that much of the guy. And, you know, he'll, McDonald won't sleep for two weeks. No one. knowing what's coming so um well think about they just had McVeigh they had to deal with McVe um now you go to Josh McDaniels guys with a ton of playoff experience and I thought um honestly last week McDowell made some interesting decisions I mean they played a lot of man coverage they
Starting point is 00:24:08 won on third down which is huge I mean you know you talk about like playing a guy who's been in the playoffs made deep runs like these are the money downs you think McVe would have the advantage you know, especially with having Devonte back and everything, but McDonald found a way to win those spots with the players on the field. And yeah, well, I think Josh McDaniels and that whole thing scares the fuck out of me for sure. I also think there is enough smoke with the Drake May thing. And I think Drake May is stuck. I don't know how many times I need to fucking say this.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I disagree. I disagree with Cam Newton on the, on the, he said something effective. It's given Trent Dilfer vibes. I disagree with that sentiment. Yeah. I don't know how many quarterbacks, and, you know, he hasn't played great in the playoffs, okay? But how many quarterbacks have had a tougher gauntlet of defenses leading up to and into the Super Bowl? These are all top five defenses that he's played so far.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And I also think what's interesting about it is when you went back and looked at like, say, a July ranking of the wide receiving cores around the lead, where do you think consensus New England was rated? Oh, God. 31st, I looked it up on a PFF website. I was going to say 30. But ahead of only the Cleveland Brown. So, you know, I'm not going to take anything away from Drake. And obviously, the defense has kind of led the way. But you got to remember, New England's dynasty was not always about fireworks, dude.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And, you know, if you're looking at the second installment of it, you know, there are some parallels to 2001 deal, right? Absolutely. The way this team has had to play. So I think this is. I don't want to take anything away from Drake May, but in this second season where he's garnered a lot of attention for MVP, rightfully so,
Starting point is 00:25:55 and I would argue if it's a fucking, I would give it to him because I didn't think Stafford played that well down the stretch. I don't know that he played his best ball against good football teams. And there were stats that support that against winning teams, a lot more pedestrian.
Starting point is 00:26:10 This is going to be a different kind of group. And I do think, if you're betting the the Patriots, you're making a quarterback bet. Yeah. You're making a quarterback bet. And you're also probably making a head coach bet because I think Vrable is such a stud in these situations.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Another thing that's fun, Steve, and make is, no matter who's at the, you know, in the winter circle at the end of this football game, you're going to have a defensive guy holding that trophy at head coach. And the last time we had somebody like that holding a trophy was honestly Pete Carroll. It was Pete Carroll back in like 2014, I think. I think you got to go that far back.
Starting point is 00:26:51 You know, Nick Siriani, not an offensive coordinator, but he's an offensive guy. Okay, they win the Super Bowl last year, but you got to go backaways, dude. And you had that run on non-offensive minds, winning Super Bowls. You had Harbaal win one. But I think it's a lot of fun for the other defensive coaches in the league.
Starting point is 00:27:14 to look at this thing. I said, Mike McDonald, he's got a lot of fans along the way on this run, probably. A lot of these DCs, the mentors, and people like that, who are probably going to get their jobs anyways. But this is a positive trend for defensive coaches, man. Agreed. I also
Starting point is 00:27:32 a big factor in McDonald, which I was super impressed by, is he just said, Kubiak, go ahead. Do whatever you want. Yes. That was an offense, I mean, that last third down where they get the PI on Cup, like, I was shocked.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I didn't think they were going to throw the football there. And then what they do, you know, and how they run it, you know, with that rollout, like that's a risky, that's a risky play. And the only way you do that is you've got a monster trust in your quarterback. They believed in Sam. That last drive and you had to flip the field. I thought that was like the, that was like the final step in that football game of like, okay, you got to put away, including third and long, he gets leveled by Fisk on a QBK.
Starting point is 00:28:16 keep and trusting him to just handle the football at midfield. So I thought Kubiak, my big takeaway from that game was like, that offense was super fucking creative. And I thought Kubiak was going to be the next Bill's head coach. Obviously, it went in a different direction. You asked earlier, why do you think Arizona's kind of not talking much about what's going on with their head coaching vacancy? well maybe as you put it
Starting point is 00:28:46 maybe it's a guy who's involved in the Super Bowl I think the guy is is Kubiak man this guy the way he coached the other day I thought the concepts in that game were fucking fantastic I love the J.S. in the backfield in the red zone go scissors
Starting point is 00:29:00 you had you had a ton of really intentional motion you had the way he's moving the pieces around on his offense man it's just like he just seems like a great coach and I love what he did in New Orleans, so it's great to see a full year of it.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Making, who would you hire if you were to Cardinals? Chris Shula. Okay. Seems like, you know, Burnett just burnt your house down and now you're new Burnett's moving in. Potentially. Listen,
Starting point is 00:29:41 I love the under, Chris. It sounds like you do too. I do. In large part, because I think Christian Gonzalez is a top three player in this game, as is JSN. Top five. Will we give me top five? And I don't think anybody's really taken away JSN. I don't know if Stingley followed him around or not.
