Green Light with Chris Long - Bobby Wagner! Being His Own Agent & Signing in LA. Washington Commanders, Baker Mayfield, Derek Carr & Deebo Samuel? NBA Playoffs All-Vibes.

Episode Date: April 15, 2022

(2:30) - Hello, Layup Line, National Dolphin Day and Preparing Chris and Macon to be hit by Golf Balls. (12:03) - Reid Around the World: Washington Commanders in Legal Hot Water, Deebo Samuel Rumored to be on the Trading Block, Baker Mayfield’s Comments Regarding his Last Month in Cleveland, Derek Carr Extended and USFL Mascots. (49:45) - NBA Playoffs All Vibes Draft. (1:12:23) - Bobby Wagner on his time with the Seahawks, Signing with the Rams, Representing Himself and Preparing the Rams to Repeat. (1:40:25) - Chris and Dr. Fax on Mall Santa vs Mall Easter Bunny. (1:50:15) - Chris and Dr. Fax Talk NFL Draft, Presented by Coors Light: Free Gifts for Invited Players, Getting to your New Team and Picking Out Your Jersey Number. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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In Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey, and Virginia call 1-800 gambler. And in Michigan, 1-800-2707-1-17. Y'all too. 1-800-8-9-9-7-89. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. Oh, boy. Brand new L.A. Ram Bobby Wagner joins us today. It's a great conversation about football, a little bit of pool sharking,

and Bobby explains why he represents himself in his contract negotiations. Early in the show today, Chris covers the Washington football team's legal issues, the Debo Samuel Rumor Mill, Baker Mayfield's recent comments, Derek Carr's extension and USFL mascots. Then we dive into the NBA playoff All Vibs draft with Chris making and Matt. After Bobby, Chris and Dr. Fax talk the NFL draft, tell a couple more stories and talk what these top picks can expect when they get to their new teams.

Enjoy the show, folks. Just a little update for everybody. Tomorrow, we will be waltzing out onto a golf course and getting fucking pelted by golf balls from 150 yards away. Is that what you all settled on? Yeah, about 100. We've got a good spot for you guys. A little dance floor for you guys a run around on.

Golf balls will be falling from the heavens. Got to be quick on your feet. Hey. Oh, you've got to be quicker than that. Golf balls are going to be falling from hell, Reed. I'm going to sue you to Kingdom Come. I'm going to sue you so fucking hard read. We're just going to be lawyering up.

Hit me in my shin. Find out. Kyle, too. Kyle's going to be out there. He loves showing off his golf swing. He loves putting the phone down on the ground and putting it right behind his big old gastrocks and showing how he turns into that three wood

and fucking tomorrow's going to be it's going to be ugly for me and you. How many balls will there be? Yeah, that's the question. There will be a total of give or take 400. That number keeps growing, dude. I heard 150 earlier. 150, then it was 240.

So we're going to be out there for five minutes. Five minutes. We just got to make sure. We got to make sure we have enough balls. We cannot run out of golf balls. 150 yards, isn't that like... How many balls per minute is that? How many BPM is that for these guys?

Is that like a nine iron? Yeah, eight, nine iron. Oh, you can't hit that flat. Are you going to be trying to... What's it called skull? Are you trying to be sculling a three wood or what? I'm not going to be trying to skull a three wood. Kyle is.

I'm sure some people... Oh, Kyle. Oh, I love golf. I'm so good at it. I couldn't... We'll see if you win my golf turn. Meanwhile, Kyle finished 35 over par. and Masters Calcutta.

Yeah, a guy doesn't know golf. Who to you? You know who is? You picked the same teams. But yeah, so five minutes. Can I negotiate that down to four? No. I won as well.

So I make the decisions here, too. That's good, Reed. That's good. And just lawyer up, buddy. Because I'm going to have, we got shin guards. Needed the shing guards. We got a cup. I think, like, maybe Reed got us, like, a catcher's protector for, like, our sternum.

If you've ever had a sternum injury. Is that right? suck. Yeah, you guys have catchers, uh, chest protectors. You fucking suck at golf, Reed. You suck at golf. You're not going to fucking be able to hit me. Fuck around and find out. Yeah, we're not, you're not going to be able to hit me, bro. I'm going to be dropping so. You're going to be trying all those fucking late nights here at the studio. This is, Reed's got such an erection for this activity. I could hit you from 250 yards. Well, why don't we move it back and you can prove it? All right. Sweet, I'll pull out my driver from

250 yards and peg a couple at you. No problem. No problem. So guys, that's going to be tomorrow. We have a golf course that we don't want to say like where we're going. Like we don't want to tell people where the golf course is because I think there's probably rules against this for liability's sake and that sort of thing.

Yeah. By the time you're hearing this podcast if you own a golf course, we could be on yours. Like creating all types of liability issues. Reed, you suck at golf. Kyle, you suck at golf. Matt definitely sucks a golf.

Taylor sucks a golf. Fuck everybody that's out there. they're hitting the balls, try to, try to hit us. How big is the area? Have we, we settled on that? You've got like a 20 by 20 by 20, 20 yard or 20 feet by 20 feet? 20 yard by 20 yard, bro. Come on, we never, we never nailed that down.

I'm bringing a golf club with me out to the middle of the range. I'm hitting back, bitch. You better put on a helmet. You finish at 35 over par in our master's Calcutta. You're not allowed. Well, who won the thing? What did I finish in? What did I finish in?

finished tie, but you didn't have to know a squatter. That's why I'm out there. That's why I'm out there because you won. Thanks. Yeah, no problem, buddy. So that's what happens when you do a Calcutta with stakes. I knew that inevitably I'd have to take one for the team. What's your strategy tomorrow? Are you going to just zigzag? No, I think I'm going to stand still and not get hit, respectfully. You're going to stand still and not get hit. Yeah. I'm going to stand. I'm like, pick up game guys. I'll stand erect. Is that how you say it? Yeah, you stand erect. I'll stand in front of you. Okay.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Hey. Oh, man. Oh, no. All good.

National. Dolphin Day. It is. It is. We tried to watch Flipper earlier for five minutes. That show fucking sucks, dude. Now, I'm not a big drug guy. I can see where drugs might come in.

Yo, I'll tell you how that goes. Because I might make that a thing, dude. Yeah. People back in the day watched some really shitty TV. Well, the actors are really good because clearly they're acting into a, just a body of water. Yeah, there's no. And there's a ton of Flipper Dolphin B-roll that they splice into that. And the one episode we watched, Flipper was trying to tell them something.

This show is so overrated. He's turned to, as our dolphins. I wouldn't. I'm not going that far. The one, the little kid actor, really good. Okay. Compelling. And I think Flipper was trying to take him to another part of the old.

ocean to tell them something, but we, we talked out after. Were there any scenes in Flipper where the dolphins push people into deeper water, jerk their heads, uh, bit people causing broken bones, skin abrasions or other injuries, uh, as have been reported in real life, uh, when it comes to direct contact with, uh, humans and dolphins. Does Flipper rape? Because that's what real dolphins do. The real dolphins sexually assault. Well, people and other dolphins. Flipper had disappeared in this episode for a couple of days and the young boy was upset with Flipper

that he had not told him where he was going. I just think that we should cancel National Dolphin Day. Also, some more facts about dolphins. They're really susceptible to noise pollution, which is a real thing. Like, evidently there's a lot of noise pollution for dolphins like in the Virgin Islands. And it's driving them away because they can't take the noise.

And neither can the dolphins, three and five on the road last year, and two is numbers. not as efficient either. They do swim fast. 30 miles per hour. It's a fast team down there. And bottle-nosed dolphins can turn off half their brains. Dolphins Twitter can turn off their entire brain.

They do it every day. So I think National Dolphin Day, maybe that animal doesn't deserve a day. The thing I mentioned about the whole sexual assault thing. They're social and intelligent mammals of the water. Sure, human beings. Of the water. And we are the fucking worst. They're the humans of the water.

You know, you got devil horns on two and on now. I'm not worried about it. Okay, expect us. Devil is a lie. I'm going to expecting you motherfuckers. Happy National Dolphin Day to everybody. And Dolphins Twitter. Laredo, Texas.

Hello! Oh, Laredo. Don't let her go. Just take her by the whole. hard let the wheels turn slow Chris Cagle Chris Cagle

Hell yeah but Chris Cagle's not going to be layup line today at all because it's Chris Stapleton's birthday your today our tomorrow happy happy birthday to Chris Stapleton

one of the goats before it's all of a sudden done he's going to be one of the goats I mean he already is to me also happy birthday Loretta Lynn is from the same Kentucky County

what was the name of that Johnson Johnson Johnson Johnson Johnson Johnson County and that's where Tyler Childers is from as well. That is a something something in the water there dude. Yeah. Yeah. There's something in the water there. Blue grass. There's something in the water. What's your favorite? What's your favorite Chris Tableton song? So I was like man, let me not pick something so chalky. I, you know, like if I was going to play a layup line appropriate Chris Daibleton song, have we done second one to know yet? We've not.

That's one of my favorites. Second one to know is is one of my favorites. I always mentioned this. Fletcher Cox and I used to listen Death Row before games, so that's one of my favorites but I'm not going to put you guys asleep before the pot. It's a little bit slower pace. I mean, fuck, he did a Metallica cover recently. We talked about on this pot. He can do pretty much anything. My kids love his music, the whole thing.

So I love Chris Stapleton. Abraham Lincoln died on April the 15th. But other than that, how was the show, Mrs. Lincoln? Okay. All right. Well, I mean, he did. That's the day he died. Yeah, Reed killed him.

April 15th. Yeah. Where was Reed? April 15th. 18. Something. Yeah, I was going to go with 70. Fuck.

I guess I should have figured that out. The Civil War and everything. Well, he didn't, you know, he didn't die in the Civil War. No, I know. I'm just thinking like contextually. This is you taking an opportunity to dunk on someone who didn't infer anything of the sort. I think it's just kind of, that's, that's my shstick. here. Yeah, smart guy stick.

And I, no, I know, no, no. It's a big facade a little bit sometime. You know, the pollen's out. Oh. It doesn't really affect me. Yeah, the pollen affects me. Uh, a couple of tissues. Okay, are we on from death dates to sports and stuff? Oh, yeah. Okay, cool. Reed, we have read around the world today.

Uh, this is two in a row. This is becoming like a Carmen San Diego thing. Reed, what are the headlines globally? I love Carmen San Diego. Where the fuck is she? Right, exactly. She's hard to find. Oh, that's what that's, who's on first?

What's on second? That's right. I don't remember much of this thing. Albert, Albert, Abbott and Costello. Yeah, who's on first? That's right. Guys name's who. Oh, okay.

Gone first? I'm lost. I'm not, remember I'm not smart. That's right. Second. We've got the Washington football commanders. They're stuck in a controversy about ticket sales and not giving the proper amount back to the NFL and their other teams. Could this be the thing that finally

sinks Dan Snyder? So I think it might be. I think it might be. I think it is. And I think, it says a lot about the NFL. I think that the NFL is like a mafia, dude, because here's the deal. And the mafia, they don't respect any rules. You can do all types of fucked up shit. All due respect to the mafia. I don't want to end up dead, but I'm not stealing from the mafia, so I'm probably not going to end up dead. He sleeps with the fishes. I don't want to. want to sleep with the fishes, but the NFL is like a mafia. Like because all this terrible stuff that Dan Snyder and the Washington football team and formerly the Redskins have been, um, investigated for and like whether you have dozens

of employees alleging like workplace misconduct, a really poor culture, uh, harassment, like, they've survived all that. I mean, like we just got done with hearing from dozens of people that worked in that building. and now it's this, it's stealing from other rich guys is probably going to ultimately get Dan Snyder clipped. And I think that that says a lot about the NFL. It really does remind me of,

you used the word earlier when I posited that kind of remind me of a mafia and you use the word. Yeah, it's like a crime syndicate. It's like, I think Goomba is like a side piece in the mafia. Karen, uh, Philipelli. Gabba ghul.

Yeah, but yeah, dollars and cents get involved. That's problematic for Dan Snyder. Yeah, when you're stealing from the other owners, they've had enough. I mean, like, Jerry Richardson got clipped for, you know, a lot less than Dan Snyder's. Listen, Jerry Richardson did a lot less than Dan Snyder did, and he wasn't able to survive it. That was relatively swift. I think this is the thing that might finally get Dan Snyder. And I hope so, dude.

I'm tired of this bullshit. I played in the NFL. I hate, you know, that kind of association with our league and with the, you know, people assuming that's what culture is like in the NFL every, every place it's not. They're fucked up over there. They've been fucked up over there. And no amount of, hey, we renamed our team. Hey, we're doing this for diversity. Hey, Adam Schaefter being fed a tweet carrying Washington's water. You know, look at this other hire. We did. We hired another female. Well, how about all the other females that were working in the building and hated the, experience the last, you know, 15, 20 years. How about the cheerleaders?

