Green Light with Chris Long - Bills Over Patriots, Bears To Cover & Lions Over | Backdoor Cover with Stanford Steve

Episode Date: December 13, 2025

Will the Patriots win the AFC East? Drake Maye and Josh Allen face off with the Bills needing a win to stay ahead in the Wild Card race. If the Patriots win, they're AFC East champs for the first time since 2019. The fellas go through their picks, highlighting the Bears covering vs the Browns, the Lions over, to name a few. And Steve throws out a few suggestions to fix the College Football playoffs. (00:00) - College Football (12:37) - NFL Week 15 Best Bets Chris: Bears -7, Bills -1, Lions-Rams over 55.5, Packers -2.5, Isaiah Likely over 339.5 receiving yards Steve: Patriots +1, Broncos +3, Lions team total under 24.5, 49ers-Titans under 44.5, Eagles -11.5 Macon: Rams -6, Saints +3, Commanders-Giants over 46.5, Cardinals +9.5, David Montgomery over 8.5 receiving yards HELLO, Locals! Green Light is hosted by Chris Long and is joined weekly by Beau Allen, Nate 'Dr. Fax' Collins, Macon Gunter, Stanford Steve + many more athletes and celebrity guests. Subscribe to get in-depth analysis, instant reactions and team highlights | Presented by BetMGM Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Listen to the Full Episode and check out all our content: https://greenlightpodcast.org/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'll go Phil. Calms. Calmananga! All right. Chris is up. I'll take the Packers. Nice, dude. First off, I think the man I should be commissioner had a great idea this weekend.

That's Rick New Heidel. And he said put all the balls in the beginning of the year. And I thought it was genius. White Steve. Gentlemen, how we doing? Best fucking week ever. But I say that every week. yeah i was a couple of things first weekend at home for your boy so i'm uh pretty fired up really

four months yeah i got one back on the road oh because of college football yeah yeah that whole gig that whole thing sport you love speaking of the college football making yeah what the fuck happened to us. Here's why college sports is Teflon. There is nothing like being in a faraway city. I poured water on my shirt. With people wearing orange and blue.

And from strangers, you're getting your go-hooses and your Wahoo-Waz. And maybe you're playing Dayton at the Spectrum Center at noon. And you mistakenly go to a super sweet and delete approximately 30 beers and it's just the best day ever. And then when your team comes out without that fire required

to get to 11 wins for the first time in program history and a college football playoff, there's a very special kind of hurt that can't be replicated in any other realm of life. So it was sick, man. It was a great fucking day. It was awesome. And as the day went on,

Sunday I realized the gravity of what had happened. You know, Saturday night I was like, yeah, you know, that's, that's just who we are until we aren't anymore, whenever that happens. And then Sunday it hit me as I was watching Selection Sunday and we got our Gator Bowl bid this week. I was like, fuck, man, we really missed a big opportunity. Yeah, it was quite a big opportunity. But you know, Manny Diaz deserves a lot of credit.

He sure does. They had the right game plan. Shorten it. Keep away. And you could feel the pressure when you get the ball and it's like a conversion situation. Like, fuck, what if we don't convert? We're not going to have the ball for another six minutes. It just felt like that kind of game.

And I've already thanked these people on my other shows, but I just want to one more time shout out Grayson and Jeff for getting married last weekend here in Virginia, which kept me from being able to go to Charlotte for that for that ACC championship game because I would have been right there with you. you and I'm not as into the sadness that you described right my counter would be it's that that that sadness that that hurt that pain that you want to throw up sort of feeling uh that makes the the winning all the much sweeter when it does happen where's that tech ticket from a couple years ago that still got dried vomit on it exactly as soon as he i think i was the first person out

of that stadium soon as he picked it off i didn't even say goodbye to my people really yeah like a reverse where'd you go parking lot rush. Straight back to the hotel. I put on Netflix. I ordered room service, just as I did in Chicago in the year 2016 after Virginia lost to Syracuse and the Elite 8.

It went total sports blackout for several days. Would you hit the mini bar? Room service. Oh, no, no. They had booze in the room service? So it was like being at home? Oh, no, I had hit, I was done. Yeah, I was like being at home.