Starting point is 00:30:06 He had a big game against Houston. But I don't think he's going to have the freedom that he had last week against the Rams. and if you are the tease god and you want to go up to under 51 and a half are you more comfortable Seattle plus 1.5 or New England plus 10.5 well Seattle if I'm teasing I'm I think Seattle is going to be my plus two and a half at that point and then I'll probably buy to three so if I'd be one and a half it'd be one and a half plus one and a half yeah Yeah, okay. So you move in six points there? Yeah. Okay, yeah. One and a half. So I would look at it, I would look at it like this. I can't buy to three. And I'm not adhering to the Wong method, as you all know, very important to your boy. I would probably, knowing I'm betting the Seahawks, I'd go the other way. And I try to hit it in the middle because this does feel like it feels like a 20 to 16. game. Now, you could get out there and the problem is the pads have had to deal with great
Starting point is 00:31:24 defenses, which they're going to keep dealing with, and inclement weather in the playoffs. And, and, you know, the Seahawks, they had that big offensive explosion last week. I don't think people realize how pedestrian the Rams defense looked to me at the, towards the end of the season. Ever since Quentin Lake left the field, and then they lose Witherspoon. And I said this, Steve, I don't know if you agree, but I think the front, we got a little out over our skis with that front, where it's not the Giants front that could take over a Super Bowl. Especially when Byron wasn't 100%. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:01 I thought that was enormous. Oh, we got some breaking news. Reid's coming in with breaking news. We've got a new offensive coordinator for the Philadelphia Eagles, Sean Mannion. Sean Mannion? Sean Mannion. Like, my old purmate? Like beavers?
Starting point is 00:32:16 Oregon State. Oregon State. Sean Mannion. 33 years old. Big boy. Wow. They're going to walk all over him, huh? Who.
Starting point is 00:32:29 He's interviewed twice already for the Eagles OC job. And he was at Green Bay. Six. He was a Q. He was a Q. He was a Q. Great dude. Sean Mannion.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Great dude. Fucking great teammate. Haven't talked to him in years. Um, hit him up, dude. Don't anticipate talking to him anytime soon because of what I'm about to say about the, the, the job, but somebody asked me today, would you be more like if you were an offensive coordinator, would you, would you take the Broncos OC job or would you take the Eagles OC job?
Starting point is 00:33:07 And I said the Broncos. Hmm. Well, I mean, what say y'all? And it has nothing to do for the very simple minded. It is not a quarterback thing. This isn't just a, do you like Bow Nix or do you like Jalen Hart's thing? You're just saying, you're just saying because of how hot the kitchen can get. That kitchen's, that kitchen is hot.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Mm-hmm. And in Philly, it feels like the back end of a window. In Denver, it feels like the window flung open a little bit. They missed their opportunity this year because of Bo Nix's ankle. I also think it feels like you're not actually doing the job though but you're going to get all the credit look with the Davis Webb and I hear
Starting point is 00:33:53 great things about Davis Webb okay but like you might get a fucking head coaching job if the Broncos are back in that game again next year and you're the OC like you're coaching under Sean Peyton you've got a great offensive line I think I think the Eagles we got to answer
Starting point is 00:34:11 some questions about the offensive line coming in next season like the tackles are fucking awesome but if you don't have that core three in the middle it's not what it was and also sequin's a year older you know a j brown we'll see what happens with that you're dallas goders gonna gonna have to walk um you know i'm sure i'm forgetting some other factors that and you know the the trend is that you either get a a great job or it's like a career suicide type deal to be an oc it's Russian roulette being an O.C. in Philly over the last five years. He's not that far removed from playing, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:34:55 I think he played till... 2023 was his last season. Wow. He was actually with the Seahawks. Straight to Green Bay as an offensive assistant in 24, quarterbacks coach in 25. Am I being unfair? No. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I think there's a lot of concerns there. Like to me, the best way I can describe it, I just fumbled into this, is it is like Russian roulette. Denver seems safer. But if you're 33 and you have a chance to be an OC in the NFL, I ain't going to stop you from taking the damn job. You still have one of the best offensive line coaches in football this generation, Jeff Stalin. You've got a head coach who's a Super Bowl winner in Nick Seriani. You got a quarterback who's a Super Bowl winner. I do think, though, next year might be kind of hectic there.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Gotcha. I totally agree with what you're saying because it's, it's kind of like the Doug deal. Like Doug was how far removed from a Super Bowl win. And it was just like, that's it. We can't, he can't do it anymore. Got to move on. Let's, who's next? This is a, like, only there does it happen.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And when I just think of, what's the show everybody loves on Hulu that, the chef, the kid from Shameless. What's the bear? The bear. Those kitchen scenes. Like that's what it feels like Philly's going to be. I got to see that show, huh? I watched the first season.