How about all that? Like, I don't want to read your tweets. They need new ownership is what they need. And the NFL is in a funky spot because even if they do the right thing, I'm going to call them the mafia, dude. Like, that's the way I feel about NFL ownership. And if we ever do a raise for Greenlight Pot, I'm assuming we don't get any owners, probably in that capital raise as a result.

to this segment, but I don't really care. Let's sell the podcast, make a lot of money. I don't think we're there yet. I think we're there, but like it's all relative. Okay. Yeah. The Washington Gumbas. The Washington Gumbas.

Okay. Debo Samuel is in the news. There are reports that he could be on the trading block. The San Francisco 49ers aren't ready to commit to an extension. So we'll see where he goes. Could he be traded in the next couple weeks? The thing to realize this spring is that public enemies number one and two for the NFL and for NFL and for NFL teams are in this order,

Trent Balke and social media. Like first it's Trump Alki because he caused all this. Like, you know, that legitimately Christian Kirk for a day, every receiver hated him. And then like day two, they realized that they could all get paid in this thing. and the way to do it is to go on social media and unfollow your team and, you know, let the world know that you want out. Um, fuck, dude.

It's just, I totally hear where Debo's coming from. It's not even like he's two years early, right? He's up, you know, he wants a new deal. And he's seen his teammates get new deals in the past, albeit they've had to wait until, you know, July or August or whatever with Kittle coming off a Super Bowl year. They've paid Trent in the past. They've paid use check. they pay their players but at their pace.

And, you know, I've read this week that, like, historically they do X, Y, and Z. We're like, okay, let's evaluate this team right now. Who made plays for you when you needed them and gave you a, you know, a playoff win this past year in the snow up in Green Bay when you out dueled Aaron Rogers in that kind of a slug fest. Like, it was him. He helped in special teams. He helped in the passing game with big conversions.

He helped in the run game. He's Tayson Hill. He's a real taste of Hill. you know if tason hill became a publicly tradable entity like and went public like that's what a real tasem hill looks like where there's real value 25 million dollars a year worth of value capital raises IPOs yeah watching billions no i haven't been watching billions i've never seen billions pretty good was what's very good okay so i would say debo is worth that and more because he's more than one player I mean, like he's legitimately more than one player on your team.

I just talked about what he did and, you know, pick a game last year and go look at how he affected the game. It's not just in the passing game. He's more than one player. He fits really well with what they do. And I understand that you're in a tough spot as the Niners because you've got to deal with the Jimmy G thing, which by the way, like, maybe if you never drafted Tray Lansson that's an all the universe, you'd get him to take a haircut, run it back and try to win a Super Bowl. Because that's where I think they are, even with the flaws that they're. have under center is like their window is open. They also have to pay Nick Bosa in a year. So it's complicated for them. The money's complicated for them. But I know this, that if you're trying to

trade Debo Samuel, you better get a move on. You can't wait until August and play this thing out because you'll be playing musical chairs and you won't have a chair when it comes to the trade market for a wide receiver. There will always be a market for Debo Samuel. But maybe the most eager teams really want to get somebody on their books to throw the ball to. You've got guys from his draft class matter of fact his round i think that are all talked about as being you know tradable commodities this off season like a j brown he's been talked about uh you know obviously dk metcalf's been talked about enough i'm dk metcap by the way you know if i'm the seahawks and i want like do it now dude because he's not at the top of the list in that group in my opinion he might

be three okay yeah and i'm not taking a shot at him you know because lord knows if i say anything if I, you know, but for me it goes, you know, Debo, AJ, DK, as far as like, if I was looking, depending on the offense, I'm running, the guys that I would be after now. Is Scary Terry in that list? Scary Terry's on the list. Like I had heard yesterday and I didn't know this that he's kind of been, there have been trade rumors swirling around him. So you have all these dudes that are going to be moved.

Like, if these dudes get moved, they're not going to be making another move, these teams that are acquiring these wide receivers. So I would love to see Debo end up. if he's going to be traded on a team that can use him in all three ways. And any team could use him in all three ways, but I think the coordinator is something that I'm curious about if I'm a Debo Samuel fan. I think Philly's my favorite spot.

And I'm not even being a homer here. Like I really am not. Like if you're going to trade him, if I'm the Philadelphia Eagles, Howie Roseman's been on a tear, dude. He's been like Dan Marley and NBA Jam. He's like totally on a heater. And this is the type of move that I could say,

see him making. Like this is a win now move. It's a move that would give you the ability to more properly evaluate your quarterback in Jalen Hertz. And I know I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth with Jalen Hertz and Tua and being on prove it deals and like shipping them more weaponry. I think I take Jalen over Tua and Jalen, you know, even for some of his deficiencies has proved that he gives you a fighting chance in different areas of the game. Debo would fit really well into that offense. He really would. And I think people in Philly would have. I absolutely love him. So I don't know if he's gonna get moved.

This could just be much to do about nothing, but I think it's such an interesting game now. And it started with Jacksonville. I mean, like nobody saw this coming, but I totally see where Debo's coming from. Yeah, if I'm Philly, I would definitely trade a first round pick from because like going into the draft,

there's so much uncertainty, even with a first round pick at wide receiver. Jalen Rieger. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, they just did this. They just put this. And on the other side, if you're so, San Francisco, you're looking at this and saying, well, we kind of did this with,

we chose a young player over an older player when it came to Buckner and they've shipped him to Indy. And then they replaced him with Kenlaw. Now, they knew they wouldn't be getting a second Buckner, but still, Kenlaw hasn't been the same guy for them. Now, what they did have there was another guy. They had another guy in Armstead who's been really good. And that's paid off. And they look good for that, keeping him. He played a big role for them down the stretch last year. what they don't have I don't know what they think about Iyuk but maybe they think they have another guy

maybe you know that kind of slow start in the relationship with Iyuk and Shanahan is actually you know turned into something where they think he can pick up a little bit of slack maybe they're in love with a wide receiver in the first round this class is deeper and not as top heavy so I wouldn't think that if you're after a wide receiver you'd have to go trade with somebody

like the Jets to get a top 10 pick I think you could be middle of the first round and get some value. And I understand value. I understand the fact that like, well, Debo's had one good year. That's what people say. I don't think that's true. He had one all pro year. Year one was very promising for him. Year two, he was hurt. Generally, when people get hurt, when young players get hurt, you want to see if they can come out of that. And he came out of that one was awesome. So I have no doubts that Debo Samuel is going to be the type of player, if you use him correctly, that he was in San Francisco. but I don't know if he ends up in New York with the Jets or something

if he's going to be able to live up to that value just because of the surroundings which would suck as a football fan and that's essentially what I'm what I said about Tyree Kill but I don't think there's a Twitter for Zach Wilson I don't think there's a Zach Wilson hive not one that he can scrub even no as Debo no as with the Niners explain it to me like I'm five yeah can I unload Jimmy even if it's for pennies on the dollar and take my shot with Trey Lance Lance. I mean, it sounds like what they're saying

is Trey Lansis isn't the guy. That's what I've been saying is like a lot of what they're not doing or what they're doing kind of tells me how they feel at this juncture about Trey Lans and for a team with a window it's kind of like, fuck, dude, we could win a Super Bowl over the next couple of years.

We've been right there. We were throw away. But without Debo Samuel? Because I mean, Jimmy G, game manager, whatever, cliche. But if he doesn't have that weapon... I think that's tough to replace. And I understand the fact

that if you hit on a wide receiver in the first round you could be paying him you could have him for five years and you could have him for an option and you'd have him cheaper than Debo Samuel for one year but like if you let him walk he is a unicorn dude it's pretty fucking risky

now the only other side of this is that San Francisco doesn't have any picks like they don't have any picks until the 60 first pick so everybody's needs are so different in the NFL and San Francisco is a perfect example of like having really unique needs in a really unique situation and a unique situation with a quarterback who's on his way out the door and you can't keep him there he's not going to come back and take a pay cut

is there anybody who would is there another quarterback out there who would well it's a segue little segue we got baker mayfield news he was on a podcast and talk about his trials and tribulations over the last month or so with the qb controversy in cleveland in this next season where could He goes somewhere else. I don't think he's staying in Cleveland. I don't think he's staying in Cleveland. You know, there was that whole podcast thing. It's like, number one, do I have to have an opinion about Baker may feel going on a podcast?

Like, I feel like that's what sports media has become. It's like the media just feeds into the media. Like, we've just created stories for ourselves. And I'm glad we're doing it. Human centipede. Yeah, it's the human centipede of sports media. And Baker goes on a podcast and they ask him how he feels about things. Of course, he feels betrayed on some level.

like any player would, but at the end of the day, like, there is context that led us here, and it's the player's responsibility to kind of know realistically how this business works. And it's also like up to the player whether or not they want to complain out loud. Like, I'm totally all for Baker speaking as mine, but I think Baker should also know that this is the way the NFL's works since the beginning of time. Like, they're always looking to replace you. But on the other end of things, I get it. Like, I've been in that situation.

I don't want to compare myself to Baker. I'm just saying, like, I've been in that situation where I've been hurt and I said, I'm gonna go stick it out of the team and I think probably more hurt than Baker was like I could barely run like Part of the time was on the field, but you're doing it to be to be you know a hero the locker room's gonna respect you You know you're afraid to lose your spot You know all that stuff you don't want to let the fans down and I think for Baker he's at different points in his young career in Cleveland had like a really he's had an really interesting relationship with that with that market like he was really good his rookie year he took him the playoffs he's had ups and downs but these these these these these These fans were starving for an adequate quarterback for a long time. And I do think Baker is a respectable quarterback.

He just leaves you wanting a lot more. And last year's performance really mars like his image in my opinion, which kind of sucks. It was a big year for him, but he chose to play hurt. And my advice to a player in the NFL who has the luxury to not play hurt is don't. Because teams will always fuck you over. Teams will always remove that from the context of the situation when it's time to evaluate. Like they'll tell you we won't hold it against you go out there give it a try but they always will it happened to me in St. Louis And Baker as a quarterback like heavy as the head that wears the crown so you can't be out there not playing that well and expect them not to want to go

grab one of those guys that can can change the entire trajectory of a franchise Even if he has 22 civil cases on his head, which I think really adds insult to injury for Baker so when he says like Like, you know, you should feel bad for me. If you take the money out of the equation, as an NFL player, I kind of do feel bad for Baker sometimes. And we've piled on, but the reality is this is the way it goes. This is a perfect example of why being an athlete is kind of tough. Okay, like, and I know people at home are like, well, he's owed $18.7 million a shit.

That's fine. Okay. But Baker Mayfield will always be Baker Mayfield to you and your friends walking down the street the rest of his life. So, like, wherever he goes, he's Baker Mayfield, the football player, and whatever stigma he leaves in Cleveland, stays there in a major metropolitan city. Like, there is a tradeoff to being a player,

and the tradeoff is kind of being hated and nobody feeling bad for you. Even in situations where, objectively, I should feel bad for the player, like this one. You know, he played hurt. He actually has been decent in Cleveland at different junctures. The expectation, the starvation for winning has been so high that it's going to be hard for him to please everybody. And then he gets replaced by a guy who's got 22 civil cases on his head.

So it's just, it's a shit sandwich for Baker, but he's got to eat it. And I think if I'm Baker and I'm not Baker, and again, this is coming from a place of like pulling for Baker, because I would like to see him turn it around. That 18.7 number is going to keep you from starting for a football team next year. Like I really do believe, and I don't want to play with anybody else's money here, and I've made a lot of money as a player, so it's hard for me to imagine,

but I think he's also pretty well taken care of. If he really believes in himself, he's going to make more money down the line in his career. If he's got something to prove, he's going to want to just get in the door and get an opportunity. If those two things are true and you have enough money to hold you over,

you got that stadium commercial money. Progressive? Progressive. That's what I said. Good job. Baker is going to be really good off the field making money the rest of his life. I mean, he could go to go to Oklahoma.

and fucking he could just show up to an oil guy's house and make a million dollars and i want to exaggerate by knocking on the door just hey baker mayfield here here's you know a barrel of crude oil forth a million dollars like that's what happens that's what he would be given yeah okay yeah he's like do i have to convert this to cryptocurrency yeah but he's going to be good man all i'm saying and i don't want to play with anybody else's money but like how about baker in san francisco if they find a way to move Jimmy G. And he bought into that thing and he's healthy and he says, hey,

I'm willing to make five or $10 million. And run around in that backfield in a reddish uniform. Yeah, dude. And fucking roll out and get out of the pockets so you can see. And, you know, like, if I'm Baker,

that $18.7 million is, it's a big barrier between him and his redemption story. And I think like that's the detail I think people are missing is like, it's in Baker's hands where he could be like, I'll take less to go play for a team that, you know, is a contender like San Francisco. That's a very unique situation.

