Green Light with Chris Long - Brad Holmes! Detroit Lions GM on ’22 Draft Class & Dan Campbell. Warriors Win NBA Finals & Best Movie Dinner Scenes.

Episode Date: June 17, 2022

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The Greenlight podcast welcomes you. Lots of fun on today's show. Brad Holmes, the GM for the Detroit Lions. Brad and Chris talked to the Lions' 22 NFL draft class, working with Dan Campbell, the transfer scene in college football, and learning the business from Les Sneed when he was with the Rams. We start things off with the Golden State Warriors NBA Finals recap,

talk a little Lego and Playmobile. Then after Brad, we answer a couple topical sports questions, and then dive into the highly anticipated best movie dinner scenes. Best movie dinner scenes. Chris, Matt, and myself will each give our top five. So y'all make sure to stick around for that and enjoy your day. Can you hit one, Matt, please? Yeah, you're good.

Cool. Fuck, you just hit one? Huh? You just hit one every day? Yeah. Just one. All right, Reed, you've got it, dude. You can go back to you.

hit two. Thanks. Just like driving a boat. Yeah, just like driving a boat or a bus. That's right. Or a bicycle. Yeah. All right, Reed. We've got red squares on all three. The timer's rolling. Great. See, you see Reed, you hear Reed here here. He just continues. He's a fucking field general, guys. Reed's here today. Reed's my co-host today. Um, Reed, how's the feel over here in this, in this, on this couch, dude? Feels pretty good. This couch is a nice one. I had missed it because we had done these great live streams during the football season. We parked our rear ends right here. So it's nice. It's a good couch. It's a great couch. Now we might be changing the set around a little bit, but it doesn't mean we're going to get rid of the couch. The couch is going to stay.

Couch should stay, whatever we move it back there. We mount it on the wall or something. We cut it in half, whatever we do. You know, it could be cool if you cut it in half and then it's like a, I don't know what they're called, but not quite a love seat, but the, you want to, you want a sectional? You want to, you want a chainsaw? The, the couch. Anytime I can use a chainsaw, I would, I'm happy.

I have not led you. This couch is expensive as fuck. Right, right. We can buy it. Let's, shout out to Artful Lodger. Let's buy another couch. I'll chainsaw that.

Okay, good. And then we'll see. I have another idea here. I don't want to get, I'm going to say it and somebody's going to have it tomorrow, but school desks. Yeah.

Really plush school desks where, you know, like my ass is sitting on like sheep's wool. But it's a school desk. So we have a place for our laptop. So I'm not getting the radiation on my, you know Johnson

well I'm more worried about the other than maybe I want a third the true that's a team conversation but yeah we may be school desks okay so this is where I will leave space for us to talk about the NBA finals

if the game six is worth the shit I think it will be so you'll probably hear from us in a second at about like midnight right now we are gearing up to watch that game I have no idea what's going to happen me and Matt we're just talking about the way we think the money

is going to be and the money's on the on the on the on the on the on the seas at this point and think uh golden states catching four yeah that's right I hope the season doesn't end tonight I want one more game you as a Celtics I don't know what to call you are you a Celtics fan dude yeah I'm a Celtics fan I just felt like the white podcaster who loves the Celtics was already an established field so I didn't want to get into that isn't that the plot at the ringer yeah okay but yeah no like shout out to Bill Simmons and Ryers so low but But it's like, too, stole our whole flow, bar for bar.

Yeah, no, but it's okay to be a Celtics fan because you know what's going to happen if it goes game seven. No, it doesn't look good for the Celtics. The Warriors are minus 400 to win the series. So I just want another game just for the fun of it. NBA finals, there's nothing going on this summer. I love a quiet championship. That's one of my favorite things in sports. This is the time right before, hey, listen, while I can talk about it,

because maybe they get Golden State gets their ass kick tonight. and this is null and void, but I love, and you guys know this, winning on the road in pro sports. My favorite thing as a player and now subsequently as a fan, I used to as a fan sit there and hope the teams wanted at home, right? Because it's just you deserve that. There's so many fans that have been waiting for it. You love to see like people going nuts and that whole thing.

I think Boston wanted it at home, yeah. Anything is possible, that whole thing. But there'd be nothing more enjoyable than watching like 30,000, quiet people from Boston. Like, when you hear your team celebrating and the mics on the networks pick up every word because it's so fucking quiet in the stadium, I get chills every time.

And you just see sad fans. Post-game celebrations are way better on the road in the NBA, no doubt. Dude, they have to bleep words out and stuff. Like, the guy in the TV truck, you know, he's lording over a game that's, you know, an elimination game at home. Like, he can relax. But if a team wins a championship on the road,

he's got to be ready to hit that like, you know, cuss word button. His motherfuckers are letting loose. And it's just like in football, you can hear 53 guys screaming. Like in every corner of the stadium. That's how it usually was in St. Louis. And it's probably great. You hear that one fan from your team. You got like, you can pick out where those fans are

because all you, the home fans are quiet and they're walking out. You can say, oh, hey, what up to that guy? who's screaming and freaking out. Not when you play for the Eagles. The Eagles fans are like, they are thick, they are deep. I told you about silent count, you know, on the road, playing the Chargers, Philip Rivers in Silent Count tapping his foot up and down. And then they basically took over the Coliseum.

So yeah, but generally true. So I'm hoping the Warriors win this thing. For a team that's won three championships now with a chance to win four, I couldn't hate them less. It's amazing. They have a cheat code for being relatively likable. and if you hate Steph Curry, I think that's probably your problem. Something's wrong with you if you hate Steph Curry. I do not understand the hate for that guy.

If they do common sense gun reform, one of the first things that should happen on the background check is do you like Steph Curry? If you don't like Steph Curry, you shouldn't get, you shouldn't even get like a duck hunting gun. A duck call. You can't even have a duck call. You can even get a fucking slate call if you don't like Steph Curry.

I'm going to go 97, 96, low-scoring, ball game. Nerves are tight. So it's midnight, Studio J. And the, uh, the Warriors just won the whole damn thing. So let's, uh, let's talk about it. Guys, I just want a fucking moped. I had put so much money on the, the Warriors tonight, money line and catching four championship DNA that, sorry, Matt, that I forgot about my series bet, which is awesome. And, uh, man, I just want to say this. One of the most likable dynasties in sports history i was just going through them i mean short of like uh some dynasties i don't know much about like the big red machine they have a cool name or uh you know like i didn't watch baseball enough to really hate tim lincicum or pablo sandival not that i would madison

bumgarner not so much but like the giants are pretty likable from that little era there cool manager bruce bocci like you hit balls into the drinking shit i think this is up there the spurs They're incredibly like, well, I mean, I'm a huge Celtics fan And I can't help but be happy for the Warriors right now Well, you guys like flat out lost that series I mean like they won the series for sure But you know Boston fans can't be mad Well, it all goes back to game four

I mean you're up to one at home The ability to go up 3-1 You know only one team's ever come back from 3-1 In the history of the NBA finals So that game four will probably go down It's the turning point in the season But I mean the real disappointment It was Jason Tatum just

didn't have a good series. And most of the time didn't even look like the best player on his own team. You know, the first player in an NBA postseason history with over 100 turnovers. Like, there were so many times

where he just drove to the lane and just settled for these kind of like weird floating layups where he's avoiding contact. It was often flailing. You know, he needs to get stronger. He's a great player. I love Jason Tatum.

Hopefully this would be a learning experience for him when he's back in the finals next time, but he clearly struggled. St. Louis, dude, love Jason Tatum. But, you know, I disagreed with everything people were talking about with Draymond the other day in his podcast and being distracted. It's a perfect time for the when's Jason Tatum's podcast joke. And I'm not even going to make it with any, like, because I'm not happy to make it, but all these people told me, and speaking of my guy, Draymond, he had a really good

game five, really good game six. He looked a lot more like Draymond. now you had a bad turnover when they were up 12 in that kind of like witching hour there that turned into a three-point play on the other end and I was like oh shit if this goes the other way but my guy maple Jordan comes up with a block the next the next possession and they get back on track but draymond played really well um down the stretch and like showed why he's draymond like he wins in a lot of release you know kind of like he's just a winner he makes winning plays all over the basketball court. Like his stat line tonight was incredible 12, 12, 8, two steals, two blocks,

like, but he was everywhere. It's all the in-between plays. The tip balls, the physicality, like, fouling on literally every single possession to put so much pressure on the officials that they have to allow more contact. It's smart basketball. Dude, and, and, you know, we were looking at that press conference earlier where somebody asked him about LeBron and, you know, preparing for a really smart Celtics team. And, you know, blah, blah, blah. And he did such a great job of answering that question, giving LeBron his due, a guy who he's gone toe to toe with has no reason to gas him up, called him maybe the smartest basketball player in the game's history, while also giving the reporter a nice, nuanced, respectful

answer. And he's going to go on his podcast tonight and do the same and give everybody free, nuanced, you know, you can only get it here type analysis from a guy who was just on the floor and people had a problem with that and tried to attribute that to his poor play. It's like nobody's ever had a fucking slump before. Dude, he had a bad run of three, four games in the finals. And you heard him up on the podium tonight. They were like, what did you learn about yourself? I learned nothing about myself.

I know exactly who I am and I'm a four-time champion. And I just love that about him. So I'm happy for him. I'm happy for Steph, man. Steph got MVP, man. And good for him. Like, right? I mean, probably should have, probably should have had it.

Yeah, I mean, maybe you could argue LeBron should have won it the time. Right. Right. I want it. Or they think he wanted it. Had somebody on the Warriors gotten it like, no shade. But like, yeah. So Steph gets an MVP, which is a big deal.

I know it's a big deal to him. And the first thing he does is he turns around and gives everybody a fucking high five. His teammates looked happier that he won the MVP than they were winning the trophy. They were so genuinely happy for him. This group is one of the all-time happiest for each other NBA teams like ever. I just, I get that vibe, dude. The way Drey talked about Clay, the way people look at Steph, the hug I saw with Wiggins, like a new guy, you know, but like...

Their role players seem happy as hell. Bielitsa Peyton. Like James Wiseman got benched isn't playing at all. He's happy. It's a happy-ass team. is a happy-ass team. It's a well-coached team. And Kerr's got nine rings now.

I forget how many Belichick has, but it's obscene. And not all of those are as a head coach. Now, obviously, not all of Kerr's are as a head coach, but the combination of five as a player, four as a coach. You're getting up there now. And I know he's been a great benefactor in a lot of ways, but you have to respect nine rings. I mean, you have to respect nine rings.

Do those two franchises, dynasties just like remind you of each other at all golden state in new england no new england is thought of as more draconian i would think i mean fucking i saw tony robbins on the bench with the the warriors tonight you know i i do think they do remind me of each other in a way and we were talking about this earlier so if you asked step and it sounded like he said in the post game that this was like a you know this was the sweetest one in so many words this one meant a lot like think about everything they've been through it's been well done documented. But as an athlete, those times are like when you have tough years in pro sports,

they feel like they're 10 years long. And, you know, to watch his friends get hurt, to lose that series, I mean, they could have five rings right now easy if people's bodies cooperated and that sort of thing. This has been a long couple years for them. And they talked about it. So this has to be the sweetest one. What it reminds me of is the Patriots taking a 10 year break between 2005 and 2015, I believe it was, between the Patriots last Super Bowl in the early 2000s and the one that they needed Malcolm Butler to get that pick on the goal line.

If they don't get that pick on the goal line, New England goes between 2005 and 2017, January or February, sorry, of 2017, without a championship. And those are long years for somebody who's tasted it. And I can only imagine for Steph in this group, the hardest one was getting back on the horse. And it's not like another team where you don't know how that feels.

Like these are champions, dude. We say championship DNA. Nothing is fun for these guys after they've tasted that first one. And for there to be three years between two championships has to make it really sweet. Especially for Clay. Like last time he was in the finals, he tore his ACL, doing his recovery, toyers, Achilles. He's not the same player he once was,

but he's battled back and made himself still a good league level starter with elite traits. I saw some people online comparing you to Andrew Wiggins. That was funny. There was a guy. We were doing the Who is. I did a tweet about Chris Weber tweet. I said, is Andrew Wiggins, Tom Brady?