Starting point is 00:36:24 It was pretty good. Everybody says good. Yeah. It's terrific. Yeah. I'm rooting for Sean, obviously, because now he's an Eagles coach and everything.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I just, it is, it's a pressure cooker kind of situation. And I do think the window is, you're on the back end of the window with the roster. You mentioned Goddard walking. That's where I would look at this offense is getting some fresh blood in at that position. I mean, watching these teams and what they do with moving to tight ends and playing so much more 12 personnel, even teams going to 13, like to help on the edge and get Jalen rolling out and giving easy throws.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Like that's what I would look towards. I mean, Stoughtlin is the best offensive line coach I've ever seen. And he still has plenty of stuff with how long he's been around that he'll have, he'll have. stuff line-wise, but I look at that as where a possibly way the Eagles can fine-tune things and give you some window dressing and addressing the tight-end situation. Because I'm telling you, man, there is so much talent out there and they're up and coming and there's guys all over to place. So that's where I would look at if I was the Eagles to tinker with the offense.
Starting point is 00:37:32 I think it's right. Here's the thing. Yeah, and I think they need a slot receiver. I think that's something they've needed. and it kind of gets overshadowed by the fact that like you've got two all pro type wide receivers outside. But I'm wondering what Adam Schaefter was hinting at when he got on 975 Fanatic in Philly. And he said, I'll tell you what he said. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Can you hear this? Maybe reacting to an OC hired in Philadelphia. Maybe the smoke will come out of NovaCare. we'll find out soon. And maybe it'll be even more than that by next week. Yeah. Will A.J. Brown be traded. It's not an A.J. Brown, it's not an A.J. Brown trade.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Because, you know, I think we ran the numbers on this. I don't see how they trade them. The A.J. Brown trade wouldn't happen until the summer. Yeah, I'm pulling the contract up right now. There is. I think he's a post-June one trade. Yeah. If they were to do it, they would want to designate post-Jew one.
Starting point is 00:38:41 that would be the best, that'll be the most fiscally responsible way to do it. Okay, so go ahead and fucking process of elimination. Schaefter, when he teases something like that, what it, it would have to be either one of your best players. Retirement. Huh? A retirement. A retirement.
Starting point is 00:39:08 By a player? Yeah. I got, I got. worse suspicions than that. I'll put it that way. Okay. It's been a very good defensive football team the last couple of years. So I'll just say that. I, listen, I got, I got concerns about a few things. Anyways, that was some breaking news. So, Steve, how good is, is Sadiq, the Oregon tied in? Not to be biased, but I don't think I've ever seen a player look better in a uniform.
Starting point is 00:39:44 You do love the way he wears his uniform. I'm dying to see what he runs. He's not, it's kind of crazy. He's not this tall, crazy athletic dude. He's strong. He's fat. He's as close to a running back as you could have at the tight end position. And he'll bust your ass running up to see him.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I'll run up to see him. I'll tell you that. So he's got versatility. He's going to be the first guy going. But there's plenty of others. There's a bunch at the Senior Bowl this week that I really, really like that can help offenses. So I see him going pretty high. But I also, that second day, third day, there's going to be guys that are going to come in and help your offense right from the get.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Well, again, you look at kind of what, and I don't know, Mannion, you know, he doesn't have a long resume to draw from. But he was in Green Bay. Yep. So you think about what is it? that they would do, what would LaFleur do differently? You know, you think about some of the staples of that offense. Some of the things I loved about that offense, one of the things I love about what Matt does is he gets, he gets you,
Starting point is 00:41:00 he'll get, he will undress a defense. You understand what I'm saying? And he does it through motion, through shifts. You know, you get good perimeter run game, ideally. quarterback I would say on this on a spectrum of quarterback friendly and difficult
Starting point is 00:41:20 I would say it's quarterback friendly so so everything lines up ideologically but let's see how much change that Nick and Jalen are willing to go through offensively this season it doesn't sound like a 33 year old guy who's
Starting point is 00:41:35 never called plays doesn't sound like he's going to be throwing his weight around so Yeah, it's a little bit. South Powell fired up. South Powell have plenty of hits from Eagles camp. What did South Pal have to say about the hire?