I don't know where the carousel stops, but after the draft, we'll know. As to playing hurt, he probably got pretty sick and tired of people saying Case Keenham's no drop off from Baker Mayfield. And the AFC North was unique in that it was up for grabs until the very end. It took until the end of the season

for Cincinnati to grab that thing. And Cleveland was about a game above 500 until a three-game slide late. And in no way am I saying Baker-Mayfield is an elite quarterback. But what I am saying is that Baker Mayfield can win you games and maybe he needs a fresh start. I mean, Cleveland is low-key, a really tough place to play. You know, it's like even when it's rolling, there's just there's that kind of feeling of what's going to go wrong next.

And I think everybody has that in their head and that confirmation bias, like as soon as you make a bad throw in that stadium, I'm pretty sure you can really feel all that history. You can, all the ghosts of Eric Crouch and all the others. Why does he keep catching strays? Well, you can't pick another of the 43 quarterbacks that have been on that piece of tape that they put on the back of jerseys there. Here you go. I'd be delighted. Sure.

If you'd allow me. Deshaun Kaiser, Cody Kessler, Josh McCown, Brian Hoyer, Jason Campbell, Brandon Whedon, Colt McCoy, Brady Quinn, Derek Anderson, good quarterback. Charlie Fry, Trent Dilfer, Jeff Garcia, Kelly Holcomb, Tim Couch, Doug Peterson in the year 2000. There we go. So Derek Anderson, really tough guy.

Yeah. Really tough. I think we sacked him eight times on Monday night. Like there was a, there was a picture. There was a picture where he looked like he was dead. I think William Hayes and Robert Quinn were just decapitating the guy. But I'll just say this. Scapooz or no, you know what it wasn't Derek Anderson.

It was Kevin Cobb. Kevin Cobb looked dead on Monday night. Keep it in. All good. it in. I wasn't going to take it out. That's what she said. So, you're a child.

All I'm saying is, like, Baker Mayfield is not a failure. Baker Mayfield has battled whether you like him or not, and he said some shit at times where the first time I met Baker Mayfield, I was like, so maybe it's my fault. I was like, hey, he was a rookie. I was like, don't shut up. Like, just be you.

And sometimes I'll see him and I'm like, all right, man, like a little bit, like, let's put the governor on. Like, and I think that's part of Baker's. He just can't, and that's what makes him competitive and what's made him good through his entire career. He has to learn to put a governor on a little bit. And I also think he just needs to realize, like, hey, leave that Cleveland chapter behind. If you really want a fresh start, work with that number, and realize that you're not a failure. We just read a bunch of names of guys that couldn't do it. They couldn't pull the sword out of the stone. You got the sword

partially out of the stone. Like, you deserve at least something for that, but you can't blame the Browns for one to win football games. And, you know, it's up to them whether or not, you know, a guy with 22 civil cases is, I hate to keep throwing that around, but it kind of is what it is. He should say Cleveland kick rocks. Something like that. Oh, rock, like the Rock Hall of Fame. Cleveland Rocks is like the motto.

Keep it in. Keep that in. More quarterback news. Derek Carr signs a three-year, $125 million extension to stay in Las Vegas. no trade clause. A lot of the other AFC West fan bases were excited to see this, but incredulous that it was so much money. There's some tax implications that you pointed out if you wanted to expand.

Yeah, that's pretty interesting. What's interesting to me is first off that like people find a way to hate Derek Carr. Like I like Derek Carr. Like, again, am I going to put them in the top five? I think we just keep it in. making struggling we had Mexican food for lunch you should have gone with a vegan burrito

you're gonna docks a doc's a fellow like that you're gonna fart and make me start my point over sorry my stomach hurts it's a medical condition it is it's a medical condition excuse me if I make a fart joke

if I make a gas joke on the pot you can slap me again it's over the line yeah uh all right so Derek Carr The quarterback Yeah

Derek Carr We're gassing him up Derek car is somebody Like a car Yeah Gassing him up like a car Yeah And gas

Yeah You guys got it So Derek Carr is a guy That Jesus Christ Dude you might You might want to check

The pants on that one Huh? There's nothing wrong With my pants Huh You okay? You shitting? You shitting money?

You shitting on the job? I'm good, man. It's okay. I won't call HR. You can shit if you need to. Derek Carr. Sorry, Reed. Derek Carr is better than people think.

And we just do this thing where if he's not a top five quarterback, like we got to hate him. You know, because I think the problem is like these top five quarterbacks make it look way too fucking easy. You realize there's like 15 of these fucking guys on the planet. at any given time that you're like, yeah, I can win with this guy. Derek Carr has consistently been a guy you can win with. And after what he did last year as a leader, as a guy that, you know, like, I mean, Devante Adams came to play with him. You know, like, he's a dude.

When Devante Adams says, I want to go play with this guy, unless we think Devante Adams doesn't care about winning at all, and it's all about state tax to him, like, he sees potential in going to play with Derek Carr. That's his career he's guarding. That's his legacy he's guarding. I can tell you that as a player, when you go play somewhere, like you know full well how good your surroundings are and how challenging it's going to be for you to perform at a high level.

And I think that Derek Carr is a big part of that equation for a guy like Devante Adams. I think I'm glad Derek Carr got paid. And I think last year people started to come around on this kid. And he's now a man, he's not a kid anymore. He's like 30 years old now. But 24-4 in 2022. If he'd assigned that deal in Cali,

in Oakland he'd have made three million dollars less I think we're not a CPA you're not a CPA tax day is the shirt's Monday the 18th is a little tricky for people yeah typically the the 15th but Chris as you know

Emancipation Day is being observed in the District of Columbia on April 15th the holiday honors the end of slavery in Washington DC since April 15th as a legal holiday in D.C. the IRS can't require tax returns to be filed that day. The next business day is April 18th. So that becomes the new federal income tax filing deadline. A lot of holidays in one little short span.

You gotta be taxing. Keep that in. So think about like it's so funny to me. I never thought about this as a player. I was just happy to get my money. But you know like taxes really matter. They matter to everyday Americans and they matter to pro athletes. And I wonder if that's like an unfair advantage to negotiate and free agency in Vegas.

Like not only are you going to make a fuck ton of money and not give any of it back, but you're also going to make a lot of money off the field at these things called, well, you can't work at a casino. That sucks. It sucks for you guys. Moving to Vegas makes them a much better free agency target. Like Devante Adams saves a bunch of money going there on taxes. Wisconsin was pretty eye up that list.

And you get to live in Vegas. Yeah, all the, all the, you get to live in Vegas, which to me is, is not like a plus, but no offense anybody lives in Vegas. It's like Elon Musk, you know, all this shit he's talking about, like moving people to Mars and stuff, that's essentially what it's going to be like. Yeah. I mean, Mars, Vegas, same thing. But I look at this, like Jimmy G in an inverse situation, you know, signing his deal in San

San Francisco, I think 31-9 turned into like $15,000, $16,000. Reed, was that about right? thousand or 15 16 i didn't know that the taxes the liberals are wildly progressive are big government the lives are just real big government real just huge government 50 16 000 that's getting tarry tainted by the government yeah uh well no you know who actually had something like that happened to him i heard about this yesterday and this goes to show you NFTs are a total fucking shit show i remember we had left co on here and he was like NFTs are the next bullion and i was like I don't know about that.

Well, pretty volatile because Jack, the Twitter guy, he auctioned off an NFT of his first tweet. Guy paid $3 million for it, went to flip it, listed at like $45 million, came over with like $300, dude. And you know it's bad when you can't even get into the four digits. You appreciate it a bit. Oh, my God. So anyways, we're talking finance because it's getting close to tax day.

Jimmy G, $31 million. He only made a couple grand out of that whole thing. But Kirk Cousins, this is an interesting one. I just heard this. He's been playing in Minnesota. In Minnesota, but he keeps a house in Michigan, state taxes. Like, if you live in Michigan, you pay, I think he, he made 9-8. He would have took home about half that in Minneapolis.

Not so in Michigan. So it's pretty fucking funny that, like, you know, tax rate, it's something that players always talk about. I didn't think about it as much because by the time I was in free agency, I was older, I had money and desperate. But these guys, they're thinking about this stuff. You know, they're federal taxes and then they're state taxes. You know? So it's, you know what the tax rate in Virginia is?

No idea, dude. It's like five something. Five something percent. Listen, taxes, they go places. Yeah, taxes. They go on the roads and shit, you know, you want to drive down the road without fucking falling into a crevasse. I figure I write it off as hopefully my taxes are going there. Infrastructure.

Infrastructure. Kind of a big deal. You don't like infrastructure. Go to a country that doesn't have great infrastructure. Or go to a country that has better infrastructure than here and you're like, holy shit, this place. Like our infrastructure is low-key dog shit. Yeah. Other countries, you can get like health care.

Yeah, exactly. Well, we're like, hey, guys, we need more a B-52 bombers for, for, flyovers at the NFL games. Like we've got to hike the taxes up a little bit. There's no flyovers in Vegas. There are a ton of flyovers in California, a ton. You can't spell taxes without Texas. It's one of those where all the letters are the same,

just in different order. And there's probably no taxes in Texas. I feel like the tax man comes to your door, if that's something that happens. And they just, you're allowed to shoot the tax man in Texas. All right. So the USFL released,

their mascots for all eight teams in the North Division and the South Division. And they're on Twitter asking for names of the mascots for each of these teams. So put together a couple photos here with all the mascots for you guys to look at and maybe come up with some potential names for the mascots for each team. I thought that was my IP naming these guys. It's on the internet. They're asking for names. They're crowdsourcing names.

I think maybe you took their IP, kind of like the love is love thing when it was an entire, like the gigantic LGBTQ movement and you were like I think I'll make it my tagline love is love yeah I know and I think I lifted it from a rapper thank you very much which one I don't know it dub baby or little baby or one of the babies or well stealing IP is not we just it's what we do we're in the biz our IP it's all right so who we start with that's cool that's right I got nothing for this panther dudes okay such a boring mascot I got shimanga I'm naming that Panther Shemanga. Oh,

like Tim. You got it. A great Carolina Panther. Shimanga Biak Batuka. That's really good, dude. Thank you. The New Jersey Generals. I'll go general discomfort.

General discomfort because this thing makes me uncomfortable. He's not even wearing football pants. I'm not at all. He's wearing cargo shorts. I'm not at all. Is he wearing cargo shorts? Yeah, he's in the military, dude. I guess that makes sense.

They don't wear cargo shorts in the fucking military, dude? Yeah, they do. You got to carry stuff around. You get my dad. Eager Eagle out of my pouch. Like, that's not what they do, dude. Ready for my name? Sure.

Sarge. That's pretty good. Thanks. You're going to call the general sergeant? Well, yeah, that's the joke. That's the joke, Kingston. So there's a book, and we're on to the Philadelphia mascot now. It's called Don't Push the Button by Bill Coder. You can buy it at Barnes & Noble. 4.3 out of 5 is the rating. I think it should be higher.

kids book, they totally stole this mascot from that book, dude. There are like 14 characters in that book. Don't push the button that I read to my kids for many years. They're too cool and too old for it now. But they look like the Philadelphia stars mascot. I'll go Royd because he looks like a hemroyd. I think that's what a hemroyd looks like if a hemroyd has legs. Royed though.

Is Royd a name? How about Roy? Roy for hemroy. Roy the hemroid. Roy. Roy. Roy. I'm going to go with Puff.

Looks kind of like a magic dragon. It's like a dragon, do you? Yeah, horns. Panama Red. It's not bad. I'm going to go with Sunny because the sun is a star, little known fact. And they're the stars named Sunny. Birmingham Stallions.

It's a white horse. I got Colonel Freckles. This thing on? Pale horse. I don't know. Drony. Death. Brony.

The, they have a, their mascot is a pale horse. And wearing the Niners, Unis. It's also a big Bible banging area, but Birmingham? I feel like there's a lot of Bibles per capita in Birmingham and there's a pale horse. This is like an apocalyptic situation in Birmingham. I've got nice things to say about Birmingham,

several nice things. You don't like God? Because I wouldn't say anything mean about that. You don't like God? No, the statement was mutually exclusive of yours. I was making my own statement. a non-secur. Non-securter.

Non-securter. I've got several nice things to say about Birmingham, Alabama. Because you like God. I do like what God does for many people, including possibly myself. Have you ever prayed with somebody after they purchased a home? Like got in a circle with them, like the players at the football game.