Exactly, Steve. Except with food. Would you order for room service all drunk? Turkey sandwich. in a fruit cup. Shout out to the Weston and Charlotte. But the beds, dude. I don't remember going to bed, but the...

No, it wasn't like that. Yeah. It was like, it was mixing in food all day. People he hadn't seen in decades. Oh, that sounds like a lot of fun, dude. Oh, no, man, it was fun. It was fun. We were at Clutch right near the stadium.

They're at the end. Can I say something? I think stadium drunk is, inside the stadium drunk is one of the worst drunks. Agreed. In being drunk. Well, yeah, I wasn't. Okay. I don't know where Steve stands on that.

Usually he's not drunk when he's inside the stadium. He's working. No, yeah, I'm like petrified of it because there's the old days of going to games where it's like you're just walking in with masses of people. So you don't really remember how to get to your seat. And the exit plan is always way more important. So that's the one benefit of Charlotte. You could walk to your hotel, I'm imagining making it.

That's the duty of that stadium. So, you know, it could take a little bit longer than normal. But like if there's buses or cars or Uber's involved, that's a whole different level. So I've never allowed myself to get. I've seen plenty of people suffer from not knowing the exit plan or strategy. But it's, did you, while the good was as good as it was all day, did you allow yourself to thought that a loss could happen? night. Yeah, for sure. Oh, we, the whole week leading out of new. Yeah. That's, that's, that's,

that's the key. We have that down. We were, we were, I have, I have perfected it because I'm a Mets fan. So like I have my whole life, I've gone into every single game. My team plays expecting to lose. So I, I firmly believe in it because it does help on the backside when that you do lose. I was surprised by a couple of things. I thought Duke was going to play better. I thought Mintsa was going to be better. I thought we'd come out with a different approach. It was very much a play not to lose sort of situation. But no. Do you think about going for two at all? I don't think so. Yeah. I mean, I don't, I don't think you cannot get it and live that decision down because you are in theory, the better team. You've already won three overtime games this year. I think you,

you try to make the game as long as possible. I would probably think about not going trick play on the first drive of the overtime drive, especially when you've been backed up to the 40-yard line? The only concerning part, and I don't know if he's been asked this, but there is a personal foul to end Duke's overtime. Yeah, yeah. But it was not first in 25. It was first in 10 from the 40. Coach Elliott and his postgame said, well, you need to try to get a chunk play there. I don't think you need to get a chunk play when it's first in 10. No, I understand like you're on the outskirts of the shot zone, you know, and that's an interesting way. to take a shot but yeah I'm not my favorite call the momentum swings of overtime and it happened there

was what I worry about because you get the ball you know you have to score watching the game with a uh recently but not anymore NFL office coordinator Virginia completes the first pass at a two minute drill he's like they're going to score no doubt and when you look at on the on the, you know, the end side, that ball, the ball on the three yard line with a chance to win the game, they never got close to having that opportunity in overtime. Now, were they the reason that happened in some sort? Yeah. But the idea, that's the worst case scenario. You score overtime, boom, Duke gets the ball, scores, you're down seven. Personal foul, boom. Like, it just happens so fast that when you look back, that's why I, I've never been to go for two guy, but,

And I get it. There was plenty on the line. But you fought all the way back. And I just wonder if that's the call. I got an idea. We're on to Mizzou. Talk about. Is it still the Taxlayer Bowl?

Taxlare.com. Dot com? Nice. Mild stomping grounds. Evidently, though, they took the hooters at the landing out. I know. So I won't be making the trip to Jacksonville. My kids love the wings.

We made up a drink there for your bowl game. It was tequila with whole milk. What? Yeah, we called it something. Who did? A good group of guys. Not me. No, no, no, you were playing.

Okay. But maybe after the game, though. Yeah, no. Yeah, Jacksonville's lovely. I lied. We might go down. I don't know. We'll see.

Steve. Yo. How can the NCAA fix bowl games? Well, first off, I think the man that should be commissioner had a great idea this weekend. That's Rick Newheisel. And he said put all the bowls at the beginning of the year. I thought that was genius.