Starting point is 00:41:52 I haven't seen it yet. I'm sure. Can we read? What are some of the reactions? Let me look it up. Sean Maynian. The Green Bay fans would have rathered Mannion as coordinator than who they had. There seemed to be a fight for Mannion when his career was over between Chicago and Green
Starting point is 00:42:13 Bay, maybe even L.A. He sought after for some reason. Okay. So, so, you know, you have optimistic responses under the team announcement. Like, we got the next McVeigh and LaFleur. Great. Someone who never called plays. Get ready to just be another punching bag, buddy.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I'm looking for one that's like, I'm going to jump off the Betsy Ross Bridge. How about this one? This is from John Clark about 30 seconds ago. The last time the Eagles hired a quarterbacks coach from Green Bay, Andy Reed 27 years ago. That's good. That's good. I mean,
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Starting point is 00:44:28 I look at JSA under, receiving yards. What's that number? I think it's creeping towards 100. Dude, it is so high. His receiving yards are always so high. I mean, he was incredible. That's, it's real, guys, we've done this, what, 20, we've done it for years. Like, the hardest thing to do is forget what a team looks like the week prior.
Starting point is 00:44:51 And he was, he was Superman in that NFC championship game. I just don't see that happening again with two weeks to prepare. I mentioned Treviont Henderson. I took a shot at him at MVP. I look at him as over in Russia. and receive. It's not high at all. He could do that in one play with his capability. And then just because I love him, A.J. Barner, anytime touchdown is in, I think it's north of plus 250. I just, I think that dude's awesome. And that's a totally biased pick. What else?
Starting point is 00:45:30 I love, like I said, I love Shaheed props this game and I love Stevenson receptions. I'm sure that's that's a lower number maybe two or two or three two and a half three and a half something like that i think you know you look at houston where you know the run game was they made an effort but it wasn't probably the uh yeah i think he had like four or five catches in that game trabion's receiving rushing combined is 23 and a half wow it only takes one i know that's like he has that capability yeah but also you got to figure they're all thinking everybody he's looking at that number the same way. Yeah, I just think the usage.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I mean, they have been so hard to figure out all year. It's been a three-week span of Ramandre. It's been a three-week span of Trevion. The other one, I was thinking about just seeing how it was the first game we got with no Charbonnet was Kenneth Walker, obviously, balling out. And it was an opportunity. But Halani on third downs was the guy. buddy that's the one he catches one ball on that screen he he runs hurt he didn't turn his head
Starting point is 00:46:46 fast enough sam threw it a little fast yeah it was a fastball and he threw it too quick holand is receiving yards is my favorite one on the board it's eight and a half that's an over that's a lock i love that he had no he didn't have any time to repair now he has two weeks no yeah yeah um i i wow kenneth walk Drake May under one and a half touchdowns. That was a lock last week. You guys were like, what? No, Steve was like what?
Starting point is 00:47:16 I was like, what the other way, what? Like what? How'd you get such a great pick? Yeah, exactly. Did we find Nolan's burner account about the Mannion hire? I'd love to know what that thing's saying. I got a couple. Nolan, what's your reaction to Mannion?
Starting point is 00:47:32 Well, to answer, Steve, I got a couple pretty ugly text going off in the group chats right now here in Philly. No way. I don't believe that at all. I mean, what would they like, dude? Yeah. It could be Dick Vermil or something and they get like, fuck this guy. Bill Walsh's passed away. Sorry. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:47:51 We didn't get McVeigh. Yeah. No, I mean. McVeigh should have kicked the fucking field goal. It's obviously a lot of unknowns. Never called plays. Hey. Fresh into the business as a coach two years in.
Starting point is 00:48:04 We'll see. Super Bowl. Because of so much. field goal talk this past week, a few electric ones. Yes. Longest field goal made, 50.5 yards is the line. Yeah, sure. I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Over. Here's, I got. This would be the most fun to watch. Total yardage of made field goals 135 over or under. That's 3.45 yarders. How fun is that? It's a little exotic for me. Chris, give me this, ready?
Starting point is 00:48:40 Yeah. Give me your favorite, all over a quarter sack. Okay. DeMarcus Lawrence. Nah, not as high on that one. Leonard Williams. Higher on that one. Chase on.
Starting point is 00:48:57 High on that one. He's plus 142. Milt. Very high on that one. That's what I was saying. He's plus 147. Well, he's going to, and that's one thing we didn't bring up, which is the Bradford matchup, which is a big.
Starting point is 00:49:12 one for them. And, and, you know, maybe the reason, you know, that's plus money is you're thinking, hey, Seattle's going to say, we're not going to let this guy beat us. Is Harold Landry going to play? I don't know. I don't think he's played in a couple weeks, right? No. Wow. Here you go. I hear you go. Over a quarter sack plus 414. Boy, yay. It's kind of wild, dude. He's gotten kind of eaten up in that big group. I look at, I thought Will Campbell had some good reps against Benito for somebody who's been, been really downtrodden. It's crazy. We're talking about a fucking rookie here. Yeah. You know, it's like a guy. A.C. championship game on the road. He played Will Anderson. He played Khalil Mack and Tully the week before, you know, and do I think he's ever going to be like a Will Anderson level player?