That's a good question. And everybody hit a knee and just say like, thank you for, the mortgage rates being where they are right now, God. That's just as ridiculous saying thank you for helping our team win this game, by the way. And there's no bad time for a rant on why praying at a football game doesn't make sense. No, I don't think I've, no, I don't. Okay.

You should try that sometime. Yeah, it's a good idea. You got to read the room, though. You got to know if they're like God-fearing people. and so we're we are supposed to we're supposed to fear the god yes he will fuck you up dude okay and that's why we say that's what church should be

is like just come out and say it like like scared straight you're like welcome to church he will fuck you up man I think we just wrote three minutes of a righteous gemstones somebody comes in with like a terrible ailment they're like

there's more where that came from keep fucking up. Better pray harder. And for the record, I like prayer. I love prayer. I'll join you. I'll join you on that track. I love prayer. I pray that the New Orleans Breakers get a better mascot. This is a toothpaste mascot. New Orleans Breakers mascot looks exactly like there was a crest or one of these, when we

were kids, it shoots out three different colors of toothpaste. What you have is a tri-colored toothpaste. Which one was that? They replaced the red. Was it aqua fresh? Aqua fresh. Aqua. Name this guy, Aqua after aqua fresh.

They replaced the red part of the toothpaste with the, with the medium blue part of the toothpaste. This guy is totally fucked up. If my kids saw this, uh, this guy, they would never brush your teeth again. They would get gum disease because gingeritis. They get ginger vitus. Name this guy gingeritis because this is what everybody else is going to have when they see this. fucking mascot.

A wave, dude? This is toothpaste. That's all that is, dude. Is this one of the biggest misses in mascot history or hits? I like it more than I don't like it, but I wish I could make some amendments. It's toothpaste night.

I mean, the gamblers and the bandits look exactly alike. Same thing, dude. They didn't think that through it all, at all. I'll name the Tampa Bay Bandit Doug Gottlieb. What? Nothing. Okay.

I don't think they take credit at that stadium. And I'll name... It's just crypto now. The Houston Gambler. Mattress Mac. Shout out to Mattress Mac. Okay. So what we did is just nothing really that productive.

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could totally check out of so much, but enjoy the playoffs so much. Absolutely. I love them too. Just like Minnesota players love being in the playoffs, but that didn't stop T&T from shitting on them. and their fans for celebrating being there. Okay, so let me, let me. Not cool. Not cool, Charles. It's Minnesota, man. It's, yeah, it's fucking, they're inside all day.

And the teals don't win games. Nobody tells the, yeah. Nobody tells the baseball teams to shut the fuck up when they win one baseball game or two. Oh my God. Dude, they're all hammered. Yeah. They're blackout drunk 45 minutes. Chimpanion for game 163.

Yeah, dude. Great. Cool. We've done this 163 times now. So yeah, like let the NBA players enjoy their winning the playoff game. And we should all be rejoicing because we get to see the wolves. Sources say that Chris Long drew the first pick in the All Vives draft, which is coming up in a second. Sources say that it could be Anthony Edwards.

You pieces of shit. How do you like that? He just says names to try to gauge our reaction. My board, I'll say it. No, Anthony Edwards is, he might go one. But anyways, let's talk about the NBA opening weekend. Cool. I mean, it's pretty crazy preseason, regular season, whatever you want to call it.

I noticed that actually only five players played all 82 games. Which is insane, dude. Out of 450. I measure loads these days. The 90s, the load was just, you know, it was heavy loads. It was unfettered loads. But insane, I would have taken the over on that. Five, yeah, that's wild.

Five. Well, actually, I wonder if you can guess who these guys play for you. Dwight Powell. Dwight Powell, he's a taller guy. Rockets. Not rockets. Dwight Powell, taller guy. He's a taller guy.

All right. You're stalling it's Mavericks. Okay. Right state at least. Kvon Looney. Kvon Looney, Golden State Warriors. Sadiq Bay. Sadeek Bay went to college at Villanova.

He knew this stuff already. No, no, no. We already talked about this in the production meeting. Dog. Is he a six or? No, no, no, no. Sidique Bay. He's a, uh, he's a six.

he's a sixer. He's a piston. Yeah. We got Denny Avdija. We didn't talk about this guy. Deni Avdija. Magic. He's also a maverick.

They just run their guys into the ground. Wizards. Okay. And then Macal Bridges. Macal Bridges. Oh, the Bridges. The Bridges. Phoenix Suns.

They're actually not related. They're related to Jeff. McHale and Miles. Miles. He got tossed. One of them. Yeah, one of them tossed the mouthpiece last night. You know, I thought he did a great job of apologizing.

He actually did such a good job of apologizing. he removed himself from like his own body and he was like that is unacceptable what I just saw yeah like that is a disgrace that is a great strategy for apologizing is remove yourself from the person that did it and just be like I don't know what the fuck that guy was thinking be one of the take masters on the on the wrong deed tweet about yourself like it's not you that is gruesome that's the key because people are like holy shit this guy is like well how accountable and you You know what? It's a really good thing the pandemic's over because the mouthpiece covered in spit. I'm being facetious. I know a lot of people know that the pandemic's not

technically over. Viral load management. Wow. But you know what? The guy cares. He said, I've never seen that guy do this before. I totally get it. And, you know, as you put it, the Hornets, they had to sign up in their locker room. They lost in the playing game last season to Indiana by 27. So they had like the score in their practice facility big. So everybody would see it every time as like motivation for this season. And I don't blame, uh, McHale Bridges for being frustrated last night because they lost by 29 miles miles.

Miles. See, it's confusing. You know, it's like Kyle Chris. And Friday night, we got Hawks, Cows and Pell's Clippers for the right to make it into the, to the final eight, the elite eight of their respective conferences. I love the playing game stuff. Yeah, it works. Love it.

Me too. Love it. Really does. That's a lot of fun. And you get some really good two seven matchups out of it because that seven team that wins the play in is usually pretty strong. So we'll get to see Memphis versus Minnesota, which I think should be a lot of fun. Then probably the marquee matchup with the first round is Boston versus Brooklyn.

We get to watch Tatum versus Durant, two of the best guys in the business. And Chuck said that Boston should run away with this thing. I don't know if it's going to be that. But, you know, I think they were mentioning that, and you watch, obviously, you know, we're joking about the opening day weekend thing, but like I don't watch a lot of regular season NBA, okay? So Brooklyn's defense kind of up and down. What made Boston good was their defense, but their center, Robert Williams got injured and is, like, questionable at this point. So I'm not as much of a slam dunk. Boston's going to win guy. But I think what we were thinking about today was doing in all vibes draft. So a lot of you at home probably haven't been watching a lot of NBA. season now that the playoffs are coming you're gonna tune in a little bit so we want to show you who to look out for three in alley you this guy's got good vibes that guy's got good vibes that guy doesn't have good vibes any like betting tips here going in the NBA

playoffs as a as a gambler and an NBA fan like is there any underdog that you like is it brooklyn I think that they're not going to be an underdog in the books as the seeds are no it's weird they are really Boston yeah Brooklyn is an underdog in the series and Boston but has better odds to win the title than Boston which is very confusing to me that's bizarre that makes sense to an advanced mine like mine yeah I honestly think the best bet on the books is Phoenix plus 250 to win it all as long as plus 250 as long as one of their core guys doesn't get injured I don't see them losing all right well uh onto the all vibes draft yeah that's really what this thing's all about is

you got the first pick and it's gonna be a snake snake draft five uh slots per team I'll take LeBron. Did not make the playoffs. Oh, no, what happened to the Lakers? Oh, I don't know if you heard, but the, they imploded, actually. Incredible. I can't wait for this offseason. No, I'll take Anthony Edwards.

Okay. Because one of the funniest, coolest dudes in the NBA. If there's any NBA player we could get on this podcast, I want Anthony Edwards on this podcast. He's so fucking funny. He talked about how he could play in the MLB. He thinks he can play in the MLB. Could dominate lacrosse.

He could dominate. lacrosse which i which that checks out uh-huh the baseball crowd might not like it so much uh he also he thought the mask was willie wonka they did one of those fucking like uh you know pop culture quizzes like to show you this is so eye-opening when they when they interview rookies in a major sports league now and like they quiz them on things like pop culture and music and like we are five years away from people not knowing who michael jackson is yeah for sure was was Deceased. Got it. No, Anthony Edwards was number one on my big board.

Swagger on another level. Great pick. Great pick. Love Anthony Edwards. Makes you up. With the number two pick, I'll select John Morant. I think he's, uh... That was definitely the one, too. Was it going to go any other way than that? Nah, yeah. If he was going to be there, I'd take him, you know?

Yeah. Probably at one. Yeah. Certainly at three. Uni helps with Jha. Oh, yeah. Especially when they're wearing the Vancouver over Grizzlies kits. The guy jumps over everybody,

you know, thunderous dunks, big blocks, Murray State racer, rookie of the year, now an all pro, maybe, who cares? John Moran, sweet as hell.

Talk about swag. He's a swag master. It's a great pick. His name's John. He's got incredible vibes. Name's John Morant. Yeah, he's got some of the best hats in the league,

some of us hair in the league as well, like beyond just the on-court swagger. Just got good swag, dude. He was a slam dunk. He's the rare, he's the rare two-tool player, good at basketball and super cool also. Word. Two-tool. Yep.

All right. So I got the three and four pick. I wasn't going to pick this guy until last night. C.J. McCollum playing for New Orleans. I thought you hated C.J. McCollum. I never hated C.J. McCorm. No, you said he was like too high, high usage. And I don't know.

You didn't like the move when the movement. I'm sorry. Matt Kingston out, I think four to six with a deltoid strain. I mean, that was a reach. No, I like C.J. McCollum. I like C.J. too. I didn't get to get a little early. I'm glad you made that picked.

I needed to get him picked because I didn't want him to be taken. CJ has his own wine company, has his own wine label. Sheesh. Found redemption here in New Orleans. Everybody was questioning him in Portland. Last night after the game, he's dancing. He's celebrating. I feel happy for him.

Elite vibes. I am glad that he's happy. You know, you could feel that up there. By the way. He's a podcaster. We should get C.J. McCollum on. I think we had flirted with that before. All right, fourth pick.

I'm going with Phanasis onto Takumpo. You motherfucker, are you serious? Wow. Yeah, fuck yeah, I'm serious. On your board, huh? Yeah, fuck yeah, he's got a star next to his name on my board, dude. He was going to be my number one pick. I just took him forth because I had the snake.

But he's basically the all-time hype, man. Like, you know how in WWE, the top wrestler has, like, his little manager on the side that's always rooting him on. Yeah. He's just a good brother. Yeah, but he's also got a sweet setup. He has a sweet set up. He has a sweet set up. up. Oh yeah, they can't cut him.

No, they can't cut him. And like he gets to hang out with Janus, his brother, who's probably his best friend. And go to all the sweet things and clubs and the best energy on the bench I've ever seen out of anybody pretty much. I know him as Nashan. You all know him as Bones. Bones Highland. Good pick. Bones Highland's my pick. He's

a Denver Nugget. VCU. 21 years of age. 26 overall pick in 2021 NBA draft. The name's Bones Highland playing real minutes for the Nuggets. Contributor. Freaky athlete. We're just doing names in round two?

Nah, dog. Bones Highland, he's the total package as well. Okay. Am I up? You are? Good. I'm getting good at these. There's somebody I really went on my team, but I don't think you guys are going to

snag him yet. Well, is this snake draft, so I'm up twice? Just as he can't say. Great. I'm just getting, I'm so good at these. I'll go Trey Young. okay he's got great vibes he he even as a nix fan uh last year just taking over the garden and trolling all of us and like we deserve it good on you for making me miserable that's what i'm

supposed to be i got too arrogant last year like oh we're in the playoffs like who the fuck cares dude thanks for bringing me back down to earth i didn't even watch the next this year i knew how this was going to add i don't like that pick for the record but you don't like trey's vibes no i like this vibe allergic to defense supremely confident i don't get a fuck about defense it's just like give me an ounce of that kid's confidence like I would take it Alex Caruso the Caruso is my number three pick Alex Caruso is like is like a beater with something under the hood dude like the holy shit the guy's got a V8 in there Lakers missed him real bad looks like a CPA or something and actually can hang out with

his like he's cool like you can tell the guys like him he got to go all the club last year, supper club, all the clubs in LA, and do that whole circuit. The world champion circuit in the last couple years. Like he's a Laker legend, this guy. Just for, he was, he was there, and he was gone, and now he's in Chicago. This guy is living a charm life.