The issue that has to happen, Chris, and I thought Joey McGuire brought it out. Plenty of others have. But Joey was the most recent Texas head coach and said, move it all the way up. Move the season to week zero. Everybody plays week zero. So then, you know, if you do have Congress Championship Saturday, that's Thanksgiving week. And then you have the whole month of December. So then you basically could play the national championship on New Year's Day or whenever New Year's Day falls in the calendar.

Because with the portal, it being open the day after the quarterfinals, that's January 2nd to the 16th. Now you're going into the second semester. And I know no one wants to talk about school here. but these guys want to have their new guys as soon as possible. So if you move everything up, nothing bleeds into the second semester. So all your transfer, it's done. And I thought that made a ton of sense where everybody, you know, gets asked of. The problem is the big boys don't want to move right now to next year because the SEC is going to finally play nine conference games.

And they don't want to start with a conference game. The SEC schedule comes out Thursday night. It's already done. So if there's an agreement, I could see that happening in 27, which I think would really help everything. And you still could play your non-conference games. The bowl games could go up there and play in August because all we do in August is beg for football to start. And then with college, now you're two full weeks ahead of the NFL, which is great, in my opinion. You're an only show in town.

Right. You know, no one, especially now with, and that was. I saw less Sneed at the, where did I see? Oh, Texas Ohio State this year. He's got a son that's a walk on at Texas. And he was like, I was like, what's the, you guys really don't play. He's like, we have two weeks off now with the three preseason games. That's when they make the cuts and now you get your roster to fill.

So I was like, even more so college should go. There's nothing going on the NFL for two weeks after the third preseason game. And everybody has their feelings on preseason games anyway. But I think to move it up, is great. The schools that rely on their college students for attendance, I don't think there's many of those, but if you have one home game before school starts, I'm sure they'll find their way or make it advantageous for students to come early. So Bahamas Bowl, August? That's what we're, yeah, on location? It's gone. Oh, it's gone. Okay. Yeah, well, who knows?

I mean, not me. Yeah. I don't care about this shit. I think just simulate it. Simulate the bowl games. Don't actually play them. Yep, simulate them. And then put the Gator Bowl banner in your facility.

Like you went, you get an appearance. You don't have to worry about all the kids opting out. Just simulate the game. Let us know how it went. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast presented by BetMGM. If you haven't signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code Greenlight. And you will get up to a $1,500 first bet offer on your first wager with BetMG. Just download the BetMGM app and sign up using bonus code greenlight.

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It's not going to get it done in this league, dude. There's some hot potatoes in this. Seriously, what are the number? Are we at 35 over 500 now making? 26 plus 8 is 34 games over 500. Shoo. Damn, dude. You talk about, you know, emerging markets and fucking, you know, playing the-

It's probably even better since the AI song. I think if, if you played, if you tailed us, like, like, finance bros don't make as much money as you would make tailing it. You know what I mean? Like we really are like take it to the bank as a group. And if you just, and if you tease them all, you never lose. So then you're like

60 games. Oh, I got some teasers for you boys this week. I got some teasers for you boys this week. Where do we start? Well, let's start with the order. We are rocking. Making Chris then Steve.

In the overall totals right now, Steve 41, 27, and 2, making 40, 28, and 2, and Chris 39 and 31. Still not pushing. Still not pushing. Still not pushing. I don't push.

You're not pushing. It's giving Steve a bit of cushion. He can take the cushion. I'm going to eat the cushion up pretty quickly here in the next three weeks. All right. This is where I really lock in. I'm going to make an AI song about you motherfuckers. I'm surprised that hasn't happened yet.

I'm waiting for the right time. I thought that was coming. All right. Sitting by the fire. You guys ready? Ready as I'll ever be. You're not. I've got a couple things underlined Steve here.

A couple? Yeah. I have 25 things right now. I have some questions when the games get selected. Okay. All right. This line's too big, right? Wrong.