And if so, what does this mean for? And I just cut it off and said, what? because I was making fun of the Chris Weber tweet, of course. And some people didn't get it. And they were like, dude, you're pretty high. I'm like, dude, you're not online much. But yeah, I was doing a Chris Weber tweet, and I was exaggerating after Andrew Wiggins' gorgeous layup,

and we haven't been able to talk about that because of the way the podcasts have been dated, but in game five, he knifed through the lane and split Jalen Brown and somebody else. And it was a big transition bucket. Like, this was deep in the game, and it kind of, it kind of catapulted them a little bit

to put on the afterburners and finish that game. It was a Jordan-esque layup. We were just talking about the layup. Except more necessary to change hands. More necessary. Higher leverage situation as well. To be fair, Jordan had it in his right hand completely.

Wiggins never took it out of both his hands, but put it in his left hand. The difference was Wiggins had to split two defenders that were actually jumping. So anyways, I asked, I was getting hyperbolic because Wiggins, I'm obsessed with Wiggins now, because I'm just so happy for the guy. You know, something to being a high draft pick, right? Going playing for a shitty team.

Some people doubting if you were worth it, the whole thing. I've been there, but still playing good basketball or still playing good football. Yeah, people mercilessly doubted his like work ethic, his basketball IQ, and those clearly weren't the problem. Well, they never did that for me, but the comparison in the mentions was, you're kind of like Andrew Wiggins. Like, you know, like you finish your career a champion and you started in obscurity, a high draft pick that disappointed some.

I hate comparisons because I had the productivity of a top five positional player at my position for a four-year span. I don't think he ever had that. No, but I think he might over the next four years. Like when you think about NBA players, 27 to 29, like generally you're prime and he's 27. I'm pretty psyched for this guy, dude. I'm fucking psyched for him. I don't know anything about him except for that, you know,

You know, like, you know, he disappeared in Minnesota and people questioned his work ethic and all the things you said. But he seems to have bought in and people really seem to like him, man. So another great moment was like Wiggins is up there on the stage and presumably his daughter gets popped up there as he's mid-interview. And it's the biggest moment of his life. And I've been here as a champion where you look down and you see your kids and they just don't realize the gravity of the situation. his daughter, I think, is playing rock, paper, scissors. So that's just a wholesome-ass moment. And what a soft-spoken kid.

He's still a kid, right? Who's got a whole chapter of his career ahead of him. I think that's the biggest difference, you know, if I were to answer that guy's tweet, which is that, like, he's got a lot of time left. He could win more championships and he could cement himself as one of the most important players in phase two of this dynasty. Yeah. And what's crazy about this dynasty is there.

actually set up for phase two because they lost those few years and because of a few different trades that they made they have three high draft picks that didn't play at all this year that have been in their development for a year that are going to be ready to go next year wise men moody and comminga like those are three players that a lot of teams would kill to have and for that reason i actually think the warriors probably open as the favorite to win the title next year and i think that's a hot take but i don't know as much as you i mean like i i just feel like people question the path this year and uh i'll just come out and say it the NBA finals and the the Larry O'Brien trophy it's marred like it's a little bit there's a little bit of an asterisk because

of one great player who wasn't there during most of the playoffs and that is uh chris middleton i thought you're going to say lebrons that's the joke but like how differently does this go of chris middleton doesn't get hurt Milwaukee wins the title if christminton doesn't get hurt but that's any year you can do this you could do that with toronto's championship you know um so anyways man like i'm just super psyched for them and and you you said it like the the personnel moves they've made like they are a real organization a lot of these basketball teams now and they've dabbled in this with kevin durant and and the one and done superstar that like comes in and builds this little mini super super super team like it really feels like they build you know as an organization this guy bob

Myers. I want to congratulate him on a great hairline. It's good looking, man. No, I didn't say good looking. I just said his hair line is down there next to his eyebrows. The fucking guys, he doesn't even have to think about not wearing a hat. Guy can wear a backwards hat anytime, even if it's a, even if it's an adjustable and his hair, his lettuce is always in place. So good for him. But he's also done a good job of accumulating. Real quick on stuff, two things he doesn't get enough credit for. over and over they played against lebron in the finals and lebron hunted him on defense and made him look bad because he's lebron but curry has improved offensively so much and when the celtics hunted him it really didn't work out that well for them and the second thing is like think about the sacrifice it took

to take kevin durant in not win finals and vps have people say you're not the best player on your team when you know you're one of the best players of all time like he doesn't get enough credit for being a teammate. You're absolutely right and I think it comes through. There was some commentary online that he's an ugly crier. I thought it was a thing of beauty man. I'm super happy for him. There's very few pro athletes anymore. I'm so jaded having played professional sports now. I don't get to be a sports fan very much. Like I truly, I see these guys as human beings, not giants, like, you know, and and Steph is he's just

navigated all this stuff with such class and it's Steph brings out the fucking old like play the game the right way guy and me he does dude I'm sitting here like look at what he did he high fived everybody so like I'm 70 years old

plays the game the right way he's just a he's he's he's humble he's the epitome of humble but I don't take shit from anybody and I know exactly who I am and he's one of the best players ever play the game. Definitely one of the best shooters,

but now he can kind of cement himself as one of the best players to ever play the game. Oh, and I told you about fucking winning on the road. That's my favorite thing, dude. So I hope you Warriors fans enjoyed watching them winning games, you know, Game 6 in Boston. What a place. I mean, like...

It wasn't as painful because I felt like that team overachieved a little bit. So the crowd was still like, hey, we're happy to be here a little bit. Hey, down 2-1 and then down 12-2 in Boston. Championship of DNA, man, didn't flinch. Game 2 didn't flinch. Down on a 210 run tonight.

Bro, how about you're the Warriors, you score like 120 points, you get outscored in the fourth quarter by a team that's been, I'm talking about game one, by a team that's been just burning the candle at both ends, and you get smoked by them and you're worn down as the game goes on. You come back game two, you make them feel, your presence, you're down 2-1, you rebound from there, you're down 12-2, game 6. People think things are cliches, championship DNA with this group is not a fucking coincidence.

So congratulations to the Warriors. Sorry, Matt. At least you won a moped. I want a fucking moped, dude. So now back to the time when we didn't know that the Warriors had won their fourth title. I want to say hello to Chesterfield, Virginia, man. This is some good news we got. Chesterfield, Virginia is now the home of a Lego plant, man. Think about this.

I can take my kids. They need to hurry up and build this fucking plant. Honestly. One billion dollars. They better build it quick. Somebody needs to put a boot in their ass to get this going because if my kids are too old to like be excited about, hey, let's drive to Chesterfield to see where they make the Legos, that's going to be a problem.

Now, are they going to build the plant out of Legos or similar looking Lego blocks? Like what if it's just a bit like walls and you can see the lines connecting That would be so cool, really sweet. That would be awesome. But we all know people don't do cool stuff like that. And if you work at the plant, you have to wear a Lego person outfit. You walk in your, the part of your daily attire or whatever, you have to put on the little square head. You have to walk around like this.

Yeah, yeah. You can only, you can only like if you shake somebody's hand, you got to do a little Lego. You see your coworker. you gotta shake their hand like that. You got your head has to be able to twist all the way around. Nobody has a dick. That's good. Why didn't they call us?

They don't have knees. You don't get knees. The holes in your feet. I love Legos, man. You can't wait for this. You have to turn. You have to, your, your torso and your lower body. You have to turn it all at the same time.

You've got to be tiny. Yeah. They get a little liberal with what they're calling Legos now. Nowadays, you could buy like these big Legos. Right. Anyways, I don't want to spend the whole, the whole show talking. I'd be a little more stoke you was a Playmobile plant I was a Playmobile kid grown up playmobile was fucking hipster yeah dude playmo was the

I go to Shinat again shout out and playmobile was awesome but I didn't know they were still rolling in the in the late 90s early 2000s oh yeah oh that I feel like that's when it was at its peak I mean I wasn't around in the 80s bro playmobile was out of control dude in the 80s you should have seen what Playmobile was like in the 80s dude they had I would always, I would make battles between like cowboys and Vikings. Yeah, yeah. And like careful now. Yeah, yeah.

But the Vikings, like, they had to get close, but they would like, would invade the island. And the cowboys had their little. Only in a Playmobile set. Can we ever, they need to make a movie. Right. They need to make a Northman. Play movie. How do they say that with the X at the end of it?

Redo. Redux. Redux. Okay. Why not just say sequel? So people got to. That sounds fucking fancy. Like we're in cons.

But imagine the Northmen roll up on like Houston, Texas. Right. 1878. It's like who would win. Who would win? Yeah, yeah. Who would win book series, not animals. Genghis Khan's crew or fucking Alexander the Grange's crew.

We should ask my brother Kyle. He's a historian. Yeah, right, right, right. He was all over that. That could be a whole other read, read series. rather than animal versus animal. Right. Exactly.

Read predicts who, yeah, dude, we're just hatching segments. Catch these jewels. Nobody replicate this stuff. I mean, it's all copyrighted. It's RIP. RIP. RIP.

Yep. So I don't know how this popped into y'all's heads, but this is a hell of an exercise. We're going to talk about the best dinner scenes and movies. Now, we're going to do that after our esteemed guests coming up here. But I went down a rabbit. hole man and I was hungry when I when I got out of it like some of these dinner scenes made me hungry some of these dinner scenes I thought were a little bit overrated like some of these scenes didn't

age well right there I'm gonna say some things in in the B block of this show that's that might offend some people we got some great responses on Twitter you tweeted out that we were doing the segment some great you know people dove in I'm such a dork I have all the movies I've seen rated on letterboxed so I just went back and looked at all my ratings and tried to remember good movies or good uh dinner scenes you just don't have kids yet that's all that is if i didn't have kids bro i would be doing a lot of shit like that it's fucking it sounds amazing actually my wife's probably you know that meme where a guy and a girl are fighting or when the guy's just staring off into space and they're laying in bed what are you thinking about it's always like something yeah yeah yeah

like for me it'd be like that list she's like you know my wife was was to find out what i would do if my family just left me it'd be stuff like that so matt i admire that that and we'll dive full full full full on into these uh into these movies man dinner i'm all about it so we'll also talk um right after our guests we'll also talk a couple sports sports topics sports topics yeah i love sports topics real quick on on movie and dinner let's say you're going on a date would you rather do dinner followed by a movie or movie followed by a dinner god that's a fucking movie not be included question man just dinner no honestly you want dinner you want dinner than a movie you want dinner than a movie movie then dinner bro gives you

something to talk about oh that's really good dude you guys need stuff to talk about and i'm stealing this from curb your enthusiasm okay got to cut it i don't remember that but i don't remember the scene where it would have been but uh that's a great point geez louise i always think about if you're on a real date my biggest fear with like eating and i never had to do the dating thing like truly you know because I've been so murried so long. Mured. Shout out Meg. Love you. Lovely wife. Yeah. We still go to we still go on dates. We went to the to dinner the other night. But if I eat something that makes my breath smell bad and my wife is next to me, it's not a big deal. Right. We love each other. Yeah. If you're on a date, something ironically about not loving someone

that makes you more worried about your breath. You know what I mean? And my breath is not bad. I hope you guys just tell me because there's a lot of people walking around. that people don't tell them about their breath. But like, when you are single, I would imagine you have to calibrate like what's on the menu where you're going on that date. Because there's some food. There's also food that makes you look not real hot.

Right. Like spaghetti and shit. Right. What do you do? Yeah. It's like you have to think about it. Now, before it was like, oh, I'm going to a business meeting. I can only eat this, this, this, and this.

Now you have to think of that in a date too. That's tough. It's true. It's fucking true. right anyways yeah so i would have thought dinner in a movie to give your your time to get to the car get an altoid or something something of that effect you know maybe sneak a fart in before you get to the movie theater because that's another one is like people are afraid to do that right

again it's the paradox of love you can lean over and be like hey guess what i just did yeah exactly if it's funny dude did you hear that is what i say to my wife which would be a code break at the movies Don't do that at the movies. Don't do it on the plane. No. Will Compton's daughter the other day, code break. Code break. Total code break.

Wanted to respect the guest and not run him off the show. But if he was in that theater and he had brought his baby and I would have very politely asked him to leave. And she had ripped a fart like she did. Yeah, that was bad. Double code break. You can blame it on your wife however much you want. But double code break for Will Compton. So today's guest, Detroit Lions GM, Brad Holmes.