You got to party in LA, now he's partying in Chicago, and he seems really well-liked everywhere he is. Embrace the Bick just in time. Yeah, dude. Headband. For a while there, he was like, for him to improve his vibes so heavily, heavily over a two, three years span is incredible.

Like he went from a joke. Well, punchline to several jokes. Went from like a meme type thing to a real player. He started the last game of the finals that the Lakers won and they missed his defense all season. If Caruso hadn't gotten injured towards the end of this season, he would have been on all defense team,

either first or second team and he is coming back. He's been back at practice this week and is ready to go. Did a registered sex? offender to registered CPA transformation. And with one swipe of the razor. Well done by him. Yeah.

My third pick will be Red Panda. She performed at halftime of the T. Wolves playoff game. And she was perfect. She didn't drop any bowls. Not bad. I like that pick, I guess. With my third pick, I will take, I can't believe you guys didn't take this guy. So I'll take him.

Stephen Adams. God damn it. What is this? I met Stephen Adams at a club. His vibes are still the same. His vibes are unbelievable. He has some of the best vibes I've ever seen in person, dude. His vibes were so fucking.

He was so cool. Like, so cool, dude. A decade ago. A decade ago. No, this was like four years ago. Does he see the floor these days? You're just revealing that you haven't watched any basketball this year. No, that was that guy.

I watched basketball. Oh, so you're a liar. I'm honest. Stephen Adams starts in his key. They traded him for Jonas Balanchunus. he's been like the anchor of their defense. An anchor. Jesus Christ, anchor vibes. The other day he had a line of 6, 17, 6, 3, and 3,

one of only three players in the history of the NBA to accomplish that. For what team does he play? Memphis. Yeah, that's why he said there's a lot of guys with vibes on that team and I knew exactly who was talking about. Best arm sleeve in the league. Gosh, darn it.

Yeah, because you know those arms sleeves mean something. Like us, like us Americans are like, yeah, check these all these scribble out. Dude from New Zealand. Yeah, he's one of like 18 kids. Unbelievable story. Team player. His sister is an Olympian.

Okay. Am I up? No. I have another pick. Man, I had some ones that are not real people, but I feel like these real people are better right now. So I'm going to take Facundo Campazo, backup point guard for the Nuggets. He's actually suspended for game one of the playoffs for fighting. That's bad ass.

He is generously listed at 5'10. And he's just a little fireball. He's a short king. Mm-hmm. I'll take a tall king next. His name's Boban. Boban Marjanovich. Everybody loves Boban,

most marketable player in the league. And he's now part of my team. Great, great pick, dude. Yeah, thanks. He's got great vibes this guy. Total real-life giant. Walked out of a book, dude. Like, just walked out of a children's book.

Yeah. You're up. I'm picking the glue girl. Okay. I think she's anti-vives, but I'm willing to listen. I think her vibes are amazing. Like the heck. vibe that she's giving out like

she did something so she did something so reckless and so fucking like drastic and did not think it through dude like all there's wood everywhere you can you can glue your hand to some wood like

anywhere you can do it at your house you can do it like she didn't even practice like she just went out there with no plan but brought glue to a stadium and was protesting what animal cruelty yeah the owner of the Minnesota Timberwolves like slaughtered some animals that were infected with some type of disease so she was complaining about that not even with super glue though it looked like just Elmers yeah dude that's what i'm saying like not even like

gorilla glue well she couldn't use gorilla glue because that would be offensive to animals too you know it's like right so i who she used you know i got some bad bad news horse horses that's why her vibes are so like she her vibes to me are just so like you didn't think it through and I can totally relate like I don't think much through she did not think that whole thing through isn't elmer a pig dude there's layers of animal cruelty in her protest alone like how many horses died right the rocket's fucking social media person got fired for putting a gun and a horse emoji and if she goes to the maverick stadium they might have scored her out you can't bring glue into the maverick stadium all right you might have won me over that might be a good pick okay okay

Glue girl. You're up with your final pick. Oh, fuck. I want to make sure some white guys like my board, so I'm going to go with Marcus Smart. Because he plays in Boston. And I really do like Marcus Smart's vibes. I really do like Marcus Smart's vibes. I've always like Marcus Smart, dude. I feel like Margaret Smart is a fucking football player that plays basketball. One of my favorite players in the league. I would love to play with Market Smart. Any sport. Even golf. I've heard rumors that he's grading to play on the same team with at time. But I will say, and I'm pretty sure he's a defensive player of the year this year, he's one of the only, like, guards that is the captain of the defense where he's calling everything out. He's calling every switch, like multiple switches in advance. Bro, he's also just got this powerful, like, force behind him. Like Celtics fans are so serious about basketball, and he's been there a long time, and he's kind of the scrappy guy, dude, and I really like Marcus Smart. So he's going to anchor my squad there.

Good pick. All right, makes. Jeff Hornacek still in the league? No? I'll go I'll go Herb Jones Fuck you Really? That's awesome

Herb Jones Motherfucker That's awesome Yeah I'm kicking y'all's ass Herb Jones There's a guy named Erb out there You didn't pick him up

I didn't think anybody would take him His name's Herb dude Yeah Herb Jones Herb Jones plays defense I love D I love D And he plays a lot of it He's the man

You watch some Pels this playoff season you're going to fall in love with i will be watching the pel's number five for the pals um and he changed his number before revealing honorable mentions i'll let you uh okay i got some honorable mentions close it out i think i'll close it out with the finals cursive logo you're gonna draft the the logo fuck yeah i'm drafting the logo that is incredible dude they've gone back to cursive after going away from it for a period of a few years they took away the now it just says finals. Okay, I like that.

It's beautiful. That's a vibe. My honorable mentions that I kind of like Drew Holiday. Drew Holiday. Drew Holiday is a fucking beast. I'll join you there with Chris Middleton. Love it. Bro, Brandon Ingram, Skinny King, dude. Skinny, skinny dudes with beers are cool as shit, dude.

Yeah. Really fucking good. Super cool. He's super cool. He looks super cool when he's playing basketball. I have Jeff Green written down, but it was a do not draft. There's nothing against Jeff Green, but he just doesn't give off anybody. vibes. I got, I have Daniel Theus written down.

Tice. Yeah. Tice. Yeah. Played for Boston, though. Oh, yeah, you know why? Do you know why I had him written down? Reggie Theas. Okay, yeah, that's what I have it. That's why I haven't fixed up. Fucking, I was sitting there with, God knows why there was a Boston Celtics game on it must been the playoffs. And Wayne was like, is that you, dadda? I'm like, I don't think you know how this works. This is live sports and that is not me. That motherfucker's six-ten. I sure you didn't look like me, not even close. Junior?

Larry Danz should have been on my boy. I also have Javel McGee because he's the only guy that ever like just you'd totally big time to me at a at a nightclub he didn't know it was me not that he would know who I am he made all he does is make finals but it's tough to like give somebody a high five as you're walking by them and they're like way up there I felt like a fan I was like oh I just round in the corner of was Javale McGee I was like yo Javelle McGee shock nothing just hand in the air yeah so he's all vibes did you just go straight down or did I probably did the Phil Jackson.

You ever Phil Jackson had a high five and he just kind of like grabbed it. Straight to the face. Yeah. Last two honorable mention, Jordan Poole, wears tie-dyes, best free throw shooter in the league. And Dwight Powell, 30 years old, off an Achilles injury, played 82 games. Oh, wow.

I took a long, hard look at Wancho Hernan Gomez. I took a long hard look at Willie Hernan Gomez. Can you weigh in here? Who'd you hear say that name first today? I heard you say it first. Okay, thank you. That's all. No disagreement. Okay, he took my board.

He took my big board guy. Oh, I took a long, hard look at him. Hernan Gomez. It's the related. Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah, Wancho and Willie. And the boys.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You may speak. Tyrese maxi. That's about it. Greg Popovich. You sort of made the playoffs.

Hernan Gomez is great because it's another one of the, it's like, have me in the first half. I thought your name was Hernandez. And then it's Hernan Gomez. It's curveball. Wancho's a hell of a ride. Sick-ass name, dude. Sick-ass name. Those guys are actually underrated.

They're pretty good. Thank you. They just need to. We like as basketball. Oh, here's one. In summer league. Here's one. Mike Breen saying,

bang! Or the rare double. Bang! Bang! Taylor Jenkins, best coach in the league down at Memphis, bearded king.

Eric Spolster's vibes go up for me after that Jimmy Butler altercation just because he was just so like, I'm not doing this, dude. Or the meme, Mike Breen's about to say bang so MF loud. So motherfucking loud. Love that. Go NBA.

Go NBA. I'm a total Roblo. No, I got to tell you who I want to win. Who do we want to win? Who are we cheering for in the NBA playoffs? I'm going to make my decision right now. I'm going to bet up. I am rooting for the Memphis Grizzlies. Yeah. I'll root for the Grizzlies with you guys. Yeah. Let's do it. Shout out Darren Bates. Okay, let's get Bobby Wagner on. If you're in Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey, New York, Michigan, Tennessee, or Virginia, and you haven't tried the WinBet app yet. I got great news for you.

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In Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey, and Virginia, call 1-800-Gambler. And in Michigan, 1-800-2707-1-17. Tennessee, y'all too. 1,800-889, 9-7-8-9. So we got the great Bobby Wagner on here. And I always say this. Bobby Wagner, of all the great players, and I got to play with a few of them,

like Michael Bennett late in my career. I got to play against some, you know, early in my career guys like Cam Chancell or Richard Sherman, all those guys. Like even the role players were great there. Bobby's the best of all of them. So really excited to have Bobby on, and he's a new Los Angeles Ram.

Bobby, what's up, man? How are you? Crazy, crazy month. How are you feeling about everything? Doing good. It's crazy month. But to end up in LA playing for the champs,

I think I couldn't ask for anything more. So I'm good. Dude, let's start there. Because one of the reasons I think you're really going to help this team, obviously your play will help this team. And it's so cool to see great players at every level of that defense, which is something really unique. But you have a really unique perspective.

you guys were a playaway from doing the thing that's the hardest thing to do in pro sports, in my opinion in Seattle, which is repeat as Super Bowl champions. That's the hardest thing doing sports. So like, what did you learn that year? You know,

and what would you try to help the guys down in L.A. Now your new home kind of understand about what goes into that process? I think the biggest thing that we learned, especially we were all young when we was kind of going through that was, you know, after that first year, after we went and won the Super Bowl, that next year was a tougher year. Our schedule was tougher. We had our, you know, we had our buy week earlier,

early on in the season. You know, we had to realize that everybody was going to give us their best shot. And, you know, I think there was still like a humility. You know, when you win the Super Bowl, you know, you get on this high and there's all these, there's the parade, there's the parties, there's all this money you make it. And then at the end of the day, you got to get back to ball. faster you get back to ball, the faster, you know, everything starts to get back forward.

So it took us a second to get there. You know, that season, we didn't start off as the way that we wanted, but we eventually got there because at the end of the day, like, you know,

your mind is always going to take you where you need to be. So, you know, we were always a team that was ready to prove people wrong. So we heard those stats where, you know, they were saying it was hard for guys,

hard for teams to get back. You know, we didn't really believe it. You know, we believed in each other. And that's all that matter. And so when we got there, It was something that we already

We were confident we can do And we went through a lot Even that Green Bay game You know I think rushed through like five picks And you know there was like the defense You know I gave up some stuff And we were able to pull that out At the last second

So you know it was a fight But it was worth it when we got there Unfortunately we didn't close it up The NFC championship game He threw five picks in that game I think so And the crazy thing is the crazy part about it is I don't I can't remember exactly

But I think four of the five picks were to Germain curse. Oh my God. So the game-winning touchdown was to Germain curse. So that was like to let you know the confidence that Russ had in Germain, you know, to kind of go through all that and still game on the line, you know, you know, we all trusted Germain. We all knew he could make those plays and, you know, he closed the game since the Super Bowl.

Dude, that game was so, you know, I was on the other side of the division. used to think like Seattle gets the brakes, man. They make their own luck, but they definitely get some breaks. The defense, they hang in there. They make one big play in the fourth. We used to go up there and, like, it'd be 10-7 for three quarters and then pick six Bobby Wagner or something like that. And I just, from the onside kick to, yeah, the touchdown of curse, which was a deep ball, to the two-point conversion.