Starting point is 00:50:09 No, but like those guys get paid a lot too. He played against them as a young buck too in college. And he, I mean, he wasn't, I've seen way worse. Well, here's the deal, dude. Not every tackle is going to match up well with everybody in the fucking league, dude. Everybody has a kryptonite. There you go. You know, even Walter Jones, the great Walter Jones, my teammate James Hall used to beat him sometimes.
Starting point is 00:50:34 And Walter Jones was unbeatable. And it'd be like some random guy, dude. Well, in this case, he's just playing the best players in the league. But I thought he did have some better reps against Benito. And obviously it helped to not have to drop back and throw the ball fucking 40 times a game. But Drake's shoulder, we can't go through this without talking about the rumors that he has a shoulder. Is that prevalent? So we get to see cutlets maybe?
Starting point is 00:51:02 No, just that it might be affecting his ability to throw the football. I'm not buying it. I'm sorry. Well, hey, I can play this game too, Sam Darnold. Yeah. Oblique. Oh, I have an oblique. I'm going to play the game in my life in 10 days.
Starting point is 00:51:17 That news is coming out of New England. Yeah. New England is who said, hey, if Drake would not have been a full participant, if we had to tell you whether or not he was a participant at practice today, if practice were today. That's a wild thing to say. Like, all right. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Cool story. Cool story, Braves. not falling for it okay so let's talk about the bill bellichick thing so bill's not first ballot that's what's that's what we've gleaned over the last 48 hours he's not a first ballot Hall of Famer. And my take is the guy has eight fucking Super Bowls. They put his game plan
Starting point is 00:52:09 to beat the Buffalo Bills in the Hall of Fame. Okay. There's been 60 Super Bowls or something, right? He's been involved. He's won eight of them. He's been involved in like a sixth of them.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Okay. I think what's, interesting to me, guys, is like when Pete, if it's about SpyGate, which I don't think it is. I think it's about he was mean to the media and Bill Pullian and Robert Kraft saying, we're not letting this fucking guy in this year. And maybe equal parts Ken Anderson and those guys like needing to get in right now. But if it were about SpyGate guys, and correct me if I'm wrong, when Pete Rose gambled, they removed him from baseball. Right. It was a lifetime ban.
Starting point is 00:53:04 If this was something to the effect of legacy defining to where you can't put a guy in the Hall of Fame, then why didn't you just kick him out of the fucking league? You continue to enjoy his expertise, his greatness, the Patriots dynasty, the league made so much fucking money off that. And then when it comes time to give the guys due, you're going to say, oh, he can't, he's not going to get in this this year, which is even dumber. Because if it was something that like compromised the sanctity of the Hall of Fame, then it's got to be so bad that he can't get in the second or third year. What are we doing? Are we proving a point? Like what the
Starting point is 00:53:49 fuck is going? It's all about hurt feelings, dude. That's what that's what this thing's all about. And for Bill Pollyan, who alleges that he voted. Yeah, that's the one thing that doesn't get covered. Pullian voted for him. That's what he says. The Hall of Fame has now said so. I don't know why they're corroborating it. Because I don't want to go on my whole deflate gate ramp because in the second half of that fucking ball game
Starting point is 00:54:11 with normally inflated footballs, they beat the dog shit out of Andy. And then they went and played a historically good defense in the Super Bowl with footballs that were between 11 and a half and 12 and a half PSIs and move the ball up and down the field on that group. So I don't want to hear anything about deflategate. as far as spy gate's concern though if it were that bad then you need to make a decision on whether he gets in the hall or not it can't be a well not this year thing maybe next year then it couldn't
Starting point is 00:54:41 be that fucking bad could it i just i don't understand this thing i think personal feelings get in the way of like accolades who should be who shouldn't all the time but this is a really egregious one and what sucks is i've always wondered what Bill Belichick's Hall of Fame speech would sound like. And now I don't know if we're going to get one. I don't know if we're going to get one that we would have gotten this year if they'd have done the right thing. And I know they just changed the rule, right?
Starting point is 00:55:15 And he'd be lucky to get in a year out because a couple years ago he'd have to wait five years. But like, this guy's done so much for the game. I don't care how mean he was to media members. If you vote on the Hall of Fame, you should have to make your votes public, dude, you should. Because this is bullshit. I agree.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I think it's a problem in all the Hall of Fames. You brought up Pete Rose. I think baseball's had their problems. Basketball has their problems. And it's, it's brutal. Now, did you read Mike Sandoz tweet just about the process of being in the room? Like, I thought that made a lot of sense where the math becomes, you know, but now you're talking about the messages that were going on in the room.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I remember having, it was one of the most fascinating deals. The Saturday of the Super Bowl, that would be done. And I had Mel Kuyper's radio show. And we would get Clayton, who literally walked out of the meeting. And the first thing he did was call us to talk about it. Now, obviously, there wasn't specifics. But I always was blown away at the, I get the politics of it. Because you have these people that are assigned to present a certain person.