L.A. Rams at home. minus six against Detroit. Wow. I did not see that as the first pick. None taken? That's like a 3523 right there. FYI. Give me the Bears.

Careful with me? Yeah. Against your Browns? Why? You have the Browns every week? You know, this is, they're never going to be higher. Really? Yeah.

They just lost in the national window. Seven and a half points, though? They're playing. Yeah, I know that's what everybody's saying. It's going to be chilly? That's what everybody's saying. They can run the ball. Titans ran the ball in the Browns last week.

They got a better secondary than the Titans. Everybody's thinking, oh, the Browns are like a wagon now. They're not a wagon. They played the Titans, and they had 17 points going in like the fourth quarter. So give me the Bears. You think Fanon's got a shot for offensive rookie there? What does it go? Dart, not in order Dart, McMillan, Fanon. You can't give it to a quarterback that doesn't win?

Yes. QB wins. You're a QB wins guy. I mean, you've got to be better. He shouldn't even be starting. That's the other. I know, but there's also, yeah, James should. There's also a lot of. I mean, that Eagles win doesn't look as great now, does it?

Well, they didn't have Jalen Carter in that game. That was a lot of it. I mean, the Eagles, no Eagles win looks as good now, does it? I mean, you know. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But that's not really why. I don't think that's why. At that point, they had a forward deck.

A more worthy candidate? I don't know. Like, is it best player? If it's best player, it might be a guy. I thought it was a Buka from the start, but he's got a primetime window coming up. I think that's what it's going to come down to. And his quarterback's hurt. I really do believe that.

I think Baker's spraying the ball. We've been saying that for six weeks. You know, we sold him high. Yeah. You know, he's got his foot in the door, is that Menangai? Manungai, yeah, yeah, pretty good. Right now, Tett McMillan is a leader at minus 160, then Jackson Dart plus 225.

Bigboo at plus 600 and Tyler Warren plus 700. Fanon plus 4,000. And his teammate Junkins right behind him at plus 5,000. Quinshawn. And Mika, a Big Bo. That's not even close. I got two. Sure.

Easy, Steve. Easy Pepper. I'm taking the Patriots and I'm taking the Broncos. Oh, I love this. This is going to be great. You wish you had a couple of picks back to back, don't you? I really don't give a fuck what you do. I just want this.

Oh, that wasn't. No, I thought I was being rude to leave. No. Oh, I thought you looked at me. I thought, I think you wanted to be on the opposite sides of both of those. I know, but I thought you were looking at me and saying, I'm going to take your picks. Oh, no, maybe. Yeah, he's going to show you that he liked the pick.

And because I made that remark, now he's going to take the pick. Well, it's your pick. Oh, is it? Yeah, buddy boy. I'll go bills. Fuck! Fuck! Cowbs!

Cowboy! He did call that. I knew he's I yeah he called that little covetous face what about my face covetous it's covet it's covet

you were you were coveting and you gave it away by saying yeah you can see it a mile away dude well at least I have the best pick on the board you do yeah why didn't you take it first

on the board oh remaining yeah the remaining would be the adjective Give me the New Orleans Saints Plus two and a half points at home Oh yeah, you're You're gonna get disappointed

Am I? Yeah, short prints You were just in his house last week Yeah, he ain't going to be in his house No, I know, but that's his house You should know better Yeah, well I went bathroom in his house You went to the bat number one or two?

Well, number one, but I still went bathroom Golly Oh, damn Damn. Like that Buffalo side. Yeah, the Buffalo side's a banger, dude. Take their over. Time to restore a little order.

You know what Drake May said this week? What's that? He's the best in the game. That's what he said about Josh Allen. Now, I know he might be being humble because maybe Drake Mays played the best this year, along with Matthew Stafford, but the fact that he didn't say Matthew Stafford or Patrick Mahomes

tells you a lot. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's your favorite quarterback's favorite quarterback. Mm-hmm. Cubs? Mm-hmm. Give me the over at MetLife.

That's Washington and New York Giants. That number's 46.5. Critical number. Critical number. Critical number. Lowest ticket in MetLife history. I'm here. Oh, that's a mistake.