Like, I'll never forget the second half of that game, but you're right. I never remember the, the, the rusted five picks. the field yeah the fake field goal dude yeah i think that's what started everything the fake field goal touchdown started everything and yeah rusty some some magic and you know we we played well and he was able to pull it up and then mike's on the bicycle mike's on a bicycle and i remember like uh i can't i forgot what it was but there was a kid that was mad that mike got a bicycle because he thought that he got the bicycle because we one. So I remember a kid

from Green Bay or something was calling in complaining that they shouldn't get bicycles after the game or something like that. It was weird. There was a twist of the knife that it was Mike. Mike knows how to piss people off. For sure. Including me. I spent half the, we were like best buddies to talk to Mike yesterday, but we spent half the time arguing

in Philly. He never once drove himself home. He'd wait after practice, two hours sometimes, until I was done watching film and say he got a ride home for me, dude. He was living on the other side of Philly. He was so cheap he didn't want to drive his own car home. So Mike Bennett, if you're listening, you cheap motherfucker.

I love you. But no, that game was vintage Seahawks for me because you guys made your own luck. You had good breaks. Like you're tough, you're resilient. And that's why I think you guys handled that year pretty well because you were right there. And like, to me, you know, it's a painful memory. I know, but like you're a playaway. And so you essentially as a member of that team, the ball could bounce a bunch of different ways.

you essentially repeat it. Like you guys know how to do that. So when you get down to L.A., I feel like one of the hardest things for us was, you know, in Philly, when we were trying to repeat, it took a long time for us to get back to where we were. But by the time it was the playoffs, kind of what you said, the DNA of that team is there.

You just got to, you know, I didn't like coaches harping on don't get complacent because the more coaches talk about not getting complacent, I feel like that's in your head is an option. You know what I mean? Like, I don't. think people understand this but the more you mention it sometimes the more people are actually thinking about it and i think the best way to go into new season after super bowl is don't even

mention it let's just go to work you know what i mean i don't know where you land on that as a leader and somebody who's dealing with coaches it's it's uh one is the power of a tongue you know power of like what you speak you know you speak stuff into existence so i think that's that's one part but then two you know you got to realize when you went into that super bowl season like you didn't know you was going to win the Super Bowl. So there was there was no focus on that. The focus was winning the games and taking one game at a time. And then when you win the Super Bowl, it's like that constant reminder of like, hey guys, like I know we won a Super Bowl, but hey guys, I know we did, but. And you didn't talk like that when you want a Super Bowl. So a lot of it is just, you know, trying to get guys to

focus and realize that it's a new season and that what you did last year was amazing, but no one cares anymore. And so, you know, it's not going to, majority of time, your, your team that you have that following year is not the same team. Yeah. You have different guys. Maybe your core is the same, which the core is the same, but you have different guys. You've got to learn how to, you know, the guy, the team that's able to jail and click at the right time of the year are the teams that's that come out and win. And so that's the whole point is can you, can you real, can you regill? Can you refine that, that, uh, chemistry that you guys had towards the end of the season? And what you do to do that, you know, and guys got to be willing to want to do that.

That's what it was. You know, I think there was a point in time in those two seasons where, you know, it just clicked. It clicked for us. And we was willing to sacrifice our time or, you know, where we were at, anything, sacrifice for the betterment of the team. And that's the hard part, too. It's like, guys get this love and this glory.

And then they want that again. And they put themselves over the team. And so I think that's what it is. Like, can you lock in and, and, you know, you know, think about the team more so yourself. Yeah, no question, because you get a taste of that success, and it can bring, it can bring different. And, you know, I'd say, like, money doesn't change people.

Like, it changes the people around you, and it's the same thing with success. And so how do you react to the way people are changing around you as you win a Super Bowl? You become the hottest ticket in town. Which is a tough thing for young guys, especially to do. Teams are increasingly younger, and you said this. Like, your team was young in Seattle,

so it makes it even more impressive that you guys got back there. You guys got real veteran leadership down in Lerner. LA. Like you got Stafford, you know, Jaylen's an absolute dog and he's been in a league a long time now. You got Aaron who's a fucking legend and, you know, I was so happy for him. But there's a ton of veteran leadership down there. Have you connected with dudes already to kind of like wrap about what next year is going to be like as a team is trying to defend? No, we haven't really, I haven't really talked to me. Obviously, I connected with the guys when I signed. But I think a lot of those conversations will come during OTAs and will come during, um, when we report for training camp. At the end of the day, too, where I'm at with it is that I've been with a team for 10 years. And the way that I've gone about it is, it may not be the same way that, you know, they've gone about it. So a lot of it, too, is me not coming in there and just trying to change everything or whatever, but learning, you know, how it is there.

And then if I feel they ask my opinion and I feel like there's something that we can tweak, then we can tweak it. But at the end of the day, it's like a lot of it is me going in there learning how, they've gone about it and having an open mind to do different because I don't want to, you know, Seattle had a run and I don't want to bring that there because it's not like we, like we're trajectory like that. We were kind of like plateauing, you know, in a sense. So there's a, there's a way that they won. And I think my goal is to just maximize and add value to that and make sure that part or how they were able to have that success,

you know, take that up another notch. it feel to get the opportunity to play with a detackle, I mean, as a linebacker, to have a chance to play with arguably one of the best de-tackles, if not the best de-tackle playing in the game. And as a defense alignment, I know what a de-lineman can do to free up linebackers and just thinking about having a chance to play with someone dynamic like that in front of you, not taking away from all the guys you play with in Seattle. But how do you envision everything is going to go with that? I'm excited, man.

I'm excited because I think, you know, it's a guy you have to worry about. You know, sometimes in Seattle, they were moments where the guards just climbed up to me or went up fast. And, you know, from the scheme or whatever. But, you know, when you kind of stack behind a guy like that, you got to count for him because, you know, he knows the plays and he studies just like anybody else. Like, he studies the game. He knows what the ball's going and he reacts quick.

So it's a guy. that you got to, you know, you got to account for. And, you know, I feel like I'm a guy you got to account for it too. So I feel like we're going to play off each other well. I feel like I'll, you know, hopefully free him up a little bit too, let him kind of do some things more freer and then read off of him. Because I feel like that's what I do best is, you know, I read the deal in line. And so I think we can get really creative and it's going to be fun.

You've had some really tackling corners. Like, you've been around some corners that actually aren't afraid to, like, stick their hat in there. And now I'm really excited to see you play with Jay. because as a D-Lyman, I look at Jalen and I'm like, he's got that kind of mindset. And I think that's really cool. Like how much of a difference is it to have a DB that can kind of back you up on the third level, so to speak, when you're kind of the center of that defense? I mean, I'm excited to play with him too, just because I'm a fan of his game.

And a lot of people like, I mean, I watch film. So, you know, a lot of people look at the batted balls and, you know, the intelligence and the picks. But, you know, when he plays that nickel spot or when he comes in at a corner, and he's lifting your receiver up and slamming them on the ground. Like that ignites not only your team, that ignites everybody. You know what I'm saying? Gets everybody going.

And he's that type of guy. He's all around. Like you can, you know, guard your top receiver, but also tackle your tough is running back. And, you know, that's a guy that's, you know, I'm going to feed off that energy

and it's going to be fun to play against somebody like that, especially just having another cerebral mind. You know, you can tell you, he studies the game as well. And he, you know, see stuff before it happens. And so communication should be, should be off the charts.

All right, so a lot of people have asked you this. Like, you were your own agent. There was some, like, back and forth with you and the Seahawks and all that. I, as a player, I'm the thousand person to tell you this, but, like, you deserved better there. I mean, I don't know what kind of guy you are. We've never really hung out, but, like, you seem like you're real classy and sometimes, like, you try to be the bigger man, take the high road and that sort of thing. But it still sucks because there's a bunch of ways that could have gone.

Like, where are you in that process of, forgiving or forgetting. Like I'm not saying either one is is on the table, but, you know, because you spent 10 great years there, I know the feelings are probably mixed. Like, where's your head out with all that? I'm in a good space. To be honest, I think I would have been in a different space if I ended up with a team that had no chance to compete. You know, I think that kind of plays a role in the two. And then, like, you know, when you sit there and think about your dream, I mean, to play for a city like Seattle is dope. And I've loved my 10 years. But to be,

to have an opportunity to bring a championship home, like, to where I was born or where I'm from, I think that's dope. So for me, that's the biggest thing. But as far as them, I don't have any ill feelings. Like I said, I said my peace to them. I told them as soon as they did it. Like, I felt like they could have did it better. They didn't do it the right way. And like, there's a reason why there's a reason it shouldn't be that way with all the, you know, if you look at every single star or vet or whatever that did some great things, there the relationship was always ended in a bad way and it shouldn't necessarily be that way but you know I think like I said I addressed it I

told them how I felt I felt like they could have communicated it better I think they used the me representing myself kind of as an excuse in my opinion because I feel like get that yeah it's like 10 years bro like it don't matter like to me it didn't matter like if I found out from my agent or if I found out from you know if they came to me, like, I still would have felt the same way because I see you in the building every day. Dude, like, I, but I just didn't get the apology. It was like, hey, my bad.

And I'm not trying to pile on or make you say anything negative. But, like, for me, I'm listening and I'm like, okay, number one, you talk about we've had players that have represented themselves in the past. And, you know, like, there's a reason that I would understand if there was a trade going on. But, like, as soon as the trade stops happening and you're about to release a player or do something, like, you have to communicate with that player. It's not that fucking hard. So I just didn't get it.

It's not like, whoops, I spilled a glass of water. It's like, whoops, I didn't tell, you know, maybe the best defensive player in the history of our franchise that he's not going to be with us next year. Like, I just didn't get it. And hopefully this lesson is the one they learn from. And like you said, like the next Bobby Wagner doesn't have to feel that way at the end.

Yeah, I mean, that's the whole thing. I think, you know, my biggest thing is that they grow from it and then the next person that's in my position, You know what I'm saying they treat better. That's all I care about. I mean, like I said, I don't hate those guys. I'm not, I don't much hate my heart. Like, if I saw them on the street, we wouldn't fight.

You know what I'm saying? I would say, you know, because we spent like 10 great years together. So I'm not going to just throw it out the window, you know, but it is what it is. I feel like I've moved on. They moved on. They wanted to go younger. And that's my goal to show them that, you know, younger's not always better. Yeah, dude.

I remember I always tell this story when Les cut me, your new GM, who's my guy. I just texted Les the other day. they cut me Jeff and Les cut me and that summer Les was at my house for dinner out in Montana so like you know there is a business element to it and I'm not equating those two situations but I think like if you feel good about

where you end up you're like I mean what am I going to be mad about sitting down here on the defending champs like 50 miles from my hometown like this is sick so I think you know everything happens not everything happens for a reason but this certainly feels like you're going to come out looking pretty good here and you thought about

Dallas too man tell me why every guy that played with Dan Quinn seems to at least give him a look if they have a chance to like reunite with him because he just seems like a guy that guys respect yeah I have so much respect for him and in our time that we had um you know we did a lot of amazing things and he really you know he was he blessed me a lot and so I think you know one of my years um there you know I have probably had the most sex I had in my career with him um so it was it was just you know when I got the opportunity to have a conversation with them or just talk about, you know, reuniting again. You definitely have to, you know, talk about it, see if there's a possibility.

But, you know, unfortunately, it just didn't work out. And you are, you're your own agent through this whole thing. Like, I, no chance, dude, that I could handle that. No, like, no, I don't know about you. No, I'll probably couldn't. Dude. So what's the hardest part of being your own agent? Like, what part of learning the books and learning, like, a contract and learning, like,

what's the thing that gets people? like the you've had a couple between russ and a few guys have I feel like there's a lot of smart guys up in Seattle like yeah so where do you decide you're going to do that and then like what's the hardest part about learning to do that uh I probably decided maybe like after my second contract that I got I just wanted to um you know I wanted to get into business a little bit more

and so I thought this was a way to get into that but I think the hardest part of being on agent is not even like the learning part. I think the biggest part is like trying to get the GMs and the salary cap guys to get over the offensive phase. Like they don't want to say anything to offend you. And I'm like, yo, this is business. Yeah, that's crazy. I don't matter. You know what I'm saying? It's like it don't matter. If you tell me I'm slow or you tell me I'm this, like I'm not going to like flip the table and punch you. I'm like, this is business. You know what I'm saying? Like, so that's the hardest part is getting over that.

But once we get through that, it's pretty seamless. They're like, Bobby, you're on the other end of 30 and then you just fucking punch Dan Quinn in the face. Like,

like Doug, but that's, I never thought about that. And I guess it depends on the guy who's representing yourself because if you're representing yourself, you have to be ready to hear like the negatives. You know,

like you have to be ready to hear what they're, you know, so I don't know. Like, what did people say? Is there anything negative to say about you? I mean, there wasn't really anything negative.