So interesting thing about Brad Holmes is. is he said he would never trade away a good player. Right? Right. What did he just do with Matt Staver? If he hadn't been so gracious with this time. And obviously, even if I'm super cool with Brad Holmes, like, he's a GM, dude. There's some things they don't want to tell you.

And they're very smart. GMs are some of the toughest interviews in sports. Yeah. I mean, they're very. I mean, we've had, I think, three less need Joe Douglas and GMs, had football coaches. They live with like a military mindset. Like they can't tell you where the codes to the nukes are.

Like, you know, they're guarding the 50-second player on the roster. Like they would guard that sort of thing. So Brad Holmes, awesome dude. Great background. Yeah, the background. He was in a coma for three weeks. He almost died. Yeah, in college.

He was a defensive tackle, got a car accident, three-week coma. he wouldn't even be he he used to work for the hawks in 2002 I think it was I didn't know this about him before he got to the Rams where I met him Wilbert Montgomery gave him his start so Eagles fans you know this is like my world's colliding but Wilbert Montgomery who I really didn't know much about but evidently really good player for the Eagles gave Brad Holmes his start and Brad was coming up in Earth City and now crazy enough like fast forward it also when you stop paying attention to somebody's career pass because we kind of do that with front office people and coaches. Somebody will pop up in the news like Matt House, Google Matt House, but he's going to be a head coach someday probably. I remember when he walked into the St. Louis Rams meeting room, he was the assistant D-Line coach. He wasn't even like, I don't even think he had a title.

He was like an intern, basically. He was a defensive quality control coach. He's now the de-coordinator at LSU. LSU, dude. That's legit. And I'm not down in him or Brad Holmes. What I'm saying is it's crazy. When you look up after 15 years,

you realize how hard and how long people have been working in the NFL and in college football. It takes a long time to climb those ladders. So happy for Brad Holmes. Okay, so Brad Holmes, guys know me for a very long time. The right draft pick can take your team to the playoffs and beyond. When you're scouting prospects, you need a powerful partner. You need Indeed.

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legend for that dude it was a little outside the box when i got here but i was like man we need to liven this thing up a little bit, man. Yeah, you're the first GM I've had on this got a mural behind you, and that's, I think that's a good sign, dude. Hey, I appreciate you coming on, man, and it's great to see you, and congratulations on everything. I've been super psyched for you. Thanks, man.

I appreciate you having me on, man. You know, hopefully you do know, I've always been a huge fan, man. I appreciate you, man. So I can't speak highly enough for you, man. I want to start with the story that I heard on, on Eisen, the water jug thing. He said, I had a water jug. Aidan Hutches had a water jug. You were like, they were like, that's the same guys.

So you know where you, you know where I saw that water jug? So it was, it was at the combine. So I was a combine scout. And so I used to do like, I used to do all the POA tapes, the point of attack tapes. And so I did your point of attack tape. And that's when I was like, okay, I'm huge fan. Man, like, I love this dude. So then my job at the combine was to be at the airport.

Yeah. And so you came, something happened with your flight, where your flight got delayed or something. I don't know if you remember this, but you got to the combine really late. Yeah. Red flag. Red flag.

Yeah. He can get his own limo or whatever straight to the hotel. But you actually showed back up the next morning and, like, was very compliant. and like did the right thing. And I was like, I'm even more a fan of this. There we go.

But you had the water jug right there. And that was the first time we met in person. I was like, all right, he's all about business doing the right thing, man. So when I saw him with the water jug, I was like,

oh yeah. That's so funny when you said that because it like brought back memories. I was trying to remember how much I actually can recall from that whole process. How did I interview generally? What was the word on how I interviewed? Oh,

everything was super positive. It was like A plus intangibles, everything. Okay, good. This is good. Yeah, it was all good. But no, when you showed up at that place to meet at the airport, where you could have easily just like, I'm getting on limo or shuttle, but like you show them like, you didn't have to do that.

There you go. No, I was just afraid to fuck up, man. That just means I have a dad that disciplines me, you know, that actually grounds me and shit. So there you go. All right. I don't know if you heard this story at the combine. I stuffed tissue paper in my gloves to try to get a higher vertical and they caught me.

I did not hear about that. Okay, good. But I would be shocked to hear about that because, I mean, man, you kind of always did things the right way. That is the right way. I'm a little disappointed, actually. I'm trying to get drafted. That is the right way. That's so good, man.

Is there any, like, I know, you guys had a great draft by all accounts. You got the guys you wanted. but like before the draft, I'm always very interesting when I talk to people I know about the combine because, you know, there's so much talk about which metrics are the most important, which are the least important, what's overlooked, what's under-emphasized? Like, I know there's drills that I think are under-emphasized. Do you think that there are drills and metrics that are under-emphasized that you guys key in on without giving too much away? And then the opposite are there drills and metrics that you're like, I'm over this. Yeah, you know, that's a great question because I think that's evolved over time.

where if you asked me that question like 10 years ago, I'd say, well, look, I just need to see the 40, the vert, you know, the broad and in the shuttles. But I think with the incorporation of analytics and how we use analytics, now, you know, there's models ran where certain positions has shown certain success, whether it's through playtime or whatever, based on some of those testing drills. So, I mean, whether it's, it's, it's, if it's offensive line and for short shuttles or something like that. So I think that's evolved over time. So we kind of take it case by case and by position. And then also is this, you know, is this case by case for player too? So if it's a certain player, that's like, you know what? I know this guy's fast in a straight line,

but you know, I'm kind of questioned the change direction. Like we may just focus on that a little bit more. If he runs a fast forward, he jumps high and does a lot of linear testing things to a high degree you kind of expect that like okay how was a guy changed directions and sometimes the player might not do it and then that's probably another sign of okay he's hiding something you know right it's like a game of cat and mouse you're trying to figure out where the cracks are yeah yeah to a degree yeah and how hard is that to like get that information from people i had less on i think i asked and this was like you know you're going to these schools like it's in their best interest to tell you the truth or

it's in their best interest to gas these players up, which one? Yeah, I mean, I think it depends on what time you ask them. So when they're still depending on those players, then they might gas them up and give you, you know, let's just say the company line. Now, it'll vary by which your trust level of a trusted source is at the school. But, you know, I always found like, you know, sometimes at a pro days where those players have kind of moved on,

then the tune might change a little bit and say, well, Why don't you tell me this when I talked to you back in October? Yeah, because I guess what play that, that worst case scenario out is the player here is that the coach is down in their ankle flexion or something. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it could be to that degree, but it always, it's a very strategic process in terms of where you gather that information and when you get it. And like I always talk about, like just intangibles and characters, it's like building.

building a house to the draft and then like starting from the year before and training camp it's just you got to keep building it and talking to more people and um eventually the smoke will clear and you'll you'll get what you need this year i think the you know like you got your guy at two hometown guy like the whole thing you guys really liked him you could tell um you got pascal who we were talking about leading up to the draft that kid's a freaking stud um and then in the middle you you you end up with your white whale, dude. You guys got the guy that you really wanted to snag. Go into that process of like,

hey, we're going to draft a guy that's hurt in Jameson. He's going to sit maybe for a while. Do you have to kind of go through the owner on that one? Is that a thing that's like it's got to be really collaborative? Because, hey, we're doing us. Yeah,

that's pretty much how we run everything here is everything is kind of through collaboration. And we want to have clear, open, honest communication. all the way from the top down, and I just think that's how it should be, but especially with Jameson, that was one that, you know, I had to kind of change my stance on a little bit

because I kind of had, just because of the injury, I kind of had them kind of in a separate box, you know, throughout the process. And I knew how talent he was and how explosive he was, but I knew it was a game change, but I was like, he's got that injury,

and I'm like, man, you know, you're drafting, you know, you got to go to get him in the first round. Yeah. But I had to kind of get myself out of that rigid, stubborn, almost kind of archaic mindset because just the ACL injury and medical advancement has evolved so much over time that you can't, you can't look at it the same way. And I had to check myself in the mirror and say, you know, like, is that a lazy way of

thinking of just going to, like, you're just going to not overlook them, but kind of keep him in his box. but when I took him out that box and just stacked them with those other wide receivers on a fair plane, that's when it came very, very clear and evident that he was a guy for us. Do you remember what your first thought was watching that game live? Did you watch the Natty live where he blew his knee out? And, you know, because I remember everybody's first thought is April, you know, like, and just heartbroken for the kid.

But you're the one that can actually, like at that point, you have no idea what you're going to do in April. But are you sitting there thinking, like, poor kid? It was devastating. It was devastating. And, you know, at that time, I remember our college director Dave Sears. I think they're playing like Texas A&M. We were somewhere like, we may have been in Minnesota somewhere. And that's when I think he ran a kickoff and turned back for a touchdown. And then like Dave was like, this Alabama kid, I'm telling you.

And then so then that's when I started getting really, really excited about him and digging more deep into him. But seeing that injury, it was just crushing. And I just felt so bad for him. Just, you know, everything that he went through at Ohio State and the season that he was having and the game that he was having and all of that. And it all comes down. But just kind of diving more into his intangibles, his resiliency, his passion for the game. And no doubt that he'll bounce back. Yeah, the ACL is way different than it was even, you know, I feel like in the early 2000s, the way they look at this thing.

I mean, and forget about the 80s and 90s. I mean, that's a death sentence in the 80s and that sort of thing. So it's really cool that you guys took a chance And you had the latitude to take a chance And yeah, like I heard you talking about your your motive thinking with the saints And how they might be thinking how that gave you hope That maybe he might fall You guys made a trade with the Vikings to get from 32 to 12

In division Is that a thing? Like do people You know, are you like, I don't know if they're going to do this Because we're in the NFC North I mean we saw Parker get traded in division From Miami to New England this offseason And what is the code there? Is there some kind of GM code with indivision trades?

That's a great. That's a great question. Great point you bring up. Because we're talking about how the ACL injury, like how it's been viewed, it's kind of been like, oh, stay away. And then how that's evolved with the medical advancements. Right. I just think that indivision trading, I think that that's become a little bit of an archaic way of thinking.

Just because, you know, just as much as like we're making a trade. trade and just as much as Quasi in Minnesota is understanding, okay, whoever we select at 12, he's going to have to play this player well. I'm thinking the same way, like, he's gaining multiple starters in this trade. And we've got to play those players, too. So you got to come to grips with both of it. But, you know, at the same time, we're both getting better. So I just think it's kind of, and it actually got turned on to me last year.

It going into my first draft was, you know, there are some GMs within the division that, you know, I spoke with. And even for the Stafford Trade and all that about like, you know, they kind of felt that way. Like, look, man, that's an archaic old, old school way of thinking. And so then, like, I give a lot of credit to Quasi in Minnesota because he came out and he was very open-minded and for thinking in that approach. and I kind of think I'm the same way. And so I think that's why I was able to happen. Well, yeah, you don't want to outwardly say, I'm too afraid to trade a guy that I don't think is good enough to help us.

I mean, like, I'm afraid to get beat by the guy that I can't get something out of or that there's better capital on the other end of this thing. Like, that would be a weird admission to say, like, I'm afraid to trade Devante Parker because he's going to torch us. Well, then keep him. You know, so I, you know, it's interesting. I always wondered about that indivision. You know, I will say this on this one, that's one,

what was, I even had this, you know, not trying to give it too much, but a lot of those players that they ended up taking, you know, with, you know, 32 and in the, like, it was players that we had heavy interest in. Yeah. So I understand. Now I'm looking at this,

we got a line down versus guys. Yeah. Guys that if we stayed at 32 and 34, like, those are guys that were right, right there in the wheelhouse. Yeah. So, you know, They got some good football players. So you had, I mean, this year it feels like I know you alluded to the fact that last year you were watching Waddle because you wanted Sewell, which really worked out great.

And I love Sewell for a second if I could. It's very interesting how quickly somebody wants to write a pickoff in today's NFL. Like he had a bad preseason or, you know, somebody wasn't complimentary of him in OTAs or there was some talk about what side of the field he was supposed to play. and the fact that also some guys aren't as good on one side of the field as the other side of the field. Like talk me through the Sewell process internally. Did you all hear the noise as it began? And then how satisfying was it to see him kickstep and just dominate? Yeah, you hear it.