This is about to be the rivalry of the NFC East within a year. Yeah, get ready. Giants are sick. They're close to me. Need medicine? Oh, come on, guys. No, they will be sick. They've had bad luck.

They could have easily been six and ten this year. Who do you want as the head bowl coach next year? 17 games. Or whatever the fuck it is. I don't care. Marcus Freeman. Halfly. Actually, anybody but Marcus Freeman, I think.

It's going to be halfway. But at least when Marcus Freeman, Freeman, when you guys miss the playoffs, he can be like, whoa, I don't want to go anyway. Don't let them talk about your team like that, Steve. Dude, Notre Dame, please, bro. Not my team. Your team sometimes. Is it me?

Yurt. Hmm. I'm in no rush. Take your time. Let's see if I have any stories from Charlotte. Do you have any interactions with the Duke crab? Any Duke fans? No.

proud of proud of our who's it was about four to one and uh there are no real duke football fans the duke football fans actually went to the school unlike the basketball fans um so no they're they were fine good yeah there was i guess uh there was a bus that came back to the team hotel and there were duke fans there chirping at the folks coming off yeah give me the over in l a 55 and a half. 55. Which is one. As of earlier,

unless I'm just... 55 and a half? The chargers or the ramps? Well, he said in an L.A., man. There's only one in L.A. I'll take it anyways. He gives a fuck. Come on, Steve.

Come on, Steve. Chris would call you intellectually dishonest right now. Lions under 24.5 points. I'll be damned. That's because I said they were going to score 23. Steve riding that ass. Steve's, me and him are pretty oppo. Yo, take Denver.

Is it, is it, uh, no, take Green Bay. Is it me? Not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet. Not yet. Is that count as a under? What the fuck? First time talking there, Steve, huh? No, just like,

that's a wild card. That's not a wild card, right? That is a wild card. Team Cuddle is a wild card. wild card no you're all one wild card doing this four years fuck all right chris is up i'll take the packers nice dude i'm sorry steve you know this is a key week for me and steve you're all are gonna go one and one against each other be in the same place is there five four o'clock games this week yes is that one of them fucking fucking favorites i need a team total under do you know what i haven't done this week

What's that? Looked at NFL weather. Chili. Yeah, chilly. Wind chilly. A snow game. Steve, why didn't you take the Dallas over? Did you stop at the by week?

Or you're starting to actually look at it? I still have a pick left. Oh. Bitch. Mm. Talk to them. Spicy. Talk to them.

No one's going to touch the game of the week? I'm not. What's the game of the week? Colts at Seahawks. That is the game of the week. I think a fun prop would be Philip Rivers over passes. I stared long and hard at that. What is it?

It's like in the high 20s or, you know, they're going to, they're going to feed that guy to the wolves, man. They're not going to start him. I think they're going to start him. He said Riley Leonard was full go the last two days. Was he? Right now, Philip Rivers' passing attempts is, 28 and a half.

So what happens? He doesn't play, it's a no bet. It's a void. In our pool, it's a loss. Well, if he doesn't play, it's a no game. I'm not even looking at it. So the NFL should probably mandate that he plays in this game because nobody came to see Riley Leonard.

No disrespect to the young man. I was going to say, Riley Leonard is the least talked about guy ever making his first NFL start. Give me the Arizona Cardinals plus 10 points at Houston. No, it's nine and a half on the, it's nine and a half in the thing. No dick. No dick. in the dock it's 10 the dock we used to prepare for the show and that changes

correct you what time do you print that off what time do you print that off does he have to go to kinkos to use the printer i've access to like two printers steve you idiot how's the kitchen ready for christmas dinner i i've i i i we're getting there all right progress buddy as long as you're not going back And nobody lied like about a blueprint or something like that. You're good. Oh, we didn't have any blueprints. No problem there.

How was the van driving down to Charlotte? Dan's no more. I had a great ride. Right back. Did you take a private plane and you just won't say it? Come on, man. You're saving that private flame. Who's up?

San Francisco. Making for a fuck. Oh, my back. y'all my bad. You're filibustering. No, I did it Chris. I got it right here. Yeah. David Montgomery. Montgomery.