The only thing is just like, when we talked about money, like whether they had the money or not that that's really it like you're talking to me for a reason so you know if you don't you're not going to sit here and tell me you don't like my gang then if you didn't like my game then we wouldn't be having this conversation so we it's more of it just like talking about money and that's why i felt like i didn't really understand uh seattle's stance because we already been through that like we already have difficult conversations and so for me it's like i to me in my mind i already proved to them that i can handle a difficult conversation so even if

they were trying to trade me, but then they changed their mind. Like, it wouldn't have been a big deal. Right, exactly. Word to the wise, if you're out there in your NFL player, like, just if you're not Bobby Wagner, maybe think about the insults you might hear unintentionally in negotiations

with the fucking team. Because I can tell you my 32, 33 year old if I'd have fucking been, you know, I would have been like, damn, you really feel that way? I'd be like, I think I'm just going to go home, dude. That's great, though. That's cool that you're able to do it. and actually come out on top.

How do you handle, like, tickets? Okay, you're, you're, because you're an L.A. guy. That's a real question. That's a question, dude. That's a real question. I don't know yet. I'm pretty sure the first game going to be crazy. Because normally, like, how I play it out is like with Seattle,

it was like, okay, we had all these games. But I knew L.A., anytime I played in L.A. or anywhere close to L.A., Arizona. Vegas now. Yeah. San Francisco maybe. I was like, okay, this is going to be the game where I got to get like 15 to 20 tickets. But I'm not getting 15 to 20 tickets every game.

No, dude. The price of free lunch just went up, dude. Yeah, so we don't have to figure this out. But, I mean, the first couple games, you know, I'll figure it out. And then after that, we got to, you know what I'm saying? Like, everybody advice to pay their cousin and their cousin's friend. We can't be doing all that. No question.

And when you tell people how much the tickets cost, they just look at you as if like, I'm like, what, okay, so what you're saying is that you want me to just give you a $150 gift. Yeah. Is that like money is just growing on trees? But they don't think about it like that. They don't think about it like that. You get tickets for free. Do you have to give a lot of tickets out of Duval? That's what it is. They really think you get the ticket for free. That's what it is. And like when you tell them that you got to pay for them, they don't want to believe it. They don't want to believe it. They just do not want to believe it. I'm just like, hey, this gets taken out of my check. You're like, no, it doesn't. Okay, so what I'm trying to do is make an extra $300 this week. No, dude. So, yeah, yeah. All right, so I'm hearing you're a pool shark. Is that true?

Dang, where do you hear that from? Oh, I do my research, man. I watch film and I do my research. I'm decent. Are you, okay, decent? So have you, like, scouted out the local spots that you could get on a table down in L.A.? There's a couple spots. I got to see if they're still there.

You know, COVID happens. So, you know, kind of shut it down there. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. He's smart though because he said decent. So if I ever see him, I'm going to be like, let's run this game for money. And then he's going to beat me.

Yeah, for sure. You're going to get Uncle Field. Jason Peters used to do that to me. You're going to get Uncle Field. Yeah, Uncle Field. Yeah, Uncle Field. I'm let you know I'm solid. And you did you read, you know, I'm solid.

But it's all relative because there's solid. And then there's fuckers that like really go to pool halls and like know the rules. Oh, no. The way he said I'm solid. That's him. Yeah, he's the guy that's simply. He has his own. He's got his own cue.

Because the way he's saying. it now, the way he's saying it now, like if he did play you for money, he doesn't have to feel bad because he didn't, he didn't try to steal your wrong. Exactly. Told you. No, my question was going to be, how did your previous agent feel when you decided, hey, I'm probably going to start representing myself. It was real chill. Like, it wasn't, you know, it wasn't a big deal because I told him, um, I told him what it was. And so it wasn't like a, it wasn't like a situation where I came to him like, yo, I'm unhappy, like, you're trash. Like, I'm going away. It was like, yo, like, I'm starting to think about life at the football and I'm thinking about,

you know, what I want to do. I want to be in business. And I feel like this is an opportunity for me to explore that route. And if I fail, I'm okay failing because at the end of the day, I'm going to learn more than I fail. And so he was real understanding. I got a good relationship with really all the agents, to be honest with you. Like, it's not. an agent that to my knowledge it's not an agent that I don't rock with or they don't rock with me like yeah like my never my stance was never like it's been other players other players for like oh agents is not relevant I never had that stance I feel like you know it's like you said there's certain guys that don't feel like doing this I don't yeah yeah you don't feel like doing it I don't

think guys should just go and do it like you got to feel like doing it you got to put in the work yeah and if you don't feel like doing that you need to have an agent and that's that's all it's my stance and it probably got you ready for more ready for the business world than I would have been like just going through like seeing what it's like being in a negotiation room and like working the numbers and the terminology and stuff like I'm just not there and I wonder like what does Bobby Wagner want to do after football because you seem like a guy who's got a plan yeah I mean I want to I want to invest for sure I mean obviously if you look at his sweatsh yeah I saw I won't invest there that's that's this is what an investor looks like

I like that yeah yeah I want to invest I want to um You know, I'm part of a fund out in Seattle called Fuse. And I think, too, it's I want to position myself, you know, as an owner of a team, a president of a team. That would be cool. And in order to do that, you got to understand the business. And so when I come, I think when I come and I finish and what I bring to the table is a unique skill set because I've been in the locker room playing at a high level. And then I've also exposed myself to the business side of things early. So, you know, it would be a little bit different perspective, you know, if I decided to do that.

All right. So, L.A. this year, parting shot here. There's going to be a lot of people at the game. Like, there's a lot of celebrities I see at these games in L.A. now. When the Rams were in St. Louis, we didn't have as many celebrities. But now you guys got all the celebrities. So tell me, man, like, who's somebody you're really excited about seeing on the sideline at a game? I think Magic Johnson would be the first person.

Wow. Okay. Magic Johnson. Yeah. He's the guy that I watched do the play sports going to business. And so I want to do the same thing, play sports, going to business. And he's a guy that did it flawlessly. And I would put Kobe Bryant up there too.

That would have been a person. That would have been super dope to pick his brain on how he did certain things. because a lot of his stuff was done under wraps. Like, we always thought Kobe was just like, focus on basketball. He didn't care about nothing else. And then when he retired, everybody was like, okay, he's going to do just like Jordan did.

He won't come back because he missed the game. And the dude went on to win an Oscar, founded body armor that sold for a bunch of millions of dollars, started on fund. Like, he started doing a bunch of stuff that we didn't know about. Like, he taught himself how to play the piano overnight. It was just... Yeah, he's a brilliant guy. He was a brilliant guy.

I mean, like, yeah, he was into so much stuff. And I feel like you heard all this stories after he passed, which, to your point, he was into so much. And so I think that's really cool. Yeah, okay, newest member of the Los Angeles Rams defending a title and they got a guy who knows what that's about, Bobby Wagner. Thanks so much for joining us, man. It's a real pleasure.

It's an honor. We've enjoyed watching you play. It's nice to be on the other side of Zoom with you, ma'am. Thanks for the time. Yeah, man. Honors all ours, man. Take it easy, bud. Tell Reggie we said what's up.

Reggie and Byron. Have you met those guys yet? Did you meet them yet? Yeah. Yeah, I've met him. Those are my dudes, man. All right. I'll catch you soon.

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and he's smarter and more mature than you. He's asking you about your 401K immediately. He's just, he's over my head. He's so fucking. Fucking awesome, dude. This guy is super cool. We just talked about it the other day, but he would have been the perfect vet for a guy just coming in the lead to ask questions and be confident that you're getting the right answers and someone who's genuinely trying to help because he's that type of guy. Yeah. Great dude. Shout out to Bobby Wagner. Appreciate Bobby Wagner coming on. Also, like a lot of people take you behind the scenes like booking guests. you know, I have to, I book a lot of the guests.

So I don't know all these players. Like some people are like, yeah, you must get some really good NFL players. I'm like, honestly, dude, I'm kind of fucking old. And some of these guys are kind of fucking young. So Bobby Wagner and I only overlapped a couple years in the NFC West, but, you know, I got a chance to maybe run into him once or twice in the field. But he was so cool about getting back to me, like making time. We had to move a couple things.

So just a true pro on and off the field. Yeah. A couple of missed opportunities on my account. I could have asked him how to handle internal beef because at one point, the Seahawks, you know, it was like the defense were all against Russell Wilson because he was supposedly allegedly a company man. I would have asked him how to handle internal beef within the locker room

because I consider the green light a locker room. Okay. We have a little internal beef. That's a good one. My head didn't go there. Oh, well, I got a way we're going to handle some internal beef. I bet you Bobby Wagner wouldn't have said you get to hit golf balls at the guy that's being an asshole.

And the funny thing is I was downstairs eating my cheese steak from Bell that I got today on the way here. And I seen Reed unwrapping two very serious helmets. and they look like Vespa Helmets. Yeah, they better be fucking Vespa helmets. And so I asked Reed, I was like, you have a motorcycle? And he goes, no, this is for Chris and Makin

tomorrow when we get to hit golf balls at them. Yeah. And I instantly, it made my day better. Yeah. It made my day better thinking about that. I think tomorrow might be cathartic for both of us. Oh, man. I mean, I don't, like, honestly, I'm okay.

What are the terms? I got to, I told people about this earlier. the show but basically i'm standing in a 20 foot box i guess these sadistic fuckers made it as 20 foot box whatever you do when i'm when i'm up just don't let making stand behind you i'm not going to buddy it's not going to be like one person up at a time we're all just going to hit the balls at the same time so what club are you going to use to hit making what what do you mean i'm using a driver you guys are crazy like are you guys serious like what else what other club like what other club what are you?

How far away you guys gonna be? 150 yards, I guess. Oh, if you guys were closer, I would have break, but when you think about 150 yards, it sounds kind of fucking close, but when you think about it like 450 feet,

sounds way further. So that's the way I choose to think about it. So, are you guys going to wear like, what kind of thing? Cards, cups. You wear really whatever you want,

but I'm going to be a man about it. Or I'm going to be, well, I'm going to be a man about it because I'm going to have a cup on. That's, so we got to keep going to someone gets hit right and when you think about it we're kind of high maintenance like for you know like

for content for content wise we got to keep going to someone gets hit no you keep getting hit no yeah yeah i mean we we're going to keep swinging at you guys until one of you guys eventually get hit no we can get hit we've got five minutes we've got oh oh we have five bunch of golf balls five minutes okay nice nice nice nice this is going to be fun okay but like don't invite 15 people because if my window is 20 yards like no more people okay so read cancel all those invitations you have uh i got to draw the line in sand somewhere 20 fucking feet my dad's excited he's bringing his driver too that's fucking great is he good at golf too i was like jesus christ dude i got reeds whole fucking reads it's gonna be like a family reunion we have green light we have reeds aunt's gonna be there

do we have like green light in-house clubs or something fuck no you got to get your own clubs We got clubs for you You got close for you You're gonna have to go to a country club and rent some Nope Straight to the thrift store Easy Okay

You get the cheapest ones you can possibly get Get some get wood Get a three wood that's really made out of wood Okay In fact make all the clubs made out of wood I'm just slowly realizing that this is dumb Oh this is crazy Is this like jackass level dumb

Yeah It's definitely dangerous. Huh? It's like dude perfect mix with jackass. It literally is a jackass stunt. Have you ever seen the jackass when they did the highlight? Yo, don't back out now. Don't do that face now.

I'm not backing out, bro. I'm the man in the fucking arena. I'm Teddy Roosevelt. Until that golf ball. You're working for, you know, like your helmet. You're writing stories about this great thing that we're, we're the men in the arena tomorrow. Okay? Fuck, it's tomorrow.

Yeah, it is. Jesus Christ. Well, you know what you should. should do tonight to get ready for tomorrow. Drink some nice cold cores light. Oh, Coors Light. You want to crack that bad boy open? The microphone is up there.

Wow, dude, we really have a Coors Light. I got to go to a T-ball practice after this. Otherwise, my Jits are hitting baseballs off a tea. Oh, remind me at the end. I have a parent question for you. Okay, cool. Probably ask it now because we're about to start the Coors Light made the chill segment.

I don't know if this applies to your kids. Right. But as a parent, what's more creepier? The mall Santa or the mall Easter bunny? Mall Easter bunny, dude. Mall Easter bunny, okay? Let me tell you something about my dad. But doesn't it seem like,

but to me, it seems like kids are more like accepting to the mall bunny versus the Santa, and the bunny is the creepiest thing. Not my community. Hey, listen, Nate, I'm telling you. You wouldn't know something about my dad? My dad is a mensch, dude. He's like a perfect human being.

there is one thing though that he's done that is incredibly disturbing to me and it was without really consulting me like consulting me and my family minimally rolling up pre-pandemic i got a one-year-old and a fucking three-year-old i think something to that effect four-year-old i don't know i can't do the math and coming out of the woods in an easter bunny costume i have never seen my kid run so fast In fact, Luke, who's the younger child, and at this point I think he was two because he could speak. At night, he would say bunny. He called me in his room and say, bunny. He would call me in his room and just say bunny.