Starting point is 00:56:26 And it's, it feels very weird. And to your point, there are a lot of feelings in there and there shouldn't be. You're talking about people that, that were at the highest level. It's a serious matter. And I, that was over 20 years ago. We would, we would get Clayton to talk about that. And I just always wondered about the process. And now with this fallout, do you call it flawed?
Starting point is 00:56:53 I don't know if flawed's the right word, but it feels. feels like there's a lot more involvement than there should be. Well, it's such a blatant fuck you. Yeah. You know, and it's just to me is it's unbecoming of the NFL, dude. Like you're supposed to be, this is supposed to be a process that's governed by football. Nothing else. In fact, it's in the bylaws of the Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:57:19 And so the SpyGate thing, if that's what's motivating you to make him wait a year, I would go down that road and have that conversation and say, hey, well, then if it's that bad, then don't put him in at all. But you're all going to enjoy, it's like Pete Rose when he died, they're like, oh, well, you know, it would be nice to profit off Pete Rose's legacy in perpetuity now. I mean, I don't get it. Makin.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Yeah, I think the subjectivity of these gatekeepers is a big part of the problem. because these voters have personal bias, regional loyalties, varying character standards, and it's more reflection of the person's relationship with the media than their performance on the field or on the sideline. And if you're counting on everybody else to vote for a guy, just because you want to do LC Greenwood is solid, well, then the process is also screwed up. Yeah. Yeah. So it measures not how great somebody was, but how a small committee perceives somebody's narrative, which is inherently subjective.
Starting point is 00:58:33 And the ironic part about you're talking about making the league a lot of money. You know what else made the league a lot of money is spy gate and deflate gate. That stuff was interesting. And if the Hall of Fame is a shrine, that's one thing. if it's a museum, then in theory, it should include everything that the sport entails. It goes without saying it should include the greatest coach. So I don't know the fix. Do we all just agree that there's some non-negotiables like the greatest coach gets in?
Starting point is 00:59:14 We don't need to vote on it. Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't know. I think also to the same, there's a ton of coaches who don't tell you anything and they do it with this fake look on their face. And, you know, the NFL's going to run that media
Starting point is 00:59:34 till the cows come home. And honestly, it's less interesting than a guy that doesn't want to fucking be there and is just giving you one word answers because neither guy is giving you the answer. neither guy is up there doing the media dance one of them is just is just playing the game better and and so yeah to that whole thing with the media man like i don't know what percentage of coaches really give you insightful answers he at least was like hey you know what time it is you're not
Starting point is 01:00:07 getting a fucking thing for me and the NFL ate that shit up and they put it on nfl.com and they put it on their NFL instagram and they you love you know the lore of how grumpy he was every time he got up at the podium, ma'am. It just feels like it's a total fuck job. Now, he doesn't need this. I mean, he doesn't need this shit to validate his career. It's just, it's kind of goofy. It's just goofy.
Starting point is 01:00:31 It feels like, it feels like hurt feelings are making a 75-year-old man wait another year to claim his prize at Dave and Busters. And he won every fucking game he played at. He's got a fucking six bags full of tickets. Come back next week, dude. We don't want to pay you out. It's ridiculous to me, dude. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:00:54 And yeah, I do like Bill. I am partial to, I played for Bill. Do I think he's perfect? No. I mean, but you can't argue with the fact. I've never seen a coach, like I said, they could walk around a field and coach every position better than the position coach. And that was him, save for maybe SCAR on that team at offensive line.
Starting point is 01:01:16 he was unbelievable. And, you know, well, I'll leave that. I'll leave that out. Well, I will ask, how many guys in the pro football Hall of Fame got pot for steroids, probably? Or performance and answering drugs at some point. I have no idea. My answer is I don't care. A lot of men.
Starting point is 01:01:40 We never cared. Tell the whole story. We've never cared. We care for a little bit. and then we just let it go. And I'm not saying those guys shouldn't be. And what I'm saying is though, like, if we're talking about cheating, cheating is cheating. So, and here's the other one.
Starting point is 01:01:55 And Robert Kraft's involved in this thing. If I, if, you know, it doesn't make a shit if I had to guess. Because Robert Kraft might get in in this group. And I know he alleges that like, hey, I, you know, you're going to tell me that he didn't know what was going on in SpyGate. So if you're telling me he didn't know what was going on in SpyGate, then how much do you think he has to do with them winning football games? And if he did, then isn't he complicit to? I don't understand, dude.