You just can't really, you know, give it too much attention. You know, what we knew about Sewell is that, you know, he was coming off an opt-out and he hadn't played. And so when he was getting back to it, and he had been a left tackle, and then we had him at right. So he missed the year, and then he's switching sides. You know, so we knew it was going to be as a talented and gifted as he is. And as all ball as he is, I mean, we knew it was going to be a little bit adjustment. So I want to say it was like the Pittsburgh, maybe like the Pittsburgh preseason game, you know, I think like Melvin Ingram or somebody kind of gave him some good rush.

And, you know, I, but Dan and I thought he needed that. Like, he needed to go through that. It's the best time to do it. Just knowing what his makeup is, he just got better and better and better, man. Did he remind you of anybody coming out? Oh, man, that's a really good question. That's a really good question. I will say guys that I've done in the past, he really didn't.

Yeah. Just because of the, I will say in terms of athleticism, athleticism and power. You know, when I did Joe Thomas coming out, he had similar athleticism and power, but he was just a little bit different. Just kind of just his style, just kind of his build. You know, he kind of was not as tall, not as long, but just the way that he carried his movement and the way that he used his length, which is something completely different than I had evaluated. Yeah, he seemed like a little bit more of a road grader. Like when he gets out and really latches on to people, it's like it's a bad deal.

Yeah, no. And that's the unique part about it because he was, he's like he's got that road grade. He can move. He can move people. He's got power. But when he gets out in space, man, he can really move and dance. And that's pretty unique. So, yeah, I don't know who the backup was last year if you didn't get Sewell.

But how about this year? Because I haven't heard you say if your worst nightmare came true, you guys trade up to 12. and the Saints feel like they have the latitude to draft Jameson, then what the hell were you all going to do? Yeah, no, I mean, we would have stayed in picked. Obviously, we wanted Jameson, but, you know, you know, there was other, you know, there's other receivers that we had, you know,

stacked fairly, fairly close, you know, obviously behind Jamison, but they were close enough in the grade that, you know, we would have went there or even possibly another position. Luckily, it worked out. Sometimes the draft guys just smile on you. What did you think about the kid from USC? Because he was such a unique body type.

And he said he's not going to run. He didn't run. What do you think when you hear that? Is the tape good enough? Yeah. You know, there's a lot of, you got to watch the tape, obviously, and say, you know, well, if he's not running or if speed is a little bit of a question or a concern, how much does that really impact his game?

And the way that he plays his game with a lot of, you know, contested catches being a rebounder 50-50. And, you know, I think he moves well enough. And, you know, he's got the footwork, his ability to bend. So I totally understood why he was the first one going. Who do you think was more excited after a pick? Randall L. after you guys snagged Jameson or Mike Waffle in the Aaron Donald War room? That's a great one.

very, very similar. It might be Mike Waffle, man, because I just, you know, Mike Waffle always preach, you know, size, size, size. You know, I remember when he first got there and he was talking about, you know, you and Quinn and, you know, Brock and all these guys. Kendall Langford. Oh, Kendall Langford.

I mean, all those guys. Big dudes. And he was like, man, you'll have a great defense line. I've done a wonderful job. When then Aaron Donald comes in, he's opposite from a size. standpoint that Waffles's been saying, but man, he just a hell of the football player. Is that how it

went down? Did he really walk? Fish told me a story. He walked in the room and just slapped his name on the board and then walked out. Yeah, I can't remember if he slapped the name on the board. I just think that he just came and he just kind of made a statement of like Aaron Donald

that and I was just like, okay. Right. Yeah. I did it, you know? You likened the Jameson thing to Steve Kime, not wanting to watch Kyle Murray, right? Because Kyler, he's like, I just drafted a quarterback. Might as well not watch this guy, but we know how

the rest of the story goes. Like, have there been players that you legitimately knew you had no chance of drafting and you were like, fuck this, I'm not watching this guy's tape. I like him too much. I don't want to be. Like, who's a guy in the past couple drafts? So you were like, man, I just, I wish.

You know when I kind of learned to practice that patience and kind of discipline, to kind a boy that is the time with the Rams is that, you know, back when I was in LA, you know, did not have first round picks. And so, you know, there's certain guys that's like, don't, like, don't bother, don't tease yourself. And so like, let's used to have those guys is like, look, don't even waste our time. Like, let's just go to the next tier of guys. And I thought it was a good practice of patience and discipline just to not even put yourself in there because

you might see a guy's like you might force you to do something irrational. I do totally and it was so funny because I hit up Les and I was like man I'd love to have you on sometime like around the draft and like after you know and it's a busy time for y'all and I almost forgot because Les hit me back and was like let's do draft week and I almost feel like less was flexing on the fact that he didn't have to to work that week and if any of the GMs or other people in the football world saw him they'd be like this motherfucker dude he's just doing podcasts. You should have saw him last year.

We were FaceTiming, like, maybe a week before the draft. And I'm like, drinking out of a fire hose. Everything is going crazy. I'm like, I'm like, what the first year guy, anxiety, all that? Like, Les is like in his office with his feet kicked up. Just kind of calm as ever just like, hey, man, just saying, I'm just like, what the, well, you know he's calm anyways.

Yeah, but it's like, you know, he's got it under control. But man, those guys do a hell of a job. They've obviously set a standard. Les, Les taught me so much about, you know, how to do it the right way. And we can only hope to emulate some of those results that they've had. But I got a lot of respect for how those guys do it. Is there one thing rubbed off on you from Les? It's not lighting draft capital on fire.

But like maybe, you know, something that he told you that stuck with you, that you're like, I can apply that with regularity? Yeah, you know, it's always, he's always have a saying of, you know, and it's saying that you probably heard before, but it's always keep to maintain the main thing, you know, and it's, it's, it's football. And, you know, you're, you're getting football players. So as much as all these analytics comes in and all these different ways of how the process is evolving, you know, just, hey, keep the main thing to maintain.

And, you know, do you like the football player or not, you know? And just you can simplify a lot of things. It's a very intricate and detailed process, but that's one that he's always taught me. And, you know, just the ability to be concise, be concise and inefficient, you know, and kind of just, you know, I kind of cut down to the point and kind of just if you can eliminate as much noise in the process as possible, you know, I think that's that that bodes well for you.

So those are some of the things that I learned a lot from him. HBCU guy made a promise that you were going to draft an HBCU guy. He got a dude from where Jackson State. Jackson State. How much does that promise mean to you? And what more can we do to showcase the talent that exists at HBCU football schools? Yeah, you know, and I didn't really promise. I didn't really make a promise.

I just wanted to make sure that I afforded those opportunities and, you know, made it a reality. And especially coming off the year before where there was no HBCU players selected. And then, you know, we had a nice little run going up to that. But, you know, I just saw, again, just when the stars aligned, it just happened to be that James Houston was a player that we had a lot of love for throughout the process. And the guy that I kind of found out a little bit later on in the process, you know, kind of when he started the All-Star games and, you know, kind of diving a little deeper into his production at Florida and all that stuff and his versatility.

But the more and more so, all I say with James Houston, like any HBCU players, like, they truly have to earn it. Yeah. They really have to earn. I've always said, you know, when you're coming out of HBCU, you got to check every scene. single box like you be like you you you're not a position to have a bad all-star game you can't go do do bad at the pro day you can't like you have to earn it every single step of the way and so i thought that's what james did and uh it was which happened to be in position to get them is it you know we're

talking about small school guys how about guys that bounce around three four schools now you know the transfer portal's wide open how does that affect the way you guys you know because i think there's also a conversation i wanted to get to it but we might run out of time here but like the context that with which you judge veteran NFL football players in different scenarios, you now fucked up somebody's situation could be, and vice versa. You can be in a great situation. In college, you get to see guys now playing for three, four different programs in some scenarios. How do you like hone in and say, what do I disregard? What do I pay attention to? And how do I sit through this contextual mess? Yeah, no, that's a great point. And I think what

It does. It forces you to evolve a little bit on your college scouting coverage process in terms of kind of, you know, you have, everybody's got their areas, and then they have your national scouts, your cross-the-scouts, and then your directors, and over-the-top guys kind of go out. But it does force you to kind of look at, okay, well, do we need to evolve how we're doing this process? because it's only going to get, I don't want to say worse and worse, but it's only going to continue to increase of the amount of exposure. But it doesn't, and the big picture,

like I was saying about Lessneed, about keep the main thing, the main thing, at the end of the day, the way that that guy played football in, you know, the Murray State uniform versus the way that guy was playing football

in the Texas uniform. I mean, is that guy playing hard? Is he, you know, is he instinctive? Is he competitive? Is he play with a high motor?

Is he play the game the right way, such as how you played the game the right way? Like, he's either doing that or not. Right. And so I just think it's good to see if he has, you know, similar or equal production, especially if he goes to a higher level through the transfer portal. But end of the day, man, either the guy's a good football player or he's not. Is he consistently who he is, you know? Absolutely.

Because you don't want a fair weather guy either. No. You know, so I, I, last thing here on, on the, the Lions man like Dan Campbell I've been a big fan of his since he since he took the podium the first day I don't care about biting knees I care about do players believe in you and the ammo on him since New Orleans was he's a guy that can get down in there in the locker room and guys really fuck with Dan Campbell and you know and I think that became apparent through the year was there a moment where you felt like the locker room really bought in or was it just this

continuous grind because it's hard to get up there after losses. Like I saw coaches consistently have to get up there and give the same speech in St. Louis after, hey, we're going to turn this thing around. We're going to turn this thing around. That's the hardest job in football. You just gave the speech last week. So what did Dan do to have people buy in? I think that's more like it's equity that's built up over time. It wasn't like just the one defining moment. I just think it's a lot of stuff that people don't see at the podium in terms of how he is with the players during the week, you know, just kind of those personal interactions and his consistency, his is being, him being genuine, authentic. I just think that all players just

respect, just that honesty, straightforward direct, but also he cares about all of his players. So I think that how he's built that and being consistent, you know, ever since day one since he started, I think that, you know, when we had those tough losses last year and things were getting dark, you know, I believe that's why the players were still believing in everything that he said because he basically delivered on everything he said. And he understands that, you know, look, we might have some bad luck here or there and we might not always get the results we want. But him staying consistent, always honest, always genuine, always authentic. I just think you can't you can't ask for more. I truly think the guy just, he's a special, he's a special head coach,

and he's got elite traits. And it's not really just coaching. I just, he just has elite traits as a human being. And so I think that's why it's just such a natural transition to how you coaches. And a couple of awesome things you guys coming in together. That's a big deal. Like GMs and head coaches have to work in concert. That's what I always hear.

And then if they start at the same time, that's even better. And then on top of that, you got a ton of former players on that stuff, which is really cool. Some of them I know. So that's like a recipe for getting players to buy in 100%.

Okay. Last question. This is the bad one, Brad. Would you have traded Barry Sanders when Barry Sanders won it out in 19th? Welcome to Detroit. Here's a sound bite. Hey,

I am not going to trade away good football players. I'll at least try not to especially special ones like that. So I had to hold on to those ones. Okay. Okay. As much as possible. All right, cool. I was thinking about, hey, when I found out I was coming on his podcast, I was going to share like a bittersweet moment of like as much of a fan I was of you.

I don't, I'm not sure if you remember, it was like when you were playing for Philly. Yeah. And then you all were playing in L.A. Yeah. And it was, it was a night game. Big time game. It was like, I think it was decided. if home field oh my gosh and like it was the most bittersweet chris long memory i have ingrained

in me is that when you got that sack fumble at the end dude i was just like i mean you just basically just crushed the season and i was man something something and i love this dude did definitely i love y'all man it was hard it was hard the year before i remember and i was in new England and y'all came up there and naturally the Patriots won like because they were really good and y'all were rebuilding a little bit retooling I remember after the game it was so weird I was like in the locker room with William Hayes like it was like I never left like well was like come back to the locker room see the guys I'm like this is fucking weird but I feel like I'm still on the team in a weird way but I'm just excited I'm excited for those guys I'm excited for you man I think you know if you

if you came up in earth city you got a little something different you got a little something different and in your core, man. So I'm super psyched for you, Brad, man. I love your whole program. You know a power plant or see. He kind of builds something in your system a little bit. Yeah, well, one way or another. Hopefully it's not an Aaron Brockovich situation.