So my dad scarred the fucking of my kids and had the audacity to ask again this year. Yes. If the kids are in good enough shape to meet the Easter bunny again. Dude, no. How about no, dad? How about no, dude? How slowly do I have to say this? is no.

You cannot dress up as that bunny again. That is so funny. And Mall Santa, no problem. So, yeah, good question. It really important question, Nate, too, especially with Easter coming up and tax day coming up. Okay, so by the way, real quick, you had a, you had a spin drift on the way up before we transitioned to ice cold beer.

You had a spin drift on the way up. Yeah. The cucumber one. And you told me to try it. You said it tastes like expensive hotel water. Hotel water. Bullshit, dude. taste like bad breath water, like water trapped in a bottle that somebody with halitosis

breathed into. That's what that tastes like. No disrespect to the rest of the spenders. So for the listeners out there, it is cucumber flavor. And honestly, it tastes like the water. When you walk into the Rich Carlton or one of these uppity hotels, they have the water. That's what the cucumber. The cucumber and a little bit of lemon floating at the top. Oh, I know. But that's if they left that out in the sun for six weeks, that's what that would taste like. Like, it'd be having this same. Spindrift review, not very good.

Not as good as pineapple. Nowhere near. So avoid cucumber. All right, Coors Light. These days, it seems like life forces us to be on all the time. So every now and again, it's important to stop and reset. That's when you reach for a Coors Light. It's a mountain cold refreshment, made to chill.

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Dude, we are chilling. Blue Mountains, baby. Hold on a second. Cold as the Rockies. we've put together a six pack of questions for you guys made-to-chill questions surrounding the NFL draft Chris you were there you're at the draft second overall yeah what was it like being in that room this is terrifying honestly a little bit of a downer to start but like it's terrifying you're like the team that you're going to is picking second in the draft it's like oh man you know like I never felt like oh this is going to be a walk in the park so maybe I was

was just very realistic, but it's just like sitting in that room, the better it goes for you, the bigger the challenge. And honestly, it's kind of tense because the whole thing, the whole thing's tense. You've got to pick eight, ten people to be at your table. Like the cut, who's the cut off? You know, like the whole week's tense, dude. Fuck that. I kind of wish I did the Joe Thomas. I said this last week. My mom's phone went off in the room. Her cell phone went off in the room. Silence your phone, mom. But it was the Rams or something. mom doesn't have to silence her phone well can i strongly suggest that she silences her phone what about having your buddies with a with a chris long has a big dong sign

wasn't good either that wasn't good either dude fucking draped over and you were there who wrote that sign can we get to the bottom of that i don't remember i don't remember okay so that whole thing was traumatic so like honestly yeah i had had a bad haircut dude had a bad haircut no facial hair horrendous it's like your wedding day dude big suit i love being married i love getting drafted but i don't like taking pictures when i get married and get drafted because all those pictures uh all they do is remind me how baggy the fucking suits are i look like drew gooden i look like drew gooden just swimming in expensive italian linen the drive and like drowning drowning and it's a big

orange tie big cheesy smile me and roger godell big big big ugly fucking hat big ugly hat dude ugly hat pinstripes terrible dude is that is that good enough course light but you can't complain you no you made a lot of money that day you only had to endure that for what 20 minutes like oh how then the fun started then then playing for the ram started i'm just telling you bro it's not like like like I loved the city of St. Louis and everything, but it was hard as fuck to start, dude. It was hard. We were bad, dude. We were bad.

Yeah, but silence your phone, Mom. We were talking about getting, you know, like, yeah, but it's the cutoff is hard. Cut off is hard, dude. The cutoff for who you're bringing the draft is hard, man. You got a D-line coach. You got an assistant D-line coach? So here's a head coach. So here's a hard question that you might not want to, might not want to answer.

Hit me. Who was the first person out? First person out? Like who was the who? I don't remember the cut, dude. I remember the thing with the wedding. There's always that. But that's the thing.

The wedding picture is just as bad as the fucking draft picture. You know, swimming. I wore a baby blue suit at my wedding. Swimming. You remember the suit. Swimming, dude. Like swimming. That was the style, though.

It was the style, but it's not anymore. I would love to start an app. And I'll sell this concept of Cora's light. an app that takes old pictures that you want to cherish and makes them cherishable so just suit not make that like look like a nice up tailor-made like just it's basically photoshop dude but like i'd love to like when i'm old and i have frame pictures no but what happens when those suits come back and then that picture's like oh chris long had it first look at that yeah i was wearing like conier's line like wearing just a trash bag that's what that's what i decided to wear to the two of the most important days of my

So I got a complimentary suit. Coors Light draft. From my agent when I signed with him. And by time, it was draft day. Yeah. Through training, I couldn't fit it. That's the thing. Like, I got to fit it for it.

It was nice. It has my name inside, all of it. And then I just, I couldn't even get my arms like through the sleep. Can I tell you what's a really good thing to do? If you have suits that don't fit you anymore in a serious note, you can donate them to formerly incarcerated people who are trying to reenter the workforce. Oh, look.

Okay, that's not even a hard, right, serious turn, but that's what I did with those suits. And so some dude, some brick shit house of a dude that just got out, he's like, he's getting a job, you know? Fresh in that job. And he's swole, dude, and he's wearing my fucking draft suit. Feeling good. Some guy that shit, I hope he got his job, dude.

I hope he feels good in my suit because I'm way too small and skinny to fucking rock that. Was there anything you got for free? when you're at the draft. Yeah, a Humvee. I don't want to say a Hummer, a Humvee. Chris remembered later that it was an H2, which is a significantly much lamer than a Humvee.

The NFL draft, there was some deal that we did where, you know, like I had to go to some appearance the night of the draft, and they paid me in an oversized useless SUV. They were like, you had a cool member? They were like, how do you want to be paid? Cash, credit, or giant SUV that. people are going to hate you for driving and I was like I'll take the giant SUV you remember I want to just see if I can conquer conquer the fuck boy vibe the driving a hummer down the street

no but what about the speaker he had a speaker with the with the virginia bro I got it custom I had a couple 12s in the back dude I had a fucking virginia emblem because of course the guy at the speaker shop is like the guy at the speaker shop's like you want to do something like your your initials or a fucking symbol or something, and you're like, I don't know, I guess my alma mater's logo? Like,

how fucking stupid, dude? I sold that thing within six months and turned like a giant profit. So I'm not that smart, like, like immediately,

but it might take me a second, but eventually I'll watch that. You know what else you, I think you, you potentially got for free? What? The, the beanbag you gave me.

Oh yeah, that beam bag. I still have it. Really? Still have it. It's a comfortable ass beanbag. It's unbelievable. I'd rather given that Hummer away than the beanbag.

Yeah. Like, once you, if you realize what the beam bag was, I was like, y'all, he didn't mean to get this. Is it brown? It is, but you can buy covers for it. Yeah, but it's brown. I remember the beanbag. It's huge. I didn't realize what I was doing.

I gave that to you, dude. Yeah. Did you get to your team pretty fast? Do you stay the night in the city still, or do you fly out right away? So I distinctly remember this because everybody knows in college you're not good at waking up after a night of drinking silver bullets or whatever, you know, that night there might have been some hard liquor mixed in, but you're not good at leaving early. You're not good at like getting to the airport early in college. Like you need all eight hours sleep. You might need nine after a hard

night of drinking. I don't know about y'all, but for me, that's the way I was in college. And then now as a dad, like I can pop right up. I need three hours. I need a nap, essentially. I'm a huge nap guy. Yeah. They drove me to the fucking airport. And this, This was after a nap. It was still dark out in New York City. I couldn't get my buttons buttoned on my suit. I remember because you had to go straight to St. Louis the next morning. And my alarm clock went off at 5.50.

We were in a nightclub till, you know, whatever time kids go to a nightclub. And I just remember getting in the car like, holy shit, dude. And, you know, my buttons are all off and I can't tie my tie. And Brian, shout out to Brian. Brian's in the car with me. And we get on a, they don't even fly you private. I don't think. I didn't fly private.

Holy shit, I didn't fly private. What the fuck? Of all the things that the St. Louis Rams did. Second pick overall. Bro, I'm pretty sure it was first class, but it was like a fucking Embraer, dude. What? Yeah, it's like one of those planes that,

that, you know, it's like a tighter first class, man. They didn't even fly me there private, dude. Crack of Dawn. I'm fucking going through TSA. They put Chris on Spirit. put you on a spirit they put me on spirit that was a sign of times to come wow yeah that is crazy at least i stayed in the ritz carlton the last month before they cut me like i went out like a fucking champ i just came in like that is crazy i was going to a conference and how did you get that

gorgeous number 72 in st louis oh man here's what happened right off the plane yeah there was a big parade and they just roll up with like 61 67 70s 70s and like a 79 and they're like welcome to st louis you can choose that's honestly the way it is though read there was no good numbers that year like i went up and down lennar little absolute baller okay leonard little had 91 character was 90 number 92 was eric more number 93 was possibly available adianjou 94 yeah number 95 was clifton ryan shout out to the great clifton ryan was, oh, Jay Hall, big bro. 97, Leroy Glover, that number wasn't going anywhere.

So, yeah, didn't have a lot of options, I guess. CJ IU 98, yeah. I'm looking at like 99, which is like the ultimate, like, weird number for a defensive lineman, especially like a tall white guy. J.J. Watt made it cool, but it's not that cool to wear 99. Debatable. Well, it's way cooler than wearing 72, but I just, I don't know. I just was like, man, I don't see myself in the 99.

And one of my favorite players is OCU and Yora. So I was like, maybe I'll start landing chop clubs or something. You know, like, and was really cool as when I met him, I got to tell him why I wore the number. And he like gasped me up into thinking, I looked cool in it. And I was like, bro, your ultimate good dude. But it took two, three years. And then Leonard Little left.

And I was I in 91 the whole time because I had it in college, obviously. And two, three years down the line, and Leonard retires and Steve Spagnola, who's my dude, I say this every time, he's my guy, but definitely wasn't a huge fan of me, the player, like, when he got there. Like, you know, I think he benched me in, like, preseason and shit and all this stuff, my third year, it sucked. He fucking didn't want me to have 91 when Leonard left.

Like, I called the equipment guys, and I was like, let me have 91. And they were like, all right, cool, like, you got it. And then I got a call from Steve later that night. I'll never forget it. He was like, hey, man, like, he wasn't a dick about it. but he was like, I'd really like it if we just kept that number open just in case Leonard comes back. Like give him a year, which I totally respect.

Okay, yeah. So I had to wait a year, and then eventually switch, and then I had a bunch of people in Missouri mad because they were like, I got to buy a New Jersey. People were really walking around in that fucking ugly 72, and they still do. And so when I see somebody in that number, I'm like, that's a real OG Rams fan, like St. Louis.

I might have to find me at 72 St. Louis. Good luck. You got to get on eBay. Yeah, I figured out. Were any of those vets the first to reach out to you after you were drafted? Who was the first Rams player? I always say this. I got to remember.

I got to go back and try to figure it out. But when I was on the way of the elevator, any moment of like, oh, this is awesome, quickly faded when I ran into like two of the vets who I didn't know by face, they said something to the effect of like, you better get ready to work. And I was like, damn, dude. Yeah, I'm ready to work. work now. Fuck. I'm like out drinking that night at the club. It's like, you know, like in the, in a TV show where the music stops and you just in the person's head, I'm just hearing,

you better get ready to work. I'm just like staring off in the distance. You better get ready to work. Yeah, like people are fucking like there's sparklers and shit and I'm just thinking about getting ready to work. So yeah. Yeah, I think it was just that interaction. But shout out to Corey Chavis and Leonard Little and James Hall, who didn't talk to me for a fucking year but he's now one of my best friends in the world that's the way vets go so anyways that was the course light uh draft segment man i was like we went deep in the draft today draft time is fun man there's a lot of people realizing their dreams i know it's kind of fucking around there a little bit about how how terrible it is to get drafted by you know team is not great but like these guys it's a dream

come true and that weekend you know dreams are being made for a lot of people and then you know certain dudes are gonna that didn't get enough credit are gonna get their credit you know the hard way and dudes like Nate so it's a crazy week man and for guys who get undrafted at the end of the day every person that gets called on draft day they still have to make the team just like you do exactly exactly we just get we get a little more leeway but i will tell you fucking undrafted guys get a ton of respect when they make a team like that's one thing is like the minute undrafted guy makes a team he's like one of the most popular guys on the team because you know what he had to go through so all right well So we'll be back next week.

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