Starting point is 01:02:29 I just don't understand. Anyways. The last one we got to talk about is more AFC. He's Joe Brady, man. Joe Brady, head coach of the Buffalo Bills. Here's my take on it, guys. you got a 30-year-old quarterback who a lot of people consider the best in the league right now. Okay, you don't have to like that, but a lot of football people believe that.
Starting point is 01:02:53 And the offense has not been the problem over the last couple years. So to me, maybe they had a big fish in mind that it became apparent they weren't going to land. Or maybe they knew all long that they were doing the thing that we often talk about, which is when you're going to lose a guy to another team. and be stuck there with a new offensive coordinator, it is more valuable to have the continuity on the side of the ball that's been so important. And so now the huge hire is defensive coordinator.
Starting point is 01:03:23 I think that that hire is bigger than the head coach hire in this case because the head coach hire is, hey, we're going to go back to being a team that can score 35 points a game. We need to fix the personnel. That is it. Like, and, and to, their roster's so fucking pedestrian to me in spots that I don't know if this is going to even work out. That's, that's, you know what it feels like to me? What?
Starting point is 01:04:00 Vermil Dunn and Mike March stepping in. Oh. Just ride the hot hand. We know what we have. and we're going to take our strength and make it better. And exactly to your point, what happened to the Rams?
Starting point is 01:04:17 They never addressed personnel. Yeah. Never did. I remember it was Azekeem. Lett, he was one of the first guys to go. Marshall, you know, the, you know, mileage on the tires. Kurt, there's just a whole deal.
Starting point is 01:04:31 It just feels like in this world where everybody just loves offense. And I was, I was, I was thinking that they needed a change just because I know you're not supposed to get a, you know, your read, but they needed more personality. They need more of a head coach dynamic than McDermott. I get it. He's a great defensive mind. But I just wonder if his message or lack of creativity in messages got old and got stale.
Starting point is 01:05:00 And to your point, I wondered, you know, would Dave be the possibility knowing he had head coaching experience? it didn't work out. But, you know, I believe Josh's best numbers were still under Dable. I'm not positive on that. But this feels like Mike March to me, with just right in the hot hand of who's the most positive guy in our building. It's our offense. It's our offense coordinator.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Make him the hire. Well, when did Diggs leave Buffalo? I'm trying to remember what year that was. It was 24. So you got, what, parts of one year? Oh, because I remember when, when Joe Brady took. took over, the digs usage went down. It became obvious that they were trying to run the offense through tight ends and that sort of thing.
Starting point is 01:05:46 So that was the back half of 23 when Dorsey got let go. So I would just make the argument on the Dable thing. Yeah, I would say with Dable, I mean, they had Diggs, prime digs. And so, you know, like I look at this offense since then and, you know, they certainly pivoted. but I don't think they've had a ton of talent outside and that's and not to just continue to make excuses for for you know Josh but I like you you got to call it what it is man like if you don't fix that it ain't gonna fucking matter if you don't fix the defense you look at the list of
Starting point is 01:06:23 unrestrictive free agents they have heading 26 Bosa Slay Dequan Jones Matt Milano a J.J. Epinessa Trey White DeMarer Hamlin, Connor McGovern, David Edwards, Mitch Trubisky, Brandon Cooks. You know, it's not that bad because they don't have a lot of great players. Like, that's the funny thing, dude. Like, it could be worse, not with this roster, because there's not really that many great players. This is going to be such an important draft for them.
Starting point is 01:06:55 It's insane how important this draft is because if they fumble this draft or next year's draft, you are legitimately going to waste a Hall of Fame talent at quarterback. And I believe in Joe Brady, the offensive mind. I don't know what kind of head coach he is. I think people love Sean McDermott and the whole thing, but it is kind of wild to think about Joe Brady's ascension. I remember it wasn't too long ago. We were watching him call plays in LSU.
Starting point is 01:07:22 At LSU down at that game. And then you end up in, what, Carolina after that. It doesn't go well. you land back on your feet in Buffalo with Josh Allen and here you are head coach in the National Football League Bill's offensive lineman Alex Anderson on Joe Brady quote he wants us to know that we don't have to have our assholes so tight around him all the time
Starting point is 01:07:47 we can go walk around and be our personalities end quote there you go so yeah breath of fresh air while not having to worry about the system being overhauled. And the bills go from former William and Mary safety
Starting point is 01:08:06 to former William and Mary wide receiver. Wow. Whoa, Reed with the Nuggets. Tribe Pride. Chicken Nuggies, dude. And our guy walked into the facility in black t-shirt, black gym shorts, chain hanging out
Starting point is 01:08:24 the t-shirt, sneakers this morning, 12 degrees. That's not nothing. when you Google top defensive coordinator candidates. This is Google. Jim Leonard, wink Martindale. Kind of fun. You think about how you can beat teams when you're kind of talentless.