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Rocking off with some questions here. Not quite a six-pack. We're going to do an IPA four-pack. IPA four-pack. IPA-4-pack, nice beers, tall boys, but not quite six, four, and maybe with a shooter. You got an IPA you like, Reed? No.

Crunchy-ass. I don't know. I'm not quite an IPA person. Really? The PBR with a lime. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, South Street Satan Pony is very good. Okay.

Local spot here. And Devil's Backbone has a couple good ones. I maintain that one of the best buzzes in the world is about six IPAs and a joint. That's right. Because you did the river float last year with some IPAs, which you had done. Did I do some IPAs on the river? Yep. We talked about that.

Little heavy for the river. Yeah. Probably why I don't remember that. Yeah. But go ahead, read. So, Chris, you used to play for the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, I did. Are you happy that you are not going to have to deal with their,

updated watermark. Listen, buddy, it's not a good thing when people are paying attention to your watermark. It's kind of like if Macon were here, this would be a slam dunk, like, let's break down the watermark to a T. But it's just ugly. I mean, like, I think they could run a contest, you know, like some prize contest where if you, if you're the person, you get like a million dollars. Right.

And nobody would say there's a one person that likes this water. Right. This is terrible. Usually I'm afraid to criticize my former teams, like, you know, get gratuitous in that way. And I've held my tongue on Carson Wentz at times. I mean, Jalen Hertz has a bad game. I don't try to kill him, you know? Right.

But this watermark is the worst thing I've ever seen. And I'm looking on the site right now, and it's probably, I'll just come out and say it's the worst font in the NFL. Yeah, I agree. I mean, the Jets and the Steelers, what they have right now, as their watermark isn't great. What? The Steelers?

Are we looking at the same watermark? Yeah. I don't... No, that's 1980s. That's way in the past. We don't need that. This is akin, well, they're spoken like a guy

was born in 1994. 93. Oh, wow. And I don't like the line straight through. I mean, because what is the point of that? Buddy, this is up and down. It's like your curly fries take. You don't like curly fries from Arby's.

But that turned out to be true. And you don't like the Steelers. They're peeing in Arby's. There's no correlation there. I mean, listen, the Buccaneers These are all, like a lot of these are basic A lot of these are basic Like Las Vegas

Honestly, you don't like the Las Vegas Raiders It's just block Block letters like it's not cool Are you trolling me? This is one of the most beautiful fonts I'm calling Macon That's the only time you'll say You'll hear me say this

I'm calling Macon on his vacation We really should have Macon call in To talk about these This Raiders take I mean I'll take the Jaguars carnival font over this. This gentrified. Yeah, Jaguars is awesome.

This is what this font looks like. It's gentrification, man. That's what this font is in Philly. This is a Fishtown font. Yeah, it's not good. It's a fission font, dude. And even scrolling through these, even looking, I'm disappointed in the Denver Broncos one.

You didn't even know what their watermark was. Yeah. And you can't even read Denver. The Broncos one looks like an eye chart. Yeah, exactly. Look at the Denver Broncos. Big ass letters, little ass letters. And they're backwards.

Broncos Denver. Right. If they had done it like Houston, that would be okay because the city's a little bit bigger and it's on top. But yeah, you don't want to read Broncos Denver. And some of these watermarks are very, very, are we even calling it the right thing, watermark, Matt? Yeah, I think so. I think the commanders is the worst in the NFCs, yeah. At least with the commanders, it looks like the font on the side of like an aircraft carrier,

which are cool except Draymond Green might not like that. So he doesn't want to play basketball. and one of the motherfuckers he just said. Exactly. I don't blame when the ball rolls off the side. What do you do? Well, the ball floats. Right, the ball floats, but you're going to have to go get it.

Ball overboard. So all I'm saying is, Reed, you got, we're not parking our cars in the same garage, but for 26 years, man, the Eagles had this old big, fucking aggressive, winged font, man. It was awesome. It was so 90s. It made me think of Weapon X and Donovan McNabb and Westbrook and all those guys and the Axe Man. And holy shit, I'm getting nostalgic. I didn't know. When I was a kid, I didn't know I would play for the Eagles and get lucky enough to win a Super Bowl with that team.

But I loved that fucking team. They were just fun. This reminds me a Del Curry and Sonia breaking up and then him bringing that woman to the game. The way the way the internet felt about that is how I feel about, I'm not saying I feel any kind of way about that. I'm just saying the way the internet felt about Del Curry and Sonia and the new lady. That's how I feel about this logo. And I'm kneeling during the anthem until they change this back. I'm protesting. All the terrible things. going on in this country. The chiefs and the jets have the same thing going on. It's like that effect in PowerPoint when you're taking away the picture and it's like whoosh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, wiping it off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was a beast on PowerPoint. Only A. I ever got in my, in my high school career, I think was on PowerPoint. Powerpoint. About earthquakes. Oh. That's how, did you have to do like history of earthquakes? The curious of, you're getting good at this, dude. Yeah, but you see how interested he acted when I said earthquakes.

But like natural disasters is kind of a cool, like... Well, to be specific, there was an earthquake in Missouri of all places that was like off the charts on the Richter scale. I can't remember exactly where it was, but Miss Petros gave me a 106. Talk about a fucking, you know, a sympathy 106. That's a sympathy 106 there. All my grades are like a 60 all year and then I get a 106. So the other day, two NFL Hall of Famers, one commented on the credentials of of another. We had one of them on our show and he talked about how nice it was to have the first

guy welcome him into the Hall of Fame. We're talking about Tony Bisselli and Bruce Smith. Yeah. Bruce Smith questioned Tony Bisselli's Hall of Fame resume if he really deserved it. Did he though? Did he question it? You know what I mean? Like yeah. So he's because the quotes I thought I saw the way I thought it went was Bruce put out a statement. Tony Bisselli, who people don't know was in the league like six, eight years. But he was a dominant tackle for the Jaguars. And one of the things that probably to Bruce Smith's chagrin factors into him getting into the Hall of Fame has been his record against, you know, maybe the best pass rush of all time. Right. And there was a 1996 playoff game that's become like famous where Bisselli, I guess, locked Bruce Smith down. That's

what they say. I'll get back to, you know, the dangers of saying things like that in a minute or two. But I think the thing that Bruce takes issue with specifically is not Bisselli getting into the Hall of Fame unless I missed a quote, but more so the fact that that one game is being used to bolster so heavily his Hall of Fame resume. Exactly. He also, so the whole quote, the Hall of Fame is an exclusive fraternity that follows a code of conduct which fosters respect and brotherhood between its members. Given the opportunity, any Hall of Famer could use his credentials to boast about his dominance over another member, but such behavior is deemed inappropriate because of the friction and discord it could create within the group.

Maintaining harmony and goodwill in the Hall of Fame is paramount and it is precisely why player campaigns have historically been presented respectfully and thoughtfully, allowing the candidate's stats and complete body of work to speak resoundingly for itself. Resorting to underhanded tactics like targeting a Hall of Famer and hyping a one-game matchup to bolster an nominee's merit, as some of Tony's supporters have done, undermines the integrity of the Hall's election process. So in addition to him saying that that one game was too overused in Tony's Tony's nomination process, he also said Tony playing with the left-handed quarterback

and Mark Brunel, he wasn't protecting Mark Brunel's blind side. Yeah. And that's doing the very thing. This is where, you know, I'm not with him. Is that like, although he has a point on the one game thing, like we should not use one matchup to bolster somebody. I mean, unless he's got everything else and, you know, you're on the fence about a guy and he holds up against one of the game's greatest ever on the other side of the field.

Like I just am not a big fan of using one game. Right. So I get that and maybe he feels a little annoyed that it's been overblown. And there is a danger to just using like shorthand phrases like lock down Bruce Smith in 1996. By all accounts, he put him in a straight jacket. But like as a rusher and I'm sure as a receiver or a corner, sometimes we oversimplify and overboiled down how a matchup went down. Right.

because of a stat. You know, there were games where I dominated a tackle and had no sacks. Right. Like more often than not, my best games, I had no sacks. I had like five hits, four pressures, whatever. So the point is I get that part of it, but Bruce is making the point in order to keep, you know, house business in the house. And ironically, house business is kind of getting out of the house as a result.

So like maybe let somebody else make that point. At the same time, these are like two adults at dinner and I'm trying to stay out of it because I'm nowhere near a Hall of Famer. And I don't want to argue with these guys. It's also amazing that the biggest group of alpha males in the history of sports in America, like, and the alphas of the alphas have managed not to do this. Right. So Bruce, I agree in spirit, but it's kind of like that's what's happening inadvertently here.

Exactly. We're having some discord and friction. And while he says, you know, oh, he didn't protect his blinds, Bisselli still went up against some of the best players in... I think he's a Hall of Fame. We had him on here. I was super psyched that Tony Bicelli got in the hall. And Bruce Smith is really freaking cool for a damn hokey.

I met him in a bar once and he was so damn cool. And I don't think he's being... Well, I don't know what he's being. Right. But I'll just say this. Like, this hasn't gotten ugly. I hope it just doesn't get ugly. I hope it's just, you know, a statement.

And maybe Bruce feels the need to clarify at some point. Or maybe he doesn't. And we just leave it at that because these are two. of the games best ever. And I also thought there was a mutual respect between them. And maybe there still is and Bruce is trying to be nuanced, but I think like it kind of does what he's hoping doesn't happen. Right. And, you know, when Bacilli was on in February, he talked about how it was great. He didn't have, you know, much of a relationship with Bruce Smith when they played. But then when he went to the hall, when it was announced, Bruce Smith welcomed him

on stage and announced. Hey, play that clip, Reid. walking on the stage at honors Bruce Smith introducing me. It was coolest. Amazing. In 96, we're playing the bills in the playoffs. They have four hall famers, future hallfamers on their roster. Bruce Smith was defensive MVP. Yeah.

And here we are. Kevin Gilbright, the offense coordinator time, basically looked at me. He says, you're going to block Bruce Smith today or on Sunday. I'm like, and that's it. Like, that's all you could come up with and all the hundred hours of meetings you guys have as as coaches. Like, you're trusting me. And so, and I remember watching film on him, as all of us do.

And I watched every game that year. And no one had blocked him. Like, he was just wrecking havoc, just killing people. And I remember walking out going, like, here we go. We're going to find out whether you belong or not. And we battle. It was just a crazy one-on-one battle. And we battled.

We played a few more times throughout his career. And we didn't have any relationship. Like, for a while, like, he wouldn't even answer questions about me. That's wow. And so we had no relationship. So like you can imagine when I came out, I had no idea who was introducing me at honors, no clue.

Yeah. Like, because every other Hall of Fame or like someone played from their organization is in the Hall of Fame. Like there's no Jaguars. Like there's no one else. And so I had no idea what they were going to do. So I walk out, it's Bruce Smith. And I'm like, okay, this is really damn cool, first of all.

And probably one of my favorite moments is he comes up on, stage afterwards and with all the other Hall of Famers and he came and gave me a big hug and said welcome to the team welcome to all fame so Tony Bisselli five Pro Bowls three first team all pros member of the 1990s all decade team

91 career games so a little like you know I mean we mentioned it only you know a couple year career well more than a couple years but shorter career but impactful when he played it was he was incredible a la you know Sterling Sharp or Torelle Davis shooting star kind of player

In the last point, Bisselli does have the backing of Anthony Munoz, a couple of the other games best tackles. I don't think anybody's arguing that he should be in. Hopefully, I think what Bruce is saying is he's probably tired of hearing it. And I just think when you put it out in a statement, if somebody asked Bruce and pinned him down here, that's the thing about quotes. Right. You know, like, how did the quote come about? is such an interesting and often like left out piece of context. When you see a quote or you read a story,

make sure you know how the quote came about because if somebody was hammering Bruce on this thing and he told the truth about how he felt, that's one thing. But if you put out a statement, that's another. Exactly. The other day, a lot of security guards in the Oracle Arena in the Bay Area were fooled by fake Clay Thompson.

He went through, made it through security guy to the court. He's not going to the death star, dude. That's right. And he made it all the way down. and then he airballed a layup. And that was, that was the final. Everyone was like, wait a minute,

this guy doesn't quite belong. And so does that give you the idea? And I'm going to steal this from that, but does that give you the idea to maybe sneak into Larry Nance's next game? I was, I didn't know where you guys are going to go with that. But maybe, yeah,

I could, I could be Larry Nance, like Larry Nance that got run over by a steamroller. Like, I was thinking of maybe a white D.N that I've been compared to for years. I feel like I should at least be able to steal one of those guys' identity one day. You know, I think Max Crosby's playing a little well and Bosa's a little bit too muscular. But maybe there's somebody else that I could like steal their identity. What's amazing to me is

that the way they made it sound was like it was kind of like a sequel to a movie a little bit where the first film, it was easy. You got into Oracle. It was like a fucking, you know, it's a warehouse. I mean, I've been to a game at Oracle. It's like concrete. Very. concrete. Like a lot of those California stadiums like super low tech. So that was easy for Homeboy to get in there. But it was like Top Gun 2 for this cat

going to Chase like probably in his meetings they were like listen this is a suicide mission. You might come back. You might never be able to go to a Warriors game again. You might lose your $10,000 tickets. Are you willing to do this? And then he strolled right by the fucking TSA lady.

Which is also amazing because it's a big no-no to where you're issued gear like to the mall and that sort of thing as a pro athlete. We used to make fun of guys if they were out and about in like their team issued gear. And imagining that Clay Thompson or a Clay Thompson impersonator could just walk in the side door

in his full warm up off the street. Makes me think Clay Thompson's walked into the stadium before in his like warm up gear, which would be a major code break in my opinion. Like you know what I'm saying? Right. And not where like the threads that get posted before the game. Yeah. Russell Westbrook's walking in.

You can wear a Russell Westbrook trash bag. Right. Which. But don't wear your issued gear. Right, right. That means you were out and about, like, tell you, you're seven feet tall. Everybody knows you play basketball. And honestly, Clay Thompson, I feel like he would be one to wear the team issued gear.

Not in a wrong way, but because, like, he's all business. I'm going to show up and I don't need, I don't want to waste time changing. I'm going to show up in what I'm going to warm up in. And then let's get to business. Clay Thompson seems like one of the best players in the NBA that picks the top t-shirt off the thing. Yep. You know, I don't know who else those guys would be, but Clay Thompson's probably up there. But this guy's remarkable and seems like a fucking great guy too, like watching his YouTube thing.

He seems like a fun guy. He has fans. And the Uber guy thinking that he was legitimately Clay Thompson is the most predictable shit of all time. This happened to me in Vegas. I'm not Clay Thompson by any stretch, but like I'm in the car with this guy and he's a huge Eagles fan. He's telling me all about the Eagles. And in fact, he has a nephew that plays for the Eagles. And like, I'm just going on in this conference. about, hey, I think they could win nine, ten games this year, the whole thing.

Like, he loved the Super Bowl run, everything about it. And I was like, damn, I really didn't play much, huh, buddy? But, you know, it's like, if you would put the dog mask on, then he would be like, oh, hey, Chris Long. All right. Exactly. Hey, hey, I get it now. I think more people know what that mask looks like in my face, which is great.

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So we're doing best movie scene dinners, best dinner movie scenes from films where you're throwing in comedies, dramas, dark movies, not dark movies. No, didn't do that,

but... We should have looked into that. Yeah. I can do some research. Yeah, okay. You're a rich you can. Orney Celtics fan. Pent-up

aggression. And you threw it out on Twitter. We got some great responses. We thank the people. but as we mentioned earlier we all kind of came with our lists that we had even before we were looking up ranker and we we have a good base knowledge

in this kind of thing I think we do I mean I'm no I like to always level set expectations kind of like Matt did with Top Gun except I'm you know like I'm just I'm not a movie buff I haven't seen Casablanca guys you know so yeah what you have no

not movie buffs here. Right, right. So we're going to say some things and somebody's going to be like, yeah. What about this? In 1984, there was this like, this dinner scene. I don't know. I know what I know. And I'm going to give you my top five to the best of my ability.

I'm going to let you all two start. Are we doing top three or just top? Let's just do. I think just top five. You want to just do top five. The thing we've been struggling with, so, you know, looking behind the curtain is comedies. Like, do you put them in the same? do we do all movies do we want to break it down into different genres you know that kind of thing

i feel pretty strongly about this like the golden globes breaks it down like drama comedy and i think that's bullshit the academy awards it's like one thing is best picture and it can be a comedy like comedies for some reason are second class citizens in the film world and i'm not here for it or maybe their first class and fucking everything else is in coach you know a good comedy that's hard to come by especially nowadays. Harder to make than a good drama in some ways. So we'll do everybody's top five.

We just want to roll through each of our top five. Yeah, I think so. I think so. And then we can talk about some of the ones that didn't make the cut. Cool. You know? We might have some overlap. We might not.

And let me ask you something. If there are two dinner scenes, I know the answer. But if there are two dinner scenes in a movie, I got to choose one, huh? I know what movie you're talking about. I don't know. I know for sure

I'll just come out and say it Goodfellas is the movie you're thinking of Oh yeah Oh yeah Okay you're thinking of good fellas Because you got the prison scene Tree onions

Tree onions The guy's cutting it with a fucking razor dude Which I really want to try that at home It just melt into the oil right? Yeah Honestly that scene makes me want to go to prison Only if you're in the mob though the rest of them move all together

It's such a bad It's such a bad, inaccurate depiction of what it would be like to go to prison. But honestly, I see why those guys were not afraid to go to prison. Right. They had a- Mafia guy. They were good. I don't want to get whacked. Right.

But I'm just saying, I used to be like, damn, they're so, they're so brave. Like, they're not snitching or they're just like whacking people left and right. Like, they're not afraid of going to prison. That's because they were in there and the food's better in prison than it is out of prison, dude. You're just hanging out with your friends. Right. At the end, doesn't he have to eat, uh, uh, noodles with ketchup? Yeah, dude. In prison, he's, he's rocking, you know, fresh graded. Yes, dude. It's, it's beautiful. Yeah.

To make my point, the other dinner scene is, is, is a better scene. Is that where? I agree. Just because the whole, they come from literally like murdering people. They show up at like midnight or so you, some wild hour, uh, Joe Pesci's mother is like, yeah, come on in. I'll serve you boom, boom, boom, serving food left and right, just slang and mood. And they're just laughing. And this mom was like, look at my great son and her great friends not knowing there's blood all over there. She doesn't see well. Right. And she wants to believe he's good. Right.

That's why it didn't bother her at all that he said he had to cut the deer's paws off. Right. Like that was the fucking, that was the alibi. I was a funny ass dinner. We'll get into that because I'm pretty sure. I love that scene so much. The only piece of artwork in my house is that little painting that the mom looks at. I ordered that offline.

No, you did not. I swear to God. Okay, because... And that actress is Martin Scorsese's mom in real life. Martin Scorsese, excuse me. Oh, really? Yep. So it's so funny because she...

Yeah, she was just playing herself probably. Minus the fact that Martin Scorsese or how are we... I want to make sure we... Scoresce. Okay. That is correct. Fuck it. We'll do it live.

Martin Scorsese, he didn't whack anybody, but she's probably like the same person in real life, which is cool and it came across. But the thing that was so bugged out to me was that the painting was sitting right next to the table. Like she just is holding that painting there. It's leaning up against the dinner table. She pulled it right out, dude.

Yeah, she's been like working on her art at home, basically. But I didn't see her carry that painting into the room. Was it just leaning against the table? Is that what were to believe? She was like, have you seen my painting? I think so. Might be a flaw. There's also a sloppy cut there.

If you go back and watch the movie, there's a really sloppy edit like a cut from one one frame to the next. There are a few errors in that film but it's one when I first made it all the way to the end it was like you stood up and couldn't believe what just happened. Yeah well we're cutting hairs here.

So cutting onions. We're cutting onions that's right. We're not crying but we have to pick one one dinner scene from the film. Yeah? Yeah, I'm done. Yeah. I have it. Yep. Okay. You want me to give my five first and then read you go next? Five to one. Yeah, yeah. Roll five, five to one.

All right. So fifth is one from my childhood. Used to make me laugh so hard. The nutty professor scene where Eddie Murphy's playing all the different roles, eating like extremely unhealthy food. That scene never ceases to crack me up. It's also Eddie Murphy playing like everybody. Yeah, except the one kid.

Eddie Murphy's literally doing every single role. Couldn't play the kid. And that was a great movie. Had a good run. Was he in Flubber as well? Yeah, for sure. I know Eddie Murphy's done a lot more than just Flubber. I just want you to know that.

Flubber is a great movie. I was like 10 years old watching Flubber. That was a Robin Williams running around. Yeah, dude. You were just like, what does that Flubber feel like? Right, exactly. I want a little Flubber thing. Yeah, dude.

But that's a great scene. All right. At fourth, I'm going pulp fiction, the scene at Jack Rabbit Slims, where John Travolta takes Uma Thurman to the 50s diner and they win the dance contest. Classic scene.

so that's my only dance move and i think subconsciously it came from john travolta in that scene you could do worse than that yeah i know i know uh at three i'm gonna take meet the parents just the most awkward painful dinner ever with the can you milk me yeah i've got that's great can you milk me and then with finishing with the like um champagne toast that hits the urn that's just an all time classic so i can i ask you all a question do you think that that prayer is ad-libbed. I want to say, I want to hope that it is. I wonder that. And it's funny

because I think, honestly, I love the movie. I think it's one of the comedies that age the best from that time period. Like that is just a drop-dead funny movie. But I don't think that seems as great as I remembered it. Now, that's almost sacrilege, but I think the best line in the whole thing is Jews don't pray.

For sure. And then from there on, like, it's it's the prayer is hilarious and i wondered the same thing about um talladega nights i wondered if will feral's grace was just off the dome knowing how they knowing how will feral and adam mackay shoot those movies i think that it was because they how they do that kind of time period of those like back to back the anchor mans and the the rigby bobby's in those movies it would be adam mackay sitting in a chair basically with a microphone and shouting out like things off the top of his head Will Farrell also like taking it's a lot of playing back and forth John C. Riley. So no more of that right no more. But yeah in that thing I think it was like a lot of

just like shooting right off you know they they say hey we're going to roll it's going to be a 10 minute scene just go from the go from the top. It's incredible like that's like white guy freestyling. You know like I would watch Will Farrell I would I would I would seed a podcast not that I have the money to do it where it's just hey will I like what you're you did in Talladega nights when you did the whole grace thing i know it was off the dome we're going to do a series of podcasts where you just say grace for 45 minutes an episode i would watch that continually i think it was a genius scene no spoilers on my top five but uh yeah shout out sweet um for my second i'm gonna go to my favorite movie ever which is good fellows but i am going to do the prison dinner scene not the

scene with Tommy's mom. And the reason why is it's just one of the greatest scenes of all time. Like the cutting the garlic super thin so it dissolves in the pan. There's like this whole scene of like mobsters in prison with lobsters being delivered to them by the guard. It's just like it doesn't get any better than that in that movie for me. All time. Sandwiches.

Yeah. Yeah. That's right. And they bring in wine and bread. It's just amazing. It's like now we can eat. What do we have to do? What do we have to do to have prison be?

like that for us because I'll go tomorrow dude got to join the mob and do a year for contempt like polly we can do a podcast from fellow's prison cooking podcast right right a cooking podcast but if there's food like that I could probably do an evening it wouldn't be a problem and then number one I think is one of the best scenes in the history of movies regardless of fooders involved food is involved or not it's when Michael Corleone goes to louis restaurant in the Bronx to avenge his father and goes to the bathroom and the famous scene comes out it's just like an incredible sound where you hear the metro train going by or the elevated train going by they're speaking in italian but there's no subtitle so like you're kind of confused and panic just like michael is in that moment

and then he kills salozo and mccluskey is just one of the greatest scenes of all time incredible scene because it was kind of like um michael was like losing his virginity as a gangster and you could see like every like minute of that was just such a strain on him even though he had every right in his mind and by his code to do it like the not being able to find the gun right like you said the noise it was just so perfect the italian it was like dizzying and then when he got back out there his eyes were like bolting around. Al Pacino is just an unbelievably amazing actor.

Him not getting picked in the short king's draft was a travesty. Yeah, I know. We just didn't want to be too chalky. It was like somebody said, why didn't you do Napoleon? Like, okay, do Napoleon, then make that interesting. You know, it's like they say short complex, Napoleon complex. Like, no, I'm not drafting him. But yeah, anyways, hard to argue with that one.

And then like even the fact that he shot him all sloppy. he was just fucking nervous dude yeah and then he doesn't like drop the gun exactly as he's been told all that I love it and actually right after that scene they have the newspaper montage like that's one of the best scenes too great movie obviously hard to argue with that one I feel like that might be uh that's a solid number one read five number five close encounters of the third kind

uh Richard Dreyfus is making mountain mashed potatoes and he's carving valleys and peaks and all that stuff. And he's just going and you can see his wife. His kid's like, wow, you can play with your food. This is sick. It's like,

that's what he's saying in his head. And his wife's like, oh my God, I can't believe he's actually biting again. Richard Dreyfus is just getting lost in the literal sauce. He's got such a jaws face in this movie. Oh, yeah. So Richard Dreyfus eating milky mashed potatoes.

Think about aliens. Think about aliens and then carving the, the tower. I can remember the name of the tower, but the tower where he realizes that's the aliens. So I've never seen the movie. It is a wonderful movie. Really? Yep. Really, really, really good.

It's on the list. Number four, Wedding Crashers. Wedding Crashers. That dinner scene is... Erroneous! The droppers, putting the droppers in when everyone's heads bowed. The O.T. Ph.J. Mm-hmm. where she gets a little frisky

and just the entire, the grandma, just going nuts. And the, the butler, the butler just kind of keeping everything moving. That entire movie, we have a stage five clinger,

a virgin clinger. There's sayings that came from that movie. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, and a lot of those comedies, early 2000s, when you go back and watch these YouTube clips, you're like,

damn, that's where we started saying that, huh? Oh, Mr. environmental is also a hunter. It's quail, Jeremy. They're overpopulated in this area. Marilyn. Crap cakes and football. Yeah. So I just think they got carried. I think that scene gets carried by

a bigoted grandmother. I think she's got the whole team on her back. You know, it's breaking from how much she's carrying that scene. And in principle, I think it was just so easy to execute that. Just get an old lady and get her to say, to tell gay jokes. I'm not saying I'm too, you know, like it was a time and a place in common. and people were doing this stuff more often. But I just, yeah, I'm saying. Saying knowing that. Number three, I'm going stepbrothers.

We're battling over who's going to dominate the household. And then the parents are like, oh, my God, this is what it's going to be like. Are you kidding me? And the best is he's wearing a Raglan T-shirt, three-quarters, and he has his blue Gatorade or Powerade or whatever in his cup. And they're messing around with, like, little kid food. That must have been one of the most fun movies to make your, you're Will Ferrell and Johnson Se. Riley and you get to act like

15 year olds. Oh dude incredible and honestly the movie took on a new meaning once I actually had kids. Right. It is insane to me that that movie was as funny when I didn't have kids. It's like unlocking a new level at this point like I watch my kids have conversations like what is the fancy sauce. Oh yeah. That fancy sauce thing is straight out of my dinner table, dude. And then the whole like, hey, what are you doing now, Dale? He's like managing a baseball team.

He's like his fantasy. It's super timeless humor. That movie's aged way better than a lot of other comedies. It's so has. It's age better than old school. It's age better than no offense to wedding crashers. Like, you name it. It's age better than Anchorman.

I have a hot take that Anchorman has not aged that well. But, hey, question on stepbrothers with dinner before I get to my list here, good time to ask it. Are you counting boats and hoses a dinner? Yes, that is a dinner. So take that. For sure, that is definitely a dinner. I'm playing my cards.

Number two, the Django and Chained dinner scene where Calvin Candy slams his hand on the table and everyone knows in real life. He actually cut his hand and he kept acting and that blood was real. That's true. That scene was awesome. They're trying to play against each other.

They're trying to get out of there without Calvin Candy realizing the whole thing, and he realizes and it culminates with, uh, with him demanding a handshake afterwards, which ultimately gets him murdered. I didn't know the thing about the real blood. Leonardo DiCaprio was so into his character.

He was slamming his hand on the table, slinging the skull. Right. He cuts his hand. It starts bleeding. Like that's not in the script. It's a little too into his character. Yeah, yeah.

But everyone, like, they let him roll on the scene, like keep rolling. And then they gave him a standing ovation when, when he finished because he literally like severed like parts of his hand. God damn. And we're just bleeding all over the place. And that was, that was a spooky place to cut yourself.

Oh, very, yeah. And just to keep rolling, like maybe, you know, should I stop everybody? Number one, Mrs. Doubtfire,

the scene where Robin Williams is running back and forth between the characters and has to do the heimlich. And then everyone realizes. That scene, that movie, my favorite scene, scene, probably like one of my most favorite scenes

in movie history is, or in any movie I've seen is the vacuum scene. Robin Williams, oh, it's such a good scene. I love that movie. Hoseom Robin Williams. Dude, it's so good. How amazing is Robin Williams and you see the problems

people are having, wrapping their heads around things today? Robin Williams did like a whole movie in drag. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I know it's not in drag, but like, disguises a woman and people were like let's take it like nobody about it and I no yeah robin Williams is America's you know he also did a movie as a gay man and bird cage

yep which was one of my honorable mention all the people that probably have a big issue with a lot of stuff today had no problem because it was Robin Williams right Robin Williams like a cheat code dude by the way hook's not going to make my list honorable mention honorable mention on on hook man I my whole childhood I grew up wanting to eat that stuff they were eating. Rufio. Also, Rufio is the perfect villain. Rufio, I think I got knocked out by a kid that looked like Rufio in basketball camp

when I was a kid outside L.A., dude. I went to, like, I guess maybe a little bit tougher of a basketball camp than my parents thought it was going to be. Or maybe they'd, and this kid that looked like Rufio absolutely decked me. I had ice on my face and everything. But what does he say? You don't know what a parisium is? Yep.

I'll tell you what a paracium is. It's a one cell organism, a one cell critter that can't fly or whatever it is. But I love that scene. If you ever have some time and you're on YouTube, Robin Williams on Johnny Carson is just unbelievable. Chris, five through one. Five through one.

Fuck me running. Okay, so I have a hot take. The Talladega night's dinner is tremendous and all that with the prayer. But is the Applebee's dinner best? I yes agreed because I think it might be I think so too maybe it's because I identify with Will Ferrell's dad so fucking much right right I am allergic to things going well yeah and that whole scene like just conveyed that affliction so well had just had to blow it up I just had to blow it up I mean like no I don't think

you did darling his face as she was like let's do this every week on Thursday have a family dinner same time the whole thing and he his face was just like And then there was something about every Tuesday, and he's like, fuck me. This is just too much, this is too much feel good. It's too much commitment. It's too much stability. I love when he gets out into the road and he puts one thumb out and then he flips the other one the other way.

He'll go anywhere. He has rats. I mean, Gary Cole's that actor. He's amazing. My favorite scene in that movie, though, is when he finally picks up the tickets. And then he's like, who needs two? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just threw and through him, dude.

He was a great character. But I'd probably say that Talladega Nights, if I'm being honest, the quotables from that prayer have to put it in my top five. Where it's going to go on and I'm just talking this out. I want to put Old Boy in my top five really badly. Dude, old boy, I've not seen the movie,

but I was just made aware of this. Either of them. I haven't seen either of them. Old boys. Right. Oh, boy. Can you tell me what's going on in that scene? I'll tell you what drew me to the scene.

somebody said a guy and old boy ate an octopus like a real octopus which i didn't know it was a korean film first and then because j i've seen the josh brolin one doesn't have the octopus scene oh i get what you were saying because there is a josh brolin one and it's the same plot i'm i'm pretty certain i haven't seen that but it's based off of the korean the funny thing he was like i've seen old boy and i was showing him the the the scene where buddy's eating the octopus and fucking weird sunglasses. Yeah, yeah. And all the subtitles and reads like,

this doesn't look like the Josh Brole. I was waiting for Josh Broly. The first minute I was waiting for Josh Burling to walk in. Quite a different movie. Two minutes in, I was like, wait a minute. So was that controversial to eat an octopus like that?

It was a little bit. When they won the grand prize at Khan, they thanked the octopus that died. He actually had to do it four times. So he actually ate four different octopodes. Octopi. Octopi. And so that wasn't one of those movies where at the end it says like no octopi were harmed.

No, they were. They were all harmed. They killed four live ones. Four octopi, dude. That's a crazy movie, by the way. That actor deserves all the awards. And so if you were that act, are you having your stunt double, eat those octobai? Dog, I want, if I'm going to be in a movie like that, I want people to remember me.

Yeah, yeah. I want real actors to respect me. Nicholas Cage has a poster. of old boy in his fucking in his man cave. And it's you eating a real fucking octopus. And in the Revenant, Leo ate a real liver rather than, they gave him

like a prosthetic one, but he said he didn't think it looked real sweet or real liver. This fake liver doesn't look like the real one. That's literally stuff compared to the guy and old boy. The guy and old boy, the octopus was writhing. Okay, so five for me, I'm going to have to go with a Hannibal. The pigs got to eat.

That's a good one. I want to go with the pigs because I don't think animals get represented enough on these lists. I also honorable mention and want to shout out Indiana Jones because when the crocodiles got to eat that was really dope when all the men fell off the bridge.

Right. And actually remember we had Spencer Hall on recently and he was talking about the fact that that movie was made completely differently because Willie Nelson hooked up with George Lucas' ex-wife or something? Yes. Was that it?

George Lucas's wife at the time, I think. and then that's put them up well willie nons was out there breaking hearts and that's why temple of doom was all fucking violent right that's why you had people reaching into people's chest cavities right you know off the rip so um yeah hannibal because gary oldman uh just do you remember gary oldman was the guy in the wheelchair yep uh and and they they pushed him in there and gary oldman's like you're doing this and they're like no we're not we're going to let the pigs eat you and he moved less than the octopus, dark joke. He's in a wheelchair.

Do you remember the movie, Reid? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Ray Leota's in that. Ray Leota's in that, too? RIP. So yeah, I want to shout at the Boers. Four, I'll go, Stepbrothers, I'm going to go with the Boats and Ho's scene.

The Boats and Ho's scene is iconic. Like, they did a song that gets stuck in people's heads. Right. You know, like, you know all the lines from this song. they take over the dinner. You want me to shut this down, D-Man? Like you had D-Man, you had Rob Wrigal. You had an iconic song.

Bomb it down the fairway. Yeah. As much as I like the other fucking dinner, this dinner's more iconic. And the dad is, that's my boat. What are you doing on my boat? What happened to the boat?

And they're all like, shut up, shut up. Even though they know. Yep. And the dad was just had a huge blind spot for D-Man. He was like, when I'm making love to your mom, I'm thinking about the fact that

you know, we made you or whatever it was. It was a really funny fucking scene, dude. So I'll put that at four. I'll go three. I'll go good fellas, but I'm going, I'm going the scene at the mom's house. And then two, I'm going to go Talladega Nights. I am. I think I'm going to give it.

God, this is going to be a hot take. Yeah. You think the people are going to kill me for this? We'll see. Applebee's is funnier. I think so. It is because because the first one, he just carries it. The worst part about that scene is people interrupting him.

And there's some great actors and actresses and kids in that scene, but they should have just let Will Ferrell go off the dome for 47 minutes. The best dinner scene is Talladega Nights at Applebee's. Let me flip-flop that because I don't want to get good fella. I don't want to get whacked for this. Put Goodfellas at two. Okay. Going mob-heavy.

Tal-Daga at three. And then one, I'm going Godfather. I'm going Godfather. It's just why I overthink this? If you were ranking your top five NFL quarterbacks, people are putting Tom Brady one. that is the Tom Brady of dinner scenes

you know it's a great film and it's a great scene it's yeah yeah I put that one and figured everything else out that was a no-brainer for me now I will say you know scary movie deserves a shout-out I think it's scary movie three or one of the fucking scary movies but the take my strong hand

guy and him just mixing up the mashed potatoes and sodomizing turkey that was funny as shit here's my hot take Like, that dinner is better than the Wedding Crashers dinner. Really? Yeah. Yeah.

Go back and watch it, dude. It's funny. I thought one of you guys was going to take Pineapple Express. Pineapple Express was good. He knew all the lines, dude. I'm going to get my God. I'm coming back with a gun. Well, the funny part about that was she was like, are you fucking high?

I was like, are you high? And as usual, the high guy's not high. He's telling the truth. Right. He was on it. The high guy, man. so yeah Pineapple Express

deserves a mention I'm not high let's go yeah I'm not high I'm leading this train was that uh who was the actress why I think Amber Hurd

was in that movie it's the girlfriend it is Amber Hurd it is and then I want to shout out house party three as well that's a good call

my mama dead now I got to cut you that's the rule that's the fucking funniest line and by the way somebody the other night was talking shit

about Bernie Mac on Twitter yeah that was rude well no it was calculated. That person definitely knew they were going to get you think they wanted the engagement. Yes, dude. That's funny. There's no way somebody's like

prove to me right here that Bernie Mac's funny. I went through that thread. It was super funny. Yeah, it's easy to prove. Oh, is there 45 minutes I was watching YouTube with Bernie Mac, dude. I got another honorable mention. Okay, hit us with the honorable mentions guys. Have you guys ever seen Whiplash? Yes, dude. There's that dinner

scene where he gets all pissed off because they're all focused on like the Division 2 football players and it's like I'm the best musician in the world our guy Miles Teller I like that dinner scene it's a great man I don't know if you guys saw some news from Top Gun today Miles Teller said that he found jet fuel in his bloodstream while filming he started to feel very sick so I go to the set the next day and Tom Cruise is like how did it go I was like well Tom it turns out I have jet fuel in my blood without even skipping a beat Tom goes yeah I was

born with it kid That is a short king Hey that's the first pick In the short king That's right Dude right there for Kyle Wasn't it? Yeah

It was That's Kyle's first pick Dude Just And you you mentioned Ratatoui You know You mentioned

You had a bunch of them here But these are the These are the heavy hitters man I'll throw out The space balls scene At the diner At the end Because it's a parody of alien

And And he's got Oh no Not again And then the alien jumps into a little song and dance. I haven't seen it. You should watch Spaceballs. I don't know if you like it or not, but damn is it good.

I got to watch that scene. The alien, though, is a great dinner scene. Yeah, it's awesome. Just Sigourney Weaver all of a sudden giving birth to an alien via the belly button, dude. That was so jarring. So jarring. That was aggressive. It's such a dark movie, dude.

Yeah. You know, it's a dark show. Ozark. All the, okay, no spoilers here. I'm almost done with season, whatever it is. is, but they never have the lights on. Right, I know he's very, yeah, yeah, literally a dark show. People are having business meetings with the lights off.

Yep. It's overcast. They are always in their house. Seppia tone. Yep. Getting pitched a, you know, a Ponzi scheme in sepia tone. Right. Last honorable mention, hot rod.

Oh, y'all's movie catalogs, it's just so much. That movie, Hot Rod, you'd love watch, you'd love it. Okay, Hot Rod. Yeah, Hot Rod would be great. Native, native, native, like Hot Rod. We should all watch Hot Rod. Hot Rod's my favorite movie. Really?

Oh yeah. All right. Let's watch Hot Rod. What? Oh, I heard what you said. I was just really mean. I love that he loves the movie so much. He's like, this fucker hasn't seen it.

I'm rifling lines out of him. You'll geek out. There's a scene you'll geek out. He's doing stunts to make a bunch of money to save his stepfather's heart to get him a transplant so he can beat him up and prove he's a man. There's one scene where he does stunts for a corporate retreat. And someone puts. It's a washing machine, puts it on a forklift, and it swings down and hits him, and he's wrapped

in like a mattress. And the scene, he's like talking, talking, talking to like these people. And then it just cuts to him with a helmet and a mattress. And then a washing machine swings down and just pummels him. What's the person? It's just for the movie. To make money. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

His stepfather, the whole movie, he is a stepfather. He's a stepfather and they're good friends. But his stepfather doesn't respect him. And so he's like, I have to fight my stepfather to earn his respect. beat him. And he keeps getting beat by the stepfather, beat by the stepfather. And then it turns out the stepfather's going to get a heart transplant. And the Andy Sammer is like, well, shit. Now my stepdad isn't strong enough. So beating him now doesn't matter. And so the stepdad's like, I'm going to die a champion. Yeah, it's like, fucking finally beating the bulls and Gordon's not there. Yeah. And then so

Andy Sammer's like, I'm going to raise a ton of money. Get you a new heart and kick your ass. So he has to do all these things. He goes, he lights himself on fire. I know. Yeah. But you'll, he'll, he's going to We're going to watch the movie. You'll love it, dude. What's the hardest you've ever laugh? Who's my guy? Your guy, Danny McBride is in it. Oh, really?

And boy, does he nearly steal the damn thing? Really? Yes. As he would. Okay, so what's the hardest you've ever laughed at a movie? It was at Hot Rod. Okay, spoiler, but it is the hot rod scene where Andy Sandberg gets sent down on a, uh, then gets sent down the hill testing speed on a longboard.

Yes. He goes, whiskey, whiskey! Bam! Okay. It doesn't seem like a movie that you can spoil. Yeah, no, no, no. That's right. Awesome.

I'll tell you what. I laughed really hard one night at McGrouver. Like really hard the first time I ever saw McGruver. Really hard. Embarrassingly hard. But that is a funny fucking movie. And then James Franco, what's the one where he acts like an actor? He's acting like a real actor with dark hair.

Tommy, disaster artist. Disaster artist. Yeah, yeah. I laugh so hard at that movie. It was insane, dude. And then Northman is up there for me. At the end of Northman, I had to run out of that motherfucker. The comedy Northman.

People thought I was weeping because the movie was so good. I was crying, laughing at the Northman. Reed, let's end the show with your fucking, with your planet rankings. We were going to rank the planets and we ran out of time. So I think, I think Reed should rank the planets. So I'm going to rank my planets. Here are my planet rankings 8 to 1, not counting Pluto,

unfortunately. 8. Mercury. It has no moons, barely in atmosphere. It's smaller than two moons in the, in the solar system. It looks like a battlefield with all of its craters. Bro. It's like, you know, eh.

It's also close to the sun. So it's probably really bright and it's not very fun. It's really, it's probably hot. I'm going to be good, dude. Mercury at 8? Yeah, Mercury is at 8. Dude, Mercury, uh, looks like the,

moon. Yeah. Small and close to sun, which is cool. Right. Balzy. Yeah. But also like, it's like Danny Amendola.

Mercury is Danny Amendola. I love Danny. And then it used to be a bigger planet. So that's cool. Mystique. Like what did it used to look like? And it's the coolest looking planet. No,

but no, no, no. You'll hear the coolest looking planet. Seven, Mars. Over talked about. Overhiked. Overrated. Everyone's like,

oh, we're going to like go to Mars. Oh, there's this door on Mars. No, it's not. There's no door on Mars. It's in all the movies. All the space movies. it's like talking about Mars. And it's ugly.

And the movie with Matt Damon wasn't good. Right. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Plus, in 50 million years, uh, there's one of the moon, one of Mars's moons is going to crash into it. Wreck a bunch of havoc.

If you know, like, there's going to think, like, no, who cares? We're having an astronaut on soon. Right. I'm going to ask him.

I mean, he's, I'm going to live on that red ass planet. Right. Exactly. Why would, why are we stopping at Mars? Why are we saying,

why are all the movies we're going to go to Mars? Why can we pick a different planet? Well, I couldn't live in Arizona. You think I'm going to be able to live in Mars? Arizona's awesome. I'm sorry, I can't.

Not enough trees, dude. You're right. There aren't. Six. Venus has a cool color. It's super hot. 900 degrees Fahrenheit, so pass.

Surrounded by clouds, though. Yeah. We don't really know what it looks like. Right. Those clouds are made of sulfuric acid, though. Yeah. Well, that's dangerous.

Yeah, it's got a little sulfuric. I think it should be lower. I think Venus got snatched up in all the leg shaving branding. Right. You know, like all the women's beauty. Do you take the like Roman mythology creature into account? I am not. I don't think so.

I am not. I'm just straight up. I'm just looking at a fucking planet that's surrounded by clouds. Yeah. Which is a little mysterious. So that bumps it up over, you know, over Mercury and Mars. Five, Neptune. Cool freaking name.

Cool freaking name. The color, it's just deep blue. Really pretty. It's a really dope planet. No one knows for certain why it is that color. Okay. Okay. It's far away from the sun, which means it doesn't need the sun to live.

F-U-sun doesn't matter. It's the windiest planet reaches 1,200 miles an hour. Great for windsurfing, any kind of those, you know, you want to go sailing. Yeah. Freaking Neptune is the planet to do it. And you'll be there 165 Earth years. Right. You spend one year there.

Yeah, exactly. It's like one of those trippy. What's that movie that you like? It's like Matthew McConaughey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. When he goes to the planet, and he gets back on it. Interstellar.

interstellar, and he goes back to the spaceship, and everybody's like, where the fuck you've been, Neptune? Right. Four, Earth. Don't really need to say anything else, you know? That's what I'm saying to my wife when she takes a long time going to the store or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where'd you go, Neptune?

She's not going to get it at all, dude. Three. Wait, hold on. That feels a little low for the only planet that supports. Yeah, see, everyone's going to say that. Oh, yeah. Four is Earth. Everyone's like, oh.

I didn't even rank Earth in my head. You know, it's like, We've done it. We've been here. Cool. We know what happens. Let's go to some places that we don't know. He just ranked Earth 4.

Yeah. Jupiter 3. It's the biggest planet. 11 Earths across. Super dope. Don't planet. Days are short, only 10 hours. So it's funny to say, oh, yo, I slept all day yesterday.

But it's 10 hours. Oh, I was awake all day. All day. All day. I literally spent all day awake. Yeah. But it's 10 hours. So listen to this.

It also has 53 moons. Which is cool. And there's more moons on other planets. The gas giants, man. These guys can't have an album. They have huge entourages. Right, exactly. They got freaking.

They're walking into the stadium with 30 dudes around them. Jupiter, here's one read. Because of its rapid rotation, the planet's shape is an ablate spheroid. It has a slight but noticeable bulge around the equator. Jupiter's got a dick. Jupiter's Nick Foles. Damn right. Yeah.

It also, it's a bulge. Yeah. One of its moons. is one of its moons is water is complete water no way yeah pretty dope how is that possible just a drop of water out there let's go to jupiter and

freaking find out yeah red spot is the red spot on jupiter is a storm three times the size of earth exactly insane uh two uranus uranus however you want to say it funny name especially when you're seven years old uh 500 mile an hour winds so again kurt's kite surfing any kind of wind sport it's minus 350 degrees so the ice in your margarita will always stay icy and it also rotates nearly on its side

in 97.8 degrees. I don't understand that. I read that last night. Yeah, so like the earth is, you know, like that. Yeah. This one's just so yeah, so yeah,

but it depends on how you're, if I'm floating in space looking this way, it's just all perspective. Right, right, all perspective. But it's cool to like be no when you're on that planet and you're like, I'm traveling sideways. Uranus ahead of, of, of, of, uh, Jupiter, Earth, of Earth, dude, of any.

Hell yeah. There's 500 mile. Here's why I know about Uranus. Right. Butthole name. Yep. 500 mile per hour winds. Yep.

It's just white. Yep. It's just white. But like a cool, like like, like, milk that, uh, someone dumped some caramel sauce in. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, number one.

It's bad. Saturn. You want rings. And it has a car named after it. I know Mercury does too, whatever. No one cares. Saturn. Cool car.

Mercury Grand Marquis asshole. 53 moons. One of the moons has rivers and lakes on it. No oceans because rivers and lakes are more elite than oceans. I agree with you there, bro. And by the way, Jupiter's the coolest looking planet. Yeah. Jupiter's trippy looking.

It has an eye, dude. Yeah. Do you see that eye? Yeah. Anyways, great rank and read. Thank you. You have me in the first half. there when you put with your number eight selection.

Mercury and Mars. Yeah, Mercury way underrated. Mercury might be number two or three for me. Wow. Yeah. You know what happens when it's in retrograde? Right. That's true.

Yeah. Sturgle Simpson told us. Mm-hmm. So I'll run this ranking by Leland Melvin next week. We have to, dude. Yeah. We'll see what he says. Okay, perfect.

Yeah. Hey, everybody take care. Everybody out there on number four. planet in the solar system enjoy take care