Over 8.5 receiving yards. Yeah, why don't you go ahead and check it? No, because the kicker likes minus 200. And I could have tried to trick dick y'all on that, but I'm not like that I have integrity. David Fleemakie. Montgomery. Over eight and a half receiving yards. It's just like, it's just like. Oh, it just bumped up.

Manunga! Is it now 25 receiving yards, Calbs, or is that okay? Eight and a half. Okay. Nails. Reed, do I have to take a total? No. Total or stop?

Okay, Steve? All right, good. Chris Christarverson. You know, maybe you guys can help me with this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's Isaiah Likely's yardage prop? This is so stupid. I need to just pick a team total.

I fucking hate prop. It's a dumb suggestion by me. I think I'm like two and whatever. You say receiving yards? Yeah, sure. 41 and a half. Oh, that's a lot, but it is the Bengals. Oh, well, he's in here twice on the Bed MGM app at 41.5 and 39 and a half.

I'll take him at 39 and a half. If that's 40 or 41, the clip's going to go viral. Well, like the giant. Chris is up. God, this is stupid. I shouldn't be doing that. Now it's you. It's you.

I likely. Oh, he did take likely? All right. No, you got that in. Since I cannot take a winner, I'll give it to the people, James Cook under 75 rushing yards. That's a winner. I'm going to lay it. I'll lay the 11 and a half with the Eagles.

Hold your nose. knows. Half points. Half points. Half points. Uh, half points. Well, I guess I'll get a full, I'll take a full point on Detroit and the Rams. No, I'll do a push. Who gives a fuck about a push, huh? Denver to three for Steve. These pushes really pay off for you guys, huh? They can. Keep pushing. You really screwed me up there, Calves. Sorry. Golly. I'll take the Saints three please i'll take the bears to so would you say that's the playmaking bears to seven you're the math guy buffalo's not winning by one they're gonna just win they're just gonna win um yeah or packers to two this fucking sucks yeah i do bears bears bears to seven i see turnovers seven point

Wait, what do you do? Picture this. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Am I in Chicago? Yeah, we're in Chicago. Picture this. 23 to 13. Hmm.

That's a cover. It's a cover in and under. All right. Macon, Rams minus 6, Saints, plus 3, Washington, New York, over 46.5, Arizona, plus 9.5, and David Montgomery, over 8.5%. receiving guards. Be a 5-0 player. Chris, Chicago minus 7,

Buffalo minus 1, Detroit, L.A. Rams over 55. And a half. Green Bay minus 2.5. And Isaiah likely receiving guards over 39.

5. Steve, New England plus 1, 10 plus 3. Detroit team total under 24. A half. San Francisco, Tennessee,

under 5. 5. Philadelphia minus 11. Ofer, you dumb, Ben? Damn, you had over 5, brothers.

This week, bro, you're going down this week. The other winning this game, 2316. Fucking San Francisco and Tennessee is going to be a shootout. Detroit going to eat them corners up. Picture this. Penae Sewell, big rigatoni Sewell out on the edge, speed bump in Emmanuel Forbes. Just body parts everywhere.

I knew I should have wore my late in her jersey today. wouldn't care i'm over it it's a great thing about me i don't you know i'm not going to dwell anymore any other notes on that notepad from the trip to charlotte i know those are underlined i didn't make any notes steve look at this look at this you know where the i peeped in the bathroom steve do you know where the memories from that trip reside

in my heart player i don't need to write them down and does it hurt yeah it hurts my heart some people say you don't even have a heart hey man hey you know what I was I was a man in the arena and shit clear eyes and whatever and thankful for the opportunity

you know yeah did you dress warm enough or were you freaking yeah no no no lots of layers remember that uh remember we were here we were in this studio I guess before the Notre Dame game Steve and I had that

that full zip that's a real lightweight but you said to me Steve Steve you said you said no that's that's real warm and I've never forgotten that and so that was one of my layers let's wrap this up shall we happy hunting fellas hey happy hunting shout out Clark Lee love you guys love you