Starting point is 01:08:46 You blitz the fuck out of them. Brian Flores, but he's staying in Minnesota. Zach Orr. I mean, I don't know. I don't know the feeder system for defensive coordinators. So I'm going to ask Grock. Who should the Bills hire Buffalo Bills hire at defensive coordinator? Bill Belichick, dude.
Starting point is 01:09:09 If they're not going to put them in the fucking Hall of Fame, come out of retirement. You get to play the Patriots twice a year. You like defenses that are, I mean, he's, we were the number one defense, I think, in 2016. I don't think we were that talented. And there's no, there's not enough good players. to be like, oh, we need to build the scheme around this guy or this guy. You could just fucking play
Starting point is 01:09:34 whatever you want. You know, who's without a job is Jim Schwartz. Jim Schwarz. Yeah, Jim Schwartz could end up up there. I thought he might, yeah, well, there's, yeah. Okay, yeah, top reported candidates. Jim Leonard, again, Broncos past game coordinator. Man, they were pretty good. Wonder why. Jim Schwartz former Bill's defensive coordinator Rahim Morris I don't hate the
Starting point is 01:10:05 Rahim Morris thing all right we'll figure this out another day but plenty to talk about plenty to talk about man and I love talking about it
Starting point is 01:10:20 you know best job in the world you love being on the West Coast too can't wait to see you but oh man dude I cannot wait to see you Steve all my best friends in one place. Post-provo
Starting point is 01:10:36 beer for sure, Tuesday. Rosillo texted me. You think Rosillo's going to be up there? Who knows, man. He's probably got to tell. He's just got to tell what the jet when he wants to leave. Tell the jet when to leave. Yeah, he's kind of in that echelon now, huh?
Starting point is 01:10:53 Oh, I think he's, yeah. He's getting that cheddar cheese. I wonder if he could drive his boat up. Yo, it's so funny, dude. I went to a Wizards game recently with Luke. By the way, they were asking when Steve and Scott going to come to a game. So we got to go to a game. They treat you like kings, dude.
Starting point is 01:11:15 The Wizards are the best, man. There's nobody in the stadium right now because they're building. Yeah. So you can get in on the ground floor. I mean, you know, you guys are fine because you're like DC Legends already. But like me, it's a two-hour drive and they kind of treat me like I used to play for the Wizards, man. There you go. awesome, dude. We got to go to a Wizards game. But the president,
Starting point is 01:11:34 winger, yeah, a great guy. Shout out. Also shout out to Chris with the Wizards. You know who you are. Winger went to boat school with Rissillo. Yes. That's how they met. That's how I met Winger. He was eating lunch, uh, and I went to lunch with Rissillo in Manhattan Beach when he was with the Clippers. Is that so good or what? Yeah, boat school. That's so awesome. Um, Last thing, guys. Do you remember the show?
Starting point is 01:12:04 Strange Addictions? No. We need to watch. Bro. I was watching y'all producers. You remember that show, yeah? They're young. Cowboy Reed.
Starting point is 01:12:15 You remember that fucking show. I've never heard of that show. Dog, it's just all people that are addicted to stupid shit. Like, I was watching with the kids last night. This lady was addicted to eating toilet paper. Oh, God. and they had like they staged an intervention it was her mom met her at a diner as like when you're going to stop eating tissue paper supposedly she's eating over 1,200 rolls in her lifetime
Starting point is 01:12:40 she likes the two ply because it's easier to digest I shit you not it's the greatest show of all time guys go on paramount or fucking wherever I think it was amazon prime watch you some strange addiction tonight that's my my parting shot don't don't get you some strange addictions. Just watch it. No, there was a woman that was like eating couch cushions. Oh, come on. Season one eats toilet paper, eats cleanser, eats detergent.
Starting point is 01:13:09 This is back in the golden era of like TV and being alive. This is like the early odds. Early teens. Is that what the kids call it? Early teens. Season one episode 8 is married to a doll. All right. That's time to go.
Starting point is 01:13:28 I can't even say anything. I was so bored last night at 2.30 and morning, not realizing go to bed. And I started watching the group of artists that built an apartment in the Providence Mall on Netflix. What? Oh, people are saying that's legit, though. Oh, yeah. They did it. You can watch whatever you want when your kids have been home for four fucking days.
Starting point is 01:13:53 I was like, what the hell is wrong with you? Is school canceled tomorrow making? We're on to delay Monday. One hour delay tomorrow. They're going back to school. Screw you guys. High five, make. See you.
Starting point is 01:14:10 But more snow on the way. Yeah, we're not getting that snow. We're not getting it. Take care. Love you guys